WEBVTT - MY FIRST GUEST!!! AND THE RIOTS 

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, guys. Welcome to the Rogue Recap, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am super stoked today because I have my first ever guest.

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<v Speaker 1>He is super snarky. He's way snarkier than me, which

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the reason why we're such good friends,

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<v Speaker 1>right because people like me we need to find competition

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<v Speaker 1>in conversation. Who can say the next quippiest, funniest thing

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<v Speaker 1>and who knows more and what I can say I

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<v Speaker 1>have no pride in. This is the next person I

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<v Speaker 1>am introducing here, mister Eric Eggers. He is the vice

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<v Speaker 1>president of the Government Accountability Institute. He is co host

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<v Speaker 1>of The Drill Down he is. He is a movie

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<v Speaker 1>producer and director and writer of The Creepy Line, which

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<v Speaker 1>predicted the twenty twenty election in twenty eighteen, which is

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<v Speaker 1>super weird. I don't know. Maybe he's also a telepath

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<v Speaker 1>or like a psychic. I'm not sure. There might be

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<v Speaker 1>some questions there, but he's just a connoisseur of all

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<v Speaker 1>things smarty pants. We're super excited to have him here. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Eggers.

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<v Speaker 2>You are absolutely correct that I do have a host

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<v Speaker 2>of personal deficiencies that I hope to make very public

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<v Speaker 2>in your podcast today. I was actually wondering, like, am

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<v Speaker 2>I the first guests she's ever had a show? So

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<v Speaker 2>that makes me like the Jackie Robinson of your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me like the Barack Obama. I cannot wait

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<v Speaker 2>to exploit my new position as a barrier breaker in

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast space.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the world is a hot mess. I say this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know every podcast. I'm like, there's no shortage of news,

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<v Speaker 1>but there really isn't. It gets to a point even

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<v Speaker 1>for people like you and I who work in news,

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<v Speaker 1>and for those of you listening. You know, Eric and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been friends a long time, and he really and

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<v Speaker 1>truly is a savant. The guy knows things like I

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<v Speaker 1>really like Jeopardy and I love Alex Trebeck and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, I'll just be friends with Eggers

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<v Speaker 1>because that's just like walking Jeopardy. He knows tons of

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<v Speaker 1>things and you're like, how do you know that? And

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<v Speaker 1>he just whips them out. I'm like, I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird. So, but he has sort of a wealth

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<v Speaker 1>of knowledge about where the money comes from, where's the

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<v Speaker 1>sourcing from, who's actually behind all these terrible things. So

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to talk to him today. Not just

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<v Speaker 1>to bash all these these lunatics in LA and now, Eric, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it Austin, Chicago's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's crazy. It literally is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I took my son to see the new Mission Impossible

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<v Speaker 2>film because it and it's really good. I mean, it's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on how you want to consume things. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little wokey in some stuff, but as a as

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of like fun popcorn movie that stunts are crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's cool. But the point of it is is like

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<v Speaker 2>it starts with there is no truth, the world's on fire,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's mad at everybody, and it's like the stuff they

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<v Speaker 2>show is like, wait, no, that's Los Angeles, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that is literally what we're seeing. Uh, And it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is bizarrely predictive of what we actually now consume

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<v Speaker 2>as actual reality. It's terrifying, but it's great if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the news business. Also, just want a quick fact checked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a savant. It's a mistake a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people make. I'm just socially awkward and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as your audience is about to find.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, well, I think you know. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I find really funny in this business, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are both in it. You know, we both worked

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<v Speaker 1>in radio, we both worked in TV and podcasting and

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<v Speaker 1>documentaries and worked on books. And I think in each

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<v Speaker 1>of these spectrums of media, when you're trying to give

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<v Speaker 1>your audience something to consume, you're really trying to give

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<v Speaker 1>them something they can't get anywhere else. Typically in our business,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the truth. People are true, they're having a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time with the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just or how about a perspective that's true, right,

