1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I Am all In. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Fowles you. 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 3: I Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 4: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: alone Productions, iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, iHeart Podcast. I Am all In 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 4: Again begins now, Season one, Episode one, the pilot Air 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: date October fifth, two thousand. This is the Amy Sherman 8 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 4: Palladino written, Leslie Lincoln Gladder directed, and I am joined 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 4: by none other than the very woman who stole this episode. 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Emily Carota played missus Kim. 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 5: iHeart Podcasts. 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Listen on the iHeart Radio app. Thanks for joining us 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: and welcome. 14 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, Scott. Good to be here. Nice to revisit this. 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: It is right. Yeah, So I watched the pilot again 16 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: last night. It's maybe the third time I've seen it. 17 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: You know what I noticed about it, other than it 18 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: being incredibly perfect every way, it had a little bit 19 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: of a slower pace, didn't it. It breathed a little 20 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: bit more than you know, the episodes. As we went 21 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: on in those seasons, everything got faster and faster and faster. 22 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: This seemed to breathe a little bit and it again, 23 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of felt like a film to me, really 24 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: great camera angles, terrific pacing, and it got fast when 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: it needed to get fast. Yeah, one thing I noticed, Well, 26 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: what did you notice about it? 27 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I was wondering maybe that that 29 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: had something to do with it being picked up by 30 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: Warner Brothers, because, you know, because we did take our 31 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: time in developing the characters and the audience would know 32 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: who we are and and I don't know, Yeah, I 33 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: like that pace. 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: Actually it got crazy after a while. 35 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: It did, right, It seemed everything seemed to speed up, 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: and I think for the benefit of the audience. But 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: this particular episode, this is my favorite episode of the 38 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: entire library of Gilmour episodes. Obviously, it's just so perfectly 39 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: crafted and Lauren just cuts through this thing beautifully. It 40 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: really was, you know, the coming out party for an 41 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: emergent star. Yeah, because she just handled everything with such 42 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: finesse and ease, and you know, hard to fall in 43 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: love with her in that role in that in that episode, 44 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: just a terrific coming out party for a lot of people, 45 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: but I think especially for her. And I thought I 46 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: thought you in particular stole the show. And the one 47 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: thing that almost made me fall out of the couch. 48 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: I will say now at this early juncture was when 49 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: you when you told Rory, boys don't like funny girls. 50 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: Oh god, all right, So anyway, so we uh, we 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: begin with this great camera shot of Lauren walking down 52 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: the street and into the diner with. 53 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: That wonderful song, and we start off with a bang, 54 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: her begging for a cup of coffee, and Joey arrives. 55 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Amy Brooke a lot of conventions, you know, because she 56 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: was doing a yeah. So I really appreciated it. 57 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Very funny lines, Oh so soon, and she's sixteen by 58 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, take a hike. And I loved how that 59 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: relationship began with mother and daughter where it was a 60 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: little bit you know, Rory was being a little bit 61 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: rebellious and she was quippy with her mother about having 62 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: so much makeup. And and of course we have the 63 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Luke Lorelei moments where we can't really read Luke very well. 64 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: He seems to be obviously hiding some feelings or he 65 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: really feels like this woman is annoying. And I remember 66 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: seeing it the first time going ooh, you know, and 67 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: I don't like watching my own work. I don't know 68 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: how you feel about. 69 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: Watching I'm with you. 70 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you really you just despise it? Yeah? Oh yeah, yeah. 71 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: It makes me very uncomfortable. And when I saw this 72 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: the first time, I I was like, ooh, I overplayed 73 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: this and he's he's a little too edgy right there. 74 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: But it kind of worked out. 75 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Oh it was perfect, Scott, Are you kidding? 76 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it was best. And I remember making 77 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: that choice, like, don't show a thing. In fact, go 78 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: the go the other way with it and take that 79 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: risk because it's gonna pay off, and you know it's 80 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: gave you that journey, right exactly. But anyway, wonderful opening. 81 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: An hour at the end and Michelle's on the phone 82 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: wall flipping through the mail and we're thinking, who's this guy? Right? 