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Colored people in the South would 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: first react in denial and disbelieve to the rise of hysteria, then, 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: helpless to stop it, attempt to related resistance, not knowing 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: and not able to imagine how far the supremacist would go. 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: The outcomes for both groups will wiley divergent, one suffering 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: unspeakable loss in genocide, the other enduring nearly a century 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: of apartheid programs and mob executions, but the hatreds and 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: fears that fed Both assaults were not dissimilar and relied 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: on arousing the passions of the indifferent to mount so 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: complete an attack. The South began acting in outright defiance 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: of the Fourteenth Amendment in eighteen sixty eight, which granted 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: the right to do process and equal protection to anyone 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: born in the United States, and it ignored the Fifteenth 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: Amendment in eighteen eighty, which guaranteed all men the right 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: to vote. Politicians began writing these anti black sentiments all 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: the way to the governor's mansions throughout the South and 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: de seats in the US Senity Senate. Hey, welcome to 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: the Black Altists Podcast. Your host Rod and we're live 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: on a Sunday morning afternoon. Ready to give you literally 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: just afternoon twelve oh one. Ready to give you guys 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: some podcasts and you can find us on iTunes, Stitch 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: or Potomatic. Just search for us The Blackout, Who Tips 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: or Reading Rainbow however. 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: You guys want to do it. 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: Butterflies in the Sky Nigga, we go twice as high. 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: Come on, you can find us there. 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: We appreciate the five star reviews, and we also appreciate 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: the people that lead feedback through various ways email, comments 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: on the website, votes in the polls, voicemail stuff like that. 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: Although I do have to tell you, guys, a little 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: guilty pleasure that I have. I think I may have 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: told you about it or not. I don't remember. But 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes we get these like harassing emails or 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: emails that are just like by people that you know 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: clearly want to fight or take shit out of context 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: because we talk about a lot of hot button issues, 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: and when you talk about shit and you have integrity 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: and stuff, people like want to try to tear you down. 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: I have a folder, and I don't know, maybe that'll 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: help you guys too. It helped me with not responding 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: to these type of people that have bad faith arguments. 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: I have a folder in my Gmail that's just for idiots. 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: So if you just say some stupid shit to me, 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: you just going to idiotbox. 57 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: Like, I don't feel like I have to like respond, 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 3: I don't feel the need to try to reason with you. 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you're irrational or you're being tried. This 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: is fun for you to troll me idiot folder. You know, 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: I've been doing it for a few years and it's 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: honestly stopped me from coming on the podcast and talk 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: back to people like as if they. 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: Represented a large group of people. 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: I know there was one specific fan who used to 66 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: like create fake email accounts just to email me and 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: hope that I would say shit on the website about 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: on the podcast about them, or take pictures and put 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: it on my Facebook page or something, and you know, 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: people been following. They know I haven't done that in 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: a long time because I just don't want to. 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: I know that that's part of the thrill for them, right, 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: is I got this person's attention. 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they put me on a pedestal, and then getting 75 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: my attention becomes like a big deal for them because 76 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: their lives are terrible. 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was. 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: It was just something that I had to relate today 79 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: because I was like, you know what, it's been a 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: long time since I've even like done. 81 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: That to be like, we didn't say that, Like what for? 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: What for? 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: You know, a ninety nine nine point nine nine nine 84 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: percent of people listening and get it, and then there's 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: always that one person that's like, but I would like 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: to take you out of context. If they do it 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: to Beyonce, if they do it to Obama, they'll do 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: it to me too. 89 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: They'll do it. Yeah. 90 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody special out here anyway. The quote that I 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: started to show with today was The Warmth of other Sons, 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: which is a book I just started reading because I 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: finished another book yesterday, so two days ago, I believe. So, 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's good to be like, Yo, I finished 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: another book. It's time for me to get on some 96 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: new new so you know, I'm kind of I'm kind 97 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: of excited about, you know, start a new book. I've 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: heard a lot about this one. It's about the Great Migration, 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: which is. 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: Is Ababa say which direction? You know, it's a lot 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: of them migrations. 102 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: Well, the Great Migration in America specifically refers to it's 103 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: about Isabel Wilkinson Wilkerson wilkers Son. The Great Migration in 104 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: America specifically refers to black people that moved out of 105 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: the South to the north. 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: Most people will term it as like from like the 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: eighteen nineties to the nineteen thirties or twenties or something, 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: but it really went on to like the nineteen seventies 110 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 3: if you think about it, because either under Jim Crow 111 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: and then under segregation, black people still were getting treated 112 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: like shit in the South and they were moving out, 113 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: which hurt you know, production in the South as far 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: as like cotton and farms and stuff because black people 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: were doing all that labor. 116 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they had to get machines to do 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: the shit, right, And it was a slow economic war. Two. 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: Also, it was a movement that wasn't organized. It didn't 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: have a leader. There was no like one black person 120 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: telling everybody we got to go. It was they don't 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: know how to handle that because you don't have a target. Yeah, 122 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: So it was it was a lot of black people 123 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: very bravely at a time when you know, trains work, 124 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: mass transit, you know, if you were lucky enough to 125 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: have a car. You know, there were black people that 126 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: left the South that literally had never had shoes, you know. 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: The bravery of our ancestors to even be able to 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: do some shit like that. 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: Like you have hundreds of thousands of miles by foot, 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: a lot of them. 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: I was nervous to hop on a plane to travel. 133 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: I am indeed not my ancestors hands, okay uh, And 134 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: I mean that in the opposite way, like I don't 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: want that smoke, because they was like I've never been 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: to a big city. Now I'm living in New York, 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 3: now living in Chicago, you know. So, yeah, the book 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: is about that, and I'm enjoying it so far. 139 00:06:59,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: Man. 140 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: But I love this period of history and stuff because 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: I just wasn't tired about it in school. Nobody talked 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: about it in school. If they brought it up, they 143 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: would just be like it was called like the definition. 144 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: Not no personal story, no numbers, no facts, just and 145 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 3: then black people moved from the South and they moved 146 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: to the North, and it was called the Great Migration. 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: Write that down and then that's an answer on your 148 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: social studies test, right, But did you internalize that knowledge? 149 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: Did you realize that at one point, ninety percent of 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: black people lived in the South, and at the end 151 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: of the Great Migration, I want to say it was 152 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: like forty percent or something like that, or more than 153 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: forty percent had moved out something. It was something like 154 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: that where you got to consider half of a populace 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: of America in one location, just moving and spreading throughout. 156 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Nobody's wondering why nobody, because they don't give a fuck. 157 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: Oh they wondered why they wondered why. 158 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to consider as white landowners losing people. 159 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: But because they couldn't conceptualize of black. 160 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: People's humanity, they would not ascribe the common decency and 161 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: motivations to us that they would for themselves. 162 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: So they would look at it like these. 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: Black people, you give them a little scrap of land, 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: they just quit working, and it's like, no, they work 165 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: for themselves. 166 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: That's called being an entrepreneur, you know. 167 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: And then of course you find out about sharecropping and 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: all that stuff. So like it's been interesting and it 169 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: seems like the way that Isabelle Wilkinson tackled this was 170 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: to find three different people who were still alive and 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: interview them about their lives, journey and how they and 172 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: like how they moved from the South to different locations 173 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: and why you know, one dude wanting to be a doctor. 174 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: He was in the South. 175 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: They wouldn't let him be a doctor. He had all 176 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 3: the schooling and everything. Come on, you know, like I said, 177 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: the woman I'm reading about now at idam Ay, like 178 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: she was in the South and just you know, dealing 179 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: with racism. 180 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: You know, her father died early and stuff. 181 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: So it's like interesting to see different people give that 182 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: human story in a way that I never learned in school, never, 183 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: not once like maybe I learned the term. 184 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: I have never thought about the knowledge. 185 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: And what it was. 186 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: And you know, reading out of Bee Wells the autobiography for. 187 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Her and reading this is kind of like enlightening to see, like, oh, 188 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: this is what people was dealing with so right. And 189 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: most of the black people that are you know, most 190 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: of us are probably second, third, four fifth generation of 191 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: these people that migrated through these areas. A lot of 192 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: people particularly let somebody say Chicago, New York, DC, like 193 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: above the quote unquote making Dixon line. If you go 194 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: back to your roots, all high percentage of them niggas 195 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: came from down south. Most of them were not originally 196 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: born and raised quote quote unquote when they came to 197 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: America up there. They migrated to those areas a large percent. 198 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: It's sad because when you think about the shame black 199 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: people feel about country, black people in certain areas, like 200 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, the way that people to shit on the 201 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: South and black people in the South. Look no further 202 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: than when this current crop of candidates running and how 203 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Plee Budajeck sold out southern black vote in South Carolina, 204 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: how it was Bernie Sanders before him. Everybody forgets that 205 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, you know, they just blame Hillary for 206 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: his loss South, they blame Hilly for his loss. But 207 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: he never really made true in rows with black people. 208 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: In mass He had some young black people on this team, 209 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: but he didn't make it in mass with all black people, 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: and that's to his detriment. 211 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: You know. 212 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: And it's interesting to think about the way that these 213 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: things still reflect today because I remember when it was 214 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: the numbers were coming back, and it was like, black 215 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: people in the South are not really fucking with Bernie. 216 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: The anti blackness jumped out of not just his white supporters, 217 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: but a lot of his black supporters started talking about 218 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: black people being too stupid and all this shit. And 219 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: the vast majority of black people who don't live in 220 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: the South come from the fucking South. You all got 221 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: here through ports in Charleston and Virginia and ship like that. 222 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: And like, very few black people can trace their ancestry 223 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: back in America if they if they came through slavery 224 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: or through the air through the era of slavery. 225 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: Very few black people came here as freed people. 226 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: Very few black people came here, and you know, got 227 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: the real and digit servitude treatment and really had it respected. 228 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: Most of most of us came from chattel slavery. If 229 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: you're an immigrant from outside of America, you mostly came 230 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: from chattle slavery. You know, like it's like you were 231 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: affected by it or or somehow in this world. Even 232 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: if you're from Africa, you were still affected by you know, 233 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: colonization and slavery, the slave trade. So to think about 234 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 3: the disdain people have a Southern accent, Southern mannerisms, uh, 235 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: Southern black folks, it's you know, it's I'm most scared. 236 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: It's almost sad. And then the shame. 237 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: That people feel about it, because you know it's a 238 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: lot of like mocking and shit, but that's internalized shame 239 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: that you have for your grandparents, for your father and mother, 240 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: for your great grandparents, and the people that really were 241 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: brave enough to pack up all this shit and leave 242 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: it on whims, notice, knowing they were leaving all their 243 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: land behind, knowing they were leaving us, and many times 244 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: places they could not go back because. 245 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: People will want to kill them and all the stuff. 246 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I love this book so far. And also 247 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: that shows to go the ignorance of people, and even 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: to the day, it is so fucking frustrating whenever you know, 249 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: you kind of hear black people up north talk down 250 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: south about the laws and shit that we have down here, 251 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: but yet it was stopping frisk up there. You know 252 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: that shit is the same fucking thing, right, it's them 253 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: from racism, you know what I'm saying. It's like, you 254 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: know that they say very ignorant shit like the police 255 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: don't stop them to. Yeah, the police stop us to, 256 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: but the police also stop you to the police also 257 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: harash y'all up there too. You know. That's why when 258 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: certain things happened to people up north, they'd be like, well, 259 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: I never thought it would happen to me up here. 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm up north, nigga, who'll get breaks them? Don't give 261 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: a fuck if you up nor for down soouth? It 262 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: is you black? Is you black? Well? 263 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: You know what it is is that a lot of 264 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: these states, and I guess it still works on certain people, 265 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: hopefully not as much anymore, But a lot of these 266 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: states used to advertise themselves as these destinations that were 267 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: free of racism, and they were telling the truth for 268 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: the most part that they were free of racism in 269 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: the North because they were free of black people, So 270 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 3: there wasn't any racism to be needed really when there 271 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: were no black people, you know. But when like Sace, 272 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Chicago went from like forty thousand black people to a million, 273 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: you know, to where you were like less than five 274 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 3: percent of the city population to forty percent of the 275 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: city population, well, all of a sudden, now shot up. 276 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: Chicago's one of the most racist cities in America. Well, 277 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: how that fucking happened. It's in the North, right, No, 278 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: it's just the racism goes where white people's uncomfortable and 279 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: this goes and they're uncomfortable when it's too many quote 280 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: unquote black people. And so yeah, a large part of 281 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: that is just and then the other thing about that exert. 282 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: Already they were talking about politicians riding that to the 283 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: to the to office, you know, and they would be 284 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: saying bombastic shit like I don't care. 285 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: Hang every nigger. 286 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: We have to to get uh, you know, to get 287 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: the South under control. Like they would say shit like that, 288 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: and you know, and then like and this was not 289 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: just idle rhetoric. You're talking about a time where people 290 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: were literally lynching folks and that meant. That was a 291 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: signal like, we gotta get out of town. You know, 292 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: they just lynched two boys for winking at a white woman. 293 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: We gotta get out of town. We don't know if 294 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: it happened or not, we just know they did. So 295 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: the politicians, how is that different from Republicans? Now, how's 296 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: that different from Donald Trump? Do he not ride racism 297 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: straight to fucking office? Like while everyone's trying to examine 298 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: economic fragility and you know, white people's you're just hard 299 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: working white people can't find a job and their anxiety 300 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: over that, while you're examining that with employment numbers under 301 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: Obama that were through the roof for white folks. Anyway, 302 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: when you're examining that and still trying to come out 303 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: with any reason but racism, That's what happened back then, 304 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: that like, after those during those eight years of reconstruction, 305 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: that's what the fuck eroded everything was white people refusing 306 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: to believe these southern white people were really as fucking 307 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: eva as black people said they were. People They went 308 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: to war with slave owning white people and they. 309 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Escaped go to black people instead. So yeah, and I 310 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: think for me, it's very frustrating because it's almost a 311 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: thing where history, you know, repeats itself and a lot 312 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: of we've talked about this for a lot of black 313 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: people buy into anti blackness and don't even realize that 314 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: they bought into it. A line and sinker and a 315 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: lot of times, you know, people talk about the white 316 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: man a lot of times, you've actually pushed the white 317 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: man in the agenda, unknowingly pushed the pushing the white 318 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: man's agenda out of your lack of knowledge, lack of history, 319 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: lack of knowing yourself, lack of knowing that you should 320 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: know these quote unquote country bunkers down southing knowing olig society. 