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Speaker 2: for a game that carries far more significance for the

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Speaker 2: at three and eleven, Bills at ten and four, and

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Speaker 2: in need of yet another AFC Conference victory. They can't

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Speaker 2: pay attention to the caliber of the opponent. They have

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Speaker 2: to be squarely focused on the important importance of getting

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Speaker 2: another conference win.

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Speaker 1: I've been pounding Brownie all morning about I've been watching

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Speaker 1: the I've watched the Browns last couple of games and

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Speaker 1: a close loss to the Titans twenty nine to thirty

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Speaker 1: or yeah, twenty nine thirty was or twenty nine thirty one,

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Speaker 1: something like that, and then this last week they got

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Speaker 1: trounced by the Bears. And whatever the record is for

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, they've earned it. The problem isn't Bills

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Speaker 1: fans know what I'm talking about. The Browns are sitting

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Speaker 1: here at three and eleven. I don't know how they

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Speaker 1: won three games, because there are times on the film

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Speaker 1: when when I'm watching the game and they look bad,

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Speaker 1: they look really bad, and I'm worried that the Bills

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Speaker 1: will see the same thing I'm seeing and like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll my helmet out there and We're gonna

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Speaker 1: win this game no matter what. That's a bad recipe.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Browns are struggling. Man oh man, that bad. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I still have some film to watch, which I will

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Speaker 2: do probably tonight and tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Offense, Miles Garrett's having a nice year. Defenses, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean Caleb Williams lit them up. I mean lit

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Speaker 1: him up. Their run defense, their special teams have struggled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned how they give up a lot of

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Speaker 1: So it could be a day for Ray Davis. I'm

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Speaker 1: I really makes you worry that the Bills show up

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Speaker 1: and have four flat tires, So I don't know, so.

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Speaker 3: You think it might be tough for them to get

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Speaker 3: up for this one.

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Speaker 1: I would Bills are vastly the better team.

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Speaker 2: Right, I Well, tell me what you think of this

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Speaker 2: because I'm of the belief that the Bills know what

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Speaker 2: the recipe has to be to try and still win

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Speaker 2: the division. Next Gen Stats pegs their chances at thirty

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Speaker 2: two percent, chiefly because they don't control their own destiny

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Speaker 2: there they need help.

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Speaker 3: To win the division.

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Speaker 2: But I think because the picture is pretty clear in

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Speaker 2: front of them with three games left, what they must

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Speaker 2: do to give themselves the best possible playoff seed, which

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Speaker 2: namely is keep winning, particularly against AFC opponents. Right now,

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Speaker 2: they do not have the tiebreaker on the Chargers, who

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Speaker 2: have the superior conference record. They got to keep winning

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Speaker 2: conference games if they want to try to catch them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to be cause they have the five seed.

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Speaker 1: They got to keep winning, Gotta keep winning, Gotta keep

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Speaker 1: winning because on the on the off chance, and and

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Speaker 1: let's face it, the team in the standings right now

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Speaker 3: You gotta stay ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta stay ahead of them. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, uses you don't have the head Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're very good. Uh, but they don't strike fear into

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Speaker 2: Right, I think people should remember that wild card playoff

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Speaker 2: game here last year was.

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Speaker 3: Pretty close till the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it didn't look like it at the end,

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Speaker 1: So the Bills are sitting here, you know, thinking, eh,

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Speaker 2: You want to you want to get the If you

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Speaker 2: which would be four seed, which looks like it's going

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Speaker 1: Game, right. It's yeah, I mean, you're gonna go on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would argue that the Chargers have the

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Speaker 3: They got some tough games here in the last three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Well the Charge. Yeah, the Chargers have got Dallas this week,

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Speaker 2: You better score points against that team, That's right.

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Speaker 1: And Houston and Denver after that. Yeah. So the Chargers

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Speaker 2: So the Bills, I'm saying, Bills keep winning and keep winning,

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Speaker 2: own business. But the Bills, to me, it's less about

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Speaker 1: I get all of that. Here's what happened, and we

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Speaker 1: so I ain say, man, it is hard to dredge

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Speaker 1: up the desire to go out and hurt for a

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Speaker 1: team you don't think can be you. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 3: A lot of them are young and inexperience.

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Speaker 1: And they've got some guys that They've got some guys

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Speaker 2: Let's get to Bill's practice Updates, which are presented by

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Speaker 2: Lee Coom your Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine, and

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Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermott provided an update. In addition to

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Speaker 2: kicker Matt Prater and defensive tackle Jordanhillips being out on

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Speaker 2: Sunday against the Browns, Head coach Sean McDermott also said

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Speaker 2: for the game due to a knee injury. Dalton Kincaid

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Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott essentially saying they are managing what is

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Speaker 2: a nagging knee injury that has been around since training

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Speaker 3: Practice every week the rest of the way.

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Speaker 2: They got to take the pounding off of the knee.

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Speaker 2: It's not uncommon the rest of the way. It's not uncommon.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, but it's not good. I mean this has

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Speaker 2: foremost wild game last night on Thursday Night Football, as

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, down thirty to fourteen with under eight minutes

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I almost went to bed.

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Speaker 2: Seattle played like the Bills have. Yeah, the past couple

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Speaker 1: He threw this play. Look at this. He throws it

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable finish to this game. So they score to tie

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Speaker 1: It was awesome, man. Congratulations to both those teams on

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Speaker 1: They lost the game for four fifty donald.

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Speaker 1: And it looked like Darnald as Well was going to

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Speaker 2: Special teams really killed the Rams, not only to give

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Speaker 5: Chentlemen thinks you're taking my call. I said a quick

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Speaker 5: he just doesn't want to go up to big play.

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Speaker 1: of this stuff, but they may not like their personnel

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Speaker 1: even at the even at the A level, and then

439
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Speaker 1: if you go to the B level and somebody gets

440
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Speaker 1: injured and stuff, they may hate it, and then they

441
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Speaker 1: got to take it all off the table. But yes,

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Speaker 1: all of that is in the game plan, but because

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Speaker 1: of their core beliefs and their roster construction, it's not

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Speaker 1: something they're going to depend on and have a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence in it, and it wouldn't be something they would do

446
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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the snaps of a game. So

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Speaker 1: I get your point. And when you're having a year

448
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Speaker 1: like the Bills are where your top three, your top

449
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Speaker 1: two pass rushers are off the table for ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: multiple games. Everybody wants to try something, and I get

451
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Speaker 1: it in my work, but there's only so much you

452
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Speaker 1: can do and it won't confuse the offensive line they'll

453
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Speaker 1: just set their protection and drop back and see who comes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was talking more about run defense.

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Speaker 2: I can only see the Bills turning to a fifty

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Speaker 2: front to counter some kind of heavy personnel grouping by

457
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Speaker 2: the opponent.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the only thing that would prompt that.

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Speaker 1: I believe.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's not to say the Bills wouldn't let alon

461
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Speaker 2: linebackers stand up on the edge of the line of

462
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Speaker 2: scrimmage as a fifth guy up on the line and

463
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Speaker 2: a two point to help set the edge, perhaps to

464
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Speaker 2: the wide side of the field. But I think short

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Speaker 2: of a team coming out in twenty three personnel, I

466
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Speaker 2: can't see them turning to that. To Steve's point, it's

467
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Speaker 2: not philosophically, you know, the base principles of what they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can do that. Like you said in situationals football.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we get back. Well, we've got

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Speaker 2: Cindy and Niagara Falls Tom on the west side. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to them and others holding at eight O three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty when we return here. On one Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Collida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio All

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Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: tasked with you on an obl fan Friday mailbag edition

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Speaker 2: and want to get right to the phones to answer

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Speaker 2: your questions. Do you have open lines for you though

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Speaker 2: at eight o three zero five fifty one eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty Any question on your mind

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Speaker 2: about the Bills, the league, the conference race, the playoff race.

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Speaker 2: Have at it to Cindy in Niagara Falls.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Cindy, Hi.

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Speaker 6: Steve, I Chris, Thanks for taking my call. Steve, you

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Speaker 6: know you being a past player, I just wonder because

486
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Speaker 6: I've noticed in the past, past playout the games that

487
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Speaker 6: when the Bills think they have an easy team, they're

488
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Speaker 6: not their best. And I just wondered, if you know,

489
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Speaker 6: I played sports my whole life, so did the same thing.

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Speaker 6: So just wondered if that's something that is maybe on

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Speaker 6: their minds. Thanks, I'll listen, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Thanks Tony. Yeah, we talked a little bit about

493
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Speaker 1: this at the top of the show. It's you reminded

494
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Speaker 1: me Dean Dawkins said this, And they pay these guys

495
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. They pay them. They pay them

496
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Speaker 1: because it hurts.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They get paid to hurt, and when they can take

499
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Speaker 1: a little respite from that, they're very quick to do it.

