1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Box Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR boom Up America 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: single day in this case from really, really sunny and 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin. Plus you got Sherman Oaks, California 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: together on this joyd It's great, man, We're happy to 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: have you. Just are Okay, Let's let's get after it. 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think we have a little bit of 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: clarity on the Brown situation. I'm not sure the path 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: to where they got to makes a ton of sense. 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: You know. 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: It's like we didn't really get a chance to dig 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: in on what Kenny Pickett is. I'm not sure I 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: understand why they signed Kenny Pickett. If we're gonna go 20 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: with no one got a real shot, it'd be Kenny Pickett. 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: But regardless, Kenny Pickett is now a backup for the Raiders, 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: and the Browns have clarity. The clarity is that Joe 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: Flacco is a Super Bowl champion quarterback, granted long in 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: the tooth, is gonna be the starter, and then at 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: some point in time, my guess is both Dylan Gabriel 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: and Shador Sanders will get an opportunity. I think the 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: issue is that while there is clarity, there's still a 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: ton of noise as to the order of and the 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: fairness of who gets what, when, where, why, how. But 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: despite that, I actually kind of get what theros seem 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: to be trying to do. They know they're not great, 32 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: they might not even be good. Flacco gives them a 33 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: chance to be just solid at quarterback. He's taken them 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: to the playoffs before no reason. Remember, they still have 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson under contract for a couple more years now, 36 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: likely won't play this year coming off to achilles injuries, 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: but still there they're trying to find They're actually sort 38 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: of going through the process of trying to find a 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: quarterback in one of the two ways in which teams 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: have been really successful when they haven't had an elite 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: quarterback they draft those two ways are somebody else's former quarterback. 42 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, obviously this is not the financial level to 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: a Baker Mayfield, a Sam Darnold, a Gino Smith, but 44 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: it's still the same idea a guy who has and 45 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: no one has seen it or done it more or 46 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: at a higher level than Flacco of those guys. Rams 47 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: have Garoppolo as their stopgap. Finding a guy who has 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: experience and some success in the league at a discount 49 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: rate is a value. And then the other type of 50 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: real value quarterback is a young quarterback who's a third, fourth, fifth, 51 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: sixth round guy or maybe even mister irrelevant, who you 52 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: actually are not allowed to pay them big money until 53 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: like their fourth or fifth year. That's what the Niners did. Now. 54 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is where they wanted to 55 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: get to. My guess is this is a stopgap year. 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Next year with two first round draft picks, they want 57 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: to be drafting a quarterback in the first round, That's 58 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: my guess. But in the meantime, you take a swing 59 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: at a Flaco and you see what he can do, 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and if not, you take a swing at some of 61 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: these young guys and see what they can do, but 62 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: you have I have to be willing to know this 63 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: is short term. I got to figure out something long term, 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: and generally a high first round draft pick it has 65 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: a greater likelihood of success. It's really easy to be 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: critical of the Browns. It is I would love to 67 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: know the real reason that they circle back to drafting Shador. 68 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: My guess is the owner encouraged them to do it, 69 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: or even told them to do it, just just I'd 70 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: love to know the process. But you also have to 71 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: take into context that much like when I go get 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: a haircut, I tell the barber, sorry, man, I'm not 73 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: giving you a blank canvas. Do the best you can 74 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: with what I got. And that's what they're doing in Cleveland. 75 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Whatever you thought of the Deshaun Watson deal, that was 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: mostly the owner and I'm not sure sure you could 77 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: have foreseen how disappointing his performance has been and the 78 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: two Achilles Tenant injuries. Right, Okay, So it's really easy 79 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: for us to say, hey, you know, why didn't they 80 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: just draft a guy, or hey, why didn't they do this, 81 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: or hey, we don't realize they were they're cash strapped 82 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: and salary cast strapped at the position because Desaun Watson 83 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: is still under contract and they redid his deal in 84 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: the offseason. So if you still have Deshaun Watson there 85 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: and you only had first round pick and you have 86 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: two first round draft picks next year, you got Okay, 87 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: how do I get to next year? Will giving myself 88 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the best chance to succeed this year, and then also 89 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: maybe I find a young quarterback w I don't have 90 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: to pay anything to, who can man my ship for 91 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: the year for a couple of years, and maybe I 92 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: can trade that first round draft pick even Taiwan if 93 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: I find my guy. But I promise you this, if 94 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: you really are a Shador Sanders fan, say nothing, tweet nothing, 95 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: act as if nothing has happened, nothing has changed, and 96 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: just wait. And if he's good enough and he performs 97 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: well enough, he'll be the guy for at the end 98 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: of the year and for years to come. And if 99 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: he's not, he won't. But the more discussion there is, 100 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: the more attitude there is, the more the calls for 101 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: him to play and fairness and people throwing out the 102 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: idea that there's racism involved. All this craziness you see 103 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: online from from people who bring in some emotional bias 104 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: to some other event that doesn't matter to Kevin Stepancy. 