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Speaker 1: Well, ackon, it is the start of a new week.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you who are beginning Monday with us.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some fun as we.

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Speaker 2: Roll throughout the course of another week here with all

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Speaker 2: of you. We appreciate all the time that you spend

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Speaker 2: with us. And it was a bombshell of a week

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Speaker 2: last week with Minneapolis news, Iran news, the Greenland talk,

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Speaker 2: the continued fallout of Venezuela, all of that still continuing.

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Speaker 2: Several things will be tracking over the course of this week.

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Speaker 2: There's actually a Supreme Court case I can't believe it

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Speaker 2: has come to this on whether men should be able

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Speaker 2: to compete in women's sports that is being argued tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: There is the possibility we could get some rulings from

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court on the tariff case this week as well.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, the larger context of the Minneapolis ice shooting

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Speaker 2: took over much of pop culture over the course of

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Speaker 2: the weekend, whether it was sports, whether it was the

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Speaker 2: Golden Globes, and I thought I would play some of

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Speaker 2: this for you because the dishonesty that is coming out

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Speaker 2: across the pop culture landscape I think deserves to be

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Speaker 2: called out and frankly I think you need to know

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Speaker 2: what your kids or grandkids might be hearing. Inside of

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Speaker 2: the world of entertainment and sports pop culture writ large.

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Speaker 2: Here is Wanda Sykes. She is a comedian wearing a

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Speaker 2: pin to honor Renee Good, who she says, well, just

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Speaker 2: listen to what she had to say. Cut eleven. This

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Speaker 2: is last night in Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Of course, this is for the mother who was murdered

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Speaker 3: by Ice agent. And it's really sad. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I know people are out marching and all today and

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Speaker 3: we need to speak up.

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Speaker 4: We need to be out.

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Speaker 3: There and shut this rogue government found because it's just

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Speaker 3: awful what they're doing to people.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was in the Golden Globes. Buck, I want

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Speaker 2: to play a couple of these. This is crazy and

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by it, but I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of you may be sort of in disbelief that this

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Speaker 2: would happen. Golden State Warriors basketball coach Steve Kerr, in

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Speaker 2: the aftermath of an NBA game, had this to say.

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Speaker 2: This is cut nineteen, him going after Ice again. This

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Speaker 2: is a sports press conference after a basketball game.

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Speaker 1: Cut nineteen.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad that the Timberwolves recognized her life and the

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Speaker 5: tragic nature of her death. And it's shameful really that

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Speaker 5: in our country we can have law enforcement officers who

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Speaker 5: commit murder and seemingly get away with it. It's shameful

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Speaker 5: that the government can come out and lie about what

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Speaker 5: devastating to lose anyone's life, especially in that matter. So

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Speaker 5: it's terrible, terribly sad for her family and for her

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Speaker 2: All right, And then here is cut twenty. This is

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks head coach Doc Rivers, another NBA coach, and

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Speaker 2: another postgame press conference. For those of you who are

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Speaker 6: Listen, what happened in Minnesota was a straight up murder

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Speaker 6: in my opinion, and it's awful. You know, this lady

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Speaker 6: clearly to me we're attacking brown people and I just

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Speaker 6: our country right now is absolutely wrong. As far as

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Speaker 6: because den't seem might take care.

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Speaker 1: And that's troublesome, okay, Buck.

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Speaker 2: That is Golden globes and the NBA, so entertainment and

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Speaker 2: Much of what those guys said was factually inaccurate, in

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a video of her parking or car

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Speaker 2: But how do you respond to this? What should happen here?

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of big thoughts on the NBA front,

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Speaker 1: Oh there's so many things, Clay.

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Speaker 8: One is that it is possible to be a top

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Speaker 1: And I say that with love.

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Speaker 8: Kids games can be great, but you can also be

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Speaker 8: definitely the case, or it's true really of any professional sport.

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Speaker 8: But the NBA is showing us that you can be

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Speaker 8: at coaching basketball. It's also a reminder of why I

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Speaker 8: it's not fair to punish all the players. Well, okay,

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Speaker 8: where the players who think that this is gross? By

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Speaker 8: the way, there are none. Really we will speak out.

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Speaker 8: We all know that, and if the one does, we'll

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Speaker 8: So I don't like the NBA, and this is a

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Speaker 8: I miss I missed the NBA of the nineties, the

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Speaker 8: other part of this that really bothers me, though, is

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Speaker 8: that this has nothing to do with people who are

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Speaker 8: Harold Harper's murder, they would have no idea what I

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Speaker 8: He's a white guy sixty four years old. A random

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Speaker 8: by the way of we don't mess around here secondary murder.

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Speaker 8: This guy's going to go away for the rest of

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Speaker 8: his life. But this situation happens thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 8: did nothing wrong. So Clay, why is it then that

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Speaker 8: they focus so much. Why does this thing that happened

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Speaker 8: They get to pack themselves on the back. This is

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Speaker 1: It's racist. Therefore I'm the good guy.

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Speaker 8: and they're actually not outraged by Hanus murder, which is

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Speaker 8: not what happened to Minnesota anyway, because Hannas murders happen

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Speaker 2: That they could care less about. I think that's all

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Speaker 2: think would be really interesting. Both of these guys said

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Speaker 2: legality when it comes to defamation in public cases like

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Speaker 2: this is quite high. But the NBA mandates that coaches

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Speaker 2: They have to show up, they have to answer questions.

