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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal Hell.

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Speaker 2: That for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm for.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 2: Edith State is that?

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Speaker 4: Woo whoo?

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Speaker 1: And them and tie Dan Riversley. We have a special

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Speaker 1: treat on our final episode of this here Master's week

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Speaker 1: a true master.

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Speaker 2: Oh how does it know? What the final of what?

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm doing math inm I had. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it's our final episode. It's our final episode of any.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, true master of his craft, somebody that

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Speaker 1: we've come to know. On Saturday afternoons and evenings, Jason

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Speaker 1: Bennetti is going to join us. One of our favorite

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Speaker 1: commentators in the business, of course of Fox Sports. He's

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Speaker 1: a voice of the Detroit Tigers. I've heard him call gosh,

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Speaker 1: so many sports I can't even count them all up.

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Speaker 1: I am pleased to have him on this broadcast today

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Speaker 1: to talk through what it is like to do his

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I am very excited. I'm great, I am enthusiastic.

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything to add about, like my life

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Speaker 2: for college football at the moment, I haven't seen anything

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Speaker 2: particularly huge news wise or anything like that. I'm very

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Speaker 2: excited to get to the Adjason portion of this episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna right at the top. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say it seems very difficult to be a good, likable,

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Speaker 2: thorough play by play announcer in any sport, but especially

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Speaker 2: college football, with how much names change, how much rules change,

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Speaker 2: how much conference has changed. There's just a lot on

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Speaker 2: the plate of these broadcasters, and so to come across

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Speaker 2: as like not taking yourself so seriously, not trying to

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Speaker 2: in a likable, interesting, compelling way is just something that

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Speaker 2: Jason does. And so pretty excited to ask him about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one of the things I want to

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Speaker 1: He's I think a little bit better at it given

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Speaker 1: the nature of his work. There is so much information

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Speaker 1: really about any sport, whether it's baseball with what he's

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Speaker 1: doing with the Tigers, whether it's pro football, whether it's

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Speaker 1: college football, you name it, right, you can drown yourself

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Speaker 1: in statistics. How do you find that balance? How do

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Speaker 1: you know when to give the audience stats? How do

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Speaker 1: what you're experiencing in the moment?

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Speaker 2: Right, and there's a producer for that, right that has

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Speaker 2: the graphics at hand, and you know the other's communication.

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Speaker 2: But you're right absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Finding that balance, I think is really the true art

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Speaker 1: him about that. We've got a whole list of questions

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Speaker 1: for Jason. Please that we're finally able to get him

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Speaker 1: all right, Dan, we are pleased to welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Welcome the show, my friend. How are you that?

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Speaker 3: I'm great? I'm great. Thank you for that walk up.

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Speaker 3: The Electricians Championship is never going to leave my resume

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Speaker 1: At the risk of taking this interview off the rails immediately.

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Speaker 1: What was the preparation like for the Electrician Championship maybe

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Speaker 3: It's actually yeah, for college football. We have this enormous

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Speaker 4: We'll give you everything.

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Speaker 2: Have you retained that knowledge? Are you? Just like I'm

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Speaker 3: at one point we're going to break. I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: What's after that experience? What's the most advanced level of

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Speaker 4: Literally?

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Speaker 3: Nothing, okay looking Yeah, like literally, there's a button in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if we zoom out for a second, kind

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Speaker 1: of on that same track, you have clearly worked with

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Speaker 3: So it's a great question, and I you know, first

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Speaker 2: What is what is something that could make your job easier,

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Speaker 3: When like in newspapers, when there are fewer editors, you're

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to say, right now, Greg Sanky, you

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that the cost is like completely exorbitant,

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Speaker 3: but I also know that, you know me saying this,

438
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Speaker 3: There're gonna be people in the industry who are like,

439
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: I believe he said that, but it's true and it's real,

440
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: and it does make the job more difficult. So this

441
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: is more me saying for especially for like for younger announcers.

442
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: Growing up in the industry, I had the ability to

443
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: do games with a truck and with a crew, and

444
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 3: there's this whole team atmosphere. Our crew for Fox. We

445
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: have twelve people, fifteen people including camera folks, twenty maybe

446
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Speaker 3: including the tech crew who travel together. We have Thanksgiving together,

447
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 3: and we love doing this with each other, and the

448
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: team atmosphere gets lost a little bit when you're not

449
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: all on the road together.

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Speaker 1: Jason, I'm always interested in the preparation angle, given what

451
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: you do. We've had Adam Amin on the show before.

452
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: He talked about his Adobe Illustrator templates and how he

453
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: goes about preparing for a game. I know what Dan

454
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Speaker 1: and I do, obviously. I think the nature of your

455
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: work is several orders of magnitude more difficult. What's your process?

456
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Speaker 1: How do you get ready for a college football Saturday?

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think prep is prep, So I don't know

458
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: about the orders of magnitude. You guys seem to know

459
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Speaker 3: everything that's happening all the time in college football. I'm

460
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 3: responsible for one game, but I would say this, I

461
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: have a board and I have my system, right, so

462
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: I build in its Microsoft Word really super advanced. But

463
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: I build all the names and numbers off the too

464
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: deep and off of PFF. Actually I use their depth

465
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Speaker 3: chart and snapcount and all of that. So I make

466
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: sure that I have everybody, and then I just I

467
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: build that skeleton and then I actually have gone full

468
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: Apple pencil nowadays, and I handwrite everything with an Apple

469
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Speaker 3: pencil into my boards. So if we have a team

470
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: a second time, I can erase, and I can subtract,

471
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: and I can add and all that stuff. But my

472
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Speaker 3: you know, I watch at the very least the team's

473
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 3: last game. But you know, through PFF and clips and

474
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Speaker 3: things like that, I watch. You know, you can click

475
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: now and watch every I formation that a team has

476
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Speaker 3: run and do it in twenty minutes. So I tend

477
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Speaker 3: to take my cues from the analysts. So like Brock,

478
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: you know Hill early in the week, and this is

