1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: With a sixty six pick in the twenty twenty one 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, Minnesota Vikings select jelling Man quarterback Texas l 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Do you have your backup quarterbacks sort of mimic your 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks? I think in some cases it works, but 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I think also sort of like bringing in the relief 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: picture that throws something else well. Hello Vikings fans, and 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: welcome to episode number ninety two of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: Following rounds two and three of the twenty twenty one 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. It was a very very eventful night for 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: your Minnesota Vikings as four players were selected on night 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: two of the draft. And thank you to our good 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: friends at High Vie for being here with the Minnesota 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Vikings Podcast all weekend long. They will bring you quite 14 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: the guests. On today's show, we have former Vikings linebacker 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: and member of the Vikings Entertainment Network Ben Lieber, as 16 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: well as Vikings dot com staff writer and associate editor 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: Lindsay Young. Really good content coming up in the show. 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Ben brings you all the x's and oh's of all 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: four members of the Vikings draft class tonight, and Lindsay 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: who was at every single press conference with all four 21 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: players brings everything you need to know that happened there. 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: So with that I bring in the man behind the 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings podcast. It is Vikings dot COM's producer, Jay Nelson. 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: What's going on? Jay? It was a very eventful night 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: the Vikings. It looked like they were going to trade 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: up early in the draft. Rick Spielman kind of teat 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: us up after night one saying, we have a lot 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: of picks tonight and there's a good chance we're gonna 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: trade up to the second round. That did not happen. 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: We waited until pick six six to draft a quarterback. 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: So really interesting night for the Vikings tonight. Yeah. I 32 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: think the thing for them was they were monitoring and 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: looking at some of these different groups, probably the ones 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: that seemed like the talent was a little thinner, just 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: given the amount of talent that is out there this year. 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: They had already talked about that going into the pre 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: draft press conference, saying that there are certain groups that 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: they had identified that they knew that once a run 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: would start, they needed to jump into the fray if 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: they really needed to get something. And so it kind 41 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: of felt like we were all watching and waiting to 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: see if they were going to make a move and 43 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: jump into round two. But what was really interesting was 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks didn't start to fall off until Trask fell 45 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: off there at the end of the second round, when 46 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Tampa finally jumped up and grabbed him and they're going 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: to see if maybe he's the air apparent to Tom Brady. 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: So it once that hit and then Jacksonville didn't take 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I think they looked at it and said 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: this is where it's going to go, and that's when 51 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: they pounced and jumped on Kellen Mond at number sixty six. 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: So and then there were three quarterbacks taken within four 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: picks at that point, so they just the timing was right. 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: They were super patient. There were a lot of players 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: that a lot of fans on Twitter and social media 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: were really getting angsty about that. We're going saying, why 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: aren't the Vikings doing anything, And it just felt like 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: they had kind of identified some different players to fall 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: and once they did, they just they were patient and patient, patient, 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: and it seems like they were able to grab the 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: players that they needed at the positions they wanted. I agree, man, 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I feel like quarterback might have been the position that 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: they were looking at. First, because there wasn't one taken 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: until pick sixty four on Night two, when the Tampa 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers selected Kyle Trask. But I want to talk 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: about what happened before that before we get into our 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: guests on tonight's show. There were twelve trades made up 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: and down by teams that were trading around in the draft, 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: and not one of them were our Vikings. As I 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: said before, But how crazy was that for Night two, 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: for so much movement to have been right in front 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: of the Vikings sixty six pick while there were six picks, 73 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: six trades that happened in the first eleven selections of 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: the second round, so like half and then behind that 75 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: there were still another five transactions or five five positions 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: that down this hell I can't keep up, so like 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: on our format here, I color code it and it 78 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: just looks like a giant highlighter just exploded all