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Speaker 1: Here Jason Ware's welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, rubin tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zuleki. Brought

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Speaker 2: to you by the Foul Territory Network. It's Thursday, November fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. We've got a special guest today, two

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Speaker 2: thousand and eight World Series champion, Jason Worth. But he's

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Speaker 2: more than a World Series champion. He's also a Belmont

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Speaker 2: Steaks champion. His horse Dornock won the Belmont Steaks this summer.

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Speaker 2: I definitely saw videos of it. Jason is out right

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Speaker 2: now promoting the sport of horse racing.

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Speaker 3: He loves the sport.

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Speaker 2: You will listen to this interview and you will realize

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Speaker 2: how much this has become a passion for Jason Worth,

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Speaker 2: trying to get more people involved in the sports sport

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Speaker 2: of horse racing. So we talk a lot about the Belmont,

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Speaker 2: his love of horses, how we got into it, why

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Speaker 2: he wants other people to get into it. But of

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Speaker 2: course we circle back to baseball, about Bryce Harper, Trey Turner,

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Speaker 2: Chase Sutley winning in Philadelphia, resurrecting his career with the Phillies,

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Speaker 2: and when the Dodgers released him many many years ago,

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Speaker 2: so enjoy this one. Jason Worth, Jason Man, thank you

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Speaker 2: for joining the Phillies Show. How are you man, It's

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Speaker 2: good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good. We're down down here in Florida. A

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Speaker 1: couple of hurricanes later, but we're doing all right. Hang

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Speaker 1: it in all right, good man.

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Speaker 2: You're always one of our Jim and I we talk

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Speaker 2: over the years about like guy, favorite guys we covered,

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Speaker 2: and you're always at the top of the list. We

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Speaker 2: always loved writing about you, talking to.

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Speaker 1: You, interviewing you.

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Speaker 2: And now it's kind of cool to see this second career.

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Speaker 2: You have this new passion that you have in horse racing.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, first of all, congratulations on you and

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Speaker 2: door Knock winning the Belmont.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, pretty awesome, pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. You know, kind of got into this

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Speaker 1: thing a few years ago, was you know, buddy down

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Speaker 1: here in Florida. We did some Florida Brads, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is this is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: What what what else can I do? You know? And uh,

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Speaker 1: when was mostly doing Phillies, Uh, surprise, surprise, but uh

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Speaker 1: went to the sale and Keelan and and and I

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Speaker 1: bought like five colts that year. The first colt I

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Speaker 1: bought was was Dornic, So I mean just dumb luck,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but uh yeah, crazy run. You know. The

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Speaker 1: guy that I bought him with the trainer was like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, get it, get in on this horse man,

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Speaker 1: Well you'll be on the Derby trail. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh that sounds like fun. You know, like people later

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Speaker 1: on were like that guy's so full of ship, like

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Speaker 1: you don't buy a horse and beyond the Derby trailing. No,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what you're getting. So definitely

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Speaker 1: lucky and U to just spin on a crazy crazy summer.

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Speaker 1: You know, we go, We run fourth in the blue

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Speaker 1: Grass in the spring, kind of a little bit disappointing,

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Speaker 1: had a little foot issue coming into the Derby. We

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Speaker 1: weren't totally sure we draw the one post, which was

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Speaker 1: you know, just a death sentence for for for for

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Speaker 1: a draw. I mean you no horses win in the

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Speaker 1: modern era from the one post. So it was a

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Speaker 1: little disappointing, but we felt like we had the horse

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Speaker 1: to win and he's still like, you know, he didn't

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Speaker 1: run bad. But going to the Belmont, you know, we

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Speaker 1: were like, we got we think we had the best horse,

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Speaker 1: and the industry it was just, you know, everyone just

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Speaker 1: said we have we had no shot, you know, fifteen

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Speaker 1: to one morning line, seventeen to one, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: going into the gate and the second longest sides in

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Speaker 1: the field, and you know, I'm like, I got, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm bet my ass on I got. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: bet two day, two day, double two day, pick five,

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Speaker 1: pick five, pick four, pick threes in and out, you know,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I bet them win play show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I killed it. But it was I was probably the

