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Speaker 1: metstup listeners, we're back episode number thirty nine of the

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Speaker 1: met stub podcast. Boy oh boy. If you thought last

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Speaker 1: episode was bad, buckle up get ready, cause it's gonna

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Speaker 1: get real bad today. It is ugly, it is disgusting,

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Speaker 1: it is deplorable, it is disrespectful. It is every bad

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Speaker 1: word and negative thing that you can think of right now. Putrid, Putrid,

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Speaker 1: Putrid's another one. It's bad in New York Mets World.

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Speaker 1: It is terrible. I'm not feeling great, literally like not

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Speaker 1: feeling great, and emotionally not feeling great, mentally not feeling great.

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Speaker 1: We had a grueling day yesterday of a scavenger hunt

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Speaker 1: the absolute disgrace, the absolute shit show that was the

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Speaker 1: and the Mets got swept. So me and James are gonna,

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Speaker 1: of course talk through this series very briefly because really,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think it's more

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Speaker 1: about the narratives of this series. There's not many highlights.

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Speaker 1: The Mets got stomp the Mets got curb stumped. They

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Speaker 1: looked terrible, probably the worst baseball they've played all year long,

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Speaker 1: but the offense has been non existent. Again, this has

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Speaker 1: everything new York Mets. We've got a lot of topics

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Speaker 1: as well on Twitter at Jeeter had no range, me giraffneck. Mark.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm gonna bring in James, because I think

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Speaker 1: I can't lament enough on how frustrated I am from

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Speaker 1: this series.

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Speaker 2: No, there is basically nothing to pull from this series

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Speaker 2: we usually do on this show. Generally, we'll break down

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Speaker 2: game by game for you guys kind of what we've done.

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Speaker 2: We kind of like doing that a lot. Not doing

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Speaker 2: I don't want to relive these last three games. Mark

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to relive these games, and I know you

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Speaker 2: And at top of that, as Mark said, we're tired today.

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Speaker 2: I set up a scavenger hunty yesterday for a big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was just bad. It was bad.

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Speaker 1: They can't do anything right. Well, they can. They can

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Speaker 1: If it gets worse, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 2: We could be ten games under five hundred on September first.

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Speaker 1: The way this team's playing, it's conceivable that they don't

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Speaker 1: You can't win if you don't score runs. It's the

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Speaker 1: There's been so much talk. We were so excited about

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Speaker 1: Every single player, for the most part, has had the

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Speaker 2: Feels like Mets Metrics on Twitter, anyone out there doesn't

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Speaker 2: Like the Mets see the twelfth most four seam fast

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Speaker 2: We're whipping more than league gverage on fast balls and

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Speaker 2: We also just see the most curve balls have the

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Speaker 2: you just can't hit in general. Like it's hard to

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Speaker 2: Mets struggles like how can we fix this? Oh no,

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Speaker 2: we can't hit fastball and curveballs. Oh what the what

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Speaker 2: the fuck are you gonna do? Then what's next?

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Speaker 1: I feel like everyone is trying to figure out that

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Speaker 1: think you put it really well. They just can't hit.

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Speaker 2: It's really it.

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Speaker 1: At some point, the players have to play, they have

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Speaker 1: to do that every other team in baseball or not

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Speaker 1: every other team, But the good teams don't have these problems.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not. And you mentioned how people are trying

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Speaker 2: I really like Mike Petriello's article that dropped on Friday

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Speaker 2: with the past article. Yeah, really great. Anyone that there

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Speaker 2: And I'm pretty positive he's a Mets fan.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think he's a Mets fan, but he's

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Speaker 2: That there was tons of evidence in hard data, and

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Speaker 2: are going for that. They have twelve so few. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they had one this weekend, right.

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Speaker 1: No, And I feel like on Pete's gotta have ten

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Speaker 2: The record for Low's and the season is nineteen and

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to read you some of

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even convinced these are real people. Like

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Speaker 2: on one baseball team. There's not one redeemable baseball player

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Speaker 2: after this dreadful season with the Padres, ed Spiezio, Enzo Hernandez,

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Speaker 2: Tommy Dean, these are all fake people. Clay Kirby, Fred Norman, like,

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Speaker 2: who the fuck are these guys? Bob Miller. Bob Miller,

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Speaker 2: who was on the San Diego Padres team that set

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Speaker 1: It's like there was an open tryout and they were

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Speaker 2: It was their third year. I'm sure if we look

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Speaker 1: I believe I saw something on Twitter. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: Historically one of the worst teams to ever play the game.

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Speaker 2: Literally, and really with his Petri Petriollo article came down

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Speaker 2: took Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor and Dominic Smith and

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Speaker 2: yanking down all of our season long numbers, and that

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Speaker 2: leaving the second half that last Sunday game at Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: hit and like part of this also ties back into

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Speaker 2: to hit in all baseball. Actually, in terms of stack

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Speaker 1: No, it's tough to hit city Field, but seemingly other

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Speaker 2: So and we just spend his whole week in Assistance

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Speaker 2: We could not do anything besides back to back to

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Speaker 1: So I think it's also worth noting that there has

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Speaker 1: of the worst and average as well, But there's no

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Speaker 1: team with twenty four. Do you know who's number two?

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Speaker 2: I saw this on Twitthers today, but I'm gonna guess

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Speaker 1: It's Jonathan VR. Jonathan VR has twelve home runs. You

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't played in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: This team, it's like the Monstars came in and sucked

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Speaker 2: Dude, no one on the Mets has an offensive war

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Speaker 2: four wins above replacement right now. Mark Kanaha missed a

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Speaker 2: fucking Candelario. Your boy would have the highest war if

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Speaker 2: bad luck. Balls are not finding gloves. We just actually

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Speaker 1: No, it's a serious problem. And part of this problem

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Speaker 1: We're having to put guys in situations that shouldn't be there.

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Speaker 1: And listen, Jonathan VR second most in home runs, right, great,

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Speaker 2: There was a time in May when the alar brothers

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Speaker 2: Jonathan VR and Kevin Pilar account for fifteen percent of

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Speaker 2: He only has the three percent walk right to show

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and then when you like have those guys

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Speaker 1: You give away games, You give away innings.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, and this whole cold streak is starting to make

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Speaker 1: A lot of metfields. Wild like to tell you that

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Speaker 1: He's pretty horrible out there.

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Speaker 2: I test. It looks like he's improving because he makes

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Speaker 1: No, we definitely overestimated dom We one million percent overestimated

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who's ops will hover in that seven

432
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Speaker 1: thirty seven forty range to about eight hundred eight to

433
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 1: fifty at the max, and boy, oh boy, he is

434
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: just way worse than that. Like I I don't know,

435
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,399
Speaker 1: We've been trying to figure it out for weeks months

436
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 1: what is wrong with Michael Confordo. And I think the

437
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 1: answer is he's just not that good.