479
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: huge for our crew. On Monday, we all get together

480
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Speaker 3: and Brock sort of downloads what he's got about the teams,

481
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Speaker 3: and then I'll have watched as well, and Alison Williams

482
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Speaker 3: two and so we kind of just put ourselves all

483
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Speaker 3: on one track to take a look at like where

484
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: we think this might go. And then the coaches meetings

485
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: with players are so valuable. So generally we'll do the

486
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Speaker 3: road team on like Thursday on zoom and then the

487
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Speaker 3: home team on Friday in person. We love doing both

488
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: in person, but sometimes the schedule doesn't work out, but

489
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Speaker 3: we have time with the head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator,

490
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Speaker 3: and a couple players as well, and just getting to

491
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Speaker 3: talk to them as humans about like very specific things

492
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: that can really like and live in a show, because

493
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Speaker 3: you our job is to know something more than a

494
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: fan does who's seen literally every snap maybe over the

495
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Speaker 3: last ten years, and so if we don't get that

496
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Speaker 3: individual time, it's harder to do that. But like our

497
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: whole crew loves asking like extremely specific questions to the

498
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Speaker 3: point of making fun of each other for it. But

499
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Speaker 3: we you know, remember Kansas State beat Oklahoma three years

500
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Speaker 3: ago on the road early in the year.

501
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Speaker 2: Kyler Thompson, Adrian Martinez, Adrian Martine, is it host Skyler?

502
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Speaker 3: Okay Martinez, and so I don't even know how it happened,

503
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: but we got to asking a question of Colin Klein,

504
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: then the offensive coordinator, a question about a play that

505
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 3: he ran in college, and he gave the name of

506
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: the play to us and Brock and I like, I

507
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: think Allison too. We all wrote it down and suddenly

508
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: Adrian Martinez runs in for a sort of decisive touchdown

509
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: and brocos I think that was the play he ran

510
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: against West Virginia like fifteen years ago, and he goes,

511
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Speaker 3: what was the name of the play, and he knew

512
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 3: we both had it on our boards and we just

513
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: spat it out and it's Kismet.

514
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Speaker 4: Right.

515
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Speaker 3: That's very fortunate. But those are the moments where you say, man,

516
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Speaker 3: I'm really glad we have a great, curious team on

517
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: our hands.

518
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Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk a little bit more about

519
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Speaker 2: coaches meetings. Are there coaches who have been especially helpful

520
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: and forthright? You mentioned Colin Klin, so obviously that's a

521
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: great example people. I think for a long time people

522
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: would think, like, why would these coaches give secrets or

523
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: insights into their game plan, into their team and potentially

524
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: spoil something during the broadcast, or like why do these

525
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: broadcasters need to know, like this is highly sensitive? Why

526
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: would they risk some getting something out? I'd love for

527
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: you if you could go through the value of the

528
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: insight coaches give you, because it seems from my perspective

529
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: that like, you're telling a really nice story about the

530
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: team when you have that kind of insight. And so

531
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Speaker 2: who are those names that were like actually understand the

532
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: value in helping you do your job to the best

533
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Speaker 2: of your ability.

534
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Speaker 3: You're going to be surprised at my answer to this,

535
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: But my answer is most coaches are really pretty good

536
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: about it. If oh, okay, if you do your prep.

537
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Speaker 3: And that's where somebody like Brock is just an unbelievably

538
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: great partner because he comes in with like, Okay, I

539
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: saw on tape. You guys are great on fourth and one.

540
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 4: Why right?

541
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Speaker 3: It's not hey, give me give me a note on

542
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: all your guys. Right, that's that's a waste of coaches

543
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: time in a lot of ways. But if you come

544
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: in with real specify and you say, hey, I noticed this,

545
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Speaker 3: Why did you do this? What did you say on

546
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: the sideline to that quarterback like that? I think that's

547
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: the actual story of what the game might be and

548
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 3: where their program is. And I think if you do

549
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: that level of prep, you're you're just going to be

550
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: more locked in.

551
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Speaker 2: And also it's a sign of respect too though, right.

552
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: That's right, But you also don't have to like, I'm

553
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: not the guy who's going to go in there and say, okay,

554
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: like really, with these injuries, what's the like is he

555
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: playing like that? That is, you can ask questions that

556
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: get you to that answer that are more elegant questions

557
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: that at least you can like you can work something

558
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: out of Like you can ask Lance Leipold, like what

559
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Speaker 3: why does D two matter?

560
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: Right?

561
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: But like if you say something like what are you

562
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: looking for from a coach when you think about hiring

563
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: them if they're not a D one coach?

564
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Speaker 4: Right? And he gave us this.

565
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Answer about like how he wants a guy who will

566
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Speaker 3: ride on a bus from Wisconsin to the East coast.

567
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Speaker 3: And I think that tells you so much more about

568
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: the ethos of what we're watching, and then you can

569
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Speaker 3: apply that to what you're seeing.

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Speaker 4: Right.

571
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Speaker 3: That Kansas team the year he said that to us

572
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: was the little engine that could. They played TCU in

573
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: that undefeated versus undefeated noon game and it was It

574
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: was fascinating. But I also got yelled at by our

575
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: producer because I asked specifically where they stopped, like what

576
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: hotel they stopped at on the way, because I've been

577
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: around Bill Walton, right, And so Bill Walton when we

578
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: were at Maui, he asked Mark Feu the cross streets

579
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Speaker 3: of the church that Mark's dad ran, uh huh when

580
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: he was a kid. But I love that stuff because

581
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: it's the detail that will make a story shine. That

582
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that after a two hour meeting, the producer

583
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Speaker 3: isn't going to say, Jason, after you asked the question, Dan,

584
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Speaker 3: I think.

585
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Speaker 1: This is where you need to bring up your Oregon

586
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: covered bridge tale that you told.