105 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: He wants to win. And if he's not in a win, 106 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: if he doesn't believe he has a winning team, he's 107 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: got to have one that's positioned for the future. And 108 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who's drafted outside the outside of the 109 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: second round or in his case, outside of the top 110 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: four rounds, you're gonna be able to pay him nothing 111 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and then build a team around him. I think that'd 112 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: be a great goal that that's, by the way, why 113 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it's insane the people who say that Stefanski was trying 114 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: to sabotage Shador. He'd loves Shador to work out what 115 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: he can't do. And what I couldn't do, what coaches 116 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: can't do, is you can't put up with all this 117 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: nonsense chatterover either he's good enough for he's not good enough. 118 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: That's it. And if you watched the last game, if 119 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: you thought he was better, he thought he was a 120 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: better quarterback then the other two that are ahead of him, 121 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: then you just carried in the bias of I'm a 122 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Shador fan. You didn't watch, doesn't mean they are better 123 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: than him. But Dylan Gabriel has played better than Shador 124 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Sanders in his two preseis games, and Joe Flacco is 125 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: more accomplished, is better, was completely at peace and got 126 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: the reps that he needed. Got the reps all right. 127 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: Coming up with the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox 128 00:07:51,560 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was looking at this earlier today. That's interesting. 129 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: We gotta we have we do have this. We got 130 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: King Graffy Junior and Senior, right, gonna join us a 131 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: little later on the show. Yeah, they're gonna join us 132 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes, King Griffy Junior and King Graffy Senior 133 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: together gonna join this in the show. 134 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: This is the best of the Don dot Leaf Show 135 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. 136 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: What happens to Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. You 137 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: know you're in the Doug Gottlieb Show. We like to 138 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: talk about sports. But when you say sports is like 139 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: you tell people what's your show about? Like, I don't 140 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: know sports ish. Here's what we mean. This is from 141 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk YouTube in Fox Face the termination of 142 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: the agreement on August twenty seventh. August twenty seventh, that's 143 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow and tomorrow, by the way, like Oklahoma State plays tomorrow. 144 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I think we know it's stay Tuesday. What day is today? 145 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Got them? So today's Tuesday, so they play, So tomorrow 146 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: is the day, but the games start Thursday. So interesting timing, right, 147 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: interesting timing. Interesting. Here's the quote from you to TV. 148 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: If we're able to reach an agreement with Fox by 149 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: August twenty seven, twenty twenty five, their content. If we're 150 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: unable to reach an agreement, their content may become unavailable. 151 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: If this happens, it will impact channels like Fox Broadcast Network, 152 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: Fox News, Fox Sports, as well as any library recordings 153 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: you have from these channels. Right, so if you've recorded 154 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: any of these that could go away as well. If 155 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: the channel is not available for extending period of time, 156 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: subscribers will receive a ten dollars credit. Extended is not defined. Okay, 157 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: So remember Fox won't have NFL games until September seventh, 158 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: so they got some time. But the college games is 159 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: a really big part of the platform, especially you got 160 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: what Ohios Date Texas and Big Neon Kickoff that's Saturday 161 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: at noon. Fox doesn't have a big platform national NFL 162 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: game until Week two. That's when the Chiefs host the Eagles. 163 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be done by then. This does feel 164 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: like every year on repeat. I'll take you back. You know, 165 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: we had Mark Shapiro on the show last week. Mark 166 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: now runs the companies that own UFC and WWE. And 167 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: you know when Mark was at ESPN, they used to say, 168 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: you're not never allowed to say the word a la carte. 169 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's three words, can't say any 170 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: of them a la carte. And back then the cable 171 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: bundle was everything. ESPN had over one hundre million subscribers. 172 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: They're charging over six dollars a subscription. That's six billion 173 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: dollars made before any ad was sold. Those were the 174 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: glory days. Now they have in the sixties, they're charging 175 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think it's like eight dollars. 176 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: But you do the math. You can't overcome the law 177 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: that loss of subscribers and get you back to the 178 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: level of six billion or eight billion or whatever billion dollars. 179 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: Right. 180 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: So we have these streaming companies and how many streaming services. 181 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: We joke with Ilo about how he bootlegs them. Jace, 182 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: do how many streaming companies do you employ? 183 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: Just all of them, all the majors, you know, I 184 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 5: don't know, Hulu and Netflix and Prime YouTube TV, all 185 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: the majors. 186 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Really, Peacock, Copple TV, pea Couple, TV App, Peacock, Paramount. 187 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 6: MGM plus Rare Amount plus HBO Max. 188 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 5: No. 189 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 6: Our point we're getting at here is this is ridiculous. 