1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, an American woman sets a teen USA record 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: in Paris. They give her her medal, and then they 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: give her an invoice for five hundred and sixty five dollars. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to this special episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Now, 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: I think I described that correctly. The voice was not 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: for the metal, but for something else that Haley Badden 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: did in the race. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Yes, apparently she went mistakenly through a lane that was 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: dedicated for taking on food or drink or having some 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: sort of mechanical issue. So the judges reviewed the footage 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: and saw that even though she went down the lane, 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: she didn't eat anything and she didn't fix anything, so 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: she was fine. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: So the thank goodness, she wasn't disqualified. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: She went and I didn't really we were learning so 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: much about rules of a lot of these sports, and 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: in this mountain racing, mountain bike racing, the race that 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: she was in, Yes, you could be disqualified for some 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: like that. So we've been talking about dramas and points 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: and scoring and protests. It was happening in mountain bike 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: and even though it didn't get as much attention, it 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: was going on. 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what we should ask the young 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: woman who actually won the silver medal, Haley Batten, twenty 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: five years old, and congratulations Haley. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: You're coming to us from Spain. 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'm in Gerona, Spain right now, preparing for 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: World Championships. 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, help us understand this? You preparing for You 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: should have been preparing for the Olympics the past four years. 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Now you're preparing for something else already. Is this just 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: the schedule for you? I guess world class mountain bikers. 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it's crazy how you invest so many 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: years in preparation for one day, one hour and a half. 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 5: But yeah, no, pretty quickly. 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: We still have a whole World Cup calendar and World 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: Championships events coming up, so yeah, it's you know, we 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: race for our factory teams as well and for you know, 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: our nations you know at THEIST championship events. So yeah, 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: the racing must go on for sure. 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like you're having fun while you're 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: doing it. 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: Tell me, can you tell us how you celebrated your 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: silver metal victory and really, you know, breaking that barrier 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: that TJ just mentioned you this was the highest ever 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: finished for an American in this particular sport, so what 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: an incredible feed not just a metal but a record. 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it is. 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy when you put it that way, 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: for sure. I I mean, everything's been a whirlwind for 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 4: the past week. I'd say, you know, you start the race, 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: there's so much focus and preparation, you know, mental and 53 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 4: physical to get to that start line and then to 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: execute the day with you know, all the excitement, energy, so. 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: Much going on in the race. 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: And then you finish and pretty quickly, you know, I 57 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: had awards ceremony, anti doping, you rushed off to media. 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: You're running all over the place and it's hard to 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: even process you know what happened when you cross the 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 4: finish line. 61 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 5: But you know, it was really cool to go to 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 5: the Team USA house. 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 4: I have in my family, my coach, all these people involved, 64 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: and you know, the excitement around the Olympics for Team 65 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: USA is huge, right, It's not just an athlete stream, 66 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: but it's really a childhood dream. So there's a lot 67 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 4: of energy and Team USA does it better than else 68 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: anybody else. I really believe, like it was really really 69 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: cool to be part of that. 70 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Well, yes, congratulations, you are a part of that. You 71 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: add it to that metal count. So congratulations, And we 72 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: were asking because it's funny, we're waiting on Haley to 73 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: come back and get a Heroes welcome. You're not going 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: to be home with that silver medal for a while, 75 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: because you can on vacation. You went to Paris and 76 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: now you're there. When will you actually set foot back 77 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: in the US. 78 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so probably like the first week of September actually, 79 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: So I've got a home there wins month, Yeah, to 80 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: prepare for World Championships in Andorra, and then right after 81 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: that race, I have a couple of days to pack 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: up my bags. I've been based here in Girona between 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: all the races, and yeah, then I go back to 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: Santa Cruz, California to be back with my family, which 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: will be really nice. 86 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: So nice, the silver medal can can finally come home 87 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: back to the United States. 88 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 5: It's heavy too, right, It's not easy to lug around. 