83 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, like what a great way to introduce all 84 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: of these characters and another another character you just do 85 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: not expect that he's going to be, you know, this 86 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: moody and this negative and this condescending and snobby and 87 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: ill tempered and you just love him right away. How 88 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: does Amy know how to create characters? I know? All right? 89 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: So now we're Rory and Lane, and this is when 90 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: I especially noticed the pace when Rory and Lane were 91 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: walking outside starts hollow and they're walking to school. The 92 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: pace was slower, it was different, it was more relaxed, right, yeah, 93 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: And she explains that they have a date, establishing that 94 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: they're best friends, and that Lane has you know, a 95 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: nightmare mom in how Rory defines things in her terms. 96 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: And she's being set up on a date with the 97 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: doctor and going on a hay ride, which is what's 98 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: wrong with that? And isn't an interesting how young everybody looks. 99 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: It was decades ago. 100 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: It was decades ago. We're pushing we're like into the 101 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: middle of the third decade of being past this thing, 102 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: so I should be surprised. One of the funniest bits 103 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: of the whole thing is Alex Borstein, who was originally 104 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: cast as Suki. She's pushing a harp, a giant harp 105 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: into the fourier, and she's telling people rudely, guests to 106 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: get the heck out of the way, big harp coming through, 107 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: you know. And so Laurlai, this is how we Madrella. 108 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: So Laura I rushes into the kitchen after hearing pots 109 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: and pants crashing. Now, Suki, as originally written, was hell 110 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: bent for leather if you will. She was going to 111 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: injure herself in every single episode. I wonder why. I mean, 112 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: as I recall, she got more coordinated and less a 113 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: danger to herself as the series went on. Right, But 114 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: this was one of the gags right away. 115 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: I loved it. 116 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: And I didn't know whether, you know, Amy, you put 117 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: that in for alex Or because they're friends, right, And 118 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: if they adjusted it for Melissa. 119 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, But yeah, I kind of missed it. 120 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious. 121 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was hilarious too. It really gave it. 122 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of the most clever devices 123 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: I saw on the pilot. Is this poor woman who's 124 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: so gifted, a chef who's who's just gonna and she 125 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: bumps her assistant in the head. Fine, it was like 126 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: watching an episode of The Three Stooges. Almost all right, 127 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Now we get to where the rubber really meets the road. 128 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Kim's antiques. All right, So Lane and Rory go into 129 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: your antique store home slash home. You shout from the 130 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: back that everything is half off as the girls try 131 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: to find you in the store. So Rory thanks missus. 132 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: Kim hates her. Lane tells her she doesn't like Laura 133 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I because she doesn't trust unmarried women. Tell us about 134 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: those scenes that you played with Lauren and what it 135 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: was like. 136 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: You know, it was really weird because we never really 137 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 3: had to rehearse it. 138 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: It just came naturally. 139 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: Lauren was just so easy to work with and so quick, 140 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: so it just it just happened and we navigated. I mean, 141 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: the set was crazy because they actually had stats and 142 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: stacks of chair that was kind of kind of dangerous 143 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: and paths that we and the cameras on a city camp. 144 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: But we found the little holes to talk through and 145 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: it just Lauren. 146 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: Didn't you think Lauren was just a dream to work with. 147 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: It was like intuitive, yeah, and there was a mutual 148 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: respect well you know me hating her. 149 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: All right, So now you ask the girls how school 150 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: was Roy jokes about a student glowing from pregnant because 151 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: your line was, no girls got pregnant today. You know, 152 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: you've formulated your opinions of American high schools and behavior obviously, 153 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: and that's when you delivered the great line. Can you 154 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: deliver that line for us, please? It's better if you 155 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: do it. 156 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: Okay, boys don't like funny girls. They don't they don't. 157 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Give me your overall impression of the pilot. Do you 158 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: remember when you first saw it? 159 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I was so proud to be a part 160 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: of it. 161 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 162 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: It was magical. I think she how she could set 163 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: up this the groundwork for the series, you know, with 164 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 2: each character. 