WEBVTT - Norte Fire Coverage (10/16)

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640, you're listening to the John Cobell Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>John Cobelt Show rolling on here. We are on until

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<v Speaker 1>six after six. John Cobelt Show on demand. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to listen to what you missed. And the fire

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<v Speaker 1>is going strong in Orange County. It straddles the border

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<v Speaker 1>of San Juan Capistrano and San Clemente. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>many homes burning or have already burned and are nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but ashes. Flames shooting through the roofs of some homes

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<v Speaker 1>and massive traffic jams in the area. The fires in

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<v Speaker 1>the Portico del Norte section broke out at 1130. We

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<v Speaker 1>are now going to talk to Orange County Supervisor Katrina

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<v Speaker 1>Foley to see what she knows. Katrina, welcome. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to help. Spread the word to the

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<v Speaker 2>community to sign up for Alert OC so they can

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<v Speaker 2>get real-time updates. Evacuate if you're in the evacuation zone

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't know how this wind could change the

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<v Speaker 2>direction of the fires. And we know that our teams

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<v Speaker 2>are working really hard to stop forward progress. We're at

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<v Speaker 2>about 465 acres, four homes burned in San Juan. Two

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<v Speaker 2>other homes damaged. I'm not sure what city they're in yet,

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<v Speaker 2>either San Juan or San Clemente. And we've got air support,

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<v Speaker 2>land support. We're doing everything we can to stop forward

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<v Speaker 2>progress of this fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a lot of units from various towns

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<v Speaker 1>in Orange County working on this? Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Laguna Beach, Costa Mesa, Newport Beach. We've got the CAL

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<v Speaker 2>FIRE team in the air. Even I saw a Riverside

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<v Speaker 2>County truck out here. And then we've got our Orange

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<v Speaker 2>County Sheriff's Department. They're working on evacuations, and they're working

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<v Speaker 2>hard to get the community that's in the evacuation zones out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also, of course, CHP is helping with all

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<v Speaker 2>of our traffic situation you know the five is closed

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have to drive on the five please

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<v Speaker 2>don't because it's uh it's just a parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now well you can't go anywhere anyway so it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pointless to get on the five because you're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to sit there for hours have they pinpointed

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where the fire started.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh this fire started at uh let's see i have

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<v Speaker 2>that actually um.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they started about 1130 in the morning. Portico

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<v Speaker 1>del Norte.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I just got in. Yeah, that's where the fire started.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got an update. All the homes damaged are

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<v Speaker 2>in San Juan Capistrano.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it was Portico del Norte and Eminencia del Norte.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the cross street.

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<v Speaker 1>But do we know if it was in a field

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<v Speaker 1>or was it in a neighborhood area?

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<v Speaker 2>Um, I'm not sure. And I haven't, I've asked, they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't told me what the cause of the fire is yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, we do have evacuation shelters. If people need

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<v Speaker 2>to evacuate and don't have any place to go, San

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<v Speaker 2>Juan Capistrano community center, San Clemente community center. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of course our, we just opened up our hotline, um,

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<v Speaker 2>for the County. Um, our County operations center is activated

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<v Speaker 2>and our hotline is.

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<v Speaker 3>714-628-7085.

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<v Speaker 2>And that hotline you can call if you have questions,

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<v Speaker 2>if you need information. But I do think that signing

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<v Speaker 2>up for Alert OC to get real-time updates right to

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<v Speaker 2>your phone is the best way to stay apprised of

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<v Speaker 2>the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Alert OC.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. That's our emergency management alert system that we

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<v Speaker 2>really have set up over the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've been doing a lot of education in the

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<v Speaker 2>community to try to get people to sign up for

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<v Speaker 2>Alert OC. You can sign up by city or all

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<v Speaker 2>of the county.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that a website that they have to access?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you go to alertoc.com.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And then it's self-evident how you register for it

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<v Speaker 1>to get the notifications.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You can get notifications by email.

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<v Speaker 1>Or text, either way. Was everybody in law enforcement, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the fire department, emergency services, on high alert? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you know everybody was asleep here in the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>area two years ago. I imagine things are always different

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<v Speaker 1>in Orange County.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We're on high alert every day. Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Especially in the 5th District. This is a dynamic district.

