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Speaker 1: What you're gonna take my scholarship away, You're gonna put

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Speaker 1: them on probation. Yeah, I got paid.

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Speaker 2: I got paid. Yes, I got paid.

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Speaker 1: Yo yo yo. Welcome to the O G. I'm back,

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Speaker 1: special special episode for me, real O G.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a real O G my one of

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Speaker 3: my ogs, Man Tim Hardaway. I gotta add the senior. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I gotta add the senior. Yes, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I respect, but appreciate you OJI man, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate you all having me. It's not

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Speaker 1: about respect with the senior. It's just that when you

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Speaker 1: say Tim Hardaway, now they be thinking about Tim Hardaway Junior.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is a blessing though.

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Speaker 1: Oh no's no question. I love it. You know. The

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Speaker 1: thing is, though they probably give him some of my

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen, listen to his credit, he's earned it, but

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Speaker 3: it's a lot of money out there.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of money he's playing well.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, asshole.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna touch on this later, but now that

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Speaker 3: we already kick started it because he has a son

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Speaker 3: that plays basketball, and I have a son that played basketball,

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Speaker 3: and that's.

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Speaker 1: A slippery slope. It's a slippery slope.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to damage the relationship that you have

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Speaker 3: this motherfucker who's daddy? It's cooler than me?

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Speaker 4: Oh lady's daddy, Maverige day.

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Speaker 1: I give you that.

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Speaker 3: I give you that, But when it comes to that,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying to myself, they kind of fight that a

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Speaker 1: I don't know about your situation or your situation.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're definitely fighting.

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Speaker 3: Because I could be literally sitting from me to you

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Speaker 1: I can't hear me exactly exactly. I've been in that situation,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard. It's hard. One day, my wife, my daughter,

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Speaker 1: And when I didn't say nothing for that first game,

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Speaker 1: But now you just causing chaos between both of y'all.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, that's how we had to live, you

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Speaker 4: Speaking of growing up, how you get from Chicago.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. How does that have you?

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Speaker 4: How do you get from Chicago to Texas? Pass?

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Speaker 3: I ain't had no n I l anyway him. Nothing

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Speaker 1: I'm won't tell y'all something pastors, a quiet, kept city,

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Speaker 1: a lot of paper. I got paper, they got paiper.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's how I got.

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Speaker 1: I can say. Now, I mean, what you're gonna what

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Speaker 1: I got paid. Okay. I always wondered. I always wondered.

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Speaker 4: If it wasn't UTAP, where it was it nowhere.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't UTAP, it's probably been probably Juco I had.

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Speaker 1: There was no other schools. I say, no other schools.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know, a lot of people always asked me

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Speaker 1: So but but you had to dribble on the concrete.

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Speaker 1: You had nowhere to go. So I'm dribbling between four people.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have nothing else, was no basket. You're just

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Speaker 4: It, Monty Williams. The only way out. You took the TV.

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Speaker 6: I'm nineteen twenty years old that TV secals, Yeah, across TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ham what what what could have I have done?

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Speaker 1: Some crazy ship? But I ain't never yeah you know

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Speaker 4: It was so old school that the TV was like that.

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Speaker 3: through like a frisbee. I would have went into the stands.

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00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: Lawsuit Yeah yeah, laws suit facts. They give it that

433
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: lossus every thing.

434
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: Dude, did you Isaiah Stewart? Oh with the jail that night?

435
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: To jail? I need the footage? Yeah, I need ever

436
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: what happened? I see what happened to whatever what happened

437
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: he went to jail. Oh he's in trouble. I need

438
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: the footage. Yeah, he's but it's gonna come out.

439
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 6: Talk about talk about because you're seeing it obviously with

440
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 6: your son and he's playing great. Need to disturbing everything,

441
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 6: but the difference in basketball when you played and then

442
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 6: they started gradually getting to where we played into where

443
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 6: the game is now. I mean, obviously everyone talks about things,

444
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 6: but you lived it. You're a Hall of Famer through it.

445
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 6: Like talk to us about where basketball and where you

446
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 6: think basketball is compared to what it.

447
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: Was back then. It was physical. I mean I tell folks,

448
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: when you when you like if you pass the ball

449
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: and you running through the lane. You're getting getting chucked.

450
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: You got, you got. It's like carrying a football. You

451
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta protect your ribs and your stomach and

452
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: your gutting you. And when they say you gotta do

453
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: sit ups, you gotta do a million sit ups because

454
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: you know it's for people could chuck you. And they're

455
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: not chucking you, they like hitting you. I mean you

456
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: was getting hit, yes, so uh it was it was physical.

457
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 1: It was physical. Uh some of these files flagrant ones,

458
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: flagrant two's. That was just a regular file. I mean

459
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: like like like come on, man, come on, I sometimes

460
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: I laugh, you know, and I want to tell you this.

461
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: So with with with the rules. Today you could take

462
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: a day off or whatever. Back then, you couldn't take

463
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: a day off. Back then it was injury reserve. Yes

464
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: it was five games. Yes it was five games. So

465
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: if you're talking about taking a day off, you gotta

466
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: take five days off on five games regularly. Put you

467
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: on five days five games. Could be like ten days

468
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: five games.

469
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: Remember that that was being just.

470
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: Take the game just you just couldn't take the game off.

471
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: So so so be careful. You know when you say

472
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: my ankle hurt.

473
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 4: No doubt. How does it really hurt?