438
00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 2: But he's not this bad. There's no way Michael before

439
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,879
Speaker 2: those not a below league average hither Michael confourthough, is

440
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,679
Speaker 2: the cumulative of Michael Conford when he's like working at

441
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 2: his base, like his medium outcome. That's still a very

442
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 2: five major league baseball player. But like all of the

443
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,480
Speaker 2: good batter ball luck he had last year is just

444
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 2: all gone this year. Because he's still hitting the ball

445
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 2: similarly hard, he's still making a similar amount of contact.

446
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 2: It's just completely broken. He's a guy who still will

447
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 2: regress to the mean. There just has to be like

448
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 2: a three week stretch from back and fourth that at

449
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 2: least hits like three hundred. That will probably happen, maybe

450
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 2: like four or five home runs in a month. He

451
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 2: could do that the rest of the season, which would

452
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 2: be more if you extrapolated that over an entire one

453
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two game sample, look more like what

454
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 2: would have happened. But there's just no signs of that happening.

455
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: And also there's no guarantee that that would even help

456
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 2: this team very much at the moment.

457
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 1: No, because we're not scoring any run. So Michael confordo

458
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 1: is one home run that he's gonna hit every three

459
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 1: weeks really, probably not gonna do much for us. We

460
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 1: need this guy to actually be a good baseball player again,

461
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know when that's coming. It's probably, honestly

462
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: hate to be that guy. Probably not ever coming again

463
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: as a New York.

464
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: Met No, probably not. There's gonna be a question now

465
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Speaker 2: whether he's even worth the qualifying off because we have

466
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 2: seen how cheaply you can acquire good bats for corner

467
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 2: outfield spots year and you're at Obviously, Garcia was free.

468
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 2: He has sixty RBIs and twenty home runs. Kyles Forbor

469
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: was also basically free. We know what he can do.

470
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 2: Eddie Rozario was basically free. He's a fine bat, melody order.

471
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 2: He's not an impact player really at this point his career.

472
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: But these are guys who are gonna be available so cheaply.

473
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 2: Not these guys, exactly some of them will be because

474
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 2: mostly they're actually all on one year deals. Yeah, Jock, two, Yeah, Jock.

475
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 2: These types of players are abundantly available. I don't know

476
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 2: if it's worth even committing eighteen million dollars some four though,

477
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: at this point.

478
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: No, because I think he takes it I think he does.

479
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get more than that. Like

480
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 1: if he wants a one year deal, he might be

481
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: able to get like a one year twenty mil from

482
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: a team that's like, we want a guy right now,

483
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: we need that left handed bat that's already in there

484
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: and good. But if you're the Mets, that eighteen million

485
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: dollars can actually go to some players that are really

486
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna help you because there are needs that we would

487
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: like to address, and I'd rather spend that eighteen million

488
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: dollars on keeping guys that are gonna help us win.

489
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael Confordo is that guy for us,

490
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 1: especially when you've mentioned it a lot. Tommy FAM's available,

491
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: Let's go to spend ten mil on Tommy Fam and

492
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 1: call it a day.

493
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: That's my whole point. There is an abundance of corner

494
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: outfielders who are good, good, not great, who are like

495
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: fined in the outfield, can't play center, but could just

496
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 2: do a fine left to right. And I agree with

497
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: you if we're actually not gonna blow through the luxury tax,

498
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: which I wish that we would, and we've all like

499
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: been edging, like oh uncle, Steve's gonna blow through, It's

500
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: gonna be it's all at once, like a YadA YadA.

501
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 2: So I think it's kind of bullshit, and that we're

502
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: just gonna sit right at the luxury tax for the

503
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: foreseeable future, which means that eighteen million dollars will be

504
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: a very big deal this offseason.

505
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,880
Speaker 1: I think I talked about this with you last night

506
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: as well. The Mets, I think also got a little

507
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: bit scared off by the Dodgers. I think that acquisition

508
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: of mad Max and trade Turner. Now this is kind

509
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: of moving into the trade deadline, but this also has

510
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: to do with the construction of this team and how

511
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: we're spending money. The Dodgers getting sures Are and Turner

512
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: almost seemed like it's scared the Mets off a little

513
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: bit there, and that they didn't push as hard and

514
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: they weren't trying to go crazy.

515
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, but don't we're even talking about the trade deadline.

516
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: We mentioned no La episodes.

517
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 1: No, But I'm just saying like it seems like the Mets,

518
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: if they don't have to, are gonna try their hardest

519
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: not to go over the luxury tax. And I feel

520
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 1: like the trade deadline was another inside look to that.

521
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about more about the offseason. I felt

522
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: like it would have been a ballder move for Steve

523
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: Cohen just walk in, just sign all the biggest free

524
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: agents and go through luxury tax because he could.

525
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 1: I think we thought he was going to it.

526
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: Felt like he was thinking about it because they were

527
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: talking about how they were gonna build through free agency

528
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: and not trades. And this team has only acquired good

529
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: players via trade now since Steve Cohen Sandy Alligin took

530
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: back over. And I don't know if that's like an

531
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: issue with transparency or maybe the markets just developed differently.

532
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 2: Maybe they shouldn't be telling us this many things. Steve

533
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: continues to tweet, and I asked Mets fans today from

534
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: the mess up Twitter how they feel about it, and

535
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: I think people are still generally okay with his voice online.

536
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: This was before Zach Wheeler bent us over. Yeah, so

537
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: different vibe if I sent that after the game. But

538
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, this whole thing feels very weird now

539
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 2: that this team has just completely completely falling apart. Like

540
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: I got a notifications today that Jose Martinez began to

541
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: rehab assignment I just I blinked. I was like, this

542
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: is a dream and my fever dreaming right now, Like

543
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: how could this be a sentence in real life? That

544
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: Jose Martinez towards Meniscus, He's like fifty years old in March.

545
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 2: He's gonna come back and try and help the team.

546
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: Where's gonna play the field? He's gonna pay forst base

547
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: he We're gonna bring him. This team gets injured every

548
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: three seconds, We're gonna bring out Jose Martinez roster who

549
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: literally doesn't have a position. He could play on defense.

550
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 2: He's an exclusive pinch hither in the Lord's eyear of

551
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. How is that really gonna help?

552
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. And we didn't

553
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: get any help either today because Habibaya's got hurt and

554
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: we don't even know what the fuck's going on there.

