1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in second hour of The 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is now eight hundred 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: two A two two eighty two. On those phone lines, 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Pelosi's planned visit to Taiwan 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: and how this is getting some saber rattling in response 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: from Chinese Defense Ministry the Chinese Communist Party. Also comes 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: at a time when Paul Pelosi's habit, despite being worth 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars or something like that, really 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: interested in trading individual stocks, even individual stocks that are 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: chip makers, right before billions and billions of dollars gonna 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: go in subsidy form two chip makers in this country. 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it. It's kind of coincidental. I think 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: you could say we'll discuss that, but first I just 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: I had to take a moment here. Clay and I 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: are coting back and forth on just how are we 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: really going to do this thing where we allow the 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: people who were wrong about everything when it comes to 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: COVID after and in one year, think about the think 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: of the transformation in the narrative here in one year 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: last summer in July. If you were, and many people 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: in this audience were hesitant to get the shot, and 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: I could say, I have family. My parents got the shots, 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: but I have family that are that were I have 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: a pretty big family, and you look at cousins something else. 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: They were very hesitant to put it mildly, to get 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: any form of COVID shot. Didn't want to do it. 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: So I totally get it and refuse to do it. 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I should add I have I know people that didn't 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: want to do it, didn't care what the rules were, 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: and just weren't doing it. You know, they didn't live 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: anything like me. Yeah, well, but you don't live in 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: New York City, right, so it's right depends on where 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: you are. In Nashville. They weren't going to send the 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: vaccine stormtroopers to your door here in New York. It 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: felt like that was just day away. Um, but when 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: you when you see how much the narrative has changed 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a year ago at this time, if you didn't want 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: to get the shot, you were a reckless person. This 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: is the official narrative I'm saying they were. They were 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: telling you were a reckless person, putting people at risk. 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: Didn't care about science, didn't care about health, because the 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: shots were amazing. The shots were going to stop everybody 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: for even getting COVID, never mind severe disease. So this 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: is a montage of famous people, world leaders who are 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: who were saying, get the shot, it'll protect you, and 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: now or now or in the last you know, six 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: months or so, I have had to say it turns 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: out I got COVID. You're okay, You're not gonna You're 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: not gonna get COVID if you have these vaccinations. Hey, folks, 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: guess you heard the Sporting Night testifuds are COVID, and 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: are not going to get infected. Doctor Fauci says he 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: has COVID. Again. If you've done the right thing, you 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: have gotten vaccinated. You deserve the freedom to be safe 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: from COVID nineteen. And this morning I learned I tested 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: positive for COVID nineteen as well. With three doses, that 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: you can prevented not just from serious illness, but from 59 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: getting this virus, this omicron variant, and therefore giving it 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: to others. Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is in quarantine for 61 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: seven days after testing positive to COVID, so I'm fully vaccinated. 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: It gives me some comfort. Anthony alban Easy has just 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: tested positive a coronavirus, and that's a that's just a 64 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: smattering of world leaders. You had Biden Trudeau of Canada, 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Fauci himself, get the shot. 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: You'll be fine, you won't get COVID. Oh, they got COVID. 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: And that is a phenomenal video. I tweeted it out. 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: I think on Sunday enjoyed watching it just because they 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: did a great job of juxtaposing you'll never get COVID 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: with them announcing they all got COVID after the shots. 71 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: The reason why I think it's also significant is because 72 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: that was about a year ago that they were all 73 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: saying that, all of those leaders who were mandating and 74 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: forcing you to get COVID, Remember they initially said it 75 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: will keep you from getting and spreading COVID. That was 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: the justification for why they needed to have mandates that 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: effectively COVID would end if everybody got shots. What are 78 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: they going to be saying a year from now, think 79 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: about just think about that. We had Alex Barnson on 80 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: July of last year, about this time, and he came 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: on and he was one of the first people, and 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: we were one of the first shows to be willing 83 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: to say, Hey, this COVID shot, it isn't going to 84 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: end COVID. There are going to be a lot of 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: breakthrough cases. There are going to be a lot of 86 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: issues with it. At that point in time, you were 87 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: barely allowed to even mention that those of you out 88 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: there listening, No, we were on the front edges of 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: telling you where we were headed. Buck. I'm concerned that 90 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: a year from now, this is my concern, not saying 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: that I know it, I'm saying this is my concern. 