WEBVTT - Trump Is Back, Now What? 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:08.000 I am transgender. When I saw that Trump was winning tonight, 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:10.160 I came to a realization. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.119 Which was that I was terrified as there would be 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.799 people empowered by this election who would want to hurt me. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:20.280 This is one of the day for our country. It's 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:21.639 wonderful day for patriots. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:23.480 Love constitution. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.480 So my TikTok family. So I just had a very 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:33.199 difficult conversation with my daughters. One is crying and I 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.040 had to keep telling her It's going to be okay. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:42.520 Dear listener, geig egdy them. This week has been quite 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.440 a moment that our country is still processing. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.519 NBC News can now project that Donald Trump's he is 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:51.920 the winner of this race and returned to the White House, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.240 is this country's forty seventh president. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.640 One of the very important keys to Donald Trump's victory 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.960 was getting a larger share of votes from tinos or CBOs. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.679 Donald Trump will be President of the United States again. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.039 This is the same candidate who began his run for 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.600 the White House by insulting Mexican immigrants in twenty fifteen 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.759 and allowed Puerto Rico to be called an island full 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.840 of garbage just a few days ago. This election cycle, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.360 Trump used lies and hate speech to win over voters, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.759 survived two assassination attempts, and will return to office as 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:33.080 a convicted felon after a stunning victory with an impressive 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.080 larger support from Latinos and Latina voters than in twenty 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.560 sixteen and in twenty twenty. But considering what we at 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.480 Futuro Media have seen on the ground, this result is 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:50.000 not totally unexpected. For the past year, we've been bringing 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.280 you different stories as part of our special election coverage, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.520 which we called the Latino Factor How We Vote. We 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.400 covered the key issues impacting this election, and with each 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.560 story we were able to sense that Latinos and Latinas 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:09.799 were trending towards the right, towards Donald Trump, and we acknowledged, 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.360 of course, that our community is not and has never 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.079 been a monolith. There are Latinos and Latinas who are 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.480 overjoyed that Donald Trump will have another term in office, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.400 and there are many of us who are in fear, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.880 who are angry, and who are preparing for the worst. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.959 So today we're going to start off our show by 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.240 taking you on my very own journey on election Day, 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:40.560 and then we're going to analyze just how we got here. Now, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.840 while for many people, election day ended on a dark 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.640 note here in Harlem, in my community, it didn't start 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:54.440 that way. Well, it's five twenty eight and I just 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.000 woke up two minutes before my alarm is set to 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:02.399 go off. Dear listener, It's November fifth, It's election day, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.400 and I didn't sleep well because, like many of you 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.240 across the country, I was anxious. I kept on tossing 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.720 and turning. But you know, here we are today's day. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.760 It is five point fifty seven. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.720 Walking out the door, so I'm heading off to my 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.079 Pulling precinct, and you know, I've got a little skip 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.960 in my walk because i live in Harlem, a historically 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.000 black community, and a black woman is running for the presidency. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:37.200 And it's a beautiful day. Oh my gosh, it's beautiful 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.520 out here. Wow. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:40.840 Okay, So pulling up to the precinct, which is actually 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.760 a school, I see that there's like maybe a dozen 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.760 people ahead of me. Yo, y'all are some serious early birds? 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.640 Are you excited about quoting? Today? Everybody up to vote 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.840 this morning? Love that? 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.880 And now it's my turn to vote. We have just 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.240 in the ballot, so the mission is accomplished, and I'm 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.600 feeling relieved. I'm feeling excited about the day, and I 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.160 you know, I want to talk to some of the 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.480 folks out here, see how they're doing. How are you 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:18.080 feeling about today. I'm optimistic Kawana Malloyd, though she's letting 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.000 on that she's feeling a sense of dread too. You 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:25.400 seeing election boxes being blown up and things like that. So, yeah, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.279 Kawana is talking about ballot boxes being set on fire 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.120 in Washington State and in Oregon. But it didn't mean 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.760 that that was going to stop her from coming out 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.360 here to vote. And it didn't stop forty two year 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.800 old Robert he didn't want to tell us his last name. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:40.080 Though. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.720 It was about protecting the rights of women, them having 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.560 a choice of voice in terms of automoy to their 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.599 own bodies and things like that, most importantly, and it 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.880 didn't stop Ramon Bargas, who's ninety one years old, who 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.320 told me that his primary issue for coming out to 0:04:55.400 --> 0:05:06.800 vote was defending women's rights. He thinks that if a 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.880 woman's life is in danger, abortion should be a legal option. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.680 So I'm just remaining cool, calm. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:19.400 So like you, dear listener, you were probably feeling excited, 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.600 maybe feeling cool and calm on election day, but as 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.440 the day progressed, that feeling would dissipate and the day 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:37.200 would become much darker. From futuro Media and PRX it's 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.480 Latino Usa, I'm Mariao Hosa Today, a special episode on 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.960 this week's historic election in collaboration with Futuro Media's In 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:56.640 the Thick podcast, So Dear listener. Around the same time 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.600 that I was waking up on election Day, so were 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.320 the concer struction workers in the battleground state of Pennsylvania 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.839 with its nineteen electoral votes. Whoever gets this state will 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:17.680 likely win this election. Sehio, a construction worker, is the 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.840 father of two US citizens his children, and today he's 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.280 getting ready to go to work. But on this day, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:30.760 producer Ariel Goodman is visiting him in his home. Seedho 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.840 is originally from Mexico. He's worked for twenty years building 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:39.800 the city of Philadelphia lane sheet rock, fixing houses. But 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:44.680 while his hands have helped build this city, he's actually 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.760 unable to cast a vote to determine its future, to 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:59.440 determine his family's future system we pull up to Sejo's 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.520 work site today. It's a house that has been gutted 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:07.000 down to the bones. Sehio tells us that he's worried 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.720 about what a future could look like under Donald Trump, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.239 who has promised a sweeping mass deportation campaign. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:23.800 Reportation poor K's come. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:35.360 On, Serio says, deportation destroys you psychologically. Then Setio's wife, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:40.000 Maria says the hate from Trump only makes her stronger. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.160 Maria says that strength is in our dna. We learn 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.120 to survive no matter where we are. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.920 Hia, Yes, valor forstems. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.760 As election day unfolds. Another place on people's minds is 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:12.560 the state of Florida. This past May, a six week 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.160 abortion ban went into effect in the state of Florida. Now, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.000 that is one of the strictest bands in the nation, 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.600 and it sparked a political fight in the state that 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.480 involved a lot of Latinos and Latinas. So I'm calling 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.880 dere saguzmain at Florida Rising, which is a statewide political 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:37.360 organization dedicated to building power in communities of color. So 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.920 it is now ten thirty nine in the morning on 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.280 the East Coast. Can you tell us what that feels 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.760 like in terms of Saint Petersburg, Florida, where you are 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.560 right now, We have. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:55.360 Been able to build a coalition of people that are Latino, Black, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.120 all kinds of folk really invested in this idea that 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.040 we all have bodily autonomy and that we believe that 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.439 our laws should reflect that. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.880 If Florida voters vote for Amendment four, they would overturn 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.880 the six week abortion ban. Chiao Balleerro is with the 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.320 National Latina Institute for Reproductive Justice. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.040 She's in Miami. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.040 What we're finding in the work that we're doing in 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.160 Spanish speaking communities in very conservative areas is that there 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.200 is overwhelming support for this, regardless of party affiliation. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.120 Back in New York City, it's early afternoon, it's still 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:46.160 a gorgeous day, and I'm going over to Columbia University 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.440 for the encampments. This was an open campus. There were 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.680 people from the community who would walk through here, parents 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:58.000 and kids, people would walk their dogs like me. So 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.439 students at Columbia Universe built an encampment on the campus 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:07.439 to protest Israel's war on Gaza and the university's investment 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.480 in Israel. And ever since then the campus has become closed. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.600 So we have come to talk to some students see 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.240 how they're feeling. I ran into Dimitri. He's from the 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.280 battleground state of Michigan. He voted by absentee ballot. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.960 So how important has what. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:30.000 Happened on this campus in terms of the encampments influencing. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.640 You as a student. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.679 I would never begrudge anyone for withholding their vote for 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.559 Harris at this point because of the policies in the 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.599 Middle East. I don't believe in everything that Harris stands for, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.040 but obviously she's getting my vote because the alternative is 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:44.000 not an alternative. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.679 During the primaries, Michigan voters sent a strong message to 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:55.439 Democrats about their disapproval of the Biden Harris administration stance 0:10:56.040 --> 0:11:00.640 on the war on Gaza by voting uncommitted in those primaries. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.000 It's the middle of election day, and so I called 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.360 a leader of that movement. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.760 My name is Roe Roman. I'm a Georgia state representative, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.480 and I'm speaking to you from Georgia. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.280 Representative Roman is the first Palestinian to ever be elected 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.400 to the state government of Georgia. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.199 I want to be clear things are not good now, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.560 like with student protesters and police departments coming after them 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.880 and violently arresting them and violently displacing their encampments and stuff. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.120 For the difference is that it's not on a federal level. Now, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.880 take everything you're seeing and not only federalizing it, but 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.520 making it even worse. And my worries that under a 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.040 Trump presidency, that's what's going to happen. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.720 She tells me she voted for Harris, but then says, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.920 regardless of who wins. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.760 We're going to keep pressuring our elected officials. For me, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:48.440 voting is the beginning of a conversation. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.200 But in this election, a group that has been central 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:58.640 to that conversation, yet perhaps the most misunderstood group is Yes, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.400 Latinos and Latiness. So I'm going to call Marisa Franco 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.000 in Phoenix, Arizona. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.319 I'm the national director from MIHINTA, which is a national 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:13.200 LATINX and Chica next organization fighting for economic, racial, gender, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:14.160 climate justice. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:19.040 Madisa helped to build the coalition of grassroots organizations that 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.280 flipped Arizona blue in twenty twenty for the first time 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:27.760 in decades. But in this election, the state is projected 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.640 to go for Trump, and Mariisa says that for her 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.720 community right now, everything is on the line. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.560 What's at stake is a full throttle backwards motion. We'll 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.280 be fighting to protect things that were won by our 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:46.319 predecessors decades ago. We will be fighting to keep reforms 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.719 one that weren't enough, and we will be really in 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.160 a fight to defend ourselves to prevent more harm. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.839 Mariisa is saying that she's feeling like there could be 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.240 a Trump victory and that this for Marisa and her 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:02.920 community would be dire. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.719 I understand Trump as a manifestation of a legacy that 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.240 is ugly in this country, and I think the changes 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.360 that they'll look to do inside of the executive branch 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.719 and the judicial branch will damn us for decades to come. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.559 It's now getting darker in New York City. The polls 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.719 start closing in several states, the results start coming in, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.040 and we hear that Florida has been called for Trump, 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:40.760 and that Miami Dade County, which was reliably blue, has 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.480 now gone Republican for the first time since nineteen eighty eight. 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.440 So my mood is beginning to feel a little bit different. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.400 We're making our way now to the Bronx, to the 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.440 South Bronx, specifically to a restaurant named Sona Deekua. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:58.800 To go talk to. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:03.320 Fernandoadeo is a Trump supporter and is the owner of Sonadgo. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.920 Fernando Matteo and I met back in the nineteen nineties 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.800 when I was reporting about his work giving toys for guns, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:15.440 but I haven't seen him in a couple of decades. Tonight, 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.400 at his restaurant, people can come to the restaurant and 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.200 either order a blue plate if they're supporting Harris, or 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.120 they can order a red plate if they're supporting Trump. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:31.040 So why did you decide to have the red dishes 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.720 and the blue dishes for Election night? 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.880 Trump came to the Bronx a few times, so I 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.080 wanted to know where he stood right now. And to 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.480 be quite honest with you, we have so more Trump 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.360 dishes than we have Camelot dishes. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.520 So what does that say to you about Latinos. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:50.520 And the Bronx. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.440 I think that Latinos are tired of the same rhetoric. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.920 I think that they want something new, they want opportunity, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.520 and they believe that Trump is a that's going to 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:01.440 bring the opportunity. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.040 So to be clear, for Nanda, you're one hundred percent 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.160 on board with a nasty importation policy. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.880 No, no, I'm not on board with anything that's going 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:13.000 to hurt our community. I'm on board with the direction 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.200 that I like the country to go in. I'm on 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.240 board for the economy, I'm on board for opportunity. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.000 Before I leave, Fernando kind of points a finger at 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.760 me and says he wants to tell me his prediction. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.440 I honestly believe that he is going to be president 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.320 of the United States, whether. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.280 You like it or not. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.160 It's about ten o'clock. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:44.040 I'm going to head back home, and it's definitive that 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:48.040 Trump is leading now. Of course, nothing feels final, but 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:53.120 my excitement from the beginning of the morning. It's definitely changing. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.760 We've got quite a few battlegrounds still pending tonight. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.920 Pennsylvania the biggest prize, eighty four percent of the vote, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.320 and it is too close to Colin. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.040 So I'm home now and I'm getting into bed with 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.160 my three puppies. I feel very unsure of what's gonna 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.920 happen overnight, and I force myself to close my eyes 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.480 and get some sleep. Now, at seven point thirty, I 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.040 finally decided I had to look and see what happened, 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.160 and I'm. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.840 Scared and I just don't want to live in fear. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.280 Coming up on Latino USA, a much needed roundtable conversation 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.480 to dissect what happened. I'll be joined by journalist paul Ramos, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.160 my co host from In the Thick. Also joining me 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.640 is Jin Guerrero, an opinion writer for The New York Times, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.880 and Jamille Smith, the editor in chief of The Emancipator. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.120 We're gonna look at Trump's victory and how he got here. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:57.720 Stay with us not by yes, Hey, dear listener, Welcome 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.880 back to Latino USA. On this special election episode in 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:06.120 collaboration with Futuro Media's political podcast In the Thick, We're 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.879 going to turn out to our roundtable to unpack the 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.440 results and how and why Trump was able to reclaim 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:19.600 the presidency with substantial Latino support. We're joined by Gin Guerrero, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.480 journalist and contributing an opinion writer for The New York Times. 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:23.920 Welcome back to the show. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.240 Gen, good to be here, Maria, and by Jamil Smith, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.000 editor in chief of The Emancipator. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:29.800 Welcome back to. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.520 You, Jamil, Thank you for having me. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:33.280 And we're going to welcome. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.200 Paula Ramo's journalist and author and one of my co 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.359 anchors at In the Thick, hey, Madia, And by now 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.040 everybody knows that Donald Trump has been declared the winner. 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.160 He surpassed the two hundred and seventy electoral votes needed. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.959 He's becoming the first US president with a felony conviction 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.200 and the second one to win a non consecutive reelection. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.040 But let's start the way we always start our politics conversations, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.800 which is with a temperature check. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:00.879 I e. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:01.720 How you're feeling. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.600 This is a challenging question, but we're going to start 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.840 with you, Jene Gomas. What's your temperature check? 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:09.040 Right now? 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:13.960 I'm feeling that this is a profoundly dark and depressing moment, 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.119 and I'm clear eyed on the fact that this is 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:22.000 a victory for fascism. But I refuse to give in 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.159 to despair. I wrote a piece recently in response to 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.399 the racist comments about Puerto Rico at Madison Square Garden, 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.800 where I wrote that I learned to be American from 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.600 my Puerto Rican mother, who taught me to love this 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.840 country and to work hard for this country and to 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.160 defend the vulnerable in this country. And if I'm being honest, Maddy, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.040 it feels very hard to love this country today. But 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.600 I am going to choose love, because I know that 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.680 it's exactly what the demagogues don't want. They don't want 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.960 us to keep fighting for a vision of America where 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:56.959 all people are created equal. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.639 Also, we know, Gene, that you like to dance and 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.760 you like to get on that skateboard, so I know. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.520 That you'll be doing I'm going to be doing a lot. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.800 You'll be doing that a lot. Jamille, what's your temperature check? 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:10.320 Hot? 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.200 Very hot? I would say, both in the terms of 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.600 being hot headed and the fact that it's more than 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.680 seventy degrees here in Boston in November, so you know, 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.760 both in a physical sense and a spiritual sense. I 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:27.680 would say also that despondent is similarly to my friend Gene. 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.600 I'm also looking for ways to focus this emotion into 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.760 productive outcomes. And today we have to rest, we have 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.840 to grieve, and we have to rebuild and resist, and 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.880 the amount of time we spend on each of those 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.720 things is going to vary depending upon how we feel. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.920 But we do need to make sure that we take 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.600 care of ourselves and those we love and those we 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.280 care for in those frankly who we represent. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:56.680 Paula, what's your temperature check? 