89 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it's heavy, but it's it's worth the wait. 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Right, What was it like for you to have that 91 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: moment of glory realizing you won silver? But then how 92 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: quickly were you slapped with this fine and and how 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: are you feeling about that? Were you concerned it could 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: be an even harsher penalty. Give us a sense of 95 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: what that moment was like for you. 96 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my gosh, no, you're bringing it back for sure. 97 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: I mean you cross the finish line, there's all this 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: energy like I did it, you know, like, oh my gosh. 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: And then you're pretty quickly, you know, you finish, people 100 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 5: are yelling at you, like to go through. 101 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: Media and to get in line. You know, all these 102 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: people are asking questions. So you know, first I get 103 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: the media questions of oh, how is the race, like 104 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: how do you feel? And then all of a sudden, 105 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: I'm going down the line and somebody's like, oh, you know, 106 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: you know you did this thing and the look that, 107 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: and I'm like just saying, like, what are you talking about? 108 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: You know, I was honestly in shock. I had no 109 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: idea what was going on, and and they're like, you know, 110 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: I mean a lot of it is you know, it 111 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: is media. You know, they're getting excited about something, and 112 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: they're definitely you know, building it up a bit. They 113 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: you know, they told me people would protest, but I've 114 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: talked to both Jenny and Puck, so nobody actually wanted 115 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: to protest. So yeah, it was definitely a lot of 116 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: slap in the face for sure after the race, and 117 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: you're just like kind of shocked about like one, you know, 118 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 4: I'm never an athlete to try and ever take a shortcut, 119 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: you know, to win a race. You know, that's not 120 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: who I am. That's not what I want to do. 121 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: So to feel you know, one questioning, oh gosh, did 122 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: I do something wrong? You know, but to still hold 123 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: your head high was definitely a bit tricky. But no, 124 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you know, these things 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: happen mound bike racing. I don't This isn't my first 126 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: mound bike race. I've been racing since I was like 127 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: nine years old. So we do a lot of World 128 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: Cup races, we have eighty year and these yeah, the 129 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 4: rules are there. 130 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 5: And it happens. You know, this happens a lot in racing. 131 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: And the feed zone's always been like a tricky area, 132 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: you know, and when you're in the heat of the race, 133 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: and I think they announced that rule, you know, in 134 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 4: the days leading up, but when you're racing, you know, 135 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: you just you're in the moment you're going, you're getting 136 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: from point A to point B, and no, I respect 137 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: the rule and you know, I am you know, if 138 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: they need to find me for it, for doing something 139 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: just to keep you know, the racing, you know, in 140 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 4: the order that it needs to be. 141 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 5: I'll respect that and I'll take it for sure. 142 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: But can you tell during the race though I think 143 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: this happened on the next to last lap. You can 144 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong on that. But it happened. 145 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: But when it happened, did you in the moment think 146 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: that there was a questionable thing you had done or 147 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: a rule you had broken? 148 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: No? 149 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: No, Like I said, I finished the race and I 150 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: had no idea what they were talking about. I was like, 151 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 4: oh my god, did I in the last lap not 152 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: take a bottle or something like that? Like I said, 153 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: the feed zones are They're the same way at every 154 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: World's Cup. It's like this. You know, one lane is 155 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: to the left, one lane to the right, and so yeah, 156 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: I mean it was just I was just getting to 157 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: the finish line as fast as I could. 158 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: That's weird to think that that that they said there 159 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: was an issue. You couldn't think of anywhere in the 160 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: race where it might have even been a question. You 161 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't even think back to that. That's amazing that, Yeah, And. 162 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: The wild thing is if you had grabbed a power 163 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: bar or something like that, it wouldn't have been an issue, right. 164 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I had, if somebody had thrown something at me, 165 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: it probably wouldn't have been an issue. You know. It's 166 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: like a physio but like, yeah, like my physio had 167 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: already gone to the finish line to give me a 168 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: bottle at the finish line, so yeah, crazy, wow, Wow, 169 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: it's not a mistake, right, like it is and I 170 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: own that. You know, when you're in the heat of 171 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: the race and you're focus on one thing, and if 172 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: you know, if you you know, we take bottles every lap, 173 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: but not every lap, you know, you take a bottle, 174 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: you take a drink, you don't, you know, I had. 175 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: I got a flat tire as well, so I had 176 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: to come through. They changed my wheel and I kept going. 