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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning. Just like everybody predicted Pacers Nick's Eastern

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Speaker 4: All is well, Nicks fan, going back to your youth

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Speaker 4: over there, Jared, Right, I assume you were just partying

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Speaker 4: and losing control like every Knicks fan last night, right,

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Speaker 4: Like that's I was a chill book, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: I was pretty chill last night. You know, we do

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Speaker 5: this morning radio show. That kind of prevented me from

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Speaker 5: painting the town orange and blue. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: thirteen year old Jared so ninety nine, I was thirteen

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Speaker 5: years old like that. That version of Jared is like

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Speaker 5: rolling over right now. I mean, he just he doesn't

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Speaker 5: know what to do with himself. But the thirty nine

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Speaker 5: year old gambler is like, all right, well, we got

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Speaker 5: next pager, so let's let's relax.

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Speaker 2: Bud. There you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. Well you're the one. You're the

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Speaker 4: one Knicks fan that's like pacing himself. Soppreciate that there's

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Speaker 4: one out there that's good. But how about this. We

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Speaker 4: get number three the Knicks against the four seeded Pacers

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Speaker 4: a three versus four in the Eastern Conference finals. And

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Speaker 4: think about this too, We've got the six seeded timber Wolves.

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Speaker 4: They await either the one seeded Thunder or the four

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Speaker 4: seeded Nuggets. That's what we have left. That's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: That's where we're at at this stage.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a pretty interesting playoff because I think

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Speaker 6: expect the unexpected might be the tone that's been set.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't think that we'd expect to see

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Speaker 6: what we've seen so far, especially out of the East,

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Speaker 6: but that has made these playoffs more interesting than many

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Speaker 6: have been in the in recent memory. I like the

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Speaker 6: fact that there's some new blood. I like the fact that,

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Speaker 6: you know, some old faces with new teams are having success.

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Speaker 6: I think that makes for a more compelling product. And

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Speaker 6: certainly I love the fact that it feels like I

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Speaker 6: don't know if you guys feel this way too. I

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Speaker 6: guess we could go around the horn on this one,

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Speaker 6: but it feels like there's been an edict sent down

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Speaker 6: by Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA. Let the

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Speaker 6: players determine outcomes, Swallow the whistle, save it for when

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Speaker 6: there's a hard foul.

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Speaker 2: Let these guys play.

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Speaker 6: The more physical the basketball, I'm sorry, the better the product.

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Speaker 6: Basketball is a contact sport. There should be certain contact

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Speaker 6: that should be allowed. All season long. But okay, we

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Speaker 6: have some prima donnas in this league that don't like

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Speaker 6: to be touched until playoffs anyways, but certainly during the

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Speaker 6: postseason you have to allow there to be contact. And

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Speaker 6: there's been a lot more contact than it's made for

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Speaker 5: I like the fresh blood angle. I was thinking about

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Speaker 5: this last night. Let's just assume, right Thunder are a

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Speaker 5: pretty big favorite in Game seven tomorrow, So let's just

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Speaker 5: assume for a se the Thunder win. And I don't

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Speaker 5: want to take anything away from the Nuggets because it

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Speaker 5: is game set. Anything gonna happen, But let's just say

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Speaker 5: the Thunder win your final four. In the NBA, there

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Speaker 3: And that's it.

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Speaker 5: T Wolves never, Okay, see never, Pacers never. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna have an again unless the Nuggets win. Now,

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Speaker 5: that would be one narrative. I think that would be

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Speaker 5: least moving in that direction of a Serbian dynasty with Jokic.

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Speaker 3: If that doesn't happen and the.

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Speaker 5: you'll have the New York team win that hasn't won

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting. I didn't think about it until now.

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Speaker 4: With David Adelman the interim head coach. You must have

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Speaker 4: a bunch of coaches in the NBA rooting against the Nuggets.

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Speaker 4: Why would they want the Nuggets?

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Speaker 4: They just acts their head coach, Michael Malone with three

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Speaker 4: they're gonna win a championship, but let's just say they did.

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Speaker 4: You know, like, there goes your job security even more

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Speaker 4: if you're a current NBA head coach because these these franchises,

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Speaker 4: it would plant the seed of Hey, it's not going well,

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Speaker 4: screw it, just fire the guy. You know, you got

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Speaker 4: So probably a lot of coaches around the league that

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Speaker 4: don't want to see the Nuggets succeed. How about this

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Speaker 4: with the fresh blood? So with the Celtics losing, we

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Speaker 4: will not have a repeat champion in the NBA for

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Speaker 4: a seventh straight season. No repeat champions. And think about this.

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Speaker 4: You're talking about your youth.

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Speaker 2: Over there, Jared.

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Speaker 4: We're growing up on the Bowls winning, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a couple of three peats in the nineties. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've seen a lot of repeat champions, but not as

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Speaker 4: the Knicks, So going back to the Eastern Conference Finals

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Speaker 4: for the first time since two thousand, it's like the

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Speaker 4: Conan O'Brien in the year, like that's a show. That's

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Speaker 4: the last time we've seen the Knicks there. And I

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Speaker 4: the Celtics saying, losing to the Knicks feels like death

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Speaker 4: is how he described it.

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Speaker 2: Lin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's pretty incredible when you think about where

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brunton taking over again, playing like you know, well,

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Speaker 6: that's not really him. He's controlling the tempo. He does

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Speaker 6: a nice job exploiting mismatches, especially off of pick and rolls,

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Speaker 6: I know that we've had the conversation about how there

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Speaker 6: outside of some open looks, I think in general, the

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Speaker 6: Knicks broke down the Celtics. They hounded them defensively. They

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Speaker 6: hungrier team. I think that's what I was maybe seeing

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Speaker 6: the old adage don't rest on your laurels, and there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's definitely some laurel resting that went on.

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Speaker 5: I think it is in this postseason definitely a different vibe.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just just think how it have played out,

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Speaker 5: like I mean, it feels like it was a year

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Speaker 5: So this whole nonsense of well, if Jason Tatum was there,

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Speaker 5: But I still think the Knicks they were very live

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Speaker 5: just like a coronation. I could have done without the

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Speaker 5: broadcast cutting to Russell Wilson and Ben Stiller after every basket,

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Speaker 5: a better cutaway, Like it was like every basket, there's

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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson, there's Ben Stiller, there's Timothy Shallome. Okay, we

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Speaker 5: know there's a lot of people that are high status

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Speaker 3: But I know, I feel like old man yelling at things.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Brian right now.

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Speaker 5: I'm yelling at the clouds about the celebrities that were

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Speaker 3: But it was it was a coronation.

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine what the outside of the garden was

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Speaker 5: that must have been like Gotham City.

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Speaker 4: It was either you know, it depends on your perspective.

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Speaker 4: It was either the best party ever or the worst

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Speaker 4: scene of all time. Like, here's the thing, man, like,

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Speaker 4: to you about my thoughts on Nick fans for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's the overreaction of Nick fans. And listen, I halfway

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Speaker 4: get it. I really do. They're fans, they're excited, they care,

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Speaker 4: But on the other hand, it's how far they take it, right,

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Speaker 4: Like there is no rational thinking. It's just all pure emotion,

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Speaker 4: and it's we're going on the finals, baby, we might

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Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, guys, like it's like rein it

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Speaker 4: in you know. It's almost like Nick fans are just

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Speaker 4: starving for a meal, right, They're starving for success. So

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Speaker 4: it's like a meal. They're starving, they're so hungry, and

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Speaker 2: But there there isn't. It's the opposite.

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Speaker 6: It almost feels like there's so much adulation for this

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Speaker 4: Most annoying people on the planet. It's just that's what

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Speaker 3: You know we're a little bit past.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: That's not the equivalent cele I know that's not the

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Speaker 4: all I'm saying. Be excited, go shirtless. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: But when you start talking about winning titles and all that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're halfway home. I so this is this is

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Speaker 5: then they're living on a prayer. You know, we're halfway there.

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Speaker 5: We're halfway there, baby, I mean, listen, it's better than

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Speaker 5: being a quarter of the way there. I think gambling

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Speaker 5: I didn't feel that.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 5: I was watching last night, and I was obviously excited

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Speaker 5: I think it's because I get so excited for winning money,

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Speaker 5: You know, I was kind of up and down with

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Speaker 5: just like, all right, Nicks are going to the finals,

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Speaker 4: Oh thank the heavens for TIBs. I'll tell you anybody

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Speaker 4: I get it. Until you're on a Nick's overprop. You know,

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, we're gonna get over, We're gonna get garbage time.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna take Cat out. I need one more rebound

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Speaker 4: It was a wild ride. It was I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: real fast, super fast, huh. I needed one more board

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Speaker 4: losing this game, Like, get your main guys out of there.

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Speaker 4: Richard Jefferson's talking about that on the broadcast. You could

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Speaker 4: So Cat needs one more rebound. He boxes his guy out.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, no, o, gen not right now. They take

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Speaker 4: Can we do that? So the UFL was brought up

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Speaker 6: I think it proves what we all suspected but didn't

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Speaker 6: on there, we didn't know if it was going to

432
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Speaker 6: be one hundred percent confirmed. And I don't even necessarily

433
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Speaker 6: know if this book will show us one hundred percent confirmation,

434
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Speaker 6: because you're going to have to take the leap of

435
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Speaker 6: faith and Seth wickershim.

436
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Speaker 2: I've talked to him a bunch of times.

437
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Speaker 6: If there's somebody you can trust in this business in

438
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Speaker 6: terms of his tireless reporting and his sources, I think

439
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 6: he's one of those guys. So for the most part,

440
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Speaker 6: I'm going to believe that this story is true. It's

441
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Speaker 6: the second time around, though, so I don't think it's

442
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Speaker 6: that big of a deal. And also some of the

443
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Speaker 6: characters who were being pointed to as reasons why he

444
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 6: didn't want to go to the Bears aren't in the

445
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 6: picture anymore.

446
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Speaker 2: Anyways.

447
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think to your point on Seth, these fantastic journalists,

448
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of really interesting things in this

449
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 5: book outside of just the Kayleb Williams thing, Like I

450
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 5: think the recruiting of arch Manning is something I'm interested

451
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Speaker 5: in reading and just how the youth quarterback. You know,

452
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 5: circuit has evolved over time. But to the Kleb Williams point,

453
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 5: I mean it, it's next level entitlement. Like it there's

454
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Speaker 5: really that's really the only way I can describe it.

455
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Speaker 5: Like you're in the NFL, you're the number one pick.

456
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Speaker 5: You don't get to choose.

457
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Speaker 3: Where you go.

458
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Speaker 5: And there we forget because it happened twenty years ago

459
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Speaker 5: and people recently buyas.

460
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Speaker 3: The hell of a drug.

461
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Speaker 5: But the media was not kind to Archie Manning during

462
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Speaker 5: this time when they were dictating where Eli was going

463
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Speaker 5: to go. It was not like it was probably the

464
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Speaker 5: one time where the Mannings were kind of reviled in

465
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Speaker 5: our media culture. It hasn't happened since then. Now they're

466
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Speaker 5: like the everyone loves them. But at this time the

467
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 5: media came down pretty hard on it. It was a

468
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Speaker 5: different media culture in two thousand and three.

469
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Speaker 3: There was no social media. It was a very different vibe.

470
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Speaker 5: I don't think Eli was as reviled as maybe Archie

471
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Speaker 5: was at the time. Again, it was a long time ago,

472
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Speaker 5: so I forget the exact vibe. But I do recall

473
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Speaker 5: watching a lot of the media reports during that time,

474
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Speaker 5: and they were pretty critical of what was happening. It's

475
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Speaker 5: obviously a very different culture now, but I respect Caleb. Like, again,

476
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Speaker 5: based off of the story, it seemed like Caleb was

477
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Speaker 5: the one to put the fire out, and it seemed

478
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Speaker 5: like his dad was the one who was pushing hit

479
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Speaker 5: this to really get out of hand. And the quote

480
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Speaker 5: that really stuck out to me was I don't want

481
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Speaker 5: to nuke the city, is what Caleb said. Now, I

482
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Speaker 5: think now that we've settled on Ben Johnson as the

483
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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and they've built around Caleb, like, I would

484
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Speaker 5: be willing to bet that the opinion is different than

485
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Speaker 5: it was two years ago. But I give I give

486
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Speaker 5: credit to Kayla, but man, parents get involved with their kids.

487
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Speaker 3: Just let just let them have it. It's about to

488
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Speaker 3: be the number one pick.

489
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Speaker 5: Like, just let him live his life and let him

490
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Speaker 5: do his thing and history will fall where it falls.

491
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Speaker 4: Our trusted producer Bob Benson has something here.

492
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Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, if you when you read the whole article,

493
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Speaker 7: like he was one hundred percent right and not to

494
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Speaker 7: want to go there because there's that bit where they

495
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Speaker 7: he says that they've left him alone to do film study.

496
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Speaker 7: He's a rookie in the NFL doing film study by himself.

497
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Speaker 7: His coach is not involved at all, So he was

498
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Speaker 7: one hundred percent right. He should not have wanted to

499
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Speaker 7: go to Chicago. Like if you if you met Kevin

500
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Speaker 7: O'Connell and then Matt Eberflus and you're a quarterback, which

501
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Speaker 7: one would you want to play for?

502
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

503
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Speaker 5: Wellflus is gone. I think Ben Johnson's a different that's

504
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Speaker 5: the point. I think Ben Johnson is.

505
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Speaker 4: A little bit of a different vibe. That's the thing. Listen,

506
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Speaker 4: I get it. I get why you wouldn't want to

507
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Speaker 4: go to Chicago, and you get you see a headline,

508
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: you're like, you don't you want to go there? Like

509
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: it seems way more I don't know, salacious than it

510
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: really is. To Bo's point right where it'd be like,

511
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, you know, I don't really

512
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Speaker 4: want to go to that movie, but you're taking it

513
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Speaker 4: to the extremes where it's like, you know what, I'm

514
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Speaker 4: gonna move to the mountains where I'm not even close

515
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Speaker 4: to a movie theater. That's how much I don't want

516
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Speaker 4: to see this particular movie. And you're like that's a

517
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Speaker 4: little drastic, right, Like that's where I think it is

518
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Speaker 4: with Caleb Williams. And as far as the question is

519
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Speaker 4: this a little deal or a big deal? I think

520
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Speaker 4: right now it's a little deal. I think it has

521
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Speaker 4: the potential to become a bigger deal. But to me,

522
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Speaker 4: it all traces back to how productive is he this season?