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Speaker 2: I think it could lead to some really interesting outcomes here,

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Speaker 2: because what I think there should be consequences when you

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Speaker 2: murder in this case, it should not be charged. And

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Speaker 2: I think it quite evidently, based on the videos that

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Speaker 2: She blocked rather ice stages with her car. She was obstructing,

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Speaker 2: she was breaking the law. And really, Clay, what this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And think about what the law they

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Speaker 2: It's that people who are illegally here, oftentimes having committed

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Speaker 8: You could add to that, they think that if they

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Speaker 8: play this game, right, Oh, A cop is chasing somebody

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what they're doing here.

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Speaker 8: And they think they have some moral right to do it,

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Speaker 8: and they don't. And we saw how they treat people

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Speaker 8: that trespass on their sacred day of January sixth, sending me.

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Speaker 8: The only thing the FBI is apparently able to do

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Speaker 8: tracked down nonviolent J six protesters and the ones who

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Speaker 8: get assaulted by leftist lunatics day in and day out,

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Speaker 1: In fact, Kamala raises money for.

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Speaker 2: Them, not only that they want more of these situations.

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Speaker 2: I saw this clip and I figured we would grab it.

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Speaker 2: This is a woman standing, several women standing in front

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Speaker 1: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane.

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Speaker 8: Welcome back in here, Clay and Buck. So they've decided

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Speaker 8: People that aren't even supposed to be in America. At all,

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Speaker 8: but people say agents so much even creeps into my verbiage.

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Speaker 8: A young CIA officer and you go to the farm,

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Speaker 8: which is our training facility. There have been books and

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Speaker 8: movies written about it. There's a whole series of driving stuff.

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Speaker 8: I know, Clay's gonna be like you learn that stuff, Clay.

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Speaker 8: Just because I don't deploy it because I'm worried about

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Speaker 8: your safety and trying to go the speed limit like

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Speaker 8: a law abiding fellow, doesn't mean I don't know how

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Speaker 8: to do these things. Although it's a perishable skill, I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna I'm not gonna pretend like if you don't do

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Speaker 8: that stuff and you aren't out there and you're not

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Speaker 8: involved in driving in the third world and doing these

448
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Speaker 8: kinds of things, you will forget. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 8: a sport, it's like anything else. The kind of is

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Speaker 8: like high speed precision driving stuff. But Clay, part of

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Speaker 8: what we learn and part of what anybody will learn

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Speaker 8: in a government kind of secret agent man driving class

453
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Speaker 8: is your car is a very effective weapon. I don't

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Speaker 8: know why these Democrats pretend like we don't know this.

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Speaker 8: Cars have been used exclusively, meaning just cars in mass

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Speaker 8: casualty terror attacks. A car used as a weapon is

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Speaker 8: incredibly lethal and can cause a mass casual deal.

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Speaker 2: Just happened in the Milwaukee suburbs not very long ago.

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Speaker 2: I know nobody wants to talk about it, but you

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Speaker 2: remember the black guy who decided that he wanted to

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Speaker 2: pore through and kill all those innocent people at the parade.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, eighty people died. It was a truck, But

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Speaker 8: eighty people died in Nice, France during the Investie Day

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Speaker 8: celebrations because of a terrorist.

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Speaker 1: There was a terrorist in New York City. I think

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Speaker 1: it was just a pick up.

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Speaker 8: It was a rented U haul pickup truck and he

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Speaker 8: drove on the near the West Side Highway and ran

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Speaker 8: over a bunch of people. My point is it is

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Speaker 8: clearly a lethal incident if somebody decided they're going to

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Speaker 8: run you over, and you, as a law enforcement officer,

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Speaker 8: don't have to make the determination. Are they trying to

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Speaker 8: run me over or are they just going to run

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Speaker 8: me over because they have forced this situation, you were

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Speaker 8: allowed to defend yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, and it was only a year ago we had

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Speaker 2: the awful terror attack in New Orleans on New Year's Eve,

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Speaker 2: right as New Year's Day began, remember in the French Quarter.

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Speaker 8: F I think we can't even remember all the vehicle

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Speaker 8: terror attacks. There's so many of them. The vehicles are

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Speaker 8: a very effective weapon. Yeah, yeah, And so in conjunction

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Speaker 8: with that, and I think this is an important part

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Speaker 8: of the story as well.

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Speaker 1: The guy got dragged by.

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Speaker 2: Someone in a car trying to obstruct an ice procedure

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Speaker 2: just in the last year, So do you think that

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Speaker 2: he might be have been uniquely aware of the dangers

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Speaker 2: of vehicles, more so than most. And again, I think

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Speaker 2: when you watch this entire thing in context, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if anybody has put all these different clips

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Speaker 2: together so that you could go watch it showing up

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Speaker 2: and honking her horn for three minutes while being perpendicular

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Speaker 2: on the road as they are conducting the ice raid,

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Speaker 2: the ice investigation, honking her horn, dancing along to it.

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Speaker 2: The fact that she got rained to try to I mean,

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Speaker 2: why are we not prosecuting these people who are training

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Speaker 2: these activists to show up and try to obstruct ICE procedures,

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Speaker 2: ICE raids, Like all of this seems very clear, like

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Speaker 2: who's paying for this? How it was lied about a

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Speaker 2: grand criminal conspiracy.

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Speaker 8: It was lied about on purpose. They lied about her

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Speaker 8: being a legal observer, they lied about her being a

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Speaker 8: mom on her way to the grocery store. None of that,

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Speaker 8: if you saw the video, made any sense at all.

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Speaker 8: It was clear very early on this was an intentional

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Speaker 8: confrontation staged by the woman.

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Speaker 1: And her partner.