177 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: So there's a lot going on racing and go through 178 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: the feed zone twice a lap. Sometimes you take a bottle, 179 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: sometimes you don't, and if you don't, you need to 180 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: go around when you're with a group of people. And 181 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: so I think, you know, in my head, when you're 182 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: the point of the rule, right, which I absolutely respect, 183 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: is when you're in a bunch race. Exciting racing, right, 184 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: there's a lot happening. You need to make sure that 185 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: when riders are going through the feed zone, they don't 186 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: get it that they only take bottles and they don't 187 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: advance in the race because of that. So when it 188 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: comes to the last lap, you know when there's no 189 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: nobody's drinking anymore, right, you're not taking feeds in the 190 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: last lap. It's yeah, I guess you know. It just 191 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: spaced my mind that I needed to grab something because 192 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: we never do in the last lap. 193 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: So wow, that's crazy. 194 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: And to give people who are listening and an idea 195 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: of what it is to race a mountain bike race. 196 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: In the Olympics, they're twisting gravel paths, I've learned, a 197 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: technical rock garden, a challenging climb. This is just under 198 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: twenty miles, is that correct? 199 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 5: Oh? Oh gosh. 200 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: I don't actually know how what the total amount of 201 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: mile inches, but the course is for four k yeah, 202 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 4: and we did about I think we did eight laps 203 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: of the course or maybe seven seven to eight laps. 204 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: I'd have to go back to check. 205 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: With Yeah, seven seven two point four mile laps, that's 206 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: what I got online. But I'm talking about the expert here, 207 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: but I was just trying to imagine what that is like, 208 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: just to have to go through and anticipate all of 209 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: that terrain. 210 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean it's really intense, right, Like the 211 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: start line is also a mass start, so you race 212 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 4: for an hour and a half and you start in 213 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: the start line. At the Olympics it's only thirty eight 214 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: riders I think, but at World's Cups, you know, it 215 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: can be over one hundred. So you're starting lined up 216 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: next to each other, eight people to a row. And 217 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: in the Olympics, I was second row, right and you 218 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: the We have a light panel, so it goes from 219 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 4: from red to green, so similar like Formula one. When 220 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: it turns green, you have a small pedal like this 221 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: big and you have to clip your pedal on perfectly 222 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 4: and from then you you go. And it's basically I mean, 223 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: it's endurance racing, but it's also really intense. We're basically 224 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: going maximal effort for an hour and a half. So 225 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: there's it's really unique to train for because it's not 226 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 4: a sprint, you know, but it's also not quite endurance pace, 227 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 4: so you have to be the full package of fitness 228 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: being able to do like high power but also sustain 229 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: your effort. 230 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Haley, we're learning so much about a lot of Olympic sports, 231 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: from canoeing, the skateboarding to a lot of stuff, and 232 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: this is one as well. But can you explain the 233 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: folks this part, how it's possible you can have a 234 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: busted wheel on your bike but still end up just 235 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to have to stop and get it repaired, but still 236 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: end up with a silver metal. How did this all 237 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: go down? 238 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure. So I mean, like you said, 239 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: our courses are pretty intense. There's steep climes, there's gravel corners, 240 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: you know, but there's also these big rock gardens. So 241 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: you have to be physically fit, but you also have 242 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: to be very skilled and to set up your equipment 243 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: right for the demands of that course. So we're always changing, 244 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: you know, we're choosing our tires, we're setting up our suspension, 245 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: we're choosing the type of bike that will race, dependent 246 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: on you know, how big these features are and what 247 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: the demands of the course are. So I had just 248 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: I had a bad start off the line. I was 249 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: in maybe twelfth position or so, and in this course, 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, this is very in their nitty gritty, 251 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: But it depends on, you know, when you want to 252 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: be forward, how you pace your race based on how 253 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: soon the track becomes you know, goes from dirt road 254 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: double track to single track where it's only single file 255 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 4: and you can't pass people. So there's a lot of 256 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: different elements that you're always thinking about. But I had 257 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: just caught