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Speaker 2: Continuing with the burning questions though here as part of

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Speaker 2: our NBA Season Preview series, Part four. Like I said

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Speaker 2: in our first question today, guys, we're gonna get people

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Speaker 2: people because if you talk about their team or their

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Speaker 2: favorite players, you get in trouble, especially when you call

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Speaker 2: them overrated. Yes, the question is most overrated team or

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with a team that had a

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Speaker 1: very good off season in the Brooklyn Nets. I think

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Speaker 4: Just got back from a trip. That's one year of

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. What will the Kyrie Irving be

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Speaker 1: Know, listen, I'm just saying that the Nets last season

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Speaker 2: Is this season though for the Nets, does it actually

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Speaker 2: mean anything with no KD Like, is this like a

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Speaker 1: No, they have to make the playoffs. I don't think

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Speaker 1: good pieces. These guys want to win. It's just I

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Speaker 1: wonder if last season, when you have so many guys

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Speaker 1: Now you're bringing a guy who's coming off a season

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Speaker 6: So you know, if.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie can sort of put his ego to the side,

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Speaker 1: and maybe last season was a big learning season for

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Speaker 1: words than great that the Nets will be a very

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Speaker 1: good team. I'm not sure. I'm just not sure that

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Speaker 1: I mean, this team should be looking at finishing certainly

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Speaker 1: in top six in the Eastern Conference anyway, all right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lee, you're right. I mean the question or I

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Speaker 4: guess maybe the goal for this season should be Kyrie

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Speaker 4: Irving should want to improve his reputation as a leader,

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Speaker 4: continuing the chemistry that the Nets had already built prior

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Speaker 4: to his arriving. Like you're saying, Skeis, it's probably a

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Speaker 4: lost season. You know, this isn't the year that they're

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Speaker 4: they want to have the pieces in place for next year, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: to be ready to challenge for the championship. You don't

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Speaker 4: want Kyrie Irving talking about how he's calling to apologize

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Speaker 4: to Lebron. You want him talking about how he was

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Speaker 4: full strength. It's a big year for Kyrie as a leader,

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Speaker 4: more so even than as an encore player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to get from the nets, not them

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Speaker 2: without Katie being like a seventh, eighth or ninth seed,

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Speaker 2: You need to you would hope to see them as

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Speaker 2: maybe a step behind still like the Bucks or the Sixers,

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Speaker 2: but then going oh wow, if they added Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: the finals in the East. I hear you on that,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's that is in place still. But

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Speaker 2: you're saying maybe a little overrated, probably like you're sayingly

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Speaker 2: because you've added two stars, but just one of them

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Speaker 2: in Kyrie, he does. He's got some still question marks

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Speaker 2: that surround him. Yeah, I just you got to assume,

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Speaker 2: like Anthony Davis, he's going to try and prove all

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Speaker 2: for their over career.

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Speaker 1: Actually yeah, but you also know in Boston there were

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Speaker 1: games where Kyrie won those games by himself, particularly against

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Speaker 1: the Raptors. Your mind, remember he can get forty five

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Speaker 1: points in a game, for sure and carry a team.

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Speaker 1: It's just there are times as well where he can

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Speaker 3: So there are forty two excuse me, in forty last

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Speaker 3: year with no real superstar on their team, with D'Angelo

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Speaker 3: Russell and Spencer Dinwiddie leading their team at in Kyrie,

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Speaker 3: how many wins do you think they end up? Because

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're they should be a top four seed.

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Speaker 3: They really should.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, forty five I would think would probably maybe if yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe a handful more, maybe forty seven. I just I

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Speaker 1: think they are going to miss again guy I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: Tomarriy Carroll and Jared Dudley. I think those guys kind

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Speaker 1: of really summed up what the Nets were. You know,

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Speaker 1: battle is hard workers, guys who just fought and scrapped

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Speaker 1: and were really productive. I think they're going to miss

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Speaker 1: those guys on the court and in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys got.

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Speaker 3: I think the Miami Heat are overrated at this point.

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Speaker 3: The Jimmy Butler addition, Sure he's great, but Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 3: is a number one guy. Look back to those two

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Speaker 3: years in Chicago. He was really leading them between fifteen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while, but I think that that's

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Speaker 1: Like if you try something in game one and it

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Speaker 2: My overrated team. I've talked about them a little bit

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Speaker 2: But still that seems that seems very high to me,

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Speaker 3: a playoff team. I think it'd be a huge disappointment

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Speaker 3: if they don't make the playoffs. They should grow as

432
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Speaker 3: a team, and the ship has steadied a little bit.

433
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Speaker 3: In Orlando. It was kind of a rocky ship for

434
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Speaker 3: the last few years. I kind of look at it

435
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Speaker 3: as like the Phoenix Suns. For several years, it was

436
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 3: just it was bad. But last year they kind of

437
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 3: found their way and it would be nuts for them

438
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Speaker 3: not to make the playoffs. Looking at that team, but

439
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 3: nobody talks about them as as a rock solid playoff

440
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Speaker 3: team when I'm sure they look around the locker room

441
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Speaker 3: and think that they are.

442
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think steady ship is the exact way to

443
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Speaker 4: put it. They know what they're doing. They play hard,

444
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 4: they're well coached, they're well prepared, they're not making a

445
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Speaker 4: bunch of mistakes, and it's like, you know you're gonna

446
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Speaker 4: get some post moves from Butuceovich. You know that DJ

447
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 4: Augustine's going to do a decent job in the pick

448
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 4: and roll. Aaron Gordon is the huge wild card. Is

449
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 4: he going to become Is he going to take the

450
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 4: next step and be, as Zach Lloways calls him, the

451
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 4: athletic version of Draymond Green, Or is he going to

452
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Speaker 4: try and be a worse version of Lebron where he's

453
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Speaker 4: handling the ball all the time. There is an All

454
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Speaker 4: Star somewhere in there and Aaron Gordon, I would think

455
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Speaker 4: just the way, he's a super talented guy, obviously incredibly athletic.

456
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Speaker 4: He can do a whole bunch. He just hasn't been

457
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Speaker 4: able to put it all together for an entire season

458
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Speaker 4: to really have an impact. If that ever happens, if

459
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Speaker 4: he ever actually takes that next step, they're a team

460
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Speaker 4: that I think is on the rise for sure, if

461
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Speaker 4: Isaac's able to make some moves as well.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they rose throughout the season last year defensively, Stave

463
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Speaker 1: Cliff It. It took him a couple of months to implement

464
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Speaker 1: that defensive system, but when it did, the Magic really

465
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: flew up the shots defensively. But again, you don't it

466
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Speaker 1: didn't really stand out because no one thought the Magic

467
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Speaker 1: or anything more than just fudda.

468
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Speaker 3: If they made the places, they don't have a real star.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah on those guys. If it's Gordon or I guess

470
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Speaker 3: Isaac could grow into those guys, then maybe we're talking.

471
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Speaker 3: But at this point now the.