165 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: And like with you, you know, it started off rough, but 166 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: then she planted that seed towards the end of the 167 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: episode where you look good. She planted the seed that 168 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna something's going to grow from that. 169 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: And the mother daughter relationships were so powerful. Yeah, so 170 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: it was clearly how much they love each other, which 171 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: is why how much, which is why they hated each 172 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: other so much sometimes, you know, And it was so rich. 173 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: So I was so pleased. 174 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: And I think after seven years, I think there was 175 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: only one recast that we had to do. But Amy's 176 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: intuition about Buddha casts it was brilliant, I think, because 177 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: everybody's instinct seemed to just click with the characters and 178 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: we all work together so well. It was magical, I thought, 179 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: And I think that's why it's lasted so long. 180 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: We Yeah, isn't it such a treat that after almost 181 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: two and a half decades now the show seems to 182 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: be and continues every year to grow and get larger 183 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: and get a new generation of fans as they discovered 184 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: on Netflix and download and binge. It's just an extraordinary experience. 185 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Did you know? And I'll throw out a little factoid 186 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: that from September two to September eighth, the Nielsen ratings 187 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: came out as they do every week for streaming shows, 188 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: which are downloadable shows. So basically they're talking about all 189 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: the streaming platforms because it's well, anybody does anymore? And 190 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: the number eight show in the world Gilmore Girls, and 191 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: we've been off the air since two thousand and seven, 192 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy six million viewer minutes in that 193 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: week alone, placing us number eight. And that was the 194 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: real highlight of the headline from the trades is that 195 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: I think Nicole Kidman and Leave Schreiber's the perfect couples 196 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: number one with I don't know one point five or 197 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: six billion viewer minutes. And it's a wonderful ROMP eight 198 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: episode limited series. And it's true. Have you seen it? 199 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: It's Oh, it's wonderful. It's just so beautifully written and 200 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: beautifully acted. But to be on that list continue to 201 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: be in the top ten. It's just it's wild to 202 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: even think about it. So anyway, Yeah, each year that 203 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: goes by, the luckier I feel that I was a 204 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: part of this, and it's just, you know, it's just 205 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: hitting you every single day. Yeah, yeah, we got pretty lucky. 206 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: So lucky. I mean, just think of all the shows 207 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: that you know, I think of all the work I 208 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: did before I got Gilmore Girls and where I could 209 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: have ended up, and the things that I was going 210 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: for and was so disappointed that I didn't get, you know, 211 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: because I was in the running for, oh my god, 212 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: so many things and how a career goes and you know, 213 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: I was it was between me and Michael Madsen for 214 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: Mister Blonde and Reservoir Dogs, and imagine what that could 215 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: have done for a career, right, And it just you know, 216 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I really believe that you get the thing that you're 217 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: ready for, you know, you really do. And I don't 218 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: think I was ready for that role. I think Madsen 219 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: was the better choice, right, I mean, I was probably 220 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: would have been a good choice, but Madsen is a 221 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: much better choice. He had the resume, he had the experience, 222 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: and he had the look that, you know, it was 223 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: all kind of perfect. So it's got to be perfect, right. 224 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Casting is so ultra specific, and that's what I think 225 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about with Gilmour Girls, is just how specific 226 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: everything is and how each character tailors and conforms to 227 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Amy's vision of what that character should be and how 228 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: she sees it in her head. So that's how it 229 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: works for her. And when you walked into the room 230 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: and did your thing, Bam, no questions asked. That's missus, Kim. 231 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: She's the same thing with me. She did the same 232 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: thing with everybody. Everybody like he knew, she knew and 233 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: she and that was a time when uh, you know, 234 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: film stars were jumping over into TV and that was 235 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: becoming a thing in two thousands. You know, it was 236 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: like so when I got this script, I don't know 237 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: how you felt, but I read this script and I thought, 238 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: this is just too good to be. You know, I'm 239 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: not going to get this, uh, And that's part of 240 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: the reason I got it, because I just threw it away. 241 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I worked on the audition. I went and 242 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: I gave a good audition, but I was giving a 243 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: good auditions every day, three times a day, and I 244 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: just stopped caring. I was like, it doesn't matter, or 245 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: just throw it away. You know, you're not going to 246 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: get the offer, but you're you know, this is your 247 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: time to develop a fan base amongst the casting community, 248 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: which is what it takes, you