WEBVTT - A Nostalgic Look at Crayons

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, There's guest producer Matt Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry's not here because Jerry is a storm sufferer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you fare? Pretty good? I mean powers out

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, cables out for a little bit, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing bad. Yeah, we um, we're talking about Irma. If

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is obviously in the future, there maybe

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<v Speaker 1>another hurricane by then for all we know. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jose is starting to circle background. I think, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I see. Uh. But yeah, Irma came through Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>which is weird for a hurricane and then eventually tropical

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<v Speaker 1>storm to reach that far inland. Uh. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, well, you know, we get bad thunderstorms

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, will be fine. Didn't make you. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>some extra milk for the kid, and but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like go nuts with you know, prepper style stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was surprisingly scary. I'm here to tell you. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you scared? Yeah, I mean that was like in our

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<v Speaker 1>our part of Atlanta got hit the hardest. Um, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the Eastlake Decatur, Kirkwood, decap County area. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>there was one there was one moment where the trees

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<v Speaker 1>and we have all these old you know, Atlanta for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who don't know, as a city built

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a forest. So there are these

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<v Speaker 1>old oak and pine trees that apparently have shallow roots

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<v Speaker 1>from past droughts and things, because the roots kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come towards the surface. Just not good. Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of wondering, you know, us like we like

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<v Speaker 1>to just sort of study things in general, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at these trees swaying, and I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>about the physics of an uprooted tree. And then it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably like you know, and the roots give and every

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<v Speaker 1>time it swings, it probably just gets a little more unstable.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the big gust and then so we had

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<v Speaker 1>before like five huge trees down within a thousand feet

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<v Speaker 1>of our house. So we were just sort of waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just literally like, all right, which one is

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<v Speaker 1>coming to hit us? And there was one huge gust

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<v Speaker 1>that came through at one point where it was so

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<v Speaker 1>scary sounding that we grabbed the animals and our daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and like ran into the hallway and Emily stayed there

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<v Speaker 1>with her and the animals. You know, I could not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pacing from window to window the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? It was like, if I can see

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<v Speaker 1>it coming down, I might give us a half a

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<v Speaker 1>second to get out of the way. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>see one come down behind my house in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>which was scary. I'll bet that must have been kind

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<v Speaker 1>of amazing to see though, too. Yeah, and the sound

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<v Speaker 1>like obviously we we got nothing like uh Florida, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to compare, but um, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little scary. And we didn't have power for three days,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not fun. So I've never seen a tree

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<v Speaker 1>fall down in real time, so subtle a bet? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>does it make a Wilhelm scream? He started to follow

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<v Speaker 1>the wine. We can get Jerry to dovin Wheah the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong one. Uh So anyway, it was I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun at first not being not having power, uh

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<v Speaker 1>And then also wanted to announce because people care so

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<v Speaker 1>much about our pets because they're part of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday or Tuesday, it was Tuesday, we took the

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<v Speaker 1>Wizard in because he had been like hiding and whenever

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<v Speaker 1>animals start doing weird things like that. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. Uh, and you know, like the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the other three over the past nine months, tumors all

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<v Speaker 1>over his body. So we put him down yesterday with

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<v Speaker 1>no power, but had one really great night the night

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<v Speaker 1>before with like we were forced to just be quiet

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<v Speaker 1>and there were candles lit because it ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>this like peaceful candlelight vigil because the power outage kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forced that upon us. Works out like that sometimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going, you know, if that happened, we might

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<v Speaker 1>have just been watching TV with him and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still petting him and caring for him. But he's just

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<v Speaker 1>like game quick Game of Thrones. Well, I'm sorry, Chuckers,

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<v Speaker 1>did I quick Game of Thrones from everybody? I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Man, it was Emily. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>was wrecked, but Emily is destroyed. Is this cat like

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<v Speaker 1>was attached to her body? Fifteen years? Is that how long?

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<v Speaker 1>How old he was? Yeah? And you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>great lives atle lurn buckleyan wizards, so they were good,

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<v Speaker 1>longful lives. But when you get together with a human

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<v Speaker 1>and you get four animals in the space of a

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<v Speaker 1>year or so, it's all good times and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about the end of that. Yeah you know. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well like the secession of deaths in quick order that

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<v Speaker 1>can happen. Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now they're all here. Now they're all gone. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe like we'd lose one a year or

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<v Speaker 1>every couple of years, but it's like, no, November, February, September. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that is quick secession. It's not fun. Yeah. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to get that out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang in there, man, and hats off to you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. Yeah, than just being like nope, well we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't pad the queue like we used to know,

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<v Speaker 1>which is good. It keeps it fresh, but there's also

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<v Speaker 1>less room to just be like nope, yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>bring breaking news one crayons, right exactly. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say during IRMA, did you guys with your power out

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<v Speaker 1>scribble anything with crayons? Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>eventually we sent, uh sent my daughter over to my

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents just as parents her grandparents. Yeah, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>she was getting a little kg, and quite honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were getting a little kg. But at first. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that was greyon play yeah, play the big

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<v Speaker 1>fat kind. Yeah, she has the big big daddies right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean she's got a little hand, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what she uses. That's the only kind she con grita

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<v Speaker 1>better to scribble with. Right, her fine motor neurons are

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<v Speaker 1>not quite refined enough to hold the normal traditional size crons. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she would hold it, but she would hold

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<v Speaker 1>it like she holds a long sword. Right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know what you mean, the deathly purpose right.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, it turns out, Chuck, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much of this, you know, having a young one with crayons.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if like you read the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the box and they're like, okay, that's the history of crayons. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>how was it on the back of the box. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I haven't seen a cran in years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a question for you. Is it normal

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<v Speaker 1>to weep quietly while you're research and crayons? Didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>have a nostalgia vers Yes? Yeah, I mean just like

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of that that box with like the logo

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<v Speaker 1>and the smell of them. We're talking about Crayola crayons.