472
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Speaker 1: Cliff has had a full season and an off season

473
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Speaker 1: to work with that team. If the Magic come out

474
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Speaker 1: of the gates, you know, better and fit and sort

475
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Speaker 1: of the way that they ended last season, then they

476
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Speaker 1: should be, you know, certainly looking to go up higher

477
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Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference.

478
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Speaker 2: Well, they re signed Vucevic four years, a hundred million.

479
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Speaker 2: They re signed Terrence Ross, you know, they're super sixth

480
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Speaker 2: man there, four years, fifty four million. They got Markel Foltz,

481
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Speaker 2: who is showing or appearing to be a player at

482
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Speaker 2: least in preseason action. He can give them anything. That's

483
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Speaker 2: obviously a huge bonus. Alfa Rukumino is in the mix

484
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Speaker 2: there too. Yeah, you're right, they finished on a tear.

485
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Speaker 2: Remember last season, like eleven and two down the stretch

486
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Speaker 2: and even really solid from the All Star break and

487
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Speaker 2: then of course took at least one game from the

488
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Speaker 2: defending champion Toronto Raptors. There, you're right there, not a

489
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Speaker 2: sexy team, but they do have Obviously they're well coached

490
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Speaker 2: because they finally do have a defensive backbone now, and

491
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Speaker 2: they got players guys that are just solid guys. There's

492
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Speaker 2: no guy that's gonna wow you. But I like Fournier,

493
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Speaker 2: I would throw into the mix with the wings that

494
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Speaker 2: you were saying there, and obviously vouch A. You know

495
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: a guy that does put up numbers. Lee thinks they're

496
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: shallow numbers at times, but there are numbers. They are numbers, nonetheless,

497
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Speaker 2: but they like they would be a big, big disappointment

498
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Speaker 2: if they had one of those just years where they

499
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Speaker 2: fell back to earth a little bit and struggle to

500
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Speaker 2: make the playoffs or something like. They remind me at times,

501
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 2: probably because of the Clifford Tie, to be honest, of

502
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: the Hornets that like would have a suddenly a good

503
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Speaker 2: year here or there and then just sort of have

504
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Speaker 2: completely fall off again just when you would start to

505
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Speaker 2: get excited about them and like, oh yeah, you know

506
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Speaker 2: they know what they know the makeup of their team,

507
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Speaker 2: they know the back one of their team, their defense identity,

508
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Speaker 2: and then they sort of would always just sort of

509
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Speaker 2: fluctuate a little bit. You hope that doesn't happen with

510
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Speaker 2: the Magic.

511
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Speaker 3: And they would be a natural trade partner for a

512
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Speaker 3: point guard because we mentioned Mark el Foltz, he's their

513
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Speaker 3: backup behind DJ Augustine. Yeah, they could use a point

514
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Speaker 3: guard like at Kyle Lowry if the Reps decide to

515
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Speaker 3: blow her up. But Chris Paul, which doesn't really seem

516
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Speaker 3: like it fits Chris Paul and Orlando, but a real guy,

517
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Speaker 3: a guy who balls out at that position. Because they

518
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Speaker 3: need a creator. Aaron Gordon hasn't been that guy. He

519
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: doesn't show like he can be that guy to do

520
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: it off the bounce. They need somebody with a little creativity.

521
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Speaker 2: Trade who you have for underrated team more player.

522
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Speaker 4: We have got a lot of incredible big guys in

523
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Speaker 4: the league right now. Anthony Davis, Karl, Anthony Towns, Christaps Porzingis,

524
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Speaker 4: who else, Yiannis Embiid. Yeah, you list a whole bunch

525
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Speaker 4: of names. Two guys who never come up though. John

526
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Speaker 4: Collins right here in Atlanta, basically a twenty to ten guy,

527
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Speaker 4: thirty five percent from three last year. He told me

528
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Speaker 4: and Lee this year he's gonna be putting the ball

529
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Speaker 4: on the ground, blowing by dudes as they close out

530
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Speaker 4: to him in the corner, then crushing it on their head.

531
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Speaker 4: He's calling out guys at media day. I don't necessarily

532
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Speaker 4: know if you want John Collins handling the ball a

533
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Speaker 4: lot when you got other ball handlers around, but he

534
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Speaker 4: looks ready to take another step, and he has been

535
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Speaker 4: an incredibly productive player for the Hawks. It's a great

536
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Speaker 4: pairing him and Trey Young. It gives him a little

537
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Speaker 4: bit of a future. I don't necessarily know if he's

538
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Speaker 4: the second star you're looking for, but he's certainly a

539
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Speaker 4: valuable piece going forward. The other guy, though, is Jaron

540
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Speaker 4: Jackson Junior. Nobody cares about the Grizzlies at all, but

541
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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get a lot of buzz on

542
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: the JJJ train this year. Fourteen and four last year,

543
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: basically a steal, a block and a half shot, fifty

544
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Speaker 4: percent from the floor, thirty six percent from three. He's

545
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Speaker 4: still incredibly young. I only see his abilities going up

546
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Speaker 4: and up. I think he's going to be a backbone

547
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Speaker 4: of the Grizzlies for a long time.

548
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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're good players.

549
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Speaker 1: I like the Hawks though as well, because in the

550
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Speaker 1: sense that they've got their building blocks that they've drafted

551
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Speaker 1: and in Collins and Trey Young, and then add to

552
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Speaker 1: that DeAndre Hunter and Cam Redish, who both of them

553
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: look like they're going to be ready to get minutes

554
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Speaker 1: early on this season, and then the veterans that they've added.

555
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Speaker 1: Alan Krabb. I think he's a solid guy. Again, he's

556
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Speaker 1: not a star, he's not a standout, but he's a

557
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Speaker 1: steady guy.

558
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Speaker 6: Evan Turner, I mean he's.

559
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Speaker 1: Bounced around a lot, but you know with Evan Turner,

560
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Speaker 1: he knows he's happy to come off the bench. He

561
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Speaker 1: can still get your basket or two there. So I

562
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Speaker 1: think there's some good mix of youth with the experience there.

563
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Speaker 1: I think Lloyd Pierce is a good co.

564
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Speaker 2: Can they play defense. Can they stop anybody that's that's

565
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Speaker 2: going to be their meat?

566
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Speaker 6: No?

567
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Speaker 1: Probably probably not. But you know, they can score. I

568
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: think they can score a lot, I agree with So you.

569
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Speaker 4: Know, they could roll out of power forward rotation of

570
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: Vince Carter Jabari Parker and Chandler persons. If they wanted to,

571
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Speaker 4: that could be their their four rotation. I don't know

572
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: if that's a lockdown set of furs, but those guys

573
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Speaker 4: are certainly in Atlanta.

574
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Speaker 1: Trade talked about John Collins and we were down there

575
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Speaker 1: at Media Day and I asked him about his defense

576
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Speaker 1: because he said to me, he goes, yeah, I want

577
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Speaker 1: to dunk on all these guys and you know who's

578
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Speaker 1: shooting the ball. Well, but he said also, that's where

579
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Speaker 1: he has to improve defensively. He wants to get two

580
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Speaker 1: blocks a game, so you know, he's aware that he

581
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Speaker 1: is going to be the sort of almost the backbone

582
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Speaker 1: I guess that of that Hawks defense.