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Speaker 1: Every team is, every player is, and when you get

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys on a team that are kind

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Speaker 1: of thinking that they can do that in a week,

503
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: the whole team looks bad, right, and doesn't take that

504
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Speaker 1: many guys right. So, I think one of the things

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Speaker 1: that happened earlier in this year, particularly in the Dolphins game,

506
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Speaker 1: when they got lumped up by a bad Dolphins team,

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Speaker 1: it started up front. The big guys up front thought

508
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Speaker 1: and well, we're gonna we're gonna be okay. And you know,

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Speaker 1: they didn't play as well as they had played in

510
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Speaker 1: the path. They didn't move guys around. The run game

511
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Speaker 1: wasn't working. Uh, they weren't winning the line of scrimmage,

512
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Speaker 1: and because of that, the whole team looked horrible. It

513
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Speaker 1: could have been that, you know, Josh and the wide

514
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: receiver and all those tight ends were geeked up about

515
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Speaker 1: the game or whatever. But if you have a group

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Speaker 1: of guys who who take a deep breath and say, man,

517
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Speaker 1: this all right, let's just get through this, it shows

518
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Speaker 1: NFL teams are very susceptible. Not just the Bills. NFL

519
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: teams are very susceptible to that. That's why tough guys

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00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: are coveted in the league, because teams know guys who

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Speaker 1: play with discomfort, play when they're not one hundred percent

522
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Speaker 1: and want to play when they're not one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: or valuable because nobody's ever one hundred percent, right, So

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Speaker 1: the distillation process of getting into the NFL kind of

525
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: weeds guys like that out. But a lot of times

526
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Speaker 1: you'll see very gifted players who aren't because their gifts

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Speaker 1: get them through the process. And then when it does

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Speaker 1: get to the NFL and they are playing against guys

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Speaker 1: who are there equal physically, they shrink because of they

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Speaker 1: because they don't they've never had to play uncomfortable. It's

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Speaker 1: a real thing, and I think that's what leads as

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Speaker 1: much as anything, that's what leads teams to come out flat.

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Speaker 1: There are other reasons as well, but this is one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons teams come out flat is because, particularly

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Speaker 1: at this time of the season, when and think about

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Speaker 1: the lot, you think, man, the Bills have got a

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Speaker 1: teeny bit of a chance to win the division. The

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Speaker 1: other team has to collapse for them to win the division.

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Speaker 1: So it seems like even if they beat the Browns,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to get any reward for it. So

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Speaker 1: that's what you're up against. That's what you're up against.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to play in the sixteenth week of a long, hard,

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Speaker 1: physically brutal season, and that's what you're up against when

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get ready for a team you're supposed

545
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Speaker 1: to beat, your favorite to beat, you're better than, and

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Speaker 1: none of that's gonna matter when they kick it off.

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Speaker 1: That other team is going to show up, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't, you're gonna look bad. It's a constant battle

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Speaker 1: at this time of year for teams who are or

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Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, the Bills are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: For teams that are in the playoff hunt, they're there.

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Speaker 1: And it's easy to say, man, that's good enough. All

553
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Speaker 1: we don't have any control over the sea. If we

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Speaker 1: keep winning, we're still going to be seated within one

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Speaker 1: spot of where we're at right now, So let's just

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Speaker 1: get there and start the games that really matter. That's

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Speaker 1: a real problem for good teams.

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Speaker 2: An interesting take. I still maintain that there is a reward.

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Speaker 2: The reward is keeping pace in the AFC Wildcard Race

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Speaker 2: and perhaps overtaking somebody, namely the Chargers, who are in

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Speaker 2: the five hole right now and have a tough schedule

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Speaker 2: the rest of the way. To Tom on the west side,

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Speaker 2: what's up Tom?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I was thinking I don't think we need

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Speaker 7: to play the nickel this week because I don't believe

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Speaker 7: they got a lot of good receivers. They got Jerry

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Speaker 7: Judy after that, I really don't know it falls off.

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Speaker 7: But anyway, as far as Miles Garrett goes, I don't

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Speaker 7: want him getting the sack record on Josh Allen and

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Speaker 7: with his ability to move across the front line or

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Speaker 7: the defensive line and play multiple positions. Tell me what

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Speaker 7: you think I would counter it with starting out with

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Speaker 7: twelve personnel and if he motions over or shifts over

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Speaker 7: into the middle, you motion your tight end into the backfield.

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Speaker 7: And if you did that, would you which tight end

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Speaker 7: would you prefer back there? Or would you rather have

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Speaker 7: Anderson out there and maybe playing thirteen personnel?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean I believe the Bill need to stick with

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Speaker 7: the four to three because of Johnson. Is Johnson is

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Speaker 7: not even close or or limited. I would go with

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Speaker 7: the four to three because you gotta stop Judkins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying on that Tom To

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Speaker 2: back it up to the Miles Garrot conversation, I don't

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Speaker 2: think there is an ideal plan for that guy.

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Speaker 3: Because he's a freaking nature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's he's got a move that I've

588
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Speaker 2: never seen a pass rusher do before at the NFL level.

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Speaker 2: So we're all familiar with the euro step right that

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Speaker 2: basketball players use. They take this giant leap to the right,

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Speaker 2: go around a defender with their second step before going

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Speaker 2: up to the basket. He does that as a pass

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Speaker 2: rusher and jumps two gaps over before anybody has a

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Speaker 2: hand on him. And like he jumps, he jumps to

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Speaker 2: the side. It's like an eight foot wide jump.

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Speaker 1: He can move so far laterally with one step and

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Speaker 1: a leap that it catches the offensive lineman. And we've

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Speaker 1: all seen offensive lineman. They chop their steps real small

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Speaker 1: to get make sure that if they get contact they've

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Speaker 1: got a foot on the ground. Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're taught to slide, and they're.

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Speaker 1: Slide, but they're slide and their feet chop real fast

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Speaker 1: so that they can have at least one foot on

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Speaker 1: the ground. At any moment, any instant in time, so

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Speaker 1: they're not off balance. Well, they can't move when you're

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Speaker 1: chopping your feet like that, and he's taking leaps and bounds, right,

607
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Speaker 1: he's somewhere else by the time you get your feet,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's good. I mean, I there's you know,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about him. The Five Presidents are chirping

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Speaker 1: about Miles Garrett and the Cleveland Browns and getting the

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Speaker 1: record against Josh. The Five Presidents, for those of you

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Speaker 1: who don't know, it's a tech sloop. I've got with

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Speaker 1: the old guys like Bruce and Jim and Thurman and

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Speaker 1: Andre and Will Wolford and all the you know, those

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Speaker 1: big guys. Bruce was very impressed with Miles. He does

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Speaker 1: say he needs to pursue the backside of run plays

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Speaker 1: a little harder, but that's the old guy in him.

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Speaker 1: But he's right. Everything starts with Miles Garrett over there

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Speaker 1: and up front everything everything. They're gonna have four hands,

620
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Speaker 1: are gonna have two guys, two sets of eyes, two

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Speaker 1: sets of hands, and preferably big bodies. Once in a while,

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Speaker 1: you can try getting away with a chip block from

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Speaker 1: like you know, from James Cook coming out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield of throwing a shoulder into him as he goes by,

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Speaker 1: or a tight end over there. Okay, maybe if you

626
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Speaker 1: got a tight it, you know, knocks or hawes over there,

627
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: they'll help out a tackle and give some help. But

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Speaker 1: they're not going anywhere. They're staying there. But for the

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Speaker 1: most part, if they can manage it, it'll be a

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Speaker 1: guard tackle on that guy all the time, every play.

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Speaker 3: Or a tackle tight end or a tackle back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They won't do it with a back very much because

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Speaker 1: he won't be good enough. It won't be enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no it's like I said, there's no ideal

636
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Speaker 2: planned for that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a sack at least one sack

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Speaker 2: in eight consecutive games. And I was on with Jeremy

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Speaker 2: this morning on the morning show on WGR here in Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: and this season he's like the Secretariat of pass rushers.

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Speaker 3: He's got twenty one and a half.

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Speaker 2: He is eight sacks clear of the next closest pass

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Speaker 2: rusher in the league.

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Speaker 1: Eight.

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Speaker 3: He's got an eight sack lead.

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Speaker 1: Like that is it's a big one.

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Speaker 3: That's nuts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And last week he had four tackles, a sack and

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Speaker 2: a half. He's gonna be tough to keep off the

652
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Speaker 2: board on the sack total. You just hope he like

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Speaker 2: bear hugs Josh, the ref blows the whistle, and nobody

654
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Speaker 2: goes to the ground. Really, if he gets back there,

655
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: that's the ideal outcome. He just bear hugs Josh, the

656
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: ref blows the whistle, nobody goes to the ground, and

657
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: we live for another play. That's that's the best you

658
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: can hope for, because at some point in time, he's

659
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 2: just gonna win.

660
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 3: Like, you're not gonna bat a thousand against that guy.