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Speaker 1: only only person to bet on them, but it was, Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was an amazing, amazing experience. There's some really good

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Speaker 1: there's some really good footage on America's Best Racing dot

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Speaker 1: com website. You can see it and us going absolutely

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Speaker 1: ape ship. It was. It was, it was quite the

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Speaker 1: Uh it was quite the day.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I was you're on social media now, I was checking

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Speaker 2: out your Instagram accounts. You have to eight racing two

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Speaker 2: at to eight racing the word two spelled out, eight

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Speaker 2: spelled out, and then you're on Icon Racing LFG, and

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Speaker 2: that just kind of like listening to you talk about

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Speaker 2: these horses, and then watching your reaction to the bell

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Speaker 2: mount where I thought you were gonna blow your vocal

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Speaker 2: cords out my voice. And then the other thing I

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Speaker 2: thought was cool, is you really just love these horses.

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Speaker 2: I think I can't remember what the horse was now,

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Speaker 2: but you were talking about you saw him in the paddock,

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Speaker 2: your eyes met, and you just sensed this connection.

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Speaker 1: Was it ripped? Ripped? Something that was that raging bull? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: we might name him rap. Actually that's a good name.

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Speaker 1: I'll yeah. I don't know what it is man like that.

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Speaker 1: Ever since. You know, I've always been an animal lover.

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Speaker 1: I always had dogs and stuff, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: you just you these things become part of your your family.

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Speaker 1: There's something to them that it's connection you have. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's like Avatar, you know, when you're like you

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Speaker 1: put your hair into the into the horses, you know,

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Speaker 1: hair me. I don't know, it's it's uh, it's it's

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Speaker 1: there's something about them that Dorna kind of kind of

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Speaker 1: the success, we started Icon Racing Syndicate and and horse Partnerships,

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Speaker 1: and we're looking to do, you know, bring new owners

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Speaker 1: new age syndicated have come come along, you know, West

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Speaker 1: Point Racing my race horse, there's a new one morning

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Speaker 1: the people that have just been the you know, the

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Speaker 1: you don't ever feel those you know, competitive juices. You

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Speaker 1: play in a Beer League softball game, but you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna get that, like, you know, that experience of what

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Speaker 4: Jason more exciting watching door Knock come down the stretch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's the same, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: get going Obviously that at Homer, you know, stairs he

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Speaker 1: You know, kind of same same kind of kind of situation,

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Speaker 2: But you actually look quick read. I read that you

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Speaker 2: said you never got nervous as a player, though, but

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Speaker 2: you get nervous owning a horse and watching this horse race.

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Speaker 2: Explain that to me. How you can get into a

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Speaker 1: That is you're not running the race. It's crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So I think the best way to describe it is

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Speaker 1: when when I'm when I was playing, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've had you know, a million reps, I've had, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like it'll be okay. Mom's kind of smaller deal. It's

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Speaker 1: not a big you know, not a big deal like

429
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 1: you just I want to show you the sport. I

430
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: want to tell you about it. It would be a

431
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: tough sell to get the alleys in on on horse tracing,

432
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, with all that they do for animal cruelty.

433
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 1: So it was, it was it was a leap of

434
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Speaker 1: faith for them to even get there. And then we

435
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 1: have this amazing day. You know, they got to you know,

436
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 1: go see the horse and the penny, you know, back

437
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 1: to the backstretch and the arns and go see the

438
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: horses and talk to the trainers the people that care

439
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: for them, and and get a little better sense of

440
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: of what horse racing is. I'm not sure that we

441
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 1: sold them on it, but at least they feel better

442
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: about it. And then you know, then we go to

443
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: the we go to the hospital, and we went I mean,

444
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: this is a big hospital. Is a big race. I mean,

445
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the it's a great one race.

446
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean when in the hospitals, like it's probably right,

447
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably like, you know, fifth or sixth

448
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,239
Speaker 1: biggest race of the year. So we win that and

449
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: then there's a you know, you can see me in

450
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,959
Speaker 1: Chase going crazy and yeah, I'm like, I grab one,

451
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: like I fucking don't you.

452
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: It's cool to see all you guys are still close,

453
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 2: super close. Was the Belmont the weekend of the London series? Jason, Okay,

454
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 2: would you have been would you have been in London if.