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<v Speaker 2>a perspective that's true that you're not really allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>or there's not space to have. I remember thinking in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty and reading about so I wrote a book

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen called Fraud, How the Left Plans to

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<v Speaker 2>Steal the next election, and you know, talked about all

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<v Speaker 2>the vulnerabilities and electoral system and everything. I really did

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<v Speaker 2>think that Donald Trump would win the election in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>even though the polls showed he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was sort of losing.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the reasons why I thought that is

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<v Speaker 2>there was all these studies that showed that no one

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<v Speaker 2>felt comfortable he'd been so demonized and vilified for four

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<v Speaker 2>years that people that wanted to support him didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they could because there'd be a very real societal cost.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was like happening in the context of like

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<v Speaker 2>COVID and like you allowed to actually live your life

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<v Speaker 2>because your very existence, as endorsed by government policy was

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<v Speaker 2>a threat to other people, and other people were encouraged

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<v Speaker 2>to see your existence as a threat, and that obviously

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<v Speaker 2>then transferred to well, if you support the wrong ideas

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong people, then that also was a threat. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it had kind of helped create some of

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<v Speaker 2>the social frameworks and emotional frameworks for some of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you're now seeing today, which is very unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, maybe not the worst thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really bad if you're an American, it's not the

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<v Speaker 2>worst thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're in the media business as we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the problem with the media businesses is

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<v Speaker 1>it really does love the ratings that all of this

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<v Speaker 1>chaos springs. As a human, as a Christian, I really

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with it, you know, like I think about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you saw that video where there's this woman

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<v Speaker 1>and she's going to work and these two woke Karens

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<v Speaker 1>are blocking her on their bikes with their signs. Dude

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<v Speaker 1>that it's cringe. It's so cringe like. And the best

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<v Speaker 1>part is she actually kind of like tries to like

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<v Speaker 1>mine f them a little bit, right, because she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm black. I'm the person you think you're out here supporting.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go to work. My child's in my car.

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<v Speaker 1>I have other children, Like please get out of the way, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>And the hippie and the tank tops like work work,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what work is? So is so much less important, right, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>do you even work?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, both of those people needed. There was

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<v Speaker 1>another guy. I can't ever play this video because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so wrong, but there is these three black guys in

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<v Speaker 1>LA and they're talking about the one gentleman is explaining

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<v Speaker 1>to his other two friends. And I use the word

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<v Speaker 1>gentleman loosely. You know, they're around this like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where. They are in an alley somewhere, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>explaining to them. He's like, you got to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the sixties when they use the hoses and the dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>The other guy's like, bro, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's not right, it's not right. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>just come into America and break the laws. And what's

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<v Speaker 1>funny is in his brain as nuanced as his ideas were,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, America has never been so weak. Never in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives have we seen on live television people taking

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<v Speaker 1>motor bikes and rental bikes and malotov cocktails and rocks

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<v Speaker 1>and throwing them and hurling them, actually making contact with

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement. All different types of leos too, not just

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<v Speaker 1>like regular police were talking federal agents, ice agents, detectives, dea,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't give a rip. I watched a woman take

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<v Speaker 1>her pocketbook and whack this cop in the face. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, when I get pulled over, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't breathe. I cannot imagine. And I think I'm pretty tough,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't take any crap for anybody, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am not just respectful to our police.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what no I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to be very respectful for law enforcement generally,

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<v Speaker 2>but we know when anyone else has a weapon, I'm like, yes, sir, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and no. But think about what you're talking about, though,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that speaks to what's been happening.

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<v Speaker 3>The summer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a podcast a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about the fifth the anniversary of the George

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<v Speaker 2>Floyd riots, and it was the summer of COVID, Summer

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<v Speaker 2>George Floyd. And you know, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>came out of that is how much harder it became

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<v Speaker 2>for law enforcement to actually recruit people because nobody wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be a police officer.