587
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that? That was unbelievable? That was you

588
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: right that you had a commercial bumper talking about the

589
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: fifty four covered bridges in the state of Oregon. I

590
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: was flabbergant. I live for that kind of thing. We're

591
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: just like very specific nuggets about places, whether it's food,

592
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: whether it's about architecture, whether it's about topography. I've watched

593
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Speaker 2: a lot of Oregon games in the last thirty years,

594
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: however many I'm forty one, so maybe it's more than that.

595
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Speaker 2: Where did the covered bridge thing come from? And where

596
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: does that covered bridge thing come from? For any school

597
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Speaker 2: in any state?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

599
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Speaker 3: It was our ad, Brian's Wolinski, like he just and

600
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Speaker 3: Gilbert Zipaida. There are two ads like they they go

601
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: out and they shoot stuff, but they have ideas during

602
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: the week and I don't you're I don't remember how

603
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: it came up, but covered bridges became an inside joke

604
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: in our production meeting. Okay, a couple weeks before I

605
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: don't remember how it came up. I don't remember why

606
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: we went there, but the next Oregon game we had,

607
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: they just they had.

608
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Speaker 4: Like all this footage of me.

609
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Of course, why wouldn't you?

610
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Speaker 3: And I was like, why do you have all these

611
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Speaker 3: covered bridges? And so we looked up how many there

612
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: were and it was like that was a whole. That

613
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: was a whole, like joyous burst of energy for our crew,

614
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: and I'm glad you got something from it because we

615
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: loved it.

616
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Speaker 2: Well, it's also to be fair, Like you watch a

617
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: game that's shot in Seattle, You're going to see Pike's Market, right.

618
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: You see a game that's in La you're going to

619
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Speaker 2: see the shot of like the Santa Monica Pear. And

620
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: so there is something fun, especially in college towns and

621
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Speaker 2: in areas away from cities, in very specific places you're like, oh,

622
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Speaker 2: I had no idea that you know, the Grateful Dead

623
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: played their thirteenth show in wherever, Like there is fun

624
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: to be had.

625
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Speaker 4: That's totally it.

626
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: And that's why, like Major League Baseball is such a

627
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: great conduit for that, because we're in a new city

628
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: every three days. And I know you love food like

629
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: I love food too, So I kind of eat my

630
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: way through cities. But that is really the joy of

631
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: doing what we do, and it's what we all missed,

632
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: I think during the pandemic is just getting to know

633
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: that there are truly other places. Like Dylan Dingler for

634
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: the Tigers. He's a young catcher who went to Ohio State.

635
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: He played for a high school in Ohio, Jackson High School,

636
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: and their nickname is the Polar Bears, And I just

637
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: want to know everything, Like I want to go right

638
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: now to see the fifteen foot Polar Bear in the

639
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: atrium in their high school. But you know, I'm probably

640
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: not going to make it there over the course of time.

641
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: But you know, I do think like I do think

642
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: at heart all of us who travel like this, even

643
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: basketball officials and football officials, like I think we all

644
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: do kind of just want to see the world.

645
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Speaker 1: Jason, You're especially good, in my opinion, at making us

646
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Speaker 1: feel like we're in the moment as we're watching a

647
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: game with you. I'm curious, what is the trick to

648
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: balancing the prep and the stats and all the nuggets

649
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: that you dig up when you're getting ready for a

650
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: weekend versus what you're seeing with your own eyes. On

651
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: the field, because you know, if you go a little

652
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: bit too heavy in the stats and nuggets department, you're

653
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: listing things that comes across as dry. Maybe you're missing

654
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: the obvious that's in front of you. On the flip side,

655
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Speaker 1: you're watching the game. If you are presenting what you

656
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: are viewing without any context, completely in a vacuum, you

657
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: may not be given the audience more reason to invest

658
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: in the broadcast. How do you balance those two things?

659
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I've learned that. First of all,

660
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: if you listen to my stuff in college or even

661
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: probably like the first five to seven years out of college,

662
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: I was way more interested in just like saying the

663
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: right thing, the perfect thing at the perfect moment, and

664
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: just nothing else right. There was no emotion attached to it.

665
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: And what I've realized is number One, this is a

666
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: real investment for human beings. And the reason we watch

667
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: shows like Severance or White Lotus or whatever is to

668
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: care about the characters and to have them really matter.

669
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: And so we we're the soundtrack, but we're also the dialogue.

670
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 4: We're everything right, We're.

671
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: They are doing the actions, but we're everything sonically that

672
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: goes along with it. And if you watch the severance

673
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: finale with the sound off for some reason, you say

674
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: you could just like hear the dialogue, but you got

675
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: rid of all the music and you got rid of

676
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: all the sounds, it would feel very hollow. And I

677
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: do think like you have to have both. We have

678
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: to create characters because again, like you watch cars and

679
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: like the first scene with Lightning McQueen is him talking

680
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: to himself, No Lightning McQueen, but you do know that

681
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: at the end of that thirty seconds he's like hungry

682
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: and he's a little scatterbrained, but he's driven pardon the pun,

683
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: but like we don't know anything about him, and then

684
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: we care about him immediately. It sort of hit me like,

685
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, seven eight years ago, why don't we

686
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: do that, Like why don't we try to make those

687
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: moments matter? But we also have to kind of be

688
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: the symbol crash too, and so if all the details

689
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: matter like that in a cinematic way, we have to

690
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: be that. We're a little bit like cover bands as announcers,

691
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: like it is the same song, it's third and six.

692
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 3: We know third and six. We know the out route

693
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: that goes short of the stick, but can you make

694
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: it sound, and can you make it feel different? And

695
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: can you also flesh out why that character like why

696
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: Tes Johnson specifically crawling for that first down matters above

697
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: every other receiver you've ever seen do that before. We're

698
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: almost at like a critical mass. And beyond of sporting

699
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: events on TV. We've seen it all, we've heard it all.

700
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: We all sound alike. Allegedly, can you do something interesting enough,

701
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: like can you cover living on a prayer in a

702
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: way that literally nobody ever else has? And that's a real.