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<v Speaker 2>We're always having some kind of incident. Yesterday, I was

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with coastal erosion, PCH shutdown because of erosion of

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<v Speaker 2>the cliff, and flooding in Newport, and... Today we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about fires. So it is a high alert time. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems nonstop, but our fire authority is always ready. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that fire season is every day now, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Ana winds come, everyone's at the ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, all you have left is the earthquake. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you will have completed the grand slam of disasters.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't say that. Well, yeah, I don't know. There could

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<v Speaker 2>be others, but let's hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Katrina, listen, stay in touch with us. And

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anything you want to announce, we have, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a huge listenership in Orange County. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a real great way to get important information out

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<v Speaker 1>to just tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people

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<v Speaker 1>all at once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We appreciate you helping us inform the residents and

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that people get signed up for alert OCs.

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<v Speaker 2>We also discourage people from kind of being looking loose

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<v Speaker 2>and coming out of the fire because the wind could

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<v Speaker 2>change and then you're in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that. That's idiotic. Yeah. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Katrina Foley, Orange County Supervisor. Thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>and sharing all that. And alertoc.com and sign up and

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<v Speaker 1>then you will get your phone buzzing and sending you

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<v Speaker 1>messages on when it's time to get the hell out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best way to do it because then they

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<v Speaker 1>could send you a direct message. Sometimes it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>keep track of which zone you're in when they start

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<v Speaker 1>announcing the evacuation zones on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Norte Fire. We will talk more when we come back

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<v Speaker 1>with the latest details.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass is going to be on the show. Mayor

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass, our guest, 5 o'clock on Tuesday here at

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<v Speaker 1>the KFI studios. And speaking of that race with Nithya Raman,

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<v Speaker 1>they are in a fight over a dead police chief.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Darryl Gates. He was the chief of police

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<v Speaker 1>from the late 70s to the early 90s here in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. Those of you who are old enough will

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<v Speaker 1>remember him. One of the most controversial figures ever. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people thought he had a poor response to

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<v Speaker 1>the riots of 92, the Rodney King riots. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of black people thought he was a big racist. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when Ken and I joined the station, Gates had a

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<v Speaker 1>show here in this time slot. And it was right

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<v Speaker 1>after the riots and right after he resigned. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, KFI hired him immediately. And then he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to have his show moved, and we were the replacements.

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<v Speaker 1>And our first time on the air on KFI was

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<v Speaker 1>with Daryl Gates. and he was actually a very charming

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<v Speaker 1>guy off the air. I didn't know what I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to run into because I just knew about the reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>but one-on-one we had a good relationship with him. His

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<v Speaker 1>show followed ours for a time after that. He had

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<v Speaker 1>signed something called Special Order 40, and this prevented LAPD

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<v Speaker 1>from stopping people if the only purpose of the stop

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<v Speaker 1>was to determine their immigration status. So this was one

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<v Speaker 1>issue where civil libertarians loved him, is that he told

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<v Speaker 1>the LAPD officers to stop detaining people who looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they're illegal. And in the debate the other night with

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass, Nithya Raman referred to Gates' policy, and Gates,

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<v Speaker 1>she said the policy was the gold standard. Well, this

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<v Speaker 1>set Karen Bass off. who accused her of romanticizing that

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<v Speaker 1>era and that she doesn't understand the city's history of

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<v Speaker 1>police abuse against black people and the suffering of black

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<v Speaker 1>and Latino residents under Gates, which, of course, was epitomized

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<v Speaker 1>in her mind by the beating of Rodney King that

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<v Speaker 1>was caught on videotape. Rahman's exact quote was, the city

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<v Speaker 1>used to be the gold standard in terms of non-cooperation

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<v Speaker 1>with immigration enforcement years ago under the era of Daryl Gates.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bass put together a group of black leaders and

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<v Speaker 1>held a press conference and said it was a lie

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<v Speaker 1>to portray Gates as the gold standard. And she wants

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<v Speaker 1>Rahman to retract her remarks, saying Gates inflicted serious harm

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<v Speaker 1>to the African-American community. My opponent is not really familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with L.A., especially the black community. And that's obviously true.