over 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: the dang thing. Because what was really crazy was you 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: even in the fourth round, you saw there was a 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland trade with Carolina, who then flipped that and traded 82 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: the pick right away back to Houston. So there was 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: just a ton of movement that happened here, and I 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: think It just spoke to the fact that there were 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: certain teams that were looking for certain certain positions and 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: certain top tier talent, and everyone felt like, Man, I 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: gotta start leapfrogging some of these teams because if I don't, 88 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss out. So it was it was really 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: interesting just to see how it all fell out tonight 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: and to see the amount of action that happened, and 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: so for us to be willing to wait till the 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: third and still feel like we got a bunch of 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: the guys that we wanted was very fortuitous for our 94 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: front office. It seems like we got a bunch of 95 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: the guys we wanted. As you said, Jay, with a 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: sixty six pick, we get our quarterback in Kellen Mond 97 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: from Texas A and M, one of the top dual 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: threat players and one of the best players in Texas 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: A and M school history with ninety three total touchdowns. 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: That's a franchise record tied with Johnny Manzell. I'm going 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: to run through the picks here really quick before we 102 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: get to our guests, who literally break down every single pick. 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: And then with a seventy eighth pick, the Vikings selected 104 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: a linebacker at a North Carolina. His name is Chaz Sarat. 105 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: He was actually a quarterback starting his career there with 106 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the Tar Heels and became a linebacker. Definitely an interesting 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: pick at number seventy eight and then number eighty six, 108 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: the Vikings select a much needed position. It is the 109 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: guard position and it's from a big time school in 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Whyatt Davis the six for three, fifteen pound guard. 111 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Really big player for the Vikings to get at the 112 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: eighty six pick. And finally, the fourth pick of the 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: night was the ninetieth overall pick. The Vikings get their 114 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: edge rusher for defensive coordinator Andre Patterson. It's Patrick Jones, 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: the second out of the University of Pittsburgh. Maybe a 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Chris Doman in the future, you never know, Jay. But 117 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: with that, make sure to maximize your draft weekend and 118 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: shopping experience by earning fuel savings, exclusive monthly deals, free 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: grocery delivery, two hour express pickup, and your very own 120 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: personal shopper. Sign up for high V Plus membership today 121 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: at hive dot com. Thank you to hi V for 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: being with us all weekend long right here on the 123 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings Podcast. All right, let's bring in our two 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: guests of the night. All right, well, thank you to 125 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: our friends at High ve for being with us all 126 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: weekend long on the Minnesota Kings podcast, and thank you 127 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: to them for bringing in former linebacker and of course, 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: member of the ven, Ben Leeber and Vikings dot COM's 129 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: staff writer Lindsay Young. It's it's a great crew to 130 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: have here to cover a very eventful night. Night two 131 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft for the Minnesota Vikings a very 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: busy night because a lot of players were selected at 133 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: very interesting positions and it all started with no trade 134 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: being made in the second round. The Vikings did not 135 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: trade up into the second round despite having the four 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: third round draft picks. And Ben, it's really interesting to 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: me because Rick Spielman kind of teat us up yesterday 138 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: saying we're going to trade up into the second round 139 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: or try to trade up to the second round. So 140 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: what were your thoughts when no trades were made and 141 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: we wait until pick sixty six to make our first 142 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: draft pick. The boyd that we had the second round 143 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: of like that was going to drive the bus right, 144 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: that that whole in the second round was going to 145 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: sort of decide and show the way for the first round. 