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Speaker 2: What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? I'm John,

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Speaker 2: this is three and our podcast. I just watched Drew

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Speaker 2: Aller throw an interception with under a minute to go

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Speaker 2: and then Notre Dame getting the field goal range. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they basically were winning through the pick and win the game,

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Speaker 2: and they punched their ticket to the National championship. So

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Speaker 2: if you're a Notre Dame fan, congratulations. We will do

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Speaker 2: a reaction right off the top. We'll discuss Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman, Riley Leonard. But to me, Drew Aller, who

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Speaker 2: I had been anointing and saying, God, keep an eye

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Speaker 2: on this guy for the draft. We can take that, take,

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Speaker 2: roll it up and throw it in the trash. Because

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Speaker 2: I apologize for saying that tonight was I can't granted

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Speaker 2: I had you know, I took Penn State, but geez

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Speaker 2: Luise abdul Carter though, looks like I would bet on

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Speaker 2: that guy. Same with Tyler Warren. So tough night for

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Speaker 2: James Franklin and Penn State who were up late. But

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Speaker 2: we'll dive into the game. Stucky will join us too.

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Speaker 2: We'll go over gambling, we'll go game by game. Coming

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Speaker 2: up for this playoff weekend Saturday, Sunday, Monday got a

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Speaker 2: lot of action. I guess at Monday now is moved

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Speaker 2: to Arizona. It doesn't change to the matchup or the spread.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, make sure you subscribe to the

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Speaker 2: content is up there as well. So let's dive into

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Speaker 2: some football. Let's start with Marcus Freeman because when he

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Speaker 2: first got the job and he lost to Marshall, I

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Speaker 2: remember too he was in a game like an absolute

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Speaker 2: dogfight against Cal. I'm like, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: gonna make it through his first year, and kind of

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Speaker 2: righted the ship. And obviously since then the recruiting has

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Speaker 2: gone up another level. Last year they were pretty solid,

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Speaker 2: and this year they lose to NIU and it felt

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Speaker 2: like is it happening again? And they clearly got Riley

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Speaker 2: Leonard rolling their defense is fantastic. And now a couple

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Speaker 2: months later, they've beaten Georgia and Penn State and there

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Speaker 2: waiting for the winner of Ohio State in Texas. So

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Speaker 2: just an incredible accomplishment. I mean, tonight it is about

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Speaker 2: two guys, one guy's thirty eight and if you watched

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Speaker 2: any of the viral clips of the two of them

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Speaker 2: at press conferences, James Franklin's kind of like a podcaster,

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Speaker 2: never shuts up, always has takes, which I appreciate. And

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Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman was serious as a heart attack, trying not

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Speaker 2: to take the bait, but trying not to be an asshole.

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Speaker 2: But he had much more of a vibe like I'm

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Speaker 2: here to kick ass and take James, and James his

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Speaker 2: personality is what it is. He's a recruiter, outgoing personality,

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Speaker 2: but can't win this game. And we talked about it

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Speaker 2: coming in like once Marcus Freeman beats Georgia, it's like

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Speaker 2: that is an enormous win. I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: he's playing with house money, but one of their best

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Speaker 2: defensive lineman's injured. Their start running back is playing with

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Speaker 2: a huge brace on his knee, and hell, before the

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Speaker 2: Indiana game he was battling another injury. And they lose

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Speaker 2: multiple offensive linemen in this game. Their quarterback at one

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Speaker 2: point in time looks like it gets a concussion. Then

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Speaker 2: they bring in the backup, who, as someone told me,

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Speaker 2: they're like you realize he was the Tony the Tiger

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Speaker 2: MVP last year of their bowl game, Like, what do

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Speaker 2: second half. Leonard throws an awful interception to the defensive end.

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Speaker 2: But they just made and their defense, their past defense

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Speaker 2: that's a fantastic win by Notre Dame. They could lose

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Speaker 2: by however many in the National Championship. Who gives a shit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Marcus Freeman, that martial loss, that NIU loss,

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Speaker 2: Drew Aller who to me, besides Marcus Freeman winning this game.

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Speaker 2: To me, the headline for Penn State is James Franklin

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Speaker 2: loses another big game and their quarterback crumbles. This was

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Speaker 2: a guy that I was kind of buying into, and

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Speaker 2: of a questionable pass interference call. But he was atrocious.

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Speaker 2: people in the NFL have been talking about it too.

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Speaker 2: Could he enter the draft, could he you know, could

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Speaker 2: he make a lake push if they were to win

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Speaker 2: tonight he looked like a sixth rounder. He looked awful.

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Speaker 2: And it's one thing like you're getting pressured, you're getting

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Speaker 2: that were just really, really bad. Talk about a guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say he hurt his stock because

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Speaker 2: But like that conversation ended at night, go back to school.

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Speaker 2: I do think you know he's not a great athlete.

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Speaker 2: Right at one point in time when all the hype

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Speaker 2: To like walk back on campus. There is no telling

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Speaker 2: it's twenty four to twenty four that you're no lock

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Speaker 2: got no problem being aggressive. Right. You have Tyler Warren's

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Speaker 2: the ratio of those two guys, it should be like

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Speaker 2: Singleton's a starting NFL running back. And you know, Singleton

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Speaker 2: that interception is just something that it just cannot happen,

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Speaker 2: not when you've been a multi year starter, not in

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Speaker 2: Like I don't necessarily put that individual throw on James Franklin,

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Speaker 2: So I just hear everyone talking about it. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: watching the tonight, like, what are you doing? Why do

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Speaker 2: you keep insists on passing it? When Notre Dame's defensive

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Speaker 2: really bad. And you're running the ball with ease right

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Speaker 2: passing it, passing it, passing it, passing it. Honestly, the

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Speaker 2: first half felt like it should have been twenty to three.

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Speaker 2: Instead it's ten to three. They come out in the

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Speaker 2: second half because notre name gets the ball, goes right

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he said to the boys at halftime,

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Speaker 2: but whatever he said worked. I don't even know if

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Speaker 2: and that's when everything really flipped. And I just listen

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Speaker 2: James Franklin. There's no disputing the talent. The guy can accumulate,

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Speaker 2: he can isolate elite players, he can recruit elite players,

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Speaker 2: and he can get them to come to Penn State

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Speaker 2: Okay, coming down the home stretch here, wild Card weekend,

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Speaker 2: by DraftKings. This season was kind of taiale of the

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Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers went six and eleven and they're

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Speaker 2: not even in the top ten. I mean, the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Lions, Chiefs. I mean I looked before

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Speaker 2: we dive into game by game, the odds to win

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Speaker 2: but now that they're gonna have to go on the road,

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Speaker 2: I think there are five teams that can win it,

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Speaker 2: clearly the Lions and the Chiefs. You know, basically the

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Speaker 2: Lions are basically three to one, Chiefs three and a

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Speaker 2: half to one, Ravens plus five to fifty, Bills six

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Speaker 2: to one, Philly seven to one. Like to me, those

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Speaker 2: What say you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. The Packers would be interesting to me

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Speaker 1: if they faded down the stretch and then no Christian

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Speaker 1: Watson knows Jay or Alexander, it kind of limits what

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Speaker 1: they can do. From an upside perspective, I think that

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Speaker 1: Detroit defense is still really vulnerable, especially if they play

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Speaker 1: like a mobile quarterback who doesn't see ghosts like Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold did. I think they're eventually going to get picked

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Speaker 1: off their defense, but with their offense home field advantage,

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Speaker 1: they're certainly in the mix. Philly is as well. Their

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Speaker 1: defense is real. They obviously have all the pieces on offense.

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Speaker 1: Really just comes down to Hurts not holding the ball

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Speaker 1: too long. But I think they can go into Detroit

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Speaker 1: and win, and yeah, in the AFC if the Chalk

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Speaker 1: holds this weekend, would I assume will be next Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: the final game in divisional round Bill's Ravens will be

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Speaker 1: an awesome game, and the winner of that versus the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs presumably will be an awesome AFC championship game. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he got the five right.