know, because they all 249 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: talk and said, you know, he came in for me 250 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: a couple of times and he's really doing a good job. 251 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: Maybe you should hire him, and let's bring him in 252 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: for this, and you know, he's just so so there, 253 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: ready to go. And you know, I think that's a 254 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: very common experience for people who you know, finally break 255 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: through with the right thing. And yeah, I think this 256 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: was the role for me. And I think I got 257 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: it because I was ready for it, because I had 258 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: that you know that what do they call it, the 259 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: dumb courage of the truly burnt out. Yeah, it's good. 260 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: I just didn't care anymore because I knew what the 261 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: answer was going to be. At the end of the day. 262 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: You know that I loved you, but it's just going 263 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: another way. I mean, how many, Emily, how many times 264 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: have you gotten that phone call? Yeah? 265 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: Right, but it's good to go in like like, well, 266 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: what the heck you know, and not caring that much 267 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: and just. 268 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that helps. 269 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: In a way because you're relaxed. I was relaxed. It 270 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: was like another one. I'm just kind of whatever. 271 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: You know, right, Is that is that how you approached 272 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: it too? Oh yeah, I just didn't care anymore. I 273 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: mean I was respectful. I was happy to be there. 274 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I liked everybody in the room. You know, Gavin was there, 275 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: Amy was there, Leslie Lincoln Glotta was there. Casting person 276 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: was there. It wasn't it wasn't the people that were 277 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: casting season two through the end. It was another casting team. 278 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: They were there, and I remember I read for them 279 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: and then they brought me to producers and I was saying, 280 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: oh great, Yeah, so that's when I met Amy the 281 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: first time. And uh yeah. I just remember it being 282 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, pretty relaxed and I like them. You know, 283 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: you can feel people, right, so I just like, oh, 284 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: these these are these are kind of my people. I 285 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: kind of feel these people. You know. Other times you 286 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: walk in rooms and you're like, wow, there's a wall 287 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: up and it's like, I this is not right, this 288 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. But I think I think the brave thing, 289 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: the courageous thing for Amy to do for everyone in 290 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: the cast was she had options that had main value 291 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: attached to them for every single role. And I bet 292 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: you every big agency in town, you know, the three 293 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: biggies C A, I, C. M. And William Morris and UTA, 294 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: four biggies who weren't being biggie at the time, but 295 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: now they are. We're throwing all their top clients at 296 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: the script. You had to figure that, right, I mean, 297 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and you feel that when you walk into most rooms 298 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: that European they don't want you. Let's just get through 299 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: this because I have to get back to the office 300 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: and try to close this deal for the star name 301 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: for this role. So they don't even want to be 302 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: there half the time when you walk in because like 303 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: who you know, who are you? And how are you 304 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: going to make my life better? You're not all right? 305 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Get through the reading, fine, bye, get out here. And 306 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: I know Amy and Dan were under the same kind 307 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: of pressure, but they fought for us. They fought for 308 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: every single person because I bet you the network was like, no, 309 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with star name, We're gonna go with 310 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: this name, and Amy was like, no, these are the 311 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: right care these are the right actors for these roles 312 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: and she stood firm so fighting for us like that, 313 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: and I knew that was the case. I mean, you 314 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: talk about loyalty, oh my. And people wonder why people 315 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: love Amy and Dan so much. This is the reason. Yeah, 316 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: they fight for what they believe in. Uh, they fight 317 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: for their artistic choices. They are uncompromising and you better 318 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: believe they're uncompromising. And I know, but you have to 319 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: respect that, you really have And Smike Gilmour. Girls is 320 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: so great because two people or true artists, were under fire, uncompromising, 321 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: stood their ground, got the people that they wanted, got 322 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: the budgets they needed, and made magic comes down to 323 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: two people, and they made all those decisions in the beginning, 324 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: all the artartistic decisions. So they fought for it. I 325 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: mean they and continued to fight for it. 326 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: And I think that's that's why it lasted so long. 327 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: That's why the quality was unheard of in television, unheard 328 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: down to the flowers. Remember the flower, Amy said, no 329 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: fake flowers. Little things like that make a big different 330 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: difference in the field of the product. You know, Yeah, 331 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: we had to be word perfect, but it made a different. 