523
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Speaker 4: And I believe in his talent. I think he's going

524
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Speaker 4: to be a good NFL quarterback. And if he starts

525
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Speaker 4: producing with a really good supporting cast, they upgraded the

526
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Speaker 4: offensive line, got a lot of weapons to throw to,

527
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Speaker 4: offensive minded head coach and Ben Johnson. If he's productive,

528
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Speaker 4: this is a non story. It's like you don't even

529
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Speaker 4: remem that he initially didn't want to be there. If

530
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Speaker 4: he struggles, if he's getting sacked left and right, and

531
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Speaker 4: the Bears are losing games, like yeah, story like this

532
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: could grow and could linger around for a while. So

533
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a big deal now, but has

534
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Speaker 4: the potential to grow. If he's unproductive, We'll see what

535
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 4: happens there. We got man, oh crew want to chime

536
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 4: in on. This is a party now. Chris Purfett is

537
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: here with us. What are you ask you?

538
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Speaker 1: Ris?

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Speaker 8: Just two questions for you guys, And I think part

540
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Speaker 8: of this just speaks to what we give to the

541
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Speaker 8: Bears in deference. That if this story had been about

542
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Speaker 8: Caleb Williams didn't want to play for the Cleveland Browns,

543
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Speaker 8: I don't think anyone would have battered an eye like

544
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Speaker 8: that that would have that would have just been like, oh, yeah, no, absolutely,

545
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Speaker 8: you're absolutely right. Nobody wants to play for the Cleveland Browns,

546
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Speaker 8: but because it's Chicago, for whatever reason, we give them

547
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Speaker 8: deference even though they've been a trash fire of an

548
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Speaker 8: organization for so damn long. The second, the second question,

549
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Speaker 8: and this is the question I really want to ask,

550
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Speaker 8: would KYLEB. Williams playing in the UFL had been enough

551
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Speaker 8: for you to get you, guys, is to watch the

552
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Speaker 8: UFL for that year.

553
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Speaker 4: That's a great question. I would have watched. Yeah, I

554
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: would have watched them games, for sure.

555
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Speaker 2: I would.

556
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't just sit there and be like, no, I'm

557
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Speaker 4: not watching. I watched the definitely would have watched.

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Speaker 6: I would have treated it the same way I treated

559
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Speaker 6: the w n B A when when I.

560
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: Was excited to see what Caitlin Clark was going to

561
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: look like as a professional basketball.

562
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Speaker 6: Highlights and and occasionally if I happened to remember that

563
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Speaker 6: a game was on at the time, like I would

564
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Speaker 6: run into it. And by the way, I ended up

565
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Speaker 6: catching parts of two games that Caitlin Clark played in

566
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Speaker 6: last season. And and I know a lot of people

567
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Speaker 6: said two games, well, well yeah, I know a lot

568
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Speaker 6: of people were talking about possess. Yeah, they turned they

569
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Speaker 6: turned into massive w NBA fans because of Kaitlin Clark.

570
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Speaker 6: And I'm like, we'll see how you feel next season. Crickets, crickets. Look,

571
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Speaker 6: but but here's the deal. Here's the deal. I I

572
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: look at this very similarly to how I look at

573
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Speaker 6: all of these examples with players striking out on their

574
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Speaker 6: own or trying to strike out on their own. Oftentimes

575
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 6: fans want to sign with the franchise because they're buying

576
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 6: the jerseys. They're not necessarily buying the jerseys with players'

577
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 6: names on the back. You know, they live in the city,

578
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 6: that's their team. You know, come good or come bad.

579
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Speaker 6: So when a player bucks the system, which is an

580
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 6: unfair system, because if you think about it, the reality

581
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Speaker 6: of employment in this country, if there were law students

582
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Speaker 6: every year graduating top of their class, and there was

583
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Speaker 6: one company that you could choose thirty two markets to

584
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 6: work in, and they just got to pick which.

585
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Speaker 2: Market you were going to work as a lawyer in.

586
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: Like what other occupation works this way?

587
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Speaker 6: It almost I mean, look, there's certainly been legal discussions

588
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Speaker 6: about whether or not it's actually legal for the NFL

589
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 6: to do this, but I digress on that to say,

590
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 6: no matter where Chris, to answer your question, Caleb Williams

591
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 6: was going to be drafted to, whether it's Cleveland, Chicago, Jacksonville,

592
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Speaker 6: or any other team that has been lousy recently. Yeah,

593
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 6: there would be pushback on Kayleb Williams wanting to play elsewhere,

594
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 6: because there always is, because the for a player to

595
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Speaker 6: buck the trend, it means that he's trying to ruin

596
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Speaker 6: a system that works so well for bad teams to

597
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Speaker 6: get better.

598
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: Quickly, or supposedly bad teams to get better quickly.

599
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Speaker 6: Even though Cleveland, you know, they've picked at the top

600
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Speaker 6: of the draft many times and still haven't figured out

601
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Speaker 6: the quarterback position. Ida Cleveland, Yeah, I mean not to

602
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 6: pick on them, but it's that's been that organization, along

603
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 6: with the Chicago Bears. A quarterback has warn't clown shoes

604
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 6: for decades, you know, so it just is what it is.

605
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 6: I mean, certain quarterbacks are gonna be okay, and they're

606
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 6: gonna bite the bullet and they're gonna play for the stinky,

607
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 6: stinky team and try to turn the situation around. And

608
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 6: some of them, like the Mannings, like the Lways of

609
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 6: the past, are gonna say no, I'm gonna bring I'm

610
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Speaker 6: gonna bring my my caliber of play elsewhere. And by

611
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Speaker 6: the way, the two examples I used their Lway M

612
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Speaker 6: Manning both ended up winning Super Bowls with the franchise

613
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Speaker 6: they landed at.

614
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Speaker 3: It's a great, great point about Lway.

615
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 5: He did this to an extent with Baltimore, all right,

616
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: didn't want to go to the cult really.

617
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: Trashed, uh, really trashy that franchise in that city. On

618
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: the way out, we.

619
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Speaker 8: Just talked about playing baseball instead of football.

620
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

621
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was another one, was his leverage.

622
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
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Speaker 3: And the eighties, obviously it's a different time.

624
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Speaker 5: Like it's like it's almost like you can't even compare

625
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 5: the situations because of the culture, like there was no

626
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: social media, was barely you know, you know, the television

627
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: like you know, reporters. It was very you know unique,

628
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: the coverage. I'm sure it was very different than it

629
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: was today.

630
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Speaker 3: But like I, I actually relate to this a little bit.

631
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 5: In the television radio industry, like I didn't get to choose.

632
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: Where my first job was.

633
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 5: I was begging for any job, and I got an offer,

634
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Speaker 5: and I went to Flint, Michigan to.

635
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Speaker 2: Be a news reporter.

636
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Speaker 5: You know, I was my first choice. That was the

637
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: only television station in the first five years of my

638
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: career after Penn State that offered me a job. Everything

639
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 5: else was radio behind the scenes college sports. And then

640
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Speaker 5: finally I got an offer to be on TV in Flint,

641
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Speaker 5: Michigan as a morning news reporter.

642
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: You think that was my first choice.

643
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Speaker 5: And I packed my stuff so quick and sprinted to Flint,

644
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Speaker 5: Michigan to go be a news reporter. And now I

645
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 5: can talk to you find folks across the country every Saturday.

646
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: It's a long Look how it paid off.

647
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: Look how it paid off. Thank God for Flint, Michigan.

648
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: But again, it's just this entitlement, Like I understand that

649
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Speaker 5: his dad wants to decide where he goes, but that's

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Speaker 5: just not how it works. It's just not how the

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Speaker 5: system works. And maybe maybe one day there will be

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Speaker 5: a different system. But the entitlement of Carl Williams to

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Speaker 5: think that he can ruin the entire system because he

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Speaker 5: doesn't want his son to go to Chicago and he

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Speaker 5: wants he really likes Kevin O'Connell and they've got this

656
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Speaker 5: great relationship and he wants to play for Minnesota. Like,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Carl, but that's just not how the system works.

658
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Speaker 5: Like that's the vibe I get of this story. It's

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Speaker 5: just it's the dad trying to control the sun. And

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Speaker 5: I again, I give Caleb a lot of credit for saying,

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Speaker 5: you know what, Dad, I'm just gonna go play for Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think a couple of things real fast.

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Speaker 2: Is.

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Speaker 4: The first thing is he's not shoulder to shoulder with

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Speaker 4: Eli Manning and John Elway and anybody else who kind

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Speaker 4: of orchestrated the path that they wanted. They just talked

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Speaker 4: about that, they didn't do it, Like, he still ended

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Speaker 4: up in Chicago. So it's unfair for anyone to say

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Speaker 4: that he's like the equivalent of those guys. He's not.

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Speaker 4: It just talked about it. But to your point, Jared,

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Speaker 4: when you're talking about Carl Williams, he had a problem

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Speaker 4: with the whole rookie wage scale. He had a whole

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Speaker 4: problem with the entire CBA. He wanted his son to

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Speaker 4: make top dollar right out of college, like it was

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Speaker 4: twenty ten. And that's the other part too, where it's like, dude,

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Speaker 4: there are some things in life then are just not

677
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Speaker 4: gonna be to your liking. They just have to live with.

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00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: You can't change change everything to your liking. And Carl

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00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: Williams just doesn't seem to have that awareness of like,

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Speaker 4: why can't we just change the CBA on the fly.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean we can't just have my son

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Speaker 4: make a Sam Bradford type payday instead of a Cam

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Speaker 4: Newton type payday. That was a difference between twenty ten

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Speaker 4: and twenty eleven. Oh it's a different time now. It's

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Speaker 4: it's great for the NFL. But he's just looking out

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Speaker 4: for his son. I get that, But look, man, it's uh,

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Speaker 4: Carl Williams lives in a world where it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: why can't we just change it so it's the best

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Speaker 4: thing for either me or my son? Why why not?

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Speaker 4: It's like, cause it doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 5: Entitlement, that's why he's incredibly entitled.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, but I think it all traces back

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Speaker 4: to production this year. If he's productive, all of this

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Speaker 4: is as L Michael says, moot. Right, It is completely

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Speaker 4: mister Jared Smith, we have cooking here today.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's getting down to slimp pickens.

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Speaker 5: In the NBA, we will have a Game seven tomorrow

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Speaker 5: and the Eastern Conference Finals will not begin until next Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: I'm assuming the Western Conference Finals also.

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Speaker 3: Will be delayed by at least a few days.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it'll start before or after the

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Speaker 5: East game does.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because Tuesday, that's will be weird.

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Speaker 5: Right before Game seven of the West Final is Sunday

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Speaker 5: and they have to start Tuesday while the Knicks and

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Speaker 5: the Pacers have been.

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Speaker 3: Done for several days and they get to start the

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Speaker 3: next day. I think that's obviously a little bit reversed,

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Speaker 3: but Hey, listen, the schedule is the schedule.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to go all Carl Williams on the

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Speaker 5: NBA playoff schedule here and try to change. Let's go

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Speaker 5: with Jalen Williams over four and a half assists.

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Speaker 3: These are Game seven props for OKC.

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Speaker 5: D N and j Dub has been a dime machine.

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Speaker 3: He's coming off a ten assist game in game six.

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Speaker 5: He's averaging over five and a half in the series,

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Speaker 5: and this is a prop I was very hot and

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Speaker 5: heavy on last.

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00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: Postseason when jale Williams is really.

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00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: Coming onto the scene, and it doesn't seem like the

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00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 5: numbers have really adjusted again four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I know we're going to get a decreased total in

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Speaker 5: Game seven, because that's just what the sportsbooks do.

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Speaker 3: In game seven of an NBA game, you'll see a

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Speaker 3: significantly lower total than usual.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like Jalen Williams is still going to

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Speaker 5: get the ball in his hand plenty, So I'll go

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Speaker 5: over four and a half.

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Speaker 3: A says for Jada coming off a ten don game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with chet Holmgren.

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Speaker 6: He's been rebounding extremely well and consistency is key. Especially

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00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 6: against the Nuggets, averaging eleven point eight bounds per game

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00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 6: in this series. He's been consistent. Like I said, so

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 6: nine and a half is the line. Give me the over.

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00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 6: We know that there are elevated playoff performances, and then

764
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Speaker 6: there's what he's been doing on both the defensive and offensive.

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Speaker 6: Glass got a high stakes Game seven scenario coming up.

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00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Favorable matchup.

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Speaker 6: As mentioned, you've already seen this matchup, this series matchup.

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00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 6: Booie the stats for him anyways, So give me chet

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Speaker 6: Holmgren over the nine and a half rebounds.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm thinking boards as well. I'm surprised like

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00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: you can actively bet under on Aaron Gordon props. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: which blows my mind. He's doubtful with the han amstring injury.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how effect if he does go, how

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Speaker 4: effective is Aaron Gordon gonna be? He's got his point

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00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: toldal is at eleven and a half rebounds at five.

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Speaker 2: And a half.

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Speaker 4: He's got a messed up hamstring. Like we saw this

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00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: with Steph Curry didn't play throughout the almost the entire

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00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: series against the timber Wolves. The messed up handy. I

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Speaker 4: can't imagine Aaron Gordon who scored five points last game

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00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: with two good ham strings throughout most of the game,

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00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 4: and now with a bad one. He's gonna go over

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Speaker 4: eleven and a half. I don't see that at all.

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Speaker 4: But we can't go with Aaron Gordon for the parlay, right,

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00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa? Are you trying to

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Speaker 4: parlay this?

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Speaker 3: No?