455
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: I told all those guys I was going unless we're

456
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 1: running in the Belmont and you know run and so

457
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,479
Speaker 1: it was. That was, you know, one of those deals.

458
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: But again it's it's, uh, anybody I bring around to

459
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 1: the races, they get a sense of what it really is,

460
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: and I think it's you know, it's it's it's it's

461
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: it's a difference for that he used to be. It's

462
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: a it's a great sports fun for the whole family.

463
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was. It was funn to get the

464
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: get the las out there.

465
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: I know, you know, like I said, you're still close

466
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: to a lot of those guys. We had Chase on

467
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: on this podcast like in late May or June, and

468
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: he told some good stories. He had some other Hamils

469
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 2: Burrow on there. Do you have like a favorite Chase

470
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 2: story that kind of encapsulates him as a baseball player.

471
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: His intensity is work, ethic, you know the video watching

472
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 2: anything come to mind for you.

473
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Speaker 1: Let's see, you know, well, just playing behind him all

474
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: those years, you know, there was he had at one

475
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: point you know, we'd like we'd have this back and

476
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Speaker 1: forth and uh you know, like you know, like positioning

477
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: and just you know, like he's just right, He's a

478
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: guy in front of me. So I'm always you know,

479
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: staring at him, and when he turns around, you always

480
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: give me the outs and all that stuff. So, uh

481
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Speaker 1: So one point in time, he like something happened where

482
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: if he saw the pitch count behind me, you know,

483
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 1: they like like something bad happened. So like I would

484
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: like to be a point in the game where I

485
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: like I have a question what like, you know, what

486
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: what are we doing or something? I whistle at him

487
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: and like he wouldn't he wouldn't turn around, and like

488
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: finally I'm like what, Like what's you do? Why why

489
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: don't you turn around? He's like, I can't you know

490
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: the board? And so I'm like what are you talking about?

491
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: So this goes on and finally, dude, what the fuck?

492
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: Like hey, you know, He's like I can't with the

493
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, the board. I'm like, what are you talking

494
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: about I was like, I don't know, man, I see

495
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: the board, like, you know, we give up a hit

496
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: or something, so we get you. I was like, whatever,

497
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, and then uh, we get in these like games,

498
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: lopsided games where we beat people. So I'd like, I'd

499
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: like whistle at him and he like and whistle until

500
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: he turn around. He turn around, he'd have his glove

501
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: over stace. You couldn't so you couldn't see the boy.

502
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: You can only see me, Like what, I don't know,

503
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: he's just he's uh, he's chase. It was, I don't know.

504
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: It was. It was a pleasure to get to play

505
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: behind him all those years, and you know, I got to.

506
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: I got to. It was just on another phone call

507
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: ever talking about with the with the Hall of Fame

508
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, he's a first ballot Hall

509
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Speaker 1: of Famer, No, no doubt in my mind. Is intangibles

510
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: that he brought, you know, to the to the field

511
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: every day. It was it was what's separated from from

512
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, and that's something that doesn't you

513
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: can't see on the on the you know, on your

514
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: stat line or anything like that. You know, did he

515
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Speaker 1: have some injuries is the is the is theall amount

516
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Speaker 1: of volume. I mean, that's what the Hall of Fame

517
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: is about, right, Like you know, you're how much volume

518
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Speaker 1: had your years? And he had some injuries, so he's

519
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: kind of you know, he's closed, he's kind of on

520
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: the bubble. But it's intangibles that I think set him apart,

521
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Speaker 1: and to me, he's the first ball Hall of Famer.

522
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Speaker 3: Talk about a little bit, Jason, about that piece of it.

523
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Speaker 7: I mean people talk about the numbers and the you know,

524
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 7: it's all about the numbers.

525
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Speaker 3: Talk about how important.

526
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Speaker 7: It is to have those types like what what it

527
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 7: is to be a Hall of Fame teammate, what it

528
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 7: is to be a Hall of Fame or a creative

529
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame clubhouse, and how important that is for

530
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Speaker 7: winning teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's one thing that's that's

532
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of lost in today's game, right, There's so

533
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: much focus on these these crazy stats and these you know,

534
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: the stuff that we never even knew about when I played.