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.680 Loug Maria I spent watching the results with several mixed 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:05.200 status families, young Latinos, US born Latinos whose parents aren't 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.920 documented moms have DAKA, and I have to tell you, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:12.040 within three hours, they went from feeling extremely hopeful from 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.879 finally believing that in Harris there was the possibility of 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.520 seeing real changes, and then the mood changed completely, and 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.080 I think the reality kicked in in a very visceral way, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:28.919 and their faces, some of them, turned into tears because 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.800 I think even some people that I spoke to were 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:35.080 contemplating the possibility of even self deporting, and parents that 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.000 were thinking about going back to Mexico, and families that 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:42.359 were contemplating separating, moms that were thinking about this question 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.200 that they hadn't thought since the days of share Jarpaya, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.000 which is who will have custody of my children? And 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.440 so it's a lot of mixed emotions, a lot of 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:52.280 mixed emotions. 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:56.159 For me, I'm feeling a lot of responsibility in the 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.879 sense of, you know, people turned to Latino USA. They 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.280 turned to in the thick not only to be educated 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.040 and informed, but also to kind of receive a light 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:11.200 from us. And so I'm pretty gutted although this is not. 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:15.240 I'm not blindsided because our reporting was basically pointing to this. 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.360 But I'm giving myself a little bit of grace as 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.840 we kind of process, because you know, I'm not going anywhere, right, 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.240 I mean, what's our lemma here is yes. So we're 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.960 not going anywhere, and we just have to figure out 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:32.480 how we do better journalism over the next four years. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.000 Let's talk about some of the results. 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:38.199 Right. 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.600 Trump managed to swing back states that Biden had won 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:47.440 in twenty twenty, including Yes, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and the 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.240 ever important Pennsylvania. But even in states where Kamala Harris 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.679 did win, like New Mexico and Virginia, the victory margin 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.240 was still slimmer than Biden's four years ago, and results 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:03.080 from counties wide have indicated the same thing, essentially a 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.840 shift to the right. I would say, a shift towards 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.399 believing in what the right is. 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:13.080 Telling you to believe. Jamille, We're going to start with you. 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.520 You know, we're hearing that this could be explained by 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.160 so many things, right, sexism, racism, because Harris didn't break 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.720 with Biden on certain issues, for example, like the cost 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:26.719 of living or GASA. So what's your analysis of how 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:28.280 Trump was able to retake power. 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.280 Well, first, about Vice President Harris, I certainly think it 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.680 was unrealistic to expect her to break with President Biden 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.639 on virtually anything. She's still a part of the administration, 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:41.240 She's still trying to achieve the goals of his administration, 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:46.080 and we obviously have incredibly sensitive, to put it mildly 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.960 situation happening in the Middle East, not just with Israel 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.959 and Gaza, but also not Lebanon and all the other 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.440 countries that are involved in these conflicts. So to expect 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:59.400 her to radically depart from that, even if it would 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.280 have been the right right thing to do, certainly I 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:07.080 thought was not particularly realistic part of of voters to expect. 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.359 But I would say this maximizing America's potential as an 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.639 experiment for me has always been about something that the 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.480 founders that clearly never envisioned, and that's forming a multicultural society, 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:20.680 you know, that embraces and celebrates the ways in which 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.679 we are different. So this is an idea that Trump's 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.480 voters have soundly rejected. This is not twenty sixteen, This 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.399 is not folks voting for their favorite celebrity. No, this 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.240 is a person we all know by now, and voters 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.920 chose him. And listen, the information is out there. There's 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.399 more information available to human beings that at any other 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.240 time in the history of the world. And so I 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.600 do think that that is a challenge for us as journalists. 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.920 How do we get the right information in front of people, 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.359 and how do we help them understand what are facts 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:55.600 and not facts? And how do we prevent the next demagogue? 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.880 And I got some of this sense from the year 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.439 long reporting we've been doing for our special coverage here 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.280 on Latino USA. It's called the Latino Factor, How we Vote. 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.400 We're talking about specifically the issues that Latinos were saying 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:15.720 we're going to impact their vote, abortion, the economy, misinformation, democracy, immigration. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.000 We know now from the exit polls that these issues 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.919 indeed determined the vote for thousands of voters around the country, 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.960 of course, including Latinos. So I want to talk about 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.880 Florida for a second. Now, I did spend some time 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.840 there just about a month or two before the election, 0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:34.800 and so it wasn't a surprise that Donald Trump took 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.199 the state. I mean a little bit of a surprise 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.639 for Miami Dade to go read. So Trump won Florida 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.280 in twenty twenty, and we saw from the data that 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:47.120