474
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: How bad does it really hurt? You know, like like

475
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: your finger? You're talking about your finger broke. It's some

476
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: people playing with they broke fingers. I remember they talking

477
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: ab Yeah, you know my thumb hurt. Dude, take that

478
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: thing up. Let's go with it. Listen, you hurt in Miami.

479
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: You rather go take that ship up and played in

480
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: and go into play pin playin a fucking finger could

481
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: be hanging off.

482
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Pick that bitch up and take it back on back.

483
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: I want to go over there in that play pin

484
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: because that was pick it up and take it back

485
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: on That was more dangerous than this. You would rather

486
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: practice hurt than to go into play paying with in Miami.

487
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: I told him you.

488
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: Would rather practice hurt than to go into play pain

489
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: in Miami.

490
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 3: No quest bike over there, it's weights over there, it's

491
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: medicine balls over there. By the time practice is over,

492
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: you have completely mentally push yourself to the limit.

493
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: What's that machine that you go like this rolling in

494
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: with your arms. That's the worst machine ever? Whoever we

495
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: ever invented that? They asked you question, man, I did

496
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: that thing for thirty minutes. I was mad than a month,

497
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I said, Bill, whoever give me the name that you invented?

498
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: So I go because I'm strong. Now that's pat with

499
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: that Jedi mind trick. You don't want to practice that

500
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: going over in the play pin. Ain't nothing playful about

501
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: that ship over nothing. It's not a game. It's not

502
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: a game. Not a game.

503
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 6: Serious preshure off of surgery and you you got to

504
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 6: take some time off.

505
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 4: But it was getting closer to it. They put me

506
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 4: in there, said I'm practicing.

507
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Ain't doing that? You rather doing that? You're crawling down

508
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: the court. Now I can still go. I won't be

509
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: over there. I mean it. It's two hours, it's two

510
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: two and a half hours, set ups, push up waits,

511
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: riding the bike, riding the bike or doing I don't

512
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: even know what that machine was called. Whatever that machine was.

513
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: Here, StairMaster, StairMaster.

514
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Just save your legs, you save your legs. I don't

515
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: even know what that machine was. But yeah that that, yeah.

516
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: That whoever inter that needs.

517
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: The whole play situation. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna

518
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: ride the bike for for an hour and a half. No, no, no,

519
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: we rather just run up and down the court. Just

520
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: do some three man weave no we get doing no, no, no,

521
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: we do not want to get on that bike.

522
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: You know that's that's heat culture. Yes, but you and

523
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: I came towards the end and I was it was

524
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: handed to me obviously, but you know it was started

525
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: with you know, your your your generation and your teams.

526
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: And I watched you speak on it a while ago

527
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: and once another person that don't get enough flowers Keith

528
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: Askings talk about what Keith Askings meant to heat culture,

529
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: because when I first got to the Heat, Keith asking

530
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: was my guy. He was who I worked out, where

531
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: he was, who I shot where he was, who I

532
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: watched film with. He was who I had those mentally,

533
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: you know, intimate conversations with about how to survive in

534
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: this league and what I need to do. So you

535
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: spoke on heat Keith Askings being like almost even bitting

536
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: heat culture somewhat. Can you just talk about that some

537
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: of those things with what Keith meant to that, because

538
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he get his.

539
00:29:52,720 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Flowers unsung hero man unsung a yes, uh man. I

540
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: you know you know when a guy come to you

541
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: and you you're not playing well or you he knows

542
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: that a person is in not it's not in your caliber,

543
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: and you want your teammates come you say, yo man,

544
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: yo yo bigs yo man. He shouldn't be doing that

545
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: to you. You know, Yo, let's clamp down. There's not

546
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: enough of that in the NBA right now. You can't

547
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: go to your teammate and talk to your teammate right

548
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: now because he's not he's thinking that. You know you're

549
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: getting on him. You know that you're not doing something whatever,

550
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Ka used to come to us and

551
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: tell us, Yo, man, you got to pick up your

552
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: game a little bit, and we're listen. Ka, come in

553
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: every dad practice, every dad practice, put his hard hat

554
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: on and do his work every day in the game.

555
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Put his hard hat on, do what he needed to do.

556
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: He never complain if when he was hurt, he went

557
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: there and got his treatment, came out, did what he's

558
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Never can play. And when you talk

559
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: about culture, when you see a person like that that

560
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: never complains, go out there and do his job each

561
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: and every day the same way, work on this game

562
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: every day, the same way. We all want to just

563
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: be quiet and be just like him that's dope and

564
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: just coming there and just work. That's dope. No matter what.

565
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: He never complained if the practice was hard, it was

566
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: always hard. We're gonna do the same thing. He gonna

567
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: come out, he said, He'll tell you this, he said,

568
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: you know what it is. You know what it is.

569
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like this every day. It's just like.

570
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: It's not gonna change and pick up basketball. It's gonna

571
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: be just like this. It's not gonna change. We knew it.

572
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: We knew it. But it was like he was. He's

573
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: been around that friendranchise since day one. Yes, so he

574
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: was even though you know, you got some guys that

575
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: was olding him. Some guys wasn't. He was the eldest

576
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: statement on the team and we always you know, he

577
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: let us do what we need to do. He let

578
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: us be leaders. But we knew who the leader was

579
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: and we knew who started. Really the heat culture.

580
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: Wow, was that was that? Still? Mouthpieces and pads up?

