1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: The single best idea and under crisis and with market. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: It's an extraordinary day for the show. Not even mentioned here, 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: private credit is really starting to percolate. If there was 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: not a war, the top shelf idea for Global Wall 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: Street right now would be the rolling debacle that we 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: see in private credit. We had wonderful help on this today, 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: including from Charles Canter, Newburger Berman. What an honor to 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: have Edward Morse in with us today. He is the 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: dean of oil analysis. As he said in the interview, 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: he read the original manuscript of Daniel Jurgen's The Prize, 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: which was the required read a lifetime ago. I read 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: it cover to cover. Edward Morse at heartree properties. First 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: of all, on the moment at hand. 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: Look at what's happening. They're putting maybe four million barrels 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: a day into the market for a limited number of days, 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: and the world is already seeing two things happening. One 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: is that the upwards of sixteen eighteen million barrels a 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: day that was coming through the Strait of Hormuz is 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: now down to ten, so we're not replacing. And the 21 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: longer the time waits the less important that little drop 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: in the bucket made. 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: Edward Morris of Heartreet Partners. We continued, of course, with 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: the incredibly important question is mentioned by the Iotola today. 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: The closure of the Straits of Hormuz. 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: By permanent I meant something going forward. Where we already 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: know that the Iranians have restricted lanes of the Gulf 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: were transit. They're allowing a number of sanctioned vessels to 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: go through. They've increased their own exports. But given the 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: number of weapons they have on the coast, given the 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: nature of those weapons to intrude and interrupt transit through 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: the strait, this is a long term threat. 33 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: Edward Morris of Heartree Partners. What an honor to have 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: him in today. I should mention Geita Gopineth with us 35 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: too from Harvard University, talking to her about foreign exchange 36 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: and the idea of this resilient and ever stronger dollar. 37 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: Even during the show we got back to one hundred 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: dollars a barrel on Brent crude. There's every once in 39 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: a while where let's slips is the professionalism of the 40 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: pros that we talked to, They try to bring it 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: down into sensible terms, less math, clearer language, away from 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: all the jargon. Audrey Child Friedman, our expert on foreign exchange, 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: couldn't help herself today the relationships of the currencies of 44 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Norway and Sweden. Audrey Child Friedman. 45 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: I see where you come from, Tom, and if you 46 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: still worried about the current context, And what I'm thinking 47 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: is that, okay, fine, don't don't think about it in 48 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: dollar knocki terms. Think about it in euronocky perish or 49 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: knocki stocky bullish terms, because the avenue there right now 50 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: is a lot clearer. The problem with dollar stocky going 51 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: lower is that if you are worried that, you know, 52 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: the risk environment gets a lot worse from here, and 53 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: we see a sharp equity market sell off, then dollar 54 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: stocky will go higher. So there's potential pain trade here, 55 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: whereas euronocky downside or knocky stocky upside. I kind of 56 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: feel it's clearer right now. 57 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: That was classic. She's a Lumberg intelligence Audrey Child Freedman 58 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: and podcasts at Apple, at Spotify and YouTube podcast a 59 00:03:51,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: single best idea