583
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Speaker 6: Now, he's got a lot of work to do there.

584
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think if it's a track meet,

585
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Speaker 1: I think the Hawks can keep up with teams because

586
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: we know right now everyone just wants to get out

587
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Speaker 1: there and score as many points as they can. So

588
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Speaker 1: I think the Hawks, I think they should be looking.

589
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Speaker 1: You know, they'll be looking to make the playoffs. They

590
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Speaker 1: probably won't finish high and sort of seventh right there,

591
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: but I think that's that's okay for the progress and

592
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: their progression as the way they're going with they.

593
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Speaker 2: Just need to be in a playoff race. They need

594
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: to play in like sort of important games in late

595
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: March and April that even if they don't ultimately get

596
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: in and which would probably just result in a in

597
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: a sweep anyway, from the sixers of the Bucks, just

598
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: playing games that actually matter would be a huge, you know,

599
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: huge first step and then ultimately trying to make the

600
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Speaker 2: playoffs the next year after that.

601
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Speaker 3: I just had a TV flashback with Lee as I'm

602
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Speaker 3: sitting here beside him. You know, the several years we

603
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Speaker 3: did television that we just stopped doing it. Hearing leg

604
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Speaker 3: I was down at Media Collins and this is what

605
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Speaker 3: he had to say.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'll be down there this days and talking

607
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Speaker 1: all the brs.

608
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Speaker 2: Some thing's never changed. H Tash. You said the Magic

609
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Speaker 2: as an under underrated team. Uh, there's one other team

610
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Speaker 2: I think in the Eastern Conference that is definitely an

611
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Speaker 2: average team that generally just gets overlooked when we're talking

612
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Speaker 2: about Eastern Conference playoff teams and they're just not that sexy,

613
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: and in fact a lot of people just are like,

614
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: oh that team, the Detroit Pistons. The Pistons are the exactly.

615
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: But you say that, but they were a five hundred

616
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Speaker 2: team last year. Yeah, and they made, you know, some

617
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: sort of fringe moves in getting Rose and Morris and

618
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: the Armadello Cowboy Joe Johnson Tony Snell trade. You know

619
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 2: that's they They still should be sort of in the

620
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: mix to make the playoffs. I know they're not gonna,

621
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Speaker 2: you know, wow when he want and go Wow, Pistons

622
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 2: are gonna go on a deep run into the playoffs

623
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: by any means. But Blake Griffin in unbelievable season last

624
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: year and he got all NBA nods, so that that's good,

625
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: it was recognized. But in what he did with that squad,

626
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: they're not pretty, they're not sexy, but coach Casey solid.

627
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: We've seen what he can do with the Raptors. He's

628
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: gonna try and build on a forty one and forty

629
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: one record, and I think they'll be They're gonna be

630
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: right there in the mix. I don't see why not,

631
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, outside of a drastic injury to a guy

632
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: like like Blake Griffin, and maybe there maybe there's a

633
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: possible trade that happens with that. I'm Andre Drummond as well,

634
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: which could always shake up their roster.

635
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hope, like you know, because he ended the

636
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: season with that injury, I hope that he this is

637
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: not the sort of start of his decline really because

638
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: well we've kind of already seen that.

639
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: But he adapted his game, yeah, and starts suddenly becoming

640
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: a three point shooter and taking his game out to

641
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: the perimeter.

642
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

643
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: But four years before that, each season he was under

644
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: seventy games. And so that's why I'm a little bit

645
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: down on them, because he had the perfect season last

646
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: year and I just don't know if it can be replicated.

647
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Speaker 3: They're perfect season right until the end. Yeah, yes, yes,

648
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: and he was barely playing against the Milwaukee Bucks in

649
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 3: the playoffs, but the perfect season got them to the

650
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: eighth seed, and so you know, I'm just I'm a

651
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: little doubtful that that can happen again. It's not very

652
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: nice to say that about a man who's achieving the

653
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: best at his professional He looked amazing and he adapted

654
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: his game, as you said, And.

655
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: There's just something about coach Casey with a bunch of

656
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: true vets out there that just like, I don't know,

657
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: you can just see them grueling out a bunch of wins.

658
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: They really are like becoming that white.

659
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 6: The Raptors last year they had some success.

660
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: They're just like that YMCA team with the old guys

661
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: that you're like, I don't know how they pull this off.

662
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but they had that vibe to me

663
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: for some reason.

664
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little like Doc Rivers and the Magic

665
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: and he was coach of the Year. That that kind

666
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: of feeling, right he won that.

667
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't you win that with a five hundred record?

668
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: It was prior to the Sam Mitchell winning less than

669
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: fifty games back with reps. All right, our next one.

670
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: They had to ask it, especially because we're here in Toronto,

671
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: or at least two of us. Are are people sleeping

672
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: on the Raptors you're defending champs?

673
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: You answer at Skeith, are they are they taking a

674
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: napsy whapsie?

675
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Yeah, I guess they are, And but I

676
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: think that's almost It's like, why not you lost Kawhi Leonard?

677
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: You lost the guy that really did give you an

678
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: NBA championship. They're a great team. They had a great

679
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: record without Kawhi Leonard and they have great players in

680
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: Lowry and Van Vleet and Siakam and Danny when he

681
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: was there and stuff like that. I get that, but

682
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: you know, Kawhi won them title. He won them series

683
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: at times there to move them on to the to

684
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: the finals for the whole.

685
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: But they were good before Kawhi.

686
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: They were good before Kakwai, but they were not They

687
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: weren't title contenders.

688
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: No, but people, there's there's some people who don't think

689
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: they're making the postseason because.

690
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: Oh see that's no Yeah, that's exactly right. So yes,

691
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: in that regards, people are that's.

692
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: Lot's lock them into that playoff picture.

693
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a no brainer.

694
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: This is in the ninety nine Bulls. This isn't a

695
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: championship team that's not going to make the playoffs the

696
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: next year. I think they're a top four seed. The

697
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: years before Kawhi was there, the five years before that,

698
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: they made the playoffs and they averaged fifty two wins,

699
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: even got up to fifty nine wins with Kyle Lowry

700
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: and Demart de Rosen as your lead guys. Now Pascal

701
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: Siakam is there, They've got that Mark Gasol. I'm Connor

702
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: McGregor swag walking in to the arena now after winning

703
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: a championship, they've got a lot of good players on

704
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: the team.

705
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: You think that swag matters to the opponents and the

706
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: comment and say, wow, look at these tough guys walking in.

707
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: Where's Hi? I don't see him?

708
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: I think so, I never mind. I think there's enough

709
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: juice in that locker room that they're not They're not

710
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: gonna fade. I think they're good enough to win forty

711
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: eight forty nine games.