535
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Speaker 1: And I think what gets lost is is these is

536
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Speaker 1: that is that like the chemistry, the intangibles, the you know,

537
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: your Hall of Fame, your Hall of Fame, clubhouse, and

538
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: not just a Hall of Fame team, but you know

539
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: what what makes a winning team? And I think that's

540
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Speaker 1: you know what seteth apart those years and from two

541
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Speaker 1: thousand to twenty ten, as we had, we had an

542
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: unbelievable chemistry, you know, from the coaching staff, from Charlie

543
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: to the players to the training staff. I mean it

544
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: was it was an unbelievable place to go to work

545
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: every day. And that that is something that I think,

546
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, really sets teams apart, but you can't quantify it, right,

547
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: So it's how do you you know, still on the

548
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: back of your baseball card, how do you how do

549
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: you make that It's the people, right, It's the character

550
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: of the players, is the character of the staff, of

551
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the manager that create that atmosphere,

552
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: that winning atmosphere. A perfect example is in Washington. I

553
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: go to Washington and you know, the first year I

554
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: was there, it was a mass We finished five hundred,

555
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: and then from twenty twelve to twenty and seventeen we

556
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: were the best team in baseball and it was because

557
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: we created a winning, a climate, winning atmosphere. Yeah, we

558
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: had different managers, but you know, the training staff, the

559
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: clubhouse staff, and the players created this really cohesive place

560
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: that was you know, had great chemistry. But we couldn't

561
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: get it done. We didn't. We got bounced in the

562
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs because it's so hard to win. Right. Well,

563
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen team comes along. It's still pretty much

564
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: the same nuclears, same core guys that I played with

565
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Speaker 1: when I was there, and the difference was they had

566
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Speaker 1: the it factor. Our twenty and eighteen we had the

567
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Speaker 1: ed factor. You know. Our twenty nineteen we got beat

568
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Speaker 1: by a bunch of ghosts in New York. I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: we had the it factor. It was you know, it

570
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: was that type of atmosphere that you that you create

571
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: and those type of guys like Chase and Jimmy and

572
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Ryan and Shane and Me and Pat like the guys

573
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: like that. Those are the guys that create that atmosphere

574
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: where you go into work every day, you know, and

575
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: you check your egos at the door. You walk in

576
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: there and no one's safe and everybody's going and we

577
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: got everybody out. The whole group is moving in one

578
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: in one direction. It is. It's an incredible place to

579
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Speaker 1: be if you can get.

580
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Speaker 4: It Jason, That's that's great stuff nine with the Ghosts

581
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: and all you guys win it in a wait. It's

582
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: a great memory for everybody on this phone call, on

583
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: the zoom call, I should say. But the current Phillies

584
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: are trying to get there, and they're trying to get

585
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: over the hump, and they have a.

586
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: Lot of talent.

587
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: And there two of those big pieces they have are

588
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: you know, friends of yours, former teammates from Washington, Bryce Harper,

589
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 4: Trade Turner.

590
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: You keep tabs on those guys, says Phillies.

591
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I keep it. I keep tracking them a little bit.

592
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I raised those kids. You know, I

593
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: got Bryce to the nineteen Trey. We got Trey, uh

594
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: when he was you know, he was coming over from

595
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: he got he had a really weird deal, Uh Trey.

596
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: We got them at a kind of a weird, weird time.

597
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: You know, he had spent time with the with the

598
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Padres in big league camp as a Washington National. So

599
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it was like for him as

600
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: a as a Washington National in the big league camp

601
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: as a kid for the Padres. And I saw, I

602
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: saw what happened to him when we got I mean

603
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: he was like he didn't even know how to how

604
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: to you know, didn't know how to really be in

605
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: the big league clubhouse because of what those guys did

606
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: to him, probably in San Diego. So we had a

607
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: little work to do with with Trey. We got him

608
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: straightened out. Bryce obviously has become as it's becoming unbelievable

609
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: human being. I'm so proud of Bryce. You know, we

610
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: got when he was nineteen, he was he was such

611
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: a shithead. And you know he's run running face first

612
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: in the walls in l a and and uh, you know,

613
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: getting kicked out of games all the time. It was

614
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: he was, it was it was a journey with Bryce.