92 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: I'm concerned based on the data that a year from 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: now it is going to become widely accepted that the 94 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: COVID shots have led to faster mutations in the COVID virus. 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: Because remember, so that would be a version of or 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's a people talked about Joe Rogan talked 97 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: about last summer Marek's syndrome or Marek's disease, I should 98 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: say not Maeric's in Americ's disease in chickens, and even 99 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: the chief researcher for this came out to say, oh, 100 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: that would never apply to these are I'm just to 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: be clear, these are things you're not even you weren't 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: allowed to say, and you're saying you think it might 103 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: be heading to a revisiting if you just look at 104 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: the trajectory of what was being said last year compared 105 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: to what is commonly accepted wisdom today. Remember, go back 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: in time. You're back to the future machine. It's going 107 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: to stop and prevent anybody from getting COVID. COVID is over. 108 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: It's a hot fact summer. Everybody go out and celebrate. 109 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: A year later, everybody now knows doesn't stop or spread. 110 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get boosters forever. And now they 111 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: try to say, buck well, it still prevents you from 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: getting seriously ill or needing to be hospitalized. I think 113 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: that argument, the seriously ill in hospitalized argument. I think 114 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 1: a year from now is going to be mostly gone 115 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: to And so my concern is not just with playing 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that clip to show you how wrong a year later 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: all of those people who told you those things were. 118 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: My concern is what are they wrong about today that 119 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: a year from now is going to sound just like 120 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: that and a few things that are These are facts. 121 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: These are observable facts that you don't have to have 122 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: a medical degree of any kind, have any specialty to know. 123 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: Vaccines never get approved this quickly. We approved this vaccine 124 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: at a speed that is completely unparalleled in history. Right, 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: there's never been a vaccine that has gone this fast. 126 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Originally we were told, oh, well, that's because it's so amazing, 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: but as we all see, there was a lot that 128 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: they clearly either they didn't know or they just blatantly 129 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: lied to really billions of people about the effectiveness of 130 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the vaccine. Those are the only options because it is 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: not as effective as they told us it would be. 132 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: But they've never gotten a vaccine done this quickly, and 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: they have also never had such a broad spectrum global 134 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: vaccination campaign based on a vaccine that was done this quickly. 135 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Point here being we were in uncharted territory never before 136 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: done in the history of the human species. And if 137 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: you had any questions, you were treated like a troglodyte. 138 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: You were treated as if you were an anti science monster. 139 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: And a lot of the people who were asking questions 140 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: specifically about efficacy were one hundred percent right and let's 141 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: play this, because your point on either they knew and 142 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: they lied or they just didn't know. I'm inclined to 143 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: think most people didn't know because they didn't have a 144 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: long enough track record of data. And it looked like 145 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: these vaccines did work really well for the few months 146 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: that they tested them, and then certainly the protection fades rapidly. 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: But doctor Burkes said, I knew these vaccines weren't going 148 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: to protect against infection. I think we overplayed the vaccines. Now, 149 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: she said, lots of crazy stuff of late, But I 150 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: want you to play this. This is doctor Fauci's compadre. 151 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: This is one of the top experts in the entire 152 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: nin on COVID and now saying, hey, you know what, 153 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: I knew they weren't really going to work that Well. Listen, 154 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people looking at the president now having 155 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: this all these people who have been fully vaccinated and 156 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: boosted and all that, and they're getting it. The twenty 157 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: percent or so of Americans who have not been vaccinated 158 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: might look at that doctor and say, well, why bother? 159 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: What do you tell them? Well, if you're across the 160 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: South and you're in the middle of this way, what's 161 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: going to save you right now as pax slovid. But 162 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: once we get through this wave, during that law, you 163 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: should get vaccinated and boosted because we do believe it 164 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: will protect you, particularly if you're over seventy. I knew 165 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: these vaccines were not going to protect against infection, and 166 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: I think we overplayed the vaccines and it made people 167 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: then worry that it's not going to protect against severe 168 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: disease and hospitalization. It will. No, No, just just notice 169 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: that the twist. They're very important. Oh, it made people worry. 