581
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Yes, tapembrace, well, well you always got a tape. You

582
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: always got to have knee brace. I'm not wearing mouthpiece

583
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: and that not if you get if you hit me

584
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: in my mouth, were having a fight that we thought

585
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: that that means you you know what you did that on.

586
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 6: Purpose bringing it to the table, though, give us some

587
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: good heat locker room stories from your time.

588
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, uh, I don't say this. So when the

589
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: locker room, the ultimately funniest shitn't work. When the locker room,

590
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Pat Rally give him the speech, So Zoe, Zoe had

591
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to let out this. I mean, I guess his stomach

592
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: was bubbling or whatever. You know, how you sit down,

593
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, you try to ease it out. Zoe stood

594
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: up and put his leg up and let one rip out.

595
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Ten seconds Pat Pat stopped talking, turned around. You saw

596
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: his face, he smiling and going the other We was like, okay, okay,

597
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: but he never said nothing. He never said nothing. He

598
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: was like, but damn, you're not gonna say nothing. Somebody

599
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: else did it. You probably throw him out or something

600
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: like that. Afterwards, when Pat walked out, we looked at

601
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: and so it was like ship I had to go listen.

602
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: But another story. So we were on a plane, got

603
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: a big game, We win a big game, so wed

604
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: some like Austin used to have his boom box and

605
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: we used to play the boom box and everybody. We

606
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: had a soul train line soul train. We had our

607
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: own plane that's pat got up and was in the

608
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: soul train line dance.

609
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: He got one dance. He got one dance. That's come

610
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: on up to the Rise and Ship. You got one dance.

611
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: I think we was in Phoenix or Milwaukee. He got

612
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: mad one day. I think it was in Phoenix. Got

613
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: mad than a motherfucker.

614
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: He was mad.

615
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: And it was after the game and he did not

616
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: know because it was closed up that that the gator

617
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: raye thing or he did not know it was like

618
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: like ic in it or whatever. He picked it up

619
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: and tried to put it over his head and stumbled,

620
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: and so he could finish his speech on how mad

621
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: he was. He walked in the back with the coach

622
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: lounges that Ron coked him mad to go see if

623
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: he was all right. I don't think he was all right.

624
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: Packet man. It's bad for him. Yeah.

625
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: He always hurt hisself. Yeah, he mad as hell. He

626
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: hurt hisself. He got mad at us and kicked the

627
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: damn door. And well you see him for you to

628
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: have the blew his fucking hip hop kicking the door,

629
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: and they got here replacement because he's mad at us.

630
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: But I kicked the mother door.

631
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this man, he do anything for

632
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: the team. Yes, he would do anything for the team.

633
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: Anything he said, he said, he told us one thing.

634
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: He said, if y'all want the fans to come out,

635
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: y'all got to go out there and win. There's nothing

636
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: I could do, There's nothing Mickey could do. It's all

637
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: on you all. If y'all want fans to come, y'all

638
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: got to go out there and win. And we just

639
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: went out there. We just went out there and just

640
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: played basketball the way we practiced. And if it was overtime,

641
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: people was like, damn, y'all not even breathing hard. I

642
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: was like, no, we practiced doing half, we run. We

643
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: all good.

644
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: What was that? What was that? The Heat Knicks? What

645
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 4: was that? Really?

646
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Like crazy than a motherfucking because you see it on

647
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: TV and it was awesome. But loved it. That shit

648
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: was real. Loved it, loved it. But it was created

649
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: by pat Rolly. It wasn't created by Miami Heat and

650
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks. It was created because of pat Rolly.

651
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: He left. He left without telling them or a syent them,

652
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: a fax or something like that. So it all created

653
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: from him. And let me tell you something so we

654
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: go to everybody get traded or get to the team,

655
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: Like Damn Marley went to Phoenix, and one went to Charlotte,

656
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: and one went to Dallas, and one went to my

657
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: Golden State, and one I think it was another somebody else. PJ.

658
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Brown went to New Jersey. One so went Madison Square

659
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: Guard eight pm, game t T. I'm always the last

660
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: one to leave. Go out there. I'm tying up my shoe,

661
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: getting my stuff ready. Past Hey. He ain't even called

662
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: me big Tim. He called me bigs. He said, hey, Biggs.

663
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 1: I said, so Pat, I thought he was like about

664
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: to say some some you know. He said, Man, you know,

665
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: we all want to y'all cities and one can y'all

666
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: win this one for me? I never told nobody and

667
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: I looked at him. I was like, So we go

668
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: out there, I said, yo, Man said, we got to

669
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: win this one for Pat. We got we have to

670
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: come out winning this one for Pat. We go out

671
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: there and beat him by like twenty five thirty. So

672
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: Pat was so happy, You're just telling his face. He

673
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: never showed it, when I could tell in his face

674
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: that he was real happy. Because we went out there.

675
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: He asked us to do something, and he knowed that

676
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: we was always behind him, like he's behind us, so

677
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: I mean his his motivational speeches. You're right, I don't

678
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: care what nobody say. You run through a brick wall.

679
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: Oh question.

680
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 3: Motherfucker came in how he's talking about coming in with

681
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: that cooler and he tried to throw it. Motherfucker came

682
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: in there one day with a cooler full of ice water.

683
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: Were like, what the fuck going on around? Thirsty motherfucker

684
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: put his head in the ice water for thirty second

685
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: ice water. This ship got to be freezing cold, and

686
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: pull his head out and say, you gotta want to

687
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: win this game, like you gotta take your last breath,

688
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: I said this, motherfucker. So this water got to be

689
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: cold as motherfucker's gonna catch the amonia. Yeah, so he's

690
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: gonna catch them, mooya. But like he said, that ship,

691
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 3: it resonated to us and we were like, oh ship, this motherfucker.