661
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: You're just not. No, you're not. He's gonna get He's

662
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: Josh's gotta help Josh. You gotta help both pre and

663
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: post snap. Josh, you gotta help his offensive line. That's

664
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: all there is to it. And I'll and I'll say

665
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: this too. I know offensive linemen. I've hang around those guys,

666
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: and I know how they think. They don't care if

667
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: every other defensive lineman on the b on the Browns

668
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: roster gets a sack they don't get. But Miles can't

669
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: get even one, not even a half. You know, That's

670
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of the contest that we're in. So that

671
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: may be what gets the Bills offensive line and to

672
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: plug in and say let's go in this game we

673
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: got let's go, We're not our guy's not getting touched

674
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: and in fact, we're gonna run the ball for two

675
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards and then we're not gonna throw them. That's

676
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: one way to fix it, you know. So I'm that's

677
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: a that's a plus. We'll see if if how this

678
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: plays out. It's not nothing that I can tell you

679
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: the whole locker room. We'll talk about that at some

680
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: point during this week and a lot, a lot even

681
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: the even though Pip squeaks like me will we'll poke

682
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 1: the bear in the offense, like what do you guys

683
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: gonna do? I don't know.

684
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: That guy's something.

685
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: He's pretty good. So it's it's a lot of fun.

686
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Uh when you know you've got a supreme challenge coming

687
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: up and uh, but you also have some confidence in

688
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: your guys. It'll be fun. That's gonna be a fun

689
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: part of this game this weekend. It really is. And

690
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is he is he's probably he's the best

691
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: defensive player in the league this year. And it ain't close.

692
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna be.

693
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: It is not run away winner for defensive play.

694
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: It is not close. He's an all timer, so it's

695
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: going to be fun to watch him play.

696
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Uh, let's check what's going on on the tweet sheet

697
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: with respect to questions here. Tweet sheet mail bag brought

698
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Speaker 2: to you back Horgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

699
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills. Where Jacob asks, I've seen

700
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: statistics that the Bills are the best at defending the

701
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: tight end in the NFL. The Browns best pass catcher

702
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: is Fannin. How do you think the Bills will do

703
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: defending him this week? I don't think it's against tight

704
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: ends specifically, Jacob. I think they have one of the

705
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: best pass defenses in the NFL, and part of that

706
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: is obviously defending tight ends too. I don't think they're

707
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: the best though, in the league, but I'll double check

708
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: that for you. I know they're number They're either number

709
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: one or number two against the past though this season.

710
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: So that has been good.

711
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 9: Uh.

712
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: Fannin's a good player for them. He's their leading receiver.

713
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: He's got sixty six catches. Played his college ball right

714
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: down the road at Bowling Green.

715
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

716
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: When you know you've heard it for years, A young

717
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: quarterback's best friend is offen a tight end.

718
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: When Shadeur Sanders is not throwing the deep ball, which

719
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: he loves to do to Bond or somebody he has

720
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: leaned on that guy Fan and the rookie tight end,

721
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Fan and a lot. I was watching some of the

722
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: commentary and watching the game one of the and the

723
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: analyst said, I think he's doing it too much. He's

724
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: looking at Fan and too much, and it led to

725
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: an interception or two for him and his growth. So, yeah,

726
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: that you can bet tendencies are showing up now after

727
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: four games, teams are going to get in a handle

728
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: on what they do and do not do with Shador

729
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: and what they try and stay away from. And yeah,

730
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: so they'll have a better handle on what Cleveland's offense

731
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: is with Shadoor Sanders at the Helm Rether than you know,

732
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: some of the other teams they played thus far. I've

733
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: got they've gotten a really good look at it.

734
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here when we come back, more

735
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. We'll lead off with Mike and Syracuse,

736
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Speaker 2: but open lines for you at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight five point fifty two

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Speaker 2: five point fifty On this Obel Friday fan Mailbag edition

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Speaker 2: of One Bill's Live Stay with Us, Collision Course is

740
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Speaker 2: presented by Gabes. Collision your Car's best defense, and it's

741
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: a pretty obvious one here this week it's Buffalo's O

742
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 2: line against Brown's pass rusher Miles Garrett. We're just talking

743
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: about him in the last segment. There is no ideal

744
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: plan for this guy because he's a unicorn.

745
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: There's got to be a way.

746
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: To come up with a plan.

747
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: For this euro step move that he uses. Like, I

748
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: don't know, do you just have tighter splits on his side?

749
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

750
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Well the problem is if you have tighter splits, it

751
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: shortens the edge and you know, so it's you just

752
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: got to know once in a while he's gonna get you.

753
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that simple. His he's such an athlete,

754
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: such a physical specimen.

755
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 9: He's huge.

756
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. He competes at a high level. Uh,

757
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: and there's just you know, if he gets he's he's

758
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: great at splitting double teams. So you know, if you're

759
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: double team in him as two offensive linemen, you almost

760
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: got a touch from your shoulder down to your hip.

761
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Otherwise he's gonna get between you. Uh that he's that slippery.

762
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: So if you do get that tight together, then it's

763
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: then he can run a circle around you before he

764
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: even touches when he gets to the quarterback. He's just

765
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: such an athlete. He's playing that. He's playing the sport

766
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: like a guy, like a little jittery five eight point guard.

767
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of those guys, except he's got except.

768
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: He's six leaping to the left like a gazelle on

769
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: one step and then the second step he's already into

770
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: the backfield.

771
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a he's we call him one percenters. He's

772
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: one percent of one percent. That's kind of athletic gifts

773
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: he has. And it's hard to contend with that. So

774
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: down after down after down. So you really got it?

775
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: What you you know? The plan for me, Brownie would

776
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: be this. You got to give him everything but what

777
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: he wants. You can't give him an automatic passing down.

778
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: If you can hang, you know, if you can get

779
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: a stay out of third and long right, run the

780
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: football right at him, you know, make him bear up

781
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: and don't give him a chance to use all his

782
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: lateral movement all that he's got to bear up and

783
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: just hold up. And that means also he's not moving

784
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: right run right at him.

785
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: We're taking the physicality to him.

786
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, you take it to him, or you use

787
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: his aggression again him. You don't block him, let him

788
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: come in on Josh and Josh flips it right over

789
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: his head and you're off behind him. Uh, that kind

790
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. Uh, frustrate him a little

791
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: bit that way. Don't give him any obvious passing downs

792
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: and don't give him what he expects. So it's hard

793
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: to play football when you're thinking about this guy Joker

794
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: over here and you're thinking, Okay, well we can't run

795
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: that play because you know, uh, you know, we don't

796
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: want to drop back. We don't want to you know,

797
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: drop back and run the deep dig pass route because

798
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: I got to drop back seven steps hitch and then

799
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: throw it. He's gonna be in my lap. So yeah,

800
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: to me, that's what you do. You take you take

801
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: it right at him.

802
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: And like Dan Orlofsky said earlier this week, there you've

803
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: got to be four hands on that guy on every

804
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: single play. Four let's check in on the phone lines

805
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 2: on this OBL Friday fan mail bag and to Mike

806
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: in Syracuse.

807
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: What's up, Mike, Hi Chris, I see you.

808
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 8: Thanks so much to take my call. Sure, I was

809
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 8: calling you. Guys. Obviously been talking a lot about Miles

810
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 8: Garrett because he's probably one of the only players worth

811
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 8: talking about on the Browns. I just I had a

812
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 8: couple of questions about him just overall, like how how

813
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 8: big of a generational talent do you think this guy

814
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 8: really is? And I guess just comparatively, I would only

815
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 8: ask like, how how much do you think he alone

816
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 8: or the Browns defense can compare to the Texans because

817
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 8: they obviously have a have a very good pass rush

818
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 8: as well. I think he's obviously better than their than

819
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 8: their two pass rushers. But do you think this game

820
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 8: will be somewhat similar like playing against a Texans defense

821
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 8: or is it just going to be the Bills basically

822
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 8: versus him on defense? And I had just a few

823
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 8: comments I had about the game. I'm hoping that the

824
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 8: Bills just come out and put together a complete game

825
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 8: is what I'm kind of looking for it just from

826
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 8: start to finish, just put put together a good performance,

827
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 8: just because they've been such a second half team, especially

828
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 8: in a lot of their wins. I do have worries

829
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: just like Steve does as well, because I feel like

830
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 8: we've dropped games to inferior opponents and they obviously are

831
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 8: inferior to us. I think our biggest loss was against Miami,

832
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 8: who's obviously inferior to us at this point. And then

833
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 8: the last question I just had, you guys were commenting

834
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 8: about Dalton Kincaid and his knee. Do you think that

835
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 8: due to his kind of injury that spend the stain

836
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 8: throughout the season, do you think that they will drost

837
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 8: him for this game and just give him few reps

838
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 8: because I think we're definitely going to need him for

839
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 8: the following week against the Eagles, who's a way better

840
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 8: team than the Browns. That's all I got for today.

841
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 8: If I don't get a chance to call him next week,

842
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 8: I just wanted to wish you guys merry Christmas as well,

843
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 8: and I hope you guys have a good one, and

844
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 8: I'll hang up and listen. Go Bill, all right?

845
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Thanks. Well, every year he's played in sixteen or games

846
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 1: or fourteen games or more, including this, when he's had

847
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: double digit sacks, he had ten. His lowest. His lowest

848
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: was his rookie when you even played nine games, he

849
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: had seven. He's had sixteens In the last is twenty

850
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: twenty one, sixteen sacks, sixteen sacks, fourteen sacks, fourteen sacks,

851
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: and this year twenty one point five sacks.