190 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 6: This is ridiculous, Doug. 191 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: No, I I know it is. I know it's ridiculous. 192 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: My question is you pay for all of those? 193 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: I do? 194 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what's your monthly TV cable bill? 195 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 5: I haven't looked recently, but I mean, just doing the 196 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 5: quick math in my head, maybe what two fifty three hundred? 197 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 198 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: That's what I wanted to bring up because for the 199 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: average intensive sports fan, who let's say, for the average 200 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 4: Fox Sports radio listener, an intentional sports fan, is the 201 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: combined amount of all their subscriptions, How does that compare 202 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: with maybe what their cable bill was, say five years ago, 203 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: when it was a different landscape. 204 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: It's gotta be higher, right, Yeah. 205 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 6: YouTube TV started in twenty seventeen. February of twenty seventeen, 206 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: it was thirty five dollars a month. It's now eighty 207 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 6: three dollars a month. WHOA, so I pay for YouTube TV? 208 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 6: I don't buy all the service, as I'm joking, but 209 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 6: if you buy YouTube TV, that's eighty three. I do Peacock, 210 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: which is now gonna be thirteen a month, so you know, 211 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 6: you're almost at one hundred there, and then I do 212 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 6: let's say I do Amazon Prime, that's what's seventeen a month, 213 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 6: I do Peacock, and I do Netflix. 214 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: I will say this, Sam Lot, you do have to 215 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,359 Speaker 4: change your password to something more complicated than go Hawkeyes 216 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: across the board. 217 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 6: Oh okay, I will, Isaac, but I'll let you know 218 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 6: when I change it so you can keep using my service. 219 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna I'm gonna say a word that I 220 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: think you guys know, but it's a bad word in 221 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: TV streaming. Anybody have a friend with the jail breaker? 222 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 5: I actually have heard of that is that. 223 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's always called a jailbreak. Everybody's 224 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: a different name for it. But there are these you 225 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: can buy these like little boxes connected to your TV 226 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: and literally get every channel, every streaming, every event, everything. 227 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 6: That sounds like some early nineties technology, Like there is 228 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 6: somebody working in the cable industry and they're like, yeah, 229 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 6: hook you up, give me one hundred and fifty on 230 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: the side. 231 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get it. You get everything. You get everything, everything, 232 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: everything and things you don't want. Well, we don't have 233 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: that worthing. But I don't have that. I'll tell you 234 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: what I have. I have YouTube TV. And I think 235 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: I I got YouTube TV because I needed like basic 236 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, local channels, and then I went a red 237 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: zone and had both and I was like, yeah, whatever, 238 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: and so yeah, it was like eighty five bucks. I 239 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: was like, well, that seems like a lot. 240 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 6: But the internet you need. You need to pay for 241 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 6: the internet to power the YouTube TV. So it's well, 242 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 6: it's like one hundred and fifty well over hunt. 243 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: H But then you convince yourself that, well I had 244 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: to have the internet anyway, right, so that's not really 245 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: a TV expense. But you're absolutely right. 246 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: But with cable, it's like you have you know, it's bundled. 247 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 6: You have the cable, maybe you have internet, and then 248 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 6: the cable package that they give you is right there. 249 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: So yes, but all these shows you can't get unless 250 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: you stream. 251 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: I know. 252 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 6: It's it's maddening, it really is. And then with this, 253 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 6: you know, I'm looking at the football schedule coming up 254 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 6: on Saturday, and you know, the Albany Great Danes are 255 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 6: going to Kinnick Stadium to play Iowa, And what game 256 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 6: is that channel on? It's on FS one. This happens 257 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 6: every year, just to and then it just depends on 258 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 6: the network everything. It's maddening. 259 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: It's frustrating every single year. 260 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: To be honest, it's been two years. Last year was 261 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: ESPN and this year's Fox. 262 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: No. But I'm sure if we went back there was 263 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: a channel. It was probably NBC the year before that. 264 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: Right, it seems like it's one of the major networks 265 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 6: and it's come to a standoff. It's on it's at 266 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: a standoff with some streaming provider, some streaming platform. 267 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: I bet jay STU if you googled, you know, like 268 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: standoff or whatever. I I don't know how you would 269 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: google it, but that there was somebody there. This is 270 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: this is a yearly thing. 271 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 5: I think you're conflating DirecTV directory of the same thing. 272 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 7: Though. 273 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, you're talking about YouTube. 274 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you're right, Okay, you're right if you if this 275 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: is just YouTube. My point is the standoff that that 276 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: that butts up to the beginning of football season and 277 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: sometimes costs us a chance to watch a game. 278 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: It's the media equivalent of an NFL preseason holdout. 279 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. 