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<v Speaker 1>I might as well just go ahead and get that

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. And it's really funny because this

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<v Speaker 1>this how stuff works article went to great links to

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<v Speaker 1>just be about how crayons work. A nice effort. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they you know still, I mean, it's Crayola that

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about in the United States when you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about crayons for the most part. Yeah, and so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that, Um, the author didn't even really talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Crayola as a company much, right, And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong. I thought so too, So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>correct that in the podcast. Um. But I've found out

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<v Speaker 1>from this research that there is hydros Oreo situation going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the cran world. Prang, which is at best

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<v Speaker 1>and also ran in the Kran competition. It was actually

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<v Speaker 1>around before Crayola or making Crans. Remember Praying I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're still around Praying Ones. No, No, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were just an off brand, but they were. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Drocks. Everybody thinks Hi Drocks is a knockoff. No Oreos,

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<v Speaker 1>the knockoff but better, but the superior cook exactly same

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<v Speaker 1>with Crayola, crayons and pranks, Like, what did we do

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<v Speaker 1>why did you pick us? I'm sorry praying this is

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<v Speaker 1>just the reality of the situation that I'm pointing out here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Um. I learned a lot about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but more than anything, I was just taken back to

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<v Speaker 1>my childhood because childhood in Crayola go hand in hand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Plato Crayola crayons, and we need to want Elmer's glue

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. Sure, just knock off the Big three

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<v Speaker 1>or paste. I had the purple kind with a pirate

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Do you remember that one? It was highly edible, toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>It made you know it wasn't toxic, I mean as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know, but the it made you want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat it, Like you wake up and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna eat a little that paste today

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<v Speaker 1>at school? Yeah? Why not? It's funny you mentioned nostalgia though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I did, you probably did too. Went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Crayola Effects and Figures page uh, And there was a

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<v Speaker 1>Yale study that found Yale University that is um. They

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<v Speaker 1>found that the smell of the crayon, the Crayola crayon Yes, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>is ranked number eighteen on the most recognizable sense for adults,

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<v Speaker 1>just ahead of coffee. And peanut butter. Yeah, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>how And I would bet your play outs up there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it crazy though that somebody's like, oh I I

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<v Speaker 1>would have never guessed that was coffee, but they got

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<v Speaker 1>they got yeah, weirdos, Yeah, peanut butter, what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like weird concoction? Yeah? Is that a turd?

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<v Speaker 1>That word is just borderline acceptable to me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the great gross words because the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's spelled, more than anything, the way you spit out

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<v Speaker 1>the words t U r D is just looks gross,

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<v Speaker 1>but you almost you make the sound that that you

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<v Speaker 1>make when you're when you encounter the smell of poop

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<v Speaker 1>in a bathroom or something like third right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons why I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too visceral. Oh man, all right, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into this. Okay, So crayons have not been around

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<v Speaker 1>very long, Chuck. The crayon as we know it as

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<v Speaker 1>in the little round childhood writing implement has only been

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<v Speaker 1>around since the latter half of the nineteenth century. But

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<v Speaker 1>this article goes through great pains to talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of things that are not crayons. But waxy forms

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<v Speaker 1>of art, so we might as well talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that. Like, did you find out how

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<v Speaker 1>to pronounce this bot or batique? Well? I said bautique

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<v Speaker 1>because I did this. Believe it or not. Oh, you've

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<v Speaker 1>done batique before? Nice? It was weirdly, well, not weirdly,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my My elementary school, of which my father

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<v Speaker 1>was principal, as we know, had a a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting programs. I can't remember the name of the class,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like it was sort of like an elective,

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<v Speaker 1>but for elementary school. It was the eighties, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably called that, but it was just different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know. We did photography and all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff that usually don't get to do in great school.

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<v Speaker 1>But we did a bautique course and my dad got

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<v Speaker 1>really into it for a while, So we were boutiquing

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<v Speaker 1>in our family for a short time. Was this like

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<v Speaker 1>right before he got into bedazzlingk uh, he never got

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<v Speaker 1>into that. He was into photography and batiquing. So we

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<v Speaker 1>would batique like the only thing that I remember was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna think this is good. We did herschel Walker

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Bulldog bautique canvases nice that we framed. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>let me figure this out. Unpacked that one there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a h an image of herschel Walker on a canvas. Yeah, Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>it would look nothing like herschel Walker. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>you How was it a herschel Walker camp? I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember correctly, like we would get an artist

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, and then we would batite on like

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<v Speaker 1>a cloth canvas and then we would batique that so

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<v Speaker 1>you would take wax and trace it over it or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Yeah, I don't think it may not

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<v Speaker 1>have been true in the batique style. For we're dancing

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<v Speaker 1>around this a lot and people are like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck is batique? It is a is a method of