321 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: If you track your lineage, if you go back in 322 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: your family's history, some connection to you somewhere of start 323 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: it down here if you black, that's what it's gonna 324 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: be like. 325 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: You have a very low percentage of Black Americans who 326 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: don't have a traces to slavery. 327 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: It's a very low percentage. 328 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: So to ship on this idea of slaves in the 329 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: South and all the shit, it's it's real fucked up. 330 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: Anyway, Welcome to the show, guys. That's been our reading. 331 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: Rainbow Reading Rainbow segment a reading rainbow. Yes, take a 332 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: look is enough, but I can do anything. 333 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: But yeah, so just gip the first twenty minutes every show, guys. 334 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: So a lot of news has been happening and I 335 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: definitely want to talk about it for shizzle. So let's 336 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: go ahead and get into uh, get into that stuff. 337 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: Colin Kaepernick had a workout. 338 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 5: Now. 339 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: I didn't talk about this shit all week last week. Really, 340 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: I talked about a little bit on the Sports Show 341 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: and no offense. It's because I knew what it was. 342 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: I know game is game. I didn't expect not a 343 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 3: single person's mind to be changed. Raise your hand if 344 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: you change your mind this weekend. I wait, right, everybody 345 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: feels the way they felt before this shit. I still 346 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: feel the way I felt before this shit, to be fair. 347 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: But let's go into the breakdown of the events. And 348 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: there's a lot of rumor and speculation out here, so 349 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: not all of it's being reported as what confirmed like 350 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: out of people's mouthshit. So allowed for the idea that 351 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: some disinformation may change over the next few days because 352 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what's true and what's not. And you 353 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: when you involve in two parties that don't trust each 354 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: other and would rather go to the public than each other. 355 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: It's hard to really know what what is one hundred 356 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: percent on the up and up, you know. So essentially 357 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: last Tuesday, word was sent from the NFL to Kala 358 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 3: Kaepernick's people. You have two hours to confirm, but would 359 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 3: you guys like to do a Saturday tryout basically, and 360 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: we will invite like all the teams in the NFL 361 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: to watch you perform at the NFL stadium and it'll 362 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: be close to the media. And by the way, I 363 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: heard this on Tuesday, not Saturday. It'll be close to 364 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: the media, just you and the NFL people will will 365 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: film it and then send it out to to NFL teams. Now, 366 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 3: a lot of people didn't like this for a few reasons. One, 367 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: trials are normally done on Tuesdays, when which is an 368 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: NFL like off day. 369 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: That's normally when your gms, your. 370 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: Coaches, your higher up staff had the day off so 371 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: they can travel to see something like Colin Kaepernick in person, 372 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: perform and maybe talk to him interview them. 373 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, but that was a big thing. 374 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: Right, You're doing it out Saturday when you know game 375 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: is on Sunday and Monday. Who's gonna be able to 376 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: attend with high top brass, right, good point. The other thing, 377 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: people were like, why two hour limit on whether he 378 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: can whether he says yes or not, you know, leave it. 379 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't know how long a limit would have been reasonable. 380 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: But they said two hours. 381 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: Kaepernick's team did agree to it, and he tweeted like 382 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: he was excited about it, like, yeah, I got a child, 383 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: I've told y'all being ready, I'm about to you know, 384 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. So it's like cool, you know, seemed 385 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: like this worked out. Another rumor that came out was 386 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 3: jay Z was the one who orchestrated this. I'm not 387 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: one thousand percent sure if that's true or not, but 388 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: it's been reported several different places. I saw TMZ reported 389 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: through a source that jay Z was disappointed with the outcome. 390 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: But it seems that jay Z, despite what people said 391 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: that it wasn't just a money thing for him or 392 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: power graph. It seems like to some extent, he really 393 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: did try to get this dude at least a tryout. Obviously, 394 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: you can feel how you want to. I mean, the 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: NFL could any of these teams could have tried him out. 396 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: A couple of them I believe have possibly or at 397 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: least considered it. So it's not like it's not like 398 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: jay Z can make him be on a team, and 399 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: neither can Roger Goodell. By the way, people keep thinking 400 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 3: it's that Roger Goodell's feet. But you know, I'll get 401 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: into what I think happened at the end. But yeah, so, 402 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: but that's the rumor, is that jay Z actually was 403 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: instrumental in getting him this, uh, this chance. So then uh, 404 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: and the rest of this is a lot of speculations, 405 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: So I'll. 406 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: Get to that. 407 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: So he gets to like Atlanta on Thursday, supposed to 408 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 3: be in like Georgia. I'm assuming it's gonna be at 409 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: the Superdome because I mean, what else in Atlanta has 410 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: an NFL facility that. 411 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: You would practice at. 412 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: So I go to a college facility, right people were 413 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: reporting right away. Media people on Twitter were like, yeah, 414 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: media not gonna be able to attend. Some people was like, 415 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: well maybe we can have we could have media attendant, 416 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: live tweeting and stuff like that. Like they were trying 417 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: to figure ways around it. I don't know if they 418 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 3: were negotiating that or not. Once again, I heard conflicting reports, 419 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: but mostly I heard media was not. 420 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: Gonna be able to attend. 421 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: The other thing is there was a lot of conflicting 422 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: reports about which teams would be there now. 423 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 424 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: It started off with people like, no team's gonna be there, eighteens, 425 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: eleven teens, twenty four teens, thirty one teams, all the teams, 426 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: you know, lots and uh. And with all this stuff, 427 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing was interesting to watch on 428 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: social media is people cherry picked the articles that they 429 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: felt most comfortable with aligning with their already agenda. So 430 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: if they were more in terms, if they were very 431 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 3: supportive of Kaepernick, then they would normally share the articles. 432 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 4: It said like no teams are playing on attending and 433 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: it's like. 434 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: Well, what are the odds that no teens playing on 435 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: the tending, Like come on, y'all, like like, it's just 436 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: what it is. 437 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: Now. 438 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: People share what they feel comfortable agreeing with, not not 439 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: with what might be the truth. So the final number 440 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 3: I saw settled on was somewhere around twenty four teams 441 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: were playing on the tending the workout in its original 442 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: location on Saturday at the original time, okay, and then 443 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 3: on Saturday as it was unfolding. 444 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: I'm trying to make sure I remember everything. 445 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: But as it was unfolding, it was like Kaepernick's people 446 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: put out a press release that essentially said they were 447 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: moving locations. Once again, I saw various misreportings of it. 448 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: The NFL said they're moving locations. The NFL said the 449 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: workout is off. The NFL was sounds like now after 450 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: and maybe this will change. But after after the press 451 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: release and after his statements uh to the press, after 452 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: his workout, it sounds like he and his people decided 453 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 3: to move out of the NFL facility. And uh, the 454 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: NFL had not like decided which wide receivers it was 455 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: going to give him to to use, you know, like 456 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: he was gonna get some generic public defender wide receivers. 457 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 458 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 3: So he so he played playing number one right, So 459 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: he flew in his own like homies that he's used 460 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: to working with to uh to do his wide receive 461 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: drills and stuff. But he also decided this is all 462 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: alleged and not and I have not seen proof either way, 463 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: but he decided that the waiver that he got was 464 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: not because you had to sign a waiver when you 465 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: do a trial with the NFL typically it protects them 466 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: from like injury and shit, so like if you twist 467 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: your fucking knee running, you can't like sue us for 468 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: that shit, or you know, stuff like that. Supposedly, everyone 469 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: who does a trial with the NFL signs a form 470 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 3: of a waiver. The people on Kaepernick's side, his team, 471 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: is saying this waiver has some special exceptions in it 472 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: that they did not fuck with. So like, I don't 473 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: know exactly what it was. I've seen speculated that it 474 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: was he was not going to be able. 475 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: To sue them or something. I don't know. 476 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: I also have, you know, a friend that that kind 477 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: of has some insight to the NFL that works in 478 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: that process and was like it was a standard waiver. 479 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be frank with y'all. I don't know who 480 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: to believe. And I think a lot of biases coming 481 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: into it, because we don't want to believe the NFL 482 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: on any reason for anything, but at the same time, 483 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: we want to believe Kapernick is righteous on everything. And 484 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I'm saying, Like, I 485 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: don't know why this person would lie to me, you know. 486 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: At the same time, and I really think if we 487 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: we can't get a picture of the fucking document, we 488 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: can't get a PDF of it, like what you know, 489 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: Like and maybe there's a reason they don't want us 490 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: to see it, but I'm just saying, like, why the 491 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: fuck can't we just see it? Then if that's the problem, 492 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: and you know, in a certain way, the NFL. 493 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: Can't move as quote unquote petty. 494 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: As like Cap can caps it kind of an individual 495 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: representing himself and then you know his team represents him somewhat. 496 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: But if the NFL starts doing some shit to be 497 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: like he lying, y'all, it's gonna also look like you know, 498 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: they might get sued again. 499 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: Who fucking knows. Like a company has to move with 500 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: a certain way. 501 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: You know, even when they're doing shady shit, they still 502 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: got to move a certain way to make it look 503 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: not shady. 504 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Right. 505 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: So anyway, so that the waiver was one thing, and 506 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: then the other thing is since the media wasn't gonna 507 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: be able to like broadcast it live or whatever, Kaepernick 508 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: and his team decided to move the tryout to a 509 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: high school football field and he brought his own wide 510 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: receivers and they were going to YouTube live it and 511 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: and then he talked to the press for a minute 512 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: and thirty seconds afterwards, and that was all he had 513 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: to say. 514 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: Okay with that. 515 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: I saw some of the clips and stuff, and people 516 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, he had to do this to like 517 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: show us that he could still play. Here's the thing, man, 518 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: He's been putting out clips of him doing that shit 519 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: for three years. 520 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: So nobody. 521 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: Raise your hand if you actually said, well, now that 522 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: I saw that tape, I think he can play NFL. 523 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: Everybody knows this nigga can play. 524 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: In the NFL. 525 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: His team supposedly was worried that the NFL would somehow 526 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: doctor the footage that they sent to teams to make 527 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: him look bad on purpose so that teams wouldn't sign him. 528 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: Feel how you feel about that? I'm I'm I'm gonna 529 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 3: be frank. I don't really think the NFL was going 530 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: to do that, because then what would be the fucking 531 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: point of schedule the workout. You don't have to tar 532 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: and feather this man at this point, because you honestly 533 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: wont already. 534 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: Like, Oh, so. 535 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: Teams that that that claim he can't play quarterback need 536 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: more ammunition. 537 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: They don't. 538 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: They there's three years of him not playing, so for 539 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: them to be like, yeah, we don't want him. He 540 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: hasn't played in three years. Like that, it's a it's 541 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: a self fulfilling privacy, the way that these NFL teams 542 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: blackballed him. You know, I'm trying to concentrate on the 543 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: things we all agree on, and I'll get to that 544 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 3: at the end. But I'm not one hundred that this 545 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: was as much of sham as people claiming it was. 546 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: And I still think it was shammy, but I don't 547 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: know that it was going to be them to showing 548 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: every incomplete pass he made in forty minutes and be 549 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: like he's trash, We're out. 550 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It just didn't make sense. 551 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: But then you know the. 552 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: People did media watch them, People get wrote back there 553 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: kind of progress, support us every and everyone agrees good 554 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: enough to be in the NFL at least as a 555 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 3: backup minimum. Like everyone knows this already. I don't think 556 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: this is a controversial thing to say. So then after 557 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: the end, after the workout, he does an interview where 558 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: he basically says, we did this because we want full 559 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: transparency and everything and the balls in your cord and 560 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: my agent is. 561 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: Willing to meet with any team at any. 562 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: Time, and I'm willing to try out at any time 563 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: for anyone. And you know, basically, thank y'all for coming 564 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: out and the work y'all do, and the people want 565 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: to hear from the NFL, and da da da da 566 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: and oh and I forgot to mention the most important aspect. 567 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: He took his shirt off and under it said come 568 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: to Kente for his shirt. Uh that's the clip seen. 569 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: I mean kind of a steal because I didn't see 570 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: nothing of the clips. Yeah. 571 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So with all that stuff, my personal opinion is 572 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: Jay Z and Roger Goodell would really like Colin Kaepernick 573 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: to be in the NFL. I think what most people 574 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: don't and it's and it's Roger Goodell's fault, by the way, 575 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: but what most people don't recognize Roger Goodell has limited power. 576 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: Even as commissioner. Roger Goodell is not richer than any 577 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: of those owners. And while while he likes the appearances 578 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: of I'm the big boss, the principal of the NFL, 579 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: he's not. 580 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: And this is showing the lin of his power. 581 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: The reason I feel this way is because I remember 582 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: when he also was trying to get teams to give 583 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: Michael Sam a look. 584 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: Everybody forgets about Michael Sama. 585 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: Michael Sam's a really good litmus test for Kyla Kaepernick, right, 586 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: But Roger Goodell. 587 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: Thought, this looks bad. 588 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: It looks like our league is blackballing the first openly 589 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: gay athlete to try to play in the NFL. And 590 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to be part of that, you know, 591 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: that culture. 592 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to be the 593 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: commissioner who let this happen. 594 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: So he was pressuring teams into giving him tryouts, pressuring 595 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: them into drafting him, all this shit, and and it 596 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: did look bad because every draft board before the fucking 597 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: draft had Michael Sam being drafted. 598 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it did. 599 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: And now there's a bunch of revisionist history on the 600 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: fucking defensive. 601 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: Player of the SEC. Right, Suddenly he was sorry back 602 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: like this nigga wasn't wasn't nobody, and it was like, 603 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, no. Him being gay played one 604 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: hundred percent of the fact on why people was like nope, 605 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: Suddenly he was sorry as hell. Combined numbers were just 606 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: out of the league worthy, right, And I was sudden 607 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: to see Moore, what's happening here? You know. 608 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all remember that. 609 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is Roger Goodell recently quote unquote 610 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: won a battle with Jery Jones, So Jerry Jones wanted 611 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: Roger Goodell no longer to be commissioner of the NFL 612 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: because he felt Roger Goodell didn't step up and lead 613 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: on the NFL protests where people took a. 614 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: Knee right because he was having a fucking fit and 615 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: showing his ass and ended up getting the Papa John's 616 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: dude involved, and he went and fucked his Papa John 617 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: dollards up. 618 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: And he tried to user Roger Goodell as commissioner and 619 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: get somebody else in there. But the other owners, since 620 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: they're all making money hand over fist and Roger Goodell's 621 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: been good for business, they were like, no, just leave 622 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: him alone. But here's the thing that people didn't recognize 623 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: at that. While Roger Goodell got his new contract and 624 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: got his money and he's probably gone after this, by 625 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 3: the way, while he did that, he still kind of 626 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: loss because Roger Goodell wanted the owners to understand we 627 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: should not do anything about people taking the knee. Everybody 628 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: forgets this because he's the face of the NFL, and 629 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: he's a white dude, you know people like, and he's 630 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: not Adam Silver, He's not like I encourage you to 631 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: take a knee. He was just kind of like, look, 632 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: this is their right, whether you agree with it or not. 633 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: It's like y'all actually making it a thing by fucking 634 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: paying it attention. And now it don't fucking matter because 635 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: now we don't show the shit snow most so nobody gives. 