712
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: It is weird that they have. They're entering this season

713
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: as the defending champs, but now because Kawhi is left

714
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: and people are writing them off like okay, that was fun,

715
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: you got your one year by that they can have

716
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: this like weird like it's us against the world mentality

717
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: the rest of the guys on the roster. It's like

718
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: such a weird combo of like you're the defending champs,

719
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: but everybody doesn't believe in you. But then they can

720
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: use that to their advantage, maybe sort of locker room

721
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: you know, bulletin par material, just a straight It's gonna

722
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: be a strange Raptor season, but they are. They still

723
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: They're they're set up well to find out which of

724
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: their young guys in Siakam and Og can take it to.

725
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: Then if they can take it to the next level,

726
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: especially with all the expiring contracts, and then where Messiugeri

727
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: goes from there and then trying to get Giannis in

728
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: a couple of years, because that's exactly what's gonna happen.

729
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I believe in in Messigerie as well too. He won't

730
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: just sit on this and go, you know what, we

731
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: won it last year. I'll just let guys like Marc

732
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Gasol's contract and Surgeres run out. If there's a deal after, yeah,

733
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: he'll make that deal because he's not the sort of

734
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: guy who's like, all right, who cares now about this season?

735
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: He's going to want to show the fact that they

736
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: re signed Kyle Lowry for another season shows that you

737
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: know Kyle.

738
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: Guy and he wants to get.

739
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 6: I'm sure sure.

740
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think, what's his name, Massai,

741
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: and I spoke to him.

742
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: Last year at the finals.

743
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Here's what he had what he had to say when

744
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: when when all those memes are going around about Lebronto,

745
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: and that he was so offended and so hurt by that,

746
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: and he was so determined to make sure the Raptors

747
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: got better and they go on and win the championship. Now,

748
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: the fact that everyone is saying, well, the Raptors can't

749
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: win it this year, they can't go back to back,

750
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: I think that also is more fuel to his fire

751
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: that he's like, I'm not just going to sit back

752
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: now and you know, camp out and enjoy this. I

753
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: want to keep on winning and showing that I can

754
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: build a team without Kawhi that is capable of challenging.

755
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: They are a great trade partner for teams looking to

756
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: bolster their roster. We talked about Kyle Lowry. Even though

757
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: we got that extra year, everybody would be willing to

758
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: trade for it. It's not that long. It's twenty twenty one.

759
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: Marcasol Serge Ibaka are all on their last year of

760
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: their deals. This could be a team that gets blown up,

761
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: and it also could be a team in those three

762
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: guys that maybe they're too old and maybe they struggle

763
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: a little bit, and maybe you're relying on guys down

764
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: the roster like Stanley Johnson and Ronde Hollis, Jefferson and

765
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: those type of guys that might be a bit of

766
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: an issue. And maybe Fred van Vliet can't perform as

767
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 3: a starter if they throw them in there. There are

768
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: some worries that they're not going to be great, but

769
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: also who cares they got a chip? I don't think

770
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: they really care all that much.

771
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, why you guys are up there in Toronto.

772
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: This one's for you more j do you Why don't

773
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you go and have a bottle of wine with Marcas?

774
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: Al?

775
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: Okay, sure sure, skullt Timpannio.

776
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it might be.

777
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need a glass, you just need to

778
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: pop the cork and start guzzling away with him.

779
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 5: I drank all my one all the time. He's one

780
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: guy in the NBA I feel like I could be

781
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: friends with.

782
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just connect with them.

783
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: Well, he can drink as much as I can, so

784
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 5: that's good.

785
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

786
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: Uh, And he's just nice guy. He's trying to hang

787
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 5: out with him.

788
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. We have had the honor to have

789
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: him on the show with his brother Peasol back in

790
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: WHOA what was that two thousand and Brooklyn.

791
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 6: Fifteen All Star.

792
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly right.

793
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: You're right.

794
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. Let's go hunt him down. Let's

795
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: do it all right, Let's go try find every Raptor.

796
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: That should be our challenge get a photo with every

797
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: Raptor ture you're not as high on the like do

798
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: you think people are Are you sleeping on the Raptors

799
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: or for a reason or where do you fall with them?

800
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 4: H to me, I see best case scenario, they get

801
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 4: home court advantage and win a first round series. That's

802
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: me is the ceiling for this Raptors team. Worst case

803
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: scenario is looks overwhelmed as the number one option, Lowry

804
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: gets hurt, and Messia says, well, the plan was if

805
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: we didn't win a championship with Kawhi, we would blow

806
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 4: things up. Anyways, let's accelerate the rebuild. And the rebuild

807
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: is on by the trade deadline because like Tasa Sayan,

808
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: Gasol and Obaka have big contracts that are expiring, their

809
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: older guys who are going to be valuable to a

810
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: contending team like they just were to the Raptors. So

811
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: if you know, if everything breaks poorly early in the

812
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 4: season for Toronto, I can see them moving on onto

813
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: the next phase. Massa would I'm sure enjoy the challenge

814
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: of building another team. Yeah, around Pascal Siakam as the

815
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: main guy with more of a clear sheet to try

816
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: and figure things out. But that being said, I just

817
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: assume they're a playoff team. I just assume they're going

818
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: to be in there. The institutional continuity is is going

819
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: to be huge guys like Lowry, Gasol and Abaca. Just

820
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: give you a high floor. Your team's not going to

821
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: be terrible as long as those guys are on the court.

822
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: Test do you if you're a massi Ugerie and the

823
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: Raptors organization is Pascal Siakam and Noil Rayner for Max

824
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: contract extension, you don't anythink twice or are you hesitant?

825
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: I don't think twice in this day and age of

826
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: the NBA. I think I think they're tradeable. I think

827
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: he's tradable, especially with all those numbers coming off the books.

828
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: It'll be him and everybody else really at the end

829
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, and so it's

830
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: not it's not crippling by any means. No, And I

831
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: think you can pay a couple of max guys. I

832
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 3: think he's shown that he could be a number two

833
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: scorer on a championship team right there. You know, with

834
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: Kyle Lowry, Kyle Lowry still doesn't get respect. I think

835
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: for his finals performances that I watch every single night,

836
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: he was awesome. But but Pascal was. They're sort of

837
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: their number two guy. I think you pay a you

838
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: can have a max slot for number two guy in

839
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: the NBA, so he fits that.

840
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take our little intermission break here before

841
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: we get to a couple more questions in part four

842
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: of our NBA Season previous series test, it's your summer

843
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: story time. What'd you get up to?

844
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: Well?

845
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: Probably not as exciting as Trey and Lee at least

846
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: Jon von Jovi, for God's sake, or wakeboarding. But I

847
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: guess the most exciting thing I did was I spent

848
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks in Israel or is it Palestine?

849
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: Or is it Israel or is it Palestine? Don't talk

850
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: politics on the show, idiot, But I think the best

851
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: thing I did for myself was it took some piano

852
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: lessons and that was.

853
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: How they go.

854
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, and I brought one right here.

855
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm not not good at it. I did buy it.

856
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: I did buy a piano, not a Baby Grand but

857
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: a digit, a digit piano, and it feels great, feels

858
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: great to get on the keys. It's it's very good

859
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: for the brain. Two hands. How do you play an

860
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: two hands? It's a lot easy, but no, I'm not

861
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: good at it. But it's just it's a nice little hobby.