692
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: Did that to y'all. Fuck almost died in here trying

693
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: to get We want to win, y'all. Magic told me

694
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: he did that to them.

695
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: See that's how you get Jedi mine trup so Jedi

696
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 3: mind trip.

697
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: So he did it with them. Nobody on that team

698
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: was on our team. So this was the first time

699
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: we saw it. That was second time Zoe saw it

700
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: because he was with us, with us and so I

701
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: bet I bet you it didn't bother Zoe. But y'all,

702
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: y'all was really just like, yeah, let's go, Like this

703
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker ready to die, but ship, let's go. He for real,

704
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: he was ready to doe, but he's for real. And

705
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: he had his head in the water for about a

706
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: good thirty forty seconds. Yeah, Like I was like, Okay,

707
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: do we need to pull this monthfuger out? Yeah, now,

708
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all right. He was all right. It

709
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: was cold, he was all right. But no, man, them speeches,

710
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: they was on points all the time. They wasn't on

711
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: point some of the time. Or he got another fucking speech. No,

712
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: we was like, okay, he got this speech. Okay, let's

713
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: let's hit this motherfucker. I want to hear what you want.

714
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: I want I want to see what you got today,

715
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: because it felt like it's like.

716
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: The O G podcast on Tuesday.

717
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like every fucking speech he was talking

718
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: to you personally, even though it's fifteen other dudes in

719
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: this heels like it's just you.

720
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: And him in that room and he talking to you. Yep,

721
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: that's what it felt. Yes, that's how it was.

722
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: And that's why anybody that played for Pat would would

723
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: put it on the line for him. Misery's ain't in between,

724
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: as the man said, and I will quote, there's winning

725
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: and that's misery. Ain't no in between. And I lived

726
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: that ship. Yeah, no, for real, didn't. I just tell

727
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: you on the last one. I can't function in losing spaces,

728
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: make bad decisions when I started losing their life and

729
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: ship just don't.

730
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Go right in practice. Don't say nothing in practice. That's

731
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: another hour, So Ike Austin in the playoffs, Ike said

732
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: some we all looked at Ike and we was like,

733
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: you son of a gun, You mother, Why did you

734
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: open your mouth? We was five minutes from out of

735
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: this motherfucker and you opened your mouth. It's another hour.

736
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: He pulled, you know them papers. This is why Ike

737
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: and he went down the line. Now we're gonna run

738
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: through this again. Oh you talking about somebody was about

739
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: to get murdered, Ike, Ike putting downstairs. You shook everybody.

740
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: Ask man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm gonna

741
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: make it up to y'all. I said, yeah, you're gonna

742
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: make it up to us by winning this game tomorrow. Man, please,

743
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you can't say nothing practice.

744
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: I was gonna say the fact that he even said

745
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: something to Pregnice on I can't believe he even said nothing.

746
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: I don't say ship, you don't say not. The only

747
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: thing you hear is his voice and whistles in a whistle.

748
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: That's all you hear, Pregnice. Yep, where were you? You're

749
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: getting on Bob for calling back, dude? Get do though

750
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: like that? No motherfucker, get mad, dude, what you do?

751
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: Still think my dog shout out?

752
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: But I could do, man, I could do the best.

753
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: The best you be cussing them out, Bob. That wasn't

754
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: a foul, Yes it was. You're not even real referee,

755
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: how you know that was?

756
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: I could say, if I played, if I could do it,

757
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: with the greatest quote of if I played the day,

758
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: they have to pay me four hundred million for.

759
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: What I did.

760
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: If I paid the day they have to pay me,

761
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: And he said that ship was swage. They paid me

762
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: four hundred million for the ship.

763
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: I used to do. I could do it was a

764
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: bad man. Yes, sir, tell y'all another story. They used

765
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: to get on Bob, p J and and so so

766
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: they got ready. He's like PAMP playing Bob knockout. I

767
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: put on my ice and I said, right there, and

768
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: I was the instigator, ship talking guy.

769
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't believe it.

770
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Bob.

771
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: Bob was fucking them, yes, yes, yes, oh my god.

772
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean he would shoot deep one, dribble bag him back.

773
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: It's like, are you mad? Because I mean, uh we

774
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: we we had to practice for two and a half hours.

775
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: I said. But I said, but y'all wanted to play him.

776
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: That's your fault. I said, Bob is killing y'all. PJ

777
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: was mad. Next thing we know, the window open up.

778
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: Hey Bob, Bobby, come here, Bobby, let me talk you

779
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: for a second. That was Pat called him. Bobby were

780
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: like all he had to go to the principal office.

781
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: The next day. He was like, what's up, Bob, motherfucker,

782
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: y'all got me in trouble. Listen, let me tell you.

783
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Somebody said. He said, I said, for you kicking the ass.

784
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: You in trouble. They was talking ship. He was like, yeah,

785
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: I know, he said. He said, I was taking a

786
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: confidence away from it. I said, okay, that motherfucker.

787
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: Do is a smart motherfucker because when we got there,

788
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: it was the same thing with us. But we used

789
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: to play nets, and everybody thought this with your hand.