280 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: And it's like it's a lot, it's almost it's the 281 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: exact same thing. It's a hold in because you still 282 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: get your channels right now, and they're like, well, we're 283 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: gonna throw it off if you don't. And you know, 284 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna agree to a deal. Nobody just walks 285 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: from a deal. 286 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: Well, they get consumers involved. They turn one side, will 287 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 6: turn consumers. You know, it'll be like, uh, direct TV 288 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: customers call up your you know, tell them you want 289 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 6: ESPN and you it's like they they turn they turn 290 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: you on, you know, on the other side. 291 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: And this is what they do. 292 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 6: They get people to complain on Twitter or or cancel 293 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 6: their service, whatever it might be. 294 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: I think I think this would be this is one 295 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: where Fox may have a bit of the upper hand. 296 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I mean, can I I'm 297 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna hypothesize for a second. Okay, why did jac why'd 298 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: you get YouTube TV? 299 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: Because at the time it was free, not free, but 300 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 5: at the time it was cheaper, much cheaper than cable 301 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 5: that's how they drew us all. 302 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: One, right, and then what did you get as a 303 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: benefit to Like? What what do you watch on YouTube TV? Now? 304 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 5: All the news channels okay, cable news channels that I 305 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 5: watch a lot of sports. It's good for sports. I 306 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: get my Bachelor got to watch it live because I 307 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: have a podcast called the Lifestyle Podcast. 308 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: So what if that goes away for a week, but 309 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: you gotta watch? What? What do you do? What's your 310 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: possible outlet? 311 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: I think that there's I go to my son who 312 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 5: has a Spectrum password and I watch Fox Sports on Spectrum. 313 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: In perpetuity or or in Canada. 314 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: You filled the gap. You know that all of us 315 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 5: will have our gap plans, you know. 316 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so but the question is when does the gap 317 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: plan become the main plan? 318 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 5: And that's what that's why what YouTube TV will fear 319 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: in the okay. 320 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: Then yeah, in this case, I actually think that's a 321 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: legit fear because you know, if you're if you're doing 322 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: it for red zone, ESPN gets red zone? What next 323 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: year doesn't get it? This year? Is it this year? 324 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: Next year? 325 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 5: Yeah? This all it's all after this season. 326 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the question is can you find red zone 327 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: for a year, you know, is what do you do 328 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: for the college football games in the meantime? But this 329 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: one is one where Fox is going to have their 330 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: own streaming service, ESPN is going to have their own 331 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: streaming service, and ESPN streaming services also include red Zone. 332 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: If I'm YouTube TV like, I probably cave on this 333 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: one and get people signed up and try and extend 334 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: them beyond next year when ESPN takes over red Zone, 335 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: because it will substantially devalue whatever red Zone package you 336 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: have because any of you just pay for the ESPN 337 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: you get the red Zone as well. What's crazy about 338 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: it is and this was the big concern initially from 339 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: cable companies and from the Espns and the Foxes was 340 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: exactly what happened, which is streaming. They'll come in at 341 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: a really low price. But what's really it's evolved into 342 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: it's way more expensive to have all these streaming services 343 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: than it used to be just have cable. And the 344 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: reason that people pushed away from cable was they thought 345 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: it was too expensive. Now they say, well, yeah, it 346 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: was too expensive, but I also couldn't watch my favorite 347 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: shows that a la carte programming that everyone feared would 348 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: undercut based upon price, the competition actually costs way more money, way, way, 349 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: way more money. This is Doug Outleab Show here on 350 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio for forty years. I rexpen help with 351 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: customers find the right tires for how and where they drive, 352 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: ship fast and free back by free broad ass protection 353 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: with convenience solation options like mobile tire slation, tyrec talk 354 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: how the way tire buying should be. I'm not a 355 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: betting man. I do gamble occasionally, but I will bet 356 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: a substantial amount of money to Texas and Ohio State. 357 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Is available on YouTube on Fox Sports Just a guess, 358 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Just a just an educated guess. 359 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 360 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 361 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 362 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: It's Dog gotlig Show Fox Sports Radio. I Got a 363 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: thought for you, guys. So the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson 364 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: came to an agreement, right, and basically the agreement is like, Hey, 365 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: we're not going to extend you, but we'll give you 366 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: some more money this year. Right, We're not gonna extend you, 367 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: but we'll give you some more money this year. Now, 368 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: what does X signify? I remember they put him, you know, 369 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: they shopped him a little bit and there was no 370 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: trade made. What does that mean. Well, it's possible the 371 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Bengals asked for too much, but it's also possible that 372 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: other teams they didn't want to trade for a guy 373 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: who then they'd have to give a contract that they 374 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: don't want to have to good give a contract to 375 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: and they feel like, let's watch him play this year 376 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: and then we'll figure it out, figure out what we 377 