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Speaker 2: The Bucks, any you know, could get a little frisky.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you play Washington, but then the second game would

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Speaker 2: more than likely be Philly. Is that a good matchup?

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Speaker 2: I know, I saw Winfields practicing this week, clearly offensively

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Speaker 2: when they get going, and I saw Baker said, you know,

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Speaker 2: the biggest difference this year than the last year. Obviously

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Speaker 2: last year the passing game was unreal. They get they're

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Speaker 2: pretty multi dimensional. I mean Bucky Irving talk about this

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Speaker 2: is the reason why you don't draft running backs in

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Speaker 2: the first round. I mean you get high end players

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Speaker 2: in the third and fourth round. So I to me,

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Speaker 2: they're a team. I mean, they won a playoff game

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Speaker 2: last year. I know they were playing the wounded Eagles,

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Speaker 2: but then they went toe to toe with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Like they have a lot of guys on their team

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Speaker 2: that shit, have played in a lot of big games

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Speaker 2: for the last four or five years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they could be firsh It's hard for me to

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Speaker 1: see them going, you know, beating Washington in Philly, then

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Speaker 1: Detroit on the road, and then beating the AFC team.

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Speaker 2: But they certainly, yeah, not necessarily, not necessarily a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl run, but I could see them throwing a wrench

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Speaker 2: in things. I mean, shit, they almost did last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, they're they're They're not going to

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Speaker 1: be an easy out for anybody. I mean, they went

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Speaker 1: they beat Philly. I know Philly didn't have you know,

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Speaker 1: Brown or Smith's starting, or a couple offensive linemen they

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Speaker 1: were earlier this season. They went to Detroit and won also,

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Speaker 1: which isn't easy to do. Although they were out gained

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Speaker 1: by two hundred yards. Detroit just couldn't score in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. But they won't be an easy out. I

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Speaker 1: do like them this weekend against Washington. Daniels has had

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Speaker 1: an amazing year, but still a rookie quarterback making his

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Speaker 1: first playoff start on the road. Historically that has not

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Speaker 1: gone well. And if you look quarterbacks making their first

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Speaker 1: playoffs start against quarterbacks who have playoff experience historically, thirty

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Speaker 1: three percent straight up, thirty three percent against the spread.

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Speaker 1: Numbers are not great. That also applies to Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: against Stafford. But I think this Washington team is pretty overrated.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look what they did down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they won twelve games. Daniel was great,

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Speaker 1: but they won. The only playoff team they beat all

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Speaker 1: year was Philly, who was about to blow them out

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Speaker 1: of the water before Hurts got hurt and then Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett came in and then they came back. That's the

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Speaker 1: only playoff team they won all year. They have the

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Speaker 1: lowest strength of schedule in the entire conference, and look

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Speaker 1: at their past four victories. They beat the Saints with

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Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler by one. They beat the Eagles because hurt

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Speaker 1: Scott hurt, so they beat Kenny Pickett on the last

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Speaker 1: play of the game. They beat the Falcons with a

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Speaker 1: last play of the game. And then they beat for

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Speaker 1: the seed. They beat Trey Lance, and they needed Mariota

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Speaker 1: to come in to really do that. They were down

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Speaker 1: big in that game. This is a team they won

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Speaker 1: six games games on the final play of the game

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Speaker 1: on the final play this season, and you go back

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Speaker 1: to the Hail Mary against the Bears. So they were

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Speaker 1: really fortunate all years. It's gonna be a tough ask,

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Speaker 1: especially that Tampa secondary is healthier. Their run Dee's been good.

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles will probably dial up some blitzes to get

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Speaker 1: the Daniels create some sacks, some negative plays. I'm not

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Speaker 1: a believer in that Washington defense. They're definitely ahead of

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Speaker 1: schedule with Daniels, for sure, Washington fans have to be excited.

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Speaker 1: But I like Tampa, which I'm surprised that game is

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Speaker 1: actually not on Monday night, but usually you get the

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Speaker 1: Texans in the Saturday after early afternoon slate. The Bucks

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Speaker 1: is your Monday night special. But I like the Bucks

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Speaker 1: and Baker to get it done. Lang three at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree with you there. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: I think that's got a chance to be maybe one

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Speaker 2: of the worst games of the weekend. And I'm with

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Speaker 2: you on Washington. To me, they had more of a

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Speaker 2: feel like two years ago that Giants team. It's like,

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Speaker 2: how the hell did they do it? But if I

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Speaker 2: remember correctly, I think that Giants team went nine to eight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this team won twelve games, So it's like,

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Speaker 2: I think they could be much better next year, another draft,

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Speaker 2: free agent money and win like ten.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you get like they need they have

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Speaker 1: some holes on d they need to plug, and then

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Speaker 1: Daniels could really use like another bona fide weapon which

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Speaker 1: would go a long way in boosting that offense. Maybe

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Speaker 1: bring in like another veteran offensive lineman. But you look,

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Speaker 1: it's like ERT's has done a ton it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Earth's is He's ancient at this point. It's basically just

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Speaker 1: McLaurin is like the receiver that you're worried about on

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Speaker 1: that team. So it's amazing what they've done with the

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Speaker 1: amount of talent that they actually have on the roster.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, another draft, a couple free agent additions to

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Speaker 1: plug some holes, and Washington's definitely going to be an

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Speaker 1: exciting team because you're this ahead of schedule and what

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Speaker 1: do you have? Quarterback on a rookie contract always a

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Speaker 1: major advantage when that rookie is good.

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Speaker 2: Like I bet if they could if Dan and Peters

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Speaker 2: who worked there at the time when the trade was made,

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Speaker 2: But I think they would like to have Sweat, Like

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Speaker 2: I think they would have just liked to pay him

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Speaker 2: had him on this team, because that's what they they're missing.

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Speaker 2: It's like a really good Now I'd have to like

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Speaker 2: what they have, he's really good. Okay, let's last year

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Speaker 2: It was like the Browns, the Browns, the Browns, and

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Speaker 2: saw a stat that since twenty eleven Jim Harboughs first

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Speaker 2: he has more player victories than Mike Tomlin. And obviously

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Speaker 2: guy's success in the playoffs in the NFL. He hit

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Speaker 2: the ground running with the forty nine Ers, and honestly,

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Speaker 2: that first year people probably don't remember this, but they

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Speaker 2: played Eli Manning, who went on to win a second

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Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers probably should have won that game.

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Speaker 2: And Alex Smith I think was like one to fifteen

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Speaker 2: or something on third downs and it was I don't

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Speaker 2: think it went to overtime, but it came down to

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Speaker 2: the final seconds and it was just he is a

641
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: great playoff coach. I mean, he's comfortable playing in these

642
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: games because he plays him normally during the regular season,

643
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: like just tight contested defensive battles. But I feel like everyone,

644
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, you talk about like road playoff games. You know,

645
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: now Flacco is not as good as Herbert, but going

646
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: on the road is just Now. The Texans aren't exactly

647
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: like Buffalo, you know, or Philly or something. But still,

648
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's difficult. This team has playoff experience,

649
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: and I think everyone goes, well, the Texans suck, and yeah,

650
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: relative to the hype, they're not as good. But I

651
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: kind of like the Texans and the points in this play.

652
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think they win, but if it's a

653
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: low scoring game, couldn't you see the Chargers win them,

654
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: like a game winning field goal like nineteen to seventeen

655
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: or something.

656
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: Got to take the points here. Completely agree with you.

657
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean I project this like a coin flip. This

658
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: is this line is crazy, Like this is assuming we're

659
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: assuming now that the Charters are like over four points

660
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: better than the Texans. The Texans seene that was just

661
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: plus three and a half in Kansas City a couple

662
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I know that they had a couple

663
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: of defensive injuries. Tank Dell got hurt. But this line

664
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: is crazy. Give me the three points all day, especially

665
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: with a total, like you said, a total of a

666
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: low total. It's like points are going to be at

667
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: a premium. Historically, this is a favorite year in the

668
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: NFL in the regular season. We'll see how it plays

669
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: out in playoffs. Historically, Wildcar Weekend is a dog weekend.