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: So it made sense to me that there would be 147 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: a trade down, an acquisition of draft equity to try 148 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: to get back in the second round. And when we 149 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: talked to him or after the draft last night on 150 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: KFA N, he very much intimated that they were going 151 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: to get back in the second round and that's the plan, 152 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, we just needed to hear it 153 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: from his mouth and then to have it not happen, 154 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's surprising. But at the same time, whenever 155 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: you go in with that plan, you have to think, well, 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: it takes two to tango. Everybody in the NFL knows 157 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: that round two picks our Day one starters most of 158 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: the time, so it's still very valuable for all these 159 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: guys to keep their second round picks. And you have 160 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: to prepare yourself for the possibility that nobody's going to 161 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: dance with you, even though you might want to get 162 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: back in the second round. And there was absolutely no 163 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: quarterback taken until a few picks before the Vikings. The 164 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers go and take Florida quarterback Kyle Trask, 165 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's when you start to think maybe the Vikings 166 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: might be taking a quarterback at the sixty six overall pick, 167 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: and that's what happened. It's dual threat quarterback Kellen Mond 168 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: at A Texas A and M. So before I go 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: to Lindsay, who was at the press conference with Kellen Mond, 170 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Ben, what are your overall 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on this move. I know from my time with 172 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings, I've been with the team since twenty fifteen, 173 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: we've drafted one quarterback and that's I was Nate Stanley. 174 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: So when you draft a player of this magnitude, it's 175 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: certainly surprising, and it's a flashy move on my end. 176 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: You know, I had actually prepared myself getting the draft 177 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: that this could happen, Even before we acquired the extra 178 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: third round picks. I actually thought that we'd use one 179 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: of the third round picks on a quarterback. And I 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: thought it made a sense. I like the idea of 181 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: having a younger rusher backup quarterback. And I know that 182 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: we had Nate Stanley from last year, but there's this 183 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: philosophy in my mind that do you have your backup 184 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: quarterback sort of mimic your starting quarterback. I think in 185 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: some cases it works, but I think also it's sort 186 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: of it's sort of like bringing in the relief pitcher 187 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: that throws something else, you know, that has a little 188 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: bit of a dynamic, you know, rotation of pitches at 189 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: the difference than the starter, and that throws off the 190 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: batting order. So I think having a guy that can 191 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: move around a little bit more, a little bit more athletic, 192 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: um having a guy like Kirk kind of teach him 193 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: the ways of quarterbacking M. I actually didn't. I don't 194 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: mind the pick at all. And you look at his 195 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: his career to S and M. He's well coached there 196 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: by Jimbo Fisher, who who's had a number of great 197 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks under his tutelage, and he continues to get better 198 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: and better and better. He said, the interceptions go down 199 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: and down and down, and you know, I just think 200 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: that he's got a high ceiling and he's going to 201 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: keep progressing. A baseball guy that I am really appreciates 202 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: that reliever analogy that you made there, Ben So. But 203 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Lindsay was at the press conference right after Kellen Mond 204 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: was selected. So what is your overall takeaway from hearing 205 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: him speak. I believe he had a lot of confidence 206 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: saying that he's been ready for this moment since he 207 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: was like two years old. Yeah, he did have a 208 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: lot of confidence, which I liked. But then on the 209 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: flip side, he also seemed, you know, very aware of 210 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: the situation that he's coming into with Minnesota, that they 211 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: obviously have an established starter with Kirk Cousins, and I think, 212 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, he was excited to be able to learn 213 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: from Kirk, and he mentioned the conversations that he's already 214 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: had with Clint Kubiak, and he even noted to like 215 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: being able to learn from some of the veteran receivers 216 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: that are on the team and just things that they've 217 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: seen and learned. And you know, he did talk to 218 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: about just the ways that he's improved and grown under 219 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: coach Fisher. And so I think Ben's point of having 220 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: a high sealing that's what is so exciting about the 221 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: pick to me, because there's been like such tremendous growth 222 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: over the past four years, and so you know kind 223 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: of what's next for him. You know, I see a 224 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: raw player, and I see a player that played a 225 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: lot of games as a true freshman. He played in 226 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: eleven games, wasn't as successful earlier on in his career 227 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: with Texas A and M. But then when you look 228 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: at the film, I'm sure you've studied this guy and 229 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: seeing what he can do as a dual threat quarterback. 