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Speaker 3: On a hot summer night in Santa Ana, California, I'm

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Speaker 3: at a sports bar. Most Sunday nights, this bar is

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Speaker 3: filled with men drinking beers watching basketball or football. But

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Speaker 3: this Sunday, the bar is filled with women in their

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Speaker 3: twenties and thirties. The competition they're about to watch is

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Speaker 3: about love watching our Love Island watch Party. You've taken

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Speaker 3: the initiative because you know everybody likes you to go

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Speaker 3: watch these sports games, like this is our sports game.

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Speaker 3: This is mar She and four of her girlfriends organize

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Speaker 3: the event and it's packed with Love Island fans, mostly Latinas,

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Speaker 3: waiting to watch their favorite Latino couple who they voted for,

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Speaker 3: win the one hundred thousand dollars prize. The show for

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Speaker 3: those who did not spend upwards of forty hours watching

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Speaker 3: the cultural phenomenon of the summer. In a gist, it's

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Speaker 3: a reality dating show where singles called Islanders me in

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Speaker 3: a secluded villa in Fiji that is filmed and monitored

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Speaker 3: at all times. Islanders must couple up or they are

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Speaker 3: in danger of being dumped from the island. New islanders

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Speaker 3: called Bombshells are introduced throughout the game. Their goal is

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Speaker 3: to couple up at the risk of other relationships. In

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Speaker 3: the end, four couples make it to the finale and

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Speaker 3: back at the bar. There was a clear favorite to win.

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Speaker 3: Who are you ruining for tonight?

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Speaker 4: Amaya Ye see Mamaya and Brian.

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Speaker 5: Amaya's gonna win?

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Speaker 3: Amaya Espinai, the twenty five year old nurse from New

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Speaker 3: York City and Brian Arenalis, the twenty eight year old

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Speaker 3: from Boston. People had their hearts set on them, but honestly,

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Speaker 3: mostly Amaya. She's Afro Latina Dominican and did I forget

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Speaker 3: to say gorgeous?

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Speaker 5: I love Mayamia Papaya.

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Speaker 3: If she could just win the one hundred k by herself,

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Speaker 3: that'd be perfect, But fans have endearingly nicknamed her Amaya Papaya.

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Speaker 6: My Papaya let's really started end of attle.

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Speaker 5: Like one person just said.

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Speaker 6: It, everybody started seeing it, and I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 6: I like papayas anyways, so why not.

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Speaker 3: She's a bit silly. She sings to herself, calls everyone babe.

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Speaker 7: Oh it was perfect, and Nepa said I didn't and flos.

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Speaker 3: She also says what's on her mind?

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Speaker 5: Guess what.

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Speaker 6: I'm just not your cup of tea to be drinking,

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Speaker 6: so don't drink it.

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Speaker 3: The audience really connected with her, just like the people

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Speaker 3: at the watch party.

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Speaker 8: I would just she reminds me so much of my

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Speaker 8: best friends.

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Speaker 1: I feel like she's been the most genuine.

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Speaker 6: And I just love that she had her heart on

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Speaker 6: her seat a whole time.

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Speaker 3: I also related to Amaya, who doesn't sing to themselves.

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Speaker 3: So admittedly I wasn't at this watch party just for work.

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Speaker 3: I mean yes, but I'm also a fan of the show.

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Speaker 3: I wanted Amya to win. The watch party had a

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Speaker 3: good vibe, but if you weren't looking for it, you

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Speaker 3: might have not felt the slight tension in this room

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Speaker 3: full of latinas of a Maya's possible win. It would

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Speaker 3: be nice to see a Latina winter, especially in this career.

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Speaker 8: We need this, We need a Latino to win.

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Speaker 3: This was mid July, and it's been a scary time

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Speaker 3: for Latinos in southern California because look at who's our president,

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Speaker 3: look at all of this.

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Speaker 7: Heye, we need people to come together and be like, no,

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Speaker 7: the cutest couple is a Latino couple, because they really are.