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Speaker 8: And the whole point, though Clay, is that they have

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Speaker 8: twenty four hours to get people who are low information,

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Speaker 8: who are emotionally easy to manipulate, to get them all

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Speaker 8: riled up about this stuff, and then they're committed, and

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Speaker 8: it's very hard to get people to admit that they

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Speaker 8: were fooled and that they were wrong. You're seeing you're

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Speaker 8: seeing a lot of this with this incident, where people

516
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Speaker 8: that made this their big cause before knowing anything. They

517
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Speaker 8: don't really want to look themselves in the mirror and

518
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Speaker 8: be like, hmm, I'm kind of a moron and didn't

519
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Speaker 8: wait for the facts and couldn't figure out what was

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Speaker 8: going on here early on, because it was pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: Remember, and I give credit to Aisha Hasni, I was

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Speaker 2: on her show Saturday, It's Got a New show on

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Speaker 2: Fox News. But Axios had a story up in the

524
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Speaker 2: summer saying that the goal of Democrats was to get

525
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Speaker 2: people shot at these protests. Their goal was to get

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Speaker 2: active as shot so that they could try to shut

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Speaker 2: this down. They wanted this to happen. That is the

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Speaker 2: goal under which they are doing all of this training

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Speaker 2: and why they are engaging in the behavior that they did,

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Speaker 2: because they want something just like this to happen.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your.

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Speaker 8: Calls here coming up. Want to hear from you, especially

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Speaker 8: if you live in the Minneapolis area. Curious how this

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Speaker 8: is playing out in front of all of you. Look

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Speaker 8: twenty five to thirty years ago, one of the hottest

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Speaker 8: all that was recorded on VHS tapes. I remember this

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Speaker 8: was true in my family for sure. But fast forward

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Speaker 8: thirty years later. Do you have a working VCR in

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Speaker 1: Two guys walk.

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Speaker 9: Up to a mic, anything goes Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 9: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Outumber three Monday, edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton show. We've talked about a lot so far that

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Speaker 2: continued fallout in Minneapolis, the way that it has been

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Speaker 2: responded at the Golden Globes in the NBA, and report

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Speaker 2: coming tomorrow on a transports case, but we haven't talked

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Speaker 2: about very much yet. Aaron and I want to jump

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Speaker 2: in here now and talk about why I think and

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Speaker 2: I bet Buck we'll sign off on it if this

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Speaker 2: could potentially be the biggest story going on in the

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Speaker 2: world right now, depending on exactly how it is going

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Speaker 2: to go from here. There have been roughly two weeks

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Speaker 2: of anti fascist, anti fascist, anti theocratic government leadership against

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Speaker 2: the Ayatola who has in power in Iran since nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy nine. And Buck, I want to start with this

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Speaker 2: idea that I want everybody to just think about because

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Speaker 2: I think it ties in with what you and I

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Speaker 2: have correctly deduced as the identity politics governing much of

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Speaker 2: the choices being made on the left in America. Have

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Speaker 2: you seen a single major campus protest in support of

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Speaker 2: the Iranian protesters anywhere in America so far? And I

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Speaker 2: say that because the Iranian government has killed it appears

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Speaker 2: thousands of innocent protesters who have taken to the streets

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Speaker 2: of Iran. They're furious because the overall inflation rate has

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Speaker 2: gone out of control in the wake of the Twelve

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Speaker 2: Day War against Israel, which demonstrated just how feudal Iranian

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Speaker 2: military power true was. Many people are saying, we are

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Speaker 2: fed up. This protest started among people who are selling

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Speaker 2: goods in markets, and they basically said the inflation rate

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Speaker 2: has skyrocketed to such extent that they're having to change

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Speaker 2: prices so often that the Iranian currency has become effectively valueless.

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Speaker 2: And all of these merchants, all of these retailers said

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Speaker 2: were over it. They shut down, they refused to sell

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Speaker 2: their goods. That's where this protest started. It has since

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Speaker 2: spread everywhere. But I want all of you to take note.

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Speaker 2: Who saw campus protests from UCLA to Columbia and just

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Speaker 2: about all points in between. There hasn't been at least

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Speaker 2: that I've seen any campus protests that have taken over

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Speaker 2: at all in favor of the Iranian people. And that

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Speaker 2: is I think, and I bet you would sign off

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Speaker 2: on this buck because the Jews are seen as white

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Speaker 2: and they were the bad guys when it came to

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Speaker 2: Palestine and everything that was going on in Gaza, and

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Speaker 2: when it's actual brave Iranians standing up against the Iranian government,

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Speaker 2: there isn't an identity politics coalition for stupid leftists in

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Speaker 2: America to be able to jump on the bandwagon of

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Speaker 2: and so a lot of people are just pretending this

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Speaker 2: isn't happening now. Granted, it's all so difficult because we

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Speaker 2: don't have a ton of footage because they have shut

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Speaker 2: down the Internet, they've shut down phones, they've shut down

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Speaker 2: the Iranian theocratic leadership under the Ayatola has so people

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Speaker 2: aren't able to get information out as easily. But it

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Speaker 2: is really markedly different when we compare the way that

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Speaker 2: these two situations have been treated.

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Speaker 8: The challenge for so many on the left in this

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Speaker 8: country and the Democrats all of them, is in some

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Speaker 8: of these international incidents there are clear echoes of domestic

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Speaker 8: policy and narratives that prolifer among democrats here in this country,

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Speaker 8: and it causes problems for them.