703
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Challenge, Jason, since specificity seems to be a theme of

704
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: this conversation. Look, we're all about the same age. I

705
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: think it's fair to ask this for the first forty

706
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: years of our lives.

707
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: You're gonna ask about colonoscopes. Where is this going?

708
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going there, I promise you first forty years

709
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: of our lives. The stoppage of play at the end

710
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: of the second quarter and fourth quarter has been known

711
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: as a two minute warning, but college football adopts it

712
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: suddenly two minute timeout. Can't call it a two minute warning.

713
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I am not clear as to why. Maybe you are.

714
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: Were you forced to reprogram your brain in the booth

715
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: the way Dan and I were forced to reprogram from AFAR.

716
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 4: I just like, why are we having that discussion?

717
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 3: Like, guys, there is so much there's so much more

718
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: that can be done with the world.

719
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: Can we please? So I like, I don't.

720
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say it and not be involved

721
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: in the discourse because if I say it in a

722
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: wrye way, then people.

723
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: Are like, oh, Ben Eddie hates it.

724
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: And if I say it too staunchly, like it is

725
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: the two minute time out, darn it, that means I've

726
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: drank the kool aid. I feel nothing about it. It's

727
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: complete anhidonia for me about all of that. I just

728
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: want to move on. I would like to do something

729
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: else with my time. And I cannot believe there were

730
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: meetings about it.

731
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: Were there meetings about it?

732
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm certain there were meetings, Okay, I have no idea

733
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: who was in them. I don't know when they happened.

734
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm actually not sure they happened, but I am sure

735
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: they happened.

736
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: Sure, I okay, So I'm gonna take that and run

737
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: with it. Not the two minute timeout thing, but so

738
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: there are moments, many moments during a college football game,

739
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: during an NFL game, whatever where people are particularly worked up,

740
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: and that is when there is a penalty, that is

741
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: when there is a rules interpretation. That is when there

742
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: is a official review. That is when somebody may or

743
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: may not have crossed a plane, be it first down

744
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: or end zone. How that is the most delicate time

745
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: because you don't want to come across as like this

746
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: is definitely that because you're not an official, you're not

747
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: trained in that way. But you also have to be

748
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: super educated on every single tiny element. What is your

749
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: strategy for coming across as like, I'm curious as to

750
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. This is what I kind of see,

751
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: but who knows.

752
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I there's nothing I kick myself more for than

753
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: if I miss a rule, Right, I hate it. I

754
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: live with it for days and days and days because

755
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: I really do fancy myself as somebody who knows the

756
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: rule book and studies it. But I you know you're

757
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: gonna miss one or two, and it's just it's just

758
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: gutting because it's our job to know better.

759
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: It really is.

760
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: Even in the weirdest situation, like if we're doing that

761
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: Central Michigan Oklahoma state game from twenty sixteen, right with

762
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: the extra down or whatever happened there. I want to

763
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: get that right. A lot of people would say, well,

764
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: so few people would get that right. Well, you just

765
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 3: defined what a bell curve is. When Mike Turrico nails

766
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: the Seahawks Packers alternating possession ball from Monday Night Football

767
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: from way a long time ago, like sixteen seventeen years ago,

768
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: when he nails that, that sticks in my mind. That

769
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: makes him one of the best. So it's a separator,

770
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: but it's also like you have to take it slowly,

771
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: even if you feel like you want to say something

772
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: right away. We have a television truck with a number

773
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: of looks. We have a lot of people who are

774
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: well versed in the game, and so what I've trained

775
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: myself over the course of time is if I'm not

776
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: one hundred percent certain immediately even in what I'm seeing,

777
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: I'll hit talk back in the truck and say, what

778
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: do you guys have on that? Because they have a

779
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: monitor wall right, we have six seven cameras that you

780
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 3: can have a different look that we haven't seen yet,

781
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: or it'll be hey, will you ask Pereira real fast?

782
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: If I have this right, I.

783
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: Will go for it when I know it and I

784
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: should go for it, and we all should know the

785
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: rules at every time. But the fail save for me,

786
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: is we have a group around us. Let's use the group.

787
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: Let's do it right. If you're two seconds late and

788
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: you're right, that's way better than saying something out of

789
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: pocket and having to double back and you get it

790
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: all wrong and then like there's a narrative out there

791
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 3: that you've created. I mean when you see stuff like that,

792
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: when I like, there was a there was a play

793
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: with the White Sox and Rangers a couple of years

794
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: ago with a plate block situation, and we just had

795
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: not had disseminated to us the rule interpretation that Major

796
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: League Baseball was going to use right that that when

797
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: the runner comes around third, that's when the catchers set

798
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: up matters. Most now, I think it's nonsensical, and I

799
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: told the league that, but that was the interpretation they're

800
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: going to use. We cleaned it up later, but like,

801
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: I need to know right then, and if I miss it,

802
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm creating a toxic, mangled situation for the audience. We

803
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: do have that power, so we need to know the

804
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: rule book badly.

805
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: I'm wondering because I've heard this with comedians before, and

806
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: this is all interrelated to everything we're talking about. How

807
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: long did it take you to find Jason Bennetti's voice?

808
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: Comedians talk about them doing like impersonations of Chris Rock

809
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: or Jerry Seinfeld or Louis c k or somebody that

810
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: they admire because they don't know any better. It takes

811
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: time to find out, like what your personality is, even

812
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: as a straight play by play guy or gal. How

813
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: long did it take you? Have you found it yet?

814
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: And who were those initial people where you're like, I'm

815
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: going to pull a little bit of this from that person.

816
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull a little bit from that person, and

817
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

818
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: My friends will tell you that it doesn't take very

819
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: much for me to do a Sean McDonough impression, of course,

820
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: Like you don't have to really tease it out of me.

821
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: And he has been a major influence sonically for me

822
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 3: because I just I love the timber of his voice.

823
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: Third and two, you know that sort of thing. I

824
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 3: like the sharpness of the back end of it. I

825
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: he the way like we did the Alamo Bowl a

826
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: couple of years my crew did and it was like

827
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: the Valero Alimobol and all of those words are great

828
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: McDonough words. Oh yeah, oh, killer, Valero, Alamo, you know that.