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Speaker 3: And then the moment everyone in the room was waiting.

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Speaker 2: For, so finally he.

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Speaker 3: Amaya Papaya won and the room exploded.

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Speaker 2: How do you.

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Speaker 1: Amazing?

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Speaker 3: They're the first Latino couple to win Love Island USA.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad they won.

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Speaker 6: The only up well that actually had a really good

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Speaker 6: love connection.

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Speaker 8: How are you gonna celebrate? Shots Shots.

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Speaker 2: Today nights from Futuro Media. It's Latino USA. I'm Mariaojosa.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait a second, I am not on Love Island.

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Speaker 2: Let's try this again today on Latino USA. As we

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Speaker 2: approach the reunion episode of Love Island USA, I sit

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Speaker 2: down with culture thinkers and critics and fans of the

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Speaker 2: show to understand the ups and downs of Latinos and

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Speaker 2: Latinas on the most important reality dating show of the moment.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Love Island USA.

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Speaker 6: Season seven.

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Speaker 2: This streaming reality show is the second most popular TV

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Speaker 2: show in the United States according to NILS and Ratings,

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Speaker 2: and it's not on any conventional TV channel. This season,

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Speaker 2: a record breaking eighteen million people across the country watched

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Speaker 2: the first Latino and Latina couple win Love Island USA.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, here's the truth.

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Speaker 2: Before I introduced my guests, my adult children and their

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Speaker 2: partners watched Love Island and I would walk by the

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Speaker 2: show and I would just be like, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Why are you watching this? And then I felt like

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Speaker 2: I needed to understand what was going on, and so

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Speaker 2: here we are and joining us as part of the

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Speaker 2: eighteen million people who were watching it is journalist and

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Speaker 2: comedian tes Garcia.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Tess, Welcome to the show. Ola.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having me to discuss what I have

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Speaker 6: lovingly called my nine to ten in lieu of my

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Speaker 6: nine to five for the entire summer.

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Speaker 5: I'm super excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that really is appointment television if I've

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Speaker 2: ever heard of it. Juliana Apache is creator of Black Crossword. Juliana,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited

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Speaker 9: to talk about my favorite show of all time, and.

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Speaker 1: Yes we hear it.

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Speaker 2: Let you know us say we have our own reality

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Speaker 2: TV expert. It's great to have you as not only

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Speaker 2: a producer, but a guest on this segment.

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Speaker 3: Monica, Hi Maria, Hi Tests, Hi Leanna. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be exciting. We're going to get texts right now.

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Speaker 2: This is a reality show where people are secluded on

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Speaker 2: the island of Fiji and occasionally they get a text

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Speaker 2: from the outside world.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's a big deal.

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Speaker 5: I got a test Islander.

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Speaker 2: But each of you have credentials, you have actually thought

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Speaker 1: Test.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what's your kind of relationship to TV and

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Speaker 2: reality TV.

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Speaker 6: My relationship with the reality TV in particular began as

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Speaker 6: a working relationship. I have done marketing consulting for social

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Speaker 6: media for networks like HBO, So say we were doing

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Speaker 6: marketing for the Last of Us, we still wanted to

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Speaker 6: tap into the Love Island conversation because they were at

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Speaker 6: similar times, and so it was one of those things

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Speaker 6: where it was like I had.

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Speaker 8: To know what was going on on Love Island.

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Speaker 6: It was just a matter of do you or do

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Speaker 6: you not know what's going on on Latino social media?

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Speaker 6: And that is your job and Latino social media, as

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Speaker 6: we know, we over index on everything in this country

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Speaker 6: because we are the predominant consuming population and continue to

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Speaker 6: grow that men Love Island, especially as we got to

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Speaker 6: know our dear contestants who have brought us everything from

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Speaker 6: scandal that needs to be addressed to some of the

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Speaker 6: most hall of fame one.

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Speaker 8: Liners that I have ever seen on reality TV.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mommy, mommy, I'm a mom Mamaita.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm a mommy, a.

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Speaker 1: Mom of what a dog like a human child?