230 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: What are his strengths and what do you think he 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: can really build on to become and reach that ceiling 232 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: that everyone says that that is not even there for him, 233 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: that they're saying that he is a player with really 234 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: no ceiling when it comes to what he can do 235 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: from an from an athlete standpoint. Well, you mentioned the 236 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: athlete standpoint. The thing that I recognize going to back 237 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: to watch you know, the season two years ago versus 238 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: just his last season that you saw his ability to 239 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: contain his athleticism and want to be more of a quarterback. 240 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: You can see him. You can actually watch him trying 241 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: to be more of a pocket quarterback from two years 242 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: ago versus last year, and you can almost see how 243 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: the coaching is coming out of him as he goes 244 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: out there on Saturdays, that he's keeping himself in the pocket. 245 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: He's trying not to break out of the pocket. He's 246 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: trying to slide around him feel the pressure as opposed 247 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: to just tucking the ball and using his God given 248 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: talents to run down the field. And so that's that's 249 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: the part that I think is exciting is you're you're 250 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: actually watching this guy from season to season go from hey, 251 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm a really fast guy that's athletic, that can run 252 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: past people. I can be productive, but I'm also the 253 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: quarterback that I still have to learn how to be 254 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And he started to do that. So now 255 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: it's like, well where does he stop? You know, where 256 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: does you see the arm strength? You see his ability 257 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: at times to really anticipate. I think that's the one 258 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: thing that has to get better is he's a little 259 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: mechanical with his reads. You know. It's just like you 260 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: can see him drop back and he goes one, two, three, 261 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: and then he'll either flat around the pocket move. He's 262 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: just got to become a little bit quicker with that processing. 263 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: He can make every throw now he's just gotta trust it. Well, 264 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: he tied Johnny football Johnny Manzil with ninety three total 265 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: touchdowns at Texas A and M. That's that is the 266 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: record for the school there. So a pretty impressive career 267 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: that he was able to put together at such a 268 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: young age, playing so many games there. The next pick 269 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: for the Vikings was the seventy eighth overall pick, and 270 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: just as we thought the previous pick was a surprising one, 271 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: I think this one shocked a lot of people. It 272 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: shocked the analyst on the national broadcast. It was a 273 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: quarterback on a wait, a linebacker who was a quarterback 274 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: and that's Chaz Serette out of North Carolina. Lindsay, you 275 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: were at his press conference as well. What were overall 276 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: takeaways from from how he was, how he addressed the media, 277 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: and what he brings to the table for the Vikings defense. Yeah, 278 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: I thought I was impressed by him. Honestly, I wasn't 279 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: familiar with him going into the press conference, wasn't really 280 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: sure what to expect. But he also showed a lot 281 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: of excitement, a lot of confidence. He was very polite 282 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: and just I think, just happy to speak with the 283 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: media and to just kind of share why he's a 284 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: good fit for the Vikings. He talked about, you know, 285 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: watching Anthony Barr and Eric Kendrickson, being excited to play 286 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: with them. And you can tell that he's a big 287 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: family guy too. His brother's sage is also in the draft, 288 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: and he made a comment like this weekend isn't isn't 289 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: done until we're both drafted, and you could tell that, 290 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, just being there with his family and celebrating 291 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: was really you know a special time for him. But yeah, 292 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: I just I came away from it like kind of 293 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: wanting to know more about him and just feeling impressed 294 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: by how he carried himself and definitely his excitement for 295 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: being part of this defense. Well, he's six two in 296 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: two twenty nine. And Ben, I mean you were a linebacker. 297 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Did you play quarterback when you were a young tyler 298 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: coming up for a while? No, man, I in our 299 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: in our high school, the glory position was running back, 300 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: so that's where I wanted to be. That the quarterback 301 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: was just the messenger to hand off the ball to 302 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: the Yeah, yeah, we need I think we threw the 303 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: ball like four times a game so that the quarterback 304 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: because this was not the position you want to play 305 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: in our high school system. But you know, um, you know, 306 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: to Lindsay's point, I have a friend that that has 307 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: worked with him in the media side, um in North Carolina, 308 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: and and she was telling me tonight that you're not 309 