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<v Speaker 1>She's only spent 13 years here. So she came over

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<v Speaker 1>two decades after the riots and after the Gates era.

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<v Speaker 1>Rahman immediately backed off and decided to call Gates an

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<v Speaker 1>abhorrent and racist police chief and accused Bass of deliberately

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<v Speaker 1>distorting her statement. And she's ticked off about LAPD cooperation

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<v Speaker 1>with ICE. Now, of course, we don't know what we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but Rahman is intentionally dishonest because if you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Riot groups, activist groups like CHIRLA, and they choose to

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<v Speaker 1>go out in the street and start a riot, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're throwing firecrackers at police officers and dropping cement blocks

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<v Speaker 1>on police cars or ICE cars, then LAPD has a

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<v Speaker 1>duty to protect life. And they will especially do so

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<v Speaker 1>if it's the lives of law enforcement officers. So Rahman

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<v Speaker 1>blurts these things out and nobody challenges her. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>alternative to not having LAPD help out the ICE agents?

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<v Speaker 1>Let the ICE agents take a face full of fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe they die? Let the ICE agents take a

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<v Speaker 1>cement block dropping on their heads and they die? What

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<v Speaker 1>she wants is the ICE agents to die a violent death.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's what these rioters wanted to do. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kill the ICE agents. When you drop a cement

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<v Speaker 1>block on somebody's car, you're hoping there's somebody in there

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to kill them. When you blow fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>off in somebody's face, you want to kill them. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I will give her credit. She's pretty consistent. She wants

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<v Speaker 1>to defund the police and abolish the police so that

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<v Speaker 1>there is no function, there is no duty for the police,

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<v Speaker 1>not even to protect other police who are in danger

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<v Speaker 1>of being killed by the rioters that Rahman supports. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised she keeps pushing this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>LAPD is always going to help ICE out. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think morally and legally they're required to. They're required to

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<v Speaker 1>protect human life. And the protection of human life is

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute. I mean, that's why we save criminals in

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<v Speaker 1>the emergency room after the police shoot them. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you have murderers. who get shot, they get emergency medical care,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're always told, well, it's the only humane thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Well, the only humane thing to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to protect ICE officers and other police officers when they're

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<v Speaker 1>being threatened by street murderers, which is a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these activist groups have now morphed into murderous street gangs,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, financed by our tax money. Gates' Special Order

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<v Speaker 1>40 was a signal, that immigrants could report a crime

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<v Speaker 1>or serve as a witness and not fear being deported.

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<v Speaker 1>But LAPD was allowed to work with federal immigration agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's wrong on that end, too. Now, she's either

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant or stupid. Willfully, I don't know. I'd say she's

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant and stupid. She has the whole tenets of Special

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<v Speaker 1>Order 40 wrong. And she doesn't seem to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of a police officer. She's so busy shouting anti-police

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric for at least the last six years, she forgot

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<v Speaker 1>what the rest of us want. And the rest of us,

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<v Speaker 1>including illegal immigrants, want the police around so we all

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<v Speaker 1>don't get killed. And Nithya Raman and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>her DSA maniacs apparently don't mind a society where there

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<v Speaker 1>are no police around to keep you from getting murdered. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they explicitly call for the abolition of the police, the DSA,

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<v Speaker 1>which she is a proud member and has their endorsement.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to the DSA, if anybody gets an endorsement

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<v Speaker 1>as a candidate, they're required to co-govern, which means you

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<v Speaker 1>have to check with the DSA. to see if your

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<v Speaker 1>policies are kosher with the party. And that's why she's

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<v Speaker 1>so insistent. You could look up her Twitter feed. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Spencer Pratt has been reprinting some of the highlights

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<v Speaker 1>from 2020, and she clearly said defund the police. And

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<v Speaker 1>defund completely. And she wants to replace them with, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, social workers, I guess. I, I, I, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ramen is so freaking nuts. I'm actually stunned even by

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<v Speaker 1>idiot candidate standards. She is completely, absolutely out of her mind,

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<v Speaker 1>but she looks nice and she dresses well. And apparently