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<v Speaker 1>dying cloth where you create these patterns. You spread this

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<v Speaker 1>hot wax over a cloth and then and then he

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<v Speaker 1>died and then the the pigment doesn't get where the

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<v Speaker 1>dot where the waxes, and then later you remove the wax. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't we may have done just some weird,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Southern version of that, because I remember like waxing

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<v Speaker 1>already inked things and then you would crumple them up

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<v Speaker 1>and wrinkle them and then it would give this cool

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like when you would wrinkle waxy fabric,

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<v Speaker 1>that might look like shabby chiking. Maybe I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>So batique strikes me as kind of like tyde. It

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<v Speaker 1>was well, I mean, the end effect could look sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like tyed. It didn't have to that, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to. But the point was, and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>reason it's making an appearance here is that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like wax in a pigment. Right, So, at least two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly even as far back as four thousand years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>there were people who had put together that you could

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<v Speaker 1>do cool things with wax and pigments. Yes, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>fatique has is really not cry on in any way. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's a process, right, but it's the it's

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<v Speaker 1>the seed, the kernel of the beginning of the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of a crayon. Yeah. I think the antacoustic art is

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<v Speaker 1>much closer. Okay, well, like a caustic art is um

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<v Speaker 1>acoustic acoustic? Yeah, it's basically where you take a deconstructed

0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:22.760
<v Speaker 1>crayon and rub it on something that's that's acaustic art. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's taking pigment and then some sort of waxy substance.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and melting it together and then just yeah, using

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<v Speaker 1>it to decorate. Maybe it's like a finger paint or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and then I guess the wax hardens

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got art. Yeah. I mean some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff looks really cool. Did you look at any any

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<v Speaker 1>acoustic art? Really beautiful stuff? Really so, like, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of art would you make with this? Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>any kind Like if you if you just looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it on a picture on your phone, you would just

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<v Speaker 1>think it looks like a regular painting. Oh? Really? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there like a three dimensional quality to it though? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's why maybe that's what I would guess, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where you get up close to

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<v Speaker 1>it and you go, oh, I see, because I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>doing a museums, right, I know, I've been to a museum.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all those doses that it just man if a

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<v Speaker 1>nickel for everyone. Uh. And then of course very famous

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<v Speaker 1>artists like Da Vinci and Edward Munch and basically it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like kind of all of them we're making their

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<v Speaker 1>own crayons in the truest sense of the word crayon,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a French for pencil from cray which means chalk.

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<v Speaker 1>Right c r a I E. Right, yes, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>from the Latin creta, which meant chalk. Right, So this

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<v Speaker 1>was not chalk, No, it wasn't, but chalk is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of similar. And in fact, the earliest manufactured cryan, the

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<v Speaker 1>conte crane um, basically grew out of chalk. Chalk is

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<v Speaker 1>pigment and chalk. Yeah, I guess that's it. Uh And

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<v Speaker 1>um artists would use chalks like you can use still today.

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<v Speaker 1>Some some people create art using chalks, right, um, right,

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<v Speaker 1>past cells, That's what I was looking for. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got past cells. It's not a really difficult hop skip

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<v Speaker 1>and jump to say, well, how about instead of chalk

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<v Speaker 1>we use wax and see what happens. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the content cran came from. But the problem is is

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<v Speaker 1>UM I believe it was made from beeswax, as most

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<v Speaker 1>crans were up to the early nineteenth century. UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>you I think had to warm it before you used it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you probably had to take a flame to it

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, melted a little bit, at least

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<v Speaker 1>get it a little malleable before you could use it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the earliest content crans were black, brown, and red.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a load of the beauty of those three together.

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<v Speaker 1>If you looked up is it contra Conte? I'm saying Conte,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm splitting the difference between the two. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen the response from the psychopathy who says

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<v Speaker 1>it like that? Nut jobs say it like that. Apparently

0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that's your psychopathy? Is just wrong, wrong, wrong? Yeah, it's

0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>apparently a real pet peeve with some people. You really

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<v Speaker 1>need to calm down. And it's psychopathy. I don't say

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. I never will. Yeah, psychopathy, psychopaths. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that guy's a real psychopath. People would just edge

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<v Speaker 1>away from you. Uh, psychopathy. Wait and spoiler alert, where

0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna read an email from a legit psychopath. Yeah,

0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:41.560
<v Speaker 1>we got a few emails from psychopaths. Sorry, Kapas. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you look up the Conte crayon and a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you would see that and go, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen those in art stores. Uh. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, I was like, oh, I know what those are.

0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's kind of like for adults, adult artists who

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<v Speaker 1>want to do crayon art. But that's where crayons came from. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was legit art, right, And like you said, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the earlier artists, pre pre mid nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>artists made their own and then the first manufacturers of

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<v Speaker 1>crans were making them for artists. Correct, So we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get back into the history of crans after we

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<v Speaker 1>take a break. How about that. Let's do it, okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we left off, the manufacturer of krans was

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<v Speaker 1>about to begin and it was all for artists. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the corner batiquing herschel Walker. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what you were doing. Well, I don't think it was batiquing,

0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.240
<v Speaker 1>though it was definitely batiquing. I bet you my dad

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<v Speaker 1>still have some of this stuff in this basement. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>can you bring one to work for Show and Tell?

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I will. Okay, I'm gonna hold you to that.