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Speaker 1: Example is Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: What happened to Venezuela, Right, I'm gonna get to Iran

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Speaker 8: in a second course, but what happened in Venezuela is socialism

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Speaker 8: and social justice, essentially class warfare. The country, unfortunately, through

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Speaker 8: democratic processes, embraced a platform of central planning, class warfare

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Speaker 8: and social justice that took the largest proven oil reserves

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Speaker 8: in the world and made them essentially a pittance when

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Speaker 8: it came to dealing with because they can't actually pump

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Speaker 8: the oil lot and all these other problems, but they

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Speaker 8: can ruin anything. Communism can destroy anything, right. Well, the

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Speaker 8: other side of this is that in Iran you have

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Speaker 8: a country that was never colonized, so there's really no

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Speaker 8: anti colonial rhetoric that makes any sense. It's never been

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Speaker 8: a colony of the United States, and you have Persians,

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Speaker 8: not Arabs. But that's a distinction that a lot of

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Speaker 8: people won't even get into. But they've been running their

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Speaker 8: our own show there for quite some time and they've

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Speaker 8: ruined it. And in Islamic theocracy unfortunately is going to

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Speaker 8: run into these problems, and Iran has done things to

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Speaker 8: its own people. You know, we're always in this world

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Speaker 8: of whatever America does, and however America messes things up,

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Speaker 8: it's always our fault.

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Speaker 1: It's always our fault.

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Speaker 8: What you see in Iran and with the uprising Clay

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Speaker 8: is the people of Iran. Yes, are saying that this

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Speaker 8: revolutionary very Islamic by its own designation government is a

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Speaker 8: disastrous tyrannical failure top to bottom on all counts. Now,

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Speaker 8: given that reality, why is it that there has been

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Speaker 8: so much of a focus in the UN, for example,

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Speaker 8: on resolutions against Israel. Why has there been such a

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Speaker 8: focus on the misadventures of America in the Middle East

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Speaker 8: without taking you to count the fact that Iran has

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Speaker 8: been a state sponsor of terror all over the world

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Speaker 8: and especially in the Middle East for longer than you

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Speaker 8: and I have been alive, while ruining the country for

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Speaker 8: its people, while being a disaster. Basically, it's an Islamic state,

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Speaker 8: different kind of Islamic state, but it's an Islamic state

657
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Speaker 8: failure and it can't be avoided anymore. It also reminds

658
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Speaker 8: everybody the Obama administration gambit on the Middle East was

659
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Speaker 8: anything clay, anything to get a nuclear deal with Iran

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Speaker 8: and then things will get peaceful, because the alternative to

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Speaker 8: that is World War three.

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Speaker 1: The World War three people are wrong.

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Speaker 8: The World War three people are actually consigning the Iranian

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Speaker 8: people to perpetual misery unless there is an uprising like this.

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Speaker 1: Not only are they wrong, they are exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to be wrong, like you can think

667
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Speaker 2: what's going to happen in an event, end ends up

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Speaker 2: being different. There's different levels of wrongness. They're so wrong

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Speaker 2: that they're actually working against the basic interests of the

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Speaker 2: Iranian people and of global freedom around the world. And

671
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Speaker 2: now here is the next question that is going to

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Speaker 2: come out. Iran has shown that it will kill thousands

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Speaker 2: of protesters when they take to the streets, that they

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Speaker 2: are willing to indiscriminately rein down Holy hell and their

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Speaker 2: citizens who are fighting for basic freedoms. And also pointing

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Speaker 2: out what I think is really significant, which is it's

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Speaker 2: not as you go back and watch, and I would

678
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Speaker 2: encourage people to just do Google searches on this, go

679
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Speaker 2: back and look at what Iran in the nineteen seventies

680
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Speaker 2: under the Shaw was like women walking around in dresses

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Speaker 2: and skirts, not having to wear these jobs, high levels

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Speaker 2: of education for the citizenry.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 1: The theocracy of Iran has not.

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Speaker 2: Only been a complete and total failure when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the base freedoms of the people of Iran, it's

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Speaker 2: destroyed the entirety of their economy. And again it's somewhat similar,

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Speaker 2: I would say to Venezuela, because this is a country

689
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Speaker 2: that is incredibly benefited and it is very fortunate to

690
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: have huge natural resources of oil, and so they have

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Speaker 2: the ability to have a successful society. They've had one before,

692
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Speaker 2: back in the nineteen seventies, much like Venezuela. It is

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Speaker 2: evidence of how far left wing politics destroys everything that

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Speaker 2: it touches. And so what should we do buck when

695
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Speaker 2: it comes to trying to support the protesters, which President

696
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Speaker 2: Trump has said he is willing to do. Should we

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Speaker 2: have more strikes in Iran? Should we What is the

698
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Speaker 2: actual tangible, if any result, that you think the United

699
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Speaker 2: States should be involved in in Iran going forward? Right now?

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Speaker 2: Because let me also lay it out for people out there.

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Speaker 2: There is an argument and it may or may not

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Speaker 2: be true. Don't don't know that if the United States

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00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: gets involved in any way, it could strengthen the Iranian

704
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Speaker 2: government because it allows them to say, oh, this is

705
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Speaker 2: just external factors trying to diminish the success of the

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Speaker 2: Iranian government. This isn't a organic growth opposition from inside

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Speaker 2: the country.

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Speaker 1: This is the United States, This is.

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Speaker 2: Israel going forward already. I think these protests have come

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Speaker 2: about because of the strikes. What should we do now?

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Speaker 2: That is what the president and his advisors are weighing. Well,

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00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: that's a very that's a legitimate, tough question. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: would like to say, Well, I'll say this first. It

714
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Speaker 2: is okay to say that something like this, and it's

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Speaker 2: not just because I'm saying it.

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Speaker 1: I say this about a whole range of things. It's complicated.

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Speaker 8: It's hard because you can make a decision with the

718
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Speaker 8: best of knowledge and intentions that based on the extreme

719
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 8: variability of these circumstances, could blow up in your face.