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<v Speaker 1>that is enough to sway people. It's like the Newsome effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Newsome is dumb as a box of rocks, but boy,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets over 60% of the women's vote. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they love him for his brain.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640. More stimulating talk radio. John Kobelt show.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're on to six after six. The podcast John

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<v Speaker 1>Kobelt show on demand for what you missed. And continuing

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<v Speaker 1>coverage when warranted of the fire in Orange County. San Clemente,

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<v Speaker 1>San Juan Capistrano, which has burned at least eight homes,

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<v Speaker 1>465-plus acres. If there's a news conference giving more detail,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring it to you immediately, and Debra's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have constant updates as well. And if you're stuck in traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people are in Orange County. There's virtually no movement.

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<v Speaker 1>The 5 is closed between Harbor Drive and— oh, it just

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<v Speaker 1>blipped off the screen here. But you know where it's closed.

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<v Speaker 4>And Angel will have more in just a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So just sit and enjoy us. Just enjoy the party here. Now, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass is going to be on the show Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>October 20th, five o'clock. So you want to be tuned

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<v Speaker 1>in for that. The, uh, DWP is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most incompetent and corrupt agencies, uh, Deborah's nodding. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>bill you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the bill? I got to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that next. The bill that Cantor's Deli got?

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<v Speaker 4>What was it? $ 35, 000? Yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>The water bill.

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<v Speaker 4>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what they said? Well, you must have

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<v Speaker 1>a leak. That's what they always do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they always say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You had some skirmish with DWP.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They had a billing system, I know, some years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>that was charging people like $ 50, 000 and more.

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<v Speaker 4>It's ridiculous, and you never can win. No. Don't get

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<v Speaker 4>me started. Don't get me started.

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<v Speaker 1>The DWP, and until recently run by Janice Quinonez, they

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones who never filled the reservoir in Pacific Palisades.

0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.830
<v Speaker 1>And as the fire was raging in Malibu yesterday, and

0:18:06.869 --> 0:18:10.429
<v Speaker 1>it's still going on, everybody noticed that the reservoir is

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<v Speaker 1>still not filled. That's right. Even after all the criticism

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<v Speaker 1>and controversy and tragedy and people dying, the DWP still

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fill the reservoir. Now, here is an example of

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<v Speaker 1>a fine DWP employee. There is a gang of graffiti vandals.

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<v Speaker 1>And they go around defacing buildings in L.A. with their

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<v Speaker 1>stupid spray paint. They have racked up $ 173, 000 in damages.

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<v Speaker 1>One member of this gang who has been arrested is

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Resendez Rocha. Javier Resendez Rocha. And he is an

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<v Speaker 1>electrical craft helper for the LADWP. He's been working there

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<v Speaker 1>eight years. Oh, and everybody at the LADWP makes a fortune, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Roach is facing 12 felony counts of vandalism, which ran

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<v Speaker 1>a year from August of last year through August of

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Oh, yeah. You want to know what he makes? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a salary range here, depending on how long

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<v Speaker 1>he's worked there. Ranges from $ 75, 000 to $ 102, 000. So, This

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<v Speaker 1>guy's not poor. This guy's making a decent, solid middle

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<v Speaker 1>class salary in a job that he cannot be fired from.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's not acting out the frustration of living in

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto or whatever nonsense they preach. He's simply a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>And he takes spray paint. and he ruins all these

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<v Speaker 1>buildings with his nonsense. By the way, graffiti, just so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is not art. It is the disgusting vandalism.

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<v Speaker 1>It is bad art. It's ugly. It's foul. It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate looking at it. Police say defendants used ladders

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<v Speaker 1>and special climbing equipments to scale tall buildings, then lay

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<v Speaker 1>on the spray paint, and then they launched drones so

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<v Speaker 1>they could take video and then, I guess, post it online.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they sold merchandise showing off their graffiti. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they had Graffiti t-shirts? They turned it into this business.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these people should be locked up, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>50 years. In John Lovia, when I had my own country,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>John Lovia?