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: going to find a better human being. And I know 310 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: that that doesn't mean much when it comes to, you know, 311 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: a third round draft pick in the NFL. I mean, 312 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: the fans want to care about what is he like 313 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: a player? But I'll tell you this much that he 314 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: has so much respect from everybody down there, just from 315 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: the way he carries himself. You're never gonna you're never 316 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about him off the field. He's 317 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a tremendous leader of the guys in locker room. 318 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: And like Lindsay's saying, like, you know, he's got a 319 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: really cool story with his brother. I believe it is 320 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: only fourteen months apart, so they're very very close. Um. 321 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: But as a player, you know, you have to respect 322 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: the fact that not a lot of guys can make 323 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: that switch from quarterback to linebacker. You know, we see 324 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: quarterback to safety a lot, and it usually works out 325 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: pretty well because they understand space and they understand what 326 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback is looking at. But at the safety position, 327 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: compared to a linebacker, you don't have to have that 328 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: level toughness that linebackers have to have. And for him 329 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: to make that transition play at a high level, still 330 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: learn still still learning the game, you know, still you 331 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: know they're they're linebackers have been playing for twelve years 332 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: at that position, from from middle school and Pop Warner 333 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: all the way up to through college. That still don't 334 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: understand the nuance of the game. And you even get drafted, 335 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: So this guy has not played linebacker for very long. 336 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: He goes out and gets drapped in the third round. 337 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, as much respect as you 338 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: can give a player for his toughness, the way he's 339 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: adapted to play in a different position at a different 340 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I'm excited what this guy can 341 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: do because he's not afraid to blitz. He knows how 342 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: to get downhill and be disruptive. He does have to 343 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: learn how to cover guys a little bit better, but 344 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: he's got the athleticism and the toughness you're looking for. Yeah, 345 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: and when the Vikings lose a guy like Eric Wilson 346 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: in free agency to the Eagles, I definitely think that's 347 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: a spot that needs to be filled. And I know 348 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: Adam Zimmer likes those long and rangy type linebackers. He 349 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: found one in Troy die in last year's draft. I 350 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: think this is the same kind of player, a very 351 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: raw player that he can kind of bring in and 352 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: mold to become the kind of linebacker that he wants 353 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: within this Vikings defense. So on the next pick. There 354 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: were a lot of picks in the third round for 355 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: the Vikings. I mean, it was just pick after pick. 356 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm managing Vikings dot Com. I can't even keep up. 357 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: We're at the eighty sixth pick and guard Wyatt Davis 358 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: from Ohio State. I think that is a need that 359 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings fans want it addressed. Maybe earlier in this draft, 360 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: but I think when you get a guy from Ohio 361 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: State who blocked for one of the top offenses in 362 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: college football last year from a running standpoint and from 363 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: the quarterback standpoint, lindsay, I think this really was a 364 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: was a need that the Vikings addressed, and they did 365 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: it late in the draft and got a player of 366 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: a high caliber from a big school. Yeah. I mean, 367 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he turns out to be the steal 368 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: that it feels like he could be. You know, I 369 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: think you make a really good point just about the 370 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: offense that he was a part of, and the point 371 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: of the third round where we were able to get him, 372 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: I think is a huge win. I kind of caught 373 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: the beginning part of his press conference. And the thing 374 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: that I liked is not only his confidence in playing, 375 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: but that he said that he feels extremely confident playing 376 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: on either side, which I think is always a good 377 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: thing because we know that when they when these guys 378 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: get into training camp and things like that, they'll probably 379 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: try guys out at different spot or different you know, 380 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: side right versus left and kind of see how they 381 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: work out together. And so kind of his you know, 382 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: open mindus and just wanting to come and do whatever 383 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: he's asked was cool to see. And he had a 384 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: lot of energy to just high energy again, excited to 385 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: be here. So I think it's definitely a win. Like 386 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: you said, it's a need