170 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: What you're saying is you lied to us, and then people, 171 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: in response to the lie had questions about the other 172 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: things you said. That's called rational. That is what an 173 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: intelligent person would do. If someone tells me, I've got 174 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: a stock pick for you buck U guarantine, it's gonna 175 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: go up, and I lose my ass on it. Then 176 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: they tell me the second time, I've got another stock pick, 177 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna listen to my next stock tip. 178 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't thinking about you there, But you 179 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: know we're gonna have We're gonna have to do a 180 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: little more due diligence there, mister Clay Travis. Point here 181 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: being yes, point here, being she is taking no responsibility 182 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: for the initials. She says it overplaying. They either were 183 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: incredibly wrong or allied. And also just this is interesting 184 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: because people like Fauci and Burke's always referred to as 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: top experts. And I want to remind everybody as someone 186 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: who worked in the federal government and will tell you 187 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: that at the SEA, I can only speak for the CIA. 188 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: The smartest people I knew in the CIA were overwhelmingly 189 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: being harassed by the bureaucracy for something stupid and very 190 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: rarely made it past ten years, usually past five years, right, 191 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they just the people that I knew. It's 192 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: true across the federal bureaucracy. They want to leave because 193 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: they just can't deal with the bureaucracy and the madness anymore. Okay, 194 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: they can't deal with this new pit. There are people 195 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: in very high places. John Brennan was a CI director. 196 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: John Brennan is an idiot. Okay, he worked for Obama 197 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: as the counter terrorisms are a d and I Clapper 198 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: not a very smart guy. You could say they were 199 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: top experts in the realm of intelligence, but you would 200 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: just be talking about their longevity in the bureaucracy. Not 201 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: being right, not being smart, not knowing the way to go. 202 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: In the health bureaucracy, it's even more the case. If 203 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: you're there the longest, you're the most respected. You know, 204 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: in the actual medical field. You know, there are some 205 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: guys who are the best heart surgeon. You gotta wait 206 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: six months to see them because everybody knows they're the 207 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: best heart surgeon. Burks and Fauci are bureaucrats nothing more. Yeah, 208 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: and they were bureaucrats who were one hundred percent wrong. 209 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: So if Fauci and Burks told us this would prevent 210 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: and stop the spread, keep you from getting it, and 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: stop you from spreading COVID a year ago, why do 212 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: you believe them now when they say you still should 213 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: go get COVID shot because it'll keep you from being 214 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: severely ill or dying. Buck. You know this. Our data 215 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: is not very well shared or distributed right now in 216 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: the United States, but they are an awful lot of 217 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: countries out there where people who got the COVID shot 218 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: and people who got this idea that they were going 219 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: to be protected are dying at high rates. So my 220 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: concern is a year from now, we're going to be 221 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: saying that the COVID shot also doesn't protect you that 222 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: much from severe illness or death a year from now. 223 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I think that's where we're going. So there were things 224 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: that you were not allowed to even discuss publicly about 225 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: the vaccine all along. I brought up Marricks and the 226 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: New York Times and all this. When I said I 227 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: brought up I mentioned before, right, Joe Rogan famously talked 228 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: about Marik's disease, which is a disease of chickens where 229 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: there's effectively a selection process for a more virulent strain 230 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: of the virus, a more dangerous end of the virus, 231 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: in response to a vaccination campaign. It took like ten 232 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: years for this to actually manifest. He just up and 233 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I think that was some of the most heat he's 234 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: ever come under for that. Right, it was last summer 235 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: he talked about Marricks on his show. If you even 236 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: brought up something, there's something called antibody dependent enhancement. But 237 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: these are things I've learned. I'm just googling these things. 