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00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 4: No, no, it's go in a different direction. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 4: go with Christian Brown. Don't call him Braun even though

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00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: you want to, and even though it's the way it's spelled,

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Speaker 4: it's Brown somehow, I don't know how it's brown. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go with Christian Brown over six and a half rebounds.

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Speaker 4: He's had a lot of healthy rebounding games in this series,

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00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: and with Aaron Jorden compromised, I think Christian Brown's gonna

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Speaker 4: have a lot of chances to get over six and

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Speaker 4: a half rebounds. I think that's a solid blay. I'll

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Speaker 4: go with Brown over six and a half. We're looking

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Speaker 4: at for the payout over over over here? Jered, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: light bars in the break anymore.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: Plus four not bad. I actually like this a lot.

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00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 5: I think j Dubb and Chad are really gonna be

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Speaker 5: stars and yeah, Brown's been solid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right. NFL schedule release. Oh, welcome in Happy

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Speaker 4: Saturday to you. Hope your day is off to a

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Speaker 4: great start. We will get sticking a great start, so

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Speaker 4: been released. I was trying to get like, you know,

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Speaker 4: like the thch where it's like really old school and

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Speaker 4: very releasedeth you know, could we do something like that.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that if I don't know, we're just

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Speaker 4: making stuff up on the fly. It was releasedeth I

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Speaker 4: don't know, we just invent stuff. But what an awesome

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Speaker 4: start to the season. I give the NFL credit every year. Man,

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Speaker 4: they start off with headlining acts. You know, they're not like, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's get a bunch of b bands together and call

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Speaker 4: it a fest of some sort. Here we go, Week one,

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Speaker 4: We've got Cowboys at the defending champion Eagles. How about

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Speaker 4: that for a Thursday night opener. Let's kick off the

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Speaker 4: season in style. And then, oh wait, how about we

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Speaker 4: get Chiefs Chargers in Brazil the next night on Friday.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're not just satisfied yet, Great, We've got more.

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Speaker 4: How about Aaron Rodgers if he signs with the Steelers,

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Speaker 4: he'll take on the Jets on Sunday afternoon. In week one,

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Speaker 4: you'll have Sunday Night football, Ravens Bills, a little Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson AFC title game rematch, and then Monday night

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Speaker 4: you get the Vikings at the Bears with the little

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Speaker 4: backdrop of Caleb Williams wanting to play for Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 4: and the Vikings but he's now stuck with the Bears.

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Speaker 4: And get JJ McCarthy And that's the way to start

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Speaker 4: a season. Man, That is outstanding stuff. I love college football,

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00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: we all do on this show. We love it. But

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00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: college football makes this mistake year in and year out

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Speaker 4: where they're like, hey, football's finally back. We've got Rice

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Speaker 4: and Temple for you. Check it out week zero, baby,

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Speaker 4: and you're like, what are you guys doing? Why every

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00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: year is it like this? But the NFL, man they

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00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: start off. It's kind of like the Daytona five hundred

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00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 4: in NASCAR, you know, they they come at you quick.

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Speaker 4: And I love this slate for the first week of

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Speaker 4: the season. It's outstanding well.

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Speaker 6: And everybody loves the NFL for the same reason you're

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Speaker 6: talking about, Brian, because not only are these matchups great,

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Speaker 6: they're meaningful because there's only seventeen of them throughout the

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00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 6: regular season, and we know how impactful it is if

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00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 6: you lose to a division rival out the gates, it

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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 6: sets you behind the eight ball. So getting to see

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Speaker 6: the defending Super Bowl champions playing consecutive nights to open

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00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 6: the season against fierce division rivals, that's fun.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 6: The popcorn, it already feels like it's popped. It's just

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Speaker 6: waiting for us. And that's the beauty of the urgency

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Speaker 6: of the NFL. Now, I know we're going to tear

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Speaker 6: this schedule apart in a million different ways, but if

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Speaker 6: you want to talk about popcorn, if you want to

863
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 6: talk about a team that I think is going to

864
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 6: deliver week in week out in terms of how the

865
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 6: schedule makers put this together. Look no further than the

866
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 6: Buffalo Bills. All right, So here are the quarterbacks that

867
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 6: Josh Allen is going.

868
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: To face this season. Just a couple of names.

869
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers potentially, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts,

870
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield, CJ.

871
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: Stroud. Two.

872
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 6: I mean, the Bills have one of those action pack schedules.

873
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 6: And also they're favored in every single game if I

874
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 6: have it right, Yes, and they're the only.

875
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: Team out of thirty two who are favored.

876
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 6: So you know, not only did the did the NFL

877
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 6: schedule the Bills against some of the top talent in

878
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 6: the NFL at quarterback, but also somehow Buffalo, at least

879
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 6: in the preseason looking forward, is favored in all these matchups.

880
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 6: So I can't wait to see what that one team

881
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 6: schedule starts panning out and looking like by I don't know,

882
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 6: week two, Week four, week six, early in the season.

883
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 6: But it's just an explosive schedule by the NFL.

884
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 5: Brian, can I sell you on Sam Houston State at

885
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 5: Western Kentucky Week zero college football.

886
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I take it back.

887
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: That's Marquee right appointment television. How about the late game

888
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 5: Stanford and Hawaii. I mean, listen, we're all gonna stay

889
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 5: up great.

890
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 6: Oh wow, everybody knows when Cardinal faces the Warriors.

891
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm all in. I'm staying up late.

892
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: To be fair, we do get a house every year.

893
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: Week one that's good, great, last Week one that's an out.

894
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 5: But it's not Week zero to your point, I don't.

895
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: I never understood Week zero. I think that's just for

896
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 5: the true degenerate. It's like US Kansas State Iowa State's

897
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 5: really the only important game in Week zero. All right,

898
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 5: I digress because it's not like we care about college

899
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: football yet we'll get there. I love this, like the

900
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: schedule release. I think is like my favorite offseason event.

901
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: I know.

902
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: The draft is fun. We love betting on the draft,

903
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 5: we love talking about the draft. But the draft to

904
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 5: me is pie in the sky. We don't know what

905
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 5: these players are gonna be. We don't even know if

906
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 5: half of them are even gonna play. Like the guys

907
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: that are drafted after like the fourth or fifth round,

908
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 5: you might never hear their name again called for the

909
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: whole season and ever again.

910
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: But the schedule gives us the roadmap.

911
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: The schedule gives us the solid ground for us to

912
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 5: walk on and try to you know, like the Yello

913
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 5: bit road we're trying to get through the season. Like

914
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 5: you know, it might go to the tin Man, you

915
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 5: might get to the charecterw You never know what you're gonna.

916
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: Get with these schedules.

917
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 5: You always have these quirks, and certain teams have it

918
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 5: worse than others.

919
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: For example, the Detroit Lions.

920
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if they got like some kind of lottery,

921
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: but they have an unbelievable rest advantage in their schedule

922
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: this year.

923
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 3: That's built in.

924
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 5: They play eight games out of seventeen at a rest

925
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 5: advantage this year. And Rich you can allude to this

926
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 5: after like week seven. How important is having an extra

927
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 5: day or an extra three days before you play a team.

928
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 5: I mean, it's everything. And on the flip side of that, yep, Vegas,

929
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 5: New Orleans, Washington minus thirteen, minus fifteen, minus nineteen with

930
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 5: the rest edges like it just I think those are

931
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: the most intriguing things to me, Like who has to

932
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 5: play on weary legs late in the season, and who

933
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: gets to play with fresh legs.

934
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 4: Man, well, Detroit's gonna need it because they play the

935
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: NFC North. I'm sorry, the NFC East top to bottom,

936
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: think about that division, very tough. AFC North top to bottom.

937
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: Those are probably the two best divisions in the NFL

938
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: right now, outside of their own division. Detroit's the NFC North, which,

939
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 4: by the way, they play all of those teams twice.

940
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: Right.

941
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: So, ye, the Roads just their road schedule at the Packers,

942
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: at the Ravens on a Monday night, at the Bengals,

943
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 4: at the Chiefs on a Sunday night, at the Commanders,

944
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: at the Eagles on Sunday night, at the Rams, at

945
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: the Vikings, at the Bears, and at the Vikings is

946
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 4: on Christmas Day. There isn't a layup with their road

947
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 4: schedule in any game. No layups.

948
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: You know.

949
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 4: This is like the Kenba Mtumbo is in the lane

950
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: protecting the rim. That is a rough road schedule, so

951
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: that rest can help them out. But man, it's mitigated

952
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: by how tough the path is. That is brutal. Yeah,

953
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: so how about this? The primetime games stood out to

954
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: me it was kind of interesting where the NFL it's

955
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: kind of like, wow, man, you're really buying stock with

956
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: that franchise and you have no interest in buying stock

957
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: with this other franchise. A couple of things that stood

958
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 4: out where you look at the Falcons. The Falcons have

959
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: five primetime games. Do you think the Falcons are that interesting?

960
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: I know they have Michael Pennix Junior, and I don't know, man,

961
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: I don't think they're to that level interesting. And on

962
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: the flip side, how about the Arizona Cardinals with only

963
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: two primetime games? Is it me or are they not

964
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: that boring? You've got Kyler Murray over there right like

965
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: Trey McBride. You've got a decent defense. Gannon's got him

966
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: playing hard. I think the Cardinals are more interesting than

967
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: two primetime games. They're neck and neck with the Jets.

968
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: Are they that boring? Are you bored by the Arizona

969
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: Cardinals like the NFL schedule makers are.

970
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'm bored by them.

971
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 6: I let's put it this way. When when you look

972
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 6: at the NFL schedule, you have to take a couple

973
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 6: of things into count national appeal and local appeal, and

974
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 6: also ownership, like Arthur Blank has a lot more sway

975
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 6: in the NFL these days than the Bidwells do.

976
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: It's just the reality of like the I'm.

977
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 6: Talking about the power in the room amongst the thirty

978
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 6: two other owners, Arthur Blank just has more sway. And

979
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 6: then also, you know, if you think about the NFC South,

980
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 6: you know, there's only a couple more seats left that

981
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 6: quarterback that Aaron Rodgers could choose. I mean, he could

982
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 6: potentially end up beat playing in that division, which elevates.

983
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: And so maybe the schedule makers are proven right if

984
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 6: he ends up joining the Saints, because at least one

985
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 6: of those matchups will be primetime. Here's the interesting note,

986
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 6: because we were just talking about bye weeks with the

987
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 6: Falcons and early by So even though you know you

988
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 6: may have a veteran at the Helm, it's a marathon

989
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 6: for Kirk Cousins the latter half of the season because

990
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 6: they have a Week five bye, or Pennix Junior for

991
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 6: that matter, you know, breaking him in a quarterback for

992
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 6: his first season, potentially starting the entire season. I mean

993
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 6: that's a long haul, especially with some of those tough

994
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 6: matchups right up front in their schedule.

995
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: Would you prefer, like I always say, I always heard

996
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 5: that the later buys more preferred rich Is that fair?

997
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

998
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I look, I mean you'd love it to

999
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 6: seat somewhere right in the middle, but you would prefer

1000
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 6: later than earlier because coming out of training camp you

1001
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 6: usually get like a few days to part of a

1002
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: week to get your legs back underneath you. You feel

1003
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 6: ready for the season by week seven, week eight, you

1004
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 6: could use it by. So if it stretches to week ten,

1005
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 6: you can make it there. You're fine with that week

1006
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 6: week eleven. But like when it's early, when it's like

1007
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 6: week six, when it's like week five in the case

1008
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 6: of the Atlanta Falcons, man, it's a slog after that.

1009
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the best. To me, that's the.

1010
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 5: Most important part of the schedule is the cadence of

1011
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: the schedule.

1012
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: And I'm always intrigued to.

1013
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: See when you play teams and what the rest factor is. Again,

1014
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: I think this is to me the most important thing

1015
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: right now. Like obviously when we get later on in

1016
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 5: the process, we'll have a lot more tangible data.

1017
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: Who's banged up? Does the rest matter?

1018
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 5: Some teams come in and they're really healthy. Other teams

1019
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: come in and they're banged up and the rest factor

1020
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 5: is more important, emphasize more. But I look at Washington

1021
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 5: and I looked at New Orleans schedule. I was like, yeah,

1022
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 5: they have a tough but it's New Orleans like they're

1023
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 5: supposed to be back anyway, so no one really cares.

1024
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 5: Vegas also had a little tough with the rest, but

1025
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 5: it's again Vegas, like.

1026
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: No one's expecting anything.

1027
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 5: Washington NFC Championship game last year, high expectations. Washington is

1028
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: of the I think they're fair. Yeah, they're favored in

1029
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 5: twelve games this year, which is a lot. Again coming

1030
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: in from last year, that's a lot. But of those

1031
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 5: twelve games that they're favored in, three of them are

1032
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 5: facing teams coming off of a bye. They face Chicago

1033
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 5: on a Monday night, Seattle and the Giants all three

1034
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 5: of those games off of a bye. So the Giants

1035
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: coming off of bye meant play Washington, Seattle coming off

1036
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 5: of bye, they play Washington. Chicago coming off of bye,

1037
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 5: they play Washington. Like that's a huge advantage for the

1038
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: teams coming off of bye, especially considering all of those

1039
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 5: games are Week six or later. So my initial instinct

1040
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 5: when I looked at the schedule from a rest advantage standpoint.

1041
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: I know New Orleans and Vegas are kind of on

1042
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 5: the short end, no one cares. Washington kind of got

1043
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: it tough here, and they start the season relatively easy,

1044
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: Like they play the Giants to play Vegas two out

1045
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 5: of the first three weeks, they play at Land, and

1046
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 5: they're favorite in those games. They should start out maybe

1047
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: two and two, three and one's probably fair. But from there,

1048
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 5: I would not be surprised if Washington under nine and

1049
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 5: a half wins is kind of kind of catching my

1050
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: eyeball here early on in the process.