862
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: It's a nice little hobby. I mean I can get

863
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: up there and play a are you sleeping? Are you sleeping?

864
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just three keys? Isn't it two hands?

865
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: Man?

866
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: Is it three keys? Now?

867
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 6: It's all it's like three blind mindsets. It's the same.

868
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: But you got a left hand. You got to get

869
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: your left hand?

870
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Has this Has this been something you've been like considering

871
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: for a while, like wanting to play an instrument or

872
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: wanting to play the piano.

873
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just like wanting to play wanting to play

874
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: an instrument, as you mentioned on the Free Agents podcast

875
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: the summer.

876
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Batty, oh yeah, he gave me his guitar. So

877
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: we got to start a band.

878
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: Do it?

879
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: Guys?

880
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: Wow?

881
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need it's going to be the singer.

882
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 6: Why you're up there in Toronto.

883
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Get Nicknase and that he's always got the guitar, right,

884
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right.

885
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's a it's a hard instrument. I've got

886
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: my adult one textbook I'm adult version one, so we're

887
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: trying to get through it. It takes a long time.

888
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: So do you actually have you've you've gone to lessons

889
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: or had someone come to your house like you've gone

890
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: that to that, I went yeah, wow, okay.

891
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to uh to a teacher in her home.

892
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: As I left, a twelve year old would take my

893
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: spot bench. Yeah, and uh, I felt good. And sometimes

894
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: like a cool looking guy would chunk come in after me,

895
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: like a not a cool looking twelve year old, cool

896
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: looking man, and so I felt a little bit better about.

897
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: My little head. Nod to that guy.

898
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a cool playing the piano with

899
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: your tattoos. Yeah, and what like.

900
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: You just sit you sit down in like it is

901
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: an hour lesson.

902
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: Well it's it's you have options thinking the piano lesson

903
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: World thirty forty five six Ye yeah, I did a

904
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: forty five or generally.

905
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: So you're learning the basics right now, right yeah?

906
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah.

907
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: Did any of your recording playing skills your recorder excuse me,

908
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: playing skills translate to to the piano.

909
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: Sure, you know the no, if you are musical, your musical,

910
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: I mean reading, that's right. Reading reading music is not

911
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: I don't know it's fun, but yeah, I don't think

912
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: that's somethinking. Never really lose, I'd say, so.

913
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: You can read music like fairly confidently.

914
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 3: I'm fluing.

915
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: Every good boy deserves fudge. Yeah, air conditioning electric, Guys.

916
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: Is that a basque cleft? Or at your cleft?

917
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: I did not expect to be talking clefts today.

918
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 6: That's your favorite nobody you'll be left.

919
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: Man, No, I haven't. I haven't worked up to the

920
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: second level straight note?

921
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: Do you have not? Did you have a gold task,

922
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: like to be able to play like a certain song

923
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: or by a certain point or is it you know?

924
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: Do you like do you have that pinned up somewhere

925
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: be able to play something?

926
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Every morning when I wake up and wash my face,

927
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 3: I look into the mirror and I have a note

928
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: sitting there that says, play Billy Joel.

929
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 5: Jano.

930
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Man, I'm not piano, you know? Like you It's like

931
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: you mentioned you want to be able to play a song.

932
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: I think, uh, yeah, I want to be able to

933
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: play a song.

934
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: You guys got to learn the same song you got,

935
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: but it's gotta be the same.

936
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: We have to We got to pick that song test.

937
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: That's a good call.

938
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing. You know, we live in this social

939
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: media world, so I want to I want to post

940
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: post me playing Yeah these these really really basic notes.

941
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 3: But there's nothing more humbling than looking terrible or playing

942
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: terrible music and posting it. So I won't do that.

943
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: All right, that's great. This is a great development. I

944
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: can't wait.

945
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 3: It's hard, but it is. But it also could easily

946
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: be one of those those hobbies like you shout out

947
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: to Matt Austin, who would develop or you know, he

948
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: would jump into a hobby and then poof, the hobby

949
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: goes away. But easily. Because I'm starting, it's starting to subside.

950
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: I just I'm not getting on the bench and playing

951
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: the piano every day to get practice.

952
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 5: You got to brat. I just wanted to buy a piano.

953
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: You're just like Madi. He buy buy the gear.

954
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. The one great Maddio hobby was

955
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: that he was going to get into hiking and he

956
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: went into like the Mountain Equipment co op store and

957
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: he was in there for like six hours. It was

958
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: like three times longer than any hike he ever did,

959
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: just buying all the gear but you know what's funny

960
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: about that. He didn't do a ton of hiking when

961
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: he was in Georgia. But now, how now since he's

962
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: gone to l A, I think he is doing a

963
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: little bit more so.

964
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said he navigated his way from Atlanta to

965
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 4: l A using the compass he bought it.

966
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: Wow.

967
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: My point is, Tess, in a couple of years, when

968
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: you find yourself out in la then that's when you're

969
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: gonna really pick up a piano. That's then you'll be

970
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: playing in a man and stuff like that.

971
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 6: You're piano.

972
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

973
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 6: I think it's fantastic.

974
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: We have We have the keyboard at home because you know,

975
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: my seven year old he was like, Dad, I want

976
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: to play the piano. So I thought, all right, you know,

977
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: you try to encourage it.

978
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: Say no, no, no, no no. Wait thirty years.

979
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah I should have because he played with it for

980
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: like two days and now.

981
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: It's just collecting.

982
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, definite, But I've had I've tickled it around a

983
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: little bit. It's you know, because I want to play

984
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: like Bohemian Rhapsody or something like that.

985
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 6: But you know I don't. I don't want to learn.

986
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 6: I just want to be able to go.

987
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: Too.

988
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: Man, it's so awesome be born a piano product. But

989
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: guess gott to learn it instead.

990
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 6: I know that God got to it herself, so just hope.

991
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want like in the matrix where it's like

993
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: I want to be able to fly a helicopter and

994
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: you just download it to your brain and then suddenly

995
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: can play a helicopters.

996
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Have you, Matt dropped off the pier the guitar to you?

997
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: Have you? What's going on? How are you picking?

998
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

999
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: You're tickling. I'm picking. Not a lot of picking going on.

1000
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: I've obviously I left it in Atlanta. I didn't bring

1001
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: it up with me to Toronto.

1002
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1003
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: I didn't feel confident, as Nick Nurse carrying that on

1004
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: a plane. No, let's be honest. I pulled it out

1005
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: when he when it got first dropped off, I did

1006
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: a little strum in a little picking. Norah told me

1007
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: to put it away. What are you doing? So then

1008
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: I put it beside. It's into my office and it's

1009
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: sat in the bag ever since. But I keep looking

1010
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: at it. I thought, if I keep it out, yeah,

1011
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: that'll help me eventually, you know, unzip it and play

1012
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: it again. But yeah, I'm behind you. You're you're ahead

1013
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: of me. Don't learn too quick tas.