up to the chase group, which was about 258 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: four to five riders really battling. First had kind of 259 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 4: taken off, and second and third weren't far off, and 260 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 4: I was racing with them for a while, and then 261 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 4: I just dropped them on one of the climb and 262 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: I was catching the bronze metal position at the time, 263 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 4: and I, you know, I went over the limit a 264 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: little bit. That's also a thing in mountain biking. You 265 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: have to balance, you know, how hard you go up 266 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: a climb, because if you do, you know, too much 267 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: effort and you're a little bit tired. As you go 268 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: into these rock gardens, maybe you won't choose the right 269 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: line and you might make a mistake or you might crash. 270 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: I didn't quite do that, but I went a little 271 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: too fast on the downhill and I hit this rock 272 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: super hard with my tire. I broke the wheel and 273 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 4: I flatted, and I was lucky because I was relatively 274 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: close to the feed zone. I still had to go over, 275 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: you know, a couple other rock sections, but I was lucky. 276 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: My mechanic saw me a switch back ahead and he 277 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: could tell the way I was riding. He's like, oh, 278 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: my gosh, I think she has a flat tire. And 279 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: I was as I was going around one of the 280 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: drops that I obviously couldn't ride with my flat tire. 281 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: The two riders, Jenny Ridsbed's who ended up up getting bronze, 282 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 4: and then my teammate from Specialized in from Austria. They 283 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: both went by and Jenny actually told my feeds and 284 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: my mechanic that I had a flat tire, so he 285 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: was ready for me, and so when I came in, 286 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 4: maybe I was in like sixth position or seventh position. 287 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: By then he did the fastest wheel chain ever, like 288 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: maybe record. I think they're just the energy and the 289 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: excitement and everything. 290 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: You know what, Haley, I'm curious how fast can I 291 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: change a tire? 292 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: I mean they're changing the full wheel right, so they 293 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: remove the rear wheel, they shift it into the right gear, 294 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: They remove the rear wheel, they pop a new wheel 295 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: and with the tire after right my pressure that I need, 296 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: and then I go and they and they try to 297 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: get into the right gear too, because if it's in 298 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: too big of a gear and I can't pedal right 299 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: right right away, it needs to be the right gear 300 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 4: so I can actually pedal out the right cadence and 301 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: the right power right when I take off. But he 302 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: did it, I think in less than twenty seconds, which is. 303 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: In twenty seconds. That is crazy. 304 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: So what's going through your mind now? Are you thinking 305 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: my Olympic metal hopes are shattered? Are you thinking this 306 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: is doable? I can go Like what's going through your 307 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: head when you have a flat tire and a broken wheel? 308 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 309 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: All of that went through my head when I first 310 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 4: broke my you know, when I hit my wheel on 311 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: the rock and I was like, oh, that didn't sound good. 312 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 4: You know, there's a chance that that's a flat, you know, 313 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: And then I could feel it going flat. 314 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: When I was right, I was like, how could you lose? 315 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: Like I finally moved in the metal positions, right, I'm 316 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: finally battling for the metals, and I was like, how 317 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: could you lose this opportunity, you know, And I'd already 318 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: had a bad start, so I was, you know what 319 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 4: what you know, this is the second time, and now 320 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: you're like, how do you mess it up? You know? 321 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 4: But you really have to switch your mentality from those 322 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: thoughts and clear that's away as quickly as possible and 323 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: just focus on the moment. And I will say, like 324 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: after he fixed my flat, it was like I had 325 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: this new energy in me, Like I went to a 326 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: place that I don't think I've ever been before. I 327 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: was just so I knew I was physically fit, and 328 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: it was like I had nothing to lose, right, Like 329 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: now I had I have nothing, or maybe I can 330 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: get a medal. So I just I had no pacing 331 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: to worry about. I had know I could take every 332 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: risk I wanted, right. I just needed to go as 333 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 4: hard as I could to catch you. And it was 334 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: like my like I really I felt no pain. It 335 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: was crazy, like I could just go so deep and 336 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 4: I could push so hard because I wanted it so bad, 337 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: and it was like all the adrenaline in my body, 338 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: you know, was helping me race at my fastest. So 339 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: it was crazy how quickly I caught back up into 340 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: the metal positions, and then one of the riders crashed. 