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Speaker 8: So you can have some guiding principles, but even the

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Speaker 8: best guiding principles about whether it's non interventionism or an

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Speaker 8: aversion to to coup involvement or coup plotting or all

723
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Speaker 8: these different things. Okay, Well, we also know that we

724
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Speaker 8: blew up the nuclear program and nothing happened, right, So

725
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 8: there's it's not as easy as just this is what

726
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Speaker 8: the smart people think and therefore it's right or wrong.

727
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Speaker 8: I think in the case of Iran, it would be

728
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Speaker 8: obviously fantastic for the for the Islamic Revolution to fail

729
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Speaker 8: and collapse at the hands of the Iranian people. And

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Speaker 8: you know, you hear this because you have a really

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Speaker 8: robust Iranian American community of people who a lot of

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Speaker 8: them people who fled. I mean you go around the La.

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Speaker 2: Area, for example, legitimately fled because they might have been

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Speaker 2: killed if they had stayed in the country. This is

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Speaker 2: real asylum seekers. So they're they're refugees.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there are people that had to take refuge

737
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Speaker 8: just like the Cubans in South Miami who left because

738
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Speaker 8: they didn't want to be part of Castro's authoritarian dictatorship.

739
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Speaker 8: I mean, you'll notice there's this belief in left wing

740
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Speaker 8: circles that all go well, America is bad and all

741
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 8: other governments are better than or at least as good

742
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Speaker 8: as America. And that's in a crazy belief not rooted

743
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Speaker 8: in any actual reality. THERESI the Iranian regime is an

744
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 8: evil regime. They do evil constantly. They have ways of

745
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Speaker 8: rationalizing it, but they do evil externally and internally, and they're.

746
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Speaker 1: Bad at what they do. You know, you can talk

747
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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 8: I mean people will say, what about Saudi Arabia, or

749
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Speaker 8: like what about China. Those countries do things that I

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Speaker 8: also think are immoral and bad and wrong, But those

751
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 8: countries aren't run by complete and utter morons. I'm just

752
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 8: saying in terms of the results. It's not about iq

753
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 8: but it's in terms of the results. Iran is a disaster.

754
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 8: It is a disaster on the scale of Venezuela. Is

755
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Speaker 8: a disaster as a country. So at least in the

756
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Speaker 8: case of something like Saudi, which is, by the way,

757
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 8: in the process of liberalizing, not a lot, but it

758
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 8: is under Muhammad bin Solomon. It is, you know, allowing

759
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 8: women some greater freedoms, and there are some things happening there.

760
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 8: It's a little bit of a more nuanced picture, but

761
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 8: it's still an authoritarian theocracy.

762
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Speaker 1: But they're building a lot of stuff play.

763
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Speaker 8: It is safe, it is clean, and it is a

764
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Speaker 8: very robust economy because of its energy exports. Iran is

765
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Speaker 8: a disaster, yes, so it offers even the people of

766
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Speaker 8: Iran nothing. And this is where the left in this country,

767
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 8: which loves to blame America, Iran is not America's fault.

768
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Speaker 1: Iran is the Shia Iranian Islamic theocracy's fault.

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Speaker 2: Here's another angle on that buck. A lot of the

770
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: countries I believe in the Middle East actually prefer the

771
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: Ayatola in control because they know he's an incompetent leader

772
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: and that Iran offers no actual danger or threat to

773
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Speaker 2: them because of their incompetence. In others, you don't know

774
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Speaker 2: who's going to replace the Ayatola. We always like to think, oh,

775
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: it's going to get better. Sometimes the leader that replaces

776
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Speaker 2: the bad leader is worse. Now this is much less significant,

777
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Speaker 2: But Chicago did it right. Everybody's like, no, there's no

778
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: way they could do worse than Mariy Lightfoot. And then

779
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: they went and got Brandon Johnson. Right, Sometimes replacing a

780
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: failed leader does not lead to a better place. So

781
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: you also have to to your point on the uncertainty.

782
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation is in terms of

783
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: who would rise up to be the next leader. Now

784
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Speaker 2: we've reached out to the Shah of Iran, who is

785
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: we have actually reached out to Reza Pavlaby. I'm probably

786
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: mispronouncing his lame as I always do for these names,

787
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: but he is saying, based on what I have seen, hey,

788
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Speaker 2: I'm willing to be sort of a bridge to a

789
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: more democratic Iran. Because people have a fond recollection now

790
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: of the Shaw's leadership. Because there were basic human rights

791
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: that did exist when that happened in the seventies. But

792
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: to your point about things and what will happen afterwards,

793
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: it is hard in this case to imagine a regime

794
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: that if this doesn't mean that like someone else takes

795
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: over as the Mullah, right, this isn't It's not like,

796
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: oh we have another Komani. If it's somebody from the

797
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: established regime right now, that's not actually a new regime.

798
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Speaker 1: Right.

799
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Speaker 8: So if you have those someone who's truly outside the

800
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 8: system right now governing, or even a temporary disintegration of

801
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 8: governance at some level, which I think is what really

802
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 8: is concerned. A Libya, like a post Cadafi Libya or

803
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 8: a pre and post assad Syria. I mean, these are

804
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 8: these are the things that people weigh on their minds

805
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 8: when they're looking at all of this. But Clay, it

806
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 8: is hard to imagine a regime that would be worse

807
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 8: than what Iran has been suffering under since nineteen seventy nine.

808
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Speaker 8: It's hard to fathom how that could be possible.

809
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: I agree, And so that comes back to what should

810
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: we do? And hey, I bet we have a bunch

811
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Speaker 2: of Iranian listeners. If you are listening to us right now,

812
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: and you are have family in Iran, or you feel

813
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: like you are fairly well plugged in with the situation

814
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: in Iran. We would love to hear from you, because Buck,

815
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: you and I were talking about this off air before

816
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: we started the show.

817
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, do you have anybody who's.

818
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Speaker 2: Really good on Iran and that we could come on it,

819
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: bring on as a guest, and you said no, And

820
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody. The challenge is information is so

821
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: difficult to get out of Iran. It's you made the analogy.

822
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: It's somewhat similar nor it's like North Korea, Like, who's

823
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: a really great expert on North Korea? Well, it's basically

824
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: a closed you know fear.

825
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Speaker 8: You know, I'm not like a lot of people in

826
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 8: media that know much more than other because we're all

827
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Speaker 8: just reading and observing and learning. There's not a lot

828
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 8: of firsthand experience that many people bring to there. And

829
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Speaker 8: even those you'll say, oh, like CNN, I'm sure Anderson

830
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 8: Cooper's like I've been a Tehran ten times. Yeah, with handlers,

831
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 8: going to the places you were allowed to go, seeing

832
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 8: what you were allowed to see, and not able to

833
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 8: say what you wanted to say, so, you know, it

834
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Speaker 8: doesn't really Uh, there's not a lot of great voices

835
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Speaker 8: on this one in the media right now to point to.

836
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Speaker 1: Who have deep expertise.

837
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Speaker 8: But we'll see, well, we'll see if we can get

838
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 8: somebody on that's particularly astute on this We.

839
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Ask and ye shall receive a lot

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Speaker 2: of Iranian callers.

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Speaker 1: People who were born.

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Speaker 2: In Iran or have fled Iran in the wake of

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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy nine revolution that put the Ayatolas into

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Speaker 2: power are weighing in. And then we've got several callers

871
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: who want to give us their perspectives on the situation

872
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: that is currently playing out in Iran. A First Shaw

873
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: in Clarksville, Indiana. You said you've been in the US

874
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy five, but lived in Iran before that.

875
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: What are you hearing from friends and family back in Iran.

876
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: What is the best thing that the United States could

877
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: do from your perspective, I.

878
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 11: Was born in Iran. First of all, it's an honor

879
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 11: to talk to you, gentlemen. I was born in Iran,

880
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 11: immigrated to the United States, becoming a legal citizen, and

881
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 11: have been rooting for a regime change in Iran ever since.

882
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 11: Irania has made a blunder by bringing this Comani to

883
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 11: power years forty six years ago now, but now they

884
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 11: want to correct that course. And you're looking at the

885
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 11: Berlian world moment if this regime falls, and they need

886
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 11: to help. If this regime falls, not only is Iran

887
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 11: would become a a calm, cruel country, not investing in

888
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 11: terrorism and all that. But I think it's going to

889
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 11: be a seismic change in how the world views a

890
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 11: Islam and leftism, because what brought these two in power

891
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 11: was the communists, leftists organized by you know throughout the

892
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 11: Soviet years in Heres, Germany and all that, as well

893
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 11: as the Molas who had the influence within the society.

894
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 11: But Iranians have grown out of it. Those people are

895
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 11: in power because of sheer force and brutality, and Iranians

896
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 11: are peaceful people. We've been there's nineteen million Iranians back

897
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 11: home and we want to change, we cannot. It's a

898
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 11: fair states right now. And if the United States and

899
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 11: Israel can help us bring a bouty change and I'm

900
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 11: not talking about boots on the ground, but strategic strike

901
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 11: against this structure of the regime in Iran, I'm telling

902
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 11: you Iran would be a shining city on the hill

903
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 11: in the Middle East.

904
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 8: So so if that means, just to be clear, if

905
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 8: for example, and I think it's very important, and why

906
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 8: is that you establish that boots on the ground. You're

907
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 8: not asking for that, you don't want that, and we

908
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 8: you know, I think America, the lesson we learned is

909
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 8: in Iraq and Afghanistan, you can't have tenth Mountain and

910
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 8: eighty second Airborne and the Marines, the Army, all these

911
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 8: guys walking around villages trying to build them for the

912
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 8: people that live there, like that's not what we're doing, right,

913
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 8: And everyone agrees, I think that, or everyone should agree

914
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 8: that in Iran, that's not what the Iranian people want,

915
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 8: that's not what we want.

916
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: But hitting the.

917
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 8: Besiege headquarters, IRGC facilities, things like that in response to

918
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 8: I mean, they've killed hundreds, probably thousands now of protesters

919
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 8: just opening fire on them. So going after some choke points,

920
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 8: if you will, or some precise strike points against the

921
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 8: regime you want that. If Trump did that, you and

922
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 8: many Iranians, I assume that you're friends with running Americans.

923
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 8: Your friends would be clapping for that.

924
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: Is that right?

925
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 11: We will put Trump's statue in the main streets of Iran,

926
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 11: will praise him. He would do the second Cyrus, the

927
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 11: great moment for Iran, for the world history, for the

928
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 11: Jewish people, for the whole civilized world. And there is

929
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 11: a plan in place. You have ten million Iranians that fled.

930
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 11: Ninety percent of them are willing to invest in Iran.

931
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 11: They're technocrats and they're supporting Reshah Pahlavi. We want to

932
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 11: give back to Rasa Panavi, to the opportunity for Uran

933
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 11: to become a progressive nation, a pro Western nation. And

934
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 11: he has had conferences, He's got connections within the Iranian

935
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 11: community and elsewhere. He's the international figure that Uron can

936
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 11: easily become a civilized country.

937
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, thank you so much for the call.

938
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: We've got several people who went away in that was

939
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: an Indiana caller who was born in Iran. You could

940
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: hear the passion in his voice. Monsieur Monsieur in New

941
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: York City. Came to the US in nineteen seventy nine,

942
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: right about as the revolution happened, Monsieur, What was Iran

943
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: like before the revolution? So when you were in Iran

944
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: prior to nineteen seventy nine, what was the country like then?

945
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 2: What should in your mind it be like going forward?

946
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: And what can the United States do to help get

947
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: Iran to where it should be?

948
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: First of all, guys, thank you for having me on

949
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: a longtime wrestler of Rush and Rush We'll be happy

950
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: to have smiling and when you guys have done in

951
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: the past few years on this show. I came here

952
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy nine, right around January, actually exactly on

953
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: January eleventh of nineteen eighty the Less Iran in December

954
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 4: of nineteen seventy nine, after all the schools closed them

955
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: the first and foremost. All day long, I've been listening

956
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 4: to TV and radio and a lot of people maybe misinformed,

957
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: saying that the show was a bureau dictator. He killed

958
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: a lot of people. Let me correct that. If you

959
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: go back to nineteen seventy six, there's an interview of

960
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: Mike Wallace on sixty minute the Shov Iran, where he

961
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 4: basically came out and explained the situation in Iran, where

962
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: Iran was, where it is right now, and where it's

963
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: going in. One of the points that he made in

964
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 4: regards to what's going on with America, he said, in America,

965
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: the media and wish you guys know very well the media,

966
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: Hollywood TV is controlled by the Jewish Alliance. This was

967
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy six, one year to date all the

968
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: problems in Iran started. Now, the Jewish Alliance that he

969
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: was talking about, it's the same Jewish alliance that put

970
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 4: Mondani in office in New York City, the same Islamic

971
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 4: communists that took over Iran. The second point I want

972
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 4: to make is when the trouble started in Iran, it

973
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: was not a revolution. This is not a legal government

974
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 4: because the Matchless, which is the Congress of Iran, never

975
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: elected this group to come in. So this was a

976
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: propaganda to get rid of the Shaw was a very

977
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: popular figure in Iran and very powerful figured up in

978
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 4: the past seven years before he left in Iran, and

979
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: as a result, they needed to get rid of him

980
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 4: because with this regime that came in, or this occupying

981
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 4: regime that came in in Iran gave away a lot

982
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 4: of its resources to the world to rush out to

983
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: the United States, to Europe, which there's none left for

984
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 4: us to us. All the money that the l laws

985
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: made went to terrorism. And there are people living in

986
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: the streets right now in Iran.

987
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: So would you like to have the shaw back? What

988
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: would in your ideal situation, Iran look like next year

989
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: if everything could be uh? You going back in time

990
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: in the shaw is a bridge to a new, more

991
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 2: democratic Iran?

992
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: What should happen?

993
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: I think millions of people are giving us an answer.

994
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: They're saying javis shah, which means long leaves the king.

995
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 4: If if Mohammad rash the father was so bad, none

996
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 4: of these people, old, young and new to politics would

997
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: never ask for Razasha to come back. They want Ressha

998
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: to come back. Yes, And as Rasha has mentioned, he

999
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: wants to be a bridge for the people to vote

1000
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 4: and what they want. Do they want a king? Do

1001
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: they want a democracy like it is in the United

1002
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 4: States presidency. He's putting that choice on the hands of

1003
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 4: the people. You can't ask for anything more. As an

1004
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: Iranian who's been here for forty seven years. Okay, I

1005
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: can't ask for anything better than this. Thank you, all

1006
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: the thanks to the people of your own.

1007
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: Thank you for the call.

1008
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: Getting a variety of perspectives, John in Long Island say,

1009
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: you're a first generation American, but your dad came to

1010
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: the USA from Iran. What do you hear from your

1011
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: friends and family? What should America do? What should happen

1012
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: to Iran based on the conversations that you have with

1013
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: people from that country who are now here.

1014
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 12: Well, what I'm hearing is that one of the biggest

1015
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 12: problems is the military over there is really financially taken

1016
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 12: care of by the Molas and the Ali polls over there,

1017
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 12: which is what protecting the government there. So obviously they

1018
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 12: don't have a Second Amendment in Iran, so these protests

1019
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 12: go on, but they don't have any other way to

1020
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 12: defend themselves. So I mean, from my perspective, I mean,

1021
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 12: I mean, I'd look at a place like Egypt when

1022
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 12: the Muslim Brotherhood came in there and that people were

1023
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 12: running over there were basically the Ayia polls and suits

1024
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 12: in the military had to come into Austin because the

1025
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 12: people weren't having it. I wanted to know from Buck

1026
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 12: if he thinks there's any way that the military could

1027
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 12: possibly turn on the government there, because I just don't

1028
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 12: see how like the Crown Prince could come back and

1029
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 12: just have a smooth transition into having you know, elections

1030
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 12: or a referendum or something on a new government. Shouldn't

1031
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 12: there be some sort of way for the military to

1032
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 12: turn on them, because my understanding is the tool of

1033
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 12: Sun seems like he wants to take over if he

1034
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 12: flees to Moscow.

1035
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's a very look.

1036
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 8: You ask a great question, and of course you're talking

1037
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 8: about Iranian regimes. You want to talk to the CIA

1038
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 8: guy about Kho's which is fine, which is fine, as

1039
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 8: one does. I would say, one of the big you know,

1040
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 8: the biggest child historically. I've actually read some academic treatises

1041
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 8: I guess on this like books that have been like

1042
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 8: multilips or multi lips is what they call them, right,

1043
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 8: don't really get published, but kind of get published. You

1044
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 8: can find them on jstore and those kinds of places.

1045
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 8: The biggest threat to authoritarian regimes is a highly placed

1046
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 8: inside Historically, it's actually not external intervention and it's not

1047
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 8: even an uprising of the people. The biggest threat, by

1048
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 8: the numbers is, you know, the guy who's the dictator

1049
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 8: or El Capitan or El Kamandante.

1050
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: Or whatever the palace came his.

1051
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, his brother who runs the security services, like you're done,

1052
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 8: you know, and maybe he gets sent to exile or

1053
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 8: maybe he sleeps with the fishes. But that's usually the

1054
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 8: biggest one. So the question in an Iranian context is, Okay,

1055
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 8: you want the removal of this regime, but the regime

1056
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 8: is an apparatus. It's not an individual. It's not just

1057
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 8: the IRGC. It's not just the besiege who were like

1058
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 8: the street thugs. And Syria they were called the Shabiha,

1059
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 8: and in Iran they're they're the besiege who are like

1060
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 8: the Hitler youth is broughably, you know, that's not really it,

1061
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 8: but it's kind of like that. It's like the young

1062
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 8: thugs that beat people up for not obeying the Islamic Revolution, YadA, YadA.

1063
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 8: So the besiege are bad dudes. They're like a militia,

1064
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 8: and you gotta get rid of the people that run

1065
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 8: all of those things, is my point too, Right, It's

1066
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 8: not just like there's one guy who goes and then

1067
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 8: everything you get rid of the ayatola, you can't the

1068
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 8: government structure is still there. It's like the next guy

1069
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 8: comes up and it's a very similar system probably, and

1070
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 8: this is one of these.

1071
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: This is about Venezuela, right.

1072
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 8: Yes, this is the problem becomes, well, now do you

1073
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 8: want someone who's already highly placed, who's willing to dramatically

1074
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 8: change course for the regime is in a position where

1075
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 8: they're powerful enough to do so, get compliance from the

1076
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 8: existing apparatus to change course, not be killed or whatever

1077
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 8: them sell. This is where it gets very tricky because

1078
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 8: a lot of people have been not only bought into

1079
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 8: this because of their benefit from their access to the regime,

1080
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 8: but also their hands are dirtied by it, yeah, meaning

1081
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 8: that they were involved in the repression. They were, and

1082
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 8: those people get very Now, look, it is possible the

1083
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 8: people will point to like a what happened in Nazi

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Speaker 8: Germany for example, Yeah, we had trials and hanged people

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Speaker 8: after the end of the war, and we slaughtered a

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Speaker 8: whole lot of SS And I mean, you know, that's

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Speaker 8: like decimation more than decimation. But that's that's the annihilation

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Speaker 8: of the regime that wasn't just like, oh, Hitler's dead.

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Speaker 8: Everything's fine. Hitler all of his buddies, they're all dead

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Speaker 8: or we killed them that was what, or for the

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Speaker 8: rest of their life, right, but you know, but but

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Speaker 8: they all got dealt with them. Nobody was like, you

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Speaker 8: know this Hitler guy, let's give him a shot, his

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Speaker 8: chancellor of Germany.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 8: So you have a similar situation with the Iyatolas and

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Speaker 8: the Iranian regime. What's the what's the Is there a

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Speaker 8: off ramp that would work with the existing structure, and

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Speaker 8: this is just sort of general kup one o one stuff.

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Speaker 8: Not that I know about that CIA stuff. We don't know,

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Speaker 8: but kup one on one stuff. Is there an off

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Speaker 8: ramp Venezuela, we're taking that right now. We're doing that

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 8: off ramp thing of Okay, we're gonna use what's in place,

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01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 8: because we don't want Iraq getting rid of the bath party,

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Speaker 8: which was like everybody from the generals to the traffic cops,

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Speaker 8: oh sorry, you can't have a hand in this. Well

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Speaker 8: that was a terrible Yeah. So in Iran clay, it's

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Speaker 8: it's gonna be. It's tricky, but the more it is

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Speaker 8: indigenous and authentic from within the Iranian people the better,

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Speaker 8: that is for sure. That is the and the problem

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Speaker 8: we ran into an Afghanistan is we're like, hey, we

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Speaker 8: used to work with this guy back in the day

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Speaker 8: against the Soviets. Let's just like put him on a

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Speaker 8: motorcycle and like drop him over the border in the

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Speaker 8: country and you know, hey, I'm made Krzai.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, buddy? I mean that doesn't work well.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, I mean that wasn't one of the

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Speaker 2: big hopes of Iraq. Was it a mad Shalabi like

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Speaker 2: this guy sold? They yeah, sold everyone on, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: can run the country. There's actually a huge demand for

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Speaker 2: Saddam to be replaced. And the reality was obviously the

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Speaker 2: ethnic divisions, the different Muslim backgrounds and then the Kurds.

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Speaker 2: It turned into a huge disaster. I still kind of

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Speaker 2: think that the way to have solved their rack from

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Speaker 2: the get go was actually to divide the country up

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Speaker 2: into three different unique ethnic groups, give the Kurds their freedom,

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Speaker 2: and divide Iraq in some way. I know there's lots

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Speaker 2: of challenges, but that is why a lot of people

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Speaker 2: out there are like, Okay, what is the solution if

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Speaker 2: the iatola gets overthrown, what is the next step. By

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Speaker 2: the way, great calls, wide variety of perspectives. It's why

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Speaker 2: I love opening up phone lines, because there aren't a

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Speaker 2: lot of people with a great deal of expertise. When

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Speaker 2: it comes through with all of this, all right, we'll

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Speaker 2: play a couple of cuts more to close up shop.

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Speaker 2: As this story continues to play out, I would encourage

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Speaker 2: you guys to pay attention to it because I do

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Speaker 2: think it could be in a Berlin Wall type moment.

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Speaker 2: If things were able to end up with the iatola

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