238 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor or whatever. But if you learn 239 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: about this, it's existed where, or rather it's happened where 240 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: a couple of times a vaccine has actually resulted in 241 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: a second exposure to a pathogen, a virus that was 242 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: essentially it made it worse. Now, that would be a word, 243 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: that would be the absolute worst case scenario situation of 244 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: a vaccine. It doesn't seem like that's happening here. To 245 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: be clear, that's not what seems to be happening. My 246 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: point in bringing up is just you weren't even allowed 247 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: to talk about it. You don't even allow to say, hey, 248 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: is this a problem, and doctors said no, no no, guys, 249 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: don't worry. Yes, that's a real thing, but it's not 250 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: happening in this case based on the data. What you're 251 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: talking about, though, could be we talked to Alex about this, 252 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: or the concept of original antigenic sin, which means that 253 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: your immune system is trained based upon a vaccine in 254 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: a way that can wrong foot it when it encounters 255 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: the virus a second time, so you have a slightly 256 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: slower response or slightly is that happening. We need to 257 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: look at the data. But you brought up any three 258 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: of those things before Clay. People wanted you fired from 259 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: your job. People wanted to ruin you. Instead of saying no, 260 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: let's talk about this and explain why it's not happening. 261 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: And also I think it's just relevant because if you're 262 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: that wrong a year ago, why should you trust that 263 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: what they're telling you today is accurate. And Alex Barns 264 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: had been writing about this, and he asks you a 265 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: good question. The mutations of COVID seem to be accelerating. 266 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: That is, we are getting newer variants more and more rapidly. 267 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: Why is that. I don't plays say this because I 268 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: said this. I said this to talk to some friends 269 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: amount of the weekend about this. If a doctor wears 270 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: a mask because they have to wear a mask because 271 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: it's hospital policy, I'll give them a pass. If a 272 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: doctor actually believes that me wearing a cloth mask for 273 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: our close face to face interaction is doing anything to 274 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: help anybody, I no longer trust their professional judgment. It's 275 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: a rule now for me just say that's a right rule. 276 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: And if somebody wears a mask too often, they probably 277 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: also suffer from low testosterone. I feel quite confident about that, 278 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: which leads us into our fantastic advertiser chalk. 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There's 356 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: a lot of back and forth because remember this midterm 357 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: is going to really determine the rest of the Biden presidency. 358 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: Is it effectively a almost lame duck for two years. 359 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Biden presidents either some budgetary things and executive orders he'll 360 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: be able to do. But if the Congress is entirely 361 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: in Republican hands, Senate and House very tough for Biden 362 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: to get any I mean impossible to get any sweeping 363 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: legislation done essentially, and therefore not a whole lot in 364 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: terms of the Biden agenda, other than spending, which at 365 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 1: a time of high inflation is almost a there's a 366 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: degree of self restraining reality. I think that happens when 367 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: you have super high inflation. Although keep in mind the 368 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Biden administration did want to spend five trillion dollars as 369 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: recently as January, so they may go back to something 370 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: like that. All that said, we're trying to make sure 371 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: that we and we do have a candidate joining us 372 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: in the third hour of the program. We want to 373 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: make sure you hear from as many of our Republican 374 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: contenders as possible. We don't endorse anyone in primaries, but 375 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: we want to give you, our beloved listeners, the chance 376 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: to hear from as many of the big names out 377 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: there in Senate races, in house races where we can. 378 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: There's obviously a lot of house races, so we can't 379 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: have them all on. So we'll have Jim Lamont joining 380 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: us in the third hour to talk about his bid 381 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: for a Senate seat in the great State of Arizona. 382 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: We've got a huge audience in Phoenix, and Clay, what 383 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: are we number two? Three? No? Oh no, no, I 384 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: don't think. I think we're number one in Phoenix, number 385 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: one in Phoenix, and I believe number one in Tucson. 386 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: So we got Arizona State and we got Arizona both 387 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: covered CNB, NBD. So we are very excited to be 388 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: joined by him later on. And I would just say 389 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of back and forth right now in 390 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: GOP circles, not so much about because we just we 391 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: just want to run off the scoreboard, right So every 392 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: Republican sitting around Clay saying, we you know, we need 393 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: a reckoning, we need blue annihilation, a red wave. I mean, 394 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: all the fun analogies and metaphors and similes and whatever 395 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: we could throw at this, we're gonna be doing. That's clear, 396 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: and and it would be for me more than more 397 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: than even in the economy, as much as it can be, 398 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: a slapdown of the COVID madness, is for in my mind, 399 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the most important possible outcome we can have, because the 400 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: COVID lockdowns in so many ways led to the disastrous 401 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: UH inflation