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bring it up every episode. Uh So, where

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<v Speaker 1>do we leave off? The modern crayon is in its infancy.

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So the kant cran the content cran um is invented

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was the late eighteenth century and

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<v Speaker 1>then by the eighteen twenties. So apparently it's lost to

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<v Speaker 1>history who actually created the first cryan that we would

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<v Speaker 1>recognize as a krean today. Yeah, which surprises me. But

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<v Speaker 1>this article points out um a manufacturer named Joseph Lemercier

0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>who by the eighteen twenties was producing wax crans. Right again,

0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:48.359
<v Speaker 1>though these things are um, bees wax is not easy

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<v Speaker 1>to work with. It was way easier to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the store and buy them, but once you bought them,

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<v Speaker 1>it was still kind of a pain to use. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was I thought this was funny too. There

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<v Speaker 1>was another company in Germany about fifteen years later, J S. Statla,

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<v Speaker 1>that had the same crayons, but they were all encased

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<v Speaker 1>in wood, which just seemed like a very German thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do, right, you know. I don't know why, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It just struck me as very German. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that, you know, they don't they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be clean and they don't want to get their

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<v Speaker 1>hands dirty or anything. Uh So, like you said, beeswax

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<v Speaker 1>no good. Um, I was doing the job, I guess.

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>But this is before kids were using this stuff at all.

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, again, they're making them for artists, but

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.920
<v Speaker 1>even artists are like this is this is not easy

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<v Speaker 1>to use. If there's one thing that can be traced

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Industrial Revolution, that depends on the Industrial Revolution.

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>It is the cran tons of other stuff forward, economic progress,

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:58.119
<v Speaker 1>all that wealth capital, all of that depended on the

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial Revolution. But so too did the krayon like to

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<v Speaker 1>a surprising degree. And it starts with um coal mining, right. What. Yeah,

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.639
<v Speaker 1>in Eastern Europe they were mining coal and they found

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<v Speaker 1>from the coal mining in um, the process of mining coal,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a byproduct called saracen. I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of byproduct. Use pretty neat, you know. Yeah, sarason was

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<v Speaker 1>softer than bees wax, which was a big, big plus

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper than bees wax, which is always good if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the money making business. And so there was a

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<v Speaker 1>check company Offenheim and Ziffa who started making crayons out

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. And as our article puts it, it

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<v Speaker 1>was soon praised for its durability of the marks that

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it made. Right. So it was the good stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was easy to use and it left a good

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<v Speaker 1>mark behind, which are two things you want in a krayon,

0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're an artist, right, You don't want disappearing ink.

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody said, oh, what else can we get from coal?

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<v Speaker 1>In a few years down the line, h right around

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil War. A little after the Civil War a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Charles A. Bowley Boli, let's say Bowli. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a manufacturer from Massachusetts who started using something called paraffin.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's heart of paraffin wax, right. Have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>a package of paraffin wax that you get at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the grocery store? Um? Sure I have. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever noticed that most of the paraffin wax is Golf brand,

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<v Speaker 1>the same Gulf that owns the Gulf seventies six gas stations?

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<v Speaker 1>Have not because it's a byproduct, Yes, And I never

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<v Speaker 1>knew that until today. I'm like, why would Gulf be

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<v Speaker 1>into gas stations and wax that you buy at the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. It never made any sense to me. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I understand because it's a it's a byproduct of fossil

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<v Speaker 1>fuel mining. Yeah. Like why does Yamaha make keyboards and motorcycles?

0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. I don't know that there's an

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that one, like diversification. Maybe that's I would

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>like to be in on that meeting. Like, you know,

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>we're really good at motorcycles. So I'm thinking keyboards, thinking

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>key tars. Uh? Yeah, So I need to look at

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>parafitt in the store. Where is it usually like in

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the baked goods or yeah, like wherever you'll find like

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Mason jars that kind of thing. Oh so like an

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<v Speaker 1>old country store. No, they have it at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 1>You just always walk past it unless you're looking for it, gotcha. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll check it out. And it's golf usually. Yeah,

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that's been my experience. It's always golf. I better walk

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>past it a million times. But all right, we I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep a lookout next time of them in the

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store. No, the the bell Jar aisle. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's probably the baking good aisle. Okay, yeah, bell

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Jar is that right? Huh. I'm getting on my I'm

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 1>just I'm not on my game today, so I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, man. Uh So that was also derived from

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<v Speaker 1>Cole But I guess now petroleum is that I don't know.

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I just as far as I know, it's a fossil

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>fuel byproduct, gotcha. If you don't want to get into

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the ins and outs of the Gulf Corporation. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was when Bolli struck gold and everyone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was like this is the stuff. This is even

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<v Speaker 1>better than saracen um. And he said, all right, I

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>take these and make them into pencils. Right. He was

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the first one to make round crayons that we we

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>would recognize now as crayon. He was, he was the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is around the Civil War in the United States. Yeah,

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so coupled this with uh, post Civil war industrialization like

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about, and then couple this with ah,

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>this thing that was happening in the country, which is, well, hey,

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should start instead of sending kids out in

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<v Speaker 1>the fields when they're six, maybe we should start educating

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>them a little earlier in life. And kindergarten was born

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>again though from industrialization because not only out the fields

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<v Speaker 1>as much. I guess they didn't um and they like

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they needed to be prepared for a life outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the fields, which school would prepare them for pre factory work. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually saw a really interesting article once that basically said,