829
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: Sort of thing.

830
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: They like land, But sounds are what do it for me?

831
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't have you ever heard the voice of the

832
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: Colorado Buffalo's Mark Johnson, the radio voice?

833
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: Oh?

834
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: Probably not.

835
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: So he was a professor of mine at Syracuse. He

836
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: was the voice of the Orange when I was in

837
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: school for a year, okay, and he has the deepest

838
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: voice in human in history. So he would be like

839
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: third down to two, here come the Orange to the

840
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: lie two to the left, one of the right, And

841
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: I was like, how do you get that far down right?

842
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: Like?

843
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: So me doing that impression of him helped me find

844
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: the resonance in my own voice, because like, in order

845
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: to talk like this, you got to be like, hey,

846
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: you know how you doing?

847
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 4: Good to see you. I have a nickelbackset in my car.

848
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: We tried to get him to say like the most

849
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: ridiculous stuff in class in his voice, and I just

850
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: found that I really like sounds, and so I think

851
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: like the influence of comedians and the way they set

852
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: things up with sound. John Oliver was on Comedians in

853
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: cars getting coffee with Seinfeld and he said during the episode,

854
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I say things because the combination of

855
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: the words is funny, and my wife doesn't understand I

856
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: actually don't just mean it. And I've never felt more

857
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: seen in daily life than then because the sound combination

858
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: with the word is what makes the laughter yea. And

859
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: so those musicals, yeah, yeah, it's it. Honestly, it is music.

860
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: A friend of mine texted me during the NCAA tournament

861
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: on radio and he was like, I can tell you

862
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: love radio, but you're also just basically singing, like it's

863
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: just melodic the way you do it, and I, you know,

864
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 3: that's the way a lot of people do radio, because

865
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: it's just one thought connecting to the other, one note

866
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: into the other. But yeah, it's I think, you know,

867
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: I think I have a pretty secure understanding of what

868
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: works best for me and to the core who I am.

869
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: And again, I've mentioned him a couple times, but Bill

870
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: Walton was such a marvelous influence on me to just

871
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: be yourself and just go be a human being and

872
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: go navigate the world with color and the beauty of

873
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: the world. And you know, watching him operate and watching

874
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 3: him be himself was really important. For me to get

875
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: to that next level of where I am and understanding

876
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: I think what I want to be.

877
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: Was there anything else you took away from here? I

878
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: don't know how much you were around Bill Walton, but

879
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: I mean he's just an all time favorite for me

880
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: because I mean, I'm from the West Coast. I love

881
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: West Coast sports. Was there anything where you come away with,

882
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: not not necessarily like the life philosophy that you took

883
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: away from him, where you're just like you think maybe

884
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: that it's just sort of like him putting something out

885
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: on the air that like, oh, this is my persona.

886
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: It seems in every regard that's just who Bill Walton was.

887
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: Was there anything else lasting? Do you have a good

888
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: like Walton's story?

889
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: So the last couple of years of his life, the

890
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 3: NBA flew me out to his house in San Diego

891
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: to do games from his living room. We did NBA

892
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 3: games for Walton's World from his home off a monitor,

893
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: and so I got to stay at his house. A

894
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: number of people were very close with him, and you

895
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: know when they do games out there, they so I'm

896
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: not the only person. I don't mean to say I

897
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: had this unique relationship, but I loved Bill him deeply,

898
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: in part because he really understood me. I feel like,

899
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: you know, there have been times as a person with

900
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: a disability, you know, like I kind of feel like

901
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm operating in a different world of rules. And there

902
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: would be times during games I would talk about, you know,

903
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray coming back from his knee injury when we

904
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: did a Nuggets game, and Bill would say, what do

905
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: you know about physical challenges? And I just smiled so

906
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: heartily because he'd look at me and kind of wink,

907
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: but then also move on right, you know, like it

908
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: didn't even happen. But he was one of the most

909
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: loving people immediately.

910
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: You know.

911
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: We did the Maui Invitational in twenty eighteen and I

912
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: had never met him, and he didn't want to talk

913
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: before we hit the air. Then we did six games

914
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: together in three days, and you know, I don't want

915
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: to share exactly what he said to me before the

916
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: last two games, but for him to be as kind

917
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 3: as he was after four games with somebody and really

918
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: like advocate for me as a person and want to

919
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: work with me and realize that we had something that

920
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: he could probe and proad and just mess around with it.

921
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 3: Was one of the most I guess it was one

922
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: of the most loving partnerships I've ever had, and it

923
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: was in a very short window that it happened. And

924
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: I I know, you know some people you're like, oh,

925
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: they're friends with everybody, and you say it in like

926
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: this derogatory way. With Bill Walton, I'm just really glad

927
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: to have felt the love that he gave to everybody.

928
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: I know.

929
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: I'm not the only person who Bill made feel, you know, worthwhile,

930
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: or made feel like I was the only person in

931
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: the room.

932
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 4: But I also know.

933
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: What he has done for so many people in the

934
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: world and how important he is just in how vivid

935
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: he lived and and how colorfully he saw the world

936
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: that I'm just really honored to have been a part

937
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: of it.

938
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: Wow, that's you know it all, It all sort of

939
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: rings true from Afar. So I'm tremendously glad to hear

940
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: your your first person experience. I guess let's sort of

941
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: bring this full circle because you've been more than generous

942
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: with your time. We started this talking about the Electrician

943
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: World Championships. Now, do you have a bucket list? Alt

944
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: Sport broadcast Like there's the Microsoft Excel championships, right, Ty,

945
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: that's something that exists.

946
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: It is something that exists. It is something that I

947
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: have watched. It is wonderful.

948
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 4: Wait you watched it? Watch it?

949
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: Come on, it's twenty twenty five. Man, you can watch anything.

950
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: Oh, come on.

951
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: Control Z controls E like a lot of concatenation, a

952
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: lot of yeah you know v lookups.