852
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: He already is the league record holder for the most

853
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: consecutive seasons with at least ten sacks, the record holder

854
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: for the most consecutive seasons with at least twelve sacks,

855
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: and the record holder for the most consecutive seasons with

856
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: at least fourteen sacks. He holds all of those records.

857
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: He is a model of consistency and a unicorn. He

858
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: has seventy eight career games with a sack. If he

859
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: gets another one on Sunday, he can tie Pro Football

860
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: Hall of famers DeMarcus Ware and Reggie White for the

861
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: most games with a sack by a player in his

862
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: first nine seasons in the league with seventy nine.

863
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: Let me say this as well. We you know, it's

864
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: all fun and games for everybody around the National Football

865
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: League outside of Cleveland to make fun of the way

866
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: the Browns do stuff they can't haven't been able to

867
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: get out of their own way. You know, the quarterback list,

868
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: It goes on and on with how the Cleveland Brown's

869
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: a bundle, the Deshaun Watson scenario, not everything, you throw

870
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: it all in there. Everybody's like piles on Cleveland all

871
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: the time. I'll tell you this. They paid Miles Garrett

872
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: and they got that right. Not only did they pay him,

873
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: they realized whether they realize it or not, they realized

874
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: that Miles Garrett when they paid him, he showed up.

875
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: He wanted to make it, make people think they got

876
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: a bargain when they paid him all that money. And

877
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: he has made believers out of the entire league. That's

878
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: a guy that got the money and showed up big.

879
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: You gotta tip your hat to him. So many guys

880
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball have made a pile

881
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: of money and taken it out of gear, and Miles

882
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: Garrett shifted gears and put his foot on the gas.

883
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: So I gotta I gotta tip my hat to him

884
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: and the Browns for recognizing that's the kind of guy

885
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: he is. That's it's impressive.

886
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: It was Dicey in the offseason he was talking about leaving.

887
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: The guy wants to come right. He wants to be

888
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: and wants to be on a team that's relevant and.

889
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: Didn't change until they backed up the brings truck. And

890
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: then quickly regarding Kincaid, I think he does play this week.

891
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: I just think his reps will be monitored. They're not

892
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: gonna over tax him, and if this game's out of

893
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: hand by the third quarter, he's gonna have a baseball

894
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: hat off and he's gonna watch the rest of the

895
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: game because they have to manage him Coach McDermott's words

896
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: through the rest of the season with his nagging knee problem,

897
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: and it's probably gonna have to get addressed in the offseason.

898
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: So just get him as fresh as he can for

899
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: the game, monitor his reps in the game, and hopefully

900
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: get him out of the game no worse for wear

901
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: for the next week. That's kind of gonna be the

902
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 2: plan the rest of the way for Dalton Kincaid.

903
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: Got to take a break.

904
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Speaker 2: Our number two begins with our good friend from NFL Film,

905
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Speaker 2: Senior producer Greg Cosel joins us to talk to Mex's

906
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Speaker 2: and Oh It's about Bills Brown's next. He're on One

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908
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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, here we be our number two on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and joined as we

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Speaker 2: are every week at this time by senior producer from

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Speaker 2: NFL Films, Greg Cosell, whose weekly appearance on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live is presented by Pepsi. Pepsi is the official soft

914
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Speaker 2: drink of the Buffalo Bill's food deserves. Pepsi and I

915
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Speaker 2: want to begin with how the Bills over these last

916
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: few weeks have diversified their passing game to feature the

917
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: tight ends considerably more the last two weeks nineteen receptions,

918
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: two hundred and seven yards and four touchdowns, and between

919
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: the tight ends and backs last week against New England,

920
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Greg thirteen of Josh Allen's nineteen completions to backs and

921
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: tight ends. How do you feel it might make Buffalo's

922
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: passing game more difficult to defend and prepare for?

923
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think some's been schematic, which obviously is by design,

924
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 4: and some has been a function of what the coverage

925
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: has shown them. For instance, I'll give you an example

926
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: of the second one I thought, the twenty four yarder

927
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: to Kincaid Brownie. I'm sure you remember This play was

928
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 4: third and seven from the minus twelve yard line late

929
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: in the third quarter. Turned out to be a big,

930
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 4: big play obviously, but I again, I don't know who

931
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 4: the primary was, you know, when that play was called.

932
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: But that was a clear case where the coverage showed

933
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: because the Patriots ended up backing out from a pressure

934
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: front and going to traditional cover too, and they left

935
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: the middle wide open and Kincaid settled into the middle

936
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 4: void and Josh put it right on him. So I

937
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: think it's been a combination clearly of scheme and then

938
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 4: the way plays have played out. I mean, even the

939
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 4: fourteen yard touchdown to Knox, which came in the fourth quarter,

940
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: which was their only snap where they were in what

941
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: we call O two personnel where they had two tight

942
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 4: ends and three wide receivers on the field. Knox did

943
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: a great job of bending that route further inside when

944
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: he saw Josh Allen move, because that was just basically

945
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: you know, it was five verticals, was the play call,

946
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: and Knox just reacted to seeing Josh move. So some

947
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 4: of it is clearly schematic, some of it is a

948
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: function of play calls, but it's kind of worked out.

949
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: You know, we've seen them do a good job with

950
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: backs as well. The way they've they've you know, the

951
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: one play I love, which I love to do on

952
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: the Matchup show and we've done it over the years,

953
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 4: is when they send Cook basically from one offset side

954
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: of the formation through the line of scrimmage on a

955
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: rail route or wheel route to the other side. So

956
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: it's been a combination of things, but it's been really

957
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: really effective.

958
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: What has been and we ask you this, unfortunately we

959
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: ask you this too much. Did anything schematically change that

960
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: you noted from first half second half? I mean, obviously

961
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: it couldn't have been more different for both those clubs.

962
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: New England coming out this last week's hanging twenty one

963
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: points right out of the gate and then the Bills

964
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: come storming back and beat them. In your mind, what

965
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: changes in those games?

966
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: I thought there were two things that stood out to

967
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: me on filmed Offensively in the in the second half,

968
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: instead of playing four to two five nickel, which they

969
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: did play, they played a lot of snaps of three

970
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 4: three five nickel. Now again, you know, I'm not I'm

971
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: not in the halftime locker room, so I don't know

972
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: what the thought process was, but clearly they decided that

973
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 4: playing three three five nickel with three linebackers on the

974
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: field was a better way to defend the Patriots, particularly

975
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: when they're in their nickel. You know, obviously I'm talking

976
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: about you know, more pure pass type situations right than

977
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 4: playing four two five, And it turned out to be

978
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: really effective. The other thing that really stood out was

979
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 4: they played a lot more of what we call two

980
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 4: man coverage, so they played you know, two deep safeties

981
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 4: and man to man across the board. And they did

982
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 4: feature a spy very often when they did that, because

983
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: obviously May has a movement skills. But both those things

984
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 4: turned out to be really favorable. And I don't know

985
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 4: whether it I don't want to say confused, because I

986
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: don't know what's in Drake May's head, but he was

987
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: very tentative in the second half. You know, there there

988
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 4: were throws there to be made. He didn't see them

989
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: as cleanly as he did in the first half, and

990
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: quite frankly, as he's seen them all season long. So

991
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 4: whatever they did, and those two things stood out, he

992
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: just didn't see it the way he did in the

993
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: first half.

994
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: Did anything change in Buffalo's run defense, because certainly they

995
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: get they the Patriots snapped off the two big runs,

996
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: the fifty two and the sixty five yarder, but you know, and.

997
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: Well they only ran it three times in the second half, right,

998
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: Why what happened?

999
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: What happened to the Patriot run game? Do you think

1000
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: what was that them or the Bills defense?

1001
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you asked that, because when watching

1002
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 4: that tape, I got this sense that and and Brownie

1003
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: made a great point here. I got this sense that

1004
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: that game, because the Bills controlled the ball for so

1005
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 4: long in the second half, that the game just kind

1006
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: of got away from them and how they wanted to

1007
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: play it. And sometimes that happens.

1008
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1009
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 4: One thing to keep in mind, you know, I've there's

1010
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 4: always a narrative that Josh Allen is Superman, and you

1011
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 4: know how I feel about Josh Allen. But the Bills

1012
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: have the most second half rushes of any team in

1013
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: the NFL, and James Cook has the most second half

1014
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: rushes of any back in the league. This is a

1015
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: team that when they come out in the second half,

1016
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 4: almost no matter what the score is, they stabilize their

1017
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: offense with the run game. I mean, you know, rarely,

1018
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 4: and I think Brownie tell me if you can remember otherwise,

1019
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 4: certainly this year, rarely do they come out in the

1020
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: second half when they're down and just start tossing the

1021
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: ball all over the yard. They do not play that.

1022
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: Way, no, and it's been very fruitful for them because

1023
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: they lead the league on second half point differential at

1024
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 2: plus one sixteen.