615
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: But you know, I think we we did we did

616
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff in Washington with those guys.

617
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: We had good teams and with good people, and uh,

618
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: we won a lot of games. And and to watch,

619
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, Washington, two kids go over to Philly and uh,

620
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: you know and play in the atmosphere that I played in,

621
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: on good teams in a city that you know loves

622
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: their loves their players can love their players, and uh,

623
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: it's it's been special that I think that what happened

624
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: with Trey and the uh, you know that whole thing

625
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: with you know, when they when they they, uh was

626
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: that I haven't seen the documentary yet, but that, yeah,

627
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: that was I mean that was so awesome and that

628
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: only a city like Philadelphia could come up with something

629
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: like that. I mean it didn't seem very Philly to me,

630
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: but it, uh it turned it turned out to me.

631
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean I love to say for that

632
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: they took they took care of a really good kid,

633
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: and they should have because he's a great player and

634
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: that's a great team and really like I think that

635
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: turned that season around and maybe you know, could be

636
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, quite possibly could have turned his whole career around.

637
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that could have been, that could have been

638
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: a different deal. You look at. You know, one of

639
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: my comps when I played was Carl Crawford. And you know,

640
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: when Carl to Boston, which was almost where where, and

641
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't it wasn't the same, It wasn't

642
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: the same type of situation. You know, he he basically

643
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: got booted out of town and and Trey was Trey

644
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: was close to that. I'll give it. I'll give it

645
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia for for turning around and getting Trey h

646
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: back where he needed to be, back on track. And

647
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: and uh, I mean trade to me is is literally

648
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: the if not the one of the best athletes on

649
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: the planet. I means he's fast, he's strong. You know,

650
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: HiT's for power, it's for average. He's freakiously fast. I

651
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: mean he's not just fast, it's freakiously fast. You know,

652
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: he plays a high demand position. He's got a great mind.

653
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: He's a smart kid. He's funny. You know, he's got

654
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: he's got all the intangibles. You know, he's he's uh,

655
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: he's a gritty guy. And I'm you know, to answer

656
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: your question, yeah, I keep I keep tassling those guys.

657
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: But you know, also, Jim, you got to realize that,

658
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's not easy winning. I mean when he's hard,

659
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: these guys are you know, these guys are are going

660
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: at it and they're they're they're in it. They the

661
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: town should be very satisfied with this. Obviously, you want

662
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: to win and and and that's the ultimate goal. But

663
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are still young. They gotta they gotta,

664
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: they got a big run left in him. It's gonna

665
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: be I think it's gonna be a long, long run

666
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: with them, the team keeps adding pieces and and and uh,

667
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think the ownership group is is is

668
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: the right group to get it done. So I think

669
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of a lot left in this team.

670
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: And obviously Bryce is is kind of the linch pin

671
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: in the UH in the clubhouse and and in the

672
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: UH in the organization and and uh again, I think

673
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, Bryce's Bryce has become you know,

674
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: what he what he was supposed to be. But uh,

675
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for some guys in Washington and in

676
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: the group that that was there that kind of had

677
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: him for those years, and and you know, maybe it

678
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: would be different. But I think the ultimate thing for

679
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Bryce is he was it was him to get out

680
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: of Washington and get a get a uh get a

681
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: kind of a you know, a clean slate. Uh, you know,

682
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: just some new new beginnings are or can be can

683
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: be great. And he he you know, kudos him because

684
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: he made the most of it. But awesome kid, awesome guy,

685
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: great you know, great father, husband and family man and teammates.

686
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: So really proud of those guys.

687
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I hear you when you say winning is hard,

688
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: it's hard, and I can hear in your voice, I

689
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: hear affection for Philadelphia. I hear affection for your Phillies experience.

690
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: Can you imagine I loved you one of the guys

691
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: I loved writing about I loved telling stories about you.

692
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: I always thought you an interesting copy, as we say

693
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: in the business. And my condolence says, I know you

694
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 4: lost your granddad a couple of years ago. I had

695
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 4: such a great time talking to him on the phone.