1051
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 4: By the way, I love when the NFL tries to

1052
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 4: sell us something that no one is buying, and they'll

1053
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 4: do it with a straight face, like no, really, that's

1054
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 4: what they what the Steelers. Okay, so we think, hey,

1055
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers might land with the Steelers. So the schedule

1056
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: makers they put Steelers Jets in week one for obvious reasons, Right,

1057
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers was with the Jets and be facing his

1058
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: former team. And then in week eight on Sunday Night Football,

1059
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: it's Steelers Packers and the NFL Like this is Mike North,

1060
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 4: He's the NFL Vice President of Broadcasting and Scheduling. He

1061
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: said quote. The schedule was built for coach Mike Tomlin

1062
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: and the Steelers, and if Aaron decides to play, it

1063
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: probably just makes many, if not all, the Steelers games

1064
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: a lot more A little more interesting. Is what he

1065
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: said end quote right there, So he's basically saying, oh, no, no,

1066
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: we didn't have Rogers in mind. This is the Steelers,

1067
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: this is Mike Tomlin. That's why we went Steelers Jets

1068
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: week one and Steelers Packers. What who's buying that? Who

1069
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: would nobody?

1070
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 5: Like?

1071
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: Why would you?

1072
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous. One other thing, though, is I think

1073
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 4: about season win totals. We love betting on overs under

1074
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: season win total wise. One thing is you don't have

1075
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: to do this before week one. You can wait into

1076
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: the season, sure, and I would encourage that. Sometimes if

1077
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 4: you look at the beginning to the schedule for some

1078
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 4: of these teams. For instance, if you like the Ravens over,

1079
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 4: there's season win total over, maybe wait a couple of

1080
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: weeks because look at what they have to begin the season.

1081
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: They're at Buffalo to begin the season on Sunday Night.

1082
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: That's a tough game. They get a layup against the Browns.

1083
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 4: Then they're hosting the Lions on Monday Night. They're at

1084
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: the Chiefs. Three of their first game for three of

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: their first four games are really really tough. So it's like,

1086
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: why bet over for the Ravens before week one? Why

1087
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: don't you wait until, like at least after week three

1088
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: or week four when you might get a much better price.

1089
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: You don't have to take it before week one. I

1090
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: would keep that in mind for sure.

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00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, from a betting angle, that's a good idea. You know,

1093
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 6: the early portion of the season, you know, and we've

1094
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 6: heard this from many book makers, they're feeling it out too.

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00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: You know. This is a little bit of a you know, hey, we're.

1096
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 6: Gonna it's a paint splatter against a canvas. And then

1097
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 6: as the weeks roll by, the book makers also get

1098
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 6: a feel for how these teams are playing and also

1099
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 6: early injuries like you mentioned, So marrying yourself to outcomes

1100
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: at this point may not be the best usage of

1101
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 6: your unless you do the sort of nerdy deep dive

1102
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 6: that is only available if you go to Jared Lee

1103
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 6: Smith on Twitter. So our friend here, our betting analyst,

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 6: Jared Smith has taken apart the NFL schedule in a way,

1105
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 6: and he does this every year, so this comes as

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00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 6: no shocker surprise to us, Brian, but.

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00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: For everybody else.

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00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 6: I mean, if you want a taste of every single

1109
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 6: game that's going to be played this regular season, you

1110
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 6: could check out the grid that you posted, Jared. Now,

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 6: I guess I'll defer to you because what Brian just

1112
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 6: said made sense. But is there any early edges or

1113
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 6: angles that you have fallen in love with here leading

1114
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 6: into the NFL season just based on the schedule being announced?

1115
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: Thank you for that tip of the cap. I have

1116
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: no life, buddy. I'm a single.

1117
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 5: Man with a lot of time in my hands, and

1118
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 5: so I have plenty of time to create these nerd projects.

1119
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 5: So this is why I do this, though, because now

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Speaker 5: I can look at the schedule from a you know,

1121
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 5: ten thousand foot view and say, man, this spot's weird.

1122
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 5: For example, speaking of the Pittsburgh Steelers, I think the

1123
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers have the most difficult stretch of any team

1124
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: in the regular season, and it comes between week eleven

1125
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 5: and week fourteen. Listen to this, actually, frankly, it starts

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00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 5: in week ten. Let's go week ten through week fourteen

1127
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: for Pittsburgh at the Chargers on a Sunday Night. Week eleven,

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00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 5: they play the Bengals coming off of a bye, no

1129
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 5: easy game. Then they go to Chicago in week twelve.

1130
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 5: Then in week thirteen they play the Bills on a

1131
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 5: three day net rest disadvantage after Buffalo played Thursday night prior.

1132
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: Then week fourteen they go to Baltimore on a three

1133
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 5: day net rest disadvantage after the Ravens played on the

1134
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 5: Thursday week prior. So they play three games in a

1135
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 5: five week stretch at a thirteen day net rest disadvantage

1136
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 5: again since Innaddie, Buffalo and Baltimore.

1137
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that is just absolutely brutal.

1138
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: I think that's the most difficult stretch of the schedule

1139
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 5: that I've seen in this initial wave of analysis. And

1140
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: I don't care if Aaron Rodgers plays in his prime.

1141
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: I think this is the year that the Steelers finally

1142
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 5: break that Mike Tomlin winning streak. I do not think

1143
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 5: they are going to be a nine to ten win

1144
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 5: team this year. I just I'm looking at this schedule now.

1145
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 5: They start against the Jets, should win that game. Then

1146
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 5: they play Seattle at home, then they go to New England,

1147
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 5: then they play the Vikings in Ireland, and then they

1148
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: go on their bye weekend. After the bye week, things

1149
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 5: get really tough, and that stretch in the middle of

1150
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 5: the season, really towards the end of the season.

1151
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: I haven't seen a tougher stretch in this schedule.

1152
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 5: I mean prior years, I'm sure they were tougher, but

1153
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: that is brutal for any anyone who's playing quarterback.

1154
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 4: I'll give you one that I think is as tough,

1155
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 4: if not tougher. It's the Cowboys. So the Cowboys from

1156
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 4: weeks twelve through fourteen. So they play a Monday night

1157
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 4: game in week eleven, so it really starts in week

1158
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: twelve because they've got the Rados on Monday Night. It

1159
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 4: starts in week twelve where it's a short week and

1160
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 4: they played the Eagles. That's not great to play the

1161
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: Eagles on a short week. Then on Thursday night they're

1162
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: against the Chiefs. That's rough, and then they travel the

1163
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: next Thursday to Detroit to play a road game. That's

1164
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: a brutal stretch. Eagles, Chiefs Lions on the road.

1165
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: Yea.

1166
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: And we're talking like short weeks, rest disadvantage at at

1167
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 4: some points, right, that's pretty tough.

1168
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Eagles games.

1169
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: I like the one you pointed up. Yeah, yep, there

1170
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Speaker 4: you go. All right, So we've got Rich Orenberger, Penn

1171
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 4: State All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian No.

1172
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,880
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1173
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,360
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1174
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,800
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1175
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,920
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1176
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. All right, coming up next,

1177
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Speaker 4: our main man, Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading

1178
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 4: at BETMGM, gets you all set for playoff action and beyond.

1179
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 4: We'll talk to him next. Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented

1180
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,200
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1181
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,920
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1182
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a

1183
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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,560
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1185
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,840
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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: This follow the money, real good money.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Yes, we welcome in our good friend, Seamus McGee,

1188
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: team lead of sports Trading at BEG BETMGM. Man, I'm

1189
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 4: not eating granola bars ever again, Seamus, My gosh, I

1190
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 4: need to drink a gallon of water and maybe start

1191
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: at ground zero again. But hey, we start with the

1192
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference Finals and just looking at the NBA

1193
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: playoff picture as a whole right now, if you think

1194
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: about futures, Bets, I just watched like nineteen videos of

1195
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 4: Nick fans going insane after beating the Celtics last night

1196
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: getting to the Eastern Conference finals. If you could eliminate

1197
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: one team from the picture of winning everything, would you

1198
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: eliminate the Knicks or another team?

1199
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 9: Shamus, Hey, guys, thanks for having me back, and I

1200
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 9: just want to get ahead of this really quickly. Any

1201
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 9: video you see of someone walking along a street light

1202
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 9: on the corner of thirty third and seventh Avenue, City,

1203
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 9: that is not me. That is not me. But if

1204
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 9: I had to pick anyone to not win either t

1205
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 9: Wolves is not a great result from the book at all,

1206
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 9: So Pacer, really it's just the two Wolves at this point, Pacers,

1207
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 9: you know, not a terrible result. Nicks and Thunder actually

1208
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 9: really solid finals winners for us. So if we get it,

1209
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 9: we're at the point where if we get a Knicks

1210
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 9: Thunder finals right now, the way the money stands, I mean,

1211
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 9: it's looking pretty good. We did open this series price

1212
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 9: last night in the Knicks. I mean, the early money

1213
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: just piled in on the Knicks on the series price.

1214
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 9: But as far as the Eastern Conference champion future that

1215
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 9: we had open all year, the Knicks were a great

1216
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 9: result for that. So we'll see how the money shakes out.

1217
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 9: But the series price right now, it's one way traffic

1218
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 9: on the Knicks at minus one fifty.

1219
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that serious price is intriguing. I mean, obviously

1220
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 5: the Knicks get get home court, which is important, but man,

1221
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 5: the Pacers have kind of had their number, especially last year,

1222
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 5: but different series, a little less injuries to do with

1223
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 5: for the Knicks. This year, they have towns they didn't

1224
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 5: have towns last year. I think I think, I do

1225
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 5: think the Knicks probably win that series. I think it's

1226
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 5: the it's the NBA Finals is where the Knicks will

1227
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 5: meet their eventual demise. But we'll get there when we

1228
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 5: get there. Game seven tomorrow night Thunder and Nuggets. I mean,

1229
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 5: this has been an awesome series. I think we all

1230
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: expect the Thunder to but Seamus, really the totals caught

1231
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: my eye because we just get out of hand with

1232
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 5: these game sevens, and how you know the books really

1233
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 5: over adjust on these totals right, Like Game one total.

1234
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: Two twenty nine and a half.

1235
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 5: We peaked at two thirty two in Game three after

1236
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 5: the Thunder had that big blowout in Game two.

1237
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: Now we're down to two thirteen in game seven.

1238
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 5: Like, have we gone too far with adjusting these totals

1239
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 5: down for these late series games?

1240
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 9: Maybe? I mean it's hard to say right now. A

1241
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 9: lot of money has come in on over to twelve

1242
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 9: and a half. We now sit at two thirteen and

1243
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 9: a half now, so there is some buy back going

1244
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 9: pushing this number up right now.

1245
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 6: Hey, NFL schedules released, We were talking about it earlier.

1246
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 6: Bills favored in every single game. Uh, should we just

1247
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 6: go all in and say they're gonna win all seventeen

1248
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 6: of them?

1249
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: Like, what would you say? Does the math math? I

1250
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: guess is the question here, Seamus?

1251
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 9: I mean, they got a great draw the schedule this year.

1252
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 9: It seems like every tough game they have is they

1253
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 9: get in that home. So it's definitely a great schedule

1254
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 9: for the Bills. Are they're gonna win every game? I

1255
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 9: don't know, we say it every year. You know, if

1256
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 9: Mahomes couldn't do it last year, like, it's like Mill's

1257
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 9: gonna do it this year. I just don't know.

1258
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 4: The schedule being released in the NFL shamous where it

1259
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 4: caused you to look at a team differently, maybe a

1260
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: season win total over under, anything like that based on

1261
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 4: their path.

1262
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 9: Two teams. Hatriots schedule I think really lines up well

1263
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 9: for him. I was a little low on this team.

1264
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 9: I said, Drake may looked pretty good last year, but

1265
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 9: I'm still much sold on the pass catchers on this team.

1266
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 9: But I think the defense is going to take it

1267
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 9: a pretty decently four with Brable there and the schedule

1268
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 9: I have it is the second easiest schedule in football

1269
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 9: this year. Another team you guys touched on earlier, like

1270
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 9: this is a tough schedule for the lines you brought up,

1271
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 9: like what they get for the rest and they are

1272
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 9: going to need it. Like I think the lines maybe

1273
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 9: to even miss the playoffs might be worth a shot.

1274
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 9: I mean, it's a really it's a lot of changes

1275
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 9: in the staff. It's you know, they got to really

1276
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 9: hit the ground running here.

1277
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think Detroit because of the staff changes.

1278
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the most. Like that's the

1279
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 5: next step of the equation for me. Like, now that

1280
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 5: we have the schedule, Seamus, I'll get into some team

1281
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 5: by team capsules and I'll really dig into the cadence

1282
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,479
Speaker 5: of the schedule and you know what teams are missing

1283
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 5: compared to last year. Is it fair to say that

1284
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 5: the coordinators both Having both coordinators gone, is that more

1285
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 5: impactful than having a difficult schedule, because it seems like

1286
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 5: Detroit's kind of up against both.

1287
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 9: I think it's a little callum I will call them

1288
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 9: be because I mean, obviously, to have a deep run

1289
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 9: in the NFL, you've got to have things break away.

1290
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 9: You need some luck to go right, and that happens

1291
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 9: with the schedule, like you need that to kind of

1292
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 9: fall in line for you. At the same time, I mean,

1293
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 9: you're losing two great coordinators in my opinion, and one

1294
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 9: of them the best play caller in football probably, So

1295
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 9: how do you respond? I mean, is it going to

1296
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 9: be a big step back? Is it just you know,

1297
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 9: famous schedule? But yeah, we'll see. I think it's a

1298
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 9: huge deal that like a ton of other guys underneath

1299
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 9: Glenn and Johnson left too. It's not like just the

1300
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 9: coordinators left and they just promoted a house. But yeah,

1301
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 9: it's going to be interesting to watch the Lions this year.