670
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Just you go back, just to twenty seventeen dogs fifty

671
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: two and thirty four against the spread overall, twenty four

672
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: and twelve, sixty seven percent in the wildcard round ten

673
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: three and two home underdogs past ten years.

674
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that was Look look at last

675
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: year the Bucks, the Packers, I mean, were the Texans

676
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: an underdog to the Browns in that Wildcar Weekend? Or

677
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: were they favored? Maybe it was pickhim or something, but it.

678
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: Was, Yeah, it was.

679
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: It was felt like there's a lot of Browns love.

680
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: There was a ton of Browns love. And here's the thing, like, yeah, yes,

681
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the Texans. The Texans early down offense

682
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: was troublesome all year. They had a their point differential

683
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: was zero. They were thirty first and success right on

684
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: early downs. They're more likely to turn it over than Herbert,

685
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: who never throws picks. The Charters have two really good

686
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: offensive tackles to kind of neutralize that Texans pass rush.

687
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: They're blitz Chargers, They're blitz under Mintter has been really

688
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: good when they use it. Texans struggle with their offensive

689
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: line to pick up Blitz's. But again, this number is

690
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: way too high, and this Texans d is still elite.

691
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: It's still a really, really really good defense. And I

692
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: just think this line is outrageous. And like you said,

693
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Charters they're they're good, but

694
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: they're not like one of the elite teams. And here's

695
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: where they beat on the road this year Carolina Denver, who,

696
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: by the way, Denver is the only playoff team the

697
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Chargers beat the entire season. Carolina, Denver, Cleveland, New England, Vegas,

698
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: and Atlanta, only one playoff team. And Atlanta, again they

699
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: were dominated and Kirk Kirk Cousins was just throwing.

700
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: The ball to them through four picks.

701
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, through four picks, and they still almost won the game.

702
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: One was a pick six, So that that's it. That's

703
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: what they've done on the road. The Chargers are the

704
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: lowest strength of victory in the entire playoffs. So, and

705
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: like you said, the Texans. Now, it's really funny to

706
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: see this in the NFL. Well did everyone is talking

707
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: about the Texans like they're the Broncos or the Steelers right,

708
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: like they're ten point nine eight, ten point underd dollars,

709
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: they have no chance and this people already talk about

710
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: charges of the Chiefs. I look at all my mentions,

711
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: the charge is gonna be the Chiefs this weekend. Well

712
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: as if they don't have to go on the road

713
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: and be a team with a really good defense and

714
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: still a really good quarterback in Stroud. I think Mixon

715
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: will be able to find some holes here running the ball.

716
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: You have Nico Collins. Stroud's gonna see a lot of

717
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: zone here. That's generally speaking, what he excels against. Like,

718
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: so the Texans could come in here loose house money,

719
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: play the disrespect card all week everyone's writing us off.

720
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you got to take the three here.

721
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: There should be a lower scoring game two points at

722
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: a premium.

723
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: And the Texans O line issues are up the center

724
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: of the middle of the field, where the Chargers dominant

725
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: pass rush is the Edges. I mean, Khalil Mack has

726
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: kind of resurrected his career and her really looks fantastic.

727
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: But he's not Chris Joe. I mean, he's lining up

728
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: over tackles. So that is if you told me that

729
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: they had, you know, some elite If Aaron Donald was

730
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: on the Chargers, I'd be like, yeah, I Stroud might

731
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: get sacked ten times, but that's not necessarily the case here.

732
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: So I'm glad we think alike. This next game almost

733
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: feels too easy because the Steelers look like shit, like

734
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: there's no dispute, Like they have looked terrible defensive holes everywhere,

735
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: even in the game that was you know, in theory

736
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: was closed last week. They were down nineteen to seven

737
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: going into the fourth quarter. George Pickens, you take enough

738
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: of these flyers on these red flag wide receivers. Yeah,

739
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: you hit some Hall of famers like Antonio Brown and

740
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: then you get some of this. He thinks he's Antonio Brown.

741
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: He sure doesn't play like it. And let's face it,

742
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: it got cold and Russell Wilson has not looked the same.

743
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: But part of the reason this team dominated is like

744
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: it felt like the first couple of months, their defense

745
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: was awesome, and now you got guys wide open. They

746
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: have good defensive linemen, but I don't us anyone else

747
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: and that the mojo and even TJ. Watt. They interviewed

748
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: him right before that Bengal game. He's like they were

749
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: already in and he said it was right. He's like,

750
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: we need to get some momentum, right, we need to

751
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: get going. And then immediately they're down and they lose.

752
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: You know, and the Ravens last week, we're kind of

753
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: in a tough spot because they needed to win, so

754
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 2: they're playing their guys and then say Flowers gets hurt

755
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: on that sucks, because shit, he's become good. But man,

756
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I get this rivalry and all

757
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: this stuff, but you get one team. These teams are

758
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: trending in completely different areas, and it does feel like

759
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: there's an implosion factor for the Steelers this back to

760
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: back years. Ducky, I mean, you know this, but they

761
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: have been enormous underdogs in the first round, not against

762
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: the back to back champion, the Chiefs, the next tier

763
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: of the two teams, the Bills in the Ravens. So

764
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: if I'm a Steeler fan, I'm like, well, clearly the

765
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs are in a different universe than us, But that

766
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: next two teams that are clearly two of the best

767
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: teams in the league that just can't beat the Chiefs,

768
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: We're not even in their world anymore. So it's like,

769
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing? I like the Raves,

770
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: if you told me this, the final score is like,

771
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty seven to ten or something like.

772
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: That's that's what it kind of feels like. It may

773
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: be close, you know, for like twenty minutes a game time,

774
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 2: and then you just watch it You're like, I don't

775
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: know if that was actually close.

776
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steelers fans have to be like if they get

777
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: blown out here, Like I think Tomlin's a really good coach,

778
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: like one of the best row I like motivators in

779
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: the game, but like, is it time in the Steelers organization.

780
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: They're really loyal to him, and.

781
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: I've been saying that the trade them to the Bears

782
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: recent franchise.

783
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: This is like sometimes it's just time for a new voice.

784
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: But if they don't, they don't win this game, they'll

785
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: be Owen six straight up and Owen six against the

786
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Spreading their last six playoff games, and it's been a

787
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: very long time since they won a playoff game. And

788
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: their seasons all go it's like a script. They all

789
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: go the same way. It's like hots like of late

790
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: hots start fade down the stretch, lose the playoff game.

791
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: Like that gets tiring. Ah, you know, everything inside me

792
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: says that this game will just weirdly be close, just

793
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: because every Raven Steelers game, I should say everyone, but

794
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: like eighty ninety percent of them and the Harball Tomlin

795
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Air are just always close and low scoring. I kind

796
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: of like the under here as well. Everything on the field,

797
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: as you alluded to, says that Ravens win easily. The

798
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: markets kind of hinting at that too, but like the

799
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: Ravens were just seven and a half point favorites at

800
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: home a couple of weeks ago. They did end up covering,

801
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: but the Steelers were without two starting defensive backs. Joey

802
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: Porter gets hurt early in that game. Ogan Joby was out,

803
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Pickens was out. Like they were decimated by injuries in

804
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: that game. They're gonna be healthier here at least end

805
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: There's no Day Flowers, which is massive. I mean, now

806
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: you're starting wide receivers or Bateman, Aguilar and Tylan Wallace.

807
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna miss You're really gonna miss Flowers and just.

808
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: I will say this, Bateman's look good this year.