555
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: He took a swing. It looked like his obleiaque I

556
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: saw a hip hip hip obleak. Whatever it was, it was,

557
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: it was a muscle mets. Seemingly, anybody who comes to

558
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: this team in New York is going to pull some

559
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: sort of muscle at some point. What was he here

560
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: a week and a half and he got hurt in

561
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: like three games.

562
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: He's been hurt multiple times since he was traded for.

563
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with the training staff,

564
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: but something, just like the Mets hitting is clearly broken

565
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: and it needs to change. And Brian Chicklow, who again,

566
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: you should never know the head athletic trainer's name. It's

567
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: never good to know the athletic trader of your Major

568
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: League baseball team's name. The only other athletic trainer I've

569
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: ever known was Ray Ramirez. Yes, and that guy was

570
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: known because the same thing that's happening right now is

571
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: happening or happened with Ray Ramirez. The Mets can't stay

572
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: getting hurt. They keep missing big players. It's affecting their season.

573
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: It's terrible. And Chicklow was part of the Ray Ramiro staff,

574
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: so I don't know how this guy's completely avoided getting

575
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: his head chopped when Ray Ramiroz was gone.

576
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna support your point while also boobooing it because

577
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: we the Mets, have lost the most expected war. Just

578
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: do the injury. That was another stat that Petrella Flash

579
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: has article. So it's clear that injuries and just a

580
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: lot of our best hitters having disjointed seasons. Not like

581
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: McNeil comes to mind, especially that he was cold, then

582
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: he was injured, and now it's taking a while to

583
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: get back from that point to actually start hitting. Took

584
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: Mcjeffian Giel like three months actually hit and.

585
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: He still can't run.

586
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still can't run. It doesn't even try to that.

587
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: We we missed out on a run that could have

588
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: tied the game or given us a lead on Friday

589
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: Night because McNeil couldn't leg out a triple on a

590
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: ball that karramed across the entire outfield. And then we

591
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: lost out on one of our twelve fucking sack flies

592
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: the next bat there because he was on seconds to

593
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: the third guy. So, but also, injuries are just abundant

594
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: in baseball. This year baseball's early set of record for

595
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: soft tissue injuries in a single season. Derek Rhodes does

596
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: great research on this on Twitter. Good follow if you're

597
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: more into stats and daya than things like that. I'm

598
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: not gonna brain, but Brian Chickolo Dodgers have dealt with

599
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: the rash of injuries. The Padres, the Yankees, all the

600
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: good teams have also been hurt they've just had pieces

601
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: that continue to play well the whole time. That's something

602
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: the Mets have lacked because the only piece that was

603
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: was Pete Alonzo. And he's all for his last fucking

604
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: twenty or twenty two, whatever it is. He looks completely lost.

605
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm not worried, because Pete will just do this once

606
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: a month. He'll just forget how to hit for a week.

607
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: And it's always like some stupid thing like he shaved

608
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: his goatee and now we can't hit anymore, or like

609
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: the haircut, or like a bat or a glove. He's

610
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: just such a neurotic fucking dude. I don't even know.

611
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: It's just he caught the bug.

612
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: I think Pete also is getting a little bit feeling

613
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: probably a little pressure on his shoulders, being like I

614
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: gotta be the guy to do something. We've seen that

615
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: with Pete in the past before that, like when he

616
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: tries to do too much, he's really not good. It's

617
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: not his game. He has to sit back, relax, do

618
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: his breathing, take his little check swings when he's warming

619
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: up at the play, like he's got to be so loose.

620
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: And that's what I loved about Pete or still love him.

621
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: But that's what I love about him is he's loose.

622
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: He seems like the guy who keeps the dudes loose

623
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: and seems like right now he's tight. He's tight, he's anxious,

624
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to make something happen, and that's just not his.

625
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: Game definitely, But he still, like is cerebral. And I

626
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: just thought it was funny on Friday night because Kyle

627
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: Gibson was working very fast in that game and Strowman,

628
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: those guy to both fast workers a lot of balls

629
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: in play. Pete stepped out after every single pitch and

630
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: all of his at bats against Gibson, which was I

631
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: think a little bit gamesmanship, Yes, so I like that. Yeah,

632
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: it was also a little bit of like we need

633
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: anything because we can't do anything. That's what's exactly what's

634
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: happening with this team.

635
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: No can't do anything whatsoever. I think a huge part

636
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: with this too, why the team is struggling so much.

637
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: No Lindor kills us, And that's probably a sentence that

638
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of met fans are shocked, we're saying because

639
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: of how Lindor had played this year. But as we know,

640
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: right before he got hurt, we started to see what

641
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor was going to look like for the next

642
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: ten years, and we're like, there he is. That's the

643
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: player hitting for the average, getting on base ops, hovering

644
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: an above eight hundred, playing goal glove defense like he has.

645
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: And even though his numbers, you know, for the entire year,

646
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: don't look great, he was still so important for us

647
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: in that two hole because he had competitive at bats,

648
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: he played great defense at shortstop. He is still an

649
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: elite shortstop. Maybe he's dropping down your rankings, whatever it's

650
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: gonna be, but the fact of the matter is that

651
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: this guy really does push our team forward to that

652
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: next level. And you can kind of track when the

653
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: Mets started slumping and stinking to when Francisco Indoors out

654
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: of the line.

655
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: And slumping and stinking. From a wins and losses standpoint,

656
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: it's not like an offensive production standpoint. And it's just

657
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: it's ironic as fuck because there are still Mets fans

658
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 2: in my mentions, I'm sure yours and the Mets up

659
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: every single day. We're like, yeah, we even we don't

660
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: even need trashlandor backs. Like you guys have any clue

661
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: do you watch baseball? Do you understand what's happening on

662
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: the screen, or is there just like a switch in

663
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: your brain that's flipped off every time you watch the

664
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: Mets play. And he was just such a relaxing presence

665
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: at shortstop and in that two hole that is so gone,

666
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 2: just been sucked away from this team and we need

667
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: them so badly. But it's gonna come to a point

668
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: in the next couple of weeks where it's like, is

669
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: he even really gonna come back for an extended period

670
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: of time.

671
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I've been seeing like end

672
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: of August as a possibility, but that doesn't feel actually possible.

673
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: I think end of August feels super possible. It was

674
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: a three to five week timeline, that's the oblique, and

675
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Lindor's gonna try and rush because that's the guy he

676
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: is and the team very clearly needs him. No injury

677
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: is more likely to reoccur than a soft tissue, and

678
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: of all the soft tissues, it's just Hampshire. Those go

679
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: like that and you can't get them back. We've seen

680
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: it again, Like you said, Jef McNeil still can't run,

681
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: and he pulled the hamstring in the beginning of June

682
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 2: we played the Rays. It feels like three seasons.