341 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 4: Another rider also flatted, So yeah, it became like full 342 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: sprint all the way to the finish, you know, and 343 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: like now you're hearing there's so much excitement. You're you 344 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: also like not just all this, but the mechanicals, the equipment. 345 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: You're fueling every lap. You have to get your fueling 346 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: right for how much you need to fuel for the 347 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: duration of an hour and a half. And there's a 348 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: lot going on in these races, right, It's not just like, oh, 349 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: I went through the feed zone like sorry, guys. It's like, no, really, 350 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: I was racing for a silver medal I and I'm 351 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: in the moment. Everything's a blurb, right, You're just getting 352 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: there to the finish line as fast as you can, 353 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: and so yeah. 354 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 5: Mistakes happen. There's a lot going on and mountain bike racing. 355 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: It's so cool they hear this because this is part 356 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: of what Robot and I've enjoyed in watching, because when 357 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: you get a commentator on who can explain things to 358 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: you because they've done it, and they're explaining technical things 359 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: that maybe we didn't notice. And here I thought you 360 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: were riding a bike. I thought you were just peddling 361 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: and making some lefts and rights. It's so cool to 362 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: hear you explain it the way you have at a 363 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: bad start, went too fast down a hill and busted 364 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: at tire and food zone. If you put together a 365 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: good race, you might win. 366 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: Right when you say you fuel, Hayley, I'm always curious 367 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: because we've were nowhere near being Olympians, but we have 368 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: run a few marathons and fueling's always like the issue. 369 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: I never know we're training for one, right now, what do. 370 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 5: You especially for a marathon? 371 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 372 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: But what do you eat or drink while you're biking 373 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: to have your optimum performance? 374 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 375 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: So, I mean carbohydrates are key and obviously this goes 376 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: before the race start, right you're doing this for weeks, 377 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: leading in every day for years. Maybe you know before, during, 378 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: and after, but the key in a race in long 379 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 4: train or you know, any training from like two to 380 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: four hours. What you guys are doing a marathon that's 381 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: long fueling is like in my mind, when it comes 382 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 4: to endurance racing, that's win or lose, Like it's a 383 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: game of fueling. It's not a game of fitness. It's 384 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 4: a game of fueling. I you know, when I'm doing 385 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 4: training rides, I'm shooting from anywhere from ninety to one 386 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty rams of carbohydrates. 387 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 5: That's carbohydrates. 388 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: That's not calories, right, that's looking at your your bar 389 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 4: and looking just at carbs and being like, I need 390 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: to have ninety to one hundred and twenty grams every hour. 391 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 5: That's a lot. 392 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you do you ever? 393 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: But like here's me, I'm asking for my own personal 394 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm just so curious. Do you ever get ill by 395 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: consuming all that? Do you ever feel like do you 396 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: are these like the little power gummy thingies or the 397 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: the gels? 398 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: Like what is it you're putting in? 399 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean that's such a good question because this 400 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: takes years to figure out, especially for a marathon race, right, 401 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: Like you need to figure out what sits, what works 402 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: for you, how you're gonna maybe even preload a bit 403 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: before the race, you know? 404 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: And what's that saying fuel early? Fuel? 405 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: Often like you always need to just like every twenty 406 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 4: minutes be fueling. But no, it's it's years of figuring out, Okay, 407 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: what works for me? 408 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: You know? 409 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: Do I use a high you know? High carbohydrate drink mix. 410 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 4: Does I have a next you know, enough electrolytes and 411 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: salt for my sweat rate? You know, we do sweat 412 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: rate testing for heat, like how hot is it going 413 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: to be? 414 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 5: You know? And then you. 415 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: Also, yeah, maybe it's choos, maybe it's gels, maybe it's bars, 416 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: and you know sometimes when I go on a four hour, right, 417 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: it's a whole mix of all of those things, and 418 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: then making sure all those things are compatible, Like you 419 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: don't want to awful because you mix, yeah, too many brands, right, Yeah. 420 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: Because if you have stomach issues, it's not it's not 421 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: going to end well. It's not going to end well 422 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: for you. I'm still I'm literally training for my sixth 423 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: moth and I still haven't figured it out. 424 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Hailey. If you can tell she has stomach issues and 425 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: she is a she is a dry heaver. So that's what. 426 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: I want to know. How you figured it out years 427 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: of trial and error. 