809
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: He has, but he also is benefiting from the waves

810
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: of Flowers. So you know, the Ravens would probably go

811
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: with more two tight end sets. Here. You still have Henry,

812
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: you still have Lamar Jackson. But the biggest thing with

813
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens is that their offense has been historically dominant

814
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: all year, and by the way, they have the hardest schedule.

815
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: They faced the hardest schedule opposing defenses in the entire league,

816
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: and they have a top ten regular season offensive all

817
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: time by some metrics this year. The thing that has

818
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: really made the Ravens dangerous and will make them dangerous

819
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs is that they fix their defense. First

820
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: ten weeks of the year twenty fifth and scoring twenty seventh,

821
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: then yards allowed. Since week eleven, they are number one

822
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: in the league in almost every defensive category. What happened

823
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: in week eleven. They made a switch at safety. They

824
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: took Kyle Hamilton, put them back at safety. They put

825
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: our Darius Washington in at safety. They got rid of

826
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, get rid of their veterans who were just washed,

827
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: inserted Humphrey into the slot more basically, full time changed

828
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: how they communicate the defense. Call simplified their scheme a

829
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: bit as well. Call goes into roquwand roquwand communicates to

830
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. Hamilton make sure everyone is set and needs

831
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: to be where they need to be, and everything has

832
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: been like a smooth operation. Now they've been number one

833
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: in the league. I got since that since week eleven

834
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: first and scoring first, in the yards first, and passing

835
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: defense first, and yards per play allowed first and epa

836
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: per play. Now they have faced them underwhelming offenses. They

837
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: place the Giants, the Browns and even you know, the

838
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Steelers twice the Texans, and neither those teams are firing

839
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. But they also face the Chargers and

840
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and five of those seven teams are in

841
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs. At least it has been boosted a little

842
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: bit by who they've played, but there's no doubt that

843
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: the defense is you know, has gone from a bottom

844
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: feed er to one of the best in the league.

845
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: They've always been good against the all year, but now

846
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: they've fixed the issues in the secondary simplified the scheme,

847
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: and that defense now is playing at a championship level.

848
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: So that's what makes them dangerous. And we'll say this

849
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: line is hitting ten nine and a half. Ten double

850
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: digit favorites in the NFL are usually good bets in

851
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs thirteen and five against the spread since twenty ten,

852
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: seventeen and one straight up. There's usually a reason why

853
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: an NFL playoff team would be a double digit favorite

854
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: against another. I just I can't lay. I can't lay ten.

855
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't blame anyone taking the Ravens. Everything you've

856
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: seen on the field over the past month, the Ravens

857
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: defensive improvement, and just do you what Picking shows up too?

858
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: Does he like just just decide he doesn't get a

859
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: couple of balls early and then he just is done

860
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: for the day, Because that's basically there. They're only avenue

861
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: for offense. Tom is gonna they're gonna be fired up

862
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: for this game. They're gonna try to ugly it up.

863
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: But I kind of like the under. I really do

864
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: believe in the Ravens defensive improvement. I do think that

865
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: they'll miss Flowers. Steelers defense will be healthier this time around.

866
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: They didn't have Porter against the Ravens in that second meeting.

867
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: They lost him. They were already on their other corner

868
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: down in safety. They can't they couldn't just run what

869
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: they want to run. So I think this will be

870
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: a lower scoring game. I don't have a real true

871
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: feel on the side, but I wouldn't blame anyone for

872
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: taking the Ravens.

873
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: Kay. You mentioned rookie quarterbacks on the road, you know,

874
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: making their first obviously playoffs start. It's challenging no matter what.

875
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: Let alone going to Buffalo, which has got to be

876
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: on the short list not just of home field advantages,

877
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: but I mean a pretty special place come January. It's

878
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: tough for both. I mean, listen, he's battled this season.

879
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: He's probably just in terms of improvement from start to

880
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: finish of the year. It's pretty remarkable what Sean Payton

881
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: has done. Now, the Bills, you know, they're not for

882
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 2: Sean Payton team. They're really more of a defensive team.

883
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: I know they just scored one hundred points against the

884
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs practice squad, but I mean they hang their hat

885
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: on defense and pass rush. But this does feel like

886
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: a spot do we look up and like bow Knicks

887
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: from several picks. You know, it's one of those things

888
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: that just unravels and go on to have a fantastic

889
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 2: career when we look back, like remember Bo Nicks's first

890
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: playoff start against you know, who knows? Maybe the Super

891
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: Bowl champion Buffalo Bills on the road feels like a big,

892
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: big challenge, And I think we'd all agree, and I'd

893
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: say the same for the Chargers. Incredible season for Harbaugh

894
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: Sean Baiden, right, I mean both their win totals were

895
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: like five and six or something. I mean the Chargers

896
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: won five games last year. Everyone, and I know I'm

897
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: guilty of this thought the Broncos were gonna suck. Now

898
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: part of it, yeah, but part of it is last year. Now,

899
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: granted they got better as the season went on. You

900
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: score seventy points in a game against you, like, I

901
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: don't view your defense as great, and then they turns

902
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: out their defense was just elite and Benito turned into

903
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: like Lawrence Taylor. But I feel I would feel stronger

904
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 2: if you told me I had to make the biggest

905
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: bet of my life, who would cover the Bills or

906
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I hear what you said, and just be like, well,

907
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: Bill's Ray or I mean raven Steelers could see divisional matchup.

908
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it is tight, this is a game. I would

909
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: be stunned if the Broncos cover the spread. I like

910
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: the Bills, and this is a big number, it's playoffs.

911
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: But rookie quarterback, I don't know. I like the Bills

912
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: here might say to half, Yeah, it's.

913
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: In a way, the Broncos have the path to cover

914
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: as a dog of over a touchdown in that they

915
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: have a really good defense, they have a really good

916
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: offensive line, and they have a really good coach who

917
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: has thrived as an underdog throughout his career. Those three

918
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: things good coach, good offensive line, elite defense, we'll get

919
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: you a long way as far as just like covering

920
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: spreads of over in the NFL. And and just if

921
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: you look at these if you just look at the

922
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: metrics of these two teams, you have elite Bills offense

923
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: versus elite Broncos defense. I will call it average Broncos

924
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: offense versus if you adjust for opponent, it's an average

925
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: ish Bill's defense. But the biggest difference by far, which

926
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: probably will end up deciding this game. It's the quarterbacks,

927
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: Bonnicks said, an amazing season. He's improved on a weekly basis.

928
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he threw for twenty nine touchdowns just

929
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: looking at us stats.

930
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty wild. And but the Broncos have you know,

931
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean, how many playoff teams if the Broncos beat

932
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: if you don't count the Chiefs, who's said other stars one?

933
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks?

934
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: That was it, And we don't count the Chiefs.

935
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not fan in that game, but they but

936
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: they arguably they should have beat the Chiefs.

937
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: And to be fair, they match up well against Chiefs,

938
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: right because they can rush the pass or the Chiefs

939
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: offense one it's a little iffy.

940
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's just the biggest difference. Is you a

941
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback making his first start, he's more likely to

942
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: just make a couple critical mistakes. Rookie quarterbacks against McDermott's

943
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: defenses zone heavy, want to take away the exposive play,

944
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: make you drive down the field and then hope that

945
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: you eventually make a mistake or they get a negative play.

946
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: Rookie quarterbacks against mcdermot's sven touchdown seventeen interceptions historically, So

947
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: that's probably what happens in this game is You're not

948
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: gonna be able to completely shut down Allen. He's gonna

949
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: make plays. He's gonna make plays of his legs and

950
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: his arm, and Nicks probably makes a couple catastrophic mistakes,

951
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: as rookies tend to do in their first playoff start,

952
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: especially on the road. I did play some under here

953
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: as well. Under forty seven. Historically, totals of forty seven

954
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: or more on Wildcard weekend outdoors have been a very,

955
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: very good bet. I do think the Broncos defense can

956
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 1: hold its own here, and I think, look, the Bills

957
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: aren't going to give up any exposive plays. I think

958
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: Peyton knows that he's got to just keep this close

959
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: as long as he can. And I do think that

960
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: they'll have some success. Like just Peyton's scheming ups things.