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: want to pay him, what we don't want to pay him. 378 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: So tell me if this makes sense to you. Okay, 379 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: tell me this makes sense to you. Now, remember Trey 380 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Hendrickson's deal is I don't think it's perfect by any means. Right, 381 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: They gave him a big pay bump for just a year. 382 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna get fourteen million more this year. The revised 383 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: deal also includes one million dollars in incentives if he 384 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: plays sixty percent of the plays and the Bengals make 385 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So he's gonna make thirty million dollars this year. 386 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. But they didn't want to extend him 387 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: into extra years, or at least at the rate that 388 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: he wanted, so he could be a free at the 389 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: end of the year. They had discussed a two year, 390 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: seventy nine million dollar extension, and the overall deal could 391 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: have equaled ninety five million dollars over three years, while 392 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: accounting for his original sixteen million dollars this year. But 393 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: there are no guarantees beyond this year, so the agent 394 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: must going, Hey, you don't want to agree to it, 395 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: but beyond that, let's just give us a raise and 396 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: we'll be out the door if we do well. I 397 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: think it's a deal where no one's happy. No one's 398 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: really happy. Trey Hendrickson not really happy. Is he with 399 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals yet? Does he get paid yet? But does 400 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: he have security beyond this year? No, that's just like 401 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: the deal that he could have signed. And for the Bengals, 402 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: they were held hostage and end up having to double 403 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: the price of their leading pass rusher. And if he 404 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: plays well, they'll probably lose him. If he plays poorly, 405 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: they probably don't want to keep him. So what really 406 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: changed when they had him under contract and they didn't 407 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: have to do anything? But you know there's something about 408 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: I know this from broadcasting. People always say when when 409 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: both sides think you're a homer for the other side. 410 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: You you're right down the middle of a broadcaster, and 411 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: when both sides are a little bit unhappy with a deal, 412 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: you've probably nailed it with this contract. It's the dug 413 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Outleab Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. Earlier today, I got 414 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with Ken Griffy Senior and 415 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior on behalf of depend and their stands 416 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Strong for Men's Health campaign raising awareness for prostate cancer screening. Guys, listen, 417 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: it's obviously an honor to speak with you both. I 418 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: have to point out that I'm right in the wheelhouse 419 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: of fandom for the Griffies, right, Junior was the biggest 420 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: thing on Earth, Ken Senior, What was that like for 421 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: you to experience, right, not just having him play with 422 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: play with you at the same time, but for your 423 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: son to rise to where he was literally the biggest 424 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: sports star on Earth. 425 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 8: Well, that was to me, it was amazing. 426 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 7: I didn't think, you know, it would it would turn 427 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 7: out to be like that, But just watching him play. 428 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 7: When I first went over to Seattle, he told me 429 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 7: I'm playing left field and he's playing center. He and 430 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 7: he draws a square box three square feet he said, 431 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 7: you stand in that boxer and I got the rest, 432 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 7: and I said, right, you know, so I endpt believing 433 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 7: him until I ended up playing with him. How good 434 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 7: he was in terms of how much ground tell kind 435 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 7: of army had the power, which was really amazing to me. 436 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 7: I didn't know he had that much power because a 437 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 7: lot of time, you know, I mean you I threw 438 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 7: bat and practice to him from twelve years old old 439 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 7: to just about his eighteenth birthday. But and he didn't 440 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: get it hit in front of me in any games, 441 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 7: you know, for six years. So I just told Bobby Cox. 442 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 7: But I was with the Braids at the time. I said, 443 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 7: Bobby was there they right before they drafted him, and 444 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 7: he said, he said, well go ahead and see your son. 445 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 7: And I said, well, he can't hit, you know. So 446 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 7: end up that night, you know, first two at bats 447 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: he strikes out. I got to go down to Cincinnati 448 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 7: and play the rest because I went to Braids at 449 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 7: the time. 450 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 8: We got killed. 451 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 7: I come back home and I asked him how do 452 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 7: you do? He said, I did find I said, how 453 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 7: did you do? He said three for five two on 454 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 7: run five r vat and like I said, he didn't 455 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: get it hit in front of me tell his right 456 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 7: before his eighteenth birthday. So from twelve to eighteen, I 457 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 7: had to watch the drop and he did not make 458 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 7: contact those six years. 