636 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: A fuck, right So, but it was interesting though, because 637 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: I don't think people peeped up the nuance in that 638 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: because they was like the NFL, Roger Goodell's anonymous, they're 639 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: all evil, they all hate Colin Kaepernick. They all want 640 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: him out of the league. It's collusion, it's blackballing. Roger 641 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: Goodell tried to save the owners from themselves, like listen, 642 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna get sued and lose, We're gonna get deposed, 643 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: just fucking like one of you guys, bite the bullet. 644 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Get the guy on the team. Right. Initially, nobody was 645 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: willing to. 646 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: And every time someone did kind of want to give 647 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: Colin the Kantz or you will hear rumblings of it, 648 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: they sounded scared because the NFL owners are old, rich 649 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: white men for the most part, except for the brand 650 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: new dude for the Jacksonville Jaguars, and they only care. 651 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: And are fearful of fucking white fans. 652 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: They don't care about Black fans. 653 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, we don't count like our protestations are. I'm 654 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: not watching the NFL, no mo, because Kaepernick ain't got 655 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: a job all that shit. 656 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: They don't give a fuck about that. It's like it 657 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: didn't happen. 658 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: Right. 659 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: When they talk about Papa John's sales numbers going down, 660 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: they say it's because the NFL kneeling, and the assumption 661 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: is because white people hate the NFL and they hate kneeling, 662 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 3: so they don't buy Papa John's. They never think because 663 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: black people are mad Kaepernick's being ostracidy. 664 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: It was like, fuck Papa John's too. It's like, all 665 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: at the same time, everybody's going fuck the NFL. 666 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: Nobody cares about us, right except other black people. 667 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: And the thing is our number shift shit, But we 668 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: don't get credit for our numbers shifting. 669 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: Right when radings down, they say this because the white 670 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 3: people were upset, Not black people were upset. 671 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: The white people were upset. 672 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: With the players continuing to take a knee. 673 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 3: You know, I won't reiterate the idea that of the 674 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: NFL as a stand in for the American police uh 675 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: over abuse. I know that the NFL can't stop that. 676 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: Every player could take a knee every weekend and they're 677 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: still gonna kill niggas. But but I think what's most 678 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: important here, and this is the thing I said I 679 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: wanted to get to. 680 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, I'm not done. 681 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: I do think this was done in good faith on 682 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: Jay Z and Goodell's part. 683 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: I do not. 684 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: Think that they gave Colin Kaepernick an easy road in 685 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: because my guess is with the two hour window, with 686 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: the no media, with the waiver or whatever, the NFL 687 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: was trying to see if Colin Kaepernick was willing to 688 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: play play ball. 689 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: And I don't mean play football, I. 690 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: Mean if he was willing to capitulate a bit, bend 691 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: a bit to the league in a way they would 692 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 3: like him to enter the league. 693 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: They both like. 694 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: It's to me, it's kind of a pissing contest between 695 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: both parties at this point. And Kaepernick, as evidenced by 696 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: the shirt, is like I will play football on my 697 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: terms or not at all, and I think both of 698 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 3: them have a fucking valid point because you are asking 699 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 3: for the NFL's check, and the NFL is like going 700 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 3: to want to know you're gonna carry water for them, 701 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: not saying it's fair, not saying it's right. 702 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 2: Obviously it's fucked up. 703 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: But even the motherfuckers that beat women and fucking rape 704 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 3: people and murder people and drive drunk, they all have 705 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 3: to tow a bit of a line when it comes 706 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: to the NFL or they have to go. 707 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 4: Perfect example, Greg Hardy R. Greg Hardy was a dude. 708 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: They let back in knowing what he did, and he 709 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: was cool until he's start getting in the locker room 710 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: talking about I forget what the last thing was, but 711 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: it was either like hitting women again or something, and 712 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden it was like he gotta go. 713 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't like Greg Hardy became a terrible NFL player. 714 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: He showed he would not carry water for the NFL 715 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: and just act even close the same. For five minutes 716 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: after a game, they were like, well, now we can't 717 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: even pretend that we don't see this. And so with Colin, 718 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: I think Colin is like, I'm gonna be agitating. That's 719 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: what I do. I'm an activist, you know, I'm They 720 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 3: tried to play me. I'm playing them back. 721 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: You know that. 722 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 3: Now, thank you NFL for getting all eyes on me. 723 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: Now I narrative. 724 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: Here's my camera showing me throwing. 725 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: Here's my T shirt in the YouTube views right. 726 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 3: Here's my here's my one minute and thirty five second 727 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 3: comment to the press. 728 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going in any more details. I'm not talking nothing, 729 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: which means people viewsing opinions on me of not readly 730 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: gonna change. 731 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: Here's my press release ahead of the workout, to get 732 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: ahead of the story. Like, I mean, the dude is 733 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 3: super savvy. I think he's I'll say this again, perfect 734 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 3: for the Internet age of activism. Yes, because he's really 735 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: good at not saying much and letting us fill in 736 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 3: the blanks and say everything for him. 737 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: I saw people that said, like, bar none, if he. 738 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 3: Would have come in and played the game or quote 739 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: unquote the right way, you know, show like showed some 740 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: capitulation to the NFL, came in, did the workout. There 741 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: were people that were saying, arrange between he d Murray Smith, 742 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: the guy who's over the players Union, he was like 743 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: the NFLPA. I mean player association. He was like, if 744 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: he comes in and doesn't work out, he'll have a 745 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 3: job in two weeks. 746 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: I'm sure of it. 747 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's saying that hopefully, or if 748 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: you're saying that because like, oh, I know, I've talked 749 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: to teams kle We're ready to have Colin back if 750 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: he just comes in and plays a game. I don't 751 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: know why that man would be lying or not, because 752 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: the PA is kind of the opposite of the NFL. 753 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 3: Brass Like they don't really get a lot of He 754 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: don't get a lot of credit for standing up for 755 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: the NFL. He gets a lot of credit for standing 756 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: up for the players. So why the fuck would he 757 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: say that. I don't know unless he, you know, was 758 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 3: just being hopeful, optimistic, like a lot of people were, 759 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: so yeah, I just don't think that it was really 760 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 3: going to be Like I do think that the hoops 761 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: they asked him to jump for while through, while they 762 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: may not have been to me ridiculous, they were enough 763 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 3: to let you find like, if you were biased one 764 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: way or other, it was enough to be like, and 765 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: that's why you shouldn't do it. Or if he doesn't 766 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: do this, he don't want to play, and you've seen 767 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 3: that play out on social media over and over, people 768 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: calling each other coons and shit about it. The other 769 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: part of it, too, is with Cap like I told 770 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: people this, I want to say it was. It has 771 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: to be five years ago now. It was on balls 772 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: Y Sports. It was a very short article, but it 773 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: was him being interviewed after he was injured, before he 774 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: took a knee, so it was him and his comeback 775 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: to the NFL is when he lost out that way 776 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: he went vegan. I don't know if you guys remember this, 777 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 3: but he did an interview and part of the interview 778 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: he was like, they were like, what you learned from 779 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 3: being injured for so long? And he was like, I 780 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: learned that I don't need football and I'm who I 781 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: am outside of football as a person like football, the 782 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: NFL and this job is not be all end off. 783 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: And ever since I've taken that shit the heart when. 784 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: He said it, and I legitimately believed that a big 785 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: part of his power as a symbol and as a 786 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,919 Speaker 3: man is that he don't need football in the way 787 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 3: that a lot of people feel like they need that sport, 788 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: they need that money, they need that fame, that adulation. 789 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 3: He's getting a lot of the fame and shit, even 790 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 3: the money from being a symbol and an icon and 791 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 3: an activist in three years. Yeah, so like you know, 792 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: you can make it. I mean, he's still rich. It 793 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 3: ain't like we're talking about broke people problems. Everybody involved 794 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: this as rich as fuck. But it's just interesting because 795 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't think people want to give any like, if 796 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 3: you're on one side or the other, you don't want 797 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: to give any credit to the other side being escalating 798 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: the conflict. 799 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: Right. 800 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: This is a great example of conflict versus abuse, where 801 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 3: it's like two sides are a conflict, but if you're 802 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: on one side, the other side is just an abusive asshole, 803 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: and if you're on the other side, that side is 804 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 3: an abusive asshole, right, And that's what I see unfolding 805 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: online and the fights between. 806 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: Like Steven A. Smith and Eric Reid and different journalists 807 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: and shit, it's just it's ridiculous. 808 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: So I want to bring it back to one thing. 809 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 3: I think we can all agree on. Colin Kaepernick is 810 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: good enough to play football at quarterback in the NFL. 811 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: I think everyone can agree on that. 812 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm can we just go back to that, because I'm 813 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 3: telling you right now there's nuance on both sides of 814 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 3: this shit that people don't want to examine, and it's 815 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 3: because it's uncomfortable to. 816 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: Be like right now, Steveh Nate Smith's a kuhn. 817 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 3: Steven Nate Smith got called kuhn for three years by 818 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: Eric Reed before he finally went snapped off. And I 819 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 3: actually went and played his video, read his tweets because 820 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 3: I wanted to know, like, where the fuck is this 821 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: coming from? 822 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 823 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 3: Because I think that ship with Steven Aate Smith I 824 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 3: obviously don't agree with, and that's politics of his that 825 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 3: I you know, any of them niggas that played the 826 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 3: talking head on TV game what you used to do 827 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 3: like going mssing mece and shit, I can't really fuck 828 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: with any of them because they have by nature of 829 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: their job, they have to be on TV and be 830 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: cool with these motherfuckers that I completely abhor Like you 831 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 3: gotta go on TV and talk to fucking you know, 832 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 3: Sean Hannity. Nah, I'm not with it. I get that 833 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 3: that's how you make your bread and that's your belief system. 834 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: I don't know how to fuck you do that you know, 835 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 3: but nobody wants to talk about the shit that Steven A. 836 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: Smith said. That was right. 837 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 3: He said, y'all asking for the league's money, and y'all 838 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 3: don't want to capitulate at all to them who you're. 839 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: Asking for the money. 840 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 2: That's true. All of us with y'alls know that you 841 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 2: fouled your grievance, you won your grievance. 842 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: You're still coming back to them for money and you 843 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 3: don't want to jump through none of the hoops. 844 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: That's your right, yes it is. 845 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 3: But at the same time, like people noticing that and 846 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 3: being like, well, you're kind of making it worse. 847 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that'll make you a coon. And you 848 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: can also point out they have the right and not 849 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 2: to hire you if you're not willing to abide by 850 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: their ruths. 851 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: Right, And you know Eric Reed calling this man a 852 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: coon using Sam bow step and fetch your shit. 853 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 2: That's Twitter memeshit. 854 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 3: That Max seemed funny to us because it's not happening 855 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 3: to us, right, But how to fund any self respecting 856 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: black person is gonna take that for years and years 857 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: and years to be cool with it? 858 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 2: Right? 859 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: You know, I can see how Jason were like or 860 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 3: somebody that's written off all black people long ago might 861 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 3: do that. 862 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: But y'all peep game. Y'all. 863 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: Notice how other black sports journalists aren't calling Stephen they 864 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 3: smiths out like that work with him and have worked 865 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 3: with him at ESPN before. 866 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: Like he's helped a lot of them people. Right, some 867 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 2: of our faves, some of our phase were empowered by 868 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: that dude, Like you don't never know what people do 869 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, Like. 870 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 3: It's easy for us to do that shit when we're 871 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 3: we have no dog in a fight, so we can 872 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 3: just be like your coon ass nigga, you sell out 873 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: Uncle Tom. Okay, Well, it's it's interesting who's not saying shit, 874 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 3: isn't it? Because some some people can legitimately disagree with 875 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: that and this this is something that has been lost. 876 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 3: It's a lost Are I blame I want to blame 877 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 3: social media, but maybe it's always been this way. This 878 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 3: idea was you can't fucking you can't disagree with somebody 879 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 3: and still be like I feel you, but I disagree, 880 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 3: I respect you, but I disagree. 881 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: We have lost that. Now you just a coon? 882 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: Right, Like That's like there's levels to this ship. There 883 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 3: are some people who are just they are not well meaning. 884 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: They are evil intentioned people. They want to see the 885 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: words for you, but to me, what you see Stephen A. 886 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 3: Smith saying, because he does care about Colin Kaepernick and 887 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 3: Eric Reid, and he even says Klin Kaepernick should be 888 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 3: in the league. 889 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm an. 890 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 3: Older black man giving you some game. If you want 891 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: to play in this game, you're gonna have to give 892 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 3: in to some of these unfair rules. On the principal. Sure, 893 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 3: we all agree on the principal, something's unfair. You should 894 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: just stand up against it and fuck it right. He's like, 895 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 3: but in reality, if you really do believe that you 896 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 3: want to play in this league, you gonna you gonna 897 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 3: you can't show up with the shirt. You can't uh 898 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 3: use the location because you didn't like the waiver. Like, 899 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to to some extent give deference to 900 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 3: the situation if and understand that that it is a 901 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 3: special case. Colin doesn't want to do that. You know, 902 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 3: I really do feel like that's what the fuck happened? 903 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 3: And Marline says, what happened? I talking offline? 904 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: Eric Readers called his man a coon online for three 905 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 2: year strength. That's my thing and maybe it's just me. 906 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, you show your ass 907 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 2: in public, some people will be like, Okay, cool, let's 908 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: go behind the seats. But some people go, oh, if 909 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 2: we gonna be public, we're gonna be public. They have 910 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 2: they have the right if they choose to announce up 911 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 2: to them, they have the right to respond back to 912 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 2: you on the same platform you showed your ass on. Yeah, right, Like. 913 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of weird because people people do that with 914 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 3: me sometimes, when they come at me sideways and be like, 915 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 3: why'd you quote tweet me? Why'd you say something about 916 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: on your show? Hey, man, if you come at me 917 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 3: in public, I might get tired of the shit. I 918 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: can't be the bigger man every fucking day. So you know, 919 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 3: it's like, I'm trying to tell you about how I 920 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 3: feel about the ship the same way I could be private. 921 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: You could be private, right, It's. 922 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 3: Only when I get the upper handed we pulled a 923 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 3: like wait a minute, shit, especially after I haven't said 924 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: shit directly to you for a while. Keep in mind, 925 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 3: this is not saying everything Steven A. Smith is right, 926 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get. 927 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: Back to that. No, No, not saying that at all. 928 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: But but but that's something I agree with. If we're 929 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 2: gonna be public, let's be one hundred percent public, right, 930 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 2: Eric Reen should have never did that in the public platform. 931 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 2: He should have came he. 932 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 4: Didn't want Well, I don't know that every reason uncomfortable 933 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 4: talking about in public. 