961
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna be just very methodical and that's gonna keep

962
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: the clock moving. But he's gonna play conservative play field position,

963
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: not not gonna be taken too many risks early. Now,

964
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: eventually they get down you're gonna have to, which is

965
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: when it could get out of hand. But I think

966
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: this total is a bit too high because I don't

967
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: see the Broncos offense going off. I think their defense

968
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: will hold its own, and I think Peyton will call

969
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: this game close to the best, and Nixon that offense

970
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: can do enough to just keep Drives alive, like you

971
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: don't want them failing miserably, and then they're just punting

972
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: three and out punt punt, and then they get way

973
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: behind and they have to come out and chuck, which

974
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: is then the game could get out of hand. So

975
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: I like some under there as well, but this game, yeah,

976
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it just comes down to it's Josh Allen

977
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: versus a rookie quarterback on the road in their first

978
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: Plaouf star. It's probably the difference.

979
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: You know, we haven't talked about this yet, but if

980
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: you'd had to do pressure rankings, I would put Sean

981
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: McDermott on the I would put Sean McDermott, Sirianni and Lamar.

982
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you could you could convince me of any

983
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: different order of that group, but I would say, you know,

984
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott in one of these games, if they're down,

985
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: I could just see it getting a little tight, you know.

986
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: I Mean there's just a lot of pressure on him,

987
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: probably as the MVP. Of the league regardless. You know,

988
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: Lamar has had the best season of his career. But

989
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: like clearly, you know, John Harbaugh and Sean McDermott have

990
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: two of the greatest quarterbacks we've seen, like not only

991
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 2: of their era, but like in my life, just pure

992
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: talents and the different last year the Ravens were in

993
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. Now you lose the Chiefs sometimes

994
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 2: like losing to Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods, tip your hat,

995
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: but like you got the Bills to me, at minimum

996
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: for this season to be a success, have to win

997
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: these next two games. And like, like you said, the

998
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: Broncos have a guy that's i mean getting paid eighteen

999
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: million dollars for reason. He's he was one of the

1000
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: best coaches in the league, and I think this year

1001
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: was a pretty big muscle flex for him. So it's

1002
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: like this is a tough little matchup from a coaching perspective,

1003
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: advanced Joseph in the defense is like this, maybe I'm underestimating,

1004
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: Like I like the Bills because of the road advantage,

1005
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: but from just a pure coaching advantage, like Denver's really

1006
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: well coached, you know, and then that really really matters

1007
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. It's why like the Chargers Dexans game,

1008
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: like I think Demko's really good, right, I don't. It's

1009
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: not this isn't Jim Harbaugh against some guys, like how

1010
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: did he make the playoffs? You know, just because he

1011
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: won some shitty division Like that's a that's a good

1012
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: coaching matchup. And so is this Bill You know to

1013
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: me that the Bills Bronco game is just just a

1014
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: lot in the line with a lot of guys. Now

1015
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: this you know, listen, Joe Brady's been a stud too,

1016
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 2: and it's like that's the Philly thing. Like, so you know, Sirianni,

1017
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: I would say, at minimum, right, you just got to

1018
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: win these next two games. You lose on the road

1019
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game, people, you know, depending on

1020
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: how it looks, would be mad. But it's like, listen,

1021
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: you go back to the NFC Championship game, you lose

1022
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: the Lions, like it's been a successful season, but this game,

1023
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: could this game be a little trickier that everyone thinks,

1024
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: like everyone's off the Packers now, Jordan Love's been banged up.

1025
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: Christian Watson towards ACL he honestly wasn't even that productive

1026
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: this season was banged up defensively. Is it safe to

1027
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: say Jeff Hafley upgrade over Joe Berry? Have they been

1028
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: better this season? And like this Packer team and you know,

1029
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: this gets back to like the Sean Payton thing, like

1030
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: google the Floor's resume and I know he's had Rogers,

1031
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: but even last year with le Jordan Love, like he's

1032
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: won playoff games. This is not like fresh bright lights,

1033
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: like I'm overwhelmed here, Like they went into Dallas last

1034
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: year a twelve win team and beat the shit out

1035
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: of them. So it's like this is not a team

1036
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 2: and a group of guys. It's all their core guys.

1037
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: And Josh Jacobs is like you know, from Alabama and

1038
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: he played on that team a couple of years ago

1039
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: with Derek Carr that made the playoffs at the end,

1040
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: like they've been in big games. I just I like Philly.

1041
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously their roster I think you could argue

1042
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: is given his health is if Jalen's healthy, is the

1043
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: best in the NFL top to bottom. But this is

1044
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 2: this is not like an easy first round matchup for

1045
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: being a two seven.

1046
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah you you mentioned it with the with coaches, Uh,

1047
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: can't trust out enough how important coaches and coordinators are

1048
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It like I can talk, I can

1049
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: sit here and talk about, Okay, this is what this

1050
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: team does, this is there, these are these Tennessees. This

1051
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: is how much this team runs zone man blah blah.

1052
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: But this this is the time that you switch that

1053
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: up right and you have curve balls and you come

1054
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: out with it the high leverage games and that's that's

1055
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: where you can see these types of things where the

1056
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: coaches can make all the difference. And then those high

1057
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: leverage decisions on fourth downs and your your script in

1058
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: the beginning of games. All those things magnifies of coaching

1059
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: is just absolutely massive. And the floor I think is

1060
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: one of the best, been very very one of the best.

1061
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: Is an underdog too against the spread, for what it's worth,

1062
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: I've played the Packers first half plus three. I think

1063
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: the line is too high. In general, I looked the

1064
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: Eagles defense is legit. Like since week after they're by

1065
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: they put Cooper Degena in the starting lineup. They're both

1066
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: of their rookie cornerbacks have been outstading. That was the

1067
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: biggest stut weakness last year. Their linebacker room was a

1068
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: weakness last year. Zach Baum came over from the Saints.

1069
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: He's been great, and Fangio has been obviously a massive

1070
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: upgrade a defensive coordinator. They have all the pieces on offense.

1071
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: Hurts does still hold onto the ball too long, which

1072
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: leads to like he has the highest rate of dropbacks

1073
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: that lead to sacks, throwaways, or scrambles in the league

1074
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: at twenty five percent. So he does still just hold

1075
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: it a bit too long. That's like kind of what

1076
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: holds their passing offense back a bit. And they faced

1077
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: the easiest schedule of opposing defenses in the league. Packers

1078
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: faced a much harder schedule, played in a much tougher

1079
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: division overall as well. But the reason I like first

1080
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: half on the Packers plus three at show value in

1081
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: the number. But I think number one the four is

1082
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: gonna have a good script. Number two Hurts could come

1083
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: out a little rusty. You know, he hasn't played in

1084
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: a while. There's also data out there that suggests there

1085
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: is in production in your first game back from concussion.

1086
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: Now it's been a while, but maybe that's not its magnified.

1087
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: But we still don't have a ton of data.

1088
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: Do you think they were screwed with people like did

1089
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: he was he could have been cleared weeks ago or

1090
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: they have They've just been like is it just a

1091
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: league mandate? From my understanding is like you clear it

1092
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: when you clear it, Like he wouldn't have played last

1093
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: week anyway, so why would they even care? That to

1094
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: me is a little concerning that, like he was in

1095
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: the protocol. It's one thing, maybe you miss a game

1096
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: and clear at the next Monday or Tuesday, but like

1097
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: this carried on for like weeks.

1098
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, it is more it seems that, I mean,

1099
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna play, but it seems like is there gonna

1100
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: be a residual effect and just general rust right now?