459 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 8: So but to watch him. 460 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 7: Play when I got a chance to play with it, ah, 461 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 7: it was amazing. I enjoyed every minute of watching play 462 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 7: because I didn't think he covered that much ground, but 463 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 7: he showed me he can do it. 464 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 8: And then his arm was. 465 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 7: Outstanding, and cause I told him one time he threw 466 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 7: Roberto it was a Kelly out at home plate from 467 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 7: centerfield wall. Yeah, and I asked him, why did he 468 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 7: get the cut off man? He said, it was easier 469 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 7: to just throw it all the way, you know, So yeah, 470 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 7: he did get that out. 471 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 8: But I did talk about it about the cut off man. 472 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: Can't can you? You know what was the experience like for you? 473 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: And again I'll just tell you. I was in southern California, 474 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: like a middle school kid, and part of it was 475 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: that was in the sports center era. But you were 476 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the first like baseball player, maybe Bo Jackson a little 477 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: bit before you, but we first baseball player that we 478 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: could just sit and watch highlights of you all day, 479 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: like it was mussy from your perspective, What was it like? 480 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 2: No, I mean getting drafted a seventeen, making too bigas 481 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: at nineteen, having. 482 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 8: Guys around me who had my back. 483 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Harold Reynold's day Vut, like Mickey Brantley, 484 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: Darnelle Cole's, Jeffrey Leonard. I mean, all these guys were 485 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: like big brothers and all the guys who played with 486 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: my dads against my dad. Every city I went into, 487 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: they made sure that, you know, hey, this is the 488 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: areas you stay away from. 489 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 8: This is I'm going to come get you. We're having lunch. 490 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I couldn't ask for a better group of 491 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: you know, big brothers and uncles and things like that. 492 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 8: I mean, I've go into a horseshoe basically. 493 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean the guys that you know took care of me, 494 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: made sure I was all right day in and day out, 495 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: you know. 496 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 8: And the one thing is true, I couldn't hit in 497 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 8: front of them because I wanted to. 498 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to impress my dad, and he would sit 499 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: there and he'd just go, why don't just tend on 500 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: your mom? Because my mom show up and I go off, 501 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: he show up. I came hit, and finally I got 502 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 2: my first hit and instruction with and he literally opens 503 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: the window of the r V and said, now was 504 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: that so bad and closes it and drives off. 505 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 8: And from that point on, I was fine. But I 506 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 8: just wanted to impress my dad. 507 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: Like any other because most people don't understand that, you 508 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: know he's gone because he's still playing it. And Saturdays 509 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: and Sundays, you know, most dads are watching their kids play. 510 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: You know they're home. And I didn't get that opportunity. 511 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: So when I did, I tried to kill the ball 512 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: and it backfired. And that's when I learned that if 513 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: I just go out there and play the game the 514 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: way it's supposed to be, I'm gonna be fine. But 515 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: it took me until I was drafted. 516 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 8: And even when I got drafted, he came to visit 517 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 8: me and Medford wrivi. 518 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wrote four bats in one played appearance 519 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: and it was a ground ball back to the picture 520 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: and I and I can't hit that bay, So I 521 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: don't get one of that. 522 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 8: He's his son. 523 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: You don't have to learn or learn how to use 524 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: wood bats, and you know I I from that point on, 525 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: I think the most bats ever broken one year was 526 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: maybe three guys. 527 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: Remember I'm sure you remember that hat on backwards controversy 528 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: where you go into BP and people would say, hey, 529 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: you're disrespecting the game. And Ken Senior for you for 530 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: a for a guy who you raised the best player 531 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: in baseball. Again, same thing, like, you can't defend your 532 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: son on doing the right thing all the time. But 533 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: this was like a kind of a nontroversy controversy. How 534 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: did that affect you? 535 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 8: They didn't know the story. 536 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 7: The story was when he was a little he was 537 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 7: always come and his wife he told him, told the 538 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 7: kids and he said, if they went games, you guysked 539 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 7: him come in the locker room. That was their biggest 540 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 7: thing was coming in the locker room. Pete Rose, people, 541 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 7: Peter Rows, Junior, him, my son, Craig, the Paria's kids. 542 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 7: You know, that was their biggest thing is getting the 543 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 7: opportunity to come into the locker room after a game 544 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 7: because if we lost, they were coming in. 545 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 8: So they enjoyed that. So the situation was Junior and 546 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 8: the kids would come in. 547 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: They would go down to the to the cages to play, 548 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 7: you know eacheuble grabbed their dad's glove or their hat. 549 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 7: And every day so Junior grab my hat and he's 550 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 7: running down there, and all of a sudden he's putting 551 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 7: the hat on like he's supposed to, you know, with 552 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 7: the bill out in front. Every time he went to 553 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 7: throw the vaull was go down over his eyes. He 554 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 7: couldn't see. But he finally just turned it around so 555 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 7: he can see. And that was for him just to 556 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 7: catch him throw the ball. 557 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 5: You know. 558 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 7: It was no disrespect of baseball or anything of that nature. 559 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 7: And people took it that way because they didn't understand 560 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 7: what happened, what he had went through when he was 561 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 7: a young kid. I know, my hat was my hat 562 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 7: was bigger than his head, you know, and that's that's 563 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 7: what happened. But everything everyone turned off. 564 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: You guys realize though now you would walk out now 565 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: if you went to a plate appearance, everyone would turn 566 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: their hand, everyone would turn around. 