1302
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 6: Given the schedule. All right, oh sorry, real quick, real quick, Brian,

1303
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 6: given the schedule quick once over. Baltimore starts off their

1304
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 6: season with a real tough run. They go to Buffalo,

1305
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 6: they face the Browns, they have the Lions on Monday

1306
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 6: Night Football at the Chiefs and Texans before they host

1307
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 6: the Rams, and then they get rest but with the

1308
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 6: bye week. But but that's another team. I'm not sure

1309
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 6: what their win total is slated at, but I look

1310
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 6: at Baltimore as a team that could be could be

1311
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 6: on the brink of having at least a down start

1312
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 6: to their year.

1313
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: What is their win total in Baltimore.

1314
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: It's nine and a half. No, it's eleven and a half.

1315
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 3: Sorry's eleven and a half. It's eleven and a half.

1316
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1317
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, we have a bunch of alls up on site

1318
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 9: for the Ravens this year. But you are right, I

1319
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 9: mean it is tough. Out of the case, I think

1320
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 9: they're really good. I think they might actually start better

1321
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 9: and then it may look but as you said before,

1322
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 9: they're a team where you know you wait until week

1323
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 9: five when they play Houston. Maybe you can get a

1324
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 9: good number on the win total there real quick. I

1325
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 9: think another team the opposite direction is the Commander's there.

1326
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 9: I know we brought up there. You know, first three

1327
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 9: games they could be two and one. I think take

1328
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 9: I think there's a very real world. The Commanders don't

1329
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 9: win a road game this season, Like if they lose

1330
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 9: to the Giants, that is not an easy road schedule

1331
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 9: they have here. But they had a horseshow up the

1332
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 9: proverbial rear end last year? Like, I think this is

1333
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 9: a team that's do for some regression.

1334
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: I agree, all.

1335
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: Right, same as special time. What do you have cooked

1336
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 4: out for us? I don't want to lead you in

1337
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: a direction, but you know, big NBA debut weekend. We

1338
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 4: got a little bit of a taste last night. Where

1339
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 4: we going today, Seamus.

1340
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 9: I do love my New York Liberty, but this Yankees

1341
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 9: price stinks to me today. I like, I think the

1342
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 9: Yankees are going to get on Griffin Canning uh so well,

1343
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 9: a pretty vanilla pick this week. I'm thinking the Yankees

1344
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 9: money line.

1345
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: I like it.

1346
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 4: Little New York teams, little Bronx bomber action, Okay, no problem,

1347
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: almost like in New York Parlay, so almost mainstream Shamous

1348
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 4: from you. This is weird. You're almost like the heavy

1349
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 4: metal of you know, Seamous specials. It's always undergrounded. Now

1350
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 4: this is as mainstream as it gets.

1351
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 9: It's just slim pickings this time of year, guys. You know,

1352
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 9: soccer seasons winding down, the availability of betting, the All

1353
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 9: Ireland Football Championships. It's not great, so I can't honestly

1354
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 9: give that pick out. So this is we're stuck with

1355
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 9: baseball for for a little bit. Unfortunately, it's great during

1356
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 9: football season when.

1357
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 4: No worries at all. Shamous, you have to apologize. It's

1358
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: totally We'll cash anything as.

1359
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: Long as it winske If it doesn't win, then you're

1360
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: gonna have it.

1361
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 4: Yes, whether it's lower tier rugby or it's the New

1362
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 4: York Yankees, they cash the same, you know. So appreciate

1363
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: your time, Seamus. I hope you have a good day.

1364
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: We'll catch you soon, Bud.

1365
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 9: Thanks, guys, have a good one.

1366
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: Good stuff Seamous.

1367
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: There he is Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading

1368
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 4: at bet MGM. Great stuff as always. Okay, so speaking

1369
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 4: about getting paid, right, we're hoping it's us with these bets.

1370
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 4: But brock Perty Niners quarterback five year deal two hundred

1371
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 4: and sixty five million dollars. Now that's one hundred and

1372
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 4: eighty one million dollars guaranteed. That's what really matters. So

1373
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: you're looking at roughly fifty three million dollars per year.

1374
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 4: You could do like you could crunch numbers and I

1375
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 4: know Pro Football Talk put it out there where it's

1376
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 4: more like forty five million dollars per year, but it's

1377
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 4: technically fifty three. I mean, what do you think about this?

1378
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 4: That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money

1379
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 4: to pay party. And you got a little bit of

1380
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 4: a glimpse last year with all the injuries and his

1381
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 4: numbers came down noticeably where you think it's a good

1382
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 4: deal for the Niners to back up the Brinks truck

1383
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 4: to this degree for.

1384
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: Purdy, Yeah, I do.

1385
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 6: And and the reason is because we also saw a

1386
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 6: regression with Patrick Mahomes. You know, you see regression with

1387
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 6: all quarterbacks at certain points, and and sometimes it's coincidental,

1388
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 6: you know, like it's it's a tough year for the

1389
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 6: whole for for the quarterback, and and it maybe it

1390
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 6: maybe it doesn't have as much to do with the

1391
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 6: variables that were pointing out, but in this case, it

1392
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 6: does feel like they were correlated. The injuries at skill

1393
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 6: seem to affect Purdy's play. But but my question is, like,

1394
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 6: what what do you do if you're general manager and

1395
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 6: you're saddled with this situation like you're in John Lynch's seat,

1396
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 6: where not only do you love the quarterback because John

1397
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 6: Lynch had he had he said it early, and he

1398
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 6: said it off and he loves Brock Purty.

1399
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: Your head coach.

1400
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan loves working with him, thinks he's one of

1401
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 6: the smartest guys he's worked with.

1402
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: His father, Mike.

1403
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 6: Shanahan, was banging on the table to Purty some some

1404
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 6: starting reps when he was buried on the depth shot

1405
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 6: depth chart. Mike Shanahan, who isn't a coach any longer,

1406
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 6: but he's a consultant for the organization because obviously his

1407
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 6: son is the head coach. I mean, when there's so

1408
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 6: much organizational pressure to have this guy continue to be

1409
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 6: your quarterback, then pressure from the outside that we often

1410
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 6: don't talk about when it comes to football decisions. But

1411
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 6: every football decision is also a business decision. And the

1412
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 6: business is getting as many butts in the seats as

1413
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 6: possible and have as many people banging the drum for

1414
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 6: your banner as possible.

1415
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do?

1416
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 6: Not pay the guy, trade him away, have him go

1417
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 6: have success with another team who actually is interested in

1418
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 6: paying for a quarterback, and then you go into the

1419
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 6: doll drums for a while.

1420
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: It's bad business.

1421
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 6: There's there's no there's nothing that the forty nine ers

1422
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 6: could have done other than pay Brock Party that would

1423
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 6: have given you more consistent or predictable results. I think

1424
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 6: Brock Purdy is who he is. I don't think he's

1425
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 6: gonna get much better or much worse than what we've

1426
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 6: seen so far. And unfortunately for the forty nine ers,

1427
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 6: this this or fortunately, depending on how everything works.

1428
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: Out, this is the only decision they could have made.

1429
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 3: Agreed, and I.

1430
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 4: Don't totally disagree.

1431
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 5: Wow, I'll be interested to hear to hear that side

1432
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 5: of it. I think again, you're at this point. This

1433
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 5: is what the quarterback situation is in the NFL. Like

1434
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 5: who else someone has to play quarter Like who else

1435
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 5: is San Francisco is gonna get? And if it's gonna

1436
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 5: be someone good they're gonna have to pay him. And

1437
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 5: maybe Brock's not that guy, but at least he's in

1438
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 5: the system and he knows the situation.

1439
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 3: I think.

1440
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 5: I think the bigger as from Sancisco this year is

1441
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 5: the offense in general, and not Brock Party. Like, you

1442
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 5: lose Debo, you lose a little bit of firepower, you're

1443
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 5: a year older on the offensive line. But the schedule

1444
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 5: makers did them some favors. Right here are their first

1445
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 5: four games, Seattle on the road.

1446
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 3: That's a tough one.

1447
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 5: But then New Orleans, Arizona, Jacksonville, Like, I think they're

1448
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 5: gonna be three and one, maybe four and zero, and

1449
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 5: then they play a really tough Thursday night game against

1450
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 5: the Rams. That's when we'll get our first look of

1451
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: how good this Niners team really is this year. They

1452
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 5: were saddled with terrible luck last year, not only injury wise,

1453
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,879
Speaker 5: but also rest They were the worst team in rest

1454
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 5: disadvantage last year. They were a minus twenty two, which

1455
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 5: is brutal. Not even this year's worst teams are in

1456
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 5: the minus twenty categories. So not only were they banged

1457
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 5: up last year, but they also got saddled with a

1458
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 5: really difficult schedule from a rest perspective, which made the

1459
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 5: injuries even more important. I think San Francisco bounces back

1460
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 5: this year. They're favorite in fifteen games at of seventeen.

1461
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 5: I think this is going to be a year where

1462
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 5: we talk negatively about the contract and brock Purty, but

1463
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna play better than what they showed

1464
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 5: last year. And I think it's going to be a

1465
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 5: season for the Niners that maybe we're talking about, maybe

1466
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 5: not super Bowl run, but definitely postseason run.

1467
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 4: Well, the first part of this is I'm happy for Purdy,

1468
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 4: believe it or not, because listen, he's the last pick

1469
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 4: of the draft. He's played good football for multiple years,

1470
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: and he's made no money compared to other starting quarterbacks

1471
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 4: in the league, and now he gets his huge payday.

1472
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 4: So that's great for him. As far as the Niners,

1473
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 4: I hate this deal. It's terrible. Like you're paying a

1474
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,440
Speaker 4: good quarterback elite money and you're screwed as a franchise

1475
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 4: when you do that. That's just the way it works

1476
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 4: when you have to skimp at many other positions. They

1477
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 4: lost eight starters. When you have to skimp elsewhere on

1478
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: the roster and your quarterback isn't good enough to be

1479
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 4: a difference maker. To compensate for those deficiencies, You're gonna

1480
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 4: have a stunted growth. You're gonna have a limited ceiling.

1481
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lower ceiling. And that's the thing

1482
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 4: I disagree with rich where Like, why are we saying

1483
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 4: they're destined? If they said, we can't pay brock Purty

1484
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 4: this money. He's good, but he's not a difference maker.

1485
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 4: We can't pay him as if he is. There's no chance.

1486
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 4: There's no chance with the Kyle Shanahan system they find

1487
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 4: another brock party like player. There's there's zero chance. Why

1488
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: would I believe that at all? Like, you're not destined

1489
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 4: to be in the doul drums if you go Plan

1490
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 4: B and don't pay the guy and go with somebody new,

1491
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 4: Like that's that's not like these teams get freaked out

1492
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 4: and that's the nightmare scenario and that's all that they

1493
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 4: they shun. They just try to elude that, like, oh no,

1494
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: what if our worst nightmare comes true? It's like what

1495
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: if you I don't know, do like the Chiefs and

1496
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: you upgrade massively. You had Alex Smith, who is a

1497
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 4: brock Purty type where he was productive, not a difference maker,

1498
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 4: and the chief said, let's try to do better than that,

1499
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 4: and they did. So why would we believe that you

1500
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: can only go downward? I don't know why anybody believes that,

1501
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 4: but it's common belief. Oh, they're destined to suck. They

1502
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 4: Why would you believe that? Okay, so that's the They're

1503
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 4: only going to get Trey Lances from this point forward,

1504
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 4: that's it. Why would we believe that's the only way.

1505
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's easy. I'm saying it. You're not

1506
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 4: destined to go backwards like you're saying, you're not destined

1507
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 4: to do that. Sometimes you can't upgrade. And it comes

1508
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 4: back to like Bucky Brooks always says this, are you

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 4: a truck or are you a trailer? Brock Purty is

1510
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 4: a trailer. Brock Purty is not the truck pulling everybody

1511
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 4: with him. And you know he's a good quarterback, but

1512
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 4: he needs a great supporting cast around him to be

1513
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: real productive. And when you saw he didn't have that

1514
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 4: last season, they took a step back. And I think

1515
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 4: that's your future and we'll see it's a favorable schedule,

1516
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 4: they might have a good year but that's where I

1517
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 4: don't back up the Brinks truck. If that's your future,

1518
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 4: that's just not worth it to do that. We've got

1519
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: rich oron Berger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith, FSR

1520
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 4: betting analyst. I'm Brian know we gotta go, so Chris

1521
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 4: stops yelling at us, or we would keep going for

1522
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Speaker 4: the next hour. But prop it up. We've got a

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Speaker 1: Prop it up.

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Speaker 10: Player plays, Okay, The prop betting market a lot of angles,

1533
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 10: a lot of the directions you could go in, Jared,

1534
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 10: where you going today, buddy?

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Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna go with vaiting the teams that

1536
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 5: got screwed by the NFL rest schedule because it seemed

1537
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 5: to work last year. Again, if you faded the Niners,

1538
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 5: which is the worst team in the rest disadvantage last

1539
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 5: year in terms of the win totals, he came out

1540
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 5: smelling great. So I'll go Commanders under nine and a

1541
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 5: half wins. Again, they're favorite in twelve games, but they're

1542
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 5: facing a team off a by in three of the

1543
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 5: twelve games that they're favored in, and maybe a little

1544
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 5: sophomore sault for Jay and Daniels. We'll go over five

1545
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 5: and a half wins on the Saints. I mean, that

1546
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 5: just seems like easy pickings.

1547
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 3: I think even without the rest disadvantage.

1548
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 5: The Saints looked like number one pick potential this year.

1549
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 5: They might have the worst roster in the league, especially

1550
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 5: at quarterback and Raiders under six and a half wins.

1551
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 5: I hate to do it because I like the vibes

1552
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 5: here in Vegas, but terrible home field advantage, are only

1553
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 5: favorite in four games this year, and again a really.

1554
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 3: Bad rest disadvantage for veaguae this season.

1555
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with ok Ces guard Jaalen Williams under

1556
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 6: nineteen and a half points for my prop. You know, look,

1557
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 6: he's had an okay series, it hasn't been terrific, and

1558
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 6: he's hit under that line several times throughout the postseason.

1559
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 6: So I'll take the under there nineteen and a half points.

1560
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 6: Give me less on the jailing Williams prop.