1101
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Playing for twenty days, you know, you see that in

1102
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: Week one with quarterbacks after they don't play in the

1103
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: preseason so early on that could be a problem. And

1104
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: then just in general, the Eagles all year were slow starters.

1105
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: This is the team. They averaged three point six points

1106
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. That's twenty first in the NFL,

1107
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: twelve point four in the first half, it's right around average.

1108
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Packers are six point four in the first quarter, thirteen

1109
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: point six in the first half, that's fourth and sixth.

1110
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: So Packers very good first half offense, Eagles not. You

1111
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: just take the first two drives of first two drives

1112
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: of the all for the offense of the Eagles all year,

1113
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: they're a bottom three offense terms of EPA from the

1114
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: third drive on top three offense. So they just did

1115
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: this script is not working. They there's something they haven't

1116
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: been able to figure out. And these are two very

1117
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: run heavy teams, two of the I think in neutral

1118
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: game states the d two heaviest run offenses in the NFL.

1119
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: What does that mean, especially like in the in the

1120
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: first half, fewer possessions, so there might not be that

1121
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: many such So if the Eagles start slow a couple

1122
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: of possessions, Packers have a good script. Hurts a little rusty.

1123
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: I want that plus three in my pocket. And yeah,

1124
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: I am a bit worried about the green Bay defense.

1125
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: Starts slow sometimes too, though, I feel like Minnesota game,

1126
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: the Detroit game, and then then Jordan gets going in

1127
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: the second half. Yeah, if the Eagles start slow too,

1128
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: maybe it's just ten to seven and a half, you know.

1129
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that that happened last year too as well.

1130
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: But I trust to the floor script in this spot

1131
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: the pa where they miss Watson. If you look with

1132
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: and without Watson on the field, their explosive play rate

1133
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: goes way down in the passing game, and the running

1134
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: games impacted a little bit too, because he just stretches

1135
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: the field. They need read to step up and not

1136
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: have drops and need duves to step up. And but

1137
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna play zone here on defense. A lot of

1138
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: zone hurts his better versus man. I think that they

1139
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: can get him maybe for a turnover too, especially if

1140
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: he's just a little off early on. And yeah, alex no,

1141
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: Alexander worries me if you look at that they're splits

1142
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: just against receivers with him without him, and he's been

1143
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: hurt for a lot of the year, but with him

1144
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: on the field when he's healthy, like, they have a

1145
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: bona fide top corner, which they just do not have

1146
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: right now, which is scary going up against Smith and

1147
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Brown when you already have to worry about Barkley. So

1148
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: I worry about just if the dam breaks, and then

1149
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles are such good front runners. If they get

1150
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: a lead, they can go on like an eight touchdown

1151
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: drive and then just just suck you suck the soul

1152
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: out of the other team with the trush pushes and

1153
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: then it's just like a nine minute touchdown drive and

1154
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 1: then it's lights out. But I don't mind the Packers here.

1155
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: I think this will be a really good game. I

1156
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: don't mind taking the points I took some first half

1157
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: plus three.

1158
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: I think the way someone beats Philly in the next

1159
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: three rounds and the way that they don't, you know,

1160
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: win the NFC is you get up on them and

1161
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: they got a crack, yeah, and then just force them

1162
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: to crack because, like you said, they get a lead.

1163
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: They are the best front running team because they got

1164
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: so much talent and they're so explosive, and then they

1165
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: start vibing.

1166
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: They only have to get nine yards for a first down.

1167
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: You get like fourteen to three, especially in these either

1168
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: this week or next week at the link, and they

1169
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: start booing and fucking aj Brown start sight eyeing people

1170
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: and Sirianni and it just can get weird. It's to me,

1171
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: they have the most weird potential if they get down

1172
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: in a spot, like even the Bills, if they got down.

1173
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: I've watched the Bills get down a lot of games.

1174
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: I think Sean's mellowed a little bit and clearly like

1175
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: he's not as insecure about the whole situation, like he's

1176
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: the boss. I think the people looking like, what's Sirianna

1177
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: even doing on the sideline, so I hear you there,

1178
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: and uh, you know the one thing with Lafloor, I

1179
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: think we saw it last week with Kevin O'Connell and

1180
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: honestly this all year, he treats Sam Darnold like he's

1181
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen just fling flingtt Flingant McVeigh like

1182
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: they're Shanahan guys. I mean, Kevin O'Connell technically isn't, but

1183
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: like they're all under that tree. Lafleur is the closest

1184
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: to Kyle of like, I'll run it forty times if

1185
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: it's working, like I'm a run game guy. That's how

1186
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: we got Rogers rolling again, Like Aaron, get back under center.

1187
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: Let's just control the game and then the passing game

1188
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: comes from there. And I you know, he was with

1189
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: Kyle for so long and that that shit works in

1190
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs, especially as a dog, you know, because you

1191
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: can control the game where you just saw like, hey, Kevin,

1192
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: run the ball, get something easy for Sam. I bet

1193
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: Lafleur and Kyle We're watching that, like, why are you

1194
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: force feeding these passes when you're guys off a little bit.

1195
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: It's like the Houston Rockets when they just kept shooting

1196
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: threes against the Warriors, Like just get a layup, you know, espe.

1197
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: Like inside the ten you weren't even trying to run.

1198
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: I know, but you're wired. I having worked for Andy Reid,

1199
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: who is like, you know, the steroid version of those guys.

1200
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: You're wired. Like you're wired and like your true colors,

1201
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: you're a pass guy or a run game guy, and

1202
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: like that's when all fails, you lean one way or

1203
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: the other, and it's why. So I'm with you. I

1204
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: think this game is going to be very, very interesting.

1205
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm staying away. I just think that I'm with you.

1206
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: Though that number feels a little big. Though it wouldn't

1207
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: shock me if the Eagles win by like fifteen. I

1208
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: think this We talked about the Washington Bucks game. I'm

1209
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: going rams now. Obviously there's this curveball in the world

1210
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: of these fires that are just raging, that are impacting everything,

1211
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: and they might have to play the game in Glendale,

1212
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: and it just uproots a little bit of their just

1213
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: not just home field advantage, but who knows, maybe guys

1214
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: have had to evacuate some homes or people they know,

1215
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: or maybe their girlfriend. Who knows. It's just it's it's

1216
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: not an ideal situation. But I think you saw that.

1217
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: You know, listen, I'm pro Sam Darnold. It can't really

1218
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: be argued what we witnessed, but that first half, like

1219
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: he's airmailing. He airmailed eight passes and he started like

1220
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 2: there were a lot of clips going around, like guys

1221
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: were open. He did the seeing ghosts again. He struggled

1222
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: to pull the trigger and it just unraveled with the

1223
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: Rams get after him a little bit. I mean, that's

1224
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, and we taught coaching, coaching, coaching coaching, Listen,

1225
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: Kevin easy guy to like, media loves him, like Google

1226
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: how many big games the guy's won in his life?

1227
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: You know? I mean this is like I think we

1228
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: just look at him like an equal to all these cats,

1229
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: like zero career playoff wins last time I checked. So

1230
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 2: and now he's a road dog against Sean McVeigh road favorite.

1231
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Like, I just think people are underestimate. Now listen,

1232
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: the Rams have not looked good when they were playing guys,

1233
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: but remove the Buffalo game. Offense has been off. But

1234
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: to me, like this is a classic spot Like last week, right,

1235
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: Sean mcvagy didn't give a shit about that game. Who

1236
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: do you think they were game planning for during the

1237
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: week of the Seattle game. They were probably breaking down

1238
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: the Lions and the vikings. Half the staff does one,

1239
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 2: half the staff does other, and Jimmy just run ten

1240
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: of our plays all game long. He didn't care about

1241
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: that game, which you could argue whether he should have

1242
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 2: because now he plays Washington, but we know that's not

1243
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: what Sean does. I just think coaching coaching. Coaching matters

1244
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: a lot, and listen, I'm not acting like Kevin O'Connell

1245
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: and Flores aren't good, but I'm pro Sam Darnold. But

1246
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: if he gets off. The other thing is confidence. It

1247
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: takes a while to build up, and it really kind

1248
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: of came for him. It could go away. I don't

1249
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: care what you do really quick. So now like short week,

1250
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: ton of pressure, everyone's kind of questioning him. Now, what

1251
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: if you have a bad couple of early drives. I

1252
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: could just see that getting weird fast or just goes well.