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Speaker 2: Juliana, tell us a little bit about your relationship to

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Speaker 2: reality television.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm a reality TV veteran, so I love New York,

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Speaker 9: Flavor of Love.

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Speaker 5: All of those kind of burn.

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Speaker 9: Me into this reality TV addiction and then in adulthood.

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Speaker 9: I love Love Island specifically for the way that you

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Speaker 9: get to see these interactions that don't necessarily feel as

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Speaker 9: forrest as other reality TV shows, because, let's say, something

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Speaker 9: like a Real Housewives, the cameras are very visible to

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Speaker 9: all of the people that they are recording, whereas in

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Speaker 9: Love Island, I feel like psychologically it's very interesting. In

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Speaker 9: terms of social dynamics, it's super interesting. I feel like

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Speaker 9: it can potentially make people better and more self reflective.

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Speaker 2: All right, Resident expert at Lati Garcia. Your deep relationship

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Speaker 2: to reality television?

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Speaker 3: Oh Man, Mike, who Lena. I'm a veteran. I started

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Speaker 3: off with the Surreal Life that turned into Flavor of Love,

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Speaker 3: Charm School Rock of Love.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, people do not.

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Speaker 3: Act the same on reality TV. Is completely different now,

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Speaker 3: Like people are not taking off their tops and ignoring

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a little bit more rehearsal, a little bit

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I hadn't watched the show then because I

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Speaker 2: didn't realize the gravity of what was happen. Mean, I

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Speaker 2: binged it in a matter of I don't know, it

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Speaker 2: was it ten days or something. I binged the entire season.

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Speaker 5: That's an extreme sport.

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely an extreme sport. I see it that way, Tess,

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Speaker 2: you actually wrote a piece for Refinery twenty nine. The

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Speaker 2: title of the piece love Island usas Amaya and Brian

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Speaker 2: represent the Latine love story we really needed. And so

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Speaker 2: just again for people who did not watch in the end,

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Speaker 2: a show that is not always been really inclusive and representative.

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Speaker 2: On this season, you have two Latinos who end up

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Speaker 2: falling in love and it feels special, Tess. What made

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Speaker 2: it so special with Amaya, who's Dominican and Brian and

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Speaker 5: I'm Brian, I do real estate and I also bartend nightclubs.

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Speaker 8: If you hate me, that's a youth cower fan. It

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Speaker 8: was really a perfect storm.

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Speaker 6: We had Amaya come in as a bombshell episode for

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Speaker 6: people didn't really know how to feel about her in

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Speaker 6: the context of this siloed villa. We quickly got to

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Speaker 6: no one love her and all of her Amaya isms,

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Speaker 6: like calling the villa a bag of skittles.

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Speaker 5: This is like a bags of skittles.

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Speaker 6: There's different flavors, different backgrounds, different connections.

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Speaker 8: America fell fast and hard for Amaya.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, there were a lot.

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Speaker 9: Of memes about all of the Latina representation.

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Speaker 10: People were calling it Rubbian Island and the real in reality,

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Speaker 10: you were just reminded that actually our world is not

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Speaker 10: as shiny.

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Speaker 3: As beautiful, as progressive as we think it is.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us, yes, hey, we're back.

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Speaker 2: And before the break we were speaking with Juliana pache

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Speaker 2: Tes Garcia and mont Moralis Garcia about how one Latina

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Speaker 2: on Love Island USA one America's heart. Now we're going

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Speaker 2: to get into the USA franchise of the show and

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Speaker 2: how it differs from the UK original and how race

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Speaker 2: plays into all of it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation.

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Speaker 2: So the British original Love Island UK was never explicitly

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Speaker 2: targeted to non white audiences, but Love Island USA has

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Speaker 2: become increasingly more racially diverseed. This is a point of

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Speaker 6: To Shelley, Caribbean Island was the name of the game.