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<v Speaker 3>Police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously there are law enforcement officers who do

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<v Speaker 2>a bad job or they make mistakes, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not perfect, just like any other population, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were vilified in a way, and the vilification the protests

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<v Speaker 2>were celebrated in a mainstream way.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I mean that actually is what I think

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<v Speaker 3>about now is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know we've talked about it, but you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the mayor of Los Angeles and you've got Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, Okay, Donald Trump, and the presence of law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement is actually making things worse. And I thought, what

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a police officer in Los Angeles, Like, at

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<v Speaker 2>no point has anybody said the police officers are doing

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<v Speaker 2>a great job. The implication is actually the opposite. They're

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting that the presence of law enforcements was leading to

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<v Speaker 2>violence and crime, and that is so backwards and wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like awellian and dystopian. But that's the that's the

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<v Speaker 2>logic that they've sold us for the last half a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>So question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so I think that's it's unfortunate that you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this, and I, dude, I'm actually quite worried that

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to get a lot worse this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm in New York City, so to today. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I came in by train, took the subway, YadA YadA,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just looking around because what happens is this

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<v Speaker 1>is the other thing. You know, protesters, they really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have it good, right. They're making what is it,

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<v Speaker 1>seven to thirteen thousand a week, whether they protest or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you say that, by the way, on your

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<v Speaker 2>last podcast, and I like, I like that we're pretending

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<v Speaker 2>that you're on Craigslist because that's for research for the

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<v Speaker 2>show and not for anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, absolutely, I was like, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>this platform that much. I'm never here just perusing for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of the show. Thank you for listening. Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're unemployed and you can make seven to thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, whether you protest or not. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, Okay, and they have all these people who

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<v Speaker 1>went under cover, and we actually had one of them

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<v Speaker 1>on the show the other day, Cam Higbee, and he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's in the LA riots. He's there, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, they are organized. They have pieces of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>they are told what to say, how to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>where to run, what to do. They're given water, bandanas,

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<v Speaker 1>band aids, bats, they have makeshift bombs and firecrackers, all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of I mean, they are going out super ready.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that COEs that hearkens back to the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the of who's profiting, who's making money off

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<v Speaker 1>of this? Why is there such a desire to subvert

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the United States of America as a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other podcast. But I think the thing that I'm struggling

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<v Speaker 1>with the most, and this goes back to the original

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<v Speaker 1>comment of we want to give something different truth, a

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of truth, just maybe like I don't care who

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<v Speaker 1>is telling it, whether it's the left or the right,

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<v Speaker 1>the rich or the poor. I just want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what's happening. And I'm looking at CNN and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, to your point, I'm back during the George

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<v Speaker 1>Floyd riots. I'm looking at Dana Bash and Jake Tapper

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicole Wallace and you know, the the ridiculous people

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<v Speaker 1>that sit around that desk on the view. These riots

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<v Speaker 1>are not riots, purely expression due to the frustration caused

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<v Speaker 1>by Donald Trump. And I'm like, guys, they're throwing vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>and setting them on fire. That's not where is that peaceful?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean right, No, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A it's a good gig, it's well paid.

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<v Speaker 2>And based on the video I've seen of people looting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Apple store, it comes to the free iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not your fault, it's not their fault.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, it's not their fault. No, this is worse,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it speaks to you, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard you say this before. There weren't really any

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<v Speaker 2>consequences for doing it in twenty twenty, right, like you

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<v Speaker 2>got bailed out. There's all these funds, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>I think the left saw this is the Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So and Mike, you know, Tim Walls. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the person who presided over the dumpster fire that

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<v Speaker 2>was Minnesota during twenty twenty got picked to be the

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<v Speaker 2>vice president. You know, they say, oh, I'm here to

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<v Speaker 2>code talk to white guys. No, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually meant as an endorsement of all the other behaviors

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<v Speaker 2>that they sort of like helped foment and and and

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<v Speaker 2>helped celebrate.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a disaster, and Minnesota was worse, not just in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the riots for the George Floyd stuff, but

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<v Speaker 2>then also they were like among the more hard handed

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for COVID shutdowns. Right, You've seen those videos of