1025
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's even close to that. So they've been really.

1026
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Good in the Nixon and half.

1027
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 4: You know, they're a very good running team. The old

1028
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: line has played really really well. They come out, they

1029
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: run the ball. We've seen their run game be extremely

1030
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 4: multiple depending on the opponent. You know, some weeks it's

1031
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: a lot of gap scheme with pullers. Other weeks it's

1032
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 4: a lot of zone where you don't see anybody pull

1033
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: Some weeks is a good mix of both. But this

1034
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 4: team runs the ball. Like I said, you know, maybe

1035
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 4: many would be surprised that James Cook has more second

1036
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 4: half rushes than any back in the league, because I

1037
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: think there's a sense just out there that every second

1038
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 4: half is just about Josh Allen and no one else.

1039
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 4: And they actually play pretty strong team ball.

1040
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: Before we get too far away from it, you mentioned

1041
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: the three three five Nickel package that they ran last week.

1042
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm also of the belief that they've come to the

1043
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: realization that without Michael Hoyt the rest of the way

1044
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: and without at Oliver until the postseason, they don't have

1045
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: enough of a speed rush from their men up front,

1046
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: and I feel like they've utilized their linebackers to fill

1047
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 2: that void. Now, I'm not saying the three three five

1048
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: is the formation they're going to use every week, but

1049
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: I do think they're going to be deploying Matt Mulano,

1050
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams, you know, Shaq Thompson, those guys a lot

1051
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: more in there. For lack of a better term speed

1052
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: rush package going forward, would you anticipate that as well?

1053
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: Well.

1054
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 4: They certainly had success this week, so you would think so.

1055
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: I mean, again, you know, we don't know how each

1056
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: game plan is, and we can talk about the Browns momentarily,

1057
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: so we don't know how you know, Sean and Bob

1058
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 4: Abviae see and the coaches on the defensive side see

1059
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: each particular opponent. But there's definitely a speed factor. I mean,

1060
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: they have way more speed on the field. Milano obviously

1061
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: had two sacks in the second half. There were times

1062
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: Milano and Williams were part of pressure concepts, so you know,

1063
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: you definitely have a speed factor. Obviously you sacrifice theoretically

1064
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: size and strength. But you know, when you said Brownie

1065
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: does make sense, you know they probably don't have that

1066
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: one guy right now that you look at. And again,

1067
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 4: Bosa's had a really fine year for them, so it's

1068
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 4: no knock on Bosa at all. But obviously they did it.

1069
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: So you know, we're just saying what they did and

1070
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: it was effective.

1071
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: We've been talking about the Cleveland Browns a little bit

1072
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: and certainly the team that struggles, and in the film

1073
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: that I've watched, it doesn't strike me that Schadour is

1074
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: out there necessarily struggling. He looks like he's he's got

1075
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: something on that he doesn't stink I guess is what

1076
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's getting better, you know what I mean.

1077
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: He does bring something to the table, right Yeah.

1078
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: You know, see, because of who he is, I think

1079
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: there's a sense that you know, he's talked about differently

1080
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: than you would talk about a quarterback that has three

1081
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 4: NFL starts, So you know, I try not to get

1082
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: into any of that. I mean, I look at a

1083
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: guy that has three NFL starts. So what do you see?

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Speaker 1: Right?

1085
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: You see some really good plays, like when he had

1086
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: bond on a forty two yarder on third and ten

1087
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: late in the second quarter. That was a big time

1088
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 4: read and throw by Sanders. It was late coverage rotation,

1089
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 4: which by the way, the Bills do a lot of,

1090
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: and he read it and he knew exactly where to

1091
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 4: go with the football. Was a big time throw. Then

1092
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: there's other times where you just see that he's not

1093
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: processing the routes versus the coverage as quickly as he

1094
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: needs to, and that there are some throws that he

1095
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: leaves on the field because of that. None of this

1096
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: is to me, I mean, I've been doing this a while,

1097
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 4: you know, as you guys know, none of this to

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00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: me is surprising. You know, he's only played three games,

1099
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: and we know prior to even playing that he wasn't

1100
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: getting you know, a lot of first team reps. So

1101
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: you're going to see good plays and you're going to

1102
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: see bad plays and or less than good plays. Bad

1103
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 4: as a relative term. You know, it's not as if

1104
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: he's throwing you know, four picks a game. Are there

1105
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 4: times he holds the ball too long?

1106
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 10: Yes?

1107
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: The one thing that can be cleaned up, for sure,

1108
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 4: But I think it's something that will be talked about

1109
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: by the d line coach and the linebacker coaches. He

1110
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: does have a tendency to hold the ball with one

1111
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: hand both in the pocket and when he moves, and

1112
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 4: you know, that's something that can be cleaned up and

1113
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: must be cleaned up because you really can't play like

1114
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: that on a consistent basis in the NFL.

1115
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: One of the things I was going to ask you,

1116
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: he's got bond He throws too. He likes to throw

1117
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: the deep ball. We know he's pretty good at it.

1118
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: But the guy he's kind of leaning on more when

1119
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: he's not throwing the deep ball is the rookie tight

1120
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Speaker 1: end Fannin. Yeah, talk to me about that combination.

1121
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well, they play a ton of twelve personnel.

1122
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 4: They're one of the highest percentage twelve personnel offenses in

1123
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 4: the league, where that means they have won back in

1124
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 4: two tight ends, and Fannin has become a really good player.

1125
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Speaker 4: I'll be the first to admit I didn't I didn't

1126
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: love his tape coming out. He's played way beyond what

1127
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: my evaluation was of him, and he's clearly sort of

1128
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 4: their number one receiver right now. So we'll see now.

1129
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: I know they've got some injuries this week that will

1130
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 4: impact their old line. I believe Conklin's out. I believe

1131
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 4: Teller's out. So they're playing with some backups. Of course,

1132
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 4: they've been playing with some backups here and there throughout

1133
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: the year, you know, and when you're playing with backups,

1134
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 4: your quarterback has to be incredibly precise in playing with

1135
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 4: timing and getting rid of the ball. And that's where

1136
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: Sanders is still learning. Like I said, he started three games.

1137
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 4: You know, people are you know, it's almost impossible to

1138
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 4: have a sense of what he is going to be,

1139
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 4: you know, which, of course everybody wants to do that,

1140
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 4: but you do see some flashes. I mean you're right, Steve,

1141
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 4: I mean there are really good throws. Even the interception

1142
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: he threw that went off Judy was a big time throw, right.

1143
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: So Greg, what about how this draft class is filling

1144
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: large roles for the Browns?

1145
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean almost front to back.

1146
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: You know, you get Sanders Judkins, who looks like a

1147
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: tackle breaking back that has some pop and punch. You

1148
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: already mentioned Fannin, You got Isaiah Bond Swessingers killing it.

1149
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: On defense, a really good player, Like, how.

1150
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: Are we just seeing this draft class on display because

1151
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: they need them in the lineup or do you feel

1152
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: that they've earned these roles and Cleveland hit it out

1153
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: of the park with the draft class.

1154
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 4: Well, I think based on production of a number of

1155
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 4: these players, and even Dylan Samson before he got hurt,

1156
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 4: I think he's out this week if I'm not mistaken,

1157
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: but he was providing a quality plays as the compliment

1158
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 4: to Judkins. I do know for a fact that when

1159
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: they drafted both those backs Brownie, that they anticipated just

1160
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 4: what they were getting. Judkins is the foundation back and

1161
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 4: Samson is the compliment and that was working out well.

1162
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: Schwesssinger has been really good, not just a guy that

1163
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 4: has to play because they didn't have anybody else. He's

1164
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: been a really good player. You could say the same

1165
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 4: with Fannin. So it's been a really good draft class. Obviously,

1166
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 4: the big question will be how they see Sanders. I

1167
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: imagine the next three games in their mind will determine

1168
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: quite a bit as to you know, where they go

1169
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position, so you know, and they're with

1170
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 4: him every day, so they know more than we do

1171
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 4: and you know, their defense has been up and down,

1172
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 4: but it's not an easy defense to play against. So

1173
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: you know, Jim Schwartz. You know, one of the questions

1174
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: I to ask offensive coaches that I know is who

1175
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 4: are the tougher defensive coordinators to play against? And Jim

1176
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: Schwartz's name always comes up, So you know, even though

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 4: they may not have great people. Obviously they've got a

1178
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: pretty good pass rusher, but even though they may not

1179
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 4: have great people from top to bottom, and Denzel Ward's

1180
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 4: going to be out as well, so you know, it's

1181
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: still not an easy defense to play against.

1182
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: Give me some ideas what Cleveland is trying to do

1183
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: with Shador I mean, we're I mean most of the

1184
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: time when you get these you know, an offensive coordinator

1185
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: will start to stay away from things he doesn't do well,

1186
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: try and give him stuff that he's absolutely done well

1187
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: while trying to expland his envelope of you know, trying

1188
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: to get him to grow a little bit. What is

1189
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland's strategy as you see it, for how they're handling

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: Chadeur in their play calling and what they're what they're

1191
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: giving him more of and what they're giving him less of.