790
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: I don't know how he used to get it off

791
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: sling that ship up there, but he used to play

792
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: us in nets, shooting free throws for nets, and he

793
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: would win money on us all the time. But quick

794
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: story with Do is what he did for me in

795
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: my career is when I got to the heat, he

796
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: told me the great the great bigs average rebound every

797
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: three minutes. So he used to challenge me the average

798
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: rebound every three minutes. So what he would do is

799
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: he would keep my rebounds and we would keep my

800
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: man and if I went over, then every minute I

801
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: went over that I didn't get a rebound, I would

802
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: owe him twenty. Every minute is that I was under

803
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: the three minutes and I got a rebound, he would

804
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: owe me twenty. We would settle up at the end

805
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: of the month. You would keep all that. In my mind,

806
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: I was chasing them boys because I knew great rebounders

807
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: average the rebound every three minutes. That was something you

808
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: told me and I didn't know that, but he told

809
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: me that. So all my career, at least every three minutes,

810
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: I gotta be grabbing a rebound.

811
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta be rebound. Knows the game inside. Now.

812
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: He played at a high level. He played at a

813
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: high level. And when you have a guy like that

814
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: in your corner, Yes, one thing you can do is

815
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: listen and go for it.

816
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: Yes, what's your what's your thoughts on the current Heat team?

817
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: Stay healthy? Yes? First of all, stay healthy. They passed

818
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: up too many shots. All this pump faking and one

819
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: dribbing and pass over. Here, take the shot that's given

820
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: to you. Take the shot that's given to you. And

821
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: it's another thing me personally, Terry Roseier. You gotta let

822
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: him go. You gotta let him go. He knows what

823
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: to do. He's him. Yeah, you're saying, go be him.

824
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: He's a point guard. He's a young guy that go

825
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: out there and get it done. And he's gonna find

826
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: the people and make them you know, he wro He

827
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: gonna get his twenty thirty whatever, Robinson gonna get his.

828
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: But he's the only one that could really break somebody

829
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: down and make it work and make it happen. So

830
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: I think you gotta let him go do what he

831
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: needs to do in the confinement of the offense. But

832
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: you gotta stay healthy. That's the That's the first and

833
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: main thing. Them guys are not healthy. You know, uh,

834
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: you know Jimmy out because of personal reasons. You know

835
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that that's something that you can't get through. But you know,

836
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: ain't go hear finger their back here, this and that. Here,

837
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: they go to the play pay.

838
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: Like if they had to go to the play suit up,

839
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: they had to go to the play pan.

840
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: Now suit up wouldn't be missing no games then one

841
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: foot Yeah, you'd be out there one defensive slide your

842
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: ass off. But but you know, I like I always

843
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: like the Miami. I like how they played. They sometimes

844
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: they play too unselfishly. I want I just want some

845
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: guys to play a little bit selfish.

846
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 6: A couple of rapid fire questions Dallas, where they're at

847
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 6: obviously juniors over there, Luca Kyrie, they got the trade

848
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 6: with PJ. Washington, brought the big in, Derek Live played

849
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 6: great Gafford. Who's I think he's really underrated? What do

850
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: you think where you see them at? And what is

851
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: the season Obviously All Star break, coming to in here

852
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 6: and going forward.

853
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Great two pick great two pickups, pickups, great two pickups.

854
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: You got two athletic bigs that you can switch off

855
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: and play good defense and don't miss a beat. I'm

856
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, Luca bad boy. Bad boy plays

857
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: at his own beat. I watched him. When you you

858
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: watch him on TV, it's different. But when you watch

859
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: this motherfucker person, I mean, what he does and how

860
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: he does it, you be like, damn, he's brilliant out

861
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: there on that court, making shots, going to the whole stop.

862
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: I never seen a guy that just stops and then

863
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: goes up and dust. And you know, I'm a study

864
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: of the game. I just want them. I need for

865
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: Luca to stop dribbling the ball, you know, stop being

866
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: ball dominant. But that's his game. You got to know

867
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: how to beat ball dominant. But you gotta know how

868
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: to run offense. Run offense for some guys that need

869
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: offense ran for them. Kyrie don't need offense ran for

870
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: him ever. But you know somebody like my son, you

871
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: need a floppy for him, Yes, a couple of pinned

872
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: downs for him. You need to get him involved in

873
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: the game. So it can make it easier for you

874
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: because if you got somebody like you, Mike, I'm standing in.

875
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: You stand in the corner for eight minutes. You just

876
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: run up and down the court and you stand in

877
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: the corner for eight minutes, and then they pass you

878
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: the ball. You got a wide open jump shot. You're

879
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: not gonna make it. You're not gonna You're not in. Really,

880
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: you haven't even touched the ball. You haven't touched the

881
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: ball to take the ball out of bounds for eight minutes.

882
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: If you you saying that that that you need some

883
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: of your guys to come in and flourish and to

884
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: have it easy on Luke and Kyrie, run offense, get

885
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: other people involved, you go still get your thirty yes.

886
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: But then they gonna really talk about you an MVP

887
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: conversation because them not talking about him is because they

888
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: record is not up there.

889
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 6: So you talked about two great point guard, Sorry, you

890
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 6: talk about two great point guards, Luke and Kyrie. Who's

891
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 6: your best point guard of all time? Who you think

892
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 6: is the greatest point guard of all time?

893
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: Magic? I like that. I'm gonna take it over. And

894
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: my guy, my mentor why my idol is Isaiah Thomas.

895
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: But who oh, Magic man, I mean, I mean magic

896
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: at what at five? I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean,

897
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: but Zeke was a bad boy, But yeah, Magic.