428 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: That makes sense for sure. 429 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, But in a marathon, I mean you must just 430 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: have to eat one what you like and also just 431 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 4: drinking enough I can imagine and feeling they're. 432 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: Not drinking too much because it can be This is 433 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: like stuff I can't. 434 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't imagine. 435 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm curious how many calories? How much do you burn? 436 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: How many calories can you burn in one race? 437 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, do you want me to. 438 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: Check of chefs? 439 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 4: I would love I could tell you, like a in 440 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 4: a ride, In just a ride, I mean, it's pretty 441 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 4: easy to go to twenty five hundred calory, you know, 442 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 4: kj's or something. Yeah, so today I could tell you today, 443 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: just like a two out two forty ride, I burned 444 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 4: fifteen hundred kJ. So that's not crazy, that's not a 445 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 4: crazy day. But in a race, I mean for sure 446 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: fifteen hundred for. 447 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: Sure, maybe more. 448 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: And you know what, you came back from a very 449 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: serious injury just last year, back in June of twenty 450 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: twenty three, you suffered a concussion in a training crash 451 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: in Austria. Coming back from something like that physically is 452 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: one thing, but also mentally correct What did you have 453 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: to do to I mean, the idea of crashing at 454 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: the rates of speed you're going at on the kind 455 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: of terrain you're writing in is frightening, to say the 456 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: least mentally. How did you get past that and through it? 457 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? For sure? That was my hardest injury so far. 458 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: You know, I've I've had cuts and bruises, you know, 459 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: and bad crashes that are scary, but for sure concussion 460 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: one hundred percent was the scariest one so far. And 461 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: I think it's because it really affects your perception of reality, 462 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: you know, like puts you in this like fog right 463 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: or what I call like a fish bowl where you 464 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: just aren't experiencing life with the clarity and joy. That 465 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: is what's so great, you know about just like just 466 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: daily life, you know. And that injury was really hard 467 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 4: to because it took me a lot longer than I 468 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: expected to recover. It was I think like five weeks 469 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: before I could really get back to fully training again. 470 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 4: And that was because I that when I crash, it 471 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 4: was actually between two races, so I had done a 472 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: race the day before, and then I was on training 473 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: on the course to finalize some of my lines on 474 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 4: some of the technical sections and I crashed and it 475 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: wasn't even a bad crash. I didn't think I had 476 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: a concussion actually, so I got up, I kept riding. 477 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: I was totally fine, and I actually decided to race 478 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: the next day. 479 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 5: And that was the number one mistake. 480 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: So as I've learned, like since then, is a concussion 481 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: can those symptoms can develop within twenty four to forty 482 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: eight hours later. And so because I played with that 483 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 4: really crucial recovery window, you know, my blood pressure went up, 484 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: my heart rate, your you know, I was having caffeine, 485 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: all these things that were fully suboptimal for what I 486 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: needed to do to help my brain recost, and that 487 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: really affected my recovery timeline. So it took a lot 488 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: longer than it needed to and it made my symptoms 489 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 4: a lot worse. And yeah, it took me a lot 490 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: longer to recover. So that was really hard, and I 491 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 4: had a lot of amazing people supporting me and helping 492 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: guide me to the right things to do, because as 493 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: an athlete, it's really easy to try and get right 494 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: back on the bike or you know, get back to training. 495 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 5: Or push through, push through, push through. 496 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: And I think the lessons that that injury taught me 497 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: went way beyond just injury recover but has helped me 498 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 4: a lot as an athlete since then, of learning the 499 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: difference between working harder and working smarter, and being able 500 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: to listen to my body and how I feel, and 501 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: also just appreciating my sport even more and what I 502 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: do and why I love it, because an injury like 503 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: that makes you really reflect on why the heck do 504 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: I do this crazy thing? 505 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 1: You know? 506 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 5: Do I want to keep doing it? 507 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: And just like gratitude for life and the sport that 508 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: I do and how lucky I am to pursue it 509 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 4: at a high level. So yeah, I learned a lot 510 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: during that time and it was really hard. 511 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: Oh well, it's good to see you. You're back, and 512 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: obviously it was certainly think it's worth it, But can 513 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: you tell me, because you Olympics, your your race just happened. 