1561
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 4: All right, I'm looking at you can still bet it

1562
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 4: these Aaron Gordon unders.

1563
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1564
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 4: With the Denver Nuggets got that hamstring issue?

1565
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: Why not?

1566
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 2: Right?

1567
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 4: Like, I think the worst case scenario is you're wrong,

1568
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 4: but I'll take that chance. The most likely worst case

1569
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 4: scenario is that he doesn't play at all and it's

1570
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 4: no action. But I'll take under eleven and a half points.

1571
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 2: Again.

1572
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 4: He scored five last time with two good hamstrings throughout

1573
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 4: most of that game. I'll give you another one if

1574
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 4: it's a no action bet. Let's go to the WNBA

1575
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 4: as he bagore, You're like, what under eight and a

1576
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 4: half rebounds? She plays for the Storm and she plays

1577
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 4: out or along the perimeter most of the time, so

1578
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 4: her rebounding props oftentimes go under. It's been a great

1579
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 4: parlay leg for me a lot of times. I'll take

1580
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,479
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Speaker 4: So the Nuggets at OKC Game seven tomorrow. They have

1594
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 4: the extra off day today. No NBA at all today?

1595
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 4: What are we gonna do with ourselves? I don't even know. Oh,

1596
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 4: I'll watch the WNBA, you know, I'm sure I'll pass

1597
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 4: the time somehow, But you know, I'll start scratching my neck,

1598
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 4: just like where's my NBA fix?

1599
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: You know?

1600
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 4: And it's not gonna be today, Gotta wait till tomorrow.

1601
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 4: But with Aaron Gordon, who's doubtful for the Nuggets. He's

1602
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 4: got a hamstring brain. If he tries to go, I

1603
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 4: don't know how much he's gonna be able to produce

1604
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 4: at all. Right now, it's still a lot of MGM.

1605
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 4: You can take the under on other and a half points,

1606
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 4: under five and a half rebounds. I mean, I think

1607
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 4: it's worth a shot in the dark to do.

1608
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1609
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 4: So the question becomes if Aaron Gordon, who's fresh off

1610
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 4: a five point outing, right, if he has another type

1611
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 4: of game and is hampered by this hamstring injury, what

1612
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 4: do Jokic and Jamal Aul Murray have to do to

1613
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 4: put the Nuggets in a position to win. If you

1614
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 4: go back to Game one of this series, there's a

1615
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 4: big upset win for the for the Nuggets on the road.

1616
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 4: They won by two points. And in that game, Jokic

1617
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 4: scored forty two points with twenty two rebounds and six assists.

1618
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 4: They won by two points. They won by two and

1619
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 4: by the way, Aaron Gordon had twenty two points and

1620
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: fourteen rebounds that game. That's a lot of production that

1621
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: they might not have at all. So are Jokicic and

1622
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 4: Murray do you think they're capable of against the team

1623
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 4: that has that much depth and plays real defense. Without

1624
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon, they're playing like six dudes as it is.

1625
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 4: If they don't have Aaron Gordon at full strength, you

1626
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 4: think Jokicic and Murray have enough to beat Okac on

1627
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 4: the road in the Game seven.

1628
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 6: You know, expanding the aperture to look at what's on

1629
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 6: the line here for Game seven, you look at Oka

1630
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 6: see obviously a dominant top seed out of the West,

1631
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 6: finished eight games above everyone else.

1632
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: Sixty eight wins this season.

1633
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 6: If they get knocked out in the second round of

1634
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 6: the NBA postseason, it's pretty soul crushing.

1635
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: It's pretty soul crushing.

1636
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 6: You know, this is a legacy making series for the Nuggets,

1637
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 6: and I understand that, but that's a tough pill to

1638
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 6: swallow when you've been as dominant of a team as

1639
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 6: the Thunder have been this season now also the youngest team,

1640
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 6: you know, And this is how things get built up

1641
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 6: in the NBA especially, you know, you sort of tear

1642
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 6: things down to the studs. You get a whole bunch

1643
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 6: of draft picks, you make some trades, you make some moves,

1644
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 6: you pick well in the draft, and then all of

1645
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 6: a sudden you have a young, deep team, and that's

1646
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 6: exactly what okay se has done now for the Nuggets

1647
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 6: after firing their head coach and general manager just a

1648
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 6: week before the playoffs began. This would be proof positive

1649
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 6: that that decision was the right one, you know. So

1650
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 6: there's some of that going on in the background of this.

1651
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 6: But also, you know, you mentioned the injury factor. When

1652
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 6: I say legacy making. You know, there are so many

1653
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 6: excuses for good teams who couldn't because of injury, right,

1654
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 6: you know, we will make that excuse for teams. It's like, hey,

1655
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 6: you know, good effort by t Mex. But if it

1656
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 6: weren't for that injury, they could have taken it further.

1657
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 6: If the Nuggets win in advance to the Western Conference Final,

1658
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 6: and this isn't their first rodeo, so they know what

1659
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 6: this looks like. We're gonna be talking about Yo Kitchen

1660
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 6: a very different light. You know, this is good. We're

1661
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 6: gonna be talking about the Nuggets Denver, the franchise is

1662
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 6: history in a very different light. So this is a

1663
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 6: huge Game seven we're looking forward to here. Can the

1664
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 6: Nuggets do it? The answer is yes, you know, and

1665
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 6: I mean it's because of those two names you mentioned,

1666
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 6: Murray and jokicch I mean, they have enough firepower, they've

1667
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 6: been here before. They can get it done. But don't

1668
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 6: sleep on it. Okay, See, I.

1669
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: Don't think anybody has and anybody.

1670
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 6: Would because of the regular season they have, how they've

1671
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 6: looked throughout the postseason. But but yeah, the Nuggets absolutely

1672
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 6: have a shot in this.

1673
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1674
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 5: I think it's Jokic. I mean he's just such an

1675
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 5: exceptional talent. I mean he can carry anyone and in

1676
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 5: the NBA right like or in basketball general as a

1677
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 5: sport because of there's not as many players on the

1678
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 5: court as a football game or even baseball, one player

1679
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 5: can really lift you. Like we've seen this before with

1680
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 5: Lebron and Steph Curry and those guys. I know they

1681
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 5: had great players around them. But if Jokic does do

1682
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 5: one of those forty twenty ten games, yeah, absolutely, Denver

1683
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 5: can win. When I looked at the Gordon numbers, like

1684
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 5: they're kind of baking in the injury right, Like his

1685
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 5: point total in the series was sixteen and a half,

1686
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 5: fifteen and a half, sixteen and a half, even seventeen

1687
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 5: and a half earlier in the series, So they are

1688
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 5: baking in some protection. It's not just here's the Gordon

1689
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 5: number over under this is what it's been the whole series. Obviously,

1690
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 5: that would be a flood of money to the under.

1691
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 5: They're making you decide how injured is he and how

1692
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: many minutes will he play? So it's I would say

1693
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 5: it's kind of a half bake number. Maybe I would

1694
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 5: say even three quarters baked, like the full injury, Like

1695
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 5: how much lower can you really go? Eleven and a

1696
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 5: half points at six buckets? It's really not a lot.

1697
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 4: Same thing with the reounds like Samson right, I love

1698
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 4: that movie.

1699
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite movies.

1700
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 5: Like the rebounding number right, Like it was seven and

1701
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 5: a half for a decent part of the series, six

1702
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 5: and a half, and he's had some big rebounding games

1703
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 5: in this series. He had a fourteen bagger, he had

1704
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 5: a sixteen bagger, so he can certainly get you some boards.

1705
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 5: My guess is pure speculation. He'll play. I just don't

1706
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 5: know how effective he'll be, how many minutes he'll play.

1707
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 5: I think that's what makes Christian Braun kind of the

1708
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 5: wild card.

1709
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 3: In this game.

1710
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 5: I really like his game period, and if he does

1711
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 5: get the extended minutes. Like, who's to say Christian Braun

1712
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 5: can't play the game of his life and give you

1713
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 5: fifteen points, eight rebounds, a couple of assists, hits a

1714
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 5: couple of threes. He's a big defensive spark as well,

1715
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 5: really good dunker, plays above the rim. I'm excited to

1716
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 5: see him play. But in general, I do think Oklahoma

1717
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 5: City's gonna win this game. I think they've been the

1718
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 5: best team in the NBA frankly all year. I think

1719
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 5: they deserve a chance at the Western Conference finals. I

1720
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 5: think they deserve to be in the NBA Finals. I

1721
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 5: think they've got the best defensive unit of all the

1722
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 5: teams left remaining. And that's gonna be the vibe for me,

1723
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 5: is can Oklahoma City's defense shut down Jokic and make

1724
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 5: Murray into a one dimensional scorer, take away the three

1725
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 5: point shot, and figure out a way to slow this

1726
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 5: game down. I'm curious what pace we play at right,

1727
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 5: Like faster pace I think favors Denver.

1728
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: Slower pace favors Oka. See would you agree, Brian.

1729
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, because it's just Denver's lack of depth.

1730
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 4: You know, like, you run the risk if you're playing

1731
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 4: higher tempo of Jokic's tongue just dragging on the floor.

1732
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 4: You know, that's the only thing that because the the thunder,

1733
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 4: they've got depth, they can you will go up temple. Okay, cool,

1734
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 4: they can do that. I just with Christian Brown. It's

1735
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: the rebounding numbers are really interesting in this series from him,

1736
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 4: because if you just said, hey, how's he been doing

1737
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 4: rebounding wise, you might say he's been good. I think

1738
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 4: it's not anything that really stands out. But Game one

1739
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 4: he had thirteen rebounds. He had another eleven rebound game

1740
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 4: in this series. Those are good numbers. Like when you're

1741
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 4: on the same court as Jokic and chet Holmgrin and

1742
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 4: Hertenstein are doing their thing on the glass. To have

1743
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 4: thirteen and eleven rebounds in two different games, that's really

1744
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 4: good for Christian Brown. So yeah, if Gordon is not

1745
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 4: getting even close to his normal minutes, I think Brown's

1746
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 4: rebounding number makes a lot of sense.

1747
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm so excited for this.

1748
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 6: You know, when you say this second best two words

1749
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 6: in all sports behind Super Bowl Game seven, I won

1750
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 6: one hundred percent agree. And especially when it's a game

1751
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 6: like this, like you know, you have a former NBA

1752
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 6: champion going up.

1753
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 2: Against the the the.

1754
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 6: Youngest upstart franchise in the sport with the highest upside,

1755
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 6: Like this is this is what it's supposed to be about.

1756
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 6: You know, I understand that Lebron is box office. Steph

1757
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 6: Curry obviously moves butts into seats two, and I know

1758
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 6: there are so many names attached to this league that

1759
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 6: are not being represented in this year's NBA postseason, But

1760
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 6: I love this storyline.

1761
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: I just love this storyline. The the you know, the.

1762
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 6: The savage, old wiley Vets who have been there and

1763
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 6: done it before, but they're doing it kind of leaderless

1764
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 6: because they they made a change at the top of

1765
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 6: the organization, getting rid of their head coach and their GM,

1766
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 6: like we were talking about just moments ago. And then

1767
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 6: you look at the other side, this being sort of

1768
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 6: the this motley crew of inexperienced players, not all inexperience,

1769
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 6: but some young team.

1770
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 2: I love this.

1771
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 6: I love this storyline, and I'm I'm almost grateful in

1772
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 6: some ways that we get a weekend day to digest

1773
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 6: before we go into this. You know, I I a

1774
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 6: missing my MBA. I am itching at it like you

1775
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 6: are too. beIN no, But I like the fact that

1776
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 6: there's a little I don't know. It feels like there's

1777
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 6: more pomp and circumstance about this round of the postseason

1778
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 6: season than we've seen in years past.

1779
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 2: And I like it.

1780
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 6: I dig it because it's going to attach you to

1781
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 6: the storyline moving forward. Yeah, I mean, will the Knicks

1782
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 6: beat the Pacers in the Eastern Conference Final? I'm not sure,

1783
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 6: but I can tell you I'm a lot more interested

1784
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 6: in the Eastern Conference Final than I would have been

1785
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 6: if it were the Celtics advancing. And that's not because

1786
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 6: I was I grew up in New York. Because I

1787
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 6: grew up in New York a Bulls fan. I was

1788
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 6: a trader to my family. I was a Jordan fan

1789
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 6: growing up.

1790
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: There.

1791
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 4: You go, that's even like a whole.

1792
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: This isn't even like a Homer selection here. But I

1793
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 2: think it's neat. I think it's a good storyline.

1794
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 6: And I feel similarly about either of the two who

1795
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 6: emerge from the West here and represent at least one

1796
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 6: portion of the Western Conference Final, because if it's okay,

1797
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 6: see well, then man, there they're gonna make believers out

1798
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 6: of a lot of people if they can push this

1799
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 6: thing into a final of sorts, whether it's a conference

1800
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 6: final or the NBA Final, And then if it's the Nuggets,

1801
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 6: there's a lot of there's gonna be a lot of

1802
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 6: people going to the window saying, man, I'll be damned,

1803
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 6: I hate to do it, but I'm gonna have to.

1804
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to take Denver to win it all

1805
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 6: because it just seems like the unstoppable force right now

1806
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 6: is coming back for more.

1807
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 3: M Yeah.

1808
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 5: I was thinking about this last night because again with

1809
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 5: the with the four teams, right, like we assume, okay,

1810
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 5: see being the fourth team if they win, their big

1811
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 5: favorite to win tomorrow, Like, we haven't seen a championship

1812
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 5: one by any of these four franchises, three of them

1813
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 5: never and then the Knicks. Obviously it's been forty years,

1814
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 5: but actually fifty couldn't this grace has been fifty years.

1815
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 3: Good lord.

1816
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 5: I was thinking about this though last night. Of like,

1817
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference is easy. The NBA, the executives, they

1818
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 5: want the Knicks and over the Pacers. I mean, that's

1819
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 5: an easy decision, ratings, biggest media market, the Knicks or

1820
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 5: the Knicks.

1821
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 3: But on the.