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Speaker 9: Yes, totally, and it makes sense, I guess, from a

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Speaker 2: So, Monica, I'm just wondering if you were a fan

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Speaker 2: That's why she's called a bombshell. She sent in to

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Speaker 3: I have to admit I wasn't a Maya papayas stand

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Speaker 3: I'm with you because when you watch these shows, you

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Speaker 3: The men need to be making more pancakes and yearning.

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Speaker 5: We need yearning, we need like on your knees in

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Speaker 2: Okay, morning guy. Let's get back to Amaya. Though she

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Speaker 1: Praise Yourselves.

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Speaker 3: Abroad, your popshells capturing the Fella. So when Amaya came in,

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Speaker 9: And she has so much personality, and she has so

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Speaker 5: I feel free.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I could fly like the pigeons back

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Speaker 2: I do love the fact that you all are like

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Speaker 1: It is funny.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I would say to my kids, I'm like, you, guys,

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Speaker 3: There's literally a podcast of her saying the inward.

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Speaker 6: There's been a lot of stuff circulating online about Sierra

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Speaker 2: Both of them are Latina. It really brought to the

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Speaker 2: And then even beloved Amaya Papaya is being talked about

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Speaker 4: Amaya has now deleted or deactivated her Facebook account from

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Speaker 5: This is the first one.

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Speaker 4: It's titled facts about skin colors. The next one they

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Speaker 1: Juliana. Let's get into this.

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Speaker 9: I wasn't surprised at all by any of the Islanders.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 9: So when Unissa entered the villa, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 9: the same thing with Amaya. I know that she's Dominican,

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Speaker 9: She's clearly Afro Dominican, she's light skinned Sierra. I had

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Speaker 9: But yeah, when I saw all of these things resurfaced,

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Speaker 9: I was very disappointed in the A Maya News because

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Speaker 5: She's so lovable in so many ways.

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Speaker 6: What I will say is ninety nine percent of us

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Speaker 6: who were on Facebook at fourteen years old, I curiously

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Speaker 6: what's on here? From two thousand and you know, Sequadan,

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Speaker 6: you like. I looked at my wall. There are people

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Speaker 6: from my middle school calling me Mexican. I'm Argentine, and

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Speaker 6: and is not to excuse the.

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Speaker 8: Actions of a fourteen year old who has autonomy.

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Speaker 5: It's just we've never lived this before.

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Speaker 1: Mondy Gott, how did it hit you?

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Speaker 3: I think it's the thing about reality TV, particularly with

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Speaker 3: we've progressed in how we understand TV, who gets to

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Speaker 3: it is such a tough thing to watch, I think,

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Speaker 3: that actually our world is not as shiny, as beautiful,

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Speaker 3: as progressive as we actually think it is. That all

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after a quick break. Let's jump

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Speaker 2: back into the conversation. So, Mornica, can you talk a

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Speaker 2: I think here in this group a lot of progressive thought,

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Speaker 2: but some who would say it's just really so objectifying

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Speaker 2: of women's bodies. Okay, also men, but the women were

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Speaker 2: much prettier than the men. I'm sorry, I agreed, it's true.

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Speaker 2: It's actually ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the men were personality hires. I didn't

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Speaker 3: think they were attractive until the end.

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Speaker 8: That's being kind of Monica. What personality.

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Speaker 3: I won't say they were a chop, but chop was there.

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Speaker 3: I'll say it if you don't it was a chop, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: especially for the women being just gorgeous like Shelley gorgeous, Landria.

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Speaker 5: Stunning, like model.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what is a chop? I'm sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's come back to chop.

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Speaker 9: It's like we don't see the potential here, like there's

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Speaker 9: no potential for anything good to come of this, like

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Speaker 9: we're looking away essentially.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the gender dynamics are essential to the show.

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Speaker 3: The show is about men and women and them coming together.