696
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: You know, you won a world series with the Pirates

697
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: to Schofield, want a world series with the Pirates in

698
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: sixty And you know, as I'm hanging up the phone

699
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: from doing this kind of human interest piece, he says,

700
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: tell Jason to stop taking those fastballs down in the middle.

701
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: And I just but, and I am also thinking about

702
00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: another folk.

703
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: How how different your life would be the morning after

704
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: the Dodgers non tendered you if your phone doesn't ring

705
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: and you hear that all familiar voice of Pat Gillick,

706
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: how light how different your life and your story would be?

707
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, and I think it's twofold. I think that

708
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: on the Untold Story, and I told it this summer,

709
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think I've really ever told

710
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: it before. So you know, I get non tenored by

711
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Uh, you know, eleven fifty Eastern, ten minutes

712
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: before the trade deadline. And I sat up all night

713
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: contemplating life and just you know, I can't believe I'm here. Uh.

714
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: And then seven thirty Central, eight thirty eastern, my phone rings,

715
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: and you know it's back when you had answer machines.

716
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I hear I'm sitting on the couch.

717
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: I sit up, like, who's calling me this earlier? And

718
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: I hear Jason and uh, and I say it with him.

719
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: It's Pat Gillick, you know, because you had that distinct

720
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: distinct voice. So I listened. I like, oh shit, I

721
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: listened to the recording and uh, they like jumped up

722
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: and ran over there and call him back. And he

723
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: came to see me the next day. There's a there's

724
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: a more interesting story though, And Reuben, you might you

725
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: might remember this day. So July thirty first, Michael Bourd

726
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: and Shane Victorino both go down, uh with injuries. I'm

727
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: on I'm on a rehab assignment, still trying to figure

728
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: my wrist out. I'm one for sixteen on my rehabs

729
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: sign I'm played in three years. Basically, I kind of

730
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: played hurt No. Five. I didn't play No. Six and

731
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: this is like almost the end of O seven, so

732
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: I literally like, you know, can't my wrist still was

733
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: still bugging me or whatever, and they, uh, you guys

734
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: called me up to Chicago and uh and because from

735
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: what I understand is you guys couldn't get a trade

736
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: done that night after the game at the deadline because

737
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I got hurt. You know, it was pretty late, so

738
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: you know obviously there's not you know, these other trades

739
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: we made or whatever, but uh, you call you called

740
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: me up and uh, We're in Chicago and I'm starting

741
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: and left and uh before the game, before the game,

742
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: before bank practice and one or the other.

743
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: This is a great story, man.

744
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: The other way it was bullshit, but here it comes.

745
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: I yet go out to walk out to the field.

746
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: There's Pat sitting in Charlie's office. So the mayor's office

747
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: in the old stadium was like right as you walk out,

748
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: so he's sitting in there, and I walked by. Jason

749
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: calls me in, sits me down, gives me this, like

750
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, heart to heart, and basically tells me what

751
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: I remember. Well, the only thing I really heard was

752
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: this is your this is your last chance in professional baseball.

753
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: And I mean I pretty much cried my whole way

754
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: to the dugout because it was like it was like

755
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: the saddest thing I've ever heard, right, Like, I mean,

756
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: how how could I be in this situation? Like, you know,

757
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: like like I haven't played three years and now like

758
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I got you know, two surgery and my wrists bang up.

759
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Now this is this is my last chance in baseball?

760
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Like this is it? Like all right? Like I think

761
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: I got it was I got two hits the first

762
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: night and four hits the next next night.

763
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 3: He went nuts, and.

764
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Then I go fight hit four fourteen in August, and

765
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't come off the field for ten fucking years.

766
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: That's all. Well, I never heard that thing about that.

767
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: And I'll just say this.

768
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 7: I know that Pat obviously had a great affinity to

769
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 7: He drafted you. He you know, he's known you for years.

770
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 7: He believes in pedigree, he believes in you know the

771
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 7: fact that you, you know, your whole family is so

772
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 7: fricking athletic. And and I think that he you really

773
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 7: meant a lot to him. And I think that that

774
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 7: he doesn't do that have those kind of conversations very often.