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 4: Well, I think because of his tendency to hold the

1193
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: ball at times. I think you're trying to play the

1194
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 4: timing and rhythm pass game. You're trying to work off

1195
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 4: run action. You're trying to get the ball out of

1196
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 4: his hands. You're trying to present, which every coach does,

1197
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 4: but with some quarterbacks it's more important than others. You're

1198
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: trying to present clean reads so that he can hit

1199
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 4: the back foot, deliver the football so that he doesn't

1200
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 4: get stuck in the pocket, you know. And you know,

1201
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of wonderful conversation this week, and

1202
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 4: I loved listening to Kirk Cousins. I don't know if

1203
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 4: you guys saw that talking about progression right versus kind

1204
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 4: of the old school way of playing.

1205
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw that clip. It's

1206
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: been phenomenal.

1207
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Speaker 4: You know, you're trying to you know, I think when

1208
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: a quarterback is young, and a quarterback comes out of college,

1209
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 4: he obviously doesn't know a lot about Steve and you

1210
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 4: know this, he doesn't know a lot about NFL defenses,

1211
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: so you can't overload him with what he's looking at.

1212
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: And then I think that's why pure progression has become

1213
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 4: such a big deal because it's not that you don't

1214
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 4: need to know anything about the defense, but you're not

1215
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 4: working off Oh well, this side is man, this side

1216
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: is own. So now I'm going to work my man

1217
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 4: routs or now I'm going to work his own, you know,

1218
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: and plus defenses, and Shawn's great at this. Defenses do

1219
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 4: such a good job at disguise. So you can't overload

1220
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 4: a quarterback's head with all that. He's not ready for that,

1221
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 4: no rookie is. It's not a Sanders thing. So you

1222
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: try to give him pure progression reads where in a

1223
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 4: sense you're anticipating what you think you're going to get

1224
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 4: from the defense, and you have him just go one

1225
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 4: to two to three without necessarily worrying about all the

1226
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 4: nuances of defense. Maybe all you he needs to know is,

1227
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: hey is the middle open middle clothes and where's the

1228
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 4: blitz alert. Other than that, just let's let's go through

1229
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 4: the progression. And I think that's what you're trying to

1230
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 4: do with him.

1231
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: Last one for me, Greg, I know the system is

1232
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: the same, but Tommy Rees took over his play caller

1233
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: on offense from Kevin Stefanski. Recently, has there been any

1234
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: noticeable difference that you've just kind of picked up on

1235
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: in your review of their offensive film. Maybe they've been

1236
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: too inconsistent to really make an assessment, and maybe they've

1237
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: been too much long down and distance to really get

1238
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: a handle on Reees as a place. But I was

1239
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: curious if there was anything that popped up to you

1240
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: that might be slightly different scheme wise.

1241
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 4: That's a hard question for me to answer. I really

1242
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 4: don't know. I'm just being honest. You know, I think

1243
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: that Dylan Gabriel and Sanders are totally different players, right, so,

1244
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's it's hard to get a feel

1245
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 4: for that. For some reason, Dylan Gabriel and I know

1246
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 4: that Kevin Stefanski really liked him coming out, which is

1247
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 4: obviously why they drafted him in the third round, and

1248
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: thought he could run his offense effectively. And there were

1249
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 4: times he looked like he could run that style of

1250
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 4: offense under center play action get the ball out. But

1251
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 4: to me, and I don't know why this happens, Gabriel

1252
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: just did not look throwing the ball like he did

1253
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 4: in college. It just did not look the same. I

1254
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 4: don't know why. You know, sometimes you see that with

1255
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 4: players at any you know, any position whereas you know,

1256
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 4: Sanders say what you want, I mean, does he have

1257
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 4: a gun? No, but he's he can throw the ball.

1258
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no issue with his arm strength. He

1259
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 4: can make throws. You know, I kind of agree with

1260
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 4: what Steve said. I mean through three games, you know,

1261
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: again that's all we have. But he he can he

1262
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 4: can make throws. He can get the ball down the

1263
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 4: field clearly better than Gabriel can. He's made some good

1264
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: deep throws. I mean you've seen that, you know. And

1265
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 4: I just think that if he can hit his back

1266
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 4: foot and deliver the football, which is obviously always the goal,

1267
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 4: then I think I think he can run your offense efficiently.

1268
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 4: And that's what they're hoping at this point. They want

1269
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 4: to run the ball. That's where they start. And you

1270
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 4: you now that Brownie Judkins is a physical, tough inside runner.

1271
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 4: He gets hard yards. You got you gotta get a

1272
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:37,959
Speaker 4: lot of bodies on him.

1273
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, last one for me and Greg, give us one

1274
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: last little take on Josh. I mean, Ken, we've said

1275
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: on this show, and you've said it, the way the

1276
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: Bills run this sometimes it doesn't look sustainable, right, I mean,

1277
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: it looks like they dig this hole, like they did

1278
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati and like they did against New England, and

1279
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, Josh gets the back hot and fills the

1280
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: hole in, right, I mean, he just gets them out

1281
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: of it. But by the same token, part of their

1282
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: recipe has been to take a lot of this off

1283
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: Josh's plate with the run game. Yes, right, they seem

1284
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: able to They seem able to win that way, and

1285
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: certainly Josh did some extraordinary things, which he always does,

1286
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: but it does seem like a recipe for most of

1287
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: it that they can replicate and they will be able

1288
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: to win games because of.

1289
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess the main question is, you know,

1290
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 4: they've had They used to have a lot of fast starts,

1291
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 4: as you know, and now they have a lot of

1292
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 4: slow starts. And again they're not in the playoffs yet,

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Speaker 4: so you know, we but assuming that they get in,

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Speaker 4: you know, you certainly don't want to be in a

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Speaker 4: situation where in the playoffs, all of a sudden you're

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Speaker 4: down seventeen to three at the half. So you know,

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Speaker 4: that's a hard question to answer as to why their offense.

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Speaker 4: Although it's funny, you know, I didn't see this first

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Speaker 4: play live, but when I put the tape on it.

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Speaker 4: So the first play of the game that Cooks dropped,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, oh, that would have been you know, with

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Speaker 4: the yard game on the first play of the game.

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 4: You know, and and and that was a nice route combination.

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Speaker 4: But it's I'm sure they're trying to figure it out, Steve.

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Speaker 4: You know what what they can get done earlier in

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Speaker 4: games that involves the pass game because the run game

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Speaker 4: has been really good, and we know that cook does

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Speaker 4: have the ability to be explosive, but percentage wise, you

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Speaker 4: don't get as many explosive plays in the run game

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Speaker 4: as you're doing the pass game. So the question is,

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Speaker 4: you know, with this the run game is very sustainable,

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Speaker 4: but will that be enough? You know, do they need

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Speaker 4: to get more somewhere along the line out of the

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Speaker 4: pass game. And you know, there's no right or wrong

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Speaker 4: answer here. I mean, I'm sure they're working on that,

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Speaker 4: you know, And if they can then they're a really

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Speaker 4: difficult team to defend.

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Speaker 1: If not, then you get.

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Speaker 4: Into these situations where at times it feels like they

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Speaker 4: can go three or four drives and not a lot happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg, thanks for the time.

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Speaker 2: As always, have yourself a happy holiday and we'll catch

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Speaker 2: up with you next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you two guys have a great holiday. But you know,

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Speaker 4: we know how it is, right Brownie, it's football season,

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Speaker 4: that's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm still working. Thanks, Greg, appreciate it. Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 2: CoA Sel, senior producer from NFL Films joining us. We

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Speaker 2: have to step aside and take a break.

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Speaker 1: Here we come back.

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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls will lead off with Liz

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo when we return on OBL fan mail Bag

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Speaker 2: Friday here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 11: Stay with us.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and got to dip

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Speaker 2: back into the OBL Friday fan mail bag on the

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Speaker 2: phone lines eight O three oh five fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty two, five point fifty and as promised

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Speaker 2: to Liz in Buffalo, what's up Liz.

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Speaker 12: Good afternoon, gentlemen. First and foremost holidays to both you

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Speaker 12: and your families. Giving consideration to what has been expressed

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Speaker 12: concerning the upcoming game on Sunday, I want to make

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Speaker 12: this comment that as much as Josh puts the cape

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Speaker 12: on for the sake of the team, I think this

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Speaker 12: is the week. The team needs to put on the

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Speaker 12: capes for Josh, and you know, just give it your all.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I appreciate all the efforts that they have

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Speaker 12: put forth this season over the last few games and

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Speaker 12: appreciate it. I think that they don't need to take

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Speaker 12: their foot off the gas. I just say, just go

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Speaker 12: for it and win it.

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Speaker 1: That's a good that's well stated. That would be pretty

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Speaker 1: nice to see. I know there have been games like

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Speaker 1: that in the past. Remember that, And I can't remember

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Speaker 1: the game exactly, but you will remember the quote where

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Speaker 1: Josh said he felt like the kid who was part

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Speaker 1: of the group projects didn't do anything and still got

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Speaker 1: an A like one of those games would be nice

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Speaker 1: once in a while, and maybe they'll get one this week.