0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.760
<v Speaker 2>them like firing rubber bullets telling people to go back outside.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Worst thing, the worst Yeah, No, the worst Democratic policies

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<v Speaker 2>that you could come up with was Minnesota, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>who they picked. So that just shows you where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you wonder why they were you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>got beat so badly. Yeah, despite that, the this and effort. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's terrible, and it's good news for being you know,

0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I think right minor Republicans because it's like they still

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<v Speaker 2>don't have it figured out, and the fact that they can't,

0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.960
<v Speaker 2>heard Mark Halpern say on his podcast recently, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>they just come out and say hey, thank you Donald

0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Trump for sell it, for sending support and in reinforcements,

0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Like why would you not say that? It's because Donald

0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Trump is so toxic and still seen as such a

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<v Speaker 2>threat that like they.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to be. They're too.

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<v Speaker 2>Beholden to the donor and activist class, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>can't then say what most people want to say, which

0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.040
<v Speaker 2>is like, actually, Donald Trump's not the problem. Law Enforcement's

0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.080
<v Speaker 2>not the problem. The rioters are the problem, and anybody

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<v Speaker 2>that says anything else is lying to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to go back to something which that

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<v Speaker 1>just made me think of it. You know, the lobbyists

0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and the people who sit on the boards. Yeah, and

0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the people that are getting kickbacks and are literally making

0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.520
<v Speaker 1>money off the demise of others. Right, m So you

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<v Speaker 1>look at you know, twenty twenty and Donald Trump, and

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<v Speaker 1>I always say the same thing. I'm like, people love

0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. You say what you want. You know, I

0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:04.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have to marry him, I don't have to have

0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.360
<v Speaker 1>dinner with him, but I like the way it runs business. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can put aside your personal logita, you know,

0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we have Joe Biden who's sniffing and touching small children

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<v Speaker 1>on camera, it's it's not for debate. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep fake, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It like I'm sorry, guys, like it's just weird. It

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<v Speaker 1>just is. You got it. And then you know, we

0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.080
<v Speaker 1>had the whole Ashley Biden diary thing, which just sweeped

0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.520
<v Speaker 1>out under the giant rug in the middle of the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, remember when that lady accused him of like sexual harassment.

0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.600
<v Speaker 2>That was a big thing too for like a minute,

0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and then that went away, just.

0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Like the Laptop from Hell went nowhere. And all of

0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.120
<v Speaker 1>these accusations and the problem is, and it goes to

0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.080
<v Speaker 1>every single thing, right, whether it's the election in twenty twenty,

0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.080
<v Speaker 1>whether it is the original source of COVID, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's okay for these thousands and thousands of

0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:01.080
<v Speaker 1>paid protesters to destroy cities in the name of progress,

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<v Speaker 1>and I use that term loosely, all of these things

0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't can't ask questions. If you ask questions, there's

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong with you. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I

0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.160
<v Speaker 1>thought that that was the whole point. If you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>committed to your mission, and that's being very kind, why

0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are you covering your face? Why are you covering your face,

0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great point, and that to me was actually

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<v Speaker 2>the worst part about I mean everything about twenty twenty

0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.880
<v Speaker 2>was bad, but yes, that you couldn't And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>again I thought like Trump will win because the amount

0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of space that was taken from us to say things

0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:44.120
<v Speaker 2>disappeared so dramatically, like you couldn't question anything like mask policies, right,

0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.240
<v Speaker 2>like I mean know, like remember, I mean, no, you

0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.000
<v Speaker 2>have to wear a mask all the time unless you're

0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.800
<v Speaker 2>at a restaurant, you know, unless you're like actively eating it.