and the and the economy being so painful 402 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: for people right now on the brink of the recession 403 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: being official. But should Trump announce before this mid term. 404 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: This is getting a lot of talk in GOP circles, 405 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: and one thing is that we might actually have the 406 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: president former president joining us on Friday here on the show. 407 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: We're trying to set that up to talk about well, 408 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: a lot of issues. Here is Polster Frank Luntz, who 409 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately is a very He's a faucci I did you 410 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: know that he's a big fauci guy. Yeah, he's been 411 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: angry at me one angry me on Twitter, and I'm 412 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: just like, dude, go triple mask. It will keep you safer, 413 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: double mask plus plexiglass screen or else you don't take Lunz, 414 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: you don't take the virus seriously. Fifth dot will take 415 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: care of it once and for all. One, two, three, 416 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: four didn't work, but five, five, six, and seven will 417 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: definitely the magic one man. That's where you really you know, 418 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: at that point, you know, it's almost like when Spider 419 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: Man gets bit by the Radioactive Spider. You know, you 420 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: might get superpowers, maybe you can shoot some webs out 421 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: of your hands. Here's Frank lens Though talking about the 422 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: possibility of a Trump announcement before the midterms versus after. 423 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: More and more Republicans are saying enough, I don't want 424 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: to focus on the past. I want to focus on 425 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: the future. I don't want to focus on Donald Trump 426 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: and an election that is now two years old. I 427 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: want to focus on inflation. I want to focus on crime, 428 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: I want to focus on Ukraine. And this is causing 429 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: a significant problem for Trump, and I think it's the 430 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: reason why he's more likely than not to announce in 431 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two rather than the way till twenty twenty three. 432 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: And one final point, if he doesn't announce, he could 433 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: actually cost the Republicans the House as well as the Senate. 434 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: If the election is about the economy, Republicans win both. 435 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: If the elections about Donald Trump, Republicans lose both. Okay, 436 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: first of all, he's wrong. I Republicans are gonna win 437 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: the House and the houses locked. And if they don't, honestly, Clay, 438 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: it's time that we start looking at plots of land 439 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: in like Costa Rico or Palau or something, because you know, 440 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: it's smoke them if you got them, folks, because it's 441 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: America's over. Okay, If we if we can't win the 442 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: House in this environment, the Senate's gonna be close. Regardless. 443 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: You and I live in Realityville and five they're five 444 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: states in the Senate. But you're right, the House is 445 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: there no matter what happens between now and what we're 446 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: basically what ten weeks out effectively from November eighth election day, 447 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: and so the House is locked and loaded. The Senate 448 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: is going to come down to Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, UM, 449 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: Georgia and H and probably H and probably Wisconsin. Right, 450 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: if you had to say the five states that are 451 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: most going to decide things going forward, doesn't mean there 452 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: can't be upsets in other places, but those would be 453 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: the five, and things can go a lot a lot 454 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: of different directions, as those are very often regional based contest. 455 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: I think doctor Oz needs to get his act together, honestly, 456 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, Feederman is an incredibly weak candidate, is unhealthy, 457 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: It's not able to get out on the road. That's 458 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: one that Republicans must win, and he really needs to 459 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: start landing. Some Body blows in that fight. And I've 460 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: said this before, but I got cut off. Some of 461 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: you may have seen it yesterday, yesterday evening, I was 462 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: talking on Fox News and with Steve Hilton, and look, 463 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: he's a doctor, doctor Oz. How is he not getting 464 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: Fetterman on the record about can men get pregnant? Do 465 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: you believe that women should be competing in men's athletic events? 466 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: These are things that Democrat orthodoxy requires Fetterman to support. 467 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: Not to mention the fracking issue, which I think they're 468 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: starting to land. Somebody blows finally on that because Feederman 469 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: crazily blamed Republicans or high gas prices in a tweet, 470 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: which makes me believe that he's not that smart of 471 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: a candidate in general. But doctor Oz got to win 472 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: that race, Buck, and he's got to start landing. Some 473 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: body blows. And I know it was a bruising primary, 474 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: and I know there's a lot of you listening to 475 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: us in Pennsylvania that might have supported a variety of 476 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: different candidates. There. There were a lot of good ones, 477 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: three of them, We had all three of them on. 478 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: But Buck, this is this is a must win, must 479 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: hold Senate seat. And I am a little bit nervous 480 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: in some of these places that if Trump announces before 481 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the midterms that in these tight races in the Senate. 