775
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 7: Maybe that's the only one I ever really remember him

776
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 7: actually having. And I think he cared about you so

777
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 7: much that he's like, man, I gotta I gotta figure

778
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 7: out a way to get this guy really to the

779
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 7: right space because I believe it.

780
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and that's and that's what it was. And

781
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: that's why it meant. It meant so much, I mean

782
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: because it hurt coming from him, you know, I had

783
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, he drafted me, Like I just couldn't believe

784
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: that this is this was it, you know, So I

785
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: think I was. I think I was like, and here's

786
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: my eyesmen was laced and my shoes up, you know

787
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: that it was. It was tough, but that was that

788
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: was what I needed, you know, And like Charlie was

789
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: tough on me, you know, for sure over those my

790
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: time at philiate. And but that that was an O

791
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: seven Pat. That was the first time, you know, Pat

792
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: really like put a shoe in my ass, and that

793
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: was what I needed. And I literally like, I mean

794
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: that changed. You want to talk about what changed my career?

795
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: Like the call that morning, you know, when the Dodgers

796
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: released me, and I said, I guess said was a

797
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: Philly That was you know, that was a moment. But

798
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: the really the one that really got me going was was,

799
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: uh was was that conversation with with Pat Gillick telling

800
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: me this is this is my last chance. I mean

801
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I literally like, I literally didn't didn't didn't stop playing

802
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: baseball for ten more years. So it was.

803
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 7: A credit to you to have a credit to you

804
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 7: to have done that, because there was a lot of

805
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 7: people who just said, oh, you know, could an a towel,

806
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 7: But for you to have done that, you deserve a

807
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 7: lot of credit for that too.

808
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. I didn't. I didn't believe that

809
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: I was done. I thought, I mean, I still believed

810
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: it myself. I still thought I was you know, who

811
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: I could could have could be or who I turned

812
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: out being.

813
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 7: Right.

814
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, I told that story this year at the

815
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: after the Belmont because I felt like that's where that's

816
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: where door knock was and going into Belmont. If he

817
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: doesn't win this race, he's never going to be in

818
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: this conversation of being a sire. He's never gonna be,

819
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, you know, in the conversation of the

820
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: greatest horses ever a horse of the year, three year

821
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: old of the year or whatever. It is, like, he's

822
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: never gonna be anything if he doesn't win this race.

823
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: And I literally went over to him to the barns

824
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: and I told him that story. I gave him the

825
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: PEPs off here and said, Pat told me this is

826
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: this was my last chance in professional basement. I will

827
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: tell you the same thing, buddy, this is your last

828
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: chance in horse racing. And banged him on the nose.

829
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: Out runs off the fucking screen.

830
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: That's sick.

831
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 7: That's that's an incredible story, Jason.

832
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: So those were both moments went after the Dodgers in

833
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 4: the moment in Wrigley Field.

834
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: I think you should name a horse after Pat, No doubt.

835
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Gilly the Philly.

836
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: Come on, Oh my gosh, that is awesome, Jason. I

837
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: got a couple more, just like a couple of really

838
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 2: dumb horse racing questions for you.

839
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: Your your gear that you wear for the races.

840
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: You got you're always got the good suit on, you

841
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: got a good hat.

842
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: The thumb came out all yeah, yeah, I'll ask me.

843
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: I'll ask you a question. I'll ask you the question

844
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: that while you're doing it, all right, see you you

845
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: can edit me out of this.

846
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're good, You're good.

847
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: I love you, Thanks so much, Jason be well.

848
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: A couple more Jason is is uh the the gear

849
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: that you wear, the hat, the suit, how much stuff

850
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: do you put into that? Because you you always look

851
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: real nice.

852
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the fun, right, you know,

853
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: if you want to you want to, like we always said,

854
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: you look good, you play good. And you know these

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Speaker 1: these horses, like if you win, you go in the

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Speaker 1: winter circle. You want to look good in the winter circle.

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to look proper, like you like you,

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Speaker 1: like you planned it. I should should see the get

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Speaker 1: ups we had for for the for the derby. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Julia had this unbelievable dress of those like roses.