and just adds more depth 387 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: to that group six four three fifteen, I mean block 388 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: for Justin fields. Last year, they didn't lose a lot 389 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: of games in his time with the team. I think 390 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: it was only two games that they lost. What do 391 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: you see there, Ben, Because I saw that you tweeted 392 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: that Rick Spielman stayed patient but he got a big 393 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: time player and whyatt Davis? So what have you seen 394 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: from him on film that made you kind of think 395 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: that they kind of got to steal later on in 396 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: this draft. And why at Davis, Well, you know who knows, 397 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: with all the with all the expert guys, with all 398 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the rankings, what they really really know. But that's what 399 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: the public is going to go off of. And Wyatt 400 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: Davis was a guy that was on the top of 401 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: the best available of all positions for a while in 402 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: the draft, and a lot of people thought that, you know, 403 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: he had some medicals, but when it comes down to 404 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: his ability to play football and play that position, a 405 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that he was very very much 406 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: a high second round draft pick. And so to see 407 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: him keep falling, I know a lot of fans on 408 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: social media is saying, like, we need to get this guy. 409 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: I was even seeing we need to get this guy early. 410 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: And for him to be patient, it showed a lot 411 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: of strength and understanding of the draft and knowing the 412 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: value of these players and what the other teams in 413 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: front of them needed. He's like, no, I don't have 414 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: to pick him right now. You know, we can take 415 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: we can take the quarterback that we want, we can 416 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: take this athletic linebacker that we want, and we can 417 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: still get him at a later pick. And that's exactly 418 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: what happened, Whether that was luck or where that, whether 419 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: it was constructed like that, it did work out to 420 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: where you absolutely appease the fan base. You get Christian 421 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: Derissa in the first round, you address the right guard spot, 422 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: and that's exactly where why at Davis Place is that 423 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: right guard spot? That was a need and that was 424 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: a hole of phil So all of a sudden, now 425 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: in two days of the draft and you've got three 426 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: rounds of the draft completed, and you've solidified your offensive line. 427 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: And the other thing that I thought as interesting is 428 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: derissaus picked. To me, it triggered a shift in philosophical 429 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: thinking with this offensive line. We have always been since 430 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: we have had this zone running scheme. We want undersized, 431 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: we want fast, we want guys that can get to 432 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: the second level. And what happens what has been the 433 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: biggest thing for us when it comes to protecting Kirk. 434 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: We can't hold up against our own guys or division 435 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: on the defensive line of getting that inside push just 436 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: getting knocked off the line. Yeah, we might get up 437 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: to the second level in the run game, but we 438 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: can't stop anybody when they wanted his bull rush us 439 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: and get right into Kirk's lap. So what did we 440 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: do this year? We go out and get one of 441 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: the biggest, strongest guys at left tackle. He's not known 442 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: as a as a space guy that's going to run 443 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: around and get it to the second level. And then 444 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: you get a guy like White Davis as well, that's 445 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: a big bodiedmaller, strong, strong lower body, not known as 446 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: an athlete, and I like it. I like the fact 447 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: that we're beefing up our offensive line and we're actually 448 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: going to be the intimidators as opposed the ones that 449 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: have to have to punch. Second, I really miss talking 450 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: to you after each and every Vikings game on the 451 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: Vikings dot Com postgame report because I couldn't agree with 452 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: you anymore with what you just said when you when 453 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: you hear Mike Zimmers saying his press conference after Christian 454 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: darre saw that we literally just wanted a big man 455 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: and left tackle, a six to five player at that position. 456 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuffing that gets me excited because 457 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: that's what we're missing in the past, just in the 458 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: pass rushing game, when when you're trying to block for 459 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who obviously isn't as mobile as some of 460 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: the other some of the other quarterbacks out there, so 461 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: and they only did that on the offensive side, but 462 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: then they did it on the defensive side and free agency. 