482 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: It could make a difference because it allows the candidates 483 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: to not have to run on Biden's economy and even 484 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: like down in Georgia. I don't know if you saw 485 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: this quote. Over the weekend, Raphael Warnock was asked whether 486 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: Biden had been a good president so far, and totally 487 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: dodged it. When you can't even say that your current 488 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: president is a good president, it's a pretty softball question. 489 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. When do you think we find out? 490 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: I got I got two things for you, Clay. One 491 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: is come back, when does bide in one way or 492 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: the other have to make a decision about whether he's 493 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: really gonna go for term two? And then also we 494 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: have I think we had a couple online. We might 495 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: have one more of some some airline pilots who have 496 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: some answers about what the heck is going on here? Oh, 497 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: people can love to hear that, because I think a 498 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: lot of folks it's summertime. I mean, I'm gonna be 499 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: traveling a whole lot in August. 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Talking about earlier in the show 539 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: something that I would imagine is impacting many of you 540 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: and your families, this travel disaster that is befalling the 541 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: entire country and certainly overseas as well. But in the 542 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: United States, if you travel very much, if you're on 543 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: airp if you're traveling for summer vacation, going to visit 544 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: friends and family. It is absolutely a mess, the likes 545 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: of which many of us haven't seen since nine to 546 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: eleven in terms of just trying to get around in 547 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: in the country. And we've got a caller from Tennessee. 548 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: I believe you're a pilot. You were explaining what exactly 549 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: is going on? What can you tell us about the 550 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: situation that you see as a pilot. Well, we have 551 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: an equipment list. It's got a minimum equipment list. When 552 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: we get to the end of the runway, that's our 553 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: final check to make sure everything works. And if something 554 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: doesn't work, we have to go back to the gate 555 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: with that list. It's an FA mandated document and that's 556 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: been the case for a long time. But what Buck 557 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: and I I think we're talking about to a large extent, 558 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: is the amount of delays, the amount of canceled flights. 559 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like it, and I know the 560 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: same thing is true for a lot of our listeners. 561 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: What are you seeing as a pilot in terms of 562 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: delays and cancelations? Why is this summer such a travel 563 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: nightmare for so many people? Well, mostly it's going to 564 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: be the pilots are being worked too hard. They're being pushed, 565 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: and they get the call whether they're fatigued or not. 566 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: Once they push a certain runit they there they actually say, look, 567 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: I can't safely fly anymore. So it's really about fatigue. 568 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: And the other thing is the airplane set for a 569 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: long time and didn't fly a lot, and airplanes don't 570 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: like that, so they tend to have a little more 571 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: problems done that they're unsafe, but they do have more 572 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: mechanical problems because they don't like to sit down very 573 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: long and when they set all that time, then some 574 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: things don't work as well. So that's that's a two 575 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: edged sword. But really it's a fatigue issue with the pilots. 576 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: They're being worked too hard. Why aren't there more? Why 577 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: are we having a pilot shortage now? Was it really 578 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: just during COVID there were a lot of early retirements 579 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: for pilots, like what what is causing I? Actually I 580 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: actually am an early retirement. I retired last year or 581 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: year before last. They offered me a five year buyout 582 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: to leave early because they didn't think where we're gonna 583 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: get back to fly in and other every airline had 584 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: some type of a retirement package, and I took one, 585 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting at home getting paid not to fly, 586 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: and I've considered actually going back to fly in I 587 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: was going to say, I bet you could get a 588 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: great deal right now if you wanted to go fly 589 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: for somebody else. So this is interesting, this is interesting. 590 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling in. So one of the issues 591 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: was demand went to virtually non existent right in the 592 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: spring and summer of twenty twenty. There weren't very many 593 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: people flying. Airlines were trying to cut costs, and one 594 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: way they did that was by encouraging some pilots with 595 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: seniority to retire. And then things have bounced back in 596 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: terms of air travel so much faster that they've been 597 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: caught now not having enough supply to fit the demand. 