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<v Speaker 1>John Lovia. John Lovia, you see.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, John Lovia.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a gentle sounding country.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, so you just changed it within a second?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I liked John Lovia better. So it's not harsh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's soft and loving. John, love you.

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<v Speaker 4>You soft and loving.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. But what I do to these guys is

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<v Speaker 1>I would hang them upside down, chain them to a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>and cut off their hands.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought you were going to say something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we could cut that too. As long as we

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<v Speaker 1>got the power saw out, let's take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't have their hands cut off. They must

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<v Speaker 1>do that in some country.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Singapore. Or Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Look that up. What countries do they cut the hands off? Thieves.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that went on somewhere. Thieves, graffiti artists. If

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<v Speaker 1>people start losing their hands, you'll see graffiti disappear. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. In just a matter of hours. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go graffiti the building? No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>My hand sawed off. Who wants to do that? Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the buildings were historically significant. And Nathan Hockman, L.A.

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<v Speaker 1>County D.A., said these defendants turned buildings into their personal billboards.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not harmless graffiti. These are not victimless crimes

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<v Speaker 1>as they destroy the quality of life. Yes, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting all my life for an official to say that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just property. It's victimless crimes. They're just buildings. It's like, no. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cost $ 173, 000 worth of damage. not a victimless crime

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<v Speaker 1>iran and sudan cut the hands off of thieves there

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<v Speaker 1>you go there's one point for iran see and somalia

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<v Speaker 1>and afghanistan there you go that's that's the hall of

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<v Speaker 1>fame right there iran somalia afghanistan and sudan nothing for

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<v Speaker 1>graffiti artists though oh wow yeah i i I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you if you go to their cities, you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>any graffiti, though. Probably not. It seems like you'd get

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<v Speaker 1>a bad reaction. Yeah. And you hack body parts off.

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<v Speaker 1>Changes everything. Also, the other defendants are Michael Ray Gonzalez

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<v Speaker 1>of Pico Rivera, Francisco Rodriguez Aguilar, Richard Evan Ward II, and...

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<v Speaker 1>They either have pled not guilty or they're due for arraignment. And, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Rocha could get up to 10 years in county jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And he should. He should. 50 years. Loss of both hands. John,

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<v Speaker 1>love you. You could be an ambassador.

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<v Speaker 4>How much are you going to pay me?

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<v Speaker 1>That's your answer to every question.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, if I'm going to leave here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make you the Kimberly Guilfoyle of John Luvia.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>More coming up.

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0:24:36.980 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Kobelt's show. So we were talking about that LADWP worker

0:24:41.619 --> 0:24:46.070
<v Speaker 1>who might make as much as $ 102, 000 a year, and

0:24:46.109 --> 0:24:48.910
<v Speaker 1>in his spare time, he's part of a graffiti gang

0:24:49.010 --> 0:24:53.950
<v Speaker 1>that sprays public buildings, office buildings, and they have collectively

0:24:54.010 --> 0:25:01.260
<v Speaker 1>caused $ 173, 000 worth of damage. And meantime, the DWP still

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>has an empty reservoir in the Palisades. They're slowly filling it.

0:25:05.070 --> 0:25:07.450
<v Speaker 1>I think they have a garden sprinkler at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 4>It drips.

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<v Speaker 1>Little teeny drips. Very slowly. And I think by 2052,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be filled. Now, the DWP is known to hand

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<v Speaker 1>out fraudulent bills. It's notorious for that. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Cantor's Deli in the Fairfax District. Mark Cantor is the

0:25:34.830 --> 0:25:38.910
<v Speaker 1>third generation owner. Cantor's Deli has been around for 95 years.

0:25:39.570 --> 0:25:44.170
<v Speaker 1>Mark Cantor is running it along with his sister. And

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<v Speaker 1>he got an electric bill, an electric and water bill, $ 34, 000. $ 34, 000.