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Speaker 1: But that's it's a great sentiment. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the numbers to join us

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Speaker 2: got open lines for you there. The Bill's Friday injury

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Speaker 2: report is out. Prater Phillips and Chase lun out as expected.

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Speaker 1: We heard that from coach McDermott earlier today.

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Speaker 2: McCole Hardman questionable as of right now, still on injured reserve.

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Speaker 2: They have until four pm tomorrow to move him off

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Speaker 2: injured reserve up to the active roster if they choose

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Speaker 2: to do so. They have twenty one days now down

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Speaker 2: to about fifteen days sixteen days before they have to

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Speaker 2: make a decision on his roster status, so it doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to happen this week. And then also questionable is

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Speaker 2: Cam Lewis, who had a hamstring injury and was actually

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Speaker 2: limited in practice today. Everybody else on the injury report

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Speaker 2: good to go for Sunday's game. That includes Christian Benford,

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Speaker 2: who will return after a one game absence, to Rel

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Speaker 2: Bernard who will be fit to return after a three

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Speaker 2: game absence, Dion Dawkins, who practiced fully today after missing

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Speaker 2: the last two days with an illness, and then in

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Speaker 2: addition to that, Dalton kin Kaid who practiced fully today

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Speaker 2: after missing Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 3: With his knee injury.

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Speaker 2: Taren Johnson also good to go, along with day Kwon Jones.

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Speaker 2: They did not practice today as part of a veteran

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Speaker 2: rest slash injury maintenance day. Taron Johnson dealing with a

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: quad injury, while Daikwon Jones dealing with a calf problem

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Speaker 2: but fit to play on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: It's that time of the year.

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Speaker 2: You got to kind of gut your way through little

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01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: bumps and bruises, knicks and whatever else you might be

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Speaker 2: dealing with if you're fit to play.

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Speaker 1: It's rough. I remember it vividly, and it's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why guys willingly retire is this time of year.

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: You get down to it, you just it is hard

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Speaker 1: to dredge up.

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Speaker 3: Oh buddy's hanging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you hurt, and you feel intense pressure to perform

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01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: at a high level, and you don't know if you can.

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: And that's a pretty sinking feeling. Sitting in front of

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Speaker 1: your locker, wanting to play well for the guys around

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01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: you and for your team, if forever, for all the

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: reasons we know, and not knowing if you're gonna be

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01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: able to do it or not, week after week after

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Speaker 1: week after week. It's hard. It is hard.

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Speaker 2: I am checking to see if the forecast for Sunday

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Speaker 2: has changed, and it has still no pre sip in

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 2: the forecast, but it is supposed to be windy through

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: the morning. Looks like that wind's gonna taper off right

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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: around kickoff. Forecast high now of only thirty six and

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: the low forecast to be twenty five. If there is wind,

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna feel colder than that. Let's go back to

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Speaker 2: the phones at eight h three zero five point fifty

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01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty into Jake

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Jake?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: How you doing good?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? I was wondering, what do you think about the

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 10: AFC East and the Bills chance of going to the

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Speaker 10: Super Bowl. I don't think there's anybody left that can

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Speaker 10: contend to them.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're still going to be it. Right now, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be the sixth seed. There are five teams ahead

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: of them in the standings who've had better seasons than

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Speaker 1: they have. Certainly they've got the best player that's going

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01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: to be in the in the playoffs. Yea, in their conference,

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Speaker 1: for sure. I put Josh up against any player that

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Speaker 1: you're looking at on that board. Despite the great year

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Speaker 1: that Drake may has had, we just saw in start contrast,

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Speaker 1: how much better Josh is. Now. The Bills are gonna

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Speaker 1: have to go on the road, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: It makes it a little tougher to do, but you

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Speaker 1: know the way they're playing right now. The only team

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Speaker 1: that gives you pause. Really, are the one seed in

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: the seventh seed to me, Brownie Houston at nine to five,

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01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: who have already proven that in their building they can

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Speaker 1: beat Buffalo, and Denver is sitting at twelve and two,

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Speaker 1: the number one seed going out there where another team

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Speaker 1: with an outstanding defense that you have to play on

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Speaker 1: the road. Those are the two that bother me. I

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01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: like the matchup with New England, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, the Chargers,

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01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: and even Baltimore or Indianapolis if those two teams kind

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01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: of sneak into the back of the bracket. But to think,

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01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: and I hear the I hear the rhetoric from the

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: national media about if if it's the easiest way you're

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 1: ever gonna get to the to the it's your easiest

1449
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: path to the super Bowl you've ever seen in Buffalo,

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: I think that's hogwash. Denver, New England, Jacksonville, Pisson. The

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01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: only reason people are saying that is because there aren't

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: any star players out there that they know about that

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: they can name that are going to stand in the

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01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: way of the only star player they know the name of,

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01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: and that's Josh. I think that's hogwash. I've played in

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 1: too many games to think that any of those playoff

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01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: teams that have played sixteen games as a roster and

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: won that many games to get into the tournament, win

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Speaker 1: the division, do all the stuff it takes that are

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Speaker 1: easy marks. And I don't buy it. I don't buy it.

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: It's seasons like this that will make a name for

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01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, that will make a name for Justin Herbert,

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01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: that Bo Nicks will cement his name into the legacy

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Speaker 1: of Denver Broncos. The whole thing. Just because they haven't

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01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: done it yet doesn't mean they don't know how to

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Speaker 1: play or they're no good. So this stuff about oh

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be easy that, come on, wake up. It's

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01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: the NFL and it's the playoffs. Any one of those

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: teams on that list will punch you into mouth and

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Speaker 1: take your lunch money.

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Speaker 3: So, just to ask the Houston Texans, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Those this stuff about it, it's just because mouth breathers

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: can't think of anybody's name except Pat mahomes, Lamar Jackson,

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and so they think nobody else can play.

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: It's stupid. I'm sorry it is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you get no argument here.

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 1: We're Yeah, if they were If those guys were the

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01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: players you think they are, these other players wouldn't have

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: outplayed them. It's just that simple. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to Matt on the tweet sheet, who asks,

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 2: this isn't a Bills versus Broncos question. But on this

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01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 2: day in twenty twenty, Steve had one of the best

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01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: Bills radio calls ever. It was Bill's versus Broncos, and

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01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,520
Speaker 2: he called the Jerry Hughes fumble recovery for a touchdown.

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 2: I've looked for years to find it, but can't any

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01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: chance you guys can play it.

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 3: Well, Matt, you ask, you shall receive.

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01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 9: Roll it first down Denver at their twenty five the

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01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 9: snap and Drew Locke sets up to throw. Pressure coming

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01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 9: from behind, doesn't see it, He gets sacked and the

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 9: ball comes out loose. Bill's recover. Jerry Hughes has it

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01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 9: at the thirty five yard line. Jerry Hugh's still on

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01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 9: his feet looking to go forward, gets to the twenty.

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01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh, He's can't make it. He's gonna score. He's in touchdown.

1495
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes touchdown. Buffalo take that for a halftime adjustment.

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01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: They ran up behind, Drew lock tried to run like

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01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: he did in the first half. Step up in the pocket.

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes came in and tomahawked the ball out and

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01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: bounced around like a marshmallow. He picked it up and

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01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: then looked like he didn't know which way to go.

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: He avoided the rush. The Denver Broncos were chasing him

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01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,879
Speaker 1: all over the yard and he found the end zone.

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01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, a bullpout around like a mallow.

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01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: Trey White actually knocked that out, as you could see

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01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: if you're watching on TV. Trey White Tomahawk did ball out,

1506
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: not Jerry Hughes, but Jerry Hughes picked it up and

1507
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: ran around. He looked like the Three Stooges for a minute.

1508
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: He was running in a circle, uh like like curly

1509
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: And it really was an unbelievable play. It is twenty

1510
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: eight thirteen. Broncos have got it. It's early in the

1511
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: third and Jerry Hughes, he ran one way, turned around,

1512
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: ran the other way, ran backwards, and then came back

1513
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: the same way.

1514
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 3: Hey found the daylight and I.

1515
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: This is this is during COVID Murph and I are

1516
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: calling this game from Buffalo. Yeah, we're in the radio here,

1517
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: We're in the radio booth in the stadium over here

1518
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: across the parking lot. This is happening in mile High

1519
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: of course, so you can hear my voice kind of day.

1520
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: He's gotta make it. That's I was. So, you know,

1521
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: Eric Wood couldn't travel because of COVID, so I was

1522
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: here low and so Murph and I did the games.

1523
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: And I'll say that I said it yesterday. My greatest

1524
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: accomplishment was keeping my mouth shut for the Tarn Johnson

1525
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: ninety seven yard in the playoffs that year. This is

1526
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: one where I couldn't keep my mouth shut. He was

1527
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: running around. Oh he's good, he's gonna it was. It

1528
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: looked like he's gonna he's gonna run around and he's

1529
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: gonna go down. They'll, you know, and it'll they'll celebrate

1530
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: and all that. And then he just kept his feet

1531
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: and got to the end zone. What a What a

1532
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: fun year that was twenty twenty for for all of

1533
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 1: those of us who got to watch, well all of

1534
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: us who got to watch it because nobody could be

1535
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: in the stadium. One of the all time weirdest seasons ever.