567 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: That that. 568 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 8: Was the reason. 569 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 7: That was the reason why he had his hat turned back. 570 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 7: What if he was disrespecting It was just so you 571 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 7: can see and catch the ball, that's all. 572 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: If obviously you can hear from my voice it's like 573 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: revered terms and talking about you can if you could 574 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: tell the if you wanted the younger generation to know 575 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: one thing about you and your career. 576 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: What would it be. 577 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 8: The one thing. Yeah, you only got one shot of 578 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 8: the career. Take pride in it day in and day out. 579 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: It's pretty you. 580 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: Know, people take things for granted, like they're going to 581 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: be here tomorrow, They're going to do this tomorrow, they're 582 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: going to do that. 583 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 8: Now. 584 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: It's you know, you get one shot at the thing 585 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: that you want to do, probably for the rest of 586 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: your life. 587 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 8: Take pride in it. 588 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: Early detection it's so incredibly important for all men, especially 589 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: African American men. It's why I'm honored to have you 590 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: guys join us, Ken if you could. Why is it 591 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: important to you that people understand about early detection for 592 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: prostate cancer. 593 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 7: Well, that was the most important thing for me, was 594 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 7: the early detection. Going back to the history of my family. 595 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 7: I had four uncles that I lost through by state cancer, 596 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 7: and knowing that a lot of them they never went 597 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 7: to the doctor, they never talked about anything, and so 598 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 7: if they would have talked about it at that time, 599 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 7: I would probably got the know more or got the 600 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 7: dulb period. Because they died early and I never got 601 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 7: a chance to. 602 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 8: Meet them even talk to them. 603 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 7: But to me, being diagnosed early or screened early, well 604 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 7: it's a chance that you'll be you'll be your survival rate, 605 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 7: you know, so being you know, to me was the 606 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 7: most important thing. 607 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 8: Was diagnosed early. I mean I had to go through 608 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 8: so many changes with the. 609 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 7: Doing all the whole Actually, the whole process was kind 610 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 7: of tough on me because, like I said, I already 611 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 7: knew about it. But at the same time, you know, 612 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 7: if my mother had talked about it and I was 613 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 7: able to go through the whole process. 614 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. Depend of course 615 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: has put a million dollars a million dollars in Prostate 616 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Cancer Foundation and obviously you guys teaming up with with 617 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith as as part of this campaign. Guys, I 618 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: cannot thank you enough for your time. And obviously you 619 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: guys are the original father and son duo, and I 620 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: think your words and your belief and you're telling people 621 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: to open up a conversation, right, because that's that's the 622 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: hard part about it, right, Junior, is like just having 623 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: a conversation about it, which seems maybe embarrassing to some, 624 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: but it's way more embarrassing if you you wouldn't try 625 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: and get early detection survive. 626 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 2: The actual conversation started, you know with us. You know, 627 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: a week after he got diagnosed. He was able to 628 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: sit down and tell me what was going on, tell 629 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: me about you know, the upcoming procedures, our family history. 630 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: And it enabled me to be able to talk to 631 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 2: my two boys, you know, and let them know, hey, 632 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: you know, this is what's going on. 633 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 8: This is you know, And I think that's the key 634 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 8: is to be able to have the conversation. You know, 635 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 8: one and eight men are diagnosed, you know, and being. 636 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: Able to have a survival rate that increases as the 637 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: earlier detech is important. You know, knowing your family history, 638 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: even if you don't know your family history, go get checked, 639 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: you know, being able to to. 640 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 8: Do certain things to make sure that you're there. 641 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of things that he's 642 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 2: got to be able to teach my kids because my 643 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: kids don't listen to me, just like I didn't listen 644 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: to him. 645 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 8: It's always that skipper generation. 646 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 9: You know. 647 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: I tell people we have a he has a common 648 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: ally with my kids. They gang up on me, you know, Uh, 649 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 2: so you know he has to be around for them, 650 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: and you know and for me when you know grandkids, 651 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: you know, I just had my first. 652 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, so oh you didn't know that. Yeah, I'm no 653 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 8: longer existed. 654 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: I just I just know that that you guys are 655 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: both the black. When they say black, don't crack that. 656 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: I'll look at you guys both. I'm saying it's not 657 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: fair because Ken literally look the same as when we 658 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: played and the same like this is I'm you guys 659 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: are stuck in a time warp, but I'm not so 660 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea, So congratulations. 