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<v Speaker 1>like schooling is at the very least initially was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to prepare you for long periods of monotonous work, basically

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<v Speaker 1>busy work, that you were being prepared for life in

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<v Speaker 1>the factory by being in inculcated, having the inculcated in

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<v Speaker 1>you like that, that level of patients and every day

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and going to a place right and then just like

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing. Yeah, it's kind of a droney

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of saying that schooling was preparing you for a

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>factory working interesting, But they made school too fun. They

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>did eventually, because I was one of those kids who

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like school for the most of all. If

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<v Speaker 1>your dad was leading boutique classes exactly, I can see

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<v Speaker 1>how you would. Dude, we were repelling off of mountains

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>in my elementary school. Yeah, that's not how they initially

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>viewed it. They No, you probably don't do that today either. No. Now,

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you hit it at just the point where

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<v Speaker 1>school had gotten more fun than originally planned, but much

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>more dangerous than is allowed today. Oh yeah, all those

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>like that, that parental slip or the permission slip, I

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think that holds water legally anymore. Probably. I think

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that's one step of like fifteen to be able to

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>go on the field. Yeah, it was, and it was

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>like like literally, your child will be going down a

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>mountain via rope, as taught by your principle, And it

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>was on a piece of paper. It was like cut

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>into third, wasn't even an eight by ten piece of

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>paper right in half by eleven And there's an asterisk

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that said principle does not know what he's doing. But

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>what I was saying ultimately was that. So that was industrialization.

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>So coal mining industrialization led to the paraffin wax right. Um,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>industrialization getting kids prepared for factory work led to school,

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and in school they wanted crayons, so that led to

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the creation of crans, and then industrialization itself. Mass producing

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>crayons led to the rise of crayons, and specifically Crayola crayons. Yeah.

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And why did they love him in school? Um? Because

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they didn't make a big mess. Um. It's not like

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>paint that you know. If you ever been a kids

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>class of paint, you know what happens there. Man. Remember

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>wearing like your dad's shirt backwards is like a smock. Yeah. Um,

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just no must, no fuss. It's a very um,

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 1>very tight, handy, little clean product for a kid it

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>is to use. Um. The problem was, like you said,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things were toxic at the time.

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So there was a company called Binny and Smith and

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Binny and Smith. You would love them, chuck, if you

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>like reusing stuff. They were cousins, right, I believe were they? Um,

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>But they were big time into like finding by products

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of stuff and finding new uses for it. Right, Benny,

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do with that? You're gonna You're

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat that sandwich. You're gonna eat the rest of that. Um.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>So they had a patent on an iron oxide red

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that most farmers used in their barns. That's how they

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>really started to make their money. They came up with

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a true black, a carbon black that was used again

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>as a byproduct of some something or other. UM. But

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>they already had crans in use. They used them to

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>mark their own shipments in their factories, in their warehouses. Yeah.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>But Mr Binny's wife, Alice was a teacher, and she said, hey,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys should start manufacturing these. Um. They're already in

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the pigment business, so it made sense. So they took

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the paraffin wax that Boldy had come up with for using,

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they took their pigments that they already had UM and

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>then they said, we need to figure out how to

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>make this non toxic. Tinkered around with that a little

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>bit and the Crayola crane was born I think in

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen eighties. Yeah, and they believe are still mostly

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>made in the US. Uh and I think are still

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>But even they were, they were bought out in the

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>mid eighties by Hallmark um during you know, the big

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Hallmark takeover of the mid eighties when they just started

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>buying everything. Sure, you're like, DuPont, we own you now, ABC. Uh.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Forks Township, Pennsylvania, if I'm not mistaken, is where Creole

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>was still is after all these years there I saw

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Easton Maybe that's where they started out. I think it's

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Forks Township, now, Okay, well we will hear from the

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>good people of Pennsylvania, you will, I'm sure. But they

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>eventually Benny and Smith Company became Crayola, right, Yeah, they

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.239
<v Speaker 1>finally just said enough of the screwing around. It's not

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Benny and Smith presents Crayola. Crayole is the whole thing, yeah,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>which obviously came from the word crayon and then only

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>agenic only agenic really, yeah, what does that mean? Really?

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>You know? And it was Mrs Binney that came up

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>with the name too, But the fact that she was

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a teacher helped a lot because Binny at least was

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>predisposed to listening to teachers, and at the time, teachers

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>were starting to get um a little more cloud their

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>role in society was developing and strengthening, and that by

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties, every state in the Union had a

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>requirement that a kid between the ages of eight and

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>fourteen had to go to school. Um, so there was

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like a ready made um uh relationship. No, what's no

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>demand in schooling? And apparently one of the first customers

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of Crayola was the U. S Government, who bought them

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>for the Native American schools that they forced kids into.

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that, Hey, we took you from your family and

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>we're just drawing your culture while you're here. But have

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you seen these are awesome? Huh? Shall we take another break? Yes?

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, well let's do so when we'll come back

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and talk a little bit how Crayola crayons are made

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and believe it or not, a little bit about controversy

0:31:42.000 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>with crayons. Okay, so industrialization gives us Crayola. Crayola takes

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the stick and runs with it, right, And who was

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the other company praying pranks? Just doesn't exactly roll off

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the tongue, doesn't it a corner? Like? Did you ever

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>noticed you ever see a box of crayons that weren't Crayola,

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Like there's something wrong with them, you know what I mean?