934 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, saying Steven A smish right, Just 935 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 2: for people that are saying that Steven A. Smith should 936 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: have said it offline. And I'm not attacking anybody saying that. 937 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 2: I'm just saying from my perspective, if you're gonna say, well, 938 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: everything should be kept off line, well, it should been 939 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: kept offline from the beginning. You're talking on this public 940 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: platform where everybody can see all eyes out there. It's 941 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: not like we're doing it private. But then I have 942 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 2: the right to yeah. 943 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: And then Marlone also says, when will it end? I 944 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: let you talk about me for three years and didn't 945 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: say shit, So now I'm the bagger Like it could 946 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 3: have ended in any point in time in three years 947 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 3: if you would have left me the fuck alone, like 948 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: you know this like this, uh, this is it kind 949 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: of hits home with me because this has happened with 950 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 3: the podcast before. Think yeah, well, I've tolerated somebody lying 951 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 3: on me or talking sideways about me and being like, 952 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm just when they go low, we go high and 953 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: just try to do that. And then one day when 954 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 3: I do clap back, people are like, wow, I can't 955 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 3: wow ride. I mean, you know, a lot of people 956 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 3: get their life to it. They love it because it's entertaining. 957 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 3: But then there's also people like, man, y'all think you 958 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 3: went too far. You know, you didn't have to do this, 959 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 3: you know, and it's like, okay, so. 960 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 4: Where were you at when when this ship was escalating? 961 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 2: Where were you not? Why weren't you intervening in telling 962 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: them you went too far? 963 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 3: You can tell that man you disagree and not be 964 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 3: like you tap dancing sambo ass come you can do 965 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 3: and let's be frank. Eric Reid is not keeping that 966 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 3: same smoke for these white people, Like like, there's a 967 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 3: certain twins to it when it's a black person that 968 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 3: he's adding that extra on there. And this is something 969 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 3: that's common with black people in general. But it's extra 970 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 3: when it's Jay Z, it's extra when it's when it's 971 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 3: Stephen A. 972 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 2: Smith. 973 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 3: It's extra with the black folks that he doesn't agree 974 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 3: with when this is Gorodrea Goodell, he. 975 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 2: Ain't calling him out of his name like that. 976 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 3: You know, Like it's like, even in your your rebelliousness, 977 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 3: there's still a difference to whiteness that you're throwing out there. 978 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 3: You're not hopping online and talking to Pro football talk 979 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: sideways every day, you know, like when white people get 980 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 3: these opinions, you don't agree with what they is, just ignored. 981 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 3: They get a pass. We just assume, oh, you don't agree, 982 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 3: you don't have to single them out. Nah, it's a 983 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 3: certain like let's be let's recognize all the escalations from 984 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 3: both sides. 985 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: Now that being said, with Steven A. 986 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: Smith, I think he's ridiculous to attack Eric Greed for 987 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 3: playing in the NFL. I think that's ridiculous. That's what 988 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: he does for a living. They file to work, plays grievance. 989 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 3: He was allowed to go back to work. 990 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: His teammate. 991 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 3: In the grievance was not. Why the fuck wouldn't he 992 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 3: be mad? He still agrees that his friend should be fucking. 993 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: Playing, and we all do so. 994 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 3: I don't see how that has any fucking bearing on 995 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 3: the thing. You know, if you're saying, well, you're so principal, 996 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 3: you should not play until he plays. Well, they're still 997 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 3: trying to go back and get a check from the NFL. 998 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: Like I said, there's nuance in gray area to this shit. 999 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 3: I don't fuck with no one. I don't even discuss 1000 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 3: this or talk to people who don't deal with gray 1001 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 3: areas because you're literally wasting my time as I don't 1002 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 3: do it online. I love saving this shit for the podcast, 1003 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 3: where as me and you or a guest or the 1004 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 3: chat room because there's people that can understand, like, oh, 1005 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: it's not as black and white as I was presented online. 1006 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: Right. And to go back to what my Lee was saying, baby, 1007 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: I do I understand you because from her perspective, she's 1008 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: looking like y'all are just making a shit show, which 1009 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: I completely like. Like from that perspective, I completely understand 1010 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 2: what is the end? I completely understand that point too. 1011 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something though yesterday I talked about 1012 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 4: on the Feedback show. 1013 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 2: Remember when I told you about the deal with the 1014 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: list through the list in the trash. 1015 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 3: There were some people that came up to me afterwards 1016 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 3: and were like, man, why you had to let him 1017 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 3: do that? 1018 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 2: Oh? 1019 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 3: Man, you could you couldn't have just put him on 1020 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 3: the list and let him just slide up there. Now 1021 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 3: you're through the list in the trash? Where was all 1022 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 3: this when he was acting stupid? 1023 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: And that's that's all I'm saying, Like I don't like this. 1024 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna show up late and be like, well, it's 1025 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 3: like both of y'all fighting, right cause he was hitting 1026 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 3: me and I hit him back. Now, like I just 1027 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 3: couldn't let him hit me forever, you know what I'm saying. 1028 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 3: And so now that we have an altercation and I'm 1029 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 3: talking Aery Steph Nate Smith, not Capper Nick Nfl. Now 1030 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 3: that we have an altercation, that's when the well comra 1031 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 3: heads need to prevail. Shit, No comra heads need to 1032 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 3: be prevailing. When this nigga was roasting me for three 1033 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 3: years and I was letting him cook for the most part, 1034 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 3: you know. So yeah, I think that was kind of 1035 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: kind of I just felt like that that that ship 1036 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 3: with Eric Read and Steven A. Smith is a bigger schism, 1037 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 3: and that's what that's really what a lot of the 1038 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 3: Kaepernick shit has turned into. It's not about him anymore, 1039 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 3: and it's definitely not about police violence. It's about calling 1040 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 3: somebody a coon or not calling him a coon. 1041 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 2: And that's it. 1042 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 3: And like I said, I don't really job with Stephen 1043 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 3: A Smith like this, So this isn't like a defense 1044 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 3: of like Steve Nate Smith. 1045 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: Is a man, blah blah blah. 1046 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 3: It's just in this situation, I don't know that all 1047 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: this shit was called for. You could have just as 1048 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 3: much disagreed with him and left it at that. Now 1049 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 3: people are on some like this respectability politics. 1050 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 4: Coon. 1051 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 2: I'm like you, niggas know you can't show up to 1052 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 2: the job interview. 1053 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 4: And the Black Lives Matter T shirt that we all 1054 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 4: agree is. 1055 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 3: A great T shirt and we can support the message. 1056 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 3: But you also know if you go to Wakovia, I 1057 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 3: know they don't exist no more. If you go to 1058 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 3: if you go to Bank of America with the fucking 1059 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter shirt on instead of a suit, they 1060 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 3: probably they won't hire you, and we can go that's wrong, 1061 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 3: and in a just world they should hire you no 1062 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 3: matter what you come in there in the throng, whether 1063 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 3: I have to do it, if you can do the 1064 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 3: job or not. 1065 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: We know there's a game you play before you even 1066 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 2: get a chance to play the game. Colin don't want 1067 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 2: to play that game. 1068 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 4: That's fine. I respect it and I. 1069 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 2: Understand it, and I'm not even fitting to like come 1070 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: down on that man about that. He don't want to 1071 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 2: do it. 1072 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 3: Even if he says I want to play. He wants 1073 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 3: to play the way he wants to play, you know 1074 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 3: what I mean. He wants to get in the league 1075 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 3: being Colin Kaepernick activist quarterback. 1076 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 2: That's okay. 1077 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 3: And if they won't let him do it, then it's 1078 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 3: just too bad, you know what I mean. Like he's 1079 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 3: willing to sacrifice his career to make this point. I 1080 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 3: really don't think why people have to. I don't get 1081 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 3: the part where it then becomes about everything except this 1082 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 3: kind of pisson contest between two entities and. 1083 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 2: Lost in the shovel. 1084 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 3: Jay Z did more for Colin Kaepernick getting him that 1085 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: fucking try out then anyone has done for him in 1086 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 3: the last three years. There's nobody that was getting him 1087 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 3: a look from the NFL period from the outside. No 1088 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 3: amount of tweets, no amount of hashtags, no amount of 1089 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 3: of other players advocating for him. 1090 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 2: The real the real ty is jay Z's. 1091 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 3: Pressure on the NFL from the inside got Colin Kaepernick 1092 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 3: to look, and Colin Kaepernick decided to do what he 1093 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 3: wanted to do because he didn't appreciate the quality of 1094 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 3: the look. But I mean, more than one thing is 1095 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 3: being true at the same time here and people can't 1096 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 3: handle that. 1097 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true too. And also I do think 1098 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 2: it is human nature for people to, you know, see 1099 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 2: the back and forth and because like I said, that 1100 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 2: is the social part of social media, just interject thing 1101 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: and saying or applying how they would respond to it 1102 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 2: and things like that. When do you just have to 1103 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: kind of let it play out as why as that 1104 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: may sound, and just and just be like, okay, from 1105 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 2: what I know now, this is how I feel. 1106 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, I'm when I see him outside 1107 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 3: the shirt, I said, okay, So he he doesn't want. 1108 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 2: It that bad and that's fine. Like he got money, 1109 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 2: he got like he can do it. Oh you know 1110 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: what else I found out too though? 1111 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 3: So you know that TI podcast, the one where they 1112 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 3: was laughing and they took the episode down because he 1113 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 3: said that shit about his daughter's himman. Colin Kaepernick's girlfriend 1114 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 3: was one of the co hosts of that show, so 1115 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 3: she was one of the people laughing and. 1116 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 2: They took it down. 1117 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 3: Would have never fucking known, because we have agendas around 1118 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 3: the people that we fucking with right now. And so 1119 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 3: even with the one star reviews and shit, it wasn't like, 1120 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 3: and this is who Colin Kaefern niggas dating. 1121 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: Or any of that shit, you know, I didn't hear that. 1122 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 2: I didn't even know. 1123 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 3: I never see anybody bring up the fact that he's 1124 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 3: dating a non black woman type shit, like it's like, 1125 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: we protect the people we fuck with the people we 1126 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 3: don't fuck with, we shit on. That's just that's Twitter 1127 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 3: in a nutshell for you, Like, there's no agenda against 1128 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 3: her right now. 1129 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: So that shit didn't come up. 1130 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 3: But the woke niggas that you know, particularly don't like 1131 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 3: non black people comment on black girls bodies and shit 1132 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 3: and all that them motherfuckers wasn't nowhere to be found 1133 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,399 Speaker 3: when this shit was popping off last week. 1134 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even know. A friend told me that, and 1135 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: I was like, are you sure, because that normally would 1136 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 2: have been the number one thing if people had agendas, 1137 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 2: that would have been the number one thing about up. Yeah. 1138 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 2: So I can't keep up with all these moving ass agendas. 1139 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 3: I just don't the only thing I took from this 1140 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 3: workout is I feel exactly how I feel before. And 1141 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 3: I don't think neither one of these motherfuckers really want 1142 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 3: to work together. 1143 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: Not the NFL, not Kaepernick. Yeah, none of it cause 1144 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: just be told and no normally sound wow, I don't 1145 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 2: actually benefits both parties, you know, to an extent, and 1146 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 2: benefits the owners because the owners are like good, we 1147 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 2: don't have to deal with them. And the benefits calling 1148 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 2: Kapernick because we could continue to not say nothing and 1149 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 2: people throw money at him and he could be continue 1150 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 2: to be the face the shit if people continue to 1151 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 2: pay him. Yeah. 1152 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: Well, Also, I mean people talked about jay Z playing 1153 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 3: himself for the NFL. I think he if anything, it 1154 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,919 Speaker 3: sound like he played himself to get Kaepernikka shot, which 1155 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 3: is even funnier now if you I mean, look, I 1156 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 3: want him to laugh about these things. 1157 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 2: Come on, I can't be serious about this shit too much. 1158 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: You have to check out at some point. 1159 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 3: But it's even funnier if you think about it, because 1160 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 3: Jay fucking played himself to help the dude without really 1161 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 3: consulting him, and it sounds like if he were to 1162 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: consulted cap the real truth is CAP don't want help 1163 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 3: because he don't necessarily want to be back in the 1164 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 3: league on their terms. 1165 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 2: So all this, I'm gonna get you the shot that 1166 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 2: they wouldn't give you. 1167 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you. D're gonna show him you could play, 1168 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 3: and then they gonna get you with the job. 1169 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 2: That shit is done. 1170 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 3: And then the funniest part is gonna be like, if 1171 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 3: he does get a job after all this bullshit, people still. 1172 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 4: Gonna find a way that's jay Z's fault, like. 1173 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 2: Like agendas of that and they don't like that. That 1174 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 2: ships strong as fuck, man, But yeah, good luck to 1175 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 2: h to Cap beautiful beautiful. 1176 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, jay Z held his charity galla last night, Beyonce. 1177 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: It was looking great. 1178 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 4: Come on, No nobody talked about. 1179 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 3: It because you know, he's currently a coon, so we 1180 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 3: can't talk about you know, the kids he's sending the 1181 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 3: school and ship because that don't have that don't fit 1182 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 3: the narrative of him, you know, being a sellout and. 1183 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 2: Io on Instagram and honey, she was ever m hm, 1184 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: we stay in the capitalist come uh show. 1185 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, I think if Eric Reed really is 1186 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 3: down with CAP, he would let Kaepernick wear his jersey 1187 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 3: to sneak into the Panthers facility, and then Kaepernick could 1188 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 3: tie up Kyle. He could tie Kyle Allen the quarterback, 1189 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 3: and then go out and play in Kyle Allen's jersey 1190 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 3: as quarterback. And then at the end of the game 1191 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 3: he reveals it's been Kaepernick the whole time, and y'all 1192 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 3: didn't even notice because he's an NFL quality quarterback. Okay, 1193 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: he could play that game. That's the sadist part of 1194 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 3: all the shit. He clearly belongs on the fucking field. 1195 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 3: Everything about everything, everything else about it is a distraction. 1196 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 3: Even if you disagree with his quote unquote politics, it 1197 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 3: doesn't change that he fucking belongs on the field of 1198 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL uniform. He's better than He's better than 1199 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 3: so many people. It's so it's so sad that this 1200 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 3: shit has turned into like we can tolerate fucking people 1201 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 3: beating kids and women and rapists and murderers and DUIs 1202 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 3: and drug addicts and people that do performance enhancing drugs, 1203 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 3: and oh, we can do everything except this one time 1204 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 3: when the niggas just like, what about all these black 1205 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 3: people getting killed? 1206 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 2: That's the one fuck, man, that's how America works. We 1207 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 2: don't give a fuck what you talking about. But don't 1208 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: be talking about letting nobody sitting nobody free. What God, 1209 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 2: you got to go? 1210 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 3: Like I, I always go back to what I told 1211 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 3: justin in year one of this shit, where I was like, 1212 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 3: the only problem Kaepernick really gonna have is that the 1213 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 3: NFL can't do shit about it if they wanted to. 1214 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 3: They can't stop the police violence. They couldn't even stop 1215 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 3: domestic violence within the league. They Roger, and this all 1216 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 3: comes back to Roger Goodell that nigga over promised the fuck. 1217 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 2: Out of that position. When he got that job, he. 1218 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 3: Said he was gonna be the new shaff, he was 1219 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 3: gonna clean up all the player behavior shit, and so 1220 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 3: that made it look like he was the fucking principal 1221 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 3: of the school. You can't be principal of a bunch 1222 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 3: of grown ass rich niggas. And people are human, so 1223 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 3: they're gonna make mistakes. Some of them gonna be criminals, 1224 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 3: some of them not. Do y'all know that the NFL 1225 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 3: as an organization and their players in general, have a 1226 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 3: much lower crime rate than the fucking like general public. 1227 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 2: Does everybody notice they're below every in DUIs. 1228 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 3: Domestic violence sexual all the shit that you would think, 1229 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 3: like when we think of the NFL and we think 1230 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 3: of these more fucker's got a problem. They're all below 1231 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 3: you and your cowork at your job, all of them, 1232 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 3: every category. It's just their shit becomes stories. And I 1233 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 3: think low key, high key whatever was lost in the 1234 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 3: shuffle here is the prevalent racism of America, jealous of 1235 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 3: these black men who make quote unquote too much money 1236 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 3: to play a game. And this shit started decade over 1237 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 3: a decade ago when Goodell got that job, because it 1238 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 3: was I want a white man to come in and clean. 1239 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 2: Up black behavior. You got Ray Lewis, and there you 1240 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 2: got this in this So all of. 1241 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 3: A sudden, it became like, if we scare and penalize 1242 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 3: these black men unlike we do in other sports, because 1243 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 3: at the time they weren't doing that in other sports. 1244 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 3: If we penalize them, they'll they'll stop, they'll stop being criminals. 1245 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 2: They'll stop. 1246 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 3: They won't get DUIs anymore because now they're losing game checks. 