WEBVTT - Episode 461 | Rappers Delight 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:07.240 Wllian doctor. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:38.519 All right, take two, welcome back, Demarriage dropped her mike 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:39.480 on the original intro. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.160 But we are back, happy, happy, end of the week. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:42.879 It's hard a week. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.680 We were talking about the weather. You guys didn't miss 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.400 much after she dropped her micropho. We are back. We 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.479 are with our guy Zip on this this lovely. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.160 Let's get to that Netflix Saturday right there? 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.280 Z the acting mad different when he on netflixt Like 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.720 I'm just holding it out now, he'll be. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:08.920 Way more more sterious. Yea on Netflix. 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.040 You know what I'm saying, he acted Differentia be like, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.720 y are you acting on me on Netflix yet? 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.000 Be over there yet, b yo. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.360 So so yeah, there's been a lot of uh, a 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.480 lot of old old head slander going on, I think 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.600 in hip hop in the last few few months. And 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.520 you know, obviously me and you are from a different 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.080 a different era of you know, just wrapping hip hop. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.360 We came up in the nineties, right, So. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.080 Uh Rory has said, first of all, we're back sponsor 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.640 by Boostmow unlimited Talk texting data to start there. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:40.399 To's start with that. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.520 But so I got little my got little yachty shout 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.240 out the Yata, that's my guy. He was on our 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.800 bootleg calf he was on Boutlet Cave. Shout out the 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.160 bout Leg cab. We shupport Bootleg. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.920 Yeah. I love the lat half and he has the 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.080 good clips. Okay. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.160 Yeah, he get people lying about fucking twenty million dollar 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.440 football deals and ship. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.000 Cant turned it down to go to rap, turn it 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.080 down to be a rap. So I turned this shit 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.400 I never heard of my life. Well, the math was crazy, like. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.200 Dang aw you just you forget fifteen millions. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.240 I turned it down, oh man. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.120 But Yadi Yadi and his crew was up there shout 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.840 out to Yachti, and he was talking about, uh, just 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.040 the origin of raping back in the day, the music 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.880 not being good and being. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.840 Weak, specifically quoting sugar Hill Gang before you go there. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.160 Isn't this the second time Yachti's gotten in trouble with 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.480 old head hip hop Twitter. Didn't he do something with Ebro? 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.799 He said something about Biggie or something. I remember at 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.079 one point that correct, right. It was around the same 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.040 time the Kodak ship with the freestyle thing was going on, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.320 but him and Ebro got into it in like twenty 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.400 sixteen or something. Like that, and I remember it started 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.760 his career as the golden child for Golden era hip 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:54.480 hop to hate. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.119 He's had these comments before. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.600 Ebro on my comments and now I'm gonna get I'm 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.919 gonna get you after Ramadan. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.480 People don't worry about that. I thought he was a 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:02.200 conflidment about you. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:02.280 No. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.400 Yeah, I'm gonna compliment him as m I'm gonna give 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.480 him all the compliments here. The Yeah, I'm just in 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.560 a different space right now. But Hero, we're gonna talk 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.960 March nineteenth about your hat. Yeah, no, my go ahead. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:14.520 Oh you was talking? 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.560 No, no, no, my bad, Okay, all right, Well, anyway, so 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.240 he Yachty made some some comments, right, so specifically talking 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:26.080 about Sugar Hill Gang. Yeah, and the you know, the 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.240 Orige that's the origin, right, So he's saying that that 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.040 was weak. Right, So we know that things progress, music 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.320 changes and all. Hip hop is still a very young 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.240 art form of very young culture, and in the grand 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.320 scheme of just cultures around the world, probably the most impactful, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.840 but definitely the youngest culture. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.640 There might be some cultures that are being birth now 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:48.600 that we don't know about. Ryan. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.200 You might know about the culture being birth now I'm 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.920 geting twenty two years old. But the origin, that's the 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:54.800 origin of hip hop. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.000 Sugar Hill Gang. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.240 Hip hop got his name from that song, right, Yeah. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:04.680 So while what Yachty is saying, like when you rhyme 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.120 like that today, like if somebody was the realm, even 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.080 though this niggas that rhyme like that today that y'all 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:10.080 swear is dope stop. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.640 They just do it on Travis Scott Beats, so it's different. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.480 They do it on They do it on on must Beats, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.520 Mustard Beats, they do it, and y'all y'all think it's 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:24.320 the greatest shit y'all heard in the twenty first Like 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.880 all of that is a hip hop to the hip 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.680 to the hip to the hip hip hop you don't. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.000 Stop but rock into the bang bang boo. That's all 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.680 derivative of boom boom that that comes from that. So 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.719 that's why to hear Yachty say that now, it's like 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.600 I understand what he's saying, right when you just if 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.159 you was to hear somebody today say that, but you 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.400 hear people kind of like. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.360 Borrow that style now and and and and and. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.080 Rap like that with that cadence to that flow and 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.440 people love it, so I thinks, like, why not on? 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.440 You feel like he's spot on with that. That the 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:58.640 Sugar Hill Gang was trash. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.279 I mean, I never liked that music. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.280 When I was a little growing up, I ain't like 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:04.240 like that that rap. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.000 I didn't like it. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.400 I started liking rap, way g rap and Kane and 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.800 Carras one of them, Big Daddy Kane. I didn't like 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.080 the early like early rap. I paid that shit no mind, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.400 but I kind of I used to say the same thing, yes, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.240 And then came eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine where 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.080 you got the real rap dudes coming. Like I just said, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.560 can Carraras won? Well, if we're gonna do that? 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.640 He rap rock Kim was probably the first one rock 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.880 kings the way raps sound, the flow, the floor. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.559 He took it for the Kumodi Uptown twenty nine street 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:38.960 that hard pulls in and up. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:40.960 He got that now so float. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.240 But they strong on rap from the whack dudes, for 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.680 the dudes with the wack with no balls in the 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.640 mid late eighties, they strong OneD it for them. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.680 And then for fifteen years you had to be nice. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.360 You had to be nice, super livercool, you know, what 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.840 I'm saying in a party element kind of like it 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.080 was still around the party element because you had big 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.240 party and I'm saying James party and they was. But 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.800 you just had to be saying something didn't matter which 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.040 what kind of song you made. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.360 It had to be some intricate lyrics and that shit. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.239 But see the only thing with Yachty, and I understand 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.440 that I respect for you because Yachty is he's a 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.880 little younger than us, so I can understand. And then 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.440 you said you didn't even like that as well, so 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.840 I respect that. When people don't like something, it's like cool, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.560 if you did that, that's not your thing. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.520 Cool, I'm not. I'm not gonna argue that. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.200 Do you think that's his point because you can objectively 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.640 say I don't listen to rappers to like, I don't 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.200 get my car like you know, I haven't heard an 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.960 awhile you know, but that I don't think if that's 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.360 if that's his point, then cool. But I think how 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.200 I interpreted why people are upset, let me not say upset. 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.279 Why they're critiquing his critique is you cannot say that 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.799 about the very thing that's the reason you are here, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.679 and of course, it's going to evolve at the beginning 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.760 of every genre of music. Typically, the beginning sometimes is 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.360 the worst because they're still trying to figure out what 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.960 this thing is. Sugarhill Gang was coming from an era 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.080 where it was all about a party. You had a 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.560 party and then they do the breakbeat come out, and 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.160 then they the guy that was hosting the fucking party 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.520 and he just say anything. Sometimes it rhymes, and then 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.560 it developed into to what sugar Hill Gang is. So 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:23.200 that was their goal. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.600 Was not to sound like NAS because NAS didn't exist. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.120 They were at a party. It was Studio fifty four, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.320 coked up, trying to have a good time. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.560 They was trying to say hip hop, and then it 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.480 just developed when people like KRS heard it and took 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.000 it a little bit more seriously. So the critique something 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.200 where the point was just to party and not to 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:43.600 be some lyrical miracle shit like until Flash, there was 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.040 not even a bit of substance in it. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:45.920 But see what he said. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.000 He said he was talking nineties and then he went 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.320 to the seventies and I'm saying that twenty years me something, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.240 and I'm saying, like that's where he messed up. That 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.960 Like if I critique the critique at all, I would say, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.320 you go, you talking about dudes in the nineties and 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.320 then went to the same That's a big difference. But 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.120 if you want to he was rapping in the seventies. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.760 In the nineties, he said in the nineties it was 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.840 mad trash. I don't think it was mad trash in 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.880 the night. It was something they want effects sometimes that 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:10.640 that that is. 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.640 Not real rap. I mean like they wrapped. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.440 Bum sticky bum Stickyney, I got that over them. Tell 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.560 me what the chem sticky bump sticky. You just heard 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.360 what he said, like it was dudes. I told Rory 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.880 it used to be dudes crying about all. They mumble rapping, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.800 They mumble rapping. I can't understand what they're saying. So 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.960 what you ain't understand what dosson Fex was saying. You 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.920 just heard what they said. So you just care about 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.880 hearing what somebody saying. You don't really care about understanding 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:36.600 what's being said. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.160 Color fradul toe, get the oops, daisy. Now you got me. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.600 Crazy crazy with the skippity. But where's the baby so 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:49.400 one too? Buckle my enough shoot. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.480 Smelling feet okay, but that hard is that action? 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.880 He was hard, but we was a little woman to at. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.640 Like rap baby came to you, you know, another stret 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.320 baby Keim is not a unp the latest rap we got, 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.040 but he had rap. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:05.760 He was comparing that. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.480 Yeah, because the older dudes just say, oh, this mumble rap, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.680 I can't understand it. You don't care about understanding. You 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.679 just want to hear it. You just want the words 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.240 to be pronounced, but you don't care if you can 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:17.000 understand those words. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.080 There was there was a balance there, like that effects, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.800 there was other There was a balance there. And again 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.440 reflection of the time I've even heard Hove do interviews 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.920 like when him and ship My'm blankt on Hawaiian Sophie 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.560 with Jazzo when they were doing that fast raption. Yeah, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.480 like they were just trying to be as technical and 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.000 rap as fast as possible. As reflection of the times, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.800 you would say Jay probably wasn't saying much at all 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.120 when he was had that that flow. If Jay stuck 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.480 with that flow, we would not be talking about. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:48.240 J J was saying. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.720 He was talking though the flow was the flow was 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.760 kind of like because that was the that was the 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.520 eraror with like you said, dods effects Foo snickings. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.920 Foh niggas was talking too. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.360 When I was smaller, used to tease me because he 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.679 was a group he marking greasy but now living lunch 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:02.200 like Georgia. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.080 Yeah, like, so there's a balance talking. So it's right, 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.439 it's a balance. I just think that with Yadi is 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:12.000 saying you can't you can't disrespect the foundation, everything is 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.920 gonna evolve. Like if that's the case, we can go 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.880 back to when you know, in the NBA first started 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.000 and look at these trash niggas dribble them in one hand. 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:20.080 If you're gonna say. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.520 That, I would never put none of them in my 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.920 top ten from back then, which is fine, but I 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.600 wouldn't disrespect them niggas dribbling around like this and all. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.480 I'm not putting none of y'all going in the top ten. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.800 I don't care on Bob Cozy, George might get none 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:33.079 of them. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.160 But you can't do. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.520 That because it's gonna it's gonna come a time now 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.240 and we're probably seeing it where you know, the ship 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.319 that we grew up on is being disrespected. Wrapped from 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.000 the nineties or the early two thousands, or you know, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.880 athletes from the nineties like now how they say Jordan 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.520 is not the greatest, and this, that and the third, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:50.800 like I. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.920 Said, Jordan is DeMar DeRozan. Now I wanted to break 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:54.400 the phone. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.560 You see what I'm saying. You see what I'm saying. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.240 So it's it's going to come to a point where 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.600 it's going to be our time with were gonna be, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.880 you know, forty years from now looking back, Like I 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.960 ain't gonna lie that shit it was talking about was stupid. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.560 That nigga, he ain't know what the fuck he was talking. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.720 He was trash, that nigga, Yo, That Rory album was garbage, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:11.360 that shit like I. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:11.839 Said that now. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.920 But what I'm just saying, like, if that's the case, 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.760 every generation is gonna look back and say that was 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.320 trash because everything is gonna evolve. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.040 To me, you could say that shit. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.160 But even to your point with sports, like I've said 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.960 countless times, Babe, Ruth's super overrated. I don't think he 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:28.800 could hit a fast ball from a thirteen year old 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:29.760 from dr right now. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.720 But that don't you bugging the fuck out baby taking 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.240 that shit, y'alld, that shit is out of. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.600 Here right that That doesn't mean that he didn't move 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.280 the game forward to get a Mickey Mantle like, it 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.360 takes time for things to develop. That doesn't mean I 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.480 completely disrespect Babe Ruth. But do I think Barry Bonds 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.160 is a better fucking hitter. Of course I do. It's 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.679 everything happened evolve. But that doesn't mean I got a 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:51.760 shit on Babe Ruth. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.080 So today, NAS probably raps better than ninety five percent 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.679 of the rappers he's been rapping. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.719 Maybe under something he is, maybe ninety eight point. He's 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:05.920 been rapping for thirty something years. So if we're gonna 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:06.760 do that, it's like okay. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.440 But there's still guys that are from that that was 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.040 inspired by sugar Hill Gang that can rap better than 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.120 ninety five ninety eight percent of the field that we 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.959 have in front of us today. So you know what 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.840 I'm saying, It's like, you can't. I'm not saying Yachty 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.760 gotta love the sugar Hill. I don't play that. I 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.600 don't love the sugar I'm not. That's not my. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.160 I'm from the eighties, but that wasn't what I was listening. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.080 So you say he gotta watch his mouth, I'm not 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.800 saying he gotta watch his mouth. I'm just saying like, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.000 it's a way to be like yo, But I don't 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.200 really think that that was like I never listened to that. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.839 You don't got to say that that was weak. And 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.120 because that's what that's the found, you can't say the 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.200 foundation is weak as hell. Now you got to think 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.480 about it. It's coming from a place. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.840 Where they were telling him like, yo, you can't rap you. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.600 Your sound is trash. You trash eyes. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.320 So he said, if I could go back to twenty 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.719 and sixteen, and he basically saying, if I knew then 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.480 what I know now, but I can say that no, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.880 he they was when they were telling YACHTI like, Yo, 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.200 you ain't saying nothing when you rhym and blah blah blah. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.319 He's saying, I was a kid, did I didn't know 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.319 that back in the days, these niggas ain't used to 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:05.800 be saying shit. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.120 And I would add a great defense for. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.760 It's so it's such a complete difference because they were 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.120 creating something like from nothing, yet they had no example. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.600 You have fifty years of examples of niggas rapping amazingly 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.200 and you still can't put words together. Well, like, that's 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.160 completely different reason why they have no examples to go off. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.240 And answer to her point too. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.439 When you're saying you love the nineties and didn't really 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.360 listen to stuff from the seventies or early eighties, that's 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.920 fair because I think the nineties elevated everything. I don't 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.719 know if the generation after the nineties and two thousands, 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:42.400 except for a select few, really elevated anything, whereas every 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.800 generation besides Yachty's has elevated it to what a hip 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.480 hop head would say is a better level. I'm not 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.320 saying that there's other people that don't think what Yachty 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.160 and them did is incredible in their subgenre of hip hop. 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.160 Not saying that, but to you, every single time, it's 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:58.760 gotten better. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:05.560 Why I rap got simplified bro money Nelly in fifty Bro, Yeah, Ones, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.079 Nelly in fifty game Bro. They had the most simplest 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.040 raps out of anybody in the business, and they was 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.640 doing the most numbers, and so everybody said, I'm gonna 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.280 say the most simplest shit I could possibly say and 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.160 try to do what they did. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.240 I feel like they are the ones that like. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:28.120 Simple simple by by mid two thousand standards now that 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:32.280 would be super lyrical. Nelly's super lyrical to today's crowd. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.760 Yes, who's the pretty boy naund niggas okay around nigga 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.480 that lirical. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.640 If you want to, yes, because it was different. But 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:45.160 when we was. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.360 Young, it was little yachty and and people that you'll 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:49.680 think can't rap they like that ship. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.880 No, I'm not saying, and I understand that, and I 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.840 also give them that respect, Like, okay, if that's what 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.960 y'all like. When I was coming up, people didn't like Snoop, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.800 people didn't like Dre, people didn't like a lot of 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.400 that shit that I was listening to, and I was like, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:02.200 what this is dope? 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.400 Now look at what they turned it into. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.960 I'm just saying, when you say that the foundation is week, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.640 the foundation can't be weak as hell because look how 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.320 look how much was built on the foundation. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.520 I mean now, I think how much hip hop came 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:16.560 from the Sugar Hill Gang. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.680 Look how far the culture from that from Yeah, from 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.280 that moment, that that style, from that sound. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.360 Fifty something years later. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:30.240 It's the most impactful, influential culture, maybe art form on 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.840 the planet. So the foundation of that, you can't say 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.000 it's weak as hell, because if that was weak as hell, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:36.760 it would have collapsed. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.800 It wouldn't have it would nothing would have been built 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:39.160 a bomb. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.760 It feel like it was some real shit going on 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.800 back then too, though, because if you listen to everything 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.560 that was like would dudes like got sent up? Nor 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.960 four eight year bit? Like turn stick up? 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.280 Kid? What you done? Did ship up? Nor four eight 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:52.800 year bit? 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.600 Right? So they had different than that's melly mal right. 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.440 So they had dudes that was really rapid. It's just 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.600 you had a bunch of party shit going on at 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.960 the same time. So like that's probably why don't fall 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.240 because the foundation of that real rap shit it was 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.000 dead and I'm saying it was dead like they was. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.119 They was a ram, but they wasn't at the forefront, 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.160 just like nowadays the real rap nigga they ain't at 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.080 the forefront. It's these niggas that h hop just a 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.960 new version of that ship. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.360 But I mean, no, it's still still lyrics. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.400 There's never been a year in hip hop where actual 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.440 lyricists weren't the forefront of the entire thing. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.120 It's it's gotten smaller and smaller of the amount of them. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.640 But to this to this day, Yeah, the dudes that 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.840 sell records, you got raps got rap. 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.200 So I mean you gotta be saying. So you could 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:34.640 sell a. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.720 Song without rapping, but you can't sell records without rapping. 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.680 But if you do make good point now, I think 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.280 about it with Nelly and fifty and just that era, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:46.440 simplifying ship for when it got super super mainstream, commercial, 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.440 monetizing everything, it had to be dumb down a bit, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.600 because even fifty was way more lyrical on its mixtapes 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.800 before get Rich dumbed it down a little bit. I 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.160 think hip hop continues to evolve from the generation before 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:00.640 and yeah, it. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:01.560 Evolved to more simple. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:06.160 Yeah, from the soldiable every single time got lyrical, lyrical, nineties, 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.720 two thousand got simple, and now it's super. It just 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.800 evolves with the generation before it. So you do make 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.440 a good point. Simplifying it in the mid two thousands 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:16.720 did get us to where we are now. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.000 To the simple dame that's who they grew up on. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.400 Yeah, he born in O two, This would fifty come out, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.520 so the dudes that's his age, that's that's the music 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:26.440 they need. Peoples who's listening to from when they little 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.720 they had fifty. Yeah, Brian said, he met he knows 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.000 t I as an actor, not as a rapper. I 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.959 know I knew tis a rapper, but I'm saying I'm 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.240 more familiar with him as a reality TV star. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.880 Well I locked up at that though. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.160 Yeah, but is my man though, I feel like Major 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.280 was like that's my little homie. Yeah, like respectfully, Major, King, 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.719 DEMONI all of them, I know, the whole family. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:52.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.959