0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Was it bad? Is it not bad? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I never wore a mask. I've never fought so many

0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.400
<v Speaker 1>strangers in my life. Yeah, I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm

0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.960
<v Speaker 1>not wearing a mask to go to the store of

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<v Speaker 1>by bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually gained COVID nineteen because in terms of pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I was always having like something in my

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<v Speaker 2>mouth when I was like, it's like, no, that was

0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.440
<v Speaker 2>the thing. I can I can do this, Okay, it

0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:15.000
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>I remembered flying.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had just kind of lifted it and I

0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.760
<v Speaker 1>was in, uh, I want to where I was going

0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.000
<v Speaker 1>out west. It was a very long flight and as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I got on the flight, it was like

0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.960
<v Speaker 1>seeing like you know, like when I see like a

0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.600
<v Speaker 1>female pilot who you know, looks like she's eleven and

0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe has flown ten hours, I'm like, I'm getting off,

0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.640
<v Speaker 1>so I can't. I get on the plane and I

0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.200
<v Speaker 1>see her. She's got the N ninety five and then

0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.920
<v Speaker 1>the mask on top of that, and then one around

0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:47.680
<v Speaker 1>her head, and I'm like, ma'am, what is happening? Like,

0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.360
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not protecting yourself or anybody else. That's

0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.720
<v Speaker 1>just your psychosis manifesting itself in your face in many

0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.440
<v Speaker 1>layers of paper. I really, I am struggling in a

0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.720
<v Speaker 1>large way. I actually hurt for you. But she decided

0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to be her target. And I'm

0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting there and she goes, I'm hi, Hi, So I'm

0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.840
<v Speaker 1>going to need you to just if you're not actively

0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:14.040
<v Speaker 1>eating or drinking, to just keep that mask in place.

0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.959
<v Speaker 1>And I looked her no, She's like, I'm sorry, that's

0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.439
<v Speaker 1>federal alarm. Like it's actually not federal law. The mandate

0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.800
<v Speaker 1>has been lifted. I can I don't have to wear

0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>my mask unless I'm sick, and I'm not sick. I'm fine,

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.800
<v Speaker 1>actually you look like you're very unwell. I see you

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<v Speaker 1>have like or four I wish you all the best

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.439
<v Speaker 1>of my friend. She reland the plane and the captain

0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.639
<v Speaker 1>comes out and she's like, I've told the captain that

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:40.840
<v Speaker 1>he needs to speak with you. I'm like, oh, he

0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:41.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to talk to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, right, Like we did the thing. I bought the ticket,

0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I took the ride, and now get off.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here. We don't need to talk anymore. The interaction

0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.880
<v Speaker 1>is over. Have a nice day, you know. I'll send

0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 1>you a mask. Looks like you could use one. But

0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>all of that to say, it was like it it

0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:58.760
<v Speaker 1>gave power to people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so so back to the point, like go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the hippies in the street blocking the African

0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.359
<v Speaker 2>American lady. It's I've been thinking about this. It's like

0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 2>inherently self elevating. It's like they feel good about themselves

0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 2>by telling this lady, bro, why are you going to work?

0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Like my position is so much better because I care

0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.800
<v Speaker 2>about like what actually matters, and they understand the things

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.479
<v Speaker 2>that actually matter, and you're an idiot and you're just

0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.240
<v Speaker 2>causing harm and destruction on other people. It's very unfortunate,

0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm really glad that period is over. But but

0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I do think the seeds of that still very much

0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.800
<v Speaker 2>exist in the small pockets where those people because you

0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.280
<v Speaker 2>would have to confront and you'd have to admit to

0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.040
<v Speaker 2>yourself that what you believed and did was wrong, and

0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 2>they won't do that. And so that's why, right so,

0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.960
<v Speaker 2>like so law enforcement still bad, and that's why the

0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.960
<v Speaker 2>immigrants are good. And I think there's a difference right between.

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that there's some people that would say,

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.720
<v Speaker 2>you can't just say, hey, we think forced deportations of

0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 2>people who are just here illegally, maybe that's too much.

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.080
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think there's as much support for that

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 2>across the country as But you can't just say that.

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like no, no, no, cops are bad, ice raids

0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.639
<v Speaker 2>are bad, you know, I mean, like they there was

0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.120
<v Speaker 2>people that's a Maryland man, it's a Maryland dad. He's

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.200
<v Speaker 2>not a you know, somebody's got all kinds of problems.