463 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, Ben, you were talking to those two guys 464 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: yesterday on the Miller Light Happy Hour. What was it 465 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: like seeing those two big guys being added to the 466 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: defensive line. Well, they take up the screen, I'll tell 467 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: you that much. Their little their little box was pretty 468 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: much filled up by their faces. So you know, it's 469 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: it's so funny to me that that and I know this, 470 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: and I should know better, but I look at those 471 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: two big men and you kind of think that they're 472 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: just going to be kind of rough and tumble and 473 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: mean and whatever. And you know, they they both have 474 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: these amazing smiles and they just seem so soft spoken. 475 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: And you're like, you're a killer on the field, like 476 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: you are. You pick up three hundred pound guys and 477 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: push them around, and you're just so stopped spoken and 478 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: you're so sweet. You know, I love the contract. It's like, Yeah, 479 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: We're talking to Andre Patterson on one of our shows 480 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: last week and he was like, yeah, they literally both 481 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: remind me of Lindvall and we wanted two of them 482 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: in the middle, so our linebackers can do what they're 483 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: doing next year, which will be a big thing for 484 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: the Vikings defense. But with that, let's get to the 485 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: last pick that was made on Day two of the 486 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: draft for the Minnesota Vikings. It was an edge rusher 487 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: to add to that group of on the defensive line. 488 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: It's Patrick Jones, the second out of Pittsburgh. And I 489 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: brought up Andre Patterson just a bit ago, and Andrea 490 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: literally said to us, he was like, I don't need 491 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: one of those first round edge rushers. I don't need 492 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: a second round edge rusher. I could find one in 493 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: the third or fourth round. I've shown I could do 494 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: it with the Neil Hunter and he and he literally 495 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: lets his actions do the talking as a coach. Which 496 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: how could you not love that, Ben, When a coach 497 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: has that much confidence to get a guy like Patrick Jones, 498 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: the second out of Pittsburgh, a smaller name guy, I've 499 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: never heard of him, to be honest with you, So 500 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about what he can bring 501 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: to this Vikings defensive line. Well, I mean, all you 502 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: gotta do is look at sort of like Denil Hunter 503 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: and DJ Wantam. I mean he's he's built, you know, 504 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: not quite as freakish as Denial, but he's got that size, 505 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: he's got that frame, and you can understand why with 506 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: those long arms and that quick getoff that they're like, okay, 507 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: we got a we got a big body guy that 508 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: that plays within himself as far as his strength goes, 509 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna get stronger. Um. He has he has natural 510 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: burst off the line. That's that's something that's as hard 511 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: to coach in the weight room. Either you either have 512 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: that instinct to get off the line in that quick 513 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: twitch or you don't. UM and he has that. And 514 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: and so you can see the prototype that Andrea Patterson 515 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: likes to work with. UM. Clearly there are some technique 516 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: things that he needs to work on, but I'm sure 517 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: he's salivating over all the measurables, all the intangibles that 518 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: he has. And he's right, you know. I know for 519 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: us as fans, we get enamored by some of the 520 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: bigger name guys, maybe the guys that have a little 521 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: bit more flashed to them. But when you've got a coach, 522 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: his high quality is Andre Patterson that says, you know, 523 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: go use your high round picks on guys that are 524 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: ready to go. Now, I trust in my system and 525 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: myself that I can take these guys that are a 526 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: little rough and polish them up and make them great players. 527 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: And so it's a great asset to have a guy 528 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: like Andrey scouting these guys. I think he's kind of 529 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: still he's kind of proven himself so much in those 530 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of mid round players. I think that he probably 531 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: won't ever get like a first or second round guy 532 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: because coaches can just rely on him to find kind 533 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: of those diamonds in the rough, you know. And I 534 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: mean even when you look even earlier than DJ and Neil, 535 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I know that that coach Dre did not draft Everson 536 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: or b Rob, but the fact that he worked with 537 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: them a little bit later in their careers and they 538 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: were both fourth round guys, and you know, got so 539 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: much more out of their game as well well. And 540 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: so I just I feel like anytime we draft a 541 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: defensive lineman wherever he's at, I'm excited to see what 542 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: coach Patterson can do with them. Ben, give us your 543 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: final thoughts on what is to come for the Vikings. 