1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: Up on games. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Let me put out pick up pick let me push. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 3: Out the team. 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: You want NFL experience, and this it's the show for you. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Third Law with LaVar Ary Ten as a defensive guy. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: TJ houshman Zana. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 4: I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown men in 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 4: the locker room, like I don't play with some dude 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 4: was they was putting hands on you and Blaxico Birth. 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 5: They are the same person, the same exact quarterback. 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: It's a show with three I'm the best to ever 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: do it on and off the field and no Live 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios, here's pro bowler LaVar 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Ary Tent and Silver Bowl champion Blaxico for us. 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 6: All right, all right, welcome into the show. Happy Saturday 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 6: to everybody out there. 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Happy Conference Championship Saturday. Te I hope you guys are gearing. 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 6: Up to enjoy it well, listening to us while you're 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 6: watching the games and getting ready for the games. All right, hey, 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 6: listen to use some original Louisiana hot sauce while you're 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 6: doing it, too, great day to use it, got great balance. 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 6: Pepper vinegart so wings nachos Burgers, hit a tailgate up 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 6: with that tailgate flavor of that original Louisiana hot sauce. 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 6: Make sure you buy yourself. We got a lot to 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 6: get to today. TJ's out but stretches here. I'm here. 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 6: So you got a dynamic duo. Nonetheless, and hopefully we 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 6: got cuffs coming in on our two. 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: You know how it goes. Before we get going. 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 6: Always got to check in, man, how you feeling, how 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 6: you're doing, what's going on? How's the weather there? I'm 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 6: sure it's amazing. 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: Well guess what we ain't got clear skies and sunshine? 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, what I mean? Here we are doing here? 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: We are two and a half weeks removed from Christmas, 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 5: so a little chilly, little floory's on the ground this morning. 37 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: But yet and still it is definitely football weather here 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: and up in northeast. Man, It's a beautiful Saturday and 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of great things going on, 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: a lot of good football games. I'm excited about the 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: college football playoff Ringers coming out on Sunday. Man, So 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 5: it's a it's a fun field weekend, man. So I'm blessed. 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 6: Indeed, And well it's a it's a better seemingly weekend 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 6: for me plaqueire mi alma mater. Penn State has finally 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 6: made a coaching higher and it is the name Matt Campbell. 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 6: He's from Iowa State obviously, has has done a really 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 6: really good job of coaching and coaching effectively there. 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's a. 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 6: MAC West Division champ two times, he's a MAC Coach 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 6: of the Year, he's a three time Big twelve Coach 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 6: of the Year. 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: He's a two time AP Big Twelve Coach of the Year. 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: So he uh, he has done some some great things. 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 6: He some people, you know on this side of things, uh, 56 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 6: you know, the the eastern side of things, because he's 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 6: coached out of Iowa State for so long, may not 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 6: know that his coach his playing career started. 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 6: And in Pittsburgh, he's he's a he's a Pittsburgh guy, 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 6: so he's had an opportunity to do that. He's come 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 6: with some great uh you know, some great I guess 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 6: endorsements will say of being there, from Nick Sirianni to 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 6: you know, other guys that have been very very uh 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 6: successful and there's a connection to Nick Sirianni as well. 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: So what's your take on it, plex like, what what's your. 67 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 6: You know, your first initial go at Matt Campbell being 68 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 6: named the head coach of Penn State after what was 69 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 6: seemingly considered to being tagged as a tumultuous approach to 70 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 6: you getting it done. 71 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 5: I mean when I first heard the hire, I mean 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 5: I was a little shocked. I mean, you know when 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: I first heard it, but you know the rent that 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: you know Craft went on the ad at Penn State, 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 5: I thought that they were hiring house and being with 76 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: that being said, Terry Smith was entering coach, and you know, 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: I thought that they would kind of build that program 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 5: with somebody in the house around him and keep you know, 79 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: a Penn State guy at the head coach. But Terry 80 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: Smith is still there. You know, Matt Campbell comes in. 81 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: I think it's a solid higher. You know, he has 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 5: a very respectful resume obviously, you know, going coaching at 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: the Power for School in the Big twelve. You know, 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: his best season he had back in twenty and twenty four. 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 5: He had eleven wins out of his ten year coaching 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 5: and I will state they only beat Iowa three times. 87 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: So with that being said, I want to you know, 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: I want to see how his coaching style translates to 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 5: a Power five conference and playing against better talent and 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: better programs in the Big Ten. So I think it's 91 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 5: going to be a few years before Penn States gets 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: their feet on the ground with the losing eleven recruits 93 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: on signing day now no longer going to Penn State 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 5: but following James Franklin to Blacksburg in Virginia Tech. So 95 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: I just want to see how he's going to fair 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 5: his first couple of years. I believe that some of 97 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 5: these recruits that were going to Penn State, they're going 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: to sit back, you know and evaluate how they're doing 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: or how they're looking moving forward. 100 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: But I think it's the solid hire. 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: He's seventy two and fifty five and the you know, 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: ten year coaching career at Iowa State. You know, is 103 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 5: he going to be able to get recruits in the 104 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 5: building to go to Habert Valley. You know, that's still 105 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 5: stump something that we're going to have have to see, 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: but uh, he has a solid resume. Uh he's I 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: think he's a pretty good coach, and we'll see how 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: Penn State fairs, you know, moving on because of you know, 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: right now they doesn't. They didn't get all the recruits 110 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: that they wanted to get, so I think it's gonna 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 5: take a little time to build a program back up. 112 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to fall in in line. 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 6: With with your your your school. I thought I look 114 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 6: at Campbell as a quality guy. God that's been really 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 6: approached a few times by by the league. 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: Uh uh, who's the the GM of the of the Eagles? Howie? 117 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: What how he Roseman? Yeah? Roseman? 118 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 6: Yes, uh there, I mean, you know he was looking 119 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 6: at eyeing Campbell for for the job in Philly. There 120 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 6: were other teams that were eyeing him as well. It 121 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 6: seems as though he is a quality equality coach. I 122 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 6: don't know him that you know, personally. I will meet 123 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 6: him and get to know him and get a feel 124 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 6: for who he is. But from all accounts given from 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 6: people I know that do know him, he's been spoken 126 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 6: very highly of. To me, That's the first thing I 127 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 6: want to know is is he a good man? And 128 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 6: the things that I've heard about him since he became 129 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 6: emerged as the biggest prospect to be hired. You know, 130 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 6: you start to do your diligence because well, not only 131 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 6: am I a letterman, that is vested in what the success. 132 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Of this team is. 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 6: But uniquely enough, there's only maybe two of us that 134 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 6: played there that have sons that are on the roster. 135 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 6: So my level of you know, I don't have time 136 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 6: for mock outrage. I don't have time for all the 137 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 6: shenanigans that are connected to this. This really matters to 138 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 6: me for my son's sake, you know. So it's an interesting, interesting, 139 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: I guess position for me to be in because I'm 140 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 6: so close to the university, close to the things that 141 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 6: are going on. So I've stayed. I remained quiet about, 142 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 6: you know, the coaches situation play. But I did have 143 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 6: a rant yesterday and it did go viral, and I 144 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 6: guess I'll address it, and I'll address there. I guess 145 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: there's a lot of mixed feelings about what what I 146 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 6: said in terms of the setup of the conversation was 147 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: why was it taking so long to make a higher 148 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 6: than the the audio somebody secretly recorded Pat Kraft while 149 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 6: he was addressing the senior leadership guys that were leaving 150 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 6: about the coach's position that was leaked out. 151 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: There's just there has. 152 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 6: Been a lot of a lot of things that had 153 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 6: developed in the media surrounding this coaching higher and I 154 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 6: had just kind of gotten to my my end on 155 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 6: being quiet about it, and I was just going to 156 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 6: give some perspective on it. You mentioned coach Coach Smith, 157 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 6: coach Terry Smith, and everybody loves them, you know, the 158 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 6: players love them, the fans love them, people love them. 159 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: And people tried to. 160 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 6: Get upset with me with saying that, you know, the 161 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 6: sabotage of what's taking place and the reason why things 162 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 6: are going left is because you have a person that 163 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 6: is acting now. I know, after yesterday having a million conversations, 164 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 6: after people heard what I had to say about why 165 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 6: it took so long to get a coach and why 166 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 6: there was so much propaganda coming out about the situation 167 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: and how it was being handled, and was their negligence 168 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 6: in it, was their lack of a plan and all 169 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 6: these things that were creating this narrative that was was 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 6: basically an inaccurate narrative plex And it wasn't that that 171 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 6: the ad was handling it without a plan. It was 172 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 6: he was handling it with a stack deck. You know, 173 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 6: I said on the show, I felt like it was 174 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 6: the paternal family that was making it a point to 175 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 6: as as being Jay paternal on the school board, they 176 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 6: were making it difficult for this this coaching hire to 177 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: take place. 178 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: People maybe didn't comprehend it or understand it. 179 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 6: But you got to take two to three days to 180 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 6: pull the board together. The board has to vote on it. 181 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 6: There has to be like an understanding of what they're 182 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: doing moving forward and making the decision to move forward. 183 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 6: So I made the point that there was, you know, 184 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 6: sabotage taking place, there was undermining taking place. 185 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: And I'm confident in saying it. 186 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 6: I know it, and now today I know even more 187 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 6: plex like I know that I know that it's not 188 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 6: it's not the family. It's one person acting on his 189 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 6: own and that's that's Jay Paterno and and the things 190 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 6: that he's he's doing and trying to leverage as one 191 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 6: of the board members you know, at the school. It's 192 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: just it's unfortunate that he doesn't use who he is 193 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 6: and and the name that his father built, the legacy 194 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 6: that his father built. It's a shame that he doesn't 195 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 6: use it for the good of the university. Now in 196 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 6: his mind, he may think he is, but I do 197 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 6: not believe that that is the case. And there are 198 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 6: there are other instances of him, like you know, kind 199 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: of tampering and undermining upper level sub decision makers. 200 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: So basically what your I'm what you're insinuating is that 201 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: Jay Paterno is not using his position to better the 202 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 5: football program at Penn State with this hire of Campbell. 203 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that the higher of Campbell. I'm saying 204 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 6: the higher to all together. And so now let me 205 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 6: tie let me tie back to coach Terry. Coach Terry 206 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 6: is a letterman. Coach Terry played at Penn State. Coach Terry, Yes, Pittsburgh, 207 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: he's one of us, right. 208 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 5: Yes, And that's what I was getting to when Kraft 209 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 5: got on the microphone and he made, you know, all 210 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: of these statements of he's going to bring in a 211 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 5: Penn State, Penn State guy with you know, integrity and 212 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: character and a passion for the school and passion for 213 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 5: the program. And then when you make Terry Smith the 214 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: interim coach, and I think everybody kind of thought that 215 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: it was going to be a Penn State higher, whether 216 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: it was him or Matt Ruhle or former player. Just 217 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: like you mentioned that coach Smith was a letterman and 218 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: he goes outside of the university to make this higher. 219 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: That's why I think a lot. 220 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: Of people, you know, weren't shot with the words that 221 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 5: he had to make in reference to the next head 222 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: coach at Penn State. 223 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 6: So let me give some perspective on it, because now 224 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 6: I gave you the backstory of why I came out 225 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 6: and started saying undermining and sabotaging. 226 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: And different things like that. 227 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 6: Jay Paterno does want to make Penn State great again 228 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 6: for all intensive purposes right in his mind, and his 229 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 6: approach is it's it needs to be him that cleans 230 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 6: it up, right, So so. 231 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: How does that apply to. 232 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 6: And I know we're up on a break and I 233 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 6: and I don't want to take this into the next 234 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 6: segment either. I just want to wrap it up. But 235 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 6: let me just lay it out this way for you, Plexico. 236 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 6: When when Terry Smith took over the team and did 237 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 6: the knockdown, bang up job that he did, he showed 238 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 6: that the players were with him, He showed that he 239 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 6: can't get wins and did so many positive things. 240 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: The one, the one piece of it. 241 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 6: That went wrong that I wish he could have it 242 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: back to do it over again, was he started going 243 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 6: on the field with the four h nine Joe the 244 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 6: Joe Pen. It connected him to a group of people 245 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 6: that fall in line with what Jay paterno Is is 246 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 6: pushing out there. I have no problem with with Jay 247 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 6: trying to do whatever it is legacy wise for his family, 248 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 6: no problem for his father. I have no problem with 249 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 6: you're doing it. I have a problem when it's at 250 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 6: the expense of others. And I feel like Jay manipulated 251 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: the situation by putting that on Terry Smith. You put 252 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 6: that weight on Terry Smith to carry this this uh 253 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 6: you know this, This this torch of hope to restore 254 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 6: coach paternal You can restore Coach paternal in so many 255 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 6: different ways. It does not have to play out this 256 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 6: way and continue to play out with with Penn State. 257 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 6: Penn State football, you have many, many outlets that you 258 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: can leverage to figure that out. And yet you chose 259 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 6: to leverage Coach Smith in the scenario. And now here's 260 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 6: the clarity of it. You made people are sitting there like, well, 261 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 6: what are you getting at? Here's what I'm getting at. 262 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 6: I If Terry Smith gets named the head coach of 263 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 6: the team, he becomes probably the highest paid employee in 264 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 6: the state of Pennsylvania, which makes him one of the 265 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 6: more influential, most powerful people in Pennsylvania. 266 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: He will have a. 267 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 6: Large influence over who's getting hired at strong positions. So 268 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: he was politicking to get James Franklin out of there 269 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 6: all along, And people may not be aware of that, 270 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 6: but him and another guy were politicking to get him 271 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 6: out all along, trying to sabotage Franklin all along. 272 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: Creating this fifty to fifty split. 273 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 6: With Franklin and the Paternal supporters all along. That was 274 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 6: why the whole James Franklin isn't Joe Paternal the whole 275 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 6: entire time of his tenure, there was a strong element 276 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 6: of the narrative, which it should have never been, because 277 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 6: there's no reason to compare. 278 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: A coach to a coach that's gone. 279 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 6: A former coach, you can, but not to the extent 280 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 6: of what they went to and for how long they 281 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 6: did with Coach Franklin. So now you fast forward to 282 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 6: where we're at now and you start politicking so strongly 283 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 6: for coach Smith to get the job. You know what 284 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 6: it was Ford? You know is Ford plex. This is 285 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 6: my This is to me my conclusion with all of 286 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 6: the pieces being in place. Jay paternal wanted a position 287 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 6: of leadership and it may have been athletic director. So 288 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 6: if he gets so, if Terry Smith gets the job 289 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: with the outward, the outward show a solidarity to the 290 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: four h nine, to Joe, to the Paternal family, this, 291 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 6: that and the other. He gets the job, then the 292 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 6: strong chances of leadership changes taking place is now set 293 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 6: in motion. So the sabotage, the shorting of the stock, 294 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 6: the positioning of being able to take over is now 295 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 6: in play. And it's now in session, and Jay Paterno 296 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 6: has a straight line into the AD's seat, and that 297 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 6: now they're coming for the head of the school and 298 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: they'll end up putting in the person that they want 299 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 6: at the head of the school, and you'll have a 300 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 6: trinity of the head football coach, the AD, and the 301 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: president of the school. 302 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: Now, I might have shot that fast on y'all, y'all. 303 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 6: Might not have got that, But look at it and 304 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 6: listen to it on Hey, listen to it on the 305 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 6: on the podcast, and you'll understand it. You got one 306 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 6: person acting on his own volition. He's been on the 307 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 6: board of trustees for all these years and he's been 308 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 6: trying to do all these different things that create division 309 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 6: and create you know, a separation between us as a 310 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 6: as a school community. And it was all coming to 311 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 6: a head where what his ultimate plan was, which was 312 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 6: to get back in a seat of power at the 313 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 6: school that was more powerful then where he's at and 314 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 6: direct connection to the football program. And that's what messed 315 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 6: it up for Coach Smith and my humble estimation, I believe, 316 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 6: and that is not I did not get that information 317 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 6: from anyone on at at Penn State. 318 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: That's my conclusion based off of the information. 319 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 6: You know, as you know, you go to your school, 320 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 6: you're around your school, people see you around, they talk 321 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 6: to you, You learn things that or did this and 322 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 6: that and the other. I could guarantee you if you 323 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: talk to anybody who's in the know, they would probably 324 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 6: agree with me that it was j Paterno that that 325 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 6: ended the opportunity for Terry Smith to become the head 326 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 6: coach my Mike keeps falling uh to become the head 327 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 6: coach of the next head coach of Penn State. And 328 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 6: for me, to me, that's sabotage, that's that that is 329 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 6: undermining and and it's sad because in a situation where 330 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 6: a man probably deserved the opportunity to do it. Someone 331 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 6: else else's actions and somebody else's plotting and planning actually 332 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 6: may have been the reason why he didn't get get 333 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 6: the job in the end. But I'm glad he's staying 334 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 6: on board because he is a tremendous asset to our 335 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 6: community and to our team. And you know, it would 336 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 6: be interesting to see how many guys Campbell retains and 337 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 6: works with just based off of recruiting, based off of 338 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 6: the amount of lettermen that were you know, are on 339 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 6: the staff now. It'll be interesting to see how it 340 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 6: all plays out. But I will say this, from the 341 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 6: personality that I've heard, you know, Campbell has and the 342 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 6: type of character he has, it seems as though everybody 343 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 6: that wants to stay will have a fair opportunity to 344 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 6: possibly and potentially stay in the mix with with Penn 345 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 6: State football. So we'll see how it plays out, you know, 346 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 6: We'll see how it plays out. But I had to 347 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 6: get that off my chest because I got a lot 348 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 6: of missing messages yesterday. I even got a message from 349 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 6: a paterno telling me that I was dumb. Basically, I 350 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: thought you were smarter than what you were you opened 351 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 6: your mouth, You're dumb. I think I'm pretty smart, and 352 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 6: I think I'm pretty knowledgeable on the situation as well. 353 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 6: That's why I feel confident shooting it out there to 354 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 6: the hundreds of thousands of people that are listening to 355 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 6: our show. So I feel good about it, and I 356 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 6: feel like it needed to be said because there are 357 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 6: so many false narratives. It wasn't Sexton that that was 358 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 6: sabotaging it. The king of college football. Sexton has a 359 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 6: good relationship with the program and a good relationship with 360 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 6: the ad. 361 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: It's not the agent. It wasn't. There was a lack 362 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: of a plan. This was how it played out. 363 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: This was how it played out, trying to go through 364 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 6: the process, and you know what, it turned into something 365 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 6: totally different based off of undermining propaganda and politicking, And 366 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: to me, that sucks. There's no real place for it. 367 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 6: I know it exists, but when you're someone of that 368 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 6: name and that legacy connected to an institution, you have 369 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 6: a larger responsibility not only to the community, but to 370 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 6: your family name, to yourself to handle things better than 371 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 6: what you did. So hopefully, moving forward, he'll do better. 372 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Hopefully. 373 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: Here's this segment and knows that. You know, people aren't 374 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 6: going to just sit around and let you do what 375 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 6: you want to do and say what you want to 376 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: say and act how you want to act just because 377 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 6: of your last name. It doesn't work out that way, 378 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 6: you know. It's just how life works. Yeah, well there 379 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 6: you go. Hey, this is up on Game that's Plexico Berts. 380 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 6: I'm LeVar Arrington. TJ is out today. Coming up next, 381 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 6: we're going to talk a little football, continue the football discussions. 382 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 6: There are some interesting things going on in Dallas when 383 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 6: we'll talk about it. All right, this up on Game 384 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio will be right back. Listen up y'all. 385 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: Game day rule. Yeah. 386 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 6: When you add the handcrafted tang of the original Louisiana 387 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: hot sauce to your food, it doesn't matter what day 388 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 6: it is, guys, it becomes a little more like game day. Yeah, 389 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 6: you know why because of the poor of that handcrafted 390 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 6: recipe onto whatever it. 391 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: Is you're gonna eat. 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It's hard. 431 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 6: It's hard for me to cora because you know, there 432 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 6: was a lot of great memories connected to I Got 433 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: five on It. 434 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, we was a little younger back then, you 435 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 436 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 6: Hey, while we add it, be sure to subscribe to 437 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 6: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel and you'll see our 438 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 6: best videos from all of our shows. 439 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: And don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and coming. 440 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 6: Away, let us know who's takes you like and even 441 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 6: it takes you didn't like. All right, Just search Fox 442 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 6: Sports Radio on YouTube and subscribe. I mentioned the Cowboys, Uh, 443 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 6: plex You know, they've been competitive. They have had some 444 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 6: really really high play from from Dak Prescott. Unfortunately, sadly, 445 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 6: uh you know, obviously CD Lamb gets the concussion, hits 446 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 6: it hits its head in the end zone in the game, 447 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 6: he leaves the game. It's George Pickens' time. I said 448 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 6: I believe on our show the last time we talked, 449 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: I believe George Pickens is playing better football than Ceedee Lamb. 450 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 6: And George Pickens had the opportunity to take the driver's 451 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 6: seat and definitively put the bid. Any debates about what 452 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 6: he represented to this team. It appears that he failed 453 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 6: miserably Plexico, and that you know, it just didn't look good. 454 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: He could have did more, The offense could have did more, 455 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 6: the defense could have did more. And obviously whoever came 456 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: out of that game, they raised their odds of going 457 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 6: to the playoffs exponentially, and the team that lost their 458 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 6: odds are going to the playoffs went down the same 459 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 6: way exponentially, like from like thirty forty percent down to 460 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 6: like eighteen percent chance. 461 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: Or something to that effect. Yeah, maybe even less than that. 462 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 6: Right, where do the where do the Dallas Cowboys from here? Man, 463 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 6: what what happens with them seemingly you know, crashing out 464 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 6: with what it is that you know took place in 465 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 6: this last game. 466 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I just think there's a lot of things 467 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: that you can take away, you know, from the game 468 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: on Thursday. Both teams needed to win that game to 469 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 5: you know, basically stay in the playoff hunt, you know, 470 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 5: moving on for the rest of the season. And unfortunately 471 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, I don't think that they are going 472 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: to make the playoffs, you know, after that lost to Detroit. 473 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: The other day. 474 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 5: Uh, but I will say this, I mean, Dallas Cowboys 475 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 5: got off to well three and five one start, and 476 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: me and TJ with just happened this conversation last week 477 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: all the Dallas Cowboys for real, And I said last 478 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 5: week that you know that the Cowboys go every season, 479 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 5: they win two or three games in a row and 480 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 5: then they lose that those one or two games that 481 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 5: they're supposed to win that knocks them out of the playoff. 482 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 5: And that is exactly you know what happened out the 483 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: day and you look at this team moving forward, they 484 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: don't make the playoffs. Is you know, going into the 485 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: next season, what does Jared Jones do with with Shottenham, 486 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: well he return as the head coach. 487 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: I mean everybody. 488 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 5: I think everybody saw, you know, what happened with George 489 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: Pickens with Ceedee Lamb going out and you just like 490 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: you said, you thought that George Pickens was playing better, 491 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 5: better brand of football, and then Ceedee Lambs, I disagree. 492 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: You know, I kind of think, you know, it's a 493 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 5: ball and chain with the success that those guys are happening. 494 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: It's like one hand washes the other and you just 495 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: look at, you know, how they've been performing, and uh, 496 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 5: George Pickens is leading the league and receiving yards on 497 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: slant routes. So if your defense, and if you're Dan 498 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 5: Campbell defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, what are you 499 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: going to try to do? You're gonna take away to stop, 500 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 5: You're gonna try to take away the slant route. But 501 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: you know, from a you know, George Pickens, just because 502 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 5: you know they're playing you inside technicue or they're doubling you, 503 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 5: or whatever the case may be, you still got to 504 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 5: go out there and fight. And I think that's you know, 505 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 5: some of the things that you know people are saying 506 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 5: about him, that that's what kind of got him, you know, 507 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 5: out of Pittsburgh. You know, he's kind of a he's 508 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 5: he's a long strider, uh. You know, they kind of 509 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 5: feel like he's going about his craft, you know, being lethargic, lazy. 510 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 511 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 5: You know, those are some of the words that people 512 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: are saying. And you can say that with some of 513 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: the routes that we saw him run the other day. 514 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 5: And you know, what's going to be his future with 515 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys moving forward. But you know, I just 516 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 5: think for them as a whole, for them not to 517 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: make the playoffs with this current roster that they have 518 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: and adding and adding you know, George Pickens, you know, 519 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: he's been a boost to this offense. And with CD 520 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 5: Lamb and the running game that they're having, and Dak 521 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 5: Pratscott is having an MVP you know type year, building 522 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 5: up the defense, bringing in Quinny and Kenny Clark and 523 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 5: all of these guys, and I think they've been playing 524 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 5: pretty well until last week. They give up forty three 525 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: points defensively, which I will say Jamier Gibbs is probably 526 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 5: the one of the most big bolts of running backs 527 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 5: I've seen in the last two decades. Every time he 528 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: gets his hands on the ball, he has a chance 529 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: to howl it, and that is crazy. But getting back 530 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: to the Dallas Cowboys, they give up forty three points 531 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: and it's a failure. I really believe for them to 532 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 5: not make the playoffs. It doesn't matter who the head 533 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 5: coach is. You can't make the excuse, Oh, it's Shoddy's 534 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 5: first year being a head coach, and then that's a 535 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: football league. But he's been an assistant for the last 536 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: twenty With this current roster that they have, for the 537 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys not to make the playoffs this season is 538 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: a failure. 539 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: Wow. Well, uh here's here's what I'll say. 540 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 6: Uh, man, it's it's it's one of those things where 541 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 6: it's it's a first year head coach and and he 542 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 6: he I believe he's had the offense playing out of 543 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 6: higher much higher level than what it was playing at 544 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 6: at last season. And you would have thought that with 545 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 6: the additions to the interior front. You know, everybody was, oh, 546 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 6: the defense is way better. Oh it's better without Michael Parsons. 547 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 6: Da da da da da da. And and there's been 548 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 6: such a push to kind of force feed the fact 549 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 6: that the Dallas Cowboys are good post Michael Parsons, uh 550 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 6: his tenure. And then you add in the Pickings deal, 551 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 6: and you now have two guys that have one receiver capabilities, 552 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 6: which I don't even know that's the thing anymore, the 553 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 6: whole one receiver deal. 554 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: But but it's. 555 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 6: Interesting enough about the conversation with George Dickens before I 556 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 6: give another opinion about it, the owner of the team. 557 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 6: He had an opinion about it, and well, he was 558 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 6: on one oh five point three the fan and this 559 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 6: is what he had to say. 560 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: He didn't have the game, that he's been heavy, but effort. 561 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: I would be very careful with him going there. This 562 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: guy is a is a He's explosive with his temperament. 563 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: And I say that in a positive way. So I 564 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: don't think so much it was effort, but I might not. 565 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: But I don't necessarily have a good explanation as to 566 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: why he didn't show up more. But no, I'm not 567 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: at all concerned going forward about Pickens. I would agree 568 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: with you. I thought we would have more with him 569 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: than we did. 570 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 6: I just I think that's his comments to me, Ye 571 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 6: it is it's a little like he should have showed 572 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 6: up more. I think I think if he wanted to 573 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 6: be totally real about it. He should have showed up 574 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 6: more because. 575 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: That was real about it. That was real about it. 576 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 5: When Dak was asked, you know about the picking his performance, uh, 577 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: Dak Prescott stated that, you know, with us having CD out, 578 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: I needed him to step up and make some more plays. 579 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 5: And that is from your starting quarterback. So what Jerry 580 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 5: Jones just said, he was, you know, not throwing them 581 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 5: completely under the bus. But he did acknowledge, just like 582 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 5: we and everybody that was watching the game, that there 583 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: were some plays where he didn't give effort and those 584 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 5: That's one of the things about sports. And I've always 585 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: told my kids, I said, man, listen, I don't give 586 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 5: a damn how many points you score, how many touchdown, 587 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: how many yards you get. There's one thing that people 588 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 5: should never question you when you step on a basketball court, 589 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 5: a volleyball court, a track, a football field, they should 590 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 5: never have to question your effort. And now that is 591 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 5: everybody's all. That is why Pittsburgh got rid of them 592 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 5: because of what we witnessed on Thursday. So Dak recognized it. 593 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 5: He wanted him to step up and make more plays. 594 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: Jared Jones has a mixed bag of comments. But I 595 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 5: believe that he will bounce back from it. He will 596 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: come out this weekend, play harder, make make some more plays, 597 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 5: and all of these things will be put the rest. 598 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 5: But you cannot say that he was out there give 599 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 5: a maximum effort based off of what we saw. 600 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 6: All right, Well, we'll see how it all plays out. 601 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 6: Sounds like Jerry Jones still has faith and his team. 602 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 6: I mean, let's see how Let's see how that works out. 603 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Is a tang. 604 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 6: Well, we'll see how it plays out. But let's get 605 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 6: an update from well, you know what, Illo. 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It's up on 682 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 6: game and oh wow, now we're gonna throw some We're 683 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 6: gonna throw some of that out there. 684 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 2: How are we gonna throw some. 685 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 6: Of that, uh that good Christmas holiday music out there. 686 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it is the holiday season. 687 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 6: I hope you guys are enjoying that and getting ready 688 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 6: for it in a great way. 689 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 690 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 6: I mentioned we got cuffs the Legend coming on in 691 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 6: an hour two. We'll talk some basketball. Lebron James was 692 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 6: super excited about his street coming to it, and then 693 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 6: we'll we'll talk. 694 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: About that, but first let's talk about talk. We're gonna 695 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: do it. Let's talk about the Washington Commanders plex. 696 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 697 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 6: Jaydon Daniels looks as though he's he's getting healthy enough 698 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 6: to return for the game against the Vikings. Is it 699 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 6: too little too late for it for your commanders to 700 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 6: be able to climb back that way this playoff race? 701 00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: Don't do that. 702 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 5: Don't do that, your commander, what you're talking about? Listen 703 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 5: and wrap it up, dan Quinn. I mean, let's be honest. 704 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 5: You're you're three and nine football team. Jaydeon Daniels has 705 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 5: basically been the only bright spot, uh you know, on 706 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 5: the on this team for the last couple of years, 707 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 5: except for my guy Bobby Wagner. This season that he's 708 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 5: having has been absolutely spectacular. One of my favorite players. 709 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 5: But you know, you you're three and nine in the 710 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 5: in the NFCS, But you gotta respect it if you're 711 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 5: Jaydon Daniels. Uh, you know, just like Joe Burrow said 712 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, he like, hey, man, I'm 713 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 5: a football player. If I'm healthy, I'm going to get 714 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 5: out there and fight with my guys. So I have 715 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 5: a lot of respect for it. And he's gonna he's 716 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 5: gonna go out there and play with this team. 717 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 2: So you think if he yeah, I mean, what are 718 00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: you games? 719 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 6: There's five games left? They are I mean they not. 720 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 6: They would not only have to win out, but they 721 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 6: would need a whole lot of help going to the playoffs. Yeah, 722 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 6: just to even have a chance to make it as 723 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 6: a wild card. It would be a long shot. They 724 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 6: would need help at this point. I guess I would 725 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 6: ask you, and knowing that you know they have three 726 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 6: two three, I mean the rest of their games after 727 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 6: the vikings are all divisional games. They're all divisional games. Like, 728 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 6: is it is it worth it to take the risk? 729 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 6: He's been hurt pretty much all season, and and he 730 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 6: got hurt last season. Like he's he's a slighter frame guy, 731 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 6: He's been getting getting banged up. You don't feel like 732 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 6: you should just shut him down. Let Mario to just 733 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 6: just carry out the rest of it the rest of 734 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 6: the way. 735 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, if I'm dan Quinn in this in 736 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 5: this Washington organization, I'm shutting the Jaydon James down for 737 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 5: the rest of the season because throughout this season we've 738 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 5: seen that this football team cannot compete in the NFC off. 739 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 5: Jayden Danes is not under center, and he's healthy, so 740 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 5: focus on him to you know, getting healthy and coming 741 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 5: back next year and trying to win the NFC East. 742 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 5: But we just know right now that this football team, 743 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 5: they're not very good without them. And I would if 744 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 5: I was dan Quinn, I wouldn't play Jayden Dames anymore 745 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 5: for the rest of the season because, I mean, he's 746 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 5: just basically going out and getting more stats. I mean, 747 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 5: there's no reason for him to go out and play. 748 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 5: Even if they go undefeated for the rest of the season, 749 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 5: they'll they'll. 750 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: End up at eight and nine. 751 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 5: They're still gonna they're gonna remain under five hundred regardless 752 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 5: of whatever happens. And just like you said, the rest 753 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 5: of their games are all divisional opponents. Which they may be. 754 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 5: They may they may win one if they're playing the Giants. 755 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 5: So with that being said, I wouldn't play him if 756 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 5: I'm dan Quinn and this Harris group and this organization 757 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 5: just sit him on the side line and focus on 758 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 5: next season. 759 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 760 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 6: But that does basically, I mean you gave up on 761 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 6: the season, right, Like, how how does that? And that's 762 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 6: not tanking because you're not going to get. 763 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: No, no, it's not. It's not tanking. 764 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 5: But you're put a franchise player in a bad situation 765 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 5: to get get hurt. 766 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 6: More, are you putting them in a bad situation with 767 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 6: the fan base or with his teammates If you're shut 768 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 6: him down for the year knowing that he can play, 769 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 6: like like for. 770 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 5: Instance, if he's not available, then you have you don't 771 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 5: have a football team, correct, So the number one thing 772 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 5: should be his health, not about what the fans think. 773 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: M hmm. 774 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 6: Okay, well, I guess we're gonna I guess we're gonna 775 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 6: find out what the Jaydon Daniels impact is with a 776 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 6: team that will probably will miss the playoffs. He's going 777 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 6: to play against the Vikings. So that's plexico Burrs. I'm 778 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 6: LeVar Arrington Man, this is up on Game. It's Fox 779 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 6: Sports Radio and yeah, Hour two is coming at you 780 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 6: right away. 781 00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 2: Stay tuned.