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Speaker 1: This is the Draft Prospect Review Podcast on Patriots dot

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Speaker 1: Com Radio. Welcome to the NFL Draft. The Draft Prospect

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Speaker 1: Review Podcast is your source for all the latest news

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Speaker 1: and information on the NFL Draft. The new England Patriots

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Speaker 1: flag now here to preview the linebackers the writers of

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Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com Time once again for another draft podcast preview.

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Speaker 1: We're working our way through the defense guys. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about some linebackers today, and much like we talked

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Speaker 1: about with the defensive line, there are different kinds of linebackers.

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Speaker 1: There are those traditional inside guys that you want to

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Speaker 1: some inside guys that aren't as traditional that maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit smaller, more speed based. And of course you

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Speaker 1: have some outside guys as well. But I am really

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Speaker 1: fascinated by the inside guys and whether or not Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is looking to sort of change his philosophy a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And we all have heard the names of

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Speaker 1: the top of that list, Na Kobe Dean, Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys like that Christian Harris, some guys that

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Speaker 1: Spikes more recently on the inside with the Belichick defense,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious your thoughts. Do you think that maybe

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Speaker 1: you're starting to see some signs that Bill is going

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Speaker 1: to go in a different direction there. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: And that's a good it's a great question, Paul. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I asked. I'm glad. Yeah, I hope so,

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Speaker 1: I hope. So you know a couple of things going

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Speaker 1: on though. You know, they're having some turnover at linebacker.

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Speaker 1: And when you think I think of the Patriots defense,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's defense, you think about linebackers and you know,

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Speaker 1: the guys that that run around and make the plays.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like they have a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: got hurt in camp. You know those guys are back.

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Speaker 1: How do they feel about them? Do they feel like

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what we're seeing with the mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: where you'll see plenty of Devin Lloyd and plenty of

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Speaker 1: Kobe Dean, and you know, I love both of them.

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Speaker 1: I think they both have you know, some some question marks,

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Speaker 1: but overall, I think you talk about speed, about guys

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Speaker 1: those two guys are both fantastic, and Lloyd Tease is

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Speaker 1: there were fifteen guys. Fifteen of the linebackers ran a

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Speaker 1: I agree with Mike, I think he plays faster than

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Speaker 1: and I think Nakobe Dean is the kind of player

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Speaker 1: won't necessarily be defensive end. Some of those guys will

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Speaker 1: It seems like all eleven guys are sort of in

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