1247 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 3: Nothing's changed because people that do stuff like get DUI's 1248 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 3: normally have actual problems that lead to them over medicating 1249 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 3: with alcohol. People that have domestic violence issues, typically have 1250 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 3: come from a long history of domestic violence and have 1251 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 3: seen it themselves, and that cycle needs to be broken, 1252 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 3: not because you didn't get to play a game, but 1253 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 3: by some actual intervention, you know, and not when the 1254 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 3: fucking criminal justice system and the police can't do anything 1255 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 3: in real life to stop Joe your coworker from killing 1256 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 3: his wife. The odds of them stopping these rich athletes, 1257 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 3: these rich, famous men are He's even lower than that. 1258 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 3: So when you do have one that is a quote 1259 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 3: unquote bad egg, you're probably not gonna be able to 1260 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 3: scare them with football out of doing it. We know 1261 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 3: people that go shoot up places and kill themselves, Well, 1262 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 3: how do you stop that? This is what can we 1263 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 3: give them the definitely, like the fear of incarceration and 1264 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 3: punishment is already much lower for rich people because it's 1265 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 3: more likely not gonna do it, and the fear of 1266 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 3: losing a fucking game check is not gonna necessarily make 1267 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 3: someone who loses control and in a race age be 1268 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 3: a better person. Quote unquote well, I normally would hit 1269 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 3: my wife and give a damn to the consequences, but 1270 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to miss that Saint Louis game. 1271 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 2: That's not the process going through these people's head. 1272 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 3: They need actual therapy, help and intervention and pre intervention, right, 1273 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 3: But we don't want to talk about that. 1274 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 2: It's not as convenient as saying, don't let him play 1275 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 2: for four games. 1276 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to see him anymore. 1277 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 3: That'll solve it. And Roger Goodell's a guy who sold 1278 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 3: that to everyone. It was not always like that in 1279 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: major sports. David Stern before him a bit with the 1280 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 3: drugs in the NBA that he tried to clean up. 1281 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 2: But this is different, man. So I think. 1282 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 4: I think people need to stop worrying about the punishment 1283 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 4: and start worrying about. 1284 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 2: How do you prevent this shit? 1285 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 3: You know, Josh Gordon being kicked off of seventeen teams 1286 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 3: because he can't stay out of drugs. That's not a 1287 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 3: if he loses a game check, he'll fucking stop doing drugs. 1288 01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 3: He has a drug addiction problem. Like that's not just convenient, 1289 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 3: and we can't talk about that on Sunday morning football 1290 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 3: recap shows come on. 1291 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 2: So because all of a sudden we have to have compassion. Yeah, 1292 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: so a lot of this shit just mad. 1293 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 3: This is a big ass mess, so big ass men 1294 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 3: is I don't really feel sorry for anybody involved, except 1295 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 3: a bit for Kaepernick, because I just feel like, even 1296 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 3: if you disagree with his to me very basic humane 1297 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 3: point of view, you still he still should be on 1298 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 3: a team because there are people that that that people 1299 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 3: that call people niggering are on a fucking NFL team. 1300 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Come on, man, what the fuck is There can be 1301 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 3: no argument against this man, even if you think he 1302 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 3: shouldn't a wod that shirt. There is no argument that 1303 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 3: I will hear against this man being on the team. 1304 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 3: He should just be on the team. Just be on 1305 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 3: the team and boo him like, what what's up with that? 1306 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 3: I feel like they dispected the truths. Okay, well he's here, 1307 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 3: you can boot him now, Like the fuck. I'm not 1308 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 3: trying to make everyone. 1309 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Agree with me. I understand this is America. You don't 1310 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 2: have to like to dude. I don't like several people, 1311 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 2: but if they're fucking doing their job, good, What the 1312 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: fuck am I supposed to say? Right? All right, speaking 1313 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 2: of it, let's keep the disgust going. This just happened. 1314 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 3: Well, it was just to discuss because we talked about 1315 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 3: this last week and these niggas asked for him to 1316 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 3: come back and now that he's back now, they just 1317 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 3: using it to tear him down and taking him out 1318 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 3: of context. 1319 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 4: Barack Obama, what happened? 1320 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 3: So he spoke at the what was this second Obama 1321 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 3: Foundation summit at the Marriott Marquee Hotel in Chicago November nineteen, 1322 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 3: and he was talking about a bunch of shit, by 1323 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 3: the way, but he was talking about, uh, some of 1324 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 3: the some of the like liberal elite people in the 1325 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Democratic Party that essentially say, listen, America is the most 1326 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 3: progressive values that we hold, and that's what everybody wants, 1327 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 3: and if we run on that will win everywhere. 1328 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 2: That's that's all everybody wants everywhere. 1329 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 3: And so he says, we have a feel of very accomplished, 1330 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 3: very serious and passionate and smart people who have a 1331 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 3: history of public service, and whoever emerges from the primary process, 1332 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 3: I will work my tail off to make sure they 1333 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 3: are the next president, he told a room of a 1334 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 3: few hundred of the party's biggest donors, the top strategists 1335 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 3: gathered for a conference of the Democracy Alliance group. The 1336 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 3: room was populated by Warren leaning versions of the kind 1337 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 3: of people Obama now that have recently been wearing out 1338 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 3: their loafers searching for a savior, candidate constantly frightened about 1339 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 3: electability and seating the national conversation that has born the 1340 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 3: recent late entries of Michael Bloomberg and the Daval Patrick 1341 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 3: into the grace. So maybe it was appropriate that it was, 1342 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 3: after nearly three years of detachment from workaday politics, at 1343 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 3: Obama's signal for the first time of willingness to try 1344 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 3: to modulate his party's debate, in this case to a 1345 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 3: less frantic the tenor to those who get stressed about 1346 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 3: robust primaries, he added, fully embodying this new slightly exasperated 1347 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 3: adult in the room, Row, I just have to remind 1348 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 3: you I had a very robust primary, right he started 1349 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 3: from the bottom. Yet Obama's remarks are not only aimed 1350 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 3: at donors and chatterers. He had a sterner than usual 1351 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 3: warning for the campaigns too. While over the last year 1352 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 3: plus he has been sparring and sparring in weaning on 1353 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 3: individual oh, sparing, I'm sorry, sparing and weaning on individual 1354 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 3: primary flashpoints. Here he cast himself as understanding but concerned 1355 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 3: emissary who he perceives as political reality. I mean, what 1356 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 3: he proceives as a political reality, this is still a 1357 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 3: country that is less revolutionary than it is interested in 1358 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 3: improvement on The average American doesn't think we have to 1359 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 3: completely tear down the system and remake it, and Obama's 1360 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 3: tearing Americas are conservative, not in ideology but in temperament. Voters, 1361 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 3: including Democrats, are not driven by the same views that 1362 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 3: are reflected on certain left leaning Twitter fees or the 1363 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 3: activist wing of our party. And that's the part that 1364 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 3: people shared on Twitter, right, just that sentence and what 1365 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 3: you don't know, what. 1366 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 2: The fun Twitter? 1367 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 3: He has people online he doesn't want us to have 1368 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 3: Levey's a centrist. He's might gonna be a conservative. Let 1369 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,439 Speaker 3: me finish the sentence for some of y'all that haven't 1370 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 3: heard it yet. And that's not a criticism of the 1371 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 3: activist wing. Their job is to poke in pride and 1372 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 3: text and inspire and motivate. But the candidate's job, whoever 1373 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 3: that ends up being, is to get elected. 1374 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 2: So that's the. 1375 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 3: Context of Look, these people have a role, as do 1376 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 3: the fucking people running for office have a role. The 1377 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 3: people that are pushing you to the left, they're pushing 1378 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 3: you to the left for a reason. But there's also 1379 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 3: this idea of having to win in a country that 1380 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 3: has about forty something percent that are completely willing to 1381 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 3: vote for a conservative Republican for a racist even I 1382 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 3: keep telling people when we go back to that fucking 1383 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 3: Donald Trump shit, Hillary Clinton won I think by three 1384 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 3: million votes the popular election, popular vote, and everybody goes, well, 1385 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 3: she should just be president, popular vote, get rid of 1386 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 3: elected college. 1387 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely agree with you. 1388 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,679 Speaker 4: Cool, no problem, that's not the reality. 1389 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 2: But sure, I agree with you. Here's the thing. 1390 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 3: Are we ignoring that only three million less people in 1391 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 3: the country support Donald Trump? Three million less people have 1392 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 3: the same fucking views that voted had the same fucking 1393 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 3: views as. 1394 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, or we're comfortable with his views. Do you 1395 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,759 Speaker 2: understand how many fucking people that is like this idea 1396 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 2: that you know up like it. 1397 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 3: To me, it's like saying, like, what Donald Trump is doing, 1398 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 3: we just need that for a liberal people, And I'm 1399 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 3: like that that that might work for four years or whatever. 1400 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 3: You know, if they come in and just kind of 1401 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 3: run rough shot, and then it'll immediately be overturned by 1402 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 3: all the people that didn't get energized, because it doesn't 1403 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 3: matter if you govern better for them. 1404 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 4: Barack Obama literally. 1405 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 3: Had unemployment numbers down, all this shit down for these motherfuckers. 1406 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 3: They didn't care he was black, and he was getting 1407 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 3: too much of his way, and like he actually experienced 1408 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,679 Speaker 3: that some of these candidates that don't say the perfect 1409 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 3: thing for Twitter all the time are experiencing the other 1410 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 3: side of this. Yes, sir, we want to treat them 1411 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,719 Speaker 3: like they're just getting They're like they should only listen 1412 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,799 Speaker 3: to us, and that's. 1413 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 2: The only people in the room. It's just not true. 1414 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 3: You can't win without more than just the most liberal people. 1415 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 3: You had to convince them to be the most liberal people, 1416 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 3: which can happen, or you have to kind of at 1417 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 3: least temper some of your shit to like, Okay, what 1418 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 3: are you not scared of? What are you willing to 1419 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,240 Speaker 3: at least let me try out to push you towards 1420 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 3: the thing that we need. That's all Obama Carey ended 1421 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 3: up being. It's not the end Doll's not the be all. 1422 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 3: It's not the final results. He even goes on to 1423 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 3: say he explains that he been thinking about how the 1424 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,640 Speaker 3: candidates have been talking about him on the trail. I 1425 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 3: think it is important for candidates to push past where 1426 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 3: I was able to achieve. 1427 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 2: As a president. 1428 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 3: I wouldn't run the same campaign today in this environment 1429 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 3: as I ran in two thousand and eight, in part 1430 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 3: because we made enough progress since two thousand and eight, 1431 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,799 Speaker 3: of which I am very proud that it moved what's possible. 1432 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 3: So I don't want people to just revert to what's safe. 1433 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 3: I want them to push out and try more. All right, 1434 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 3: so we got the Affordable Care Act. It was a 1435 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 3: really good starter home. As I say, I don't want 1436 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 3: people just standing pat because we still have millions of 1437 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 3: people who are uninsured. I don't take it as a 1438 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,560 Speaker 3: criticism when people say, hey, that's great, Obama did what 1439 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 3: he did, and now we want to do more. 1440 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 2: I hope. 1441 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 4: So that's the whole point. I think it is very 1442 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 4: important to all the candidates. 1443 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 3: Who are running at every level to pay some attention 1444 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 3: to where voters actually are and how they think about 1445 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 3: their lives. And I don't think we should be diluted 1446 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 3: into thinking that the resistance of certain approaches to things 1447 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 3: is simply because voters haven't heard a bolte enough proposal, 1448 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 3: and as soon as they hear a bold proposal, that's 1449 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 3: going to activate them, because you know what, it turns out. 1450 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 3: People are cautious because they don't have a margin for error, right, Like, 1451 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,600 Speaker 3: so when you are like part of the reason that 1452 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 3: people feel a little less adventurous is because they don't 1453 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 3: always have room to be This a large part of 1454 01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 3: why black people vote pragmatically Democrat is because we have 1455 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 3: the least amount of fucking room. 1456 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:52,640 Speaker 2: You know. 1457 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 3: That's why you get ninety some percent of black women 1458 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 3: forming behind whoever the number one Democrat is at the 1459 01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 3: end of the day, because it's like, I don't actually 1460 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 3: have room to do shit like. 1461 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 2: Fucking vote for Bernie. I'm a write in fucking Jill Stein. 1462 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 2: Just let the world burn. Trump will be okay. We 1463 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 2: don't actually have a room to play with You can't 1464 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 2: play them games, doll people die, and so it's like. 1465 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 3: People wanna And this is one of the reasons I 1466 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 3: can't really fuck with a lot of the internet activism shit. 1467 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 3: They want to be catered to the most. They want 1468 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 3: to control all the narrative and they want their way 1469 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 3: or the highway. But then they want no responsibility when 1470 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 3: you're like, yo, so the last election that went pretty bad, 1471 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 3: and hashit to do with me? 1472 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 2: Who do candidate's fault? Everybody with me. 1473 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 4: But you just said that if we don't do everything 1474 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 4: your way, you're not gonna vote. 1475 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 2: Yep. But if we lose, that's still on y'all. What like, 1476 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 2: how where's the where's the fucking responsibility? What's that accountability? Hey? 1477 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 3: I know I say that it didn't matter if she 1478 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 3: wanted lost Trump the same as her and uh, two 1479 01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,840 Speaker 3: sides of the same coin. And I'm voting Jill stun. 1480 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 3: That's really all y'all fault, if you think about it. 1481 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with me. I know. 1482 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 3: I use my platform to tell everybody, you know, not 1483 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 3: the vote, but it's really it's really you guys that 1484 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 3: fuck that one up. Like you can't fuck with them 1485 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 3: because they have no responsibility, no accountability. You come back 1486 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 3: to them and they just and then's to see you 1487 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 3: see when I fucking read this shit in context, did 1488 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 3: you have a problem with what he said? 1489 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 6: No? 1490 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 2: No, what he said is one hundred percent correct because 1491 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 2: most voters, even most black people, go the system is 1492 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 2: fucked up, and most black people even if you want 1493 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,920 Speaker 2: to abolish slavery, and I'm not botislavery, but it is slavery, 1494 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 2: but abolished, you know, prisons and all that shit. Even 1495 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 2: if you want to do that, you go okay. As 1496 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 2: of right now, we can't just tell the whole system 1497 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 2: down to say fuck it, Like, I just want small adjustments. 1498 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 2: I just want to be able to walk out my 1499 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 2: house and not be stopped and frisks. I just want 1500 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 2: to be able to walk out my house and the 1501 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 2: police offer not shoot me. I want the bare minimum. 1502 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not that radical. While I'm like, just 1503 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 2: fucked the whole system. Yes, I want the system to change. 1504 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 2: Do I want the system to be you know, revamped 1505 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 2: and evolved, yes, but being realistic, that's most people like. 1506 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 2: And you know what's funny, I saw this one activist 1507 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 2: being like, I noticed, when I'll be talking shit about Obama, 1508 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 2: don't get as. 1509 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 3: Much pushback now, nigga, You've been doing it for eight years. 1510 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 3: We just understand you're never going to put the man 1511 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 3: in context. And we're done fucking talking to you about it. 1512 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 3: You got it, you one, like, the only people that 1513 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 3: fuck with you now will be only the people that 1514 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 3: agree with you and retweet you. And if that's how 1515 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 3: you want it, fine, If that feels like progress to you, 1516 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 3: good for you. But there's a vast majority of fucking 1517 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 3: people that are like I wit not vast majority the 1518 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 3: ones of us who go and read instead of just 1519 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 3: taking somebody's word for it, taking like half a clip 1520 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 3: that you refuse to show the rest of it to 1521 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 3: over and over and over again. We just were here 1522 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 3: last week. The ones of us who go and read 1523 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 3: are like, oh, oh, you're doing this on purpose, and 1524 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 3: I can't talk to you the same way that. That's 1525 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 3: like Bill O'Reilly being like I notice less pushback when 1526 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 3: I say Donald Trump is the man. 1527 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're done with you, brouh. You've made your point. 1528 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 4: Like nothing's ever gonna change for you. You're gonna be 1529 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 4: saying this shit in twenty years. 1530 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 2: We're cool, And you know what, you know what I 1531 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 2: hear when they say that, I'm not gonna viral no more. 1532 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 2: You know what I hear when they say that people 1533 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 2: aren't interacted with me. I'm not getting the same outrage. 1534 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 2: You know, That's what I hear when they say that. 1535 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 2: So basically they're saying, like, oh, I need to change 1536 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 2: my tactic. I guarantee a lot of these people have 1537 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 2: another tactic eventually, or they're gonna keep pounding like it's 1538 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 2: like throwing shit at the wall. Some eventually will stick 1539 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 2: to Collins people to come my way so I can 1540 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,560 Speaker 2: get this social part of social media, because that's what 1541 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 2: I hear when people say shit like that. Nobody gonna 1542 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 2: mean no bitch, don't nobody want to argue, but you 1543 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 2: all got them. Dang. Yeah. 1544 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 3: This racism shit has it's it's weird because it really 1545 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 3: activated black people politically in some ways that I I 1546 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 3: think they need to be examined some of the long 1547 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,759 Speaker 3: term effects of having a black president. 