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Speaker 1: Write numbers three, Jet Spielberg, I'm one all right, nast,

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Speaker 1: Hey, sure you get enough dep like twelve yard, fourteen yards,

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Speaker 1: break on everything. This is Inside Football with former Colts

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Speaker 1: the great Rick vent Turrey. I'm Matt Taylor. NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: weekend has come and gone, and eight picks later, over

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Speaker 1: the course of seven rounds, the Colts got better heading

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Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty five season. This is the post

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Speaker 1: draft edition of Inside Football with Rick vent Tury. Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor here again inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio,

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Speaker 1: and today we are recapping the Colts draft haul and

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Speaker 1: upcoming fall and joining me now, of course, Rick vin Turrey,

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Speaker 1: in his nearly thirty years of NFL coaching background thirty

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Speaker 1: plus years almost forty, I think it's over forty years

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Speaker 1: of covering the NFL Draft, is it not.

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Speaker 2: Rick forty three? Forty three? I don't even like to

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Speaker 2: let that out.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry. I let the cat out of

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Speaker 2: This was forty three. Yeah, for sure. No, I'm proud

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So we got a lot to talk about. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you're rested up after tracking all the picks for

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Speaker 1: three straight days, but let's talk about everything in totality.

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Speaker 1: With eight picks, bringing in four players from the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: you had two from the Big twelve, one from the

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Speaker 1: sec Riley Leonard coming from Notre Dame. Colts picked off

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Speaker 1: needs on both sides of the ball with Penn State

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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren to fill one of the biggest needs on

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's Hunter Wooler as a versatile defensive weapon, if you will.

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Speaker 1: What kinds of feelings did you have on Sunday morning

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, just like I felt last week, I

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Speaker 2: felt really good about the offseason with the Colts. I

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Speaker 2: felt really good about this draft, and I felt good

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Speaker 2: for different reasons. This is a little bit different draft.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't the prototypical way that we've drafted in the park.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. There are some qualities. You know,

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Speaker 2: most of these guys have good RADS scores. But you

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Speaker 2: know what I like, Here's what I like the most,

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Speaker 2: Matt number one. I think, first of all, we drafted ballers.

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Speaker 2: We drafted guys that play the game rather than Olympians

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Speaker 2: who have really good times. I thought. I also thought

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Speaker 2: it was controversially on round three, you know, but they

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Speaker 2: believe in Wally. I endorsed that they believe in Wally.

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Speaker 2: And what's the difference if you get the guy you

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Speaker 2: know when he was drafted. You know, they drafted guys

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Speaker 2: And I like that. And it's not just high reps,

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Speaker 2: That's why it's very you know, when people go out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so many guys wearing number forty four, I mean,

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Speaker 2: He's an alpha personality. You can see it out on

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Speaker 2: He goes to the ball. He's competitive, he can make

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Speaker 1: Well, last year one hundred and four catches. That was

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Speaker 1: the highest tight end total in Penn State history. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it also set a Penn State record for catches in

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Speaker 1: last year by a Colts tight end was fourteen. That

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, whatever he can get, he will get.

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Speaker 1: He's got first round grade written all over him. Rick,

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Speaker 1: So what stands out the most about his playing style? And,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know when I made that statement before, I

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Speaker 2: run flat over you. He is a power rusher. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, the twelve and a half sacks that's production.

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Speaker 2: surprise you. He's got really good inline quickness. You know,

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Speaker 2: so you know he's got explosiveness. Now you know what

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Speaker 2: I think you can play him on first down, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he has that kind of tool. But again

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Speaker 2: again I think that I think you made the good point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he could easily have been a first round

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Speaker 1: How needed was that pick forecasting maybe by Chris bellor

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Speaker 2: You know what you would have to ask Chris that

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Speaker 2: I just got a feeling that they fell in love

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Speaker 2: the more you watch him, the more he just grows

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Speaker 2: just the opposite type of rusher to lat to. That's

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Speaker 2: that's what I like. I like versatility, you know, I

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Speaker 2: loss because he was a guy that even without big numbers,

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Speaker 2: I think we'll we'll get that out of JT.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go third round, stay on defense with

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Speaker 1: the draft pick of Justin Wally at of Minnesota, second

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Speaker 1: the cornerback criteria. The Colts usually like those guys to

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Speaker 1: So how surprised were you with this pick considering the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just one thing I forgot to mention on JTNL.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to Wally JT. I'll tell you for a

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Speaker 2: positive comparison. He reminds me of Carlo Offics. Okay, Carl

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Speaker 2: And you've seen Carl Office really come into his own

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Speaker 2: I looked at Wally. It might be a little rich

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Speaker 2: So what's the difference. I mean, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: I give Chris credit on this. He is really convicted.