683
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Ago, feels like so long ago, and you just like

684
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: go through every spot in the lineup. It just feels

685
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: like there's something to say, like McCann is back to

686
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: being old James McCann, which is like how he was

687
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: with the Tigers. So all right, defensively, still has the mccannon,

688
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: but he's a below the league average hitter and that's

689
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: what we're seeing this year out of him. But he's

690
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: our eight guy, so I'm not gonna go too crazy.

691
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: It sucks that we spent the money on him. You

692
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: are right, James, I'll give you that, thank you, But

693
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: he's our eight hitter, so I'm not gonna blame him

694
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: for all the problems of this offense because we could

695
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: look around at third base.

696
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: JD.

697
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Davis has hurt his hand and forgot how to hit.

698
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's swinging through fastballs like he's

699
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: swinging under underwater in a pool. I mean, his swing

700
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: is so slow right now. He looks lost, and he

701
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: doesn't play great defense. Jonathan vir can't be playing shortstop

702
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: every day. He's been fine for us, but finds not

703
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: good when you're trying to win a division. McNeil's heat

704
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: it up, Alonso's still solid. Then you go to the outfield.

705
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Dom Smith really been disappointing, even though he's playing better.

706
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I guess he's just like not doing anything that makes

707
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: him again good. He's fine right now. That's probably where

708
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: he stays. Michael gnfordos thinks Nimo's awesome. So we got

709
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: three guys of our eight hitters that are actually doing

710
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: something positive. We basically have five outs everywhere else every

711
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: single game. It's so tough. And then when you put

712
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: in Polar, you put in Tomas Nito, you put in

713
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: these backups, it makes it even worse. I mean McNeil

714
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: and Nimmo sat a game this series. You can't do that.

715
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: No, you can't do that. It can't happen. And I

716
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: think that's a good transition to where a lot of

717
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: the blame has come for this stretch, and it's on

718
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: Luis Rojas, and I really don't think that he's still

719
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: at this point deserves that he's catching. I get at

720
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: some point you kind of want your manager to do

721
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: some crazy shit, fire the team up and stop being like,

722
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: we know the group we have here is very good.

723
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna be good, Like Okay, you're gonna be good.

724
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna be good. You're gonna Good's fucking August. You

725
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: can't say that in August. Once, once the trade deadline passes,

726
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: you can no longer say like we're gonna be good,

727
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: like things are gonna click. This is we have a

728
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: lot of games played, more than one hundred of them

729
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: at this point, guys, this is what it is for now.

730
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: And not gonna shot on him, but I think his

731
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: seat is hotter than it should be, also.

732
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: With management, not just the fans. No, I think it's

733
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: definitely hot right now. I don't think he should lose

734
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: his job. I think the players have to play at

735
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: some point. There's only so much that he can do.

736
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: If you want to give him crap about his pitching decisions,

737
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: who's who he's bringing into the game, bullpen management, or

738
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: game time game decisions, that's fine, and I really think

739
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: that's okay. But player performance, that's not the players. There's

740
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: only so much that a manager can do. And if

741
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: guys like Michael Confordo, who the front office was expecting

742
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: to have a big year again, I think a lot

743
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: more blame should be going on the front office for

744
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: what's happening then, Luis Rojas. Yeah, I think that's kind

745
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: of been the point we've been driving at this entire

746
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: show so far, and some people have questioned those bullpen

747
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: decisions a lot, and some of them are Warranton's. Louis

748
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: Ross has made questionable decisions as a manager, but he's

749
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: basically just crossed his one hundred and sixty second game managing.

750
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: It's like he just finished his rookie year as a manager,

751
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: and specifically at decisions with Edwin Dias on Friday night

752
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: got crushed. But the guy hadn't pitched in a fucking week,

753
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: like he was on the paternity list, like he had

754
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: to get an inning at least. It was a close game.

755
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: It was a lock. He was gonna give up a run.

756
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: I texted you the second ending again, I said, Edwin,

757
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: dy is giving.

758
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: Up a run Locke pointing to the friggin sky Edwin stopped,

759
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: pointing you give up nukes.

760
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: At Terry Collins video bangs today from the mess Up Twether.

761
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had been holding onto that for after this

762
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: series when we got swept, because after the first game

763
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I was ready to tweet it out but I said,

764
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: it's really gonna bang if it comes out Sunday after

765
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: we get swept and embarrassed and might even be in

766
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: third place. People took it as if we want Terry

767
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Collins over Luis Rojas. Let's make this very clear, we

768
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I appreciate Terry. I loved him. He was

769
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: my favorite Mets manager that I've seen in my lifetime.

770
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: A little too young for Bobby V. Bobby V's kind

771
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: of the same cloth, though.

772
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna tell me Willie Randolph, Jerry Manuel, Ard Howe,

773
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: Terry Collins, those are the four you're choosing between. You

774
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: have no shit. Yeah, Terry Collins was the best.

775
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: No, of course. I mean Willy Randolph actually probably the best,

776
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: but Terry Collins, Yes, yeah, But anyway, moral of the

777
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: story is, people see that video of Terry Collins, which

778
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: is awesome. It's fantastic. He calls the players out and

779
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: basically says, if you don't want to be here, we

780
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: got guys who do. And I feel like that's very

781
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: true to this team. I don't know if anybody's dogging it.

782
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't get that sense, no shot, I don't get

783
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: the sense that they're not trying to win. I don't

784
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: get the sense that these guys have become complacent. But

785
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: what I do think rings true from what Terry Collins

786
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: said back in twenty sixteen when they got smacked by

787
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: a bad Diamondbacks team nine to nothing, is that these

788
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: guys are professionals. They know what they're doing, but at

789
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: some point they have to perform. They have to make

790
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: it an adjustment. They have to be able to be

791
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: better than how they're playing, because if they're not, they're

792
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: going to have to find somebody else. And maybe these

793
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: guys are a little too comfortable.

794
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I think that is the issue here, that we've

795
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: allowed some of the players in this team to become

796
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: way too comfortable in their roles. That was the point

797
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: I was trying to drive home with Don Smith before.

798
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: You can reference that with Jeff McNeil a little bit too.

799
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: Michael can Fourth though especially, I just wish that we

800
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: would have had more confident baseball players here who could

801
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: actually have challenged for starting spots. Like Kevin Pallar and

802
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: Jonathan vr A were great depth, but their roles were

803
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: very clear. If everyone's healthy, you guys are bench players,

804
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: and they know that because they are bench players at

805
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: this point in their respective careers. Jonathan vr and Kevin

806
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Palar are not breaking down walls yet. There they're not

807
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: hoisting trophies. No, unless they're like literally last player and

808
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: a roster. You see the Dodgers with a guy like

809
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: AJ Pollock, who when they signed him two years ago,

810
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: people like, what the Dodgers thinking, Where's he gonna play?