1548 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't all good. And I don't mean that in 1549 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 2: the his policies. 1550 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean that in the words we put in his 1551 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 3: mouth versus what he says, and then the ways that 1552 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 3: we get disappointed in him for not being the activist 1553 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 3: in chief as opposed to delivering the promises that he 1554 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 3: said he had. Like there's still black people that I 1555 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 3: see all the time that bring up shit that literally 1556 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 3: he never said he would do, and also bring up 1557 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 3: shit that we did things to help, and they don't 1558 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 3: acknowledge them because it's not like there's a block in 1559 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 3: their mind of when I think black, I'm thinking Fred 1560 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,560 Speaker 3: Hampton ran for president, and it's like, nah, you know 1561 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 3: he did commute the second most sentences ever. 1562 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 4: And it's like, well that ain't for black people. Well, 1563 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 4: black people that. 1564 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 3: Got out of prisons tell their families that alone were 1565 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 3: the same people mad about overincarceration. 1566 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 2: But we don't count that. 1567 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 3: You know, we don't count when black employment numbers went up, 1568 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 3: even if they didn't go up enough or the same 1569 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 3: as white people, we. 1570 01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Still don't count that. But they went up. 1571 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 3: We like, we just we we we got away about us. 1572 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 3: And I think it's I don't know if it's contrarianism 1573 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,800 Speaker 3: or just that we're so I don't know, so hurt 1574 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:15,719 Speaker 3: and disillusion fairly so because of this country that even 1575 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 3: when we see something that's obviously not what we're saying 1576 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 3: it is, we'll still go out there on a limb. 1577 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 3: And then also real talk, and this isn't to be offensive, 1578 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,599 Speaker 3: but some people are gonna be mad. 1579 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 2: A lot of these niggas. 1580 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 3: Weren't really politically into shit until Obama didn't know. Yeah, 1581 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,800 Speaker 3: a lot of the mergers are like the Tea Party, 1582 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 3: and shit activated a lot of people. The murgers of 1583 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter activated a lot of people. And you 1584 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,759 Speaker 3: can tell they just don't have a lot of historical 1585 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 3: context or it's all theory to them, or they're coming 1586 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,560 Speaker 3: down out of the mountains of whiteness to dictate to 1587 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 3: niggas what we need to be thinking. And you can 1588 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 3: tell by their commentary on us and how, you know, 1589 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 3: even the way that a lot of people felt they 1590 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 3: needed to be a quote unquote leader in a leader 1591 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 3: position and tell us how to vote and how to think. 1592 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 2: Like even that shit, it's ridiculous, you know what I mean? 1593 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,719 Speaker 3: Like I get to tell y'all, I'm now the activist 1594 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 3: that tells black people how to vote, Like, Nigga, what 1595 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:10,439 Speaker 3: the fuck you? 1596 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 2: Ben? Who are you? 1597 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 4: Like? 1598 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 2: You just got here? Are you? Some of y'all used 1599 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 2: to like be white, you know what I mean? Like 1600 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 2: some people used to like not be bothered with this shit, 1601 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 2: Like everybody can see everyone has a digital history on 1602 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 2: the internet. Now, like just be honest and be authentic 1603 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 2: and be real and. 1604 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 3: Stop coming in trying to fucking dictate to everybody, you know, 1605 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 3: and shit like this. Man, I feel sorry because I 1606 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 3: watched the people cause you know that that bias shit. 1607 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,759 Speaker 2: I watch the people that retweet, the folks. 1608 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 3: That are taking this shit out of context because they 1609 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,560 Speaker 3: and it saddens me because I'm like, oh, you're not 1610 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 3: a person I can really respect, Like you don't read 1611 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 3: and you don't care for the truth, and you're not 1612 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,679 Speaker 3: you're not coming from a genuine place. 1613 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 4: That's sad, you know, all right? 1614 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:04,600 Speaker 2: Uh, And it's somewhat aggravating, and it's somewhat frustrating. And 1615 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 2: then a lot of them wonder back to my other 1616 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,799 Speaker 2: point why they're dismissed and why people don't take them seriously, 1617 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 2: why people don't interact with them, because you're actually come 1618 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 2: you're actually not starting from a place where we're both 1619 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 2: And it's not that everybody has to be educated about everything. 1620 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but you need to at least 1621 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 2: be able to if you don't know, listen to somebody 1622 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,120 Speaker 2: that actually knows this shit. And people just go, well, 1623 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 2: fuck it, this is the I've heard this. Here's the thing. 1624 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 4: A lot of them don't have true, genuine respect for 1625 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 4: other black people. 1626 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 3: Agreed, they like and I'm talking about people that run 1627 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 3: around with the label of Black Lives Matter on their 1628 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 3: chest and all that shit. A lot of them still 1629 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 3: see themselves as better than the other black people. 1630 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 4: And that's a big fucking problem. 1631 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 3: It's the reason that people can go online and talk 1632 01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 3: shit about Joe Biden, but them fucking poll numbers keep 1633 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 3: coming back and black people voting for him online. If 1634 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 3: online was real, Joe Biden would be lasting the fucking 1635 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 3: polls below everybody. Right, but but but, but the fact 1636 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 3: that we don't respect that the people that vote for 1637 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 3: him is why he people like him win. It's because 1638 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 3: you didn't even feel the need to change those people's minds. 1639 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 3: You just mocked and admonish those people being black people, 1640 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 3: your fellow people that you claim and respect, that aren't stupid, 1641 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 3: that vote pragmatically for some fucking reason. You don't respect 1642 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 3: them enough to go get their opinion, right, you don't 1643 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 3: respect their. 1644 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,840 Speaker 2: Opinion, ask why, and and not not to uh uh 1645 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 2: to go in a tangent. But this is one thing 1646 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 2: that really irritates me about our voting process here in America. 1647 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: And I understand this is white supremacy. Nobody ever asks 1648 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 2: niggas why they vote. You know what, we get a 1649 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 2: bunch of white people in the middle of ten bucks, 1650 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 2: fucking two goddamn nowhere, putting a fucking camera in their 1651 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,400 Speaker 2: face and ask them about bullshit. Don't nobody goddamn care about. 1652 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,639 Speaker 2: Why don't you ask the niggas in the inner city, 1653 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 2: what do you think? How do you feel? Let's hear 1654 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,240 Speaker 2: what you got to say about this shit? How was 1655 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 2: this impact on you? And you know it is your 1656 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 2: economy better? You know what? Every time I turn around 1657 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 2: and see these white fucking farmers, you know what, it's 1658 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 2: black farmers too. I don't ever see y'all talk to 1659 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,320 Speaker 2: these goddamn black farmers that are struggling and losing their 1660 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 2: farms and the companies taking their shit. I don't never 1661 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,240 Speaker 2: hear you see that. You know, I see the single 1662 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,560 Speaker 2: white mother come on with tears in her eyes some 1663 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 2: of how she lost her health care. Why don't you 1664 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,960 Speaker 2: do black women like that? Why don't you talk to 1665 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 2: a black single mama who lost her health care and 1666 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 2: can't afford shit? You know, you see the white people 1667 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,000 Speaker 2: losing that shit and not That's one thing that ritter 1668 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 2: bit of frustrates me. We don't never see nobody brown. 1669 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 2: And I think that's one thing that frustrats me about this, 1670 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 2: this this system and shit like that. And and I 1671 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 2: do care, and I do have a heart, and I 1672 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,720 Speaker 2: do understand why white people are mad about shit I do. 1673 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 2: But one thing that fucking irritates me. I don't give 1674 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 2: a fuck about these people. That's not gonna fucking matter 1675 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 2: when election time comes. They're not gonna matter. You're putting 1676 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 2: the same people in our faces over. No, I'm undivided. 1677 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm undecided, betch I don't care about your undecided white 1678 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,120 Speaker 2: ass in the middle of nowhere. Let me talk the 1679 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 2: people that because you know what, what black people normally 1680 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 2: are undecided. We fucking know who we're gonna God damn 1681 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 2: fault for it's not three days before the election, and 1682 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 2: we him and the hansbo I don't know who the 1683 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 2: fuck I'm gonnavote for it's life and death. We will die, 1684 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 2: I found the members will die. I love bulls will die. 1685 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,360 Speaker 2: They will get fucking deported. What the fuck are we 1686 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 2: talking about here? I'm sorry. That just frustrates me. 1687 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 3: No, you don't have to apologize. And the other thing, too, 1688 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 3: is for people to be shitting on Obama. Guess what 1689 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 3: Obama did that all these activists claim they want these 1690 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,799 Speaker 3: these new canas to do. He ran a young people's 1691 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 3: door to door campaign. He had the best groundwork. People 1692 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 3: still trying to do the groundwork that he did it. 1693 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 3: I can't even replicate it. All these candidates still struggling 1694 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 3: to do what he did. He got actual people on 1695 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 3: the ground fucking involved. He got young people involved, he 1696 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 3: got black people involved. He was the man with the 1697 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 3: least name recognition in his election. So you can't fucking 1698 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 3: dismiss that because it's not convenient to you anymore, because 1699 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 3: you're disillusion Now, get the fuck out of here. You're 1700 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,759 Speaker 3: gonna set yourself up again looking for another magical candidate 1701 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 3: that makes you tingle as opposed to who the fuck 1702 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 3: can beat Trump? 1703 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Who the fucking win? That's it? 1704 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the other thing too, is a lot 1705 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,240 Speaker 3: of these And this is with everyone with a platform online. 1706 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 3: It's not just activist or not. But when you are 1707 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 3: an activist, your world does become disillusion because if you're 1708 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 3: on line with most of the shit you do, if 1709 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 3: you're that kind of person, you're not out here in 1710 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 3: other people's. 1711 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Oppositions face all the time. 1712 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna end up surround about people that fucking uplift 1713 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 3: and support. 1714 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,120 Speaker 4: And retweet and all that shit. 1715 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,919 Speaker 2: You all of us have it. I'm not even an activist. 1716 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,719 Speaker 3: Most of the people that fuck with me online completely 1717 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 3: fucking agree with you, because people are like, it's like Netflix, 1718 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 3: they're picking the shows they want to watch when they 1719 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,240 Speaker 3: hit the follow button, they want to watch your show. 1720 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 2: They want to agree with your shit, they want to 1721 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:53,600 Speaker 2: support what you do. 1722 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 3: So then you start it goes your head eventually where 1723 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 3: you're like, everything I fucking say is magical. Everything I 1724 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 3: say is it truth? Everyone always agrees with me. I'm 1725 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 3: always right. There is no other point of view. Right, 1726 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 3: It's easy. And if you don't like something, you block it. 1727 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 3: You just you you disengage from it. You like you 1728 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:17,360 Speaker 3: You get that kind of shit right. Meanwhile, in real 1729 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 3: fucking life, the way that it seems to have been 1730 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 3: working for fucking years is the investment you put in 1731 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 3: candidates is the fucking shit you get out. You can't really, 1732 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 3: you can't get leveraged with nothing, nothing at stake, and 1733 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 3: it's easier online to put nothing at steak and ask 1734 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 3: for all the leverage. It's just, you know, it's just 1735 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 3: it's just the way that the system. 1736 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 2: Is set up. 1737 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 3: And I think we're learning a lot in a very 1738 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 3: short period of time about the reaches of online The 1739 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 3: fact that black face bots have been organized around the election, 1740 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 3: around NFL discussions around Kaepernick. 1741 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 4: It should be bothering people, right. 1742 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,599 Speaker 2: The fact that many of y'all. 1743 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,759 Speaker 3: Quote unquote were fucking influenced by these fucking fake arguments 1744 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,839 Speaker 3: from robots. The fact that they found fake activist accounts 1745 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,719 Speaker 3: in the aftermath of twenty sixteen and said the Black 1746 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 3: Lives Matter for this, and that was not was fucking 1747 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 3: made out of Russia. It was ran by a white 1748 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 3: guy in Ohio. Like the fact that people haven't stopped 1749 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,080 Speaker 3: and went, hmm, I should stop rushing in head headlong 1750 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 3: when I see something that keeps retweeting things I agree 1751 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,640 Speaker 3: with and just going, well, that's on the up and up, Like, 1752 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 3: maybe considerate not everything's gonna go your way. Some shit 1753 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 3: is gonna be inconvenient, you know, Like I respect and 1754 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 3: honestly trust, I trust and respect candidates and policies and 1755 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,599 Speaker 3: people who I don't always agree with, cause that's real. 1756 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 3: One hundred percent agreement ain't real. 1757 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:46,240 Speaker 2: You know. 1758 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 3: Some of the biggest like quote unquote betrayals of my 1759 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 3: adult life have come from people that approached me with I. 1760 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 4: Agree with everything you the fucking greatest. Ah, it's like 1761 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 4: a dick today. 1762 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 2: And then by the end you're like, this motherfucker hates me, right, 1763 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,120 Speaker 2: because it's not real that everyone agrees on everything. 1764 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I don't got to troll you. They don't 1765 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,639 Speaker 3: have to like disrespect you or disagree on everything either. 1766 01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,200 Speaker 3: They don't need a contrarian friend. Fuck you too, But nigga, like, 1767 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 3: it's okay to be like, these are a list of 1768 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 3: fucking perminent issues in the world where you're trying to 1769 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 3: govern how four hundred million people wherever the fuck is 1770 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,200 Speaker 3: in America, there's probably gonna be some shit on your 1771 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,639 Speaker 3: list of every issue affecting every American that I go, well, 1772 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 3: I wish you would be a little bit more to 1773 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 3: the left on that. 1774 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 2: I think you should be a little more conservative on 1775 01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 2: that one. 1776 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 3: I wish because I, as an individual, have my own 1777 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 3: life experience and I want different things, and I don't expect. 1778 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 2: The rest of the world to fucking get it. Not 1779 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,720 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna agree with me. I can't. 1780 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 3: Not even your own fucking family agrees on everything. And 1781 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 3: so at the end of the day, the reality is 1782 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 3: the people outside of the fucking matrix of Twitter and 1783 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 3: shit have to govern for everybody, and there has to 1784 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 3: be some difference paid to everybody, whether you like it 1785 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 3: or not, because when you don't, you end up with 1786 01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 3: the shit we got. Now when you this is what 1787 01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,479 Speaker 3: it looked like when somebody goes fuck half the country 1788 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 3: or whatever. 1789 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 2: Come on, is that it never looks It's never gonna 1790 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 2: look that way the other way, you know, even the 1791 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 2: shit that people think, well, this is. 1792 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 3: What I want from a left leaning government. White people 1793 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,799 Speaker 3: are gonna get that too. As long as there's racial 1794 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,680 Speaker 3: privilege in America, white people will come out better under 1795 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:23,680 Speaker 3: liberal candidates too. 1796 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,799 Speaker 2: Like it's we're gonna get. 1797 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 4: Fucked one way or the other. You know, I'm just 1798 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,720 Speaker 4: trying not to get fucked as hard. 1799 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 2: Right, it's like, oh this, you know, the you know 1800 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,840 Speaker 2: you might have. I'm just throwing the number out there. 1801 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,879 Speaker 2: Instead of quote unquote thirty percent of brown people without insurance, 1802 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 2: now we have five percent of ten percent, which means 1803 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,160 Speaker 2: we still have a percentage of people without it. But 1804 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 2: at least a fucking number ring is high. That's all 1805 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 2: it is for us. We need up the numbers to 1806 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 2: go down. 1807 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,360 Speaker 3: Listen, care doesn't matter how it's paid for. We need 1808 01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent free health care today, tomorrow, whatever. 1809 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 2: Right, that's it. You look you let them tell the story. 1810 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 3: Yes, I just see a bunch of people said themselves 1811 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 3: up to be exactly what happened under Obama, where they 1812 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 3: say because I think it's actually kind of worse what 1813 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,280 Speaker 3: candidates are doing now, where they're promising shit and it's like, 1814 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,560 Speaker 3: not one thousand percent sure that math adds up, but 1815 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,600 Speaker 3: I do like the idea of the things you're proposing. 1816 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 3: And then when they get in office and it's a 1817 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,679 Speaker 3: little tougher than they said, will we get twenty ten? 1818 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,160 Speaker 3: Because what people forget about Obama's twenty ten when people 1819 01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 3: went wasn't as easy. 1820 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 4: As we thought it would be, and you got it right, 1821 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 4: and they just like, I ain't voting no more. 1822 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 2: I ain't vote for midterm elections. I'm not voting your 1823 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 2: governors and your senators back in office. I'm not voting 1824 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 2: your congressman. 1825 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 3: And the electorate holds no responsibility in that. My voter 1826 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 3: holds no responsibility in that people that voted in two 1827 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 3: thousand and eight, not twenty ten. Hey, that's everybody else's fault, 1828 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 3: not mine, right, Like, it's I don't know, I can't 1829 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,800 Speaker 3: fuck with these niggas anyway. What else happened you matter 1830 01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 3: of fact, let's keep it going. 