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Speaker 2: To me, length is one thing, but to me the

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Speaker 2: What can I not speed? Speed? Man speed? And this

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Speaker 2: you can see the difference now in an ARUMO because

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Speaker 2: But you know, again that's coachable. But speed, toughness, feistiness

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Speaker 2: A lot. If it was a little rich who cares

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Speaker 1: If he pans out, no one's gonna ask what round

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Speaker 2: As you come in and produce sny that's right.

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Speaker 1: On Day three, the Colts ended up drafting five players

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Speaker 1: pick up offensive tackle Jalen Travis from Iowa State. This

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Speaker 1: Played thirty four games between three years at Princeton and

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Speaker 2: Think that's a fair you know, that's kind of a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, aau ball you keep talking, I'll look it up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they played aau ball together. So he's a basketball player.

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Speaker 2: played AAU ball at this guy, so you know there's

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00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: there's some athleticism there. I think the biggest thing you're

430
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: going to have to do always with a guy like this,

431
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: he's a little bit of a wastepender. You know, you're

432
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 2: going to have to really work on him getting his

433
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 2: knee bend, getting that bend in that lower body, and

434
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, just working on that foot fire, that quickness.

435
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: There's straight line explosiveness, no doubt about that. But you know,

436
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: really you want also you when he get that good

437
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: body control and foot fire with a real tall guy,

438
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: so that he can pick up stunts and pick up

439
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: that real quickness on the edge because once you get

440
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: out on that island, now you know you're playing the

441
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: best of the best here in the NFL. But again,

442
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean a guy with you know, and again a

443
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: ton of snaps, you know, the Princeton background, and then

444
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: he really has good protection numbers. Like I talked about

445
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: Wally being a low percentage guy to throw on. You know,

446
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: this kid didn't give up many sacks at all, even

447
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: at Iowa State, and then he went down to the

448
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: senior ball and did a really good job down there.

449
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: So you know, let's let's hope we can max him

450
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: out all.

451
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: Right, Moving right down the line. Here. Round number five,

452
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: the Colts pick up running back DJ Giddons from Kansas State,

453
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought the Colts might go

454
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: running back in Day three, which is indeed what they do.

455
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Thirty nine games, rush for over three thousand career yards.

456
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: He's over twelve hundred yards in each of the past

457
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: two seasons. Great Beginnings, or I should say humble Beginnings,

458
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: started his career as a preferred walk on, then turns

459
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: himself into a complete three down back at fifty eight

460
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: catches out of the backfield, and he's just a rare

461
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Day three running back that has a resume as stacked

462
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: as his. I don't know how you feel, Rick, but

463
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: I think this is a legitimate option if you will,

464
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: to back up Jonathan Taylor next season. Despite the Colts

465
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: bringing in Khalil Herbert in free agency.

466
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt about it. If to me,

467
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: he's a bit of a steal, but it's not a

468
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: total surprise because if you remember what we talked about

469
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: last Wednesday, I said the two best positions on the

470
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: draft were offensive line, of which eight guys, you know,

471
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: one quarter of the first round were offensive linemen. Yeah,

472
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: and then I said one to a was running back,

473
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: and I knew you were going to be able to

474
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: get a guy in those middle rounds and you know,

475
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: getting him in the fifth round. He is really a

476
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: good football player. I mean he has he's a he

477
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: can pound it, he will pound it. He's a great kid.

478
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: He's you know, it's everything with him is an upward trajectory.

479
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: As you said, coming in as a walk on. All

480
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: he's done is got better and better and better. I

481
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: mean thirteen hundred plus you know last year, two years

482
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: over a thousand. I've seen him make cuts. I've seen

483
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: him with good vision and you know, and then I think,

484
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: what's a little misleading. I don't know if you always

485
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: see it, but it's there. You know, he's a four

486
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: to four to three guy, thirty nine and a half vertical,

487
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: four to three to three short shuttle, which tells he's

488
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: really quick in line. But with that four four three speed,

489
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: he can take it to the house. So you know,

490
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: I think we got a guy along with Herbert Now

491
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: that really have improved that running back room. I think

492
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: this is a kid that's just going to grow and grow.

493
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: He obviously is going to have to you know, like

494
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: all those young kids going to have to learn how

495
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: to pass protech better, you know, but that will come.