811
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Rally check. These guys are always gonna play because every

812
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: single person gets hurt in the course of Major League

813
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Baseball season. That is just what happens. No one plays

814
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: a hundred and six two games. Coby Bouncer just might

815
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: forget how to hit. And if that happens, AJ Pollock

816
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: is gonna it's gonna be the MVP of our team

817
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: because he fucking is.

818
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Look at Chris Taylor, He's so good, sick, He's awesome.

819
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: He's an All Star. He was picked up for scraps,

820
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: like through five, six years ago, whatever it was.

821
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Max Mounsey too. The whole Dodgers team is like that.

822
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Every single guy in the Giants was literally picked up

823
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: for scraps. There's not one hitter in that team that

824
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: the casual baseball fan would be like good, no, no shot,

825
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: and you just have to bring more people into a

826
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: night competition. Like I get we have chemistry and everyone's

827
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: such good friends and we like each other a fuck Tom,

828
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: But why the fuck don't we have more good baseball

829
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: players than this team? We just should and a lot

830
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: of them are on the EL. I get that, but

831
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: when everyone was completely healthy, like, there's still not enough

832
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: fire and like drive and life for these guys to

833
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: really fucking get after each other, like what the Braves

834
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: did the trade deadline, bringing guys like Jorge Hilaire, Adam

835
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: duval Am. I missing about.

836
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: Jack Peterson also Eddie Rosirade dead like just guys like that.

837
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Who you know? Those are superstars, but they're starting caliber players.

838
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: They have a much higher ceiling and floor than John

839
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: more than Kevin Pallar especially, or just get guys in,

840
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: don't worry about fucking playing time. If someone fails, that's

841
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: on them. They have to play better to get their

842
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: fucking roll back. Like that's how this works. This is sports.

843
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 2: Isn't that we're have children here, Let's go.

844
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm completely with you. I think the guys

845
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: and this is nothing that you can prove and it's

846
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't even think like really their fault, but like

847
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: it just feels like this team is a little too

848
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: relaxed for how bad the season has been. I want

849
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about Pete's comment here. Now. Pete

850
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 1: had a pretty awful comment after the game.

851
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: Awful.

852
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: It was super tone deaf in that it's not actually bad,

853
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: like he didn't actually say anything bad, like Pete, we

854
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: love you, man, but that was so fucking stupid what

855
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 1: he said here. And I'm gonna read it out because

856
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: I think it deserves it and you'll just understand. You

857
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: have to understand, like what's going on with the season

858
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more. You gotta read the room a

859
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: little bit more. Someone's gotta show a little life, and

860
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: this was too much of that. Everything's gonna be okay.

861
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: That Gary v bullshit. We keep trying our best and

862
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna do okay. I fucking hate Gary Vee. That

863
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: guy sucks. Oh he's the fucking worst. Yeah, he's intolerable.

864
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: He's so fucking rich, but he's intolerable.

865
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: He's painful and social media, and I hate that we

866
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: have like this constituency of like people our age, like

867
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: our demographic who like this, how you gotta live your

868
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: life grind believe you might struggle for next thirty of

869
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: the years, but if you make it to where you

870
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: want to make it, you did it should the fuck up.

871
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: But people enjoy themselves and be happy. Just be realistic here.

872
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Yes, So here's what Pete a Lonzo said, METS fans

873
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: believe in us and don't just believe no dot dot Like,

874
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: that's just so fucking corny. That's the corniest thing ever.

875
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: Pete is so corny.

876
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: I know, but that's so corny, Pete. And then that

877
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: this is just a speed bump and a challenge. I

878
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: understand that it's frustrating. It's frustrating for us know that

879
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: we've got this. I wish I could believe it, Pete.

880
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: I really do, I really do. But like you said

881
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: earlier in this episode, it's August. This is like this show.

882
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: I used to tell my parents when I was in

883
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: college and then they're like, how are your grades? I'm like, ah,

884
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: I'm like a hanging around like a D right now

885
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: in a class and they're like, are you gonna improve it?

886
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: I go, it's gonna get better. You gotta believe it.

887
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: My grands ended up.

888
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: It was a c I would get a see in

889
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: the class. I didn't fail, but I didn't do well.

890
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: This feels like just kind of like a bullshit cop

891
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: out of like, hey man, like everything's okay, it's gonna

892
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: be fine. You just gotta believe you can do it,

893
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: and we can. I hate it. I hate it. I

894
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: hate it. I hated it. I feel like this was

895
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: a moment where Pete really could have stepped up and

896
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: given a What we're doing is fucking terrible. We're playing

897
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: like shit and it's got a change, and I don't

898
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: think that that causes turmoil. I think some guys maybe

899
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: need to hear that. I think if Pete a lonzo

900
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: steps up in front of the media and just starts

901
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: dropping f bombs gives a profanity late speech about how

902
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: fucking bad it's been, while it probably doesn't really do anything.

903
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: These are adult men. This is their job. It's an

904
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: everyday grind. But just believe in us. Bullshit is just

905
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: such a bad look to the fans, to the team.

906
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's just so lame. It's lame.

907
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: Also outwardly, it's really lame. People like the Braves and

908
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: Philly see the Mets say it's a bump in the road.

909
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: We know we got the guys in here. He fucking losers.

910
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? How could you say that right now?

911
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: You just you just drop from first to third place

912
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: in division over a one week span, like less over

913
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: a two day span. Realistically, and more so than that,

914
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: someone has to break something, well literally, we need someone

915
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: to go into this dugout like Billy Bean did the moneyball,

916
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: take a bat and smash it over a bench. Something

917
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: has to be thrown yelled. There needs to be some

918
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: type of understanding that things are not going well. And

919
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: maybe the message is putting this on front of the

920
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: media because they know that they're the Mets and the

921
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: media will do anything to suit them. Maybe behind closed doors,

922
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: shit like this is happening. But someone has to just

923
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: do something reckless. As crazy as it is to say out.

924
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Loud, I don't know, like to me, this team has

925
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: this year specifically, you look at the turning points of

926
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: the season and there's been big moments. Jose Alvarado trying

927
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: to start a fight with Dom Smith, the team stepped up,

928
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindoor McNeil fight the team stepped up. Maybe a

929
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: comment today would have helped fire something up. I don't know,

930
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: because it's just like, there's no juice, dead as a

931
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: door nail, there's no pulse in this team right now.

932
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: And while that might be naive to say outside looking in, again,

933
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: we don't know what's actually happening. No, from what it

934
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: appears and from all the information that we know, it

935
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: feels like everyone's just like, it's okay, we'll figure it out.