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Speaker 1: It looked like she had roses on and you know,

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Speaker 1: and like we were just saying, well, you plan to win,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you know we had we had our

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Speaker 1: We were just at the Breeders Cup and our gear

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Speaker 1: for the Breeders Cup was was pretty impressive. I thought,

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Speaker 1: as well, and we've kind of you know, it's it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: sometimes different races have colored themes. So purple is the

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Speaker 1: Breeders Cup and we were all deck down in Purple

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Speaker 1: and uh, and we were supposed to run in that race,

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Speaker 1: but Doric retired uh before you know, before that race,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't run. But we we had planned to

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Speaker 1: be there and run. But uh, yeah, it's part of

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Speaker 1: it's part of the gig, right. It's like it's like

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Speaker 1: the it's like high fashion. You got the the weekend,

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Speaker 1: there's you know, there's always something going on, the parties,

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Speaker 1: the uh, the social circles. It's just it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's a great uh you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a great net networking experience. There was always you know,

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Speaker 1: fun and cool people you meet them, you know. I

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Speaker 1: was just the last weekend at UH at British Cupo

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Speaker 1: was there with with Winsall, Alex Bregman, and he had

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Speaker 1: a horse running and and you know, I haven't really

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Speaker 1: known I didn't really know him in baseball, but no

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Speaker 1: him in horse racing. A great guy, a great family.

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Speaker 1: And he named the horse that was was was running

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Speaker 1: his Governor Sam. He named him after his dad. His

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Speaker 1: dad's a prosecuting attorney and and he wanted them to

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Speaker 1: be a governor. So they named the horse Governor Sam.

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Speaker 1: And then that's awesome. Yeah, there's the storylines that go

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Speaker 1: in with these horses and everything. It's it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a lot of fun and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: the fashion and and then the hats. It's all about

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Speaker 1: the hats. So it's very cool.

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Speaker 2: And then my my last question is is the Pappy

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Speaker 2: van Winkle on tap at the Kentucky Derby.

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Speaker 1: Guy? Okay, all right, alright, alright, I watched the build

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Speaker 1: the video for the bell mon there's there's a bottle

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Speaker 1: of class sitting there, so that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jason, thanks so much. Man.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, jim and I we love people always

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Speaker 2: ask us all the time, like who you love covering?

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Speaker 2: We always say you were one of our favorites because

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Speaker 2: you're always super insightful and always fun to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: So Jimmy got something.

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Speaker 4: Well I can expound on that. How much we how

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Speaker 4: much we enjoyed covering you, Jason. One day, I'm not

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Speaker 4: sure when, but Todd and I were doing what baseball

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Speaker 4: writers often do, stand around waiting for people and getting

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Speaker 4: in the way, and we were kind of filled with

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00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: a moment of self clothing and uh, we sort of

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: looked around and we said Todd, You're gonna remember this,

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00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: which which one of these guys you think, you know,

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Speaker 4: if we'd have dropped dead tomorrow, any of these guys

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Speaker 4: come to our funeral.

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Speaker 3: And we started thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: We're going around the room, and we determined that Jason

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Speaker 4: Worth would come to our funeral and Chase might come

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Speaker 4: if he was in town.

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Speaker 1: Thank you good like that? Definitely, I definitely, I definitely

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Speaker 1: would you know you guys. You guys were great. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was I was kind of like, you know, odd

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Speaker 1: man out there when I got to Philly and and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was easy target at times. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we had we had a lot of we had a

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Speaker 1: lot of good good good fun, good times, good laughs.

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Speaker 1: And you guys were always some of my my favorite

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Speaker 1: guys I went to, I went to when I went

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Speaker 1: to Washington. I definitely I definitely miss you guys. That's awesome, man.

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Speaker 2: Well appreciate time and good luck with everything again. Jason

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Speaker 2: Check follow his horse racing career at on Instagram, at

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Speaker 2: two eight Racing and at Icon Racing LFG.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be fun.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you're back at some of these races next year

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Speaker 2: and and uh maybe putting some money on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep tabs on me. We'll see what. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how we do good talk.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I think you guys can see why Jim and I

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Speaker 2: particularly enjoyed covering Jason so much during his Phillies career

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Speaker 2: and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We will be back next week with more Phillies talk.

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