953
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: It's a in there, dude, is it a spelling bee thing?

954
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Is there an alt broadcast where you'd say to yourself,

955
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: that's if I could put my stamp on that, that

956
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: would that would truly put a cap on my resume.

957
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: So the spelling Bee would be my answer in the

958
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: in okay quasi sports realm. But I also would love

959
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: to either host a game show or a specifically Survivor

960
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: when Jeff Probst is done.

961
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: M m.

962
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: They do such a great job creating characters on that show.

963
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: But I grew up an enormous like enormous game show fan. Same,

964
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: so like if I could host a game show, like

965
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: I think Bradley from The British Chase, Yes, one of

966
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: is one of the great drama builders of our time,

967
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: and I like I would love to not like like

968
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 3: love to host a game show.

969
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god. See now somebody else is gonna get

970
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: a job hosting a game show over me.

971
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 4: You're getting dude, We're gonna host a game show together.

972
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: We will do it together now blocked me.

973
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: You're gonna text me after this podcast is over.

974
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: We're going to develop a game show and we're gonna

975
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: sell it, and we're gonna alternate hosting it.

976
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: I I can't tell you how quickly I will leave

977
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: Tie behind to host a game show. I feel zero

978
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: emotional attachment to Tie if and when I mean I.

979
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: I've talked about this before. I've been a contestant on

980
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: four game shows, growing up as a kid, all the

981
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: way up to like my late twenties. I love game shows.

982
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: I come from game show stock. My mom is a

983
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: two time game show champion, won what show? Password? She's

984
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: actually in my house right now. Password plus and Pyramid

985
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: she was on? Which was the one? Which of those

986
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: two was the one with a celebrity like teammate?

987
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 4: So they Pyramid? They both did.

988
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Password Plus you had a celebrity teammate as well,

989
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: but it probably was Betty White.

990
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: Pyramid, You're very close.

991
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: It was Florence Henderson.

992
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: From my mom Oh, then it was Pyramid. She was

993
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: Pyramid all the time.

994
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she appeared on one of the game shows

995
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: with me when I was a kid. There was a

996
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: Mark Summers hosted game show called Pick Your Brain. But again, Jason,

997
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: we're going to offline this and.

998
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: Uh, you're gonna offline it and you're gonna shoulder me out.

999
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: That's what's gonna happen. Ty.

1000
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: You can, uh, you can do our spreadsheets with all

1001
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: your Microsoft ex sell I can set up the microphones,

1002
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: is what I can. Yes, absolutely beautiful, Jason Bennetti, Fox Sports.

1003
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: If there's anything else you want to touch on, Ty,

1004
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: if you want any specifics to the McDonough impression, now's

1005
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: your chance.

1006
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Dan has been workshopping his McDonough, so

1007
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: if you have any tie that that would probably be

1008
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: more helpful for him than me. Also, if there are

1009
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: any other impressions that you have, we would love to

1010
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: hear them. That was really all I had left because

1011
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: I have heard your McDonough before and it's spot on.

1012
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: It's the best.

1013
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: The most esoteric one probably is Droopy Dog. You know

1014
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: the cartoons Droopy Dog. So every now and then, in

1015
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: a rain delay, I'll go into somebody else's booth and

1016
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: say said, it's raining, It's perfect.

1017
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, my my McDonough is just he speaks sometimes as

1018
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: if he wants you to hear him from across the room.

1019
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 2: If it even he's not talking to you, like Bob's

1020
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: taking somebody's yogurt from the frist, you know that he is.

1021
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: He's speaking. He's articulating something so that you know you

1022
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: will hear him even if he's not trying to speak

1023
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: to you. I don't have any like the broadcaster impressions

1024
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: are always the most fun because everybody sort of has

1025
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: an idea of like a specific thing. Broadcasters lean on.

1026
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: Like I always liked doing We have a friend who

1027
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: does a better version. But Jesse Palmer is big on you.

1028
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: You like learn, you learn announcer ticks, right that Like

1029
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: Jesse Bomber always loves and loved coordinator names. Cordinator names

1030
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: Third in California. Yeah, he has his like third in California.

1031
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: He was like when you come to Eugene and you

1032
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: take on a Nick Aliotti defense, right, or like if

1033
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: you're challenging yourself against a Gusmuson offense. I don't know

1034
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: why it's Midwestern he's Canadian, but he loves branding offenses

1035
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: and defenses with the coordinator and I always appreciated that.

1036
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: I like, I like that.

1037
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: But in like, you know, very specific like fast food realm,

1038
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: Like you go to a Joe Anderson Burger King and

1039
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: you know what you're gonna.

1040
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: You know what you're getting on third down when you're

1041
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: taking on a Philip Montgomery off Yeah, totally. Yeah, Oh

1042
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: my god.

1043
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: That's a good hook. You just have to have a

1044
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: little It's all micro impressions.

1045
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: It's micro impressions. Yes, you don't like the tenor doesn't

1046
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: have to be exact, but if you nail the rhythm

1047
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: and the tendency, I think you can go along.

1048
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: With my My brock Heward is simply just wow.

1049
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: Why it's perfect. I mean you have, you know, the proximity.

1050
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: It is an advantage, but like, but you you only.

1051
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: Need one word. It's like that tune. You need one

1052
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: note and that Yes.

1053
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: Oh.

1054
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: Jason Benetti, Fox Sports Voice of the Detroit Tigers. By

1055
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: the way, if you're Tigers fan, I'm sure he's doing

1056
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: a killer job. I don't get the local Tigers broadcast,

1057
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: but pay attention. He's the best.

1058
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1059
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: Jason, thank you.

1060
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

1061
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: WHOA there we go.

1062
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: Jason Bennetti, Fox Sports voice of the Tigers has called

1063
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: Electrician Championships. I was so pleased I was able to

1064
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: dig that one up and ask him about it. That

1065
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: was just a ton of fun.

1066
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: Man.