1831 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 2: That might be a long time. 1832 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 3: Boxing blackface the rise of fake black people on social 1833 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 3: media promoting political agendas. If you follow Donald Trump's Twitter feeds, 1834 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,680 Speaker 3: you may have noticed several prominent accounts that appear to 1835 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 3: be profiles along in the black people high up on 1836 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 3: his Twitter feed of responses. 1837 01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:18,160 Speaker 2: Some of these accounts have thousands thousands of followers. Others 1838 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 2: even have a blue. 1839 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 3: Check mark next to their account names, Yet exactly who 1840 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,040 Speaker 3: is behind these accounts is ambig ones. The rids of 1841 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,799 Speaker 3: boxing the guys of black people on social media remains 1842 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 3: a wordsome issue heading into the twenty twenty elections, and so. 1843 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,160 Speaker 2: Like, like I said, I I gotta say this. I 1844 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:42,320 Speaker 2: personally think the way we do our system here and 1845 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 2: I never realized it till now, it's too fucking long. 1846 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 2: It's two goddamn long. It's too long. Two years to 1847 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 2: three years is too fucking long. Get this. I don't 1848 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,920 Speaker 2: mind you doing this shit, but let's shorten this period 1849 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,439 Speaker 2: of time because before you could do this, but with 1850 01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,360 Speaker 2: social media, let's cut this shit down. Let's let's wrap 1851 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 2: it up. We shouldn't be doing this for five years 1852 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 2: and then we go Okay, now let's vote after we 1853 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,160 Speaker 2: have worn the populace out and they've been fighting and 1854 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,799 Speaker 2: falling out with each other. But that's just my opinion, 1855 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 2: and shit like that frustrates me. 1856 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would Obama on this. I actually don't care 1857 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 3: about this part. Like whatever the primary period is. If 1858 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 3: y'all want to run for two years, cool, cool, cool. 1859 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,240 Speaker 3: I want the best person to win. If it takes 1860 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,280 Speaker 3: two years to find the best person, I'm down with that. 1861 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to rush into nothing. Yeah, 1862 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 3: matter of fact, I'm definitely don't want to rush into 1863 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,880 Speaker 3: picking the next person to be president of the United States. 1864 01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:36,280 Speaker 2: I would definitely like to see them vett it. What 1865 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 2: it is is that these arguments online are sustainable, okay, 1866 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 2: and I think that that's what wears me out while 1867 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm like fuck it, like like this is too much. 1868 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not sustainable. 1869 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 3: If y'all have noticed, I haven't really talked about it 1870 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,920 Speaker 3: on the show or online about individual candidates as much 1871 01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 3: versus any of them, because even when I criticize one, 1872 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,120 Speaker 3: I always come back to the same thing at the 1873 01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 3: end of every single time. 1874 01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 4: I would vote for them if they win. 1875 01:30:59,479 --> 01:30:59,839 Speaker 2: Agreed. 1876 01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,839 Speaker 3: There's like two or three of them that I wouldn't 1877 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 3: vote for, and you know what I do. I don't 1878 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,760 Speaker 3: talk about it on this show because fuck them. But 1879 01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,280 Speaker 3: the ones ever, but pretty much even the ones that 1880 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, god damn, this nigga is wow, I still 1881 01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,439 Speaker 3: come to the end where I'm like, I mean, it's 1882 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 3: him versus Trump, Uh, you got it. 1883 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,759 Speaker 4: If it's human versus Pins, if it's him versus any Republican, 1884 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:19,760 Speaker 4: you got it. Brother, Good work, good luck. 1885 01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1886 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 3: Amy close Sean hurts you real meaning to people behind 1887 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,120 Speaker 3: closed doors, that's terrible, But I absolutely vote for you. 1888 01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,639 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's mean the people in front and behind closed 1889 01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 3: doors right all around, you know, Like, I don't know 1890 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 3: what to tell you. 1891 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:32,080 Speaker 4: Man. 1892 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,759 Speaker 2: If y'all can't get it, then uh cool. 1893 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,679 Speaker 3: But what happens is that we're rewarded for argument online 1894 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 3: right the dopamine fix we get from Let me make 1895 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 3: a twelve point thread about cop Maler Harris. 1896 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,680 Speaker 2: And most people not gonna read them. 1897 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 3: But even if they do read it or retweet it though, 1898 01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,439 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, the point is you get double mean 1899 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,799 Speaker 3: hits agreed, like, because a lot of people do retweet 1900 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 3: those things. 1901 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,360 Speaker 2: Because what they are not retweet Most people don't read 1902 01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 2: like they're not. Oh yeah yeah absolutely, but still most 1903 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 2: of them. It's the interaction. The interaction is the retweet. Okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 1904 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 2: whether you read it or not. I'm my how it 1905 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 2: comes from that number going up. Okay, I'm with you 1906 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 2: on that one. I was like, y'all doing this and 1907 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,679 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, I'm looking like I finally 1908 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,760 Speaker 2: saw maybe two three weeks ago. 1909 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,880 Speaker 3: I didn't share it, but I finally saw somebody that 1910 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,880 Speaker 3: actually went and broke down where a lot of the 1911 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris cop Molla shit had come from a white woman. 1912 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 3: That's a Bernie supporter who started all that shit, and 1913 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 3: she she like worked for the I forget what what 1914 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,400 Speaker 3: paper it was that did the first like hit piece 1915 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:36,720 Speaker 3: on her. 1916 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 2: She worked for that. And it was like, yeah, so 1917 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,200 Speaker 2: a lot of black people have been parading that talk 1918 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 2: from that white woman. 1919 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,760 Speaker 3: You know, made a whole life out of it, made 1920 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,320 Speaker 3: a whole podcast, whole Twitter fees, everything is about this 1921 01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:51,160 Speaker 3: woman being a cop. 1922 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:52,439 Speaker 2: And you know who else is on there? 1923 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,080 Speaker 3: Bunch of fake black face ass niggas too, a bunch 1924 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:59,320 Speaker 3: of bots like the ship online is not a real similar, 1925 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,799 Speaker 3: so what's happening in real life necessarily takes fors instance, 1926 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,080 Speaker 3: twittercount Ryan Hill in my aka Ryan Hill. This account 1927 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,639 Speaker 3: has a blue check mark, which supposedly means was vetted 1928 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 3: by Twitter and confirmed to be an actual person. Yet 1929 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,840 Speaker 3: a Google or being searched for Ryan Hill Michigan only 1930 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 3: yields a research of a white male lawyer in Michigan 1931 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 3: and nothing about a young black man in the Michigan area, 1932 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 3: which is what his avatar depicts. 1933 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 4: I reached out to Ryan Hill account on Twitter. 1934 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 3: I asked him about it, and I asked him about 1935 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,839 Speaker 3: doing an interview and provided some background information. The conversation 1936 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 3: turned bizarre, as you can see from the below screenshot. 1937 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:37,640 Speaker 3: These remarks to my queries, yeah, some good luck with that. 1938 01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,479 Speaker 3: No journalism, at least in my experience, is typically predict 1939 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 3: predicated a legitimate sourcing and actual facts, not speciist. And 1940 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 3: that is a generous characterization roomor and fantasy other than 1941 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,200 Speaker 3: a film. Unequivocally denial of your garbage premise, I have 1942 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,479 Speaker 3: no further comment, lady, Please get a life and stop 1943 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 3: spreading unfounded nonsense about me. 1944 01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,400 Speaker 2: One I am real, Two I am black. 1945 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 3: Fifty percent SSA per my twenty three at me, I 1946 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 3: guess South African or something three. I'm not interested in 1947 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 3: granting you an interview for I get quite a few 1948 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,200 Speaker 3: death threats, and I am not interested in making it 1949 01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,720 Speaker 3: easier making it easier for people to ask me to 1950 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 3: attack me slash from FAM. I also contacted Twitter and 1951 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 3: ask a company aby to sign a blue check mark 1952 01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:26,120 Speaker 3: account to a journalist could not to an account, and 1953 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,240 Speaker 3: a journalist could not find much information about I was 1954 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,040 Speaker 3: told I would receive an answer, and I'm still waiting. 1955 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,640 Speaker 3: Needless to say, the account raised some suspicion about authenticity. 1956 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,320 Speaker 3: If it is indeed some SoC pugget account posting as 1957 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 3: a black person to influence politics, it wouldn't be the 1958 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 3: first time some vested interests engaged in blackface percept. The 1959 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 3: social media users have even unearthed fake black accounts using 1960 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,760 Speaker 3: Google's reverse image search feature. One such Twitter account at 1961 01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 3: mike four seven four seven eight one was proven. 1962 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,680 Speaker 2: The number didn't give it away. It was proven to 1963 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,479 Speaker 2: be a scout. You did to have an egg. 1964 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 3: No, it was a black person's face. That's why they 1965 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 3: all these accounts have black people's face. 1966 01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my joke is like all them numbers, did 1967 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:07,400 Speaker 2: you click on it? 1968 01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 3: It was an egg too, all right, but yeah, it 1969 01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,920 Speaker 3: turned out to be a stock image of as the 1970 01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:13,799 Speaker 3: account's avatar. 1971 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,639 Speaker 4: A stock image. They're not even they're just googling black person. 1972 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,120 Speaker 2: Ha ha. They just saying copy, all right, that's the 1973 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,799 Speaker 2: one I'll take paste. Seventy six Best husband Material Images 1974 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. Oh, I guess that a dainty's smart 1975 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:28,840 Speaker 2: enough to go to page too. They picking them on 1976 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 2: the first page. One hundred and. 1977 01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 3: Twenty nine Best Cool Beer Images twenty nineteen. Black Men, 1978 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 3: Black Men, Black Boys, seven hundred and ninety two Best 1979 01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,479 Speaker 3: Gorgeous Men Images of twenty nineteen five men gorgeous black 1980 01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,080 Speaker 3: I love how they wanted to make sure it's an 1981 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:41,960 Speaker 3: attractive black man. 1982 01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 4: They're like, that's how we're gonna get the black women vote, y'all. 1983 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna get gotta make them sexy first, trap them 1984 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,760 Speaker 2: in the maga real quick, Gotta make gotta get them 1985 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 2: Instagram model ready. 1986 01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,840 Speaker 3: Sharene Mitchell is the founder of Digital Sisters and Stop 1987 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,719 Speaker 3: Online Violence against Women. As She's done in depth research 1988 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,799 Speaker 3: about the use of imposs black accounts pushing political agendas 1989 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,880 Speaker 3: across social media. Mitchell says the activity behind these fake 1990 01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 3: accounts boils down to getting people not to vote for Democrats. 1991 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,080 Speaker 3: She points out that the social media is an ultimate 1992 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 3: affordable platform for white supremacists. This is the same place 1993 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,360 Speaker 3: that y'all want Barack Obama to fucking praise and worship. 1994 01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,680 Speaker 2: Get the fuck out here, y'all be on Twyter talking 1995 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,519 Speaker 2: about how's garbage and then when he's like, yeah, it's 1996 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:24,760 Speaker 2: a little bit fucked up, man. 1997 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,720 Speaker 3: Not everybody on there's who they say they are, and 1998 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 3: not everything is a real reflection in real life. Some 1999 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,479 Speaker 3: of these people that are pushing some of this shit 2000 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:33,439 Speaker 3: are not on the oven. 2001 01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:37,040 Speaker 2: Note. Wow, he just hates activism and black people and shit, 2002 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,040 Speaker 2: you know what a coon? I tell you, probably don't 2003 01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,599 Speaker 2: won't Kaepernick to get a job if you ask me, haha. 2004 01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,759 Speaker 2: As one of the authors of Stop Online Violence Against 2005 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,880 Speaker 2: Women's report on targeted Black voter suppression on social media, 2006 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,679 Speaker 2: Mitchell and her team reported on the Russian Internet Research 2007 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 2: Agencies purposeful political ad targeting to Black Americans. The thirty 2008 01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 2: five hundred ads on Facebook by the Russian Internet Research 2009 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,599 Speaker 2: Agency centered largely on Black American culture over all other 2010 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 2: identity and race based narratives, while the race based focused 2011 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,200 Speaker 2: on the Russian purchase, as has been acknowledged in some 2012 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,519 Speaker 2: reporting in previous studies, that has not been pointed out 2013 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 2: in the media that the theme of black identity and 2014 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 2: culture were the focus of the majority of the ass 2015 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,679 Speaker 2: with the intent to engage in voter suppression of black voters. 2016 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,519 Speaker 2: And I'm I'm gonna go up to the line and stop. 2017 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 3: But there are niggas who came at me, your boy, 2018 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,679 Speaker 3: for being like this is fake. Don't listen to people 2019 01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,680 Speaker 3: to tell you, as a black person is not to 2020 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 3: vote and it's okay to put your feelings about it first. 2021 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:41,840 Speaker 3: Don't listen to them. They are sabotaging us. Those motherfuckers. 2022 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 3: Some of them came from my neck. Nigga, you were 2023 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,160 Speaker 3: lad around by Russian bots. Don't talk to me about 2024 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 3: shit in no election, not twenty nineteen, not beyond. 2025 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,080 Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck who you vote for from now on. 2026 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 2: How the fuck you get fooled by some Russians? And 2027 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,439 Speaker 2: I'm the one that's wrong. 2028 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,959 Speaker 4: I shouldn't be talking about on my platform. 2029 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,519 Speaker 2: Are you crazy? Which one of us was stupid enough 2030 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:10,200 Speaker 2: to get failed by some fucking robots. What that's crazy 2031 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 2: to me? Like, now you have the. 2032 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:17,840 Speaker 3: Fucking research during by a black woman to tell you 2033 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 3: what I fucking told you. 2034 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,320 Speaker 2: When I was looking at fucking dust comrades telling us 2035 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,160 Speaker 2: not to vote, I was like, that shit is ridiculous. 2036 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,120 Speaker 3: Wow, So you making you shaming black people in the voting. 2037 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, These people aren't real black people. 2038 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,800 Speaker 2: Right because no black person would talk like that, and 2039 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,599 Speaker 2: your dumb ass is falling for it, hook line and sinker. 2040 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:42,280 Speaker 2: God damn motherfuckers. Man. Sorry, I'm still mad about that shit. 2041 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,000 Speaker 2: And to see these people crawling back in twenty nineteen, 2042 01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,760 Speaker 2: just in time to get involved in twenty twenty, I 2043 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,760 Speaker 2: have to being quiet for years. Man. 2044 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 3: Absolutely, fuck you from the bottom of my soul. That 2045 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:58,280 Speaker 3: is ridiculous. No apologies, No I was complicit in this. 2046 01:38:58,520 --> 01:38:58,720 Speaker 2: Ah. 2047 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,360 Speaker 3: You know what now it's God, guys, this time around's 2048 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,559 Speaker 3: gonna be different. How loosey with the football, how it's 2049 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,120 Speaker 3: gonna be different. 2050 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 2: You fell for the shit, not the. 2051 01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,160 Speaker 3: Rest of the black people that got their ass out 2052 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:12,080 Speaker 3: and voted anybody you convinced to stay home. You are 2053 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,960 Speaker 3: responsible for that shit, the same way I feel about 2054 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:16,840 Speaker 3: white people that say it's okay to stay out. 2055 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,200 Speaker 2: It's don't get you. Don't get a pass for being 2056 01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 2: black and doing that. It's still stupid. It's just you 2057 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:22,560 Speaker 2: did it. 2058 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 3: You listened to the white people that told you it 2059 01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 3: was okay to say that shit. If you can vote, 2060 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,639 Speaker 3: you should vote. If you can, if you black, Yes, 2061 01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,559 Speaker 3: people did die for you to vote, and there's nothing 2062 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,800 Speaker 3: to be ashamed about. I don't feel ashame about that. 2063 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 3: If you feel some shame about it, examine yourself. Why 2064 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,080 Speaker 3: you so ashamed that somebody died for your right to vote. 2065 01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 3: I feel empowered by that. I love it, Love the smell. 2066 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:49,960 Speaker 2: Of a good library on Tuesday. Fuck that shit. 2067 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,080 Speaker 3: Can't wait to hop up in some local school and 2068 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 3: to pull the leaver first thing in the morning. Be 2069 01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 3: mad when them late fuck out of here. 2070 01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 2: We'll be on time next time. On side we try. 2071 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,080 Speaker 2: I ain't for number one and number two ridiculous people, 2072 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:05,800 Speaker 2: all right. Yeah. 2073 01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,639 Speaker 3: The report found that Russian actors specifically manipulated topics such 2074 01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,320 Speaker 3: as Hillary Clinton's super predator comment. 2075 01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that shit did not make no sense. 2076 01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:20,800 Speaker 3: Your favorite activists still on titter talking and shit an 2077 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,559 Speaker 3: issue related to race and police and immigration and guns. 2078 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 3: You can read the entire report here. Much of the 2079 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,719 Speaker 3: controversy of a fake black social media accounts also surrounds 2080 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:34,639 Speaker 3: them Ady Oss Movement American Descendants a Slavery ATS activists 2081 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,639 Speaker 3: claim the people that told y'all not to see Hillary 2082 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 3: and your other favorite activists fail for that shit to 2083 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,639 Speaker 3: hook line a sinker niggas weren't. 2084 01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 2: Being led by Russian bots, and I can't talk about it. 2085 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking about it. The fuck is wrong with these people? 2086 01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 2: Stop telling me what to do? 2087 01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 3: You getting told what to do about fucking the Soviet 2088 01:40:55,240 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 3: Union and shit. As activists claim that African American votership 2089 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:05,040 Speaker 3: vote for politicians and support policies beneficial and exclusive to 2090 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:10,120 Speaker 3: African American communities, such as reparations. Meanwhile, that's your hotel 2091 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,479 Speaker 3: kings and shit over there, your leaders being led by 2092 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:17,360 Speaker 3: Russian bots. Right, I'm sure they have all of our 2093 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:18,200 Speaker 3: best interests. 2094 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,360 Speaker 2: In mine over in Russia. They're just trying to help 2095 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:19,680 Speaker 2: us out. 2096 01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:24,800 Speaker 3: BuzzFeed reported that social media ADOS activist accounts are often 2097 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,839 Speaker 3: the cues of being bots in Russian trolls. 2098 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,000 Speaker 2: Some Twitter users still. 2099 01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 3: Got the authenticity of some of the accounts, tweeting about 2100 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,280 Speaker 3: the movement. One user account question that she had to 2101 01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:38,200 Speaker 3: mute the ados and posted a screenshot of an account 2102 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:39,360 Speaker 3: created in two thousand and nine. 2103 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 2: This might be important to use. 2104 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 3: A said, I saw one in the other day that 2105 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,439 Speaker 3: the new bot movement is old accounts that have been dormant. 