0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.119
<v Speaker 2>And remember and we talked about this on this week's

0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.840
<v Speaker 2>episode of The Buildown like the whole thing started and

0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Tom Homan said this, our borders are said, we weren't

0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 2>just looking for illegal immigrants. We were busting up a

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 2>money laundering operation that was benefiting the Mexican cartel. Eighty

0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.639
<v Speaker 2>million dollars worth of underreported assets is here, and the

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 2>drug cartels have made billions of dollars because of this

0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.920
<v Speaker 2>open border policy under Joe Biden. Like, that's what they're

0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.480
<v Speaker 2>going after. And I think that's actually so you've taken

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.359
<v Speaker 2>like real money that speaks to like a real geopolitical

0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.239
<v Speaker 2>threat to the United States, and people are celebrating it

0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:55.159
<v Speaker 2>because they think it's about something that is about some

0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 2>civil rights issue, even though it's not really.

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<v Speaker 1>But to that point, Eric, right, So you made an

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 1>excellent point on your show for those of you who

0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:03.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't miss it. In the front, he hosts The Drill

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Down with Peter Schweitzer. It's excellent. It's every week. It's

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful podcast. And they do ridiculous research that nobody

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>else does. Truly, nobody else does. And they pointed out

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Tom Holman didn't like sort of say, hey,

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that looks like a fun factory to go into. No,

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that's not what happened. They were executing search warrants based

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 1>upon information and data that they had collected in their

0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.120
<v Speaker 1>investigations that showed that it was a money laundering operation

0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and that they needed to arrest these people who were

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.160
<v Speaker 1>operating within the boundaries of and for cartels. And I'm

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>sure it's trendy Aragua and the Sinaloa MS thirteen, God

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 1>knows who else. Is there something wrong? Like are we

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 1>not able to enforce the law? Oh, well, you can't

0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 1>arrest the union leader. Okay, Well, if the union leader

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>is the guy that is the one that is executing

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.880
<v Speaker 1>everything for the cartel, then the union leader goes to jail.

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.119
<v Speaker 1>That's the way it works. It doesn't matter who it

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is that's following the law. But it's this idea that

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>they're convoluting it with the illegal immigration fight. And they're saying, oh,

0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 1>they're just trying to feed their families. So I'm like, bro,

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he's not trying to feed anybody Learney for the cartel,

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<v Speaker 1>Like stop, it's so. But see, it's to your point

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<v Speaker 1>and what we were saying earlier. People don't know this

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 1>right because they're not seeing it. They're not watching what

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 1>they need to watch to learn what they need to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just by the way and by the way, one

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.919
<v Speaker 2>of the groups that helped organize these protests that we

0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:34.640
<v Speaker 2>talked about in our podcast Turla. We actually had one

0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>of our researchers and author, Jed macfatter, he was He

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 2>put out a tweet, but basically that in twenty twenty one,

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that group spent I think upwards of five hundred thousand

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 2>dollars to defeat Gavin Newston's recall amendment. So like, so

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 2>these groups that are helping to organize these things. So

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>if you wonder, like how come Gavin Newstom, how come

0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.920
<v Speaker 2>mayor Canbass, like these local elected leaders, how come they're

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 2>saying things that seem not in support of like the

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 2>regular citizens in California.

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:00.080
<v Speaker 3>It's because they have been.

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Supported by these groups that are tied in with these protests.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, they're unfortunately like either direct beneficiarias or

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 2>in some ways partners with the groups they're helping to

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 2>do this. So you that's where they're going to be,

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's where they will be, and that's why I

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna see so many different you know, wait

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 2>until next week, we will talk about the money on

0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the drill down. We will talk about the money behind

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>what's happening, what's gonna happen this weekend.