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't look right. It's definitely one of those brands

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that was so iconic and synonymous with its own product that, ah,

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you felt like, you know, you felt bad for the

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>kids who didn't have the Crayola crayon. Yeah, I hope

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming off as elitist. Sure, I had a

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>fancy six dollar Bucks, I had knockoff crans myself, but

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I was also quite familiar with Crayola, and I always

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>just love the Creola ones. The knockoff crants never evoked

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>any emotional response to me. Somehow, Crayola did. I'm looking

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>at a praying now and I definitely have never even

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>seen these. Um, maybe maybe I was the only kid

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>with the praying crayon. Well, and I know the good

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>people at praying right now, we're screaming, we're not knockoffs.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>We pointed that out earlier. Yeah, we already said that earlier.

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>You should listen to the whole episode. Um, remember the

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the giant box that had the sharpener in the back.

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>So let me give you a little bit about that.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you just bringing it up or what are you

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna saying? Oh no, I was just it just sort

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>of occurred to me that how many crayons were This

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>started off with sixty introduced in nine. It was the

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>first box, I believe with the flip top box what

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they call the stadium seating and the built in sharpener, yeah,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 1>in the back. And it debuted on Captain Kangaroo on

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>his showy as a commercial. I'm sure he blurred the

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>lines there anything you're gonna love this? Yeah, and he

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>had blods of cash coming out of his pocket, out

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>of his green jeans exactly. Oh no, it was a

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>different dude, that was Mr Green jan Yeah. I think

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he wore his pants once in a while just to

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>show him whose boss. Uh. Yeah. I used to love

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>those because one of my big peeves still as an adult,

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>is a dull crayon. Yeah. So that sharpener that was

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I would waste a lot of wax trying to get

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the thing sharp. It was a huge innovation for sure. Yeah.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>And then of course the saddest crayon is the the

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>broken in half one that is worn down, so uh,

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not even a round mound at this point. It's

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>worn down to the paper and you gotta start peeling

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the paper away and then I don't know. I was

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>always just like I don't want to play with this anymore.

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Or what about the communist who would like use the

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 1>use it sideways rather than at its point? They would

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 1>just rub it lengthwise so that they would flatten out

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>on one side. They were probably artists, I guess, trying

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to you know, create shading patterns or something. Well, it

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>was lost on me at the time. Yeah, Yeah, I

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't realized that I yelled at a lot of kids

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>unnecessarily apparently. Yeah, I used crayons from my very uh

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 1>now famous village people portrait. What else you gonna use

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>for that? I don't know, maybe color pencils, but that's

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>if you're just trying to impress somebody. Yeah, I never

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>got into those. They're hard to I mean, like they

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>just didn't show up quite as well crayons, says I'm here. Yeah,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>And it would you press down hard, and when you

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>pull it off, the page sometimes stick a little bit,

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and it would make that little sound when you pulled

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it off. Forgot about that. Sound man John Hodgman is

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>having a very hard time if he's listening to this

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>nostalgia asan episodes back, not just from this episode either.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't think he listens anywhere? Probably not. I know

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of podcasters now, and they none of them

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>will they stop listening once they get to know somebody.

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>For the most part, I don't do that. I enjoy

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:07.479
<v Speaker 1>hearing my Friends podcast. I think that makes me an outlier, though,

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>because I've heard several marks like, yeah, I can't listen

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>anymore that now that we're friends. Well, I wonder if

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like, um, you know, if you like

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody in real life, you very frequently can't be friends

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 1>with them on Facebook because it's just like a different,

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>what hate herbal side of them. I thought that's how

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Facebook work in in ideal situations, But you've never had

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody where just like I can't listen to you rant

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>about this for another minute friends on Facebook anymore because

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I like you in real life and I want to

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>keep liking you in real life. But I'm gonna hate

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>your guts if we remain Facebook friends, or if I

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>keep following you on Twitter, because I can't stand you

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>on social media in real life. I really like it.

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean totally. It's probably the same thing.

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I gotta dude like that. And it's not even like

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>political stuff. It's just I don't know, sort a jerky

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>complaining where I'm like, that's who you are, Like I

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>thought you were a really nice guy, right, But that's

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It's like it brings out the worst.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Social media brings up the worst in people. Yeah, the

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>worst worst. All right, So where were we? We were

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.919
<v Speaker 1>talking about crayons, right, So we hadn't really started yet

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.919
<v Speaker 1>talking about the colors. I feel like we should because

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>there's one thing, this is what Crayola did better than

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>anybody else. So early on they've identified a um another company,

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>arrival company called mons Ol. Mons Al made really high

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 1>end crayons for artists, and Kreola said, you're making better

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>crayons than we are. We're gonna buy you. We're gonna

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>buy your cran division. So they adopted the techniques and

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the pigments that mons Al made but months old. Since

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:57.919
<v Speaker 1>they were gearing themselves towards artists. Their packages would say

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>like five intermediate huge medium chrome medium, value artists cryans,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and so instead of having the keeping the months old words,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>which would be like medium, uh medium reddish blue or

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>something like that, they would change the name to plump.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>And then they would use other great names like periwinkle, dandelion.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Nowadays it's things like macaroni and cheese or razmataz rasberry. Okay,

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but there's there's They used names that kids can get in,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>true and that not only can get into, like those

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 1>words swirling around, swirling around in your in your consciousness,

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.280
<v Speaker 1>shape your worldview, like the world was kind of beautiful

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>and there was beautiful words and things involved in it.