514 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: You got out of there and you're on to the 515 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: next thing. But did you get the full Olympic experience. 516 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm just curious about our Olympic village if you got 517 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: to even hang out with a lot of other athletes. 518 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I know you all were doing your race and kind 519 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: of a different spot than everybody else was in, and 520 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: so just what was the experience. 521 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, yeah, it was really cool because I was 522 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: in Tokyo as well, and that was just not quite 523 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: the same. You know, my family couldn't be there and 524 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 4: the fans, you know, and this year, yeah, we arrived 525 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: in the in the village with my teammates and we 526 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 4: did the whole USA team processing, right, So you're getting 527 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: these bags of clothes and trying everything on and getting 528 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: fitted and having the support from these amazing brands, and 529 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: you know, you go to the meal hall and there's 530 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: so many athletes, right, it's like the dream, right an 531 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: that you're walking around it. Everybody's spit and and you know, 532 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: the best at what they do and just so cool, 533 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 4: right or they're you know, you've seen them on TV, 534 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: and so that whole environment's just amazing, right, And yeah, 535 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: pretty quickly we went and we locked into to our 536 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 4: venue in Ellencourt, which was not inside the village, but 537 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: honestly it was okay with me. 538 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: I didn't need to sleep. 539 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: On the cardboard beds every night and of the village mood. 540 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: So we we locked into performance for sure, and that's 541 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 4: also the best part of what we do. And my 542 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: family was there, and then after the race, I yeah, 543 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 4: I got to go to the Team USA house. 544 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: I did this whole media tour. 545 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 4: I did the the the Metal ceremony that that front 546 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 4: that Paris did, which was incredible because I got to 547 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: share it with the Olympic gold medalist who was from 548 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 4: France in our event, so that was really special. 549 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 5: And then yeah, I went out with my teammates and 550 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: we saw. 551 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: The beach volleyball event the next night under the Eiffel Tower, 552 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: so that was super cool, and just checking out Paris, 553 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: and then I went on vacation in Portugal with my 554 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: family pretty quickly after. So I definitely got the experience 555 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: that I'm super grateful for, and the medal was definitely 556 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 4: the highlight for sure. 557 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: It sounds like like probably the most amazing two weeks 558 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: ever in your entire life. 559 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: What you just described trip, that's amazing. I wanted to 560 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: give a shout out to Arkansas. DJ is from Arkansas in. 561 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: Fact, yeah, and we were just funny enough in Ventonville 562 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: not that long ago and saw all the cyclists and 563 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: wasn't putting two and two together that it's the home 564 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: of the National mountain Bike team of USA cycling. 565 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, yeah, it is. 566 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 4: They've supported us so much and as you saw, like 567 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: the infrastructure there for cycling is next level. And I 568 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: really believe that, like when a community invests in making 569 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: a city like walkable and rideable and cycling friendly, like 570 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: that is what every state needs, right kids can like 571 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 4: bike to school and bike to bike to work. I 572 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 4: think that's like the baseline of how biking is and 573 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 4: it's obviously translating there and to to some more world's 574 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: class trials and training facilities as well. 575 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: So who can claim you? Who should claim you? Because 576 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: everybody wants to claim you. Santa Cruz wants to claim you. 577 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: Could you live there? Park City wants to claim you 578 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: because you brought up there. Now Arkansas wants to claim you. 579 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: Could you could train there? So which is it? 580 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously you know, Park City is where 581 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: I grew up, so it has a special place in 582 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: my heart. But I think what's so cool about what 583 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: I do is that I I mean, like, like I said, 584 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 4: I'm in Girona part time of the year, and then 585 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 4: I'm going to this crazy place and then this, and 586 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: then I'm back in Santa Cruz. But then pretty quickly 587 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: I go off to the East Coast to do more races. 588 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: So I travel the world and I travel the really 589 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 4: cool places and they've all made me the athlete that 590 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 4: I am today. So home for me isn't a lot 591 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: of really special places. So I feel really lucky to 592 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: have the support of those communities as well. It's what 593 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 4: makes it so special. 594 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, Haley, finally here, have you paid the fine? 595 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, we paid the fine as fast as we could. 