332 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if Amy will like this comparison. But 333 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, I read Walter Isaacson's biography of Steve Jobs, 334 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: who created Apple with Steve Wozniak, and the same kind 335 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: of personality, m super creative. Every detail of everything had 336 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: to be perfect, perfect, perfect, the way he wanted it 337 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: and envisioned it. It's like, this is the shape. You know, 338 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: you walk into the engineers and he'd say that that 339 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: you know the top people in the world, by the way, 340 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: who all have opinions, and he said, this is the 341 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: shape of this thing. Fix it, put it, make it work, 342 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: conform your engineering to this shape. And that's what Amy did, 343 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: said this is this is, this is what I want. 344 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. And she never gave an inch 345 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: to anyone. That's why audience out there you get to 346 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: enjoy these shows because you're dealing with two very very 347 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: special talents in Amy and Dan Palladino, giving of themselves 348 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: a two hundred percent every single day and fighting all 349 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: those fights to make sure that their quote unquote and 350 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: I hate to put it this way product is not 351 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: tarnished by any outside influences because they owned it, they 352 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: created it, it was theirs and they were going to 353 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: die on that Hill defending it, and they did, and 354 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: that's why, you know, we get some good episodes out 355 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: of season seven. There are some terrific episodes. And I 356 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: thought David Rosenthal did a very commendable job. But how 357 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: are you going to compete with that? You know, it's 358 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: an impossible task, an unenviable task. But thought he did 359 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: a great job, So I want to I love writers 360 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: so much. Writers to me are I don't know. I 361 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: think the true Creator is the most courageous of the 362 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: courageous because it's it's creating by themselves in a dark 363 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: room months on end, years on end. Well, at least 364 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: they had each other write Dan and Amy, but just 365 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: love writers. Got into the business because of a writer, 366 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Patty Chefski. I loved his writing so much after seeing 367 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Altered States and the hospital and network. I just that's 368 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: what made me want to be an actor. Is a 369 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: great writer wanted me to be an actor because I 370 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: wanted to say those lines. I wanted to say those 371 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: lines that William Hurt said as a young actor in 372 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: Altered States. I couldn't believe the dialogue that I was 373 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: hearing and that I was believing it, and that it 374 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: was sweeping me away and I was like, oh man, 375 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I want to do that. Oh oh, that's just great. 376 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, hats off to great writing. That's why this show, 377 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen, is what it is and why it 378 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: delights you and heals you, and it goes around the 379 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: world and makes help the world spin on its axis 380 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, and makes a world a 381 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: better place. So anyway, it's been great having you. Final thoughts, 382 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Emily Corota. 383 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: It was hard work making each and entry one of 384 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: those that's right. 385 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: And I remember Saturday morning at five am and Amy 386 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: going again, it's not right again, and Laura I say, 387 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm so tired. I'm not a robot, and Amy says, no, again, 388 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: it's not right. And that's what made Gilmoorger such a beautiful, 389 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: perfect show. 390 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: That's right. Thank yeah, and I thank her for that. Yeah. Yeah, 391 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: that's what it takes. Sometimes you don't when you don't 392 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: have anything left to give, and they still get it 393 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: out of you. 394 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: They got Yeah, she got it out of all of us, 395 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: exactly what she needed for her vision. 396 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I think Lauren and Alexis experienced 397 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: that more than everybody on the cast. You know that 398 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: exhaustion that I just can't do it anymore. I can't 399 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: go on. I need to just go home, home and 400 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: go to bed right now. But now we need a 401 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: couple more takes, you know. I mean, it's that level 402 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: of dedication. And yeah, Amy demanded it, and she got it. 403 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: She got it, and she got it from everyone. I know, 404 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: she got it from everyone. Nobody said no, nobody said no. Anyway, 405 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: it was a pleasure watching this episode and Emily, always 406 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: great to see you, and the work is stunning, just 407 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: absolutely stunning, great, great, great character actress, Emily Carota. And 408 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: that's going to wrap it up here, everybody. We will 409 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: see you next time. Best fans on the planet. 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