1014
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's not that's not gonna be okay, okay, yeah,

1015
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: but keep it out. That's that's why I have my

1016
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: piano on my kitchen island. Okay, Yeah, I see it

1017
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: every morning.

1018
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: You just walk by.

1019
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: It with your.

1020
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 5: Sitting on the island.

1021
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, one key and day. That's what you need to do.

1022
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: I learned something, all.

1023
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: Right, excellent stuff. Okay, let's let's get back into the

1024
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: questions here. Our next question is another warrid guys who

1025
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: wins sixth Man of the Year and tell me why

1026
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: it isn't Lou Williams again.

1027
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1028
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's just like take Lou out

1029
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: of this as an answer, because otherwise we all just

1030
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: Golu Lulu and then we move on.

1031
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's an option.

1032
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1033
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: I think I've got a couple of guys who I'm

1034
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: going to throw out there because it's actually a kind

1035
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: of interesting award without Lou there. I think his teammate

1036
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Montrez Harrold, if he comes off the bench again, which

1037
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: he probably will, he could be in the mix.

1038
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 6: He was in the mix last season.

1039
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown came off the bench a lot last season,

1040
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: probably will start that way.

1041
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: Is it Gordon Heward or Jillan Brown?

1042
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I suspect.

1043
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: One of those two would be a good can which

1044
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 4: everyone's on.

1045
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: The back yep. And then also what about old Freddy.

1046
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Fvv he might start though, Yeah, yeah, there's that's the thing.

1047
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 6: A couple of these guys are.

1048
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: I will pick Montrez though, because again I think the

1049
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: Clippers are going to have a big season. They're going

1050
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: to have a lot of attention, and Montrez is great

1051
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: in that role coming off the bench. He can score,

1052
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: he can defend, and uh, you know, lose the peace

1053
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: of course, but uh Montres outside of lose my choy Lou.

1054
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: If he wins again, that would be his fourth, I believe,

1055
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: sixth Man of the Year, which would break the tie

1056
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: that he has with Jamal Crawford.

1057
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: He's not going to win it this year, you'll think,

1058
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: so I will come out and say it. Yeah. I

1059
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: think he's going to be less integral to the Clippers' success.

1060
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: I think he was their closer last year. Yeah, he

1061
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: was the guy who had the ball for him in

1062
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. That's not going to be the case

1063
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George both in the lineup,

1064
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm not even sure Lou Williams will be playing in

1065
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: the fourth quarters. If they're going with a more defensive lineup,

1066
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: you're going to see Patrick Beverley out there, because Lou

1067
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: Williams isn't the guy you want out there for defense.

1068
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: He has to have the ball to be playing, and

1069
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: so if he's playing a little bit less often, I

1070
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 4: think people will be ready to look for a new

1071
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: sixth Man of the year, another guy you would think,

1072
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: maybe Eric Gordon, but he's probably going to start a lot.

1073
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 4: They don't have a lot of depth for the Rockets.

1074
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: They're going to want to play their best players more often.

1075
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: He might go a little bit. He might hit over

1076
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: forty two starts or something like that, take him out

1077
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: of the running. That's why for me, get your dinwitty dollars,

1078
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: we're going to the back. Spencer Dinnwoody's my pick. He's

1079
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: probably not going to start. I think he will be

1080
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: a closing guard for them. That's either for Joe Harris

1081
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 4: or Kris LeVert, kind of depending on the game and

1082
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: the situation. But I think he will fit next to

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00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving, regardless of who else is out on the court,

1084
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: some rollin Spencer Dinwiddie, he was.

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00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: Definitely on my list. I'm going to take Bug Bogdanovich

1086
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: with the Kings because he's definitely one of their best

1087
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 3: five players. But because they're so deep, they're really balancing

1088
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: things out. He can come in and just get buckets.

1089
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: He's a natural score, and he's already developed some a

1090
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: really good relationship like Lou Williams with Montrez Harrold. He's

1091
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: developed a pretty good relationship with Dwayne Dedmon there as

1092
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: a big so he's he's my guy. I know think

1093
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: Lou obviously has a great chance, but I would put

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00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: Derreck Rose up there as well. I think in Detroit,

1095
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: Blake Iffin's going to be happy to give him all

1096
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: the shots in the world when it comes down the

1097
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 3: stretch like he did last year with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

1098
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: How many the averagees think it was something like nineteen

1099
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: points per game. But I think the voters don't really

1100
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: want to give it to Derrick Rose for someone just

1101
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: because he was an MVP. I guess I don't know,

1102
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: there's something, there's something there where he doesn't doesn't seem

1103
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: to get the votes that he really deserves.

1104
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: I would throw two more in the mix. Terrence Ross,

1105
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: even though he just got paid. As I said, he

1106
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: comes off the bench, and if he shoots like he

1107
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: did last year and how many threes that he was

1108
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: knocking down, shot thirty eight percent from three, scored fifteen

1109
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: a game off the bench, if the Magic again maybe

1110
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: shock some people and are one of the better teams

1111
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference, I think he'll get some deserved

1112
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: love in that role. And I think that is sort

1113
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: of the perfect role for a guy like him and

1114
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick. Well, JJ Reddick with the Pelicans could be

1115
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: coming off the bench back to that sort of role

1116
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: and can fill it up obviously, so even still at

1117
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: his age, so he could warrant some love if the

1118
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: Pelicans are have a good record, which we've talked up

1119
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: a little bit about. So yeah, I'm intrigued by the

1120
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Gordon Hayward or Jalen Brown or like one Celtic whoever.

1121
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: If somebody really grabs that role and runs with it,

1122
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: I think could put up some pretty good numbers. But

1123
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: I went with Lou Williams as my default last year

1124
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: and it worked out for me. I'm sticking with it.

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00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, Trey, that you make some great,

1126
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: great points. But that whole said, they even guys like

1127
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: Kawhi and Paul George, like they respect the hell out

1128
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: of a guy like Lou Williams AND's like, just go

1129
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 2: get a bucket when we need one. And he will

1130
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: always be able to create a shot, that's for sure.

1131
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: So it's a there's potential there for him to score

1132
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: close to twenty a game off the bench. I think

1133
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: it was twenty last year. It was like twenty two

1134
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: the year before. So you just got to put it

1135
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: in pen. Lou Williams set in records here. It's crazy.

1136
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: That would be his fourth and that would be his

1137
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: third in his row, third in a row actually for him.

1138
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: Next question, simple one. Who wins the scoring title? Twenty

1139
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: nineteen to twenty NBA Scoring Title?

1140
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: But you got I know where we're gonna have some

1141
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: disagreements here.

1142
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: I think we will. I mean, well, first off, how

1143
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: you can't go Harden? I mean, you don't. Guy average

1144
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: thirty six points per game last year.

1145
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: It's easily hardened for me, easily. Okay, Yeah, he had

1146
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 4: an eight point gap to Paul George, who was second

1147
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: in scoring last year, and everybody's like, wow, what about

1148
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook coming in to play with James Harden, his

1149
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: numbers are gonna go down. Guess who played with Russell

1150
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 4: Westbrook last year? Paul George, he was second in scoring.