496
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: I think with his willingness and the toughness that he has,

497
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: I think that's something that's acquireable. So I really like him.

498
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: I think he can slash and take it to the house.

499
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: So again, to get that guy in the fifth round,

500
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: really kudos.

501
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: To us, no doubt. I think that's the steal of

502
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: the draft as it relates to the Colts for the

503
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: positional value and the production that they're getting based on

504
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: where they picked him up. So yeah, keep an eye

505
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: out for him. So all right, agree on that, no question.

506
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: Sixth round we go. The Colts take a chance on

507
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard. The QB at a Notre Dame for the

508
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: Irish started thirty seven games between Duke and Notre Dame,

509
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: and Guy to Notre Dame to the National Championship Game.

510
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: A dual threat, Guy ran for over nine hundred yards

511
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: last year, set the Irish single season record for rushing

512
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns by a quarterback with a wopping seventeen of them.

513
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: But he's not known for arm strength, didn't have to

514
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: carry the team in the passing game last year, averaged

515
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: only one hundred and seventy eight passing yards per game

516
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. But he did show up in

517
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: big moments in big games, like he did against Ohio

518
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: State and that national title game. He threw for two

519
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: fifty five in that game. But we felt rick confident

520
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that the Colts would draft a quarterback. But what do

521
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: you make of Leonard being the guy their selection with

522
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: someone that has a lot of experience, a lot of character, leadership,

523
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: and just high in tangibles.

524
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said to you, you know after ward,

525
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: you know, literally after war, the quarterback situation was gonna

526
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: be you know, who do you like the best? What

527
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: color of Chevy do you really like? And that I

528
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: knew they liked Leonard from the beginning. I think his

529
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: workout tapped it off. You know, there's no doubt about that.

530
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: And here here's the thing, here's what you see in Leonard. Okay,

531
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: you know, if if you had to define, if you

532
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: had to google, competitiveness, right next to it should be Leonard.

533
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: I mean, if you watch him, you watched the first

534
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: drive against Ohio State in that National championship when Notre

535
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Dame is really overmatched, totally overmatched, really in the game,

536
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: which the game proved. You just watch him play in

537
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: that first drive. Yea diving for first down athlete, just

538
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, you know, charismatic guy. You know, you know

539
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: Coach k wanted him to play basketball at Duke. You know,

540
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: he really did. He wanted him to play basketball. He's

541
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: that kind of athlete, you know out of Alabama there,

542
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: he's a terrific athlete. You know, nine hundred what was

543
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: a nine and eighty two yards rushing and seventeen touchdown

544
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: runs I mean for Notre Dames. So you're getting that

545
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: dual thread guy. You know, it's kind of interesting on

546
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: the passing game. And this is just me, but I

547
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: felt like that he was a better passer and technician

548
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: coming out of Duke. To tell you the truth, I

549
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: thought two years ago, you know, if you look at

550
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: him throwing the ball, it was a much much higher

551
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: draft pick. You know, at Notre Dame, he played with

552
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 2: great competitiveness, but I didn't think he played, you know,

553
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: with the technique and the consistency throwing the football. What

554
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: happened then, you know, and I you know, that's hard

555
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: to that's hard to say because it was it wasn't

556
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: like it was too big for him because he competed

557
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: his tail off. I mean, his run numbers are unbelievable

558
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: and he got them all the way to the you

559
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: know finals, So it's not that I you know, maybe

560
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: the coaching was a little different, maybe the emphasize the

561
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: offensive structure. I don't know, but that that's just me

562
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: and that maybe that's just an illusion. But I felt

563
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: like when it came to the passing game, he was

564
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: better coming out of you know, more just more technique,

565
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: refined and accurate coming out of Duke. When they asked me,

566
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I think you could go one

567
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: of two ways on this guy. And it's going to

568
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: sound like I probably I said, on one case, you

569
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: have Ellnger or you have Montana. I mean it's because

570
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, they said all the same things about Joe

571
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: arm wasn't good enough. No, certainly, I know, I know

572
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm being that's hyperbolic, and I don't in no way

573
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: do I want to say we just drafted Joe Montana.

574
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: But you know, with the quarterback position, it's a funny physician.

575
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: You know, you don't know until you really really play,

576
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: So you know, right now, I think that's a perfect

577
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: number three, four.