1253
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they clearly have a lot of talent and

1254
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: Sam's made a lot of big plays, but their coach

1255
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: is not gonna keep like he is going to be

1256
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: relentless on calling pass plays. That's just what he does.

1257
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams secondary worries me a bit here against

1258
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and like, I feel like I'm selling the Vikings.

1259
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm selling like low on them after what we saw

1260
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: last week. But I'm with you on the Rams. I

1261
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 1: bet the Rams Now. It's a little dicey with way

1262
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: more important things in the world, but you know, the

1263
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: air quality just and the fire that they could force

1264
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: in the move, which obviously wouldn't be ideal. But at

1265
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day, give me the better quarterback

1266
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: as a home dog in this matchup.

1267
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 2: Likely it definitely wouldn't be ideal too if they came here,

1268
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of people from the

1269
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 2: general Minnesota region live in Arizona and definitely signing I

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Speaker 2: could see that being like eighty bike.

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Speaker 1: Expanse yep uh. Yeah, So that wouldn't be ideal, But

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Speaker 1: as of right now, they're still planning to play it

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Speaker 1: that so far, Just give me the better quarterback, and again,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the stat before first time quarterback, a quarterback

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Speaker 1: making their first time first playoff start thirty three percent.

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Speaker 1: I think it's nineteen thirty seven and one against quarterbacks

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,959
Speaker 1: of playoff experience hasn't gone well. And Darnald it looked

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Speaker 1: like he was seeing ghosts last week. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it, they have a Now you've won fourteen games,

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Speaker 1: but you might have you have to go on the road,

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: which is crazy a while a weekend, but you might

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback and a kicker who are lacking in

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Speaker 1: confidence because Will Reker really struggled down the stretch and

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01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: Rams kicker Cardy who's had his struggles at times, he's

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Speaker 1: now has a ton of I think you have a

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Speaker 1: fifty seven and a fifty eight year order that could

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Speaker 1: make the difference. But yeah, and you mentioned with McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: Some people agree with it, some people don't. But that's

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Speaker 1: what he always does. He did in twenty seventeen, did

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Speaker 1: it last year, did it this year. He doesn't care

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Speaker 1: about the seeding in in this case, I can see

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Speaker 1: it in a way like Stafford's older down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: he looked a little bit older, and they didn't have

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Speaker 1: a buy since like week five, So I think that

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Speaker 1: the rest the preparation. They they just had a bye

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Speaker 1: week last weeks. You have Stafford and this offense, home

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Speaker 1: dog better quarterback. Yeah, I'm taking it. And then the

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Speaker 1: Bikes has been good. O'Connell hell of the season what

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Speaker 1: he's done with Darnell. But I think the Rams can

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Speaker 1: get pressure here. And look the Vikings. They did win

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Speaker 1: ten games in a row before the loss of the lines.

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Speaker 1: The only playoff team that they beat during that stretch

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: was the Packers by two. That was it during that stretch.

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Speaker 1: And I still think that their secondary is very vulnerable,

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: like just from a talent perspective, and the Rams receivers,

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Speaker 1: I think they can. I actually think the Rams can

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Speaker 1: run it to The Vikings have a really good statistical

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: run defense, but that's because most of the year they

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01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: were up and like they were leading teams and dictating

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: the game state, and like he saw when they played

1311
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: teams like the Lions, when they weren't up, they Lions

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01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: ran all over them. So I think Kien Williams can

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Speaker 1: have enough success here. So yeah, I would be very

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Speaker 1: concerned about Donald, especially if he gets off to a

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Speaker 1: slow start. But even at Donald's on, like the Rams

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: can still keep up, Like look at the Bills game right,

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: Like the Rams can still win this in a shootout

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Speaker 1: if they need to. And yeah, they have the rest

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Speaker 1: of preparation advantage. I am super curious, Like there's there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of matchups here. One thing I should mention

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Speaker 1: back to the Bucks coaching, like Liam, give me Liam

1322
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: Cohn over Cliff Kingsbury too, so like that that matters too.

1323
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Speaker 1: But here Floras versus McVeigh is such a fascinating chess

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Speaker 1: mesh to me, because what does Floras do in the

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: first meeting. So the Rams beat the Vikings are this

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01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: year at home. In that game, it was a pretty

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: tricky spot for the Bikings. They were on a short

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 1: week Thursday night, had a go out West. They didn't

1329
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: know Nikool was going to play, like he was highly questionable.

1330
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: Flora said he wasn't he didn't think he was gonna play.

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: He found that he was shocked, so he didn't really

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: have a game plan Ford Nikkoh and like it was

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01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: a short week anyway, they didn't blitz as much as

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: they usually do, but they play a ton of zone

1335
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna blitz a lot Stafford picks up

1336
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: and those receivers did just destroy zone. And I think

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01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: Stafford this year some metch is like thirty first against Man,

1338
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: the top three against Zone. Flora is one, you know,

1339
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: one game this year and Jordan Love is kind of

1340
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: similar splits too. Flora's won one of the games against

1341
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: the Packers this year went just against everything they've been

1342
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: doing all here and played went Man heavy. So I'm

1343
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: very curious to see, like the game plan to mcdagh

1344
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: has he always has like a really good wrinkle, you know,

1345
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: like just something you wouldn't expect them on the offense

1346
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: and how what they're gonna run and then what does

1347
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: Floras do? Like that's such a cool chess match to me,

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Speaker 1: But to boil it down to the most simplified terms

1349
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: would sometimes you just have to do better quarterback home dog,

1350
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: assuming they're playing at home. Give me.

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01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: I also think, you know, two years ago when they

1352
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: lost the Giants in this round, they had won thirteen

1353
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: games and I just had to google it because I

1354
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: was like, they win twelve, they went thirteen to four.

1355
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: This year they have fourteen wins. If you lose twice

1356
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: in three years in the first round, when you win

1357
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: a total of twenty seven games, Like I do think

1358
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: we'd Kevin O'Connell's good, but I also thought that, and listen,

1359
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: it might not have directly come from him, but for

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01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 2: a story to come out in one of the biggest

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01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: days of his coaching career that like teams might trade

1362
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: for him, clearly he wants to get paid. Like it

1363
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: was kind of parcelsy in it's like, bro, let's pump

1364
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: the brakes. You're gonna get paid this offseason. If I

1365
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: was Dan Campbell, I would have been licking my lips.

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Speaker 2: It's like these players aren't dumb, like they know what's

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01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 2: going on. It's like, okay, you tell all these players

1368
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: with focus, focus, focus. Meanwhile, you got fucking Glazer talking

1369
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: about like guys are gonna trade essentially like it's I

1370
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: make seven million, it's time to pay me like fifteen.

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01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I was like, oh, that's not a

1372
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: good sign. And that's kind of classic football. You can

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: do that if you're if you're Andy Reid or something

1374
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: like Kevin, let's let's slow down, and then you get

1375
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: your ass kicked against Aaron Glenn. I mean, come on, man.

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Speaker 1: Very very interesting timing on those reports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I I didn't like that at all,

1378
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: and if I was a Vikings fan, and I know

1379
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: they're not as like inside baseball on at all, but

1380
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear, uh you know who wants to why

1381
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: that report comes out, right, especially when it comes out

1382
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: you know, Minnesota hasn't talked to him about a contract extension.

1383
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: It's like, well, let's let's win a real game. You

1384
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: win a lot of regular SHOs and games like that's cool.