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was not one of them, but but

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the the and as a matter of fact, some of

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>their early crayons were called things like venetia and read

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 1>or cobalt blue, stuff you would find in an artist

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>paint box. Um. And they they they figured out very

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>early on that the name of the color means as

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>much as the color itself. Yeah, And I think the

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>first editions in nineteen o three they used some of

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>them like uh, copper and gold and when they're one

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>other one silver yeah, silver, of course, uh. And they

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't use any other metallics to the nineteen eighties. Uh,

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess said it covered there. But I

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>think you're right. The naming, I mean, that's also gotten

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>them into a little bit of trouble. We talked about

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a little controversy. Um, and you know you didn't think

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>about this when you're a little kid in the seventies

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and eighties, Well, not as a little white kid. No,

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you're a more we're more uh for thinking society now.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>So when say that again, we're more poor thinking society.

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>So when you see a crayon, um that's called flesh

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's clearly you know, uh, white white person, peachy

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of complexion of a crayon, that's not cool because

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>they are all different colors of people. And Crayola got

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it right. I don't know if it was from intense

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>pressure or internally or what, but in the when was

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that nineteen sixty two, they said, yeah, we probably shouldn't

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>call this color flesh. Apparently they this was teachers again,

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 1>this is listening to teachers and teachers saying like, you know,

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is okay. There's apparently a study

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that found that kids typically used that to color and

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>drawings of people as like a default skin color. So

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Crayola very wisely, I think, and and magnanimously said sorry

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>about that. We're going to change it to peach like

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you said. Uh. And then they also said, you know,

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>on their part, they said, you know, what we were

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about was the what they called them more or

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>less universal color found on the palm of hands. But

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I buy that. Yeah, I that

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>was apparently the company line, And I'm not sure if

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I buy that that's even true from this article. What

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>about this one just seems so patently racist that I

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>can't believe it was ever a name until you look

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>into it a little further. Indian red, yes, which was

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>apparently derived from a plant pigment in India, And they

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean it like that, but then they thought, hey,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's an association people are going to make. Probably

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>not a good idea again, apparently teachers saying like, what

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>are you guys doing? That's like as bad as having

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>your team's baseball mascot chief nacka homer or something like that.

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah her chief Wahoo. Yeah. Um. They change Indian read

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to chestnut, and uh, chestnut, it's very nice. It's a

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>great name. No Bert Siana apparently. Also they've only dropped

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 1>one other name, although they have like something like three

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>what are called true colors, but then something like eight

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred names, so they've clearly used different names for the

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>same color before, like magenta was renamed a red, violet

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.919
<v Speaker 1>was renamed magenta. I believe. Um, so they'll they'll do

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that old switchero here there. But apparently there are only

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>three names they just completely got rid of. Or no,

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's a fourth one they retired of the they

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>were retired the color dandelion, but just this year. Yeah,

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>but Indian, red, um flesh, and Prussian blue were all

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 1>names that were taken out and never brought back. And

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Prussian blue not for any reason other than kids couldn't

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>identify with Prussia because no one knows what Prussia is anymore.

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you might have said three, there's three? Oh,

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>is there right? I saw an article, Uh, it was

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like a college newspaper on their website. They said that

0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>they've crayoles sold more than a hundred thousand crayons. I

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>can think you're missing three years three or more zeros

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>there unless it was like today, you know, that's pretty funny.

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Did yeah, it got me. Um they now, you know,

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>like any company, Um, I can't just leave it with

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the good old fashioned crayon. He's gonna diversify. So you

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>see things these days like Neon colors, and and of

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>course they make markers and all kinds of good stuff.

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I love the Crayola markers. Yeah, me too, the big

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>fat marker, just the shape, the white with the color

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>against it and everything. It was well and a lot

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of those now for kids are washable, so um, when

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the kid draws on the coffee table, it just wipes

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>right off, very very nice. And the brand new white couch,

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>which why did you even get that when you have

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a kid, what are you thinking? Oh, we would never

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 1>have that because of wine consumption. It would be a

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>purple couch. After a couple of years it would be magenta.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got some crayle effects, were you well? First? Okay,

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 1>now you go ahead, Now you go ahead. The largest one.

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Of course, any iconic brand like this is going to

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>make a super giant one put on display somewhere. They

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>did that, huh yeah, big blue, and it's kind of

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>neat the way they did it though. They took a

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty three thousand old blue crayons that they

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>gathered from kids all over the country and they melted

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>those down into big blue, giant pound crayon. That's a

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>great fate for some used up crayons, you know. Yeah,

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>make three billion a year, not a hundred thousand. I

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that guy was thinking. I don't either.

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And maybe they met a minute or they left off.