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Speaker 3: But also so I think there's a queer lens that

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Speaker 3: can be read into the women there. There's one season

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Speaker 3: it's like just explodes the show. It doesn't have wiggle

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Speaker 3: room for people to be queer. If a man went

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Speaker 3: in there and he was bisexual, I think it would

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Speaker 2: All right, So I want to go back for a moment, Tess. Yes,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the original couple. Right on my Epapie

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Speaker 2: and Brian, you wrote about this particular moment, and I'm

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Speaker 2: wondering if you can tell us more about Brian and

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Speaker 2: his masculinity on Love Island, USA.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we see him on the day that the families

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Speaker 6: surprised the islanders by showing.

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Speaker 5: Up the Fiji.

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Speaker 6: In real life, Brian's dad comes up and shows him

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Speaker 6: a video call from his mom.

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Speaker 5: Oh Akita mami, the Mandan and Brian person at yours.

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Speaker 1: I am so happy that we appreciate your day.

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Speaker 5: My mom is my best friend. It's no she's proud

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Speaker 5: and everything just meant the world for me.

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Speaker 1: And he's a big, tall dude huge.

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Speaker 5: I think he's like what six' four DID i? CHECKED

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Speaker 5: i don't.

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Speaker 1: Know he is easy on the, eye he is does he.

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Speaker 8: Needs to shave up the beard and, maybe But i'm not.

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Speaker 6: Not but, yeah his dad was clearly emotional as, well

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Speaker 6: and to see the father son bond between Two latino

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Speaker 6: men being openly, emotional WHERE i do think there is

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Speaker 6: a an irony of much small being about men not

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Speaker 6: showing emotion when we all know, Here i'm sure The

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Speaker 8: Emotional they might not know, it but they.

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Speaker 6: Are but this was emotion in a more vulnerable sense

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Speaker 6: THAN i think ANY i had ever seen a reality

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Speaker 6: show from A latino, man especially not a young heterosexual

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Speaker 6: Presumably latino man being portrayed in this truly hetero, lens

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Speaker 6: like he missed his, Mom like.

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Speaker 5: Who among this.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't, yeah this is like a family reunion here that.

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Speaker 2: Everybody i'm, Wondering, monica how you understand, this because on

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Speaker 2: the one, HAND i was binge watching this while at

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Speaker 2: the same TIME i was watching mass deportation protests By

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Speaker 2: latinos And latinas In la taking back their. City the

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Speaker 5: Raids are making some people afraid to go to work

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Speaker 9: Community SENA nna has long been home to immigrant, families

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Speaker 9: and people tell me that having The National guard stationed

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Speaker 2: Either and it's like both things are happening at the same,

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Speaker 2: Time like popular culture is celebrating This Latino latina, couple

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Speaker 2: while at the same, time people from The Dominican republic

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Speaker 1: COUNTRY i was.

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Speaker 3: At the watch party and there was Still National guard.

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Speaker 3: Outside there's also a bunch of ice out Of, la

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Speaker 3: literally bright side of the, bar and then you come

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Speaker 3: into the bar And it's like it's just a bunch

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Speaker 3: Of latinas in there screaming For, Amaya papaya And. Brian

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Speaker 3: there's like a lot of nuance to like the Person

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Speaker 3: amaya is right and the latina's on the show and

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Speaker 3: there also is all this joy happening in this bar

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Speaker 3: and at the same Time ice is.

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Speaker 1: Outside that to me is.

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Speaker 3: Confounding it shows the sort of resiliency we have in

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Speaker 3: times where our communities are being, abducted and it's something

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Speaker 3: that we have to hold on. To Maybe Love island

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Speaker 3: didn't expect to have that kind of, moment BUT i

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Speaker 2: FEELING i love the fact that we've gotten so deeply

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Speaker 2: political in the conversation Around Love. Island and Now i'm

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Speaker 2: going to end with a non political. Question there is

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Speaker 2: going to be A Love island. Reunion it's happening In New.

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Speaker 1: York so what do we, Know?

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Speaker 6: Tess so we know that historically the whole original cast

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Speaker 6: has shown. Up this, season we had E lisa eliminated

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Speaker 6: What day, Two night two for the comments she, made

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Speaker 6: and we have course Had sierra's sudden elimination from the

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Speaker 8: Members they had a trillion.

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