1067
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: It's a ton of fun to listen to somebody who

1068
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: is on the top of his game and so plugged

1069
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: into this world that we talk about a couple times

1070
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: a week. Like, it was awesome to hear that perspective.

1071
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: You know what I think about all the time. I mean,

1072
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: I think about announcers all the time because I'm watching

1073
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: sports all the time. But I think about if their

1074
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: voice goes that's it, yeah, right, like if there if

1075
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: their voicebox, if they've got a sore throat and they

1076
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: lose the ability to have that like that that booming presence,

1077
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: you can get through it. There are I'm sure there

1078
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: are sprays, and there are tea's, and there are all

1079
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: sorts of you know, solutions, but uh, it's it's really

1080
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: impressive to have that kind of physical voice call. I mean, look,

1081
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: we're talking about and this is not unique to Jasonbody

1082
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: calls Tigers games all baseball season long. Just in the

1083
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: way that you know, Mike Breen calls Knicks games all

1084
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 2: season long, and on top of that does national and

1085
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 2: a friend Adam Amin does Bulls games, and Joe Davis

1086
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: does Dodger games, and they're an invaluable number of reps

1087
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: for these guys to get comfortable behind the mic and

1088
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 2: to be working with Cruz and the person sitting next

1089
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: to them. Yeah, but it's it's its own It's not sports,

1090
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: but it's its own endurance activity of just being able

1091
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 2: to stay lively and you know, stay present with the team.

1092
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: And it's not even just saying like if Jason's prepping

1093
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: for an Oregon Washington game, he's not just prepping for

1094
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: Oregon Washington. He needs to know about everything going on

1095
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: with both of their seasons and what's going on with

1096
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: the Big ten. Almost said Pac twelve with you know,

1097
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: what had happened with different players in the year, Like

1098
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of surrounding stuff to become an instant

1099
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: authority on all things Oregon and Washington that week, and

1100
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: it's it's always very impressive to me.

1101
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to ask him about

1102
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: that we just didn't have the time. I couldn't fit it.

1103
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: In a couple of years ago, he did three Bowl

1104
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: games in the span of nine days, and sandwiched in

1105
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: between also a Chicago Bulls game, and so wild.

1106
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know about the Bulls game in there.

1107
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wanted to ask him how long we

1108
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: talked about the prep? How long does it take you

1109
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: to complete the prep on your end before you have

1110
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: coaches meetings and things like that, And when you've got

1111
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: a crazy stretch of games like that, how is your

1112
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: life for nine days just not constant research? Right, like

1113
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: you're studying for the bar? How do yeah, how do

1114
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: you have any downtime when you're doing that stretch of games?

1115
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: It seems impossible to me that you wouldn't just be studying.

1116
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: Now.

1117
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: I guess you get better at it, and it's kind

1118
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: of its own art altogether, but it just seems like

1119
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: when you're in that line of work, when you have

1120
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: crazy back to backs like that game stacked on top

1121
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: of one another, multiple sports, keeping it all straight, I

1122
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: would imagine is quite difficult.

1123
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and look, you get better at it, you

1124
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: get I mean, it's harder to fake things as a

1125
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: play by play announcer because the expectation is that you

1126
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: can't fake things. You need to know everything. You need

1127
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: to know the rhythm of the game and the season

1128
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: and everything. We can fake things. Ty hasn't known a

1129
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: single Auburn player since nineteen ninety eight. No, he just

1130
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: gets by on feel.

1131
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

1132
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: But no, you're You're absolutely right. I wanted to ask

1133
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: more about all sports. Oh yeah, the Electricians Championships. I

1134
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: don't know. Do you have a favorite? Is Excel your

1135
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: number one? Have you ever watched the OHO when they

1136
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: do the like darts and all that.

1137
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know that the Excel thing was real. I

1138
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: thought it was just a meme on the internet, and

1139
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: then I looked it up and I saw was real,

1140
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I've watched a little bit of it

1141
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: and how they've presented it. To say that I'm really

1142
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: into it would probably be a stretch, But I am

1143
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: definitely curious about some of these altcasts and the weird

1144
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: sports that are broadcast on them, Excel being for me,

1145
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: the most notable of them.

1146
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: I watched last year.

1147
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: I have a number of them.

1148
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: I watched last year. I don't know if it was

1149
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: trials or it was a pre Olympic competition. Have you

1150
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: watched speed climbing? Speed climbing, They're insane? Is it is

1151
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: my favorite sport that I'd never seen before last June

1152
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: or something I could not I was locked into my couch. Yeah,

1153
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: and I found myself like I think, I'm I think

1154
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,479
Speaker 2: I'm just rolling with this Moroccan guy. Like nobody's beaten

1155
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: this Moroccan guy. And I have no idea if it

1156
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: was Morocco or not. But you instantly like you're like,

1157
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: oh my, he's not gonna go sub five seconds. He

1158
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: went some five seconds. I've been watching the sport for

1159
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: thirty eight minutes, and I have very strong, nuanced thoughts

1160
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: about all of these speed climbers. And so I love

1161
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: what the the timber Championships with all the lumberjacks. Oh yeah, oh,

1162
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: you can't get enough of that. The log rolling.

1163
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: Man, if you've ever wopping and sawing, if you've ever

1164
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: watched something like that in a bar after the game's over,

1165
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: when the TVs are still going and you just get

1166
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: whatever late night programming follows. Yeah, that's a good time, man,

1167
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: when you get the whole bar into it. Oh, that's

1168
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: a good time.

1169
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: You get at darts, you get some arm wrestling going,

1170
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: you get some the cornhole championships, the darts.

1171
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: I love all. Let me tell you something about that. Okay,

1172
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: Cornhole is the one sport, one game, one thing that

1173
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: I have seen on those AULT casts that I am

1174
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: fairly confident I could play at a semi pro level.

1175
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: What do you think is preventing this? I mean life,

1176
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean how much of your life can get it away?