1822
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,759
Speaker 5: Western Conference, Halliburton, Yeah, I know, except for the Haliburton situation.

1823
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 5: That would be the only kind of flying the ointment

1824
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 5: to that. But I think it's John Halliburton.

1825
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 4: Do we get John Halliburton back court side? Now there's

1826
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 4: a story, huh.

1827
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 3: We might get the Haliburton dad court side.

1828
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 5: But in the Western Conference, Like, if you were the

1829
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 5: top media executive at the NBA and you could pick

1830
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 5: of the three teams left, Okay, see Denver, Minnesota, which

1831
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 5: team is the best for narrative ratings, all that you know,

1832
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 5: behind the scenes entertainment value for the finals?

1833
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know who you would pick.

1834
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 5: Like, I think all three media markets are relatively small, right,

1835
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 5: OKAC small, Denver small, Minneapolis is small, so there's no

1836
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 5: real media bias in terms of the population. You have

1837
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 5: Denver that's a prior champion, but a lot of people

1838
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 5: get fatigued off of the prior champions. And then you

1839
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 5: have Minnesota, who's now you got a face of the

1840
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 5: league and Anthony Edwards people love him, right, And then

1841
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,480
Speaker 5: obviously in Oka see very small media market but beloved

1842
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 5: fan base, and I would say the best team that

1843
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 5: we've seen this season top to bottom. But like SGA,

1844
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 5: I know he's gonna win MVP, but he's not here,

1845
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 5: not that star value. I think that Edwards and Jokic have. Like,

1846
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 5: if you're an NBA executive of the three Western Conference teams,

1847
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 5: who would you pick.

1848
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 4: It's a great question. I would say Oka. See, and

1849
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 4: my argument would be, you look at SGA. He's gonna

1850
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 4: be named MVP. I don't know why they haven't done

1851
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 4: it yet. Spruce up these matchups. Why don't you have

1852
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 4: him with his hardware? We know he's gonna win it.

1853
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,799
Speaker 4: I think Joki should win it. His best season ever

1854
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 4: and he's a three time MVP. I think he should

1855
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 4: be a four time MVP. But we know he's not

1856
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: going to win it. It's gonna be SGA name him. So

1857
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 4: like Game seven is even more intriguing, right, I don't

1858
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 4: know why they're waiting, but I would say OKAC because

1859
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 4: they had the best record in the league. They're a

1860
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 4: one seed. If they win a championship, all of a sudden,

1861
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 4: we're thinking, all right, this could be Goliath for a

1862
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: long time. That's intriguing going forward. Where if Minnesota wins it, Yeah,

1863
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, he's a superstar. He's a sellable guy. Right,

1864
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 4: you can promote him like crazy, but at the end

1865
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 4: of the day, they kind of feel like a sixth

1866
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 4: seed who got hot at the right time. Even if

1867
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 4: Minnesota wins it all, I don't think you're thinking, hey,

1868
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 4: this could be Goliath for the next three four years.

1869
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 4: And you would think that with Okac if they put

1870
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 4: it together. So I would say Oka. See the reason

1871
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 4: I don't say Jokic and Denver as great as Jokich is,

1872
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 4: he's not. He doesn't have a flashy style and that

1873
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,719
Speaker 4: sells right. You're not gonna see YouTube highlights of him

1874
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 4: dunking over three people. You might see an outstanding pass

1875
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 4: or two, but he just he doesn't have a flashy

1876
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 4: style of game, and that's what really sells in the NBA.

1877
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 4: And so him winning another title, it's it's nice, it's

1878
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 4: a good story. I don't think it gives you a

1879
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 4: whole lot of juice going forward to the next season

1880
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 4: as the league.

1881
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, listen, I I don't this. How can I

1882
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 6: say this without sounding like a hater.

1883
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to come off as a Joki hater,

1884
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 2: But I am. I am so not a fan of

1885
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 2: his game.

1886
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 6: I to me in in any in any iteration of

1887
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 6: the NBA.

1888
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 2: It doesn't excite me.

1889
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people refer to it as

1890
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 6: throwback I players who played the way Jokic did, or

1891
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 6: or should say does even back then, you know, whether

1892
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 6: it's nineties basketball even earlyer than that. I mean, they

1893
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 6: were never stunning, they were never show stopping. It never

1894
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,799
Speaker 6: it never it never slack jawed you because you're watching

1895
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 6: somebody do something otherworldly. It's just like a workman's approach

1896
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 6: to the game, which is fine, and it's effective. And

1897
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 6: he is a talented player and he does all of

1898
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 6: the things well. I mean, he's a good ball handler

1899
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 6: for a guy his size. He's an he has incredible

1900
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 6: court vision, so if you collapse on him, he'll find

1901
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 6: an open shooter. He's got a touch from range. I mean,

1902
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 6: Jo Kich can literally do it all. So I'm very

1903
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 6: impressed by Jo Kich. But part of my bias against

1904
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 6: the Nuggets going further in this NBA postseason is the

1905
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 6: fact that I just.

1906
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: Don't love the style.

1907
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 6: I love the style that Okay Okase he plays with,

1908
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 6: you know, in comparison, I can't stand the way the

1909
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 6: Nuggets look just he's just visually it's just it's not

1910
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 6: an appealing style basketball to me.

1911
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 4: It's you're not wrong, it's just personal preference going.

1912
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 5: Jared, No, I was gonna say, there's a TikTok account

1913
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 5: where they do a parody of Yokic and every game,

1914
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 5: every game they do a video and like it's like

1915
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 5: this guy dressing up. He puts like a little stocking

1916
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 5: over his head to make it look like he's Yokic,

1917
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 5: and he always like acts like he's going to his job.

1918
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 5: He's like, I work for the Denver branch of the NBA.

1919
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 5: I go to job today, and I'm not I do

1920
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 5: jobs so well that I have to do more job now.

1921
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 5: Like it's like a like it's like a running joke

1922
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 5: that he just like hates his job. And it's like

1923
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 5: he's like the office kind of vibe, doing like an

1924
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 5: interview at his like normal work. It's it's so funny

1925
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 5: because it's such a great parody because he's just like

1926
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 5: I could care less, Like I just want to go

1927
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 5: home to horses. Like it's very it's it's kind of

1928
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 5: very apropos to what Rich is alluding to, because you

1929
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 5: would never hear shi Gilzers Alexander, Like remember last year

1930
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 5: Brian when the Thunder did those interviews after the games

1931
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 5: and they were all be together and they all be like,

1932
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 5: they're very likable, they're very marketable, whereas Jokich is. It's

1933
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 5: just maybe it's the attitude, but it's just it's a

1934
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 5: different vibe.

1935
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 4: Hey, you're right. He just he doesn't care about the limelight.

1936
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,839
Speaker 4: And it's halfway refreshing, but it doesn't sell the same way, correct,

1937
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 4: you know. I love his approach where he's like, he's

1938
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 4: not campaigning to win another MVP. He can easily be like,

1939
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 4: I averaged a triple double? Are you kidding me?

1940
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: Right now?

1941
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 4: He could campaign for him, So he just doesn't care.

1942
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 4: He doesn't care, And I think it's cool that he's

1943
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 4: just all about winning. He's not about getting his individual shine.

1944
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 4: But it isn't marketable, Like, hey, this guy doesn't care.

1945
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,879
Speaker 5: Watches like anti NBA Like it's the opposite of every

1946
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 5: NBA star we've ever seen.

1947
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Here.

1948
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,799
Speaker 4: Let me say real fast to what Rich was talking about,

1949
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,680
Speaker 4: and you're not wrong. Hey, listen, if you don't like tomatoes,

1950
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 4: my sister doesn't like tomatoes. I don't know how we're related.

1951
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 4: Tomatoes are delicious, but it's her personal preference. You know,

1952
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say she's wrong. She just doesn't like him,

1953
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 4: you know. So you don't have to like Yokic's style

1954
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 4: or the Nuggets style. I would just say this, and

1955
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 4: this might help, all right. I think of this like

1956
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 4: college basketball. If you're wanting March madness to be the

1957
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 4: quality of the NBA, whether it's like shot making or

1958
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 4: just overall athleticism, or you're gonna be disappointed because that's

1959
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 4: not what it is, you know. So the same thing

1960
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 4: holds true for Jokic and the Nuggets. I think if

1961
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 4: you're wanting the normal razzle, dazzle athleticism, you're always going

1962
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 4: to be let down if you look at it more like,

1963
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 4: how is this freaking guy this productive with what he

1964
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 4: has to work with? How he looks like the last

1965
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 4: pick at the why? And he's a three time MVP

1966
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 4: Like you mentioned it, Rich and you see some of

1967
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 4: it is court vision is second to none. His passing

1968
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 4: ability is unbelievable. And if you just look at his

1969
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 4: like slow, I say he's like a puncher in boxing.

1970
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: Is really what he is. His mind works so fast.

1971
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 4: He's so slow as a player, but his mind is

1972
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 4: at warp speed because just like Mayweather would make his money, like,

1973
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 4: you throw a punch, that was a mistake, but boom,

1974
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 4: you know it's one two and you didn't see that coming.

1975
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 4: That's what Jokic does. Just watch him tomorrow when he

1976
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,759
Speaker 4: does his weird moves in the lane and he's waiting

1977
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 4: for the defender to make a move and do something.

1978
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 4: He lunges to his right and Yokic is like, oh,

1979
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 4: that was a mistake. I'm gonna hit you with this.

1980
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 4: He always has a counter punch to whatever you throw

1981
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 4: at him, and it's so interesting to watch his style

1982
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 4: of play when you think of it like that. But yeah,

1983
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 4: if you're winning Anthony Edwards dunking on three people, that's

1984
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 4: not what Jokicic is ever gonna be and you're always

1985
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 4: gonna be disappointed. But I hear what you're saying, Matt.

1986
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 4: I just hope tomorrow isn't like last night. Yeah right,

1987
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 4: where the Knicks just put it on the Celtics. I

1988
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 4: hope we get a dramatic game seven. It's close because

1989
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 4: it has the potential to be beat down city. It

1990
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 4: really does, because Okasee has not hit their stride and

1991
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 4: with that depth and with Denver shorthanded. It's gonna be tough.

1992
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough for Denver tomorrow night. But we'll see.

1993
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 4: All right, Uh, real fast, We've got the tire rack

1994
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 4: play of the day. Let's do this the next thing to.

1995
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 2: Continue to remain steady and execute smartly.

1996
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 11: Step back left wing three for Brunston nails it over

1997
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 11: Brown thirty one point, Nick Lee time out, Joe Mizzoula

1998
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 11: and just what you wanted to see, Payne gets the

1999
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 11: rebound with the shot clock turned off. If you want

2000
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 11: to knock off the champions, you have to play like champions.

2001
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 11: And the Knicks did that tonight a one nineteen eighty

2002
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 11: one way and the outcome that no one in the

2003
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 11: NBA saw coming aside from the New York Knicks themselves.

2004
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 4: Yes there's the the Knicks Radio network. No one saw it, Nobody,

2005
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 4: just the Knicks. Only the Knicks believe and could see this.

2006
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. They could not be more not nauseating.

2007
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 4: I swear I want to be happy for them, and

2008
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 4: I can't. They prevent me from being happy for them

2009
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 4: by their ways. For over forty years, this diatribe wal

2010
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to read something For over forty years, ty

2011
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Speaker 4: buying should be all right, We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn

2016
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Speaker 4: State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian

2017
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Speaker 4: No coming up next. Is the fix in? Or is

2018
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Speaker 4: it just the bad logic? Is in? It's Fox Sports

2019
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2020
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2021
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2023
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2026
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Speaker 4: show posted right after we get off the year. Okay,

2027
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 4: so this week it was very popular to say fix

2028
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 4: it's fixed. The fixes in the NBA draft lottery went

2029
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 4: down this week and somehow, some way, the Dallas Mavericks

2030
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,839
Speaker 4: after trading Luka Doncic. They have the number one overall

2031
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 4: pick and they're gonna take Cooper Flag And they only

2032
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 4: had a one point eight percent chance to get the

2033
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 4: number one pick. They got it. They vaulted ten spots.

2034
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 4: That's the biggest move ever in the history of the

2035
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 4: NBA Draft lottery. So a lot of people think the

2036
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 4: fix is in. This is my thing. How would the

2037
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 4: conspiracy work?

2038
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 2: Right?

2039
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: Like?

2040
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 4: Is Adam Silver the architect of the NBA matrix? Is

2041
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 4: this like the Hunger Games where they could all of

2042
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 4: a sudden just like superimposal Werewolf or whatever they want?

2043
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2044
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 4: Like, who does Adam Silver work for? He works for

2045
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 4: all the owners. Do you think all the owners would

2046
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 4: be in favor of Dallas winning the lottery? You think

2047
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 4: they're all just like, yeah, Cooper Flagg the Dallas, that's

2048
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 4: cool with me. No, there's no way, like how for

2049
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 4: anybody that's like, you can't convince me there's no con

2050
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 4: that around for anyone screaming conspiracy, Please explain how that

2051
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 4: would work? How would it work? And any explanation you

2052
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 4: come up with is gonna sound like the dumbest thing ever.

2053
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 4: That's why I don't think there's any conspiracy at all

2054
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 4: at all is random. Yeah, it seems so random that

2055
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 4: it borders on a conspiracy. That doesn't mean there is one,

2056
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 4: because it wouldn't work. And you realize if that's ever

2057
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 4: found out. Let's just say you're doing some NBA matrix

2058
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 4: type stuff with Adam Silver. If that's ever ever found

2059
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 4: do you think they would take a chance. They're talking

2060
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 4: hard jail time, you know, like federal crimes. It's like

2061
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 4: people think this happens way more often than it does.

2062
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 4: I don't know that it ever does. This is not

2063
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 4: an example of a conspiracy. It's just a theory.

2064
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 6: I'm I'm gonna say, I'm ninety percent of the way.

2065
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 6: They're with you because unfortunately, in our lifetimes, there have

2066
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 6: been certain conspiracy theories that have been proven as factual.