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 1>There was something missing from that sentence. I think. Uh,

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and the average kid supposedly, and I'm sure they're talking

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>about dumb old American kids, by the time they're ten

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>years old, they have gone through seven DWY crayons brand crayon. Wow,

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. Yeah, we probably could have gotten someday

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 1>out of these guys. Maybe we should retroactively and that

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>how it works. Yeah, we get money out of Creola,

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and we get sued by praying, right, and then it

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>all just comes out to ze right, we give praying

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>our Creola money. Yeah. So, um Creole apparently also did

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a survey to find out what the top ten colors

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>are of all time. Blue. That's my favorite color, but

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>my favorite crayon's probably violet. That's the whole concept of it. Um,

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that's number three, Violet is number two is red, green

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>is four, carnation, pink is five, black is six. Just

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>try up black. You like the black cryan? Huh? Well

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>for drawing lines, makes sense? I got it? Turquoise blue, blue, green, yeah, periwinkle,

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>yeah my name, I think so too. But it's also

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a nice lovely type of silvery blue if I remember correctly, right,

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I think so silvery purplish. I'm not sure. I'm not

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>very good with colors. Emily's great with that stuff, and

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it will ask her, Yeah, say what's periwinkle? Yeah, and

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>she'll say it's but I need a thing. She'll say, like, oh,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>the whatever in our house is Perrywinkle. I got you know,

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I got you? Uh. And then magenta, yes, not big

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>on magenta. Yeah, I think that's it. Chuck, what's your

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 1>favorite of all time? I don't know. I don't think

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I have a favorite color of crayon or maybe at all.

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I see like black. Okay, we'll go with that, Johnny cash, Um,

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I do have one more thing. It's funny that one

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>thing that we usually do is look at just when

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>we're searching things online, we'll look at news just to

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>see if there's anything breaking and believe it or not,

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I looked at crayons Crayola, and it was an eight

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>minute old story, breaking story right before we record, like

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>CNN breaking news, like actual breaking news. That's right, they

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>have they're releasing a new blue this year. Uh. There

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>was some scientists at Oregon State University Go Ducks, Ducks, No,

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>that's University Oregon, Oregon State, the Loggers, Periwinkle Cowboys. Uh.

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>The in two thousand nine at Oregon State, they were

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>um doing some research trying to discover materials for electronics,

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and as often happens, and something accidental occurred, they mixed

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>an oxide with some other chemicals, heated it up, and

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>they discovered a brand new pigment of blue. In two

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine, why, I in m in yanman. I'm not

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 1>sure how it's pronounced. That's not very marketable, but it's

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a very sort of cobalt. Yeah, this is very vivid blue.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 1>And uh, we should do something on pigments at some point,

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't. It's just weird to me that they

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>could say, like, no, this is a brand new color, um,

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but let's definitely do that. It would be kind of

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting the science behind that. So Crayola is making uh

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 1>this ynman into a and the outsourced that they let

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 1>kids vote many many entrants, uh to this name, and

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:19.959
<v Speaker 1>they are naming it blutiful. Oh I know right, Yeah,

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like get your get your color naming staff back,

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>get the team back together. Crayola Blutiful is what happens

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>when you ask ten thousand six year olds. Uh so

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Bluetiful is coming out just in time for the holiday season.

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Well there, yeah, that's crayons, specifically Crayola crayons. Sorry for

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the buzz marketing, but we couldn't help it. Did we

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>get organ state they're the cowboys right now. Thank you

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>guest producer Matt for looking it up. I like periwinkle cowboys.

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh well, if you want to know more about crayons,

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>go get some crayons, break them open and smell them.

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 1>It'll tell you everything you need to know. And in

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the meantime, it's time for a listener mail. And I

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>also want to say to the good people of praying

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>once again, people should support praying as well as the

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>o G at the very least, go out in diversify

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>your crayon portfolio, you know, alright, like like Yamaha did

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>with their feyboard and jet skis. That makes a little

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>more sense. At least they knew how to make engines

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>from a motorcycle. Um, all right, this is I'm reading

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>another Satanist reply, but it felt like this one should

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:42.439
<v Speaker 1>be read. Hey guys, I'm a Christian pastor. As such,

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I hold strong religious convictions, and yet I've always found

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it incredibly important, both personally and professionally, to learn what

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I can about other belief systems. So you're doing it right,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 1>We're storing my faith in humanity. I want to thank

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you for the episode on the Church of Satan. It's

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>not an organization that I've taken the opportunity to learn

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>much about, perhaps out of fear or pride, but I

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.399
<v Speaker 1>found what you share to be very informational in any

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>study of other belief systems. It is not only important

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to know what we disagree on, but perhaps just as importantly,

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>but we do agree on. While there are clearly areas

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.720
<v Speaker 1>where Satanist and I would never agree, there are actually

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>many things that we have in common. In a climate

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 1>of increased divisiveness, is important to focus on what we share,

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>not what divides us. Your episode open my mind and

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>gave me new insight and for that I am incredibly grateful.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your show. Please keep up the good work.

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that great? Yeah? Uh signed peace. Reverend Lee Finish

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>of Temple, Texas. Thank you, Reverend Lee soon to be

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:45.759
<v Speaker 1>former reverend. And this is uh Lee, Lady Lee, I

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>saw that, but it could be a man. No, it's

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a lady. Oh it is well. Thank you, reverendly Again. Seriously,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>we heard from you and from one other reverend who

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>basically said, you know, thanks for opening my eyes and

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and I I find it very interesting too. That's just

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>opening their eyes but also like restoring their faith, like

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it confirmed their faith running out to church and Satan

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 1>right it was challenged. They thought about it and they said, nope,

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm doubling down. And I feel good about this after

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>being confronted with opposing viewpoints, critical thinking. Yeah, nicely done.

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