1151
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook is used to playing with the high usage guy.

1152
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 4: James Harden is gonna be more high usage than anything

1153
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 4: he's used to. Ye The gap, but from one to

1154
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: two eight points is so huge. I you know, Harden

1155
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 4: could fall off four points and he's still blowing the

1156
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: competition away. The guy is unstoppable as a one on

1157
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: one player. He's gonna have a little bit more space

1158
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 4: perhaps catching the catch and shoots. He's gonna knock those down.

1159
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: I think Harden's the pick.

1160
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a bad pick. It's a very good pick.

1161
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: With thirty six points per game, how do you dispute that.

1162
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: But I think it's the year of Steph. I think

1163
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: he's gonna pop it, pop it up to about thirty two,

1164
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: and James is gonna come down a little bit. And

1165
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: I think I think as his final of the year,

1166
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: James Harden says, I don't have to score every bucket

1167
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 3: on this team. I'm not gonna go for MVP this season.

1168
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna save it, save it a little bit for

1169
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: the postseason, and they should be neck and neck. I

1170
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: think Steph is going to you know, with El Kevin Duran,

1171
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: he's going to go off. But I think it's those

1172
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: two guys in the end.

1173
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 6: I agree also with Steph.

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: I think just because of the workload, the extra workload,

1175
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: and he's going to play off the ball a little

1176
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: bit more so he's going to be just shooting a

1177
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: lot more that he's going to have more opportunity. I

1178
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: think he could average thirty again like he did in

1179
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: his first or second MVP season.

1180
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 6: I think it was.

1181
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: But a guy I mentioned earlier who I think could

1182
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: be in the top three is Zach Lavine. I. I

1183
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: just think he's going to get the opportunity there in Chicago,

1184
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: and I think he put up twenty three last season.

1185
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: I think he could get up to twenty eight a

1186
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: game there in Chicago. He's you know, he's a versatile guy.

1187
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: He's improving his three point shot, so there's no reason

1188
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: why he shouldn't. I'm not sure he can lead the

1189
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: league because there are some of the guys, and of

1190
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: course hard and he's going to go for it again.

1191
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: But it'd been interesting to see if Zach can make

1192
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: that leap to that sort of a level of a scorer,

1193
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: because you know, he's getting a lot of early buzz

1194
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason here, but it's a lot different when

1195
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: it comes to the big stuff.

1196
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: It's like, though, is Zach Lavine basically sort of our

1197
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: next to Marten sort of vibe? You know, right where

1198
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: they can get buckets, don't get me wrong, and they

1199
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: can they can do so in style in times with

1200
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: big dunks, but yeah, can you do that? I know

1201
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: there was that huge Derosan run that he went on

1202
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: there that one time, but can you do that night

1203
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: at night out over you know, seventy plus games, that's tough.

1204
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: But you know, Zach Lavine, could he be flirting with

1205
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: thirty per game? Could Bradley Beal be flirting with thirty

1206
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: per game on the lowly Wizard's team? Lillard of course, like,

1207
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: does he have even a next little stepped and bump

1208
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: his up for what was he last year? He's probably

1209
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: like twenty six, twenty seven six, Yeah, twenty six Towns Booker,

1210
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of guys that that's not

1211
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: easy to do thirty average thirty points per game, But

1212
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: there's a feels like there's a lot of guys. I'm

1213
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: with you, though, I think Harden no brainer. Still, he's

1214
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: finished in one of the top two spots on the

1215
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: leaderboard in points per game over the last five seasons.

1216
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: He's either first or second, So he's gonna be there again,

1217
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: even with Westbrook, and I think he actually does run

1218
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: away with it, so to speak. Again, Curry's gonna be there.

1219
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: And I think Anthony Davis, if healthy, trying to shut

1220
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: up the haters like Lee Ellis, could be putting up

1221
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: some massive, you know, points per game numbers. So I'd

1222
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: have those sort of three harding Curry and Ad with

1223
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: Harden at the top and then maybe career a D

1224
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: one two or you know two three, I should say,

1225
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: But let's hear from you guys on that one hashtag

1226
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: no dunks on Twitter. Who wins the scoring title? All right?

1227
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: Our final one for this part got to end with

1228
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: a staple. When it comes to our NBA season previews.

1229
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: We've been doing this one for a long time. It's

1230
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: a lot of fun, it's very stupid guys. What is

1231
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: your fantastic New York Post headline for this upcoming season?

1232
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: What are we going to see in that New York

1233
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: paper about the Knicks? Likely?

1234
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: Well, you remember that Kevin Durant was asked about joining

1235
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: the Knicks in the off season and he said, ah,

1236
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, I sort of thought about it, but they

1237
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: kind of uncool. Right. Well, the Knicks and the Net

1238
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: play in Brooklyn the second game of their seasons, So

1239
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I think what's going to happen is the Knicks are

1240
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: going to come in super motivated to get a win,

1241
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: and on the New York Post the next morning, there's

1242
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: going to be KD on the bench, just like you know,

1243
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: wearing jeans and a hat, and it's going to say

1244
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: cool story.

1245
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 6: Bro, that's not bad.

1246
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. You can see them going with that too.

1247
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh I like that one, all right? What do you

1248
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: think of what do you think about those comments?

1249
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 4: Quickly?

1250
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: Le get does he have a point about the Knicks

1251
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 2: and you're just not cool for a long time?

1252
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a good point.

1253
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Knicks we've always heard, we always

1254
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: hear the Knicks and the Lakers, you know, the two

1255
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 1: biggest markets, but it has been a long time since

1256
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: they've been able to track the big players. Obviously, the

1257
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: Lakers the last couple of years have done well, but

1258
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: the Knicks have been a disaster for a long time.

1259
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 4: Really, do you think they're cool?

1260
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 6: They are? Still? Yeah, they are.

1261
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: I mean, would you buy a scalp ticket to a

1262
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 4: cool New York Knicks game?

1263
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 6: Well, I haven't bought a ticket for a long time.

1264
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: Why don't you check out the game time? Mat? I think?

1265
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I think the thing is Madison Square Garden. You know,

1266
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: it always has that luster of a backlay center, Yeah,

1267
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: doesn't it?

1268
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so, But it really has been since

1269
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: Eddie Curry. It's been a long time since they've been't good?

1270
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 6: No, I know, I agree.

1271
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: It's just so for Kim Drand it kind of makes sense.

1272
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 3: You know, guys in there at thirty years old? When

1273
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: was when were they good? When they were little, little

1274
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: little boys?

1275
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean twenty twelve, the last time they made the playoffs?

1276
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: I think was it that the Mell j R. Smith

1277
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: Celtics mix here? Yeah? Probably?

1278
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1279
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: All right, So you're going with a cool story bro

1280
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: cool story brokes pick up an early win versus the

1281
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: Nets in Brooklyn and Okay, I like it. What do

1282
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: you what do you guys got?

1283
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: Just the run of the mill Mitchell Robinson catches a

1284
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: huge allee, but it's the number one play all around.