936
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: It's fucking August. There's no figuring out anymore. You had

937
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: what eight weeks where you had a lead in first

938
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: place and you lost.

939
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: It to ninety days.

940
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could have pulled away so far from

941
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: these teams, this season could be over, and instead the

942
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Mets are possibly going to be a third place team

943
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: by the end of the week.

944
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: No, their third place team the second right now awful,

945
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: even worse. And what else is This team just can't

946
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: fucking do it, can't.

947
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: Do it, And there's got to be something that changes.

948
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: The hitting approach is fundamentally broken. Whatever it is is

949
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: fundamentally broken. Something's not working. I would love someone to

950
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: change it up, try something new, because it can't get

951
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: much worse, right this is the rock bottom Anthony Dicomo.

952
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: I really really hope this is rock bot. If we

953
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: have a bad series against the Nationals, messed up for

954
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: they is gonna be a disaster.

955
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: I was talking my dad about going to games. I'm like, well,

956
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to a game anytime soon. I'm like,

957
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I just I'm not paying money. I'm not spending my

958
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: time to go to Queens, even though I'm in Queens,

959
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 1: but to go to the game, ride the train, spend

960
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: sixty dollars, buy hot dog and food when you're gonna

961
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: play like absolute dog shit. I just got better things

962
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: to do. I can watch the game from home for free.

963
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: I've had this Dodgers ticket for weeks. I am so

964
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: dreading next Friday night at City Field. It's going to

965
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: be a miserable experience.

966
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: And listen. Intentionally, I think that this team can turn

967
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: it around. I hope. I believe. I don't want to

968
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: say I believe because I don't, but I think they can.

969
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: We know that there is a possibility it could happen.

970
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel very good right now. If you're

971
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: looking at a graph, it's like ninety five percent. The

972
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: season's over. It's the little chance because the Phillies and

973
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: Braves suck. They still stink. They're not good teams. They're

974
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: fine if we weren't in the NL East season dead.

975
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is that we're in

976
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: this division where no one wants to win it. Right now,

977
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: It's okay. It took us playing our worst baseball in

978
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: the Phillies being the hottest team in baseball to lose

979
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: first place.

980
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: And every game was still competitive.

981
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: They were close, and that's I think what also made

982
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: it really frustrating. I think this is like a thing

983
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: for Mets fans too. It's the first time in a

984
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: really long time we've kind of had a target on

985
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: our backs that we were the team that was supposed

986
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: to be doing stuff, and then we choked it again.

987
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: We like being the underdogs, so when we're on top

988
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: and we fall, it's a much bigger fall than when

989
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: you're an underdog who underperforms. Being the team that's in

990
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: first and not really capitalizing sucks as a fan base.

991
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: But if you're that second place team that just kind

992
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: of sits in the second place and can't get the

993
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: first all year, you go damn close. A few things

994
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: here or there, a big part of this too that

995
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: we haven't really mentioned when we talked about Fransical Lindoor

996
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: being out, but Jacob de Grom not playing is it's

997
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: a really really big deal, Like the two best players

998
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: in this team are not there, and now the question

999
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: is going to become whether you even get Jacob de

1000
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: grond back or not, because if he pitches zero winnings

1001
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, I don't think we have

1002
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: any chance to make the playoffs if he comes back

1003
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: and gives a strong month, like that's how we could

1004
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: do it. But I feel like we're just weeks away

1005
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: from him just being shut down. Yeah, I feel like

1006
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of a lot of hope

1007
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: right now over there. And I kind of don't blame

1008
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: the Mets. They shut down to Grom's He's the best

1009
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: arm in baseball for a reason. If this season continues

1010
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: the way it has, this next stretch is gonna be crazy.

1011
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: The Mets are out of it. The Grom doesn't pitch,

1012
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: there's no chance.

1013
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: There's a chance the Mets are completely out of it

1014
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: very soon. And then that's the case, there's just no

1015
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: reason for it. Was waste of everyone's time.

1016
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: Now you guys have all heard our pulse on what's

1017
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: going on with the New York Mets. We wanted to

1018
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: hear a little bit from you guys, so we put

1019
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: out tweet on the Mets Up Twitter tweet us questions, comments, concerns,

1020
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: anything you got. We'll be reading the replies on the

1021
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: next episode of the podcast. So that's what we're doing today.

1022
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna go through what some people are saying. We

1023
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: want to get a little bit of a pulse of

1024
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: what the fans are thinking, what they're saying. Let's see

1025
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: what they got. So first up, we do have a

1026
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: very very loyal listener, Nick Kowal. I think it is

1027
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: he's always replying to stuff. Big shot to you, Nick,

1028
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: is there a way that you can see this team

1029
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: turning around with thor be able to give this team

1030
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: some juice? Also, Pete has been struggling big time since

1031
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: he shaved the goatee, which you talked about a little

1032
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: bit earlier.

1033
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: Not sure if I read knicks comment.

1034
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not sure how well that statement holds up,

1035
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: but it seems significant. How does this team clutch up?

1036
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know how this team clutches up.

1037
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: I really, we're trying to figure it out and it's

1038
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: really tough for coming back will help. Will he be

1039
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: the guy to give some juice? I don't know. He's

1040
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: a guy who plays with a little chip on his shoulder,

1041
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: and it feels like the Mets are lacking that chip

1042
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: on their shoulder right now outside of Stroman.

1043
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: Maybe is he even gonna come back though, like very

1044
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: similar to the grand discussion, Like I haven't heard anything

1045
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: about Nosindergard in the last few weeks. I guess he's

1046
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: not pitching for sure. I think he's just throwing. But

1047
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: we're getting to that point now in August where it's

1048
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: like push comes to shove, something has to happen or

1049
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: just doesn't have to happen. Chris Sale has been in

1050
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: rehab games for three weeks already and he's still not

1051
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: back with the Red Sox. Takes a lot of time

1052
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: to build up, especially a guy who throws as hard

1053
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: as Hinderguard and someone who is as towns is Nohsindergark.

1054
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: He's not gonna come back if he's less than himself.

1055
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: It won't even help the team very much. So I

1056
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: just really don't know, all right.

1057
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: This one comes from at Big Blake season jousts for GM,

1058
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: which is also a guy who's been always interacting with

1059
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: her stuff, so shout out to him. Do you think

1060
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: the Mets will slash should resign Javier Bias?

1061
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: That is a question. That is a question. I think

1062
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: for the right price, Like I would not give Javier

1063
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: Bias anything close to like twenty million dollars a year.