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<v Speaker 1>That's up $ 10, 000 in just four months. And DWP says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you must have had a leak. You know, which is

0:26:12.230 --> 0:26:17.550
<v Speaker 1>what they always say. Because then they put balls back

0:26:17.590 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>in your cart, you got to go find a plumber

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and they got to track down the leak and you'll

0:26:24.300 --> 0:26:28.479
<v Speaker 1>leave the DWP alone for a while. Even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a leak, it's an error, good luck trying to

0:26:31.740 --> 0:26:37.050
<v Speaker 1>get them to correct it. I ended up, not with

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<v Speaker 1>the DWP, but with a financial company on the phone. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I meant to tell you about the details of this

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<v Speaker 1>off the air.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you yell?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I did not. I'm trying not to yell at

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<v Speaker 1>idiot customer service workers.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it working?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I end up yelling at the bots.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:26:57.540 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Because they have these automatic bots who keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>solve my problem, and I know that's not possible.

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:07.100
<v Speaker 4>So you just have to say customer service, customer service.

0:27:08.020 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>It purposely doesn't listen like the first five, ten times.

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<v Speaker 1>So I end up going customer service, customer service, and

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:18.660
<v Speaker 1>the bot just keeps talking.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to yell it then.

0:27:21.060 --> 0:27:23.810
<v Speaker 1>Customer service, customer service, customer service, like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:27:24.350 --> 0:27:27.709
<v Speaker 1>And finally, okay, we'll connect you now to customer service.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this world. The AI world is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes.

0:27:34.830 --> 0:27:42.510
<v Speaker 1>It already is worse. Anyway, so Cantor's got a $ 10, 000

0:27:39.869 --> 0:27:43.090
<v Speaker 1>increase in his bill. And then he started talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a news site about all the problems he's had doing

0:27:46.930 --> 0:27:50.530
<v Speaker 1>business in Los Angeles and California. He said business started

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<v Speaker 1>going down when Russia invaded Ukraine. And I guess 30%

0:27:56.220 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>drop in business. I guess people stopped buying pastrami sandwiches.

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Because Russia invaded Ukraine. His insurance went up to more

0:28:03.820 --> 0:28:09.970
<v Speaker 1>than $ 100, 000 a year. And, you know, they had the

0:28:10.030 --> 0:28:13.750
<v Speaker 1>COVID lockdown. At least they got some money for that.

0:28:16.369 --> 0:28:19.810
<v Speaker 1>Business is down 20% from three years ago. So the

0:28:19.859 --> 0:28:26.210
<v Speaker 1>business is down. So it's not possible that. that the

0:28:26.780 --> 0:28:29.740
<v Speaker 1>water and electricity bill should be skyrocketing like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Because there's a leak.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Because there's a leak. And he said tourists don't come much.

0:28:36.500 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Cantor's used to be a landmark, so the tourists would

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>want to go to the famous deli. And they're not

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.590
<v Speaker 1>coming to Los Angeles anymore because they're terrified of it.

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>And he says the ice rates. I guess there were

0:28:50.580 --> 0:28:53.340
<v Speaker 1>a lot of illegal aliens eating at Cantor's, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they don't show up anymore. Because they're afraid there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a raid. And we used to... It looks like...

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<v Speaker 1>It says we used to do 300 covers at the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means. Does that mean customers?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're down to 200. But he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to make of the bill. I just know bills

0:29:17.890 --> 0:29:23.229
<v Speaker 1>from DWP are highly suspect. How much did they overcharge you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 5>We would be gone on vacation for two weeks, right?

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<v Speaker 5>And we would have the exact same bill the next month.

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<v Speaker 5>Two weeks of not using anything. And it would be

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<v Speaker 5>the same. And I can i can tell you so

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<v Speaker 5>many stories but we have paid hundreds i'm sure hundreds

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars that we should not have paid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a criminal operation it.

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<v Speaker 5>Is and i don't understand why are we allowing the

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<v Speaker 5>dwp to take our money like this i mean i

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<v Speaker 5>could say okay i'm not going to pay my bills

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<v Speaker 5>but then what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They shut off your electricity and they shut off your

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<v Speaker 1>water and you die And they don't care if you die.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they don't. They wouldn't even know I died. They'd

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<v Speaker 4>still charge me.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody would be in the house. My husband and I,

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<v Speaker 5>we'd both be dead. And then we would still be

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<v Speaker 5>charged the same amount as if.

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<v Speaker 4>We were living there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the slogan they have over their headquarters. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if you die.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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