898
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna touch on the thing that you said with

899
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: Dallas and Luca. It's also to me it goes back

900
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: to basketball IQ, and not Luca's basketball IQ, but the

901
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: other guys on the court when I'm on the basketball court.

902
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: And then you say, for instance, you got Luca bringing

903
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: the ball down on the left side and I got

904
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: Little Timmy running the right wing as a big already

905
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: know I'm getting this motherfucker on the pen down right.

906
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 3: We don't have you don't have to call it. You

907
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: don't have to say nothing, Little Timmy. I'm getting you

908
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: on the pin down coming down on transition. If Luca

909
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: coming up that left side and I'm running the middle

910
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: and you on the right side, I'm gonna break that

911
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: shit off and I'm gonna get you a pin down

912
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: to come to the top of the key.

913
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: That don't need to be a play call, no, And

914
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said the.

915
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: Basketball IQ obviously is something that obviously needs to work

916
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: in Timmy's favor because we don't have to call a

917
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: player to know and transit. That's probably the best shot

918
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna get. The big is gonna be sagging back.

919
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: Motherfucker's already jogged back anyway. I got you on a

920
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: quick pin down. He's lazy as hell. You come up

921
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: for get a shot up. We don't even have to

922
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: run nothing.

923
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that's a great analogy because if

924
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: you look at Duncan, yes, we do it all the time.

925
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: We don't have to run and play. And I'm and

926
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: I won't even go further back when Mike Miller came

927
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: into the game. When he came to the game, that's

928
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: all y'all focused on getting this guy open. That's I'm

929
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: looking for him at open jump shots, threes, he's gonna

930
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: make Looking for him, he's gonna make us. And when

931
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: you have your best shooter on the court, Tim is

932
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: their best shooter on the court. They we gotta be

933
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: hunting for him, and they don't hunt for him. Everything

934
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: is going to Luca Kyrie. You gotta get other people

935
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: involved in other people open to make it easier for them,

936
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: because say say if they because they know the only

937
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: thing we gotta do is concentrat on Luca and Kyrie.

938
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: That's they know that. But if we got to concentrate

939
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: on these other guys, yes, then Luke and Kyrie, you

940
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: got these other guys on the island which they normally have,

941
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: and then make it easy for them, like like like

942
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: you like, I look at y'all with Duncan Hero, y'all

943
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: trying to get them guys open all the time, Streops,

944
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: you trying to get that gas.

945
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 3: If we're coming down in transition and being running the

946
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: middle of the painting, he got dunk in, or we're

947
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: breaking that shit off into a whi.

948
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: But you're breaking that shit off into a whi. We

949
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: bringing Duncan and Max off that wid But but then again,

950
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: your coaches have to instell it into your team and

951
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: show the team on film when you talk to them

952
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 1: and let them know, look, maybe just maybe we don't

953
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: want it pick and roll. Maybe we need to get

954
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Tim open. He cameing in. You know, that's gonna make

955
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: it easy. Let's get him rolling. Then guess what two

956
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: guys come to you. You slip most guys, you know.

957
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: But that's what the coaches got to do, and that's

958
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: what the team has to understand that. And like you said,

959
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: that's basketball.

960
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: Most motherfuckers use transition defense as a time to rest. Yeah, oh,

961
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: nobody has a body on now, that's the perfect time

962
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: to break it off as a big instead of why

963
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 3: and pin down for texture.

964
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 6: And yeah, for sure. So a couple of fan questions.

965
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 6: Favorite heat memory.

966
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh, Game seven, New York Knicks thirty seven asked stun,

967
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: which one is that? Bust the ass? Game seven? You

968
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: know what gave me hype? I tell you this, what

969
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: gat me hype? Driving to the uh driving to the arena? Yeah,

970
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: it's Arena Orena, my son said, Dad, like, yeah, I

971
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: know you like to listen to your music. You'd like

972
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: to get you know, your stuff and all this and

973
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: all that. I got a question. I'm like, hell fuck,

974
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: he got to say. He turned down. He said, what's

975
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: the crossover? I had to take off my what's the

976
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: You never seen the cross?

977
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: Soold?

978
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: He said, no. I said, because you back there playing

979
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: with the games back in the bag in the game room,

980
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: and this and that and this, and I said, listen,

981
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: you gotta stay in your seat. I don't know when

982
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna come, but you gotta stay. You cannot go

983
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: back there. You can't go get a hot dog and halftime,

984
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: you gotta go get water, you know, use the bathroom,

985
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: nor hold into halftime. Whatever I tell you. Man, the

986
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: second fucking player of the game, we get it, Steal.

987
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking nothing except I hope he's in his

988
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: seat because it's coming, because it's about to happen right now.

989
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: It's about to happen right now. I said, I just

990
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: hope he in his seat. And when I did it,

991
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: I laid it up and I pointed to him and

992
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: I saw him and he was like he was jumping

993
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: up and down. He's like yeah, yeah, yeah. And I

994
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, that's the crossover. But but

995
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't know when it was coming.

996
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: But when we get that still, I was like, you

997
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: know how you like, Okay, when I'm gonna do it,

998
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: the only thing I'm thinking of, I hope he's in

999
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: it's going down right now to see this. This is

1000
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: happening right now.

1001
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just wanted to crossover because, like I

1002
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: don't know if you know this, but like the Killer Crossover,

1003
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 3: you've changed, like you changed the game, like that ship

1004
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: was everybody was trying to do the Killer Cross and

1005
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: everybody wanted that you know, everybody wanted that, like for

1006
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: the culture you was in rap song.