1385
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: Like Mike mcgaaniel's won some regular Sheason games. He's got

1386
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: bounced in the first round a couple times. Like are

1387
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: you getting bounced in the first round a couple of times?

1388
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 2: So I think this is a big moment for Kevin O'Connell,

1389
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,480
Speaker 2: who is like, now again, I'm not anti Kevin O'Connell,

1390
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: but he you know, Brandon Staley, was this really really quick?

1391
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: Then everyone jumped off of McDaniel. Was this for a while?

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's that new version now again, thirteen fourteen wins.

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: Those are great regular seasons. You start winning a real

1394
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 2: game and this is a real game.

1395
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: Yep. I agree with you. That makes the playoffs so

1396
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: fascinating and some of it's not fair, and some of

1397
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: it's fair right for sure. The world you live in

1398
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL with one and done's and then questions

1399
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: start getting asked. By the way, I'm curious to get

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01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this. We debated this on my NFL

1401
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: podcast this week. If you had we're just gonna take

1402
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: the NFC this year's NFC, and that you have to

1403
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: get through the NFC and then you have to play

1404
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: the AC your goal is to win a Super Bowl.

1405
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: All of the rosters are the same, all of the

1406
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: coaching stats are the same. There's no advantage. You have

1407
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: the same scheme that every other player is the same. Like,

1408
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: so if you were like playing on Madden, you would

1409
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: have the same players except quarterback. And you can choose

1410
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: which quarterback for your team in the NFC that you

1411
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: would take that's currently in the playoffs. Which quarterback are

1412
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: you taking? If your goal is to win a Super

1413
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: Bowl this year and to get through the playoffs this

1414
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: year and then the beat you know either presumably the Chiefs,

1415
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: Bills are Ravens. Which NFC quarterback are you rolling with.

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna sound crazy because I probably talk some shit

1417
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: about this guy, but I might take Jalen hurts just

1418
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 2: because he can move, you know, almost, aid Jaden, I

1419
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: just the Jared Goff thing. If what if my offensive

1420
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: line is not great? And who's my coach? All of

1421
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,839
Speaker 2: a sudden he can't move like he's he's pretty predicad

1422
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: like his success is predicated on some.

1423
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: Protection, right And yeah, Ben Ben Johnson.

1424
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I I aw Stafford, but like you said,

1425
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: I mean the version of Stafford a couple of years ago.

1426
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: He's looked a little.

1427
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: Old, so he can't move.

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: No, So I that's tough. It's it's hard to ranked

1429
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: the NFC quarterbacks because like Jordan loves like this raw

1430
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: big time talent who we've seen have some moments, but

1431
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: he can also look like crap.

1432
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: It's love because just if there there, you could make

1433
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: a case for so many of them. But I wouldn't

1434
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: take Daniels just because he's a rookie.

1435
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: But like you could, I would need I would need

1436
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 2: mobility in this exercise.

1437
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could argue, Baker, you could argue many. I

1438
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: think I would take love. I think I might take

1439
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: love because I want to win the super Bowl and

1440
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: I need to like beat the Chiefs or the Ravens.

1441
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: Of the bills and all the ross is the same

1442
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 1: in the NFC. Love's upside, I know, is really high,

1443
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: like when he's on and clicking. But yeah, there's no

1444
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: like this is the clear, the right answer in the NFC,

1445
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: different universe.

1446
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, from a quarterback perspective, for sure, I think the

1447
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 4: you even have Herbert, like even the you have the

1448
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 4: top tier, second tier, and then even the next tier

1449
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 4: with you know, Herbert and Stroud out.

1450
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: You would take Herbert over every guy in the NFC

1451
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: without hesitation. Yes, you know, absolutely the one thing that

1452
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: I gotta Two things were pretty cool last weekend. Obviously

1453
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 2: Bryce Young. It's just what a cool story. I mean,

1454
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: he looked I mean he looked like a UFL player,

1455
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: and then to come back in after Andy Dalton gets

1456
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: in the car accident and not just look like a

1457
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: real NFL player, like be kind of a fun like, Ah,

1458
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: they might have something there. I do think, Baker no.

1459
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: Look throw the guy who looked like said your own confidence,

1460
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: like hated his life being out there, to then in

1461
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: one season then be throwing a no look throw like

1462
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: taking leadership, yelling at guys, having fun, smiling. Yeah, it's uh,

1463
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: it was definitely encouraging him. So it was nice to say,

1464
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: for a guys.

1465
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: We could all be jaded and negative, you know, the

1466
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: longer you work in this and just it's easier to be,

1467
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, down on guys. But that was just an

1468
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: easy story to kind of make you smile and easy

1469
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: got a roof for I do think there are some similarities.

1470
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: It's way different. But in terms of like what Baker

1471
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: has turned into these last two years, I don't know

1472
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: if it's getting married, having a child. Clearly he's you know,

1473
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 2: it's hard to tell like his body, but I think

1474
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: he's talking about slim down a little bit because he

1475
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: moves dramatically better. He's always had a really explosive arm.

1476
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just a really good player. You know,

1477
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: he's not in the Josh Allen Lamar mahomes, but he

1478
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: for sure to me as a top ten quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. And he's a really good player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just has to avoid the catastrophic mistakes which

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Speaker 1: he can at times just throw a ball in waywards

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Speaker 1: way a bit too much. But yeah, his mobility and

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Speaker 1: then like Liam Cohen has been amazing and you do

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Speaker 1: need help as a quarterback and you can't just have

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Speaker 1: a one dimensional offense. They couldn't run the ball a

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Speaker 1: lick and now they have a dynamic rushing attack. It

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Speaker 1: helps everything else out. So yeah, that Baker has been

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Speaker 1: fun to watch this year, and his scrambling has been

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Speaker 1: has been great. But yeah, young, there's there's definitely some

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Speaker 1: some promise there now for sure for Carolina in the

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Speaker 1: future where it looked like it was it was dead.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Bucks are just well run, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they draft well, they just they just run

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Speaker 2: a good operation. Obviously, it's you know, now starts with Baker.

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Speaker 2: So okay, let's uh, let's have an exciting weekend and uh,

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Speaker 2: I hope at least, like, I don't know, seventy five

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Speaker 2: of these games are good because we're gonna get a

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Speaker 2: couple of blowouts and the duds in the second half,

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Speaker 2: but hopefully some of them are, you know, really good.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we even get like a legendary, you know, just

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Speaker 2: game of the year.

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Speaker 1: But at least four really good'd be awesome. If there's

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Speaker 1: five that are really good.

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Speaker 2: But the Monday Night game recently has been a dud,

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Speaker 2: right Dak blew out Tom Brady last year, the Bucks

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: blew out the Eagles, so hopefully I wouldn't mind it.

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,480
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, remember the Rams kicked Kingsbury

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01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: and Kyler's ass. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't mind a good

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Speaker 2: Monday night game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be nice, especially since they're making those

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Speaker 1: teams play on a short week Anyway, the yeah, just

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Speaker 1: keep in mind historically doesn't mean it's prorective. But this

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Speaker 1: weekend you're listening, this weekend generally a dog weekend, and

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Speaker 1: that's what Wildcard weekend has been. If you're if you're

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Speaker 1: looking to bet the and home dog weekend. Specifically, I

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Speaker 1: happen to like both home dogs to speak, Charger Texans

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Speaker 1: and Rams.

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Speaker 2: Okay, stuck y, I'll talk to you next week. We'll

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Speaker 2: dive into the Divisional round and we'll dive into uh,

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Speaker 2: we'll know who's playing in the National Championship, So be

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Speaker 2: an exciting I mean, Divisional round widely considered the best

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Speaker 2: weekend and you know, all football and obviously the National

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Speaker 2: Championship is we're recording this on Thursday before the games

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Speaker 2: has a chance to be I mean, pretty incredible matchups.

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Speaker 2: So fired up for some football. Talk to you soon, buddy,

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Speaker 2: You bet have a good wee gun brother. The volume