578
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: All right, Then to close it out, let's go round

579
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: six and seven. The Colts draft defensive tackle Tim Smith

580
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: from Alabama yep, and also safety Hunter Wohler from Wisconsin,

581
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: who the Colts plan to move to linebacker here in

582
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. But Smith was a five year player in

583
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: the SEC, sixty four games thirty two starts, and then

584
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Woller twenty five games for the Badgers, led the team

585
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: in tackles in each of the last two seasons. Really

586
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: physical player, great tackler, certainly. So what kind of impact

587
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: do you see out of the last two defense of

588
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: draft picks as rookies.

589
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think they replace guys and they may feel needs.

590
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Smith, you know, you start thirty two games

591
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: for Alabama. I mean you've got to have something. And

592
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: I've I've watched the tape and I talked to Nick yesterday,

593
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: you know down there about him. You know what he

594
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: is is a tough run stopper. Okay, he is an

595
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: anchor in there. And the reason I think he has

596
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: a chance with us, that's the one thing that we

597
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: haven't really gotten and that is a huge, huge need,

598
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: is that when Buckner and Stu go out of the game,

599
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: you know, I said it last week. We can't stop

600
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: a those bleed on the running game. It's not about

601
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: the pass. We've got plenty of guys that can rush

602
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: the passer. We can move inside in the passing downs,

603
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: but where we're terrible is inside when those two guys

604
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: are out and you end up second in five all day.

605
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: You know, And from what my eyes tell me and

606
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: what Nick told me, is this kid can play the run. Now,

607
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: he's not a pass rusher. They think he can grow,

608
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: but you know, he again, he's been in a ton

609
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: of big games down there. And if he can just

610
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: come in and give us that swing run stopper on

611
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: first down, that would mean a lot.

612
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: No question about that. All right. So to wrap up here, Rick,

613
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: now that the draft is over, let's talk about what

614
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: you make of position battles. What do you think is

615
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: the plan at right guard? And what do you think

616
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: is the plan at linebacker? The rest of spring and

617
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: training campus, the Colts they kind of address that, you know,

618
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: drafting a safety then moving him to linebacker, but not

619
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: until the seventh round, so not a huge swing at

620
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: addressing that position here in the draft. So what do

621
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: you make a right guard in linebacker on defense.

622
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just just to regress one spot, Wohler to

623
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: me is the replacement for Stewart. Sure, he's a guy,

624
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, and he's he's got a little bit of

625
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: Carlyles in him. You know, he's a guy that really

626
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: is a safety that would be that foot speed would

627
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: be a problem. But again, when you want a guy

628
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: to improve by a position change, you either move him

629
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: in or you move him up. And this is a tough,

630
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: instinctive guy. Like I said, I see him as the

631
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: replacement for Stewart. In terms of those physicians you're talking about,

632
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, I expect, you know, the right guard to

633
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: be Gonzalves and uh, you know, if you know, if

634
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: something were to happen to Braiden, then he would have

635
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: to kick out and it'd be Tucker back in there.

636
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: But I expect, if you play a game tomorrow, you

637
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: got Braiden at right tackle and you got Gonzalves that

638
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: right guard. And I actually feel pretty good about that.

639
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: You know, Really the linebacker situation, you know, this is

640
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: this is a bet for Carlisles. I mean, really, what

641
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: you're saying is Carliles has got it and is going

642
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Speaker 2: to be ready, you know, and we'll have to see

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Speaker 2: on that. I mean, well, we'll have to see. I

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00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: was you know, I was hoping we'd be able to

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Speaker 2: fix that, but this was not This was not a

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00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: great year at linebackers. So you know, I certainly understand it.

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Speaker 2: Again the areas to me, I think we've you know,

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Speaker 2: we've packed the corner position with a ton of athletes

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Speaker 2: to compete. I still think safety depth is a little

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Speaker 2: questionable in you know, defensive line, you know, interior depth wise, somebody,

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Speaker 2: somebody's got to step off, whether it's Smith or not, because,

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Speaker 2: like you said, we didn't you know, we didn't take

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Speaker 2: hard swings at those Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Colts still have Shagua, Loubi, Cameron mcgroen comes back, Jayalen, Carlies,

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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, all candidates to to be in the mix.

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Speaker 1: But you know it's going to be different this year

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Speaker 1: with a new scheme in lou An Arumo probably not

658
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: playing with three linebackers on the field all that often,

659
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Speaker 1: but you have to play with two some and the

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Speaker 1: Cults are still looking for that replacement for EJ. Speed.

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Speaker 1: Also in the rearview me or now with the draft.