596 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: I do all agory about that. 597 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: And it wasn't tie to the metal. It's not like 598 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: they say we're going to withhold your metal until we 599 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: get your money, right. 600 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: No, No, it really like there was no way that 601 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: the race dynamic would change based on that. It's really that, 602 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: you know, I made a mistake. I shouldn't have done that, 603 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: and to make sure those rules are followed to make 604 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 4: the racing go. Like you know, there's a lot going on, 605 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 4: like what we talked about racing, there's a lot of people, 606 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: there's a lot of feeds, mechanicals. We need to make 607 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 4: sure those feed zones don't have people just riding through 608 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 4: them for fun or or you know, doing something that 609 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: doesn't keep the keep the racing you know, running smoothly. 610 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I'll take the fine if that's 611 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: what we need to keep our sport you know, running well. 612 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: And yeah, next time I won't do it. That's pretty sure. 613 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: Like, hey, how do you pay it? Electronically? Write of 614 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: a personal check? 615 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 5: Usa cycling did it for me. Honestly, I just want. 616 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: To make sure you didn't have to come out of 617 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: that money. 618 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: And I know you're obviously there and you're you're still 619 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: cycling and so races, but do you have are you 620 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: already starting to think about twenty twenty eight? 621 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: La? 622 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: Oh? 623 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: For sure? 624 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 625 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 4: I mean I think as athletes, the planning happens many 626 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 4: years in advance, and for I think just the energy 627 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 4: of seeing like Pauline, you know, win her own country. 628 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you can have this one, but 629 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: the night and then you know, the next one's mine. 630 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean me and my coach are like, okay, 631 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: like like I visualized winning this race, you know, I 632 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: wanted to be an Olympic champion, silver medal. I feel 633 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 4: like in a hundred ways I won that race in 634 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 4: my mind, you know, Like and for me, I won 635 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: the silver medal right, Like the way I race everything 636 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: like was so amazing. But I also didn't have a 637 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: great start. I flatted right, I missed. 638 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 5: The feed zone. 639 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: These are things like for me, these are all controllables 640 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: of becoming excellent. And so every you know, after every 641 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: race that I sit down and I write like, how 642 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: can I be better? And I think you know that 643 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: preparation starts, you know, when you're motivated and you care 644 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: the most, And that's like right after the Olympic Games, right, 645 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: So for sure, I'm using this to motivate me and 646 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: my preparation moving forward. 647 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: She got to do LA. I mean, can you imagine 648 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: LA is so close to her home of Santa Cruz 649 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: and her home of Park City. 650 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I love it. 651 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: Going for gold in twenty twenty eight. 652 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: That's amazing, exactly right. 653 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: That's congratulations, Haley, And thank you so much for taking 654 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: some time out of your very very busy life right 655 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: now to talk with us. Just so inspiring and we're 656 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: so proud of you. Congratulations. 657 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much for the good questions. It was 658 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: good to talk through everything. 659 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: No, thank you for the education. And you know what 660 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: I meant to say this earlier. It's cool to see 661 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: somebody as passionate about their sport as you are. You 662 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: light up when you start talking about it, not talking 663 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: about the silver metal necessarily, just talking about the sport itself. 664 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: You clearly enjoy it and the technical parts of it. 665 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: I know you noticed it earlier. She was bouncing off 666 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: the seat when she started talking. 667 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: It's beautiful to see that passion. 668 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 5: Oh that's nice. 669 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: So do you guys bike or what we run? My 670 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: city bike? 671 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: That's about I get to a bicycle. But yes, we've 672 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: we've been running. But it's I'm just I'm always in 673 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: awe of people who can do those types of endurance 674 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: things that just take every single bit of of your 675 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: energy and your effort and your mental the mental challenges 676 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: that come along with endurance types of athletics is just 677 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: remarkable to me. 678 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: We know it from the running for sure. 679 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're just loud of you and thirty minutes right, 680 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: you're inspiring. I know so many, so many young folks 681 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: out there who think if she can do what, I 682 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: can do it. So thank you for sharing your story. 683 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, and good luck in your marathon. I 684 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 5: hope you got thank you. Yeah,