598 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: Is that fairly basic explanation as you would see it 599 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: as a pilot. Absolutely, that's that's a great way to 600 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: put it, because you know, walking around the airports, there's 601 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: no airport, there's no food, there's no people, there's nobody 602 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: on the airplanes, and you know, it was kind of 603 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: scary for me and the job. But then when they 604 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: offered the buyout, I didn't think they would recover this 605 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: quick and I don't think they did either. And all 606 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden it's back to full capacity and they 607 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: can't get the people back online. So it really is 608 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: it's a it's a problem for every airline, not just 609 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: so how long. I think thanks for the call, by 610 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: the way, I think Buck, you and I and everybody 611 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: out there, and that was a really interesting call. I 612 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of us out there are just saying, Okay, 613 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: we understand the supply demand situation has fluctuated a great 614 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: deal in two years. How long is this going to 615 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: take to get people rehired and back in positions where 616 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: they can be flying as much as they need and 617 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: working on the planes and everything else. It's like everywhere 618 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: they have an issue, you'd think. I mean, I don't 619 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: believe that government is a solution to everything or even 620 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: most things. It is interesting, though, that the Biden administration 621 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: pretty recently declared or they wanted to invoke the usage 622 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: of the Defense Defense Authorization Act the Defense Production Act 623 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: for solar panels. And you would think that they could 624 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: do a whole lot more to help the American people 625 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: if they could get more oil production and more pilots, right, 626 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's let's encourage we just had 627 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: a call or said he took the earlier. It's exactly 628 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: what I've heard, which is that a lot of guys 629 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: went into early retirement. The airlines totally misallocated resources or 630 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: didn't plan properly for what was going to happen as 631 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: COVID faded. Because what I think one thing that didn't 632 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: anticipate was that a lot of people feel like, oh 633 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, not only did I not get to travel 634 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: during COVID the way I wanted to life is short. Man. 635 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: My time on this asteroid that's floating around in the 636 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: in the in the Virgo supercluster or whatever is short. 637 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: It's not an asteroid, but you get what I'm saying. 638 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: This rock in space, you know this thing. We don't 639 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of time here. Man. I've been I 640 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: was watching these TikTok accounts that were all about travel 641 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: to Scotland. Clay Man, first chance again. I want to 642 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: go check out Scotland just because I think did You're right, 643 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: there's a massive amount of people this summer making up 644 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: for not having traveled the previous two summers. But this 645 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it's going to be a rapid fix. Nope. 646 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: It feels like during the fall is going to be 647 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: a mess. And then we always know it's a mess 648 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: during the holiday season, and that doubles the stress because 649 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: you don't have that much time built in for Thanksgiving 650 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: or Christmas or whatever you're celebrating with your family. This 651 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be a mess for the 652 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: rest of the year. Oh absolutely. And it hurts by 653 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: the way that a lot of a lot of business travel, 654 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, is a huge component of the airline's bottom line. 655 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: And think about this, You and I are doing stuff. Wow, 656 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: we could always do it in a different station, or 657 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're very flexible with radio. Thank heavens. For 658 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people, if you missed that flight and 659 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: they can only get you there two days later, meeting 660 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: over like didn't happen, so itaction over, yeah, or vacational. 661 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: But I mean for a lot of business travelers, they're 662 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: gonna say, I guess we got a zoom because I can't. 663 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: You can't assume you're gonna get from New York to 664 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Minneapolis or Salt Lake and you know in one day, 665 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: did you know that they've reinstituted the mask bandate for 666 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: TSA workers. Have you noticed this every single TSA workers? 667 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: First time I noticed it at Fort Lauderdale, where I 668 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: was flying in and out of was wearing a mask, 669 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: and I asked and they said, yeah. A few weeks 670 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: ago they told us that all TSA workers had to 671 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: go back to wearing masks. I had no idea that 672 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: was going on. Did you know that TSA had been 673 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the mask bandate reinstituted. They're gonna keep on slowly, but 674 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: surely the boa constrictor of fauci stupidity is going to 675 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: start squeezing out our freedom's clay. That's the way it's 676 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: going to happen, no doubt, And we come back. Even 677 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: if you live in a red state, your kids might 678 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: have to wear masks to school starting back up this fall. 679 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: If you don't believe me, you're gonna want to hear 680 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: about what happened in Kentucky. That's next