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 3>The No Kings movement.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's not just crazy Randy Winegarten

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<v Speaker 2>and the teacher people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's real money from real bad places. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be so stay tuned for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's also you know, we've got sing them, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got PSL, Trilla, all the things. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture that people are also unaware of. When you

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<v Speaker 1>see somebody like Bono come out and start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the starving children and USA, I'm like, just go sing

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<v Speaker 1>where the streets have no name, sir. That's your job,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're Okay, it's a beautiful song. I enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>Please sing it. Stop talking about politics. This this whole

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<v Speaker 1>group of Like, I'm an artist, therefore I resonate with

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<v Speaker 1>the refugee and the lost. But the original you know,

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<v Speaker 1>idea of give me you're tired, you're poor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hungry masses like, that's not what we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>We're dealing with opportunists who came across an open border

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<v Speaker 1>and our milking system, depleting the system and sending money

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<v Speaker 1>back to another country. Oh and by the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican president is pissed off because she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay taxes on American dollars either. And that to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the fact the funneling of money through USA two NGOs

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<v Speaker 1>that go to all the illegal things that we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to follow the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow money remittances from the United States, and Mexico has

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<v Speaker 2>shocked learned this sixty four billion dollars, sixty four billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars get sent back from people in this country to Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, hey, it's their right, they can do.

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<v Speaker 2>They can do whatever they want to do. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of the Mexican economy. That's like the telecom

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<v Speaker 2>industry and like online media stuff. I mean, that's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's massive, and so yeah, of course they're incentivized to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And that's why she said, Look, we will,

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<v Speaker 2>we will protest and we will organize. They're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>in this big beautiful bill adding a three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half percent tax to the remittances, which I think, even

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<v Speaker 2>as conservatives, I know it feels good, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you want a tax like it's their money, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't think we want to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>business of supporting taxes. But that's but I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Conservats should be able to be honest and have honest

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<v Speaker 2>conversations about that, whereas on the left is like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>like we will take these positions and do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>you got Republicans saying that, well, maybe we'll jack up

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen percent just as a retaliatory measure.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point is, the money behind this issue is

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<v Speaker 2>insane and that's what's actually going on. But unfortunately, that

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<v Speaker 2>is not what the media talks about. The media just

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<v Speaker 2>talks about these poor, innocent black and brown people who

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<v Speaker 2>are being mistreated by law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And unfortunately, if we look statistically, there's two things

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<v Speaker 1>happening statistically in crime, and this is a real they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting down people who are arrested who are black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown as white. And so if you see the police reports,

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<v Speaker 1>these leos will tell you. They'll usually tell you undercover,

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<v Speaker 1>because if they speak out about it, they get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they release, when they release the police reports

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll put them online, sometimes you'll see those things.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll say this person was white or this and they weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's a bigger issue. That's another podcast. In

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<v Speaker 1>any event, Eric Agers, thank you for being with us.

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<v Speaker 1>The world's on fire. I hope you've got your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your summer weather attire ready, because it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>long summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Linda, there's a reason why I do podcasts. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the I don't have the wardrobe to

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<v Speaker 2>consistently do television and and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know this better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And I resent you for bringing up yet another one

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<v Speaker 2>of my personal shortcomings, but I will say it was

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<v Speaker 2>so fun. Let me also, just like you said, Bono,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to let this. I have to say

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<v Speaker 2>this because it triggered me. I'm somebody who defends liberty

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<v Speaker 2>and freedom for all. I will I like you too.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to like you too. I will never forgive

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<v Speaker 2>Bono for forcing himself onto my iPhone with that album. However,

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago, it's still there. It's so bothersomething.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Super weird, Like why are we pretending that that's okay?

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<v Speaker 2>That was actually worse than COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like you a lot, you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>force it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Yeah, it really weird. Like anyways, Eric Angers, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>This is Lynda McLaughlin in the Road Recap. Check us

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<v Speaker 1>out online at Lennamick at the Road Recap. I'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Good night, everybody, stay safe.

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<v Speaker 5>Became stamest the same move them, do the mom, don

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<v Speaker 5>the