1177
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: You're up at four thirty am. Naturally you could put

1178
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: in the unseen hours in your backyard. There is literally

1179
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: not that you could do it in cold weather and

1180
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: warm weather. You could count for cross breezes, you could

1181
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: do all of these things. I think it would be

1182
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: a profound waste of time. But if you really believe

1183
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: in yourself that you could get on the OCHO once

1184
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: a year, who am I to tell you not to.

1185
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: There are two things I think I could do exceedingly

1186
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: well at.

1187
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1188
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: The first is cornhole. Yeah, I am going to be

1189
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: here on record saying I'm very good at this. And

1190
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: if anybody knows of a tournament I could get in,

1191
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: I am down. I would need to practice a little bit, Okay,

1192
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to get in on that.

1193
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: What separates you from your average backyard cornhole duffer.

1194
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm just good. I don't know what to tell you, man,

1195
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm good at it.

1196
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like Larry David saying he could be the

1197
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: Jets offensive coordinator. A little bit like that. He's like,

1198
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: people love my plays a little bit. Yeah, okay, a

1199
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: little bit like George Castanio to be the announcer. They're

1200
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: the same person, by the way, Case Stanz on Larry David.

1201
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm aware.

1202
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1203
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: And the second thing is mini golf.

1204
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you have opportunities, tie, you can enter tournaments.

1205
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: I do have opportunities. I almost entered the US Open

1206
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: of putt putt golf a couple of years ago.

1207
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: Like you would have to enter in qualifying rounds of

1208
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 2: some kind.

1209
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: There is a there is a mini golf course in

1210
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: the valley here that hosted the US Open that I

1211
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: could have gotten in as like a local participant without

1212
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: having to qualify. It would have cost to Oh why

1213
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: didn't you? Because it was super cold. It was like

1214
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: the first if.

1215
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: You're not built for it, tie, maybe not for competition.

1216
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: It was like twenty two degrees. I was like, ah,

1217
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: it's not worth You're a fair weather putter. I am

1218
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 2: a fairweather putter. Okay, those are the two things.

1219
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: Do you have an alt sport that you feel like

1220
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: you could do really well at?

1221
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: No? But i'll tell you this, and I discovered this

1222
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: after the fact, and I'm sorry I did. A guy

1223
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: I know was on the O Show, oh for one

1224
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: of the alt sports championships. So a guy I played

1225
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: ten with shout out Brett Morris Karzan ended up placing

1226
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: second nationally in the National Papa Shot competition. Really Ocho.

1227
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: You can look it up. It's on YouTube. He's six', ten.

1228
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: So he just has to reach out and basically drop it.

1229
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: In it was MORE i don't know.

1230
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: WHAT i don't know if that's an advantage or disadvantage

1231
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: because you're sort of screwing up like an arc of some. Kind,

1232
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: obviously it's just a speed, thing so like long arms

1233
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: could like slow you down potentially because it's a speed

1234
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: you got to collect the ball and be shooting. Constantly

1235
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: but he was just he was Very he's like a

1236
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: super adept doubles, player so his like his hands are

1237
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: already crazy fast and he's very. Tall and, YEAH i

1238
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: had no idea and THEN i saw. IT i was

1239
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: like flipping through The North Shore, record the local newspaper,

1240
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: here and there was an article about his performance on NATIONAL.

1241
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Tv and so he's The John eisner Of Papa. Shots?

1242
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: Isn'ter? Yes, absolutely and great tennis player and great At Papa.

1243
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Shot he did it like on a. Lark there was

1244
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: a regional In, chicago he dominated it and was invited

1245
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: to somewhere for the national. Tournament came in.

1246
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: Second it could just be false, CONFIDENCE i guess on my,

1247
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: side Maybe i'm, just you, know like the joke about

1248
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: guys landing. Planes Maybe i'm JUST i don't, know dealing

1249
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: with false confidence. Here BUT i feel LIKE i could

1250
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: equit myself, well if nothing, more IF i were in

1251
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: one of those, contents.

1252
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: You'd have to throw a lot of. Bags you really

1253
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: probably need. TO i think you're thinking about yourself as

1254
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: like the best of all the. Cookouts you go to

1255
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: the backyard, barbecue WHICH i, Am but when the lights are,

1256
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: brightest you haven't pushed.

1257
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,479
Speaker 1: YOURSELF i, KNOW i know.

1258
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: You're avoiding competition in the. COLD i JUST i want

1259
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: to see you face down adversity. Time that's WHAT i.

1260
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: Want fair. Enough by the, way speaking of, this, yes

1261
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: shout out to eight year Old Caspian, oh whose father

1262
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: reached out to us on social media and then through

1263
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: email AFTER i asked him to do. So being won

1264
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: our bracket. Challenge he. DEFEATED i don't even know how

1265
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: many of her bawlers were in this. POOL i have

1266
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: to go back and, Check, caspy and. Congratulations we will

1267
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: send your dad a coupon so you can get a

1268
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: shirt and some solid verbal gear and wear it probably to.

1269
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: School congratulations on winning the bracket. Pool you beat out

1270
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: Both dan AND. I Both dan AND i did well

1271
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: in the ninetieth percent. Tile, WELL i finished twenty. FIFTH

1272
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: i think you finished a little bit ahead of me.

1273
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: Nineteenth we had a bunch of herballers in on. That

1274
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: so shout out to a little man for doing a

1275
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: good job and winning the bracket.

1276
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: Pool, yeah, absolutely great.

1277
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Job big thanks to our guest of, Honor Jason bennetti

1278
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: From Fox, sports From Detroit, tigers from a whole host

1279
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: of other. Places we appreciate his. Insight we'll have to

1280
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: have him back again. Soon of, course as you are

1281
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: watching games this coming season On, saturdays you Hear Jason,

1282
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: Bennetti you'll, SAY i know that. Guy he's pretty, cool

1283
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: he's on the. Show i'll leave it there so good

1284
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: for that guy with, There, danrews for, Myself Tie. Hildebrand

1285
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: thank you so much for, download if for listening play

1286
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: along at. Home we'll see y'all next.

1287
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: Week today Song peace m