661 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, but this is just about you know, early detection. 662 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean being able to have conversations. I mean that 663 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: is probably the key to a successful outcome is you know, 664 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: not be embarrassed. I think you know, as men were 665 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: supposed to be tough and you know, don't do this, 666 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: don't do that, don't say nothing. And you know, for 667 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: him to open up really showed me that I can 668 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 2: open up to my kids. And I think that's the 669 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: most one of the most important thing is to be 670 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 2: able to open up the family and and make sure 671 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: that it's an easy conversation. 672 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: King King Jr. Absolute honor I think should depend for 673 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: having allowing us to have you guys on and this 674 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: is an incredible campaign. Thank you for being our guest. 675 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 8: Thank you. 676 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 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Goodbye baseball number fifty for Cal Raleigh. 686 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 9: He becomes one of only thirty three members of the 687 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 9: fifty home run club and he reaches the upper deck 688 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 9: like he did with home run number forty eight yesterday. 689 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 9: Forty ninety crushed off the outits own scoreboard and the 690 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 9: magical season just con tissues for Cal Rawley, ho he 691 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 9: smokes on a shot. 692 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 693 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: we've all done the Maya copas and we're wrong, and 694 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Raley's kept it going. I don't know if this 695 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: is getting the attention it deserves, right, Like, to me, 696 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of records, you know, I think I 697 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: think a lot of us grew to have a resistance 698 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: towards records or towards first of its kind with the 699 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: Lebron James era, right because he's been playing so long, 700 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: and because like Lebron James is the first ever player 701 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and 702 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: like I get it, he's awesome, But it's not really 703 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: it's like we can create it's like created records. This 704 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: is not a created record. Cal Ray is a catcher. 705 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: Catchers don't perform nearly as well in the second half 706 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: seasons the first half season. He also plays in a 707 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: ballpark which is the hardest in Major League Baseball hit 708 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: home run in. And he's got fitty home runs as 709 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: a catcher, which you're not supposed to be able to do. 710 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: And it's not like baseball just started keeping these stats. Granted, 711 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: they didn't start playing one hundred and sixty two games 712 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: until you know, I don't know, forty years ago, okay, 713 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: But regardless of how many games they played, no one 714 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: who played catcher hit this many home runs. Uh, this 715 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: is a and again I'm going to I have no 716 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: reason to believe otherwise. So this is a drug free, 717 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable season from a player who plays a position that 718 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: traditionally wears you down, and he end up playing in 719 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: a place which is hard to do what he's doing, 720 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: and yet he's accomplishing all of it, and he's the 721 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: first to do it in a sport which has gone 722 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: for over one hundred and thirty years, and they've kept 723 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: stats of it, like Jase do Am I over selling 724 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: how big this record is, how big this number is. 725 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 5: You're not You're not over selling it at all. And 726 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 5: I was just kind of looking this up as you 727 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 5: were talking to make sure I got this right. He's 728 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 5: played thirty one games at d H this year. To 729 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: your point, most catchers haven't been good enough hitters to 730 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 5: be DH through the history of whenever they whenever the 731 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 5: American League said they're going to bastardize the game, and uh, 732 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 5: interjected the designated hitter. I want to say the early seventies, 733 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 5: Isaac so, but no catcher has deserved to spend his 734 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 5: off days as a designated hitter. This is kind of 735 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 5: a recent thing. He said, over forty home runs now 736 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 5: as a catcher, being a catcher on the lineup and 737 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 5: hitting forty home runs, that's by far the big the 738 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: the most that anyone's ever hit. As someone who taught 739 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 5: myself how to switch hit, and again, the furthest I 740 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 5: ever played was Juco summer tryouts. That was the furthest 741 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 5: I ever got until the world told me I couldn't 742 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 5: play anymore. But I taught myself on a switch hit, 743 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 5: so have a I have a unique appreciation for switch hitters. 744 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 5: I love switch hitters. And the fact that he has 745 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 5: been able to do something that only Mickey Mantle has 746 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 5: ever done, hit at least fifty home runs in a 747 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 5: season as a switch hitter. I mean, it's remarkable what 748 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 5: he's doing. And if he didn't play in Seattle, I 749 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 5: think he would get more attention. I think that's his problem. 750 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 5: The Mariners are kind of like a I felt this 751 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 5: with each a row. It's just like they're a team, 752 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 5: but they just they kind of largely get ignored by 753 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 5: a national media. 754 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: I would say that's completely true, completely true. But I 755 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: also think that part of the Mariners thing makes it 756 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: more impressive because that ballpark is hard to hit home 757 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: runs out of, you know, first of its kind in 758 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: major League Baseball at a position that's really hard. It's crazy.