544 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: Still a lot of picks remaining, especially in the fourth 545 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: round coming up here. So what are you expecting for 546 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: the rest of this NFL draft? You know, I think 547 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: now you can't. You can obviously sort of take best available. 548 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: You filled the biggest holes that were needed on this team, 549 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: but I'd still like to see, um, you know, a 550 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver three, a slot wide receiver that has some returnability. Um, 551 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: let's see if he can he can compete with Osbourne, 552 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: if he's going to come back for a year or 553 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: two a better player and hopefully much improved and provide 554 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: some competition. Um, we need to find I think more 555 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: of a game chaining guide that number three position, a 556 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Obviously, you can never have enough corners, especially 557 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: with Mike zimmer as you as your head coach, and 558 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: and I think that safety position is an area of 559 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: need as well. So I would expect tomorrow for the 560 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: rest of this draft we focus a little bit on offense, 561 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: but I think it's mostly going to be defense. We 562 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: added so many players, and I'm counting we still have 563 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: six picks remaining, three fourth round picks, two fifth round picks, 564 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: and a sixth round picks. So lindsay, what are your 565 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: final thoughts on going what the Vikings are going to do? 566 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Going forward. I feel like I never know going into 567 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Day three. If I know, like, are those six picks 568 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: going to become ten by the end of tomorrow, I 569 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: just feel like I never can. I'm a very type 570 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: a person, but I learned to not be that way 571 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: during draft weekend because it's like every time I'm ready 572 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: to go for pay like it changes. Although that happened 573 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: tonight though, so I don't know what to expect. I 574 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: do kind of think we'll go heavier defense tomorrow. But 575 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: I'd also agree with Betton that I bet we would 576 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: pick up a receiver at some point. I mean, I'd 577 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: like to see us breaking in another receiver just to 578 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: add some competition to that group. So yeah, day three, 579 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: I feel like you never know what you're gonna get, 580 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: but I'm excited. Well, thank you again to our good 581 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: friends at high V for bringing us Ben Leeber and 582 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Lindsay Young from the Vikings Entertainment Network. Awesome stuff is always, guys, 583 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: and I look forward to day three. I mean, who 584 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: knows how many picks we'll have at the end of 585 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: this draft? All right, Jay, that was an awesome conversation 586 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: with Vikings dot COM's Ben Leeber, and of course, Lindsay Young. 587 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: They bring two very different perspectives and two very valuable 588 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: perspectives to the show. So a big thank you to 589 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: those guys for joining us on tonight's show. And with that, 590 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: I think we're going to close this thing out because 591 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: we are packed with draft content throughout this weekend and 592 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to all the draft content that 593 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: we got to get out for you guys on the 594 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: Vikings platform. So we'll make sure to check out Vikings 595 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: dot com, the Vikings YouTube page, Vikings now Connected TV app, Twitter, Facebook, 596 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: and of course the iHeartRadio app where you can catch 597 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: these very episodes. We have a lot of content that's 598 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: on all of those platforms. Vikings General manager Rick Spielman 599 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: spoke to the media again tonight following all four selections 600 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: that we just covered, so definitely go check that out. 601 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: And Vikings dot COM's Gabe Henderson has been inside the 602 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: TCO studios at the TCO Performance Center conducting just about 603 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: every single interview that's possible there, so check out the 604 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: one on ones, check out an interview with Vikings owner 605 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: and team president Mark Wilfe, and all of the interviews 606 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: that Gabe is doing have been spectacular, so definitely go 607 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: check those out and also make sure to catch another 608 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: edition of the Minnesota Vikings podcast tomorrow. We will have 609 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Vikings color analyst and another former linebacker, Pete Bursitch, as 610 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: well as Vikings team reporter Eric Smith will join the show. 611 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: So we're bringing you guests every single night of this 612 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Thanks to Jay Nelson for sending it all up, 613 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: and thank you again to our friends from Hive for 614 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: their great sponsorship of the Minnesota Vikens Podcast all weekend long. 615 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: For Jane Nelson, for Ben Lieber, for Lindsay Young, we 616 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow night