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Speaker 1: I see this debate all the time. You're no longer Mike.

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Speaker 1: Oh here, Michael, until we get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, going back, you said something that bothered me, you know,

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Speaker 2: ruffling by feathers.

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Speaker 3: Scientifically we are we are not normal.

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Speaker 1: Absurd both go to jail. It is extremely over I

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Speaker 1: think this is crazy. I just I don't have any words.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were better than this.

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Speaker 2: There's many things that ruffle Mike feathers.

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Speaker 1: Let's get ready and roun.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Ruffled Feathers, the debate show

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Speaker 2: where we get under each other's skin, and today we

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Speaker 2: are talking about sleep. How much of it do you

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Speaker 2: really need? And to join me in doing this. We've

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Speaker 2: got Josh Woods, We've got Mike Ford. They are gonna

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Speaker 2: go at it. Gentlemen, you have the floor, Mike sleeping

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Speaker 2: eight hours? Do you really need it?

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Speaker 4: I just think it's just outrageously too much sleep. I

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Speaker 4: mean me, personally, we get twenty four hours in the day.

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Speaker 4: I personally don't want to spend a third of my

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Speaker 4: day sleeping. I don't think I don't think that that's

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Speaker 4: you know, that's that's very beneficial.

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Speaker 1: You know Okay, So would you consider yourself a premier athlete? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you say that you exert a ton of energy.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, I've been doing in my whole life.

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Speaker 1: So you don't think that you need to rest, recovery,

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Speaker 1: regenerate all of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: So this is where I take the thinking out. I

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Speaker 4: know that you know for going on thirty years now

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Speaker 4: that I don't consistently sleep for eight hours. I usually

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Speaker 4: get in between four to six. You hit your round

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Speaker 4: cycle within h I want to say it's sixty to

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Speaker 4: ninety minutes, So I mean I hit about what three

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Speaker 4: roalm cycles. I'm good to go. My brain's restored. I'm

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Speaker 4: a premier athlete, so I'm mentally strong. I don't have

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Speaker 4: much stress because I know what I'm doing with my job.

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Speaker 4: I know how to do my job, and I perform

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Speaker 4: it well. So these are things that you know benefits

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Speaker 4: of sleep. I necessarily don't feel as if I need

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Speaker 4: because mentally I'm strong long enough.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So mentally you can make your muscles regenerate that

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Speaker 1: the same ones that are tearing in the weight room

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Speaker 1: every day that happens during sleep. No, mentally you can

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get your brain power back together for

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Speaker 1: each install every day. Mentally, you can do all of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have been doing it. I've been doing it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm going on eight years in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So just never mind the science.

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Speaker 4: I would say, you know, mentally, like I say I'm strong,

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Speaker 4: then I would say physically recovering. That comes from, you know,

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Speaker 4: the things inside of the facility. So I mean, what

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Speaker 4: are you what are your points? You're saying in sleep

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Speaker 4: in a third of your your day away, you know,

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Speaker 4: a third of your life. You know, because when you're

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Speaker 4: seventy five, you only live for fifty years.

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Speaker 1: If you're sleep at eight, No, you live seventy five.

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Speaker 3: No, you slept.

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Speaker 1: You needed that sleep in order to get each to

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Speaker 1: the next day or the next year or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You weren't living. You were sleeping for twenty five years because.

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Speaker 1: Your brain's so active, the hardest still pumping. What are

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Speaker 1: you talking about. You're not living, that's in coination.

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Speaker 3: You're unconscious. You were sleep sleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a part of your body that is still

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Speaker 1: conscious technically.

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Speaker 3: A part yeah, not fully.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Michael, I'm gonna call you Michael. You're no

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Speaker 1: longer Mike. You're a Michael, until we get to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of this. Okay, let's go, dude. You have to sleep,

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Speaker 1: like you have to sleep. God rested on the seventh day. Okay,

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Speaker 1: like you have like rest is important if you just go, go, go,

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Speaker 1: go go. Eventually the cup is empty, the tank is empty,

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Speaker 1: you like, at some point you have to replenish it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we refilled it with you know, a two hour nap,

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Speaker 4: not eight hours of consistent sleep.

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Speaker 3: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense. Our bodies work, our bodies working

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Speaker 1: around the sun.

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Speaker 4: So how did you make it to the NFL You

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Speaker 4: slept for eight hours every day? Or did you did

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Speaker 4: you put it in work or did you get up

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Speaker 4: and work? Have you been told all your life the

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Speaker 4: early bird gets the.

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Speaker 3: Worm, right?

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Speaker 4: You know you have to outwork your competition absolutely. You

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Speaker 4: know you work when your competition is sleep, right, not necessarily.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's what we've been told, you know. Coming

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Speaker 1: Either you're getting better you're getting worse.

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Speaker 4: One saying that, So where is your your advantage if

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Speaker 4: you're sleeping and I'm working.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I would say that my advantage is

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Speaker 1: the simple fact that I'm sleeping, recuperating while you're up

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Speaker 1: doing god knows what, and then we come in at

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Speaker 1: the same time. I'm fully I'm ready to go. I

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Speaker 1: got no crust in my eyes. I'm ready, I'm roaring,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. I'm in already, I'm already in

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Speaker 4: So so I want I want the people out there

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Speaker 4: to really really think about this, to become a professional.

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Speaker 4: It's ten thousand reps, right, yeah, so this gives me

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Speaker 4: a chance to become a professional before him. Correct if

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Speaker 4: I'm not sleeping as much as him, so therefore I

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Speaker 4: am getting a better advantage by not arresting.

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Speaker 1: That's that's completely that's completely false, because there's no telling

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing with my other sixteen hours. You're not working.

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Speaker 1: Just because you're up longer doesn't mean you're working for

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Speaker 3: But I am. I'm working not all of the hours,

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Speaker 3: but I'm getting more work put in than you are.

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Speaker 1: You can't say that I have more time on hand. No, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's say you're just using two hours scrolling on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Well that's for someone who's not a professional. We're both

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Speaker 1: As professional, I can tell you right now, as a professional,

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Speaker 1: I'm scrolling on Instagram at times. But what I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you is I need sleep. There's no way I got

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Speaker 1: an or Ring. Okay, I'm competing with the Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: competing with the guys every day because I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: see my readiness score above ninety. I'm trying to see

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Speaker 1: my recovery. I want to see my heart rate drop.

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Speaker 1: I want to see all of those things because I

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Speaker 1: wanted the best next day for me.

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Speaker 3: So here's my question for you.

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Speaker 1: Today starts last night. So that's what I believe my.

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Speaker 3: Question for you. You were an or Ring.

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Speaker 4: Right, sure do you've slept eight hours with that or

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Speaker 4: ring on this told you it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't good sleep?

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Speaker 1: I sure have, I sure have.

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Speaker 4: So I mean there are hours guaranteed like that is Beneficialick,

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Speaker 4: you could be in bed sleeping for eight hours and

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Speaker 4: never hit around cycle.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, I mean there are a lot of factors

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Speaker 4: There's no point in me laying down and resting for

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Speaker 4: eight hours. I'll rest when i'm tired.

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Speaker 1: Just never mind the science. There's science behind it, and.

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Speaker 3: You are just RAM cycles. I'm hitting them, they're recovering.

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Speaker 1: How much rimsleep are you supposed to get?

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Speaker 3: Do you know you're supposed to get? What? Four to six?

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Speaker 1: Four to six cycle cycles?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And scientifically, scientifically, scientifically we are we are not normal.

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Speaker 1: Four is absurd, like four is absurd. Four hours I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm willing to die on that hill. Four

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Speaker 1: is absurd. Four hours of sleep, four.

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Speaker 3: Hours of sleep.

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Speaker 4: Four hours of sleep hits me at about two to

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Speaker 4: three RAM cycles.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't have any words, dude, I thought

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Speaker 1: you were better than this.

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Speaker 3: So no words means dumb chat.

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Speaker 1: No chance, no chance that.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be in the hands of our fan base.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys on the dream team with Josh or

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Speaker 2: are you getting up early to chase your dreams with Mike?

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Speaker 2: You let us know in the comments we're putting out

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Speaker 2: this poll. But thank you guys so much for joining

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Speaker 2: us on today's episode of Ruffled Feathers.

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Speaker 1: Go get some go, get some sleep, do whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 2: Thank y'all.