1064
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: I would give Javey like something similar to what Marcus

1065
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: Emion got this year, like one for fifteen. You're not

1066
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: playing shortstops. If you can hit, you could hit, We'll

1067
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: do something bigger. But to give Javier Byas more than

1068
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: like two for thirty or like three for forty two,

1069
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: I think would be complete malpractice.

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00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's gonna also very much depend

1071
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: on how JD. Davis and Jeff McNeil end the season,

1072
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: because those guys are obviously dirt cheap, even though they

1073
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: should have arbitration coming up, I believe, but they're still

1074
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna be extremely cheap, So there's really not a need

1075
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: to pay Javier Bias, who like is in reality not

1076
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: that much better than those guys, even though we know

1077
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: that his ceiling is way higher. It's just that money

1078
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: could be spent elsewhere. So right now I'm on the

1079
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: boat of no. I don't think that we will or

1080
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: should should. But again, if he wants to play for free,

1081
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm interested.

1082
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, and an extend the qualifying offer and someone

1083
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: else signs him, you get the first round pick. I

1084
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: think that's a must. And signing him for just the

1085
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: one year eighteen million isn't that bad. You're not really

1086
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: on the hook for anything. I just don't really know

1087
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: how good Javier Buys truly can be. Like, if he's

1088
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: just a guy who's gonna hit thirty homers, play pretty

1089
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: good defensive places, not shortstop, and strike out two hundred

1090
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: and fifty times, was that three to three win player? Like,

1091
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: that's good. But we're not get back into the Brins

1092
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: truck for hobby Buys. We're not locking up hobby Bias

1093
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: for ten years now. If you think if that's something

1094
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: that should happen, you'll probably just take a very much

1095
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: closer look at Javier Buys is real talent rather than

1096
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: how he's perceived.

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00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: I feel like in the media, Yeah, no, definitely, I'm

1098
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: not in on that trade now. I think this is

1099
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: a good one. This will also be the last one

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00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: to read out here because James kind of set up

1101
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: the episode around what a lot of you guys were

1102
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: talking about here, but this is one that we didn't touch.

1103
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: You think any notable prospects will make their debut this season?

1104
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: And I had a hot take to you on text

1105
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: and I said, if Javier Buyas out for an extended

1106
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: period of time, Lindor, who knows when he plays, fuck it.

1107
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: Let's play Ronnie Risio shortstop. See what he's got. And

1108
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: I know you hate it. I know you hate it,

1109
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: and that's why it's a hot take, But God, I'd

1110
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: rather see him play terribly than will Fredo Tovar. Who

1111
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: are the Met's gonna play at short stop?

1112
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: Jonathan vr Luis Carpio and probably will freight the Tovar.

1113
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: It's bad. I know that's bad, but I don't care

1114
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: about screwing up before the Tivar's week. Like Ronnie Mauricio

1115
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: has just got to get hot in Brooklyn. He's not

1116
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: even a league league average hit right now with the

1117
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Cyclones. He's showing signs of his Mets potential and

1118
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: he's He's a recurring guest on the pod now Friends

1119
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: of the Program, but to bring up Ronnie Mauricio, the

1120
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty year old to play shorts out for

1121
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: the Mets right now is an absolutely ball's crazy take.

1122
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: All right, the guys, the guys who could debute for

1123
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: the Mets this year, As crazy as it sounds, I

1124
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: think that there might be a Brett Baby sighting in

1125
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Queens in September.

1126
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that. I was gonna say I

1127
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: think Baby and Viento's could possibly.

1128
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: Have Baby, probably more so just because his approach is

1129
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: better than Viento's. I think we're also probably gonna see

1130
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: the guy Jose Budo, who I've talked about here and

1131
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: there in the show. He's been ripping through double A.

1132
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: I think he had six shot of the things with

1133
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: nine or ten strikeouts today on Sunday. He's the guy

1134
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: who'll see soon. You'll probably all see Josh Walker, who

1135
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: just got the bump from Syracuse a few weeks ago.

1136
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: But you're not going to see Rynian Marisio for sisqualvers.

1137
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: I think that's what a lot of the Mets fans

1138
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: that are mentioned were pining for. I just I can't

1139
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: see it happening.

1140
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I would love to see it happen. I would love to,

1141
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: I would not.

1142
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: The Mets have called up some guys too quickly in

1143
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: the past. Last Thing's Millage comes to mind, and I

1144
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: don't really want to screw up anybody's development here. Let

1145
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: these guys stay in their role, keep everything nice and chill,

1146
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: and just keep moving forward.

1147
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's gonna be interesting to see

1148
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: what happens here going forward with this New York Mets team,

1149
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: because roster is not looking good. Guys aren't playing. And

1150
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: as much as you know Mets fans, you might like

1151
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Michael Confordo, you might like Dom Smith. If we can

1152
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: find someone to play better, they're taking those spots. It's

1153
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: just that's what it has to be now. These guys

1154
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: have to re earn their playing time. In my eyes,

1155
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: nobody besides Pete Lindor McNeil, Nemo. I forgot Nemo too.

1156
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: Of course. Those four guys I think probably have their

1157
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: positions pretty well there. McNeil's a little bit on the outskirts,

1158
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: but only because of the injury stuff, So that's it's weird.

1159
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 1: But those guys, they're here. The rest of the team,

1160
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: it's up in the air. You got to prove yourself,

1161
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: and these these next two months, if you don't play well,

1162
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: we gotta start thinking about who's gonna be a replacement.

1163
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: And we just got to be more willing to sign

1164
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: proven come out of these infre agencies, acquire more bats

1165
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: who we can count on from more things like I'm

1166
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: gonna go back to Tom Smith. I don't pick it

1167
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: on him a lot, and he has been hot since

1168
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: the second half started. But you can't just be a

1169
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: league average bat while playing the worst defense in baseball

1170
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: your position. It can't. It can't happen. That's something that

1171
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: other players would be dreams for doing. And for some reason,

1172
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: Dom Smith is still champion. I still like Dom Smith

1173
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: a lie. He's clearly a big member of this team.

1174
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: He's developed, he's a.

1175
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: Home he's homegrown.

1176
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a homegrown guy. I've lost that word for

1177
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: a second halfway through. It's slow day, But just he

1178
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: can't just be like we great, We're gonna deal with

1179
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: Dom Smith for the be all and end all. Whatever

1180
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: happens happens. If you want a win World Series, you

1181
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: need more players. You gotta be like the Dodgers. You

1182
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: gotta just sign Aj Pollock. You have to be okay

1183
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: with Gavin Locke going back to the bench and like

1184
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 2: upgrading because you are here to win a world series.

1185
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: I just can't watch these average players be championed as

1186
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: if they're like superstars.