1007
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: People talk about that ship in rap song. So it's everywhere.

1008
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I watched the game, and

1009
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't know because I'm not having my phone down

1010
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: and taking pictures of TV or anything like that. James

1011
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Harden does it, uh but he goes from from uh

1012
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: left I mean right to left with he does the

1013
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: same move that I used to do. He does it

1014
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: this way and going to his left hand. What's my

1015
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: man at Cleveland Donovan Mitchell? Yeah, Mitch you he does

1016
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: it and gets open. I've seen uh at times. Curry

1017
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: does it, you know. So I see little Bitch and

1018
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: guys doing it, but they don't even know that they

1019
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: doing it. And a lot of people don't even know

1020
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: that that's my crossolver, but they doing my cross because

1021
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: I know that the coaches on their team is teaching

1022
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: them that the crossover. So I'll be I'll be watching it,

1023
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: but I can't get it because I wish i'd get

1024
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: it all the time. I should have click, you know

1025
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: when about the click you know whatever, But I don't, so,

1026
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: but I see it all the time. They do they

1027
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: do my crossover all the time. That was big for

1028
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: the coach.

1029
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 6: Another another Heat fan question, would this is a pretty

1030
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 6: interesting one. Would you like to see your son in

1031
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 6: the Heat jersey? Do you think it happens before he retires.

1032
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get him in the Heat jersey

1033
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: and he will not be wearing my number. If he

1034
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: gets on the Heat team, he will not be wearing

1035
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: my number. Do you understand me? That number is never

1036
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: coming down. You are not going to wear my jersey.

1037
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: I agree, See how I walk now it hurts. That's

1038
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: why my jersey. You are not going to wear my jersey.

1039
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: Then my wife be like, well why not, because he's

1040
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: not that's my ship.

1041
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: I agree based on the fact that my ship up

1042
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: there to my ship ain't coming down.

1043
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, my ship ain't coming now. Yeah, well you know no,

1044
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: you might. You might do something to jeopardize that ship.

1045
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna put it back, Yeah, you know, you know

1046
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: it's it's always it's always that. It's always that. Now,

1047
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: don't don't think that. You know, I'm not thinking it's

1048
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: always that. I'm not saying I just said it now.

1049
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, in the back of my mind, you're fucking

1050
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: up my ship. I'm not gonna have you. Let you

1051
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: have that. I agree. No, I agree.

1052
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: Now another question that I got another answer to it.

1053
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: Do you still hate the Knicks?

1054
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Wow? You know what I'm gonna tell y'all something. Man,

1055
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot of a lot of guys don't talk.

1056
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: We we if we see each other. It takes us

1057
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: a lot to walk up to each other like me

1058
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: and John Starts or or let me tell you we

1059
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: beat we beat we beat them in game seven. Me

1060
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: and it's quarterback name uh, the one PG had to

1061
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: fight with. I forget. It's Charlie Ward. We go on

1062
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: a Nike tour and and in China, we're on the

1063
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: same bus. Everybody speak to everybody. We did not look

1064
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: at each other. We did not say nothing neat We

1065
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: ain't do nothing. I said, you know what, I said,

1066
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: this is fucking ridiculous. After everybody got off the bus

1067
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: and said, hold on, Charlie, this is fucking ridiculous.

1068
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 4: Man.

1069
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Speaker 1: I understand. You know we don't like each other. I understand,

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: I said, but that's while we're playing the game. What

1071
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: we got to Jersey. We here, we're supposed to have

1072
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: a good time. We can't look at each other. In

1073
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: that I and just say what's up or good morning?

1074
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, I don't know about you.

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00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: But I had a problem with that because I'm not

1076
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: that type of person. I like to say, I'm very cordial,

1077
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm very respectful. If I see them, good morning, good morning,

1078
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: that's the way I am. But that that just seemed

1079
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: awkward to me. And so yeah, it's hard. It's hard.

1080
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean I don't like I like them, I don't

1081
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: dislike them or anything like that. That was then, But

1082
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: it's still some animosity right now to this day, no question. Hey,

1083
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: I agree. Serious, it's still I chose it takes it.

1084
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: I chose each other. It takes a minute to walk.

1085
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: We might walk around each other for a couple of

1086
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: minutes or whatever before we get the courage to say hello.

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00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 4: Seriously, last bad questions.

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00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: That's real ship. I mean it goes on both Wait,

1089
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's not just my way. I want to

1090
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: go up there and say loo. But when you see

1091
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: a person you know, trying to like, you could tell, yeah,

1092
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: you could tell like, okay, well I'm not I'm just

1093
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: walk around.

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah all time? Heat starty five.

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01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, Tim hard away for sure. Uh Dwayne Wade

1096
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh of course you gotta put Lebron in there. Sure,

1097
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: and then you gotta puts. I can't go nowhere without

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01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: my buddy, So for sure, there's man. You go.

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01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: Shack five, I.

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01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, Shack played with the heat one and a half, two.

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01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 4: More than that?

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01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I think what three or four before? Okay, Shack,

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: it's good. Yeah team now yeah loaded.

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01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question with the U tap

1105
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 3: two steps to kill a crossover and all that ship

1106
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 3: real quick. If your time was different, you think you

1107
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 3: would have the same impact today? I think I think

1108
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: it'd be better. I'm I think you would be more

1109
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: because it's easier to play defense. But let's defense.

1110
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: But you gotta understand, I would have grew up differently.