1536
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: I remember too, and and this is coming up a

1537
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: little bit. That season the Bills were supposed to go

1538
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: to like they were in San Francisco, in Denver, in Seattle, Arizona,

1539
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: in Arizona. They had all these awesome road trips that

1540
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to, you know, seeing the

1541
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: team go and having fans go out there and travel.

1542
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: None of them, nobody could going.

1543
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: Well, the San Francisco trip got banned. They had to

1544
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: play them in Arizona.

1545
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: Right because of as wildfires?

1546
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 3: Was yeah, yeah, some other stuff. So yeah, well the

1547
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: wildfires or was it COVID might have been COVID?

1548
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: I think it might have been COVID. Nah, what was it?

1549
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: I can't remember now, but I.

1550
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: Can't remember either. The circumstances that surrounded them having to

1551
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: move that game. Just what a what a fever dream

1552
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: that whole season was? It was.

1553
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 3: I can't believe it was five years ago.

1554
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Already crazy.

1555
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: We did ask and put the call out for tailgate

1556
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: Friday to find out what you had on your menu

1557
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: for this road game in Cleveland. Maybe you're making the

1558
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: trip down the Throughway to attend this one. So Tailgate

1559
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,200
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1560
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Whether you are tailgating at the game

1561
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: or at home. Wegmans has everything you need including subs, pizza, wings,

1562
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1563
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: and order for the game this week. So let's see

1564
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 2: what you've got on the menu. We'll check some of

1565
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: these submissions here and Jack says, another cold Sunday in

1566
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: the seven to one six for the game. I'm making

1567
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: some rotisserie chicken salad sandwiches with a hint of lemon

1568
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: and tarragon on toasted Italian loaf with a arugola and

1569
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: seasoned roma tomatoes for after the game. Making Mom's recipe

1570
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: for three bean pasta fagole with garlic bread. Comfort food, Baby, Yeah,

1571
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: that's comfort food. Indeed, that is a heck of a sandwich.

1572
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: I like the way that one sounds. Chicken with some

1573
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: lemon and tarragon on toasted Italian loaf. Hope there's some

1574
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: hope there's some Sicilian olive oil port on that bread.

1575
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,799
Speaker 3: A little bit need that.

1576
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Steve says, We'll be celebrating and hosting Christmas dinner for

1577
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: part of my family. There will be a charcooterie board

1578
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: and a smoked crab dip with pita chips. Hello for dinner,

1579
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: we will have an herb crusted prime rib roast baked

1580
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: potato bar with all the toppings, along with bacon wrapped

1581
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: parmesan asparagus. We had some bacon wrapped asparagus at one

1582
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: of the tays this year.

1583
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: It was good, sensational.

1584
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 3: Man, I hadn't thought about that myself. Everything's better with bacon.

1585
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Well, there's even vegetable herb crusted prime rib roast.

1586
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: I read that and the first thing I thought of was,

1587
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: like the Grinch with roast beast.

1588
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 3: You know that's herb crusted prime rib roast.

1589
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm about the baked potato bar though. That's big.

1590
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 3: I have him down the line with a potato on

1591
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 3: your plate.

1592
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that's a great.

1593
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 3: Sour cream chot bacos cheese.

1594
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: You just throw like twenty five potatoes in the oven,

1595
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: leave them and just turn them on, and then when

1596
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: it's ready, you just get the stuff out and go.

1597
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: That's awesome idea.

1598
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: I love a fosso my bar for a baked potato

1599
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: What is your Let me ask you what is your

1600
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 2: favorite potato prep? Is it baked potato, mashed potato, scalloped potato?

1601
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: Like potatoes o grotten. Like do what what is the

1602
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: top potato for you for a meal?

1603
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: Well, for me, usually it's mashed potatoes. But if but

1604
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: that's because usually all grotten potatoes aren't on the you know, cheese,

1605
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: potatoes and cake and that's that's awesome. Is like probably

1606
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: your number one mashed potatoes. What is my goat?

1607
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm a simple guy. I love a baked potato with

1608
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: some sour cream and Chavez.

1609
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh, if you load up, it's so good. I'm a

1610
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm a big potato fan, very much. Mashed potatoes, scalloped potatoes,

1611
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: potatoes are grotten. Baked potatoes and you get baked potato.

1612
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: Come on with the with the bar there with the

1613
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: chives and sour cream and butter.

1614
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: Not eat anything else at Steve's house.

1615
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: I might just sit there with two potatoes and just

1616
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 2: go to tat on the fixed potatoes.

1617
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: Couple. Just double that bacon. You have your prime rib bacon,

1618
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: bacon bits on top of what's I got protein?

1619
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: I got the bacos on top of the patabaco.

1620
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 2: So that's the uh things cooking up on your menu

1621
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: this weekend on the tailgate tag along and remember we

1622
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 2: will be home the next couple of weeks, so the

1623
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 2: final two home editions this season of the tail A

1624
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: tag along can only imagine what the weather's gonna be

1625
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: like for Philly and the Jets game. But we'll be

1626
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: out there rolling in the golf cart, bundled up like

1627
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 2: a couple in the nooks of the north. So have

1628
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: the scarf ready, maybe the ski mask goggles.

1629
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: You'll be asking me to blow hot smoke on you

1630
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: from my cigar.

1631
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, one segment to go,

1632
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 2: as we'll have Vision to Victory for you next year.

1633
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live presented by Colid of Health, it's

1634
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. Here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

1635
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Time for Vision to Victory presented

1636
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 2: by Atwall eye Care, the official eye care provider of

1637
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. And I know a lot of Bills

1638
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: fans will enjoy their last weekend before Christmas. If Buffalo

1639
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: gets out to an early lead and performs similar to

1640
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: the way some of the other road games. Week six

1641
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: against the Carolina Panthers, Week two against the Jets went

1642
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 2: get out in front, stay out in front, and kill

1643
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 2: the game by running the football.

1644
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Right that's what you want. You want them to do. Yeah,

1645
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: that recipe they've had in years past, where they did

1646
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: it last year where they get out to a double

1647
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 1: digit lead and just squeeze the life out of the

1648
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 1: game with the run game and the clock just goes

1649
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: away and they don't have time to come back. So

1650
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting.

1651
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look at a couple of final questions in

1652
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: the mailbag, Ed says, might the Bills take the approach

1653
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: to chip Miles Garrett as much as possible?

1654
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 3: I think chipping is a part of the plan.

1655
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the full breadth of the plan.

1656
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: I looked it up.

1657
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's been chipped on twenty six percent of pass

1658
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 2: rushing snaps, so even all the previous opponents don't do

1659
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: that a ton. It's a tactic, but not one that

1660
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: they rely upon too much, because a back is giving

1661
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: up forty pounds to Miles Garrett and probably giving up

1662
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: strength in the process. So I think there are more

1663
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 2: effective means by which you can neutralize him.

1664
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: One of the things people forget. These guys are really

1665
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: good because they're supremely physically gifted. But the reason they're

1666
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: great and stand out amongst a bunch of guys who

1667
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: are also physically gifted, is because of their intellect. Miles

1668
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: Garrett's really sharp and he really knows what he's doing,

1669
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: and he's gonna if you start getting predictable, he will

1670
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: stand over there between series while the offense and Shaduro

1671
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Sanders on the field. He'll stand over there and talk

1672
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: to his guys and they will formulate a plan the

1673
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: next time they do this. We're doing this, and they

1674
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: will get him. They'll he'll get free. They concentrate on it,

1675
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: and they have plans for it. So the more predictable

1676
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: you get, the worse it's gonna get for you and

1677
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: of course for Josh Allen. So you can't do the

1678
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over, and you got

1679
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: to mix it up with people with plans, with tactics,

1680
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Never give them the same thing to

1681
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: look at twice or he'll make you pay. That's what

1682
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: the great ones do, and he's obviously a great one.

1683
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: We are still awaiting the final injury report from the Browns.

1684
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 2: It looks like they're gonna have a handful of starters

1685
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 2: out of this lineup due to injury, so they will

1686
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: be shorthanded, maybe one of the few teams that could

1687
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: be even more short handed on starters than the Bills

1688
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: entering a football game.

1689
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:29,879
Speaker 3: How often has that happened?

1690
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 2: In any event, Steve will have full postgame coverage with

1691
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 2: Maddy Gleb on Bill's Postgame Live. I will have the

1692
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: call with Eric Wood kickoff at one two pm, so

1693
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 2: be sure to tune in on the Bills Radio Network.

1694
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: That's all for us today, Steve and I'll be back

1695
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: on Monday to give you the full breadth of what

1696
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,839
Speaker 2: went down on Sunday with a three hour show starting

1697
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: at noon.

1698
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: We will see you then.

1699
01:29:53,320 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, everybody,