1187
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah no, it's it's tough to see as a Mets fans.

1188
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: Super frustrating, frustrating week, frustrating series. It is not great

1189
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: in New York mets Land. We got a few things

1190
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: to mention here before we do wrap up the episode

1191
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: of the podcast. Big shout to who was it that

1192
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: saw the sticker? You got the name I know.

1193
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: That Robert Russo five on Instagram. It was a month ago,

1194
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: July eleventh, but he found one of our stickers in

1195
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: the city Field. So good luck to Robert. Good look

1196
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: to shout out anyone out there who finds one of

1197
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: our stickers in city Field. And we've been putting them

1198
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: up a lot, and allegedly, allegedly allegedly a lot. I've

1199
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: met stop stickers around city Field and allegedly they remain up.

1200
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: They've been there for a little while now. So if

1201
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: you guys find any of our possible stickers, send us

1202
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: DM Twitter, Instagram. We'll shout you out in the pod.

1203
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll give you a shout out, So shout out

1204
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: to him. Also shout out to our boy Randy, who

1205
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: works for the Brooklyn Cyclones. He's a big Met fan

1206
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: and he was we were talking with him when we

1207
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: were doing the Mauricio and Alvarez and Jalen Palmer interviews.

1208
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: Really nice guy, so shout out to him. He's our boy.

1209
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, super nice guy. Love Randy.

1210
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and then also shout out to Jen may B.

1211
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Now it's not really for her, it's more for her

1212
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: seven year old son, who created an MLB quiz for

1213
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: us to take on the pod. It's only two questions,

1214
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: so let's just go ahead and do it for him.

1215
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to you. You took the time to make

1216
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: something for us. Let's do it. Question one, James, he

1217
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: plays in the infield in the National League, has played

1218
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: for three different teams. He's got Manny Machado, Albert pool Holes,

1219
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman, Jose Breiu.

1220
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: Hmmmm, it's a tough one.

1221
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one.

1222
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: Wow. You see Albert pool Holes plays in the infield

1223
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: for National League teams, right, Yeah, Freddie Freeman does too.

1224
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: Jose Braves americanlying. So we can knock him out. And

1225
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: then we have Manny Machada, who was also played in

1226
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: field for a national league team. But truthfully, there's two

1227
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: answers too. I know that's his question.

1228
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Albert Pools and Manny Machado.

1229
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: So which one you click in? I'll click the other one.

1230
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: I feel like he's probably gonna be Machado. If I

1231
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: had to get pool Holes, we'll say, all right, the

1232
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: answer is you have to create an account. That's unfortunate.

1233
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, sorry, Bud. All right, moving on

1234
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: to question number two. This player has played for the

1235
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks and Dodgers. We got Nelson Cruz Zach Rex, Bryce Harper,

1236
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: and the answer who You've been talking a lot about

1237
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: this episode, Ding Ding ding, Aj Pollock.

1238
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: That was Saren Zippous. Oh my god. What are the

1239
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: chances that this quiz was sent to us like three

1240
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: weeks ago? But we're just busy with the trade deadline

1241
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: and we promised this loyal listener that we give him

1242
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: a shout and he closes out with Aj Pollock. The

1243
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: main themes of the show, the Aj Pollock episode of

1244
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: the Mets Up Podcast.

1245
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect way to wrap it up

1246
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: there and everything came full circle to quiz at the end.

1247
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: AJ Pollock, who was also possibly in New York Mets

1248
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: free agent candidate last year. Regardless, let's just say it

1249
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: was bad negative. Let's put this behind us. Let's hope

1250
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: that we played the Washington Nationals. We didn't even preview it,

1251
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: but honestly.

1252
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: I'll preview it right now. We've got Carrasco, Stroman and

1253
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: Rich Hill against Palois Biino, Joe Ross and Eric Fetti.

1254
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: Palois Biino and Joe Ross gave us fits the last

1255
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: time we played this team, which is just an absolutely

1256
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: ridiculous statement to say. And Eric Fetti, as we've known

1257
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: for years, is dreadful at pitching. So let's please score

1258
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: some runs please against the Nationals starting off his homestand

1259
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: that just has the potential to completely rip my heart.

1260
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: That more soda than it is already.

1261
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: You know, if we can't score against those guys, it's

1262
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: it's it's like, I think this is just gonna be

1263
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: the title of the podcast on YouTube until it's fixed.

1264
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: The Mets are in big trouble. The Mets are in

1265
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: really big trouble. The Mets are in really really big trouble.

1266
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna see in the next episode of

1267
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: the Mets Struggle. It's just if you can't hit those guys,

1268
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: you can't play major League Baseball. You don't deserve to

1269
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: be on a roster.

1270
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: This often, I think is gonna help this team because

1271
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: we just need like a mental break right now. But

1272
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: if they go out on Tuesday night and got shut

1273
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: down by Palaispino, I'm gonna have no where it's left be.

1274
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: It would be miserable. But I'm gonna try and keep

1275
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: it positive here. Let's try and win the series from

1276
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Speaker 1: the Nationals. Let's do it. Win it.

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Speaker 2: Chip Away seasons not over yet.

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Speaker 1: You gotta believe we know we can do it. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that ped Alonso stuff. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, but just fucking wins. Wake the fuck

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Speaker 1: up and win.

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Speaker 2: Someone's gotta break a bad throw a chair. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: something crazy has to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's gotta get fired up there because we are

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Speaker 1: dead and if we continue to have this energy and

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Speaker 1: play like this, all the season's real dead. So if

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Speaker 1: the Mets want to play in October, it's time to

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Speaker 1: step up. If they don't, we'll see you next year

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Speaker 1: in March. But I hope that's not the case.

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Speaker 2: First NFL Sunday five weeks away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's bad. When we start bringing up football

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Speaker 1: when it's it's coming up here. It's almost a Washington

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Speaker 1: football team season for me.

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Speaker 2: Broke out the Ohio State had for the pun oh

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Speaker 2: h ioy.

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Speaker 1: Hey alright, So that's it guys, episod number thirty nine

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. Make sure you follow James

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Speaker 1: on Twitter Jeter had no range major raftneck mark. Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter and Instagram at Mets up YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: if you want to watch video content Mets Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Next episode, we're going to be dropping one of the

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Speaker 1: first interviews. It's gonna be with Jalen Palmer, so keep

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Speaker 1: an eye out for that, as well as the Nationals

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Speaker 1: recap from what happens there. So we're gonna wrap it

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Speaker 1: up for today's episode. Guys, Thank you much so much

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Speaker 1: for listening, watching whatever you're doing, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: on episode number forty of the Mets Up Podcast. Peace out.

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Speaker 2: See you guys next time.