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Speaker 1: Just one of those things Rick. For the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, we've been talking about the draft at nauseum.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. But now that that's over, you know,

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Speaker 1: everything kind of comes back front and center that were

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Speaker 1: front and center before the draft, like the Colts competition,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. But

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00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: now that the draft is over and sort of the

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Speaker 1: main big periods of player acquisition, now that those are

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Speaker 1: over with free agency, the bulk of free agency that's

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00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: still ongoing, certainly, but the draft is done as well

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. What do you make of the Colts?

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Speaker 1: How do you view this roster and the chances for

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Speaker 1: a good season in twenty twenty five now that most

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Speaker 1: underlying the word, most of the player acquisition period is over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the way I look at it is

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Speaker 2: right now, I think this is a good roster. I

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: don't think it is necessarily a great roster, but I

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00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: think it's good. And I think it's a roster that

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have extreme te liabilities anywhere. I mean, I think

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00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: we've patched it up. I think we can put starters

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Speaker 2: out there, you know, in every position that you know

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Speaker 2: that are our representative. Uh, that can really go. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. The only the only reason I don't

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Speaker 2: rate it great. I still don't know if we have

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Speaker 2: enough game changers on both sides of the ball. You know,

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Speaker 2: that remains to be seen. Sometimes that can change. But

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Speaker 2: I think roster wise, this is a good enough team

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Speaker 2: to be a playoff team. I think where this team

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00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: goes though, and we talked about this last week is

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Speaker 2: really going to be driven by who and how well

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Speaker 2: the quarterback plays, Matt. I really think it'll come down

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Speaker 2: to that, uh. And we're not going to know that

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Speaker 2: till September, you know, till we start really playing the games.

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Speaker 2: You know, does the does the pressure on Richardson does

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: it you know, does it create a higher ceiling that

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Speaker 2: we're expecting from him? Or you know, Daniel Jones is

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00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold of twenty five? You know, either outcome would

699
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: be very very good. But I think when it's all

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Speaker 2: said and done, this team is good enough to be

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Speaker 2: a playoff team. But it's gonna be It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: and will and always will be quarterback driven. I think

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Speaker 2: I think there's four things that I'm going to be

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: looking at. Okay, There's four things that I'm going to

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00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: be looking at as I evaluate this team day by day.

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Speaker 2: Number one, the obvious quarterback play. Number two and I'm

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00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: excited about this, The Ana Rumo effect on the defense totally.

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Speaker 2: I think Number three that we haven't talked about we

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00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: did last week is consistent place kicking. You know, I'm

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00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: a little bit uncomfortable with that right now. And then

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Speaker 2: how far has Shane Steike can come now, not as

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Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator but as a head coach. Those are

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Speaker 2: the four things that I'm going to be looking at

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Speaker 2: other than the you know, the micro view day after

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Speaker 2: day after day. But though to me, those are the

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Speaker 2: four big things things that are going to be important

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Speaker 2: to where we end up.

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Speaker 1: Make total sense to me. Outstanding job as always. That's

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Speaker 1: Rick Venturrey on our post draft conversation on the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: Eight draft picks here in twenty twenty five and the

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Speaker 1: eight draft picks plus the undrafted free agents. The Colts

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Speaker 1: roster is in and around ninety players here in the springtime. Rick,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure you enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 1: the spring. I know we'll see you out here a

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00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: handful of times for Ota practices in late May. I

726
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: know you can't get away, you love it, but try

727
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: to enjoy this nice weather. I think we've kind of

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00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: turned the corner here in central Indiana. Be safe on

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Speaker 1: that motorcycle and your cruises around the cornfields of the

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Speaker 1: Hoosier State. And can't wait to see you again and

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Speaker 1: can't wait to talk ball soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely love you guys, love being around you. I

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Speaker 2: will get some motorcycling, in no doubt, I've already because

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Speaker 2: I mean we had a what was it eighty yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Oh crank, So I didn't set any land speed workers

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Speaker 2: because of the wind, but we were working on it.

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Speaker 2: But no, no, I really do look forward to OTAs

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Speaker 2: and of course Mini camp coming up, and hell, before

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00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: you know it, you know we'll be calling them.

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Speaker 1: We will be calling them. The schedule comes out in

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Speaker 1: May fourteenth, so stay up late for that one, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see about the who, the what and the whin

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Speaker 1: the where for the Colts in twenty twenty five. Rick

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Speaker 1: Van Turry, Right there, I'm Matt Taylor, and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for this post draft edition of Inside Football.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, everybody, and we'll talk to you soon

747
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Speaker 1: and stick it right here for the latest on the

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Speaker 1: Colts are in the right spot. The Colts Audio network

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