1111
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 1: You see, see how I grew up. It made me

1112
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: become who I am. I get it. And if I

1113
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: would have grew up in this era, I don't know

1114
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: that this era would have made me. You would too,

1115
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: personally like exactly. So so you're talking about my skills, yes,

1116
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: but you're talking about I don't know if I would

1117
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: have had the same skills because I was We would

1118
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: have been brought up differently. You might have had a

1119
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: different mentality, have different mentality. That's a good point, you know,

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't don't realize that these

1121
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: these guys today grew up differently. The world is different.

1122
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: We didn't have social media. We had we didn't have

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, they had guns, but we didn't have no

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: way to do. It was like this, all right, let's go,

1125
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: you like, and then there form a circle around you,

1126
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: somebody getting knocked out, and then they'll brush you off

1127
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: and let's let's go keep going. You know that. I

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01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: mean that's the way it was. Gangs, Yes, you know,

1129
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: I grew up with gangs and drugs and all that

1130
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: type of stuff. I had to run away from gangs.

1131
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: I had to fight my way away from stuff. You know.

1132
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Like I said, the way we brought up our kids

1133
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: today and the way people bring up their kids today

1134
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: is totally different than how we was brought up. And

1135
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, I I I will say my

1136
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: game would be different. It wouldn't. I don't think it

1137
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: would be like that because the way I grew up.

1138
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 6: So since we got the UTAB two step the Killer

1139
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 6: Crossover in the building, this next segment by Prize picks

1140
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 6: its top five in today's game.

1141
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 4: Handles. Oh, all right, I'm going Kyrie.

1142
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 6: LaMelo Ball, James Harden, John Rant and Paul George.

1143
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: Oh, Paul George. I like that.

1144
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 4: Who you got when I'm missing?

1145
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what, I'm gonna go, Carrie Irving, Steph Curry.

1146
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 4: Steph's up there.

1147
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm won't I'm gonna even

1148
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: go want Luca Donchis. He got nice doest handled now,

1149
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: got nice handle.

1150
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just not doesn't look like the rest of

1151
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 4: the guy. But he's got to do what he does.

1152
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: You cannot stay in front of this guy. Nobody I

1153
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: seen he can put you on ice skates. He could do.

1154
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: He got a lot of ship like that. James Harden,

1155
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: of course, James Harden. Ah who else? Uh, you know

1156
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: what I'm want. I'm man, I'm gonna go my man.

1157
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: And for the Delfia point guard. He got a nice handle,

1158
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: he got a nice hold up. You know I won't go.

1159
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm Jayleen Bronson. I like Jaylen under control, all nice hand,

1160
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: he got all that ship. Ain't watching he got all

1161
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: that like I'll be watching me. I mean fact, you

1162
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: know that he got all that you got all that.

1163
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 6: Man, we appreciate you coming in. You're a real o

1164
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 6: G for real than man. Everything you do for this

1165
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 6: game and where we're at now. Man, we appreciate you

1166
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 6: coming in and spend some time with us.

1167
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: Y'all doing y'all doing a fabulous job saying y'all, y'all

1168
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: you know what y'all don't know how fast y'all growing.

1169
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, y'all growing real real, real, real fast. You know.

1170
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: It's a tribute to you all understanding the game, understanding people,

1171
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: knowing what you're talking about, and how to deliver it.

1172
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: So kudos to you all and continue success.

1173
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: I want to personally thank you obviously, but you know

1174
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: the impact that you had on me before the cameras

1175
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: was even cut on, before the lights was on. People

1176
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: don't know. You used to come to Miami High and

1177
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: play pick up with us. You used to bring a

1178
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: little Timmy over there, you know what I'm saying, and

1179
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: play pick up with us. So you really showed love

1180
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: to the hood and the people in the city, you

1181
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And you embraced us kids out

1182
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 3: of high school that wasn't even on your level. But

1183
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: when we wasn't doing something right. Hey, man, cut that

1184
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: shit out right way past them, like you know what

1185
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you made us feel you know what

1186
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like we was even though we weren't on

1187
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 3: your level. You made us feel like somebody cared, you

1188
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, just coming hoop with us. So

1189
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 3: that one went a long way. And two watching you,

1190
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 3: you know, with your jersey go up for the heat

1191
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: and what you meant to the Miami heat. And then

1192
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: watch you in this next phase of your career did

1193
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: you venture in a couple of different things. I watched

1194
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 3: it all on fold, you know what I'm saying. So

1195
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: I appreciate you for that. You know what I'm saying,

1196
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: because once again, how often do you see somebody that

1197
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 3: comes in the hood and plays basketball with the kids

1198
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: and he ain't even from there, right, It's easy for

1199
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 3: you to do that in Chicago. You did that shit

1200
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 3: in Miami.

1201
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: I just love the game, you know what I'm saying.

1202
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 3: And that was big. That was big man the city.

1203
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: I always love you for that. We appreciate you. So

1204
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 3: I appreciate you for the example you said for me man,

1205
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: and not just as an og but you as a

1206
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: kid in the city coming up and trying to make

1207
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: it somewhere and just do something with theirselfs man.

1208
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: So thank you, OG. I appreciate that. Thank you, and

1209
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: y'all turn into The Carton Show FS one March fourth.

1210
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm back on Oh yeah, you heard that. Tune in.

1211
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: Tune in, tune in, but we appreciate you. OG's watching

1212
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: with the real O G.

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 6: We're out tune in Tuesday.