1285
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 4: And on the cover of the New York Post, Big

1286
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: Lob Rob.

1287
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: Big Lob Rob, bigb Rob. Well, I thought you were

1288
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: gonna go with I was gonna go with a here's

1289
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: you Mitchell Robinson twenty twenty game from him in his

1290
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: second year, Like he just balls out one night and

1291
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: just keep it simple. Here's to you, Mitchell Robinson. But

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Speaker 2: I like big Love Rob too.

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Speaker 3: I can play that on the piano.

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Speaker 2: Excellent.

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Speaker 3: That's my goal for me. I like the idea that

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00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 3: Lee's going with it. It's basically going to be about

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00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: an opponent in a way because it's such a depressing

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: season for the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: You have no you have no hope in the Knicks

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00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: this year. I know they won what seventeen games last year,

1301
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: and then they went and added a bunch of power forwards.

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00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: Last Frank Neelakina is French Frank Neela Achina f They

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00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: summer like, who do they have?

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00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1305
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 6: But Julius Randall RD Yeah.

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00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: Argie bar and Julius Randall are their hopes for sure,

1307
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: those guys have to be great. Nope, not gonna for me.

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about krisaps Worzingis, a former New York Nick.

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00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: When they play the Dallas Mavericks, it's the headline, is

1310
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 3: just gonna be zinged with a picture of Chris aps

1311
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 3: Porzingis in his Mata jersey pointing subheadline Porzingis drops forty

1312
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: on Knicks. He's gonna he's gonna go at him. He

1313
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: is definitely gonna go at them when you play. That's

1314
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: gonna be a good game.

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

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00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: It will be a big time revenge game. Yeah, that's

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00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 4: gonna be exciting.

1318
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: Oh yes, especially with the Knicks.

1319
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: Ye crazy, that is.

1320
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a fun game, right, So yeah, I'm

1321
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: going here's to you Mitchell Robinson after a big twenty

1322
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: twenty game. But I had a couple other ones I'll

1323
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: just throw in here. I have Marcus Morris ejected again.

1324
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: But Marcus is Marcus, So he's gonna get ejected for

1325
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: like just you know, swearing at all the officials and

1326
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: going crazy and just getting tossed again. So that that's

1327
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: a simple one and then and there's something like I'm

1328
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: high on Julius Randall actually having probably statistically a pretty

1329
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: solid season being really the go to guy for the Knicks.

1330
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, they're hoping R. J. Barrett's gonna bossom into

1331
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: that as well. But Julius Randall put up some numbers

1332
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: with the Pelicane. He could do that in the East.

1333
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: He could maybe be a dark horse guy when we

1334
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: were talking about, you know, first time All Stars, the

1335
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: Knicks would have to win some games I think to

1336
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: get some love. But uh, he's gonna have some some numbers,

1337
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: I think. So maybe he gets he has a big game,

1338
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: maybe hits a game winner, a little tip back or something,

1339
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: and I think there's a legal like this. Maybe there's

1340
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: like an Elton John type of shout out in set

1341
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: of Candle in the Wind, It'll be Randall in the Wind. Yeah,

1342
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: Randall in the Wind, which is now that I think about,

1343
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: that's a very depressing song about the passing of the

1344
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: precess Diana. So yeah, maybe that's a little too dark,

1345
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: but Randal in the Wind just works in terms of

1346
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: the pun and game.

1347
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 4: So he's got a great name for puns. Yeah, definitely,

1348
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 4: he's ending up on some covers.

1349
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah too hot to Randal. Yeah, you're right, You're exactly right,

1350
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: and he should be there, maybe one of their better players.

1351
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: He definitely should be one of their better players, for sure.

1352
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: But I even even even old Skeetzy here can't talk

1353
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: talk himself into back in the Knicks. This time.

1354
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 4: I got burned.

1355
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: I've been burned too many times where I sort of

1356
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: get excited about the Knicks and what they got going

1357
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: there just for them to do absolutely nothing in lay

1358
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: an Egg. So the best thing to do with the

1359
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: Knicks is just pretend they don't exist, and then that's

1360
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: maybe then when they'll shock us and you'll be like, oh,

1361
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: the Knicks are They're not that bad. There's just always

1362
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: too much hype and hope with with the Knicks, with

1363
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: any with any of their young players. They have one

1364
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: good game and then everybody's like, oh, he's a star

1365
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: in the making, like even Mitchell Robinson and who I

1366
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: do like to some extent, I feel like we maybe

1367
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: went a little overboard after a solid rookie season. Is

1368
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: that fair to say?

1369
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: If you have after the Knicks are eliminated from the playoffs,

1370
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: if you have a good in March and April. New

1371
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: York fans think you are the next Patrick Hugh. Yeah right,

1372
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: This has happened with Chris Copeland, Emmanuel Moodier, Ron Baker,

1373
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: Earl Baron had a good month at one point, Ray

1374
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: Burke had a good month at one point. The Knicks

1375
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 4: hype machine is incredible. That being said, I do think

1376
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: Mitchell Robinson looks like a real NBA player. You can

1377
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: contribute at some point.

1378
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: Goronzo Treery, Oh yeah, exactly right right.

1379
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes on and on and on. So there

1380
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: you go. Knicks fans, come at us, tweet at us.

1381
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: We don't care. Let's hear your puntastic New York Post

1382
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: headlines for this upcoming season. Get creative. Hey, if you're

1383
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: one of the photoshop boys, do some work. Whip up

1384
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: that busy, Yeah, whip up that cover. Put your photoshop

1385
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: skills to the test, and let's see it with your headline.

1386
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 2: All right, that's it for part four. We got one

1387
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: more of these bad boys still to go. We'll drop

1388
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: that on Friday. A few more questions to wrap up

1389
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: as we get ready for the upcoming NBA season. We'll

1390
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: have a show on Monday too, don't you worry. Tuesday,

1391
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: the game start and wait, look we're going daily. We're

1392
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: already basically daily with the season previews, but once that

1393
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: season starts, we're daily, baby, So get your questions in

1394
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: as well. As I said, we'll have a mail mail

1395
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: bag episode. Email us no dunks at the Athletic dot com,

1396
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 2: follow us on all social media platforms at no Dunks, Inc.

1397
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, if you subscribe to the show on

1398
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: Apple podcasts, nab us that five star rating? Hey, who

1399
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: left the four star? Was that your mom? Trey?

1400
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 4: I told you not to let the information now, it

1401
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 4: was an accidental thumb press. Rosie listened this deep in

1402
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: the episode.

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01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: You bet you she will.

1404
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay, Mom, We love you. It makes it

1405
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: look more realistic. Yeah, that's true. It was almost weird

1406
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 4: we only had five star ratings. You're right, she's doing

1407
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 4: us a favor by doing that. But yeah, but I'm

1408
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: gonna email Tim Cook and have him removed.

1409
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: Okay, great, okay, great, So subscribe to the show guys,

1410
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you on Friday. You heard it

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Speaker 2: here first.

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Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys. Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, folks, and remember I'm starting to

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: remember doing daily podcasting can make your ears very hot.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day people,