2067
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 6: You know, things that over the course of time, whether

2068
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 6: it be historic or political events, or you know, theories

2069
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:34,520
Speaker 6: even outside of anything that impacts us from a social standpoint.

2070
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,520
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes it's even scientific theories are proven factual.

2071
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:44,600
Speaker 6: I mean, and by the way, oftentimes the opposite occurs. Oftentimes,

2072
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 6: you know, something that is theorized is debunked and and

2073
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 6: you know, can be ruled out of the conversation altogether.

2074
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 6: Do I want to rule this out of the conversation altogether?

2075
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: I do.

2076
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 6: I'm more with you than I'm against you, Brian, because

2077
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 6: I really don't want to live in a world where

2078
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 6: these sports entertainment properties, you know, including one that I

2079
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 6: played for the NFL, could be involved in anything like this,

2080
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,799
Speaker 6: because it really does it really, it really chips away at,

2081
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 6: you know, the trust in something that's foundational for a

2082
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 6: lot of us, Like what was I tak growing up

2083
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 6: that sports is an ultimate meritocracy that if you want

2084
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 6: a fair and balanced playing field to really see if

2085
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 6: the cream does rise to the top, we'll go and

2086
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 6: play a sport and and compare your wits to the

2087
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 6: rest of the teams out there. And you know, some

2088
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 6: teams are gonna have better leaderships, some teams are gonna

2089
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 6: have better players.

2090
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 2: And those are the breaks.

2091
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 6: You know, Sometimes you're gonna be the top dog on

2092
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 6: the yard, and then you know your one injury away

2093
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 6: from being you know, taken down a pegger two And

2094
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 6: those are the breaks you know, to have it, to

2095
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 6: have it all of a sudden be revealed if ever,

2096
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 6: at some point that a league was conspiring to make

2097
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 6: sure that certain markets, certain teams had an unfair advantage.

2098
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 2: It would make me sick, it would, it would It

2099
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 2: would ruin sports for me for a long time. So

2100
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: I hope you're wrong.

2101
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 6: However, however, man, oh man, when you start, when you

2102
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 6: start seeing how things have lined up for certain teams

2103
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 6: in certain markets over the years, I mean, for this

2104
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 6: to happen, I mean, it's almost like out in front

2105
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 6: of your face. It's like, you know, all of your

2106
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 6: buddies are telling you, nah, I saw Janey.

2107
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: She was running around with another guy, and you're like, no,

2108
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 2: not my Jenny.

2109
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 3: Nah, I'm pretty sure with your Jen.

2110
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 6: Well no, no, no, that couldn't have been her, because

2111
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 6: she told me she was with her friends.

2112
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, did she mention which ones?

2113
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 6: Because it looked like it was some of her guy

2114
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 6: friends and one of them she was getting awfully close with. No,

2115
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 6: not my Jenny. All of a sudden, you start getting

2116
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 6: picture text proving it. Just it feels it's like, man,

2117
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 6: sometimes sometimes you are the patsy. Sometimes you are the

2118
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 6: one being, you know, having the wol pulled over your eyes.

2119
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 6: I hope, Brian, that you're right. I hope that we're not.

2120
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 6: But boy, oh boy, this one is man. The Dallas

2121
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 6: Mavericks had a one percent chance of getting that lottery ball, and.

2122
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: They got it. Come on, what are we doing here?

2123
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 5: Okay, let me first preface this take by saying, I

2124
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 5: do not believe sports are rigged. The NFL is not rigged.

2125
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 5: The outcomes of the games are not rigged. I feel

2126
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 5: the same about ninety nine percent of sports. Some of

2127
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 5: the European South American soccer matches, maybe some funny business

2128
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 5: going on at the lesser levels, but obviously North American

2129
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 5: major sports.

2130
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 3: I do not feel that there is.

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Speaker 5: A predetermined outcome for any of the games that are

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Speaker 5: taking place. However, there are some things that are curious. Right,

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Speaker 5: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame

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Speaker 5: on me. How about fool me three times? Here we go,

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01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 5: as Kevin Bacon said, and a few good men. These

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01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 5: are the facts of the case, and they are undisputed.

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01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 5: In twenty eleven, Chris Paul was traded from the New

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Speaker 5: Orleans Pelicans to the Los Angeles Clippers. Pelicans got the

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Speaker 5: number one pick the following year. In twenty nineteen, Anthony

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01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 5: Davis traded from the New Orleans Pelicans to the LA Lakers.

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01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 5: Following year, Pelicans got the number one pick. Twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: Luka Doncik traded from the Dallas Mavericks to the LA Lakers,

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Speaker 5: and then Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Gets the number one pick the following year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's three times.

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Speaker 4: Why don't we have the Blazers after Damian Lillard was gone?

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Speaker 4: Why don't they have the number one pick?

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01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's happened every time, but in the

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01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 5: last fourteen years, it's happened three times. Also, Lebron James

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01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 5: gets traded all of a sudden, Kyrie Irving's number one

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01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 5: pick in Cleveland the next year. It seems like it

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01:49:56,680 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 5: has happened enough for me to at least question the

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01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 5: lottery process. I'm not gonna say that it's rigged, but

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01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 5: this three times in the last fourteen years, if it's

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01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 5: not rigged, it's getting really hard to defend what's happened.

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Speaker 3: Like, I can't explain that.

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,799
Speaker 5: I can't explain that three times in the last fourteen years,

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Speaker 5: long shots have won the NBA lottery the year after

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01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 5: they traded away their best player. How do you explain

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01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 5: that all three are just coincidence?

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01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 4: It's a lottery. That's how you explained it. Yes, it's

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01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 4: a freaking lottery. How do you make sense out of

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01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 4: a lottery? Random stuff? That's the basis of a lottery,

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Speaker 4: is it's random. It's totally random, but.

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Speaker 3: It's very like specifically random.

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01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 5: Like it Well, it'd be one thing for that to

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Speaker 5: happen once in twenty years.

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Speaker 3: It's happened three times in the last fourteen years.

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Speaker 5: And ironically enough, all three times it's happened, it's been

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01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 5: LA teams that had been involved.

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Speaker 3: In the trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it I look, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I just like there's there's a far cry between weird.

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Speaker 4: It's certainly weird.

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01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 3: You're right, and I'm not going there again.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's rigged, but I'm saying it's hard

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Speaker 5: to defend.

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Speaker 6: It's like we're on the same side of this, I

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01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 6: and Brian. We are because Jared, you let it off

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01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 6: where where you said I don't believe the NBA is rigged.

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Speaker 6: I let it off Brian by saying, man, oh man,

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01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 6: I hope we never find out because I don't want

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Speaker 6: to live in a world where the NBA is rigged.

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Speaker 2: But there is an ellipses at I know you guys didn't.

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01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's here, that's all we're saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just go back to how.

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Speaker 2: Would it work.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that all the owners who like again,

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01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 4: if it's rigged, they know about it, and they know

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01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 4: about the latest rigging they know about Hey, Cooper, Flag's

2192
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 4: going to Dallas. Do you think they all would have

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01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 4: poker faces the whole time? There's no right it would

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01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 4: be out. I agree with it's so competitive.

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01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:07,799
Speaker 3: That's why the Aliens thing bothered.

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01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 5: By now, we would have seen some guy with a

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01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 5: smartphone record Aliens because everyone you know, like someone would

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Speaker 5: have leaked it.

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Speaker 4: By now, we need MythBusters for sports conspiracy. They could

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01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 4: just do this on a weekly basis. Hey, super Bowl

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01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 4: forty seven, the lights went out? Is it a conspiracy?

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01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 4: And then they just break it down. You know, we

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01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 4: need it for the NBA Draft lottery.

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01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 5: Brian in fourteen years, short period of time.

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Speaker 3: For that and three times.

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01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 4: I know it's weird. It's certainly weird, But for anyone

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01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 4: saying it's weird to the point where it's absolutely rigged,

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01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 4: explain how it's rigged. I agree, And that's why I'm

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01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 4: not what's explanation.

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01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 3: It's just it's hard to defend.

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01:52:56,200 --> 01:53:00,120
Speaker 4: It's just so random, man, it is. You could you

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01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 4: could play how many things in sports have been so random?

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01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 4: Like was Tom Brady rigged? Tom Brady is rigged? You

2214
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 4: know the NFL was rigged, so Tom Brady could be

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01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 4: the goat. No, but that's it's random and it happened Tom.

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01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 4: I know, but you talk about that's one of the

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01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 4: most random things that ever happened in sports history. Just

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01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 4: because it's random doesn't mean it's rigged.

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01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:23,719
Speaker 3: I agree.

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01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 5: But that the random occurrence is happening multiple times in

2221
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 5: a short time window is the is the weird part.

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 5: Not that it happened once that's not random, or that

2223
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 5: excers me, that's not weird. The fact that it's happened

2224
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 5: multiple times in a very short time window is the

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01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 5: part that I can't wrap my head around.

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01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the movie Two Guns. It's really good.

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01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 4: It's with Denzel Washington and Mark Wahlberg. I encourage you,

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01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 4: it's pretty good movie.

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01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 2: I will, but I like both.

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01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 4: I think it's that movie where where Denzel will say,

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01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 4: you're saying that to say what? Right, You're saying that

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01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 4: to say what? And that's where I'm at with this

2233
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 4: whole lottery conversation. We're sure it's weird. It's like, man,

2234
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 4: it's odd that it's happened. Okay, you're saying that to

2235
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 4: say what and it's like, if the what is I'm

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01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:16,440
Speaker 4: just saying it's really weird. It's just that.

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01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 5: It's e It would be easier to rig the lottery

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01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 5: than a game. Rigging games, I'm way, because you need

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01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 5: too many people to be on board with it, But

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Speaker 5: rigging the lottery is like kind of.

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Speaker 4: A different I don't know, man, you know, I don't know,

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01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 4: because again, the owners would know about it. And though

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01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 4: some of these outspoken owners, yeah, if it's a conspiracy

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01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 4: and it's rigged, and they would know they've benefited at times,

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01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 4: so they know, okay, this is the latest installment of

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01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 4: something being rigged. They would have some type of insight

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01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 4: in what if it.

2248
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 5: Was just an under the table deal between the Mavericks,

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01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 5: the Lakers, and Adam Silver, And what if the trade

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01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 5: was going on and Adam Silver stepped in and say,

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01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 5: if you guys make this trade and send the best

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01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 5: player right now, Luca to the number one franchise, the Lakers,

2253
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 5: We'll give you the number one pick next year you

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 5: get Cooper Flag and then they're.

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Speaker 4: Like, there is no world where Adam Silver would make

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01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 4: a gamble that big with the the the consequences being

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 4: that severe.

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01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 5: Not my can no way, not not not not my

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01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 5: janis That's what Rich said.

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01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 2: No, we couldn't.

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01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 5: She never never never never. I'm just playing Devil's advocate.

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01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 5: Adams's so random.

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01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Adams, Adam Silver, You're gonna go to jail

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01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 4: for the rest of your freaking life if you want

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01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 4: to orchestraight Cooper Flag going to Dallas. Yeah, that's the

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01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 4: bet he's gonna make.

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Speaker 3: Really a mile but stream jail.

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Speaker 4: Oh he would be done to row crimes. Oh, no chance,

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01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 4: zero chance, zero chits.

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I'm zero zero after the last three

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01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 5: these three, I'm above zero.

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Speaker 3: I might get like one percent, it's right, maybe one

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01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 3: and a half. Rich pretty hot.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Jared, we start with you with something.

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01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be quick. Jayalen Williams over four and a half.

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01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 2: Assis.

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01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 5: I gave this out during the parlay platter. He's coming

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01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 5: off a TENNISS game. I love the dimes for J.

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Speaker 2: Dubbs.

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Speaker 3: He's been fantastic, averaging over five and a half.

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01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 2: In the series.

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01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 5: We'll go over in the Nuggets Thunder game. I know

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01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 5: Game seven vibes say under, but we've seen this total

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01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 5: b from two twenty nine, two thirty two. Dip the

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01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 5: two eighteen and a half in Game six that game

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01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 5: went over. I think two thirteen and a half is

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01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 5: too low, so I'll go over two thirteen and a

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01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 5: half Nuggets Thunder, but we're gonna go.

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01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 3: Under on Sunday for Game seven.

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01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 5: Panthers leaves NHL Game seven unders have been fantastic. They

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01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 5: went four and oh last year, zero to two this

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01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 5: year on two really tough feats. But I think this

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01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 5: one between the Panthers and the Leafs will stay under

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01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 5: the total of five and a half.

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Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna go to the NBA first and

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01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 6: finish in Major League Baseball Denver plus seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Against OKC tomorrow. I think this is gonna.

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Speaker 6: Be a close game, and if it's close, I think

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01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 6: we're gonna be under the total. So give me Nuggets

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01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 6: thunder under two twelve and a half. Then to the

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Speaker 6: MLB we go, Padres Mariners. The Better Cup happening in

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Speaker 6: San Diego. The run totals eight and a half for today,

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Speaker 6: give me over eight.

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01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 2: And a half runs.

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01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 6: Been some pretty outstanding offensive performances lately from the Friars,

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01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 6: and Mariners can put up some runs. We saw that yesterday,

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01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 6: So give me over the eight and a half run total.

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01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 4: Alrighty, I'm gonna go with Christian Brown over six and

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01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 4: a half rebounds. Give me Aaron Gordon under eleven and

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01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 4: a half points. I'm just worried that he doesn't play

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01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 4: and it's no action, and then well I'll just have

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01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 4: four picks next week if that happens. You know, let's

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Speaker 4: just go with that.

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 4: I'll go with Alysa Thomas. I think with the with Phoenix,

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01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take over eight and a half rebounds for

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01:59:56,240 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 4: her Seattle, you know, not an hour standing rebounding team.

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Speaker 4: Mag Pigore I talked about her earlier plays along the perimeter,

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Speaker 4: So I'll take a list of Thomas over eight and

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Speaker 4: a half rebounds. Wnba is back.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: We just need the NFL back, and we're fully set.