2106 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 2: This account was creating in O nine but just started 2107 01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:52,479 Speaker 2: tweeting literally fifteen minutes ago. What Russia being on it. 2108 01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:58,639 Speaker 3: Certainly there are concerted efforts to splinter the powerful black 2109 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:00,599 Speaker 3: voting block and to keep Black people from voting. It's 2110 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,560 Speaker 3: important that Black people stay vigilant over whose information to 2111 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 3: trust on social media or Professor offered a few tips 2112 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,679 Speaker 3: on NPR. Beware of accounts that regularly use stereotypical quote 2113 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:11,719 Speaker 3: unquote black language. 2114 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 4: These accounts typically use language they think black people use. 2115 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,639 Speaker 3: To check the number tweets and followers on their account, 2116 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 3: to check how long ago in the Town was created, 2117 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 3: and check the type of tweets opposed. 2118 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:21,719 Speaker 2: The account has on the timeline. 2119 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,040 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, these niggas not gonna do that, 2120 01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,479 Speaker 3: because if you agree with the three the three words 2121 01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,599 Speaker 3: out of the first sentence of the fucking tweet you're retweeting, 2122 01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,000 Speaker 3: and you're not looking back. Yeah, I've seen Box star 2123 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,120 Speaker 3: entire fucking conflicts and they get involved now on anything 2124 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 3: involving Race Kaepernick, Harriet movie. 2125 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:39,800 Speaker 2: And it's funny. 2126 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,560 Speaker 3: Because when you see people that get a pass that 2127 01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 3: slide through, it's always like to me as a black person, 2128 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,960 Speaker 3: always noticed yesterday, I've seen the video daya Colujah and 2129 01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:52,920 Speaker 3: the dude that plays Franklin on Snowfall dapping each other up, 2130 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 3: and I. 2131 01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,559 Speaker 2: Said, where's Ados? That was adorable? It's beautiful. 2132 01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,920 Speaker 3: It was beautiful, But what was ados? Ain't they supposed 2133 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,720 Speaker 3: to be mad? Look at them taking them black roles. Now, 2134 01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,639 Speaker 3: you don't give a fuck about that ship dog because 2135 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:07,479 Speaker 3: it's not real idiots, man, these niggas. 2136 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody said ados. That don't sound like it sound 2137 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,000 Speaker 2: like nothing cool to black people. Make up anyway, y'all 2138 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,800 Speaker 2: know our ours would be a lot cooler than that. 2139 01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,479 Speaker 2: Ad os, Right, you actually pronouncing the letter. Y'all know 2140 01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,479 Speaker 2: we don't pronounce it, but let us we always take. 2141 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,439 Speaker 4: Short cuts, right, we at least be calling it a 2142 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:22,400 Speaker 4: or some shit. 2143 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,559 Speaker 2: Come on, ads aos. 2144 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:27,479 Speaker 3: All right, we gotta go the next session. Give me 2145 01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,840 Speaker 3: a second, all right, We're in the next session. 2146 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, this is kind of an angry episode, but all 2147 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,880 Speaker 2: this shit kind of pissed me off. The Kaepernick shit 2148 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 2: is just annoying because. 2149 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,080 Speaker 3: It was a chance where it could have been something 2150 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,360 Speaker 3: and it ended up basically being nothing, and that just 2151 01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,000 Speaker 3: sucks for everybody involved because now everybody gotta be a coon. 2152 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 3: The Obama shit is just that's annoying because we literally 2153 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 3: did this last week, like and I see that this 2154 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:56,720 Speaker 3: is gonna be. 2155 01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 4: A thing for all these something wokes TM to do 2156 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:02,880 Speaker 4: this shit every time it comes up. 2157 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,679 Speaker 3: It's gonna and then it spreads throughout the black community, 2158 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 3: and you're gonna have the online digital niggas on a 2159 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,880 Speaker 3: podcast taking it out of context, and it's gonna it's 2160 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,200 Speaker 3: all that shit all over again. And if you fucking 2161 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 3: bring up the context of it, then all of a sudden, 2162 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:18,240 Speaker 3: you some type of cone. 2163 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,040 Speaker 2: You you know, you hate black for you the problem? 2164 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:22,280 Speaker 2: You just love Obama? 2165 01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 3: You know it's everything except you can read a fucking 2166 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 3: sentence or I can read a whole article. 2167 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,720 Speaker 2: Oh well, you must just love Obama. No, I just 2168 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 2: love reading the whole article. You know, Like how you 2169 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,040 Speaker 2: supposed to do? You know? 2170 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,839 Speaker 3: Clip they really be looking like they got caught cheating 2171 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,800 Speaker 3: like like on love and hip hop when it's like 2172 01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:43,360 Speaker 3: like when it's like so the first part of that 2173 01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:47,000 Speaker 3: quote that you put out that says, you know, America 2174 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 3: is not as liberal as the most left leaned Twitter account. 2175 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,800 Speaker 2: Not that that was wrong, but you know he did 2176 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,600 Speaker 2: say more after that. Wow, you just gonna read the 2177 01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 2: whole the whole quote. Wow, right in front of myself. Yes, Wow, Wow, Ma, 2178 01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,600 Speaker 2: for real, you're gonna just play me like that. 2179 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,439 Speaker 3: You don't believe me when I just give you say 2180 01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,680 Speaker 3: Obama only said five words and those are the only 2181 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:10,360 Speaker 3: ones important. 2182 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:11,960 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. 2183 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 3: I didn't think you would actually look through my phone, 2184 01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,720 Speaker 3: like nigga, you you tweeting out the same article that 2185 01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,360 Speaker 3: I could just go to the source and see it. God, 2186 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 3: I hate you anyway. Definitely not doing with black people today. 2187 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:33,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, everybody got a hundred Yeah. Might do white 2188 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,680 Speaker 2: people news. I don't know, because I'm trying to think 2189 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:37,040 Speaker 2: if I have. 2190 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,920 Speaker 3: I might not have got any white people news songs, okay, 2191 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 3: And that might be a problem because I think I 2192 01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,639 Speaker 3: fell behind on collecting them, and then, uh, the only 2193 01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:51,360 Speaker 3: ones left would be the uh, you know, the old 2194 01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,559 Speaker 3: school white people news once and I don't want. 2195 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:59,920 Speaker 2: To go back, well, chat that ghetto. Yeah, well maybe 2196 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:00,599 Speaker 2: this one. 2197 01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, okay, we try we try this one. 2198 01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:11,599 Speaker 3: All right, it's just some white people news everybody and hopefully, 2199 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,719 Speaker 3: uh it's good. And you know what else sucks about context. 2200 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad somebody brought this up the chat. 2201 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,240 Speaker 2: But you don't get to go off you know what 2202 01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,439 Speaker 2: I mean, You don't don't get that high. 2203 01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,439 Speaker 3: You don't really get to go off with because most 2204 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 3: of the time, in context, what people have to say 2205 01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:31,240 Speaker 3: is not inflammatory one way or the other. You know, 2206 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:35,519 Speaker 3: I was talking, I was talking to somebody today about 2207 01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,719 Speaker 3: just like I said, you know, when we became friends, 2208 01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,720 Speaker 3: it was like when we disagreed and I said, it 2209 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,360 Speaker 3: was a public disagreement, but neither one of us like 2210 01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:46,120 Speaker 3: flexed on the other, called each other out of name, 2211 01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,720 Speaker 3: neither one of us played victim. We disagreed and we 2212 01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,760 Speaker 3: moved on like friends. We made jokes about the ship 2213 01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:58,120 Speaker 3: not too long afterwards, and even when we revisited the conversation, 2214 01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:02,320 Speaker 3: like we like it closer and closer to because at 2215 01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:03,920 Speaker 3: the end of the day, neither one of us is 2216 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,559 Speaker 3: fucking insane and became a new person in the middle 2217 01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,519 Speaker 3: of the argument that suddenly just hated the other person. 2218 01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,519 Speaker 3: That's not how real life is supposed to work. It's 2219 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,639 Speaker 3: easier to do that on the internet because we don't 2220 01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,479 Speaker 3: really know each other. You can just kind of fucking 2221 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,000 Speaker 3: do that. Like you think you're talking to somebody that's 2222 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:20,160 Speaker 3: cool with you, and the next thing you know, it's 2223 01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:21,800 Speaker 3: like I never liked your ass anywhere. It's like, whoah, 2224 01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,919 Speaker 3: what the fuck just happened? Well, that's kind of the difference, 2225 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,760 Speaker 3: and I think we've lost that. And there's a way 2226 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,720 Speaker 3: to engage and disagree with somebody and don't have to 2227 01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:32,479 Speaker 3: turn them into a. 2228 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 4: Caricature of themselves. 2229 01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,960 Speaker 3: Right, you can disagree with Barack Obama and not turn 2230 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,160 Speaker 3: him into you know, he's really just a conservative in 2231 01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 3: blackface and shit, like, look, you don't have to be 2232 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:44,559 Speaker 3: that mombastic asshole. 2233 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:45,400 Speaker 2: You know. 2234 01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:47,360 Speaker 4: You can also be like, I think what she would 2235 01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:48,280 Speaker 4: have pushed further on this? 2236 01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,320 Speaker 3: And you know when he says I should have pushed 2237 01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:53,719 Speaker 3: further on this, or I hope the next person pushes 2238 01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:54,479 Speaker 3: further than I did. 2239 01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 4: What are we even mad about? 2240 01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:57,760 Speaker 2: Now? 2241 01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,840 Speaker 3: He's saying what you're doing is good and he likes it, 2242 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 3: and there's a place for it. Why are you why 2243 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:04,840 Speaker 3: you gotta make me mad at him? 2244 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,880 Speaker 2: Because you mad? Funk out of here. All right, let's 2245 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,439 Speaker 2: get to the white people news so I can calm down. Uh, 2246 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't think I know the white version of the song. 2247 01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:29,519 Speaker 4: First of all, this nigga's playing instrument, every instrument. 2248 01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,200 Speaker 3: He got four cameras on the instruments at the different 2249 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 3: at the same time. I'm guessing he had to play 2250 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,559 Speaker 3: one through play, the other one through play, and then 2251 01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 3: it made this composition by itself. 2252 01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:44,560 Speaker 2: Can he playing the drums, the piano, the bass and 2253 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,800 Speaker 2: the guitar. Goddamn well he playing the guitar. You see 2254 01:48:47,840 --> 01:49:02,679 Speaker 2: the bass in the background. Okay, all right, Sorry, used 2255 01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 2: to spend. 2256 01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 5: My nights out in the bar room. Luca was the 2257 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:22,400 Speaker 5: only love I'm known. But you rescued me from reaching 2258 01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:30,519 Speaker 5: for the bottom and brodie back from being far to 2259 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:44,200 Speaker 5: go your smooth, it's jennessy, whiskey, poor, you're a sweet. 2260 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:57,760 Speaker 7: It's fall very wild, your resport in the glass of ready. 2261 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:05,440 Speaker 5: In hooeyeye, I stayed stove, oh your love, all the time. 2262 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm looking for love, and. 2263 01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:21,240 Speaker 5: All the sable placing found the bottom of the bottles 2264 01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:22,240 Speaker 5: of Waiste drive. 2265 01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,000 Speaker 2: When you bought out to love. 2266 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,000 Speaker 5: I didn't wasted. 2267 01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:34,439 Speaker 2: Use. 2268 01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,840 Speaker 5: That's nothing nothing like your love to. 2269 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:55,880 Speaker 2: Give me ham okays. 2270 01:50:51,720 --> 01:51:04,679 Speaker 8: Current Sweet, it's full baby. Why your wrist in glass 2271 01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:09,640 Speaker 8: ready in the yard stage. 2272 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,680 Speaker 5: Stone on your love. 2273 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:17,439 Speaker 2: All yours. 2274 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:30,720 Speaker 5: It's Tennessee wizky, Oh you're miss sweet. It's roll up everyone. 2275 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,280 Speaker 2: That was a good one. I don't even know what 2276 01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,160 Speaker 2: the original soul sound like. I don't even know if 2277 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,680 Speaker 2: I want to go ahead? Uh the white version by 2278 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,400 Speaker 2: Chris Stapleton, Yeah, who was that? I don't know these 2279 01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:43,880 Speaker 2: white people? 2280 01:51:43,960 --> 01:52:06,920 Speaker 4: Can you spell? 2281 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm not barb. 2282 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:18,240 Speaker 1: I know. 2283 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,400 Speaker 2: Black version better? Black version? Had that? Somebody in the 2284 01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:33,160 Speaker 2: rooms that Chris's Sorry to this man. Absolutely, I wouldn't 2285 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,720 Speaker 2: know him if I seen him walking down the street. Yeah, 2286 01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:38,080 Speaker 2: I feel so bad. He's probably a great man. 2287 01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,839 Speaker 6: I hate to say it. I hope I don't sound ridiculous. 2288 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,120 Speaker 6: I don't know who this man is. I mean, he 2289 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,799 Speaker 6: could be walking down the street. I wouldn't I wouldn't 2290 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:46,240 Speaker 6: know a thing. 2291 01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:47,920 Speaker 2: Sorry to this man. 2292 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to hate. He probably 2293 01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:52,400 Speaker 4: is dope, So don't write in. 2294 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,439 Speaker 2: I know a lot of the you know he did 2295 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,360 Speaker 2: Number one country artists I know. 2296 01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:58,400 Speaker 4: A lot of these special blacks probably staying for this man. 2297 01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:59,840 Speaker 2: Not this is not a dish. 2298 01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:00,920 Speaker 5: I never heard that. 2299 01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:03,360 Speaker 4: But that black man version sound better than me. 2300 01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure. Oh honey, he was. He was in all 2301 01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,120 Speaker 2: the notes, all the note he's playing all the instruments too. 2302 01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:12,479 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into white people news. I'm skipping 2303 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,719 Speaker 2: that shows man because I don't feel like talking about Trump. 2304 01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,760 Speaker 2: I feel like y'all made me. I got I made 2305 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,320 Speaker 2: myself angry. I picked those articles. Let me take some responsibility. 2306 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,240 Speaker 3: Okay, the world made me angry reading these articles that 2307 01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:32,840 Speaker 3: I picked for myself. Ashley Graham, the Latina Curby model 2308 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,960 Speaker 3: married to a black man. You know, she got her 2309 01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:41,040 Speaker 3: own issues. You know, when she first brought her black 2310 01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:43,679 Speaker 3: man home, he had to deal with racism in her family. 2311 01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:47,800 Speaker 2: So, uh, it wasn't just Eline, guys, all right, there's 2312 01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:51,120 Speaker 2: a lot of y'all been in that situation in one way, shape, 2313 01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,160 Speaker 2: form of fashion or another. 2314 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:52,559 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2315 01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,880 Speaker 4: As children, we're taught that sexy is dirty, shameful, and 2316 01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,280 Speaker 4: unlady like in the eyes of God. But has grown ass? 2317 01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:05,880 Speaker 2: Fuck women? Who about this? Oh Nicole bitchy or XO Nicole? Okay, 2318 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 2: they must be sassy with it, okay, But. 2319 01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,439 Speaker 3: As grown as fuck women, we understand that having a 2320 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,880 Speaker 3: healthy sex life is nothing to be ashamed of, especially 2321 01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:17,080 Speaker 3: when you're married. Yeah, it's that it's funny, but people 2322 01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:20,400 Speaker 3: say especially when you're married, because I agree, But that 2323 01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,120 Speaker 3: does also concede to those like kind of juday of 2324 01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:30,000 Speaker 3: it Christian values that marriage cleans up the quandaries morally 2325 01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:32,880 Speaker 3: about sex, which look, man, if you fucking people be 2326 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,120 Speaker 3: free with it, you know, like if you I'm just 2327 01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I hope it's your decision, your choice, all 2328 01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 3: that shit. But if you're fucking people an't feeling guilty, 2329 01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,280 Speaker 3: then you're probably doing it wrong, right, Like you don't 2330 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:48,360 Speaker 3: want to be feeling bad about enjoyed something with someone 2331 01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,960 Speaker 3: you know, Like, So, you know, I think a lot 2332 01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,720 Speaker 3: and also I think a lot of times, especially women 2333 01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:57,760 Speaker 3: think they're gonna get freed from the sexual like guilt 2334 01:54:58,160 --> 01:54:59,200 Speaker 3: via marriage and shit. 2335 01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't always work that way. 2336 01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:05,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes you still have hang ups, and you also have 2337 01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:08,480 Speaker 3: men who take advantage of that where it's like I'm 2338 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:14,120 Speaker 3: giving you the only godly and saintly sex you can have, 2339 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm giving you the only permitted sex. So I'm gonna 2340 01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,000 Speaker 3: abuse that privilege. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna treat 2341 01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:21,360 Speaker 3: you like shit. I'm gonna treat you like you here 2342 01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,760 Speaker 3: for reproduction. I'm gonna not care about your pleasure. I'm 2343 01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,520 Speaker 3: gonna not you know, I'm gonna make sure you owe it. 2344 01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 2: To me and shit like that. Like a lot of right, 2345 01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:33,160 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 2346 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of religious hang ups around sex 2347 01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:38,520 Speaker 3: that marriage doesn't really clear up because the underlying problem 2348 01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:42,000 Speaker 3: is the misogyny of religion. I agreed, and a recent interview, 2349 01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 3: model Actually Graham said the second faith go hand in hand. 2350 01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,200 Speaker 3: Says that in her household prayer is a former for play. 2351 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,040 Speaker 3: The thirty two year old model, who has been married 2352 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:54,760 Speaker 3: to her husband, Justine Justin Irvine for nearly a decade. 2353 01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,960 Speaker 3: It looks like Justine Justine Irvine for nearly a decade, 2354 01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:00,840 Speaker 3: is currently expecting her first child, says that her marriage 2355 01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:01,839 Speaker 3: has never been stronger. 2356 01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:03,360 Speaker 2: She's gorgeous in this picture. 2357 01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:04,920 Speaker 4: She gorgeous all her pictures. 2358 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,080 Speaker 2: That's a good looking woman. 2359 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,440 Speaker 3: According to Ashley, the key to keep it the fire 2360 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,800 Speaker 3: lit in their union over these past nine years has 2361 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 3: been their connection with God. In a recent interview with 2362 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:18,280 Speaker 3: Lily Singing, she said, my husband Justine So now it's 2363 01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,760 Speaker 3: Justin So maybe does a type of earliest. My husband 2364 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:25,120 Speaker 3: just editors Editors, Justin Irvin and I have prayer nights 2365 01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 3: together because I like to do meditations and prayer, and 2366 01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,520 Speaker 3: so does he on his own. But then when we 2367 01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,520 Speaker 3: do it together, it just feels more powerful. In that 2368 01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:34,640 Speaker 3: power when you're praying, it's like, oh, do you feel that? 2369 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,640 Speaker 2: I can see that. You know, you just be praying 2370 01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:40,600 Speaker 2: like God, you know, I. 2371 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:42,640 Speaker 3: Want you to bless this puss it I'm about to eat, 2372 01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:51,640 Speaker 3: rub it up, deark top of a girl. Now I 2373 01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 3: can see that though. I mean, whatever you practice in 2374 01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 3: your relationship, if y'all want to bless the sex first, 2375 01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:58,920 Speaker 3: I mean to me that, I mean they probably having 2376 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,640 Speaker 3: the more freaky a sex come along like that, they 2377 01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:03,840 Speaker 3: feel like they need to be blessed up. Put some 2378 01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:05,720 Speaker 3: holy water on this before we go in and do 2379 01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:08,760 Speaker 3: what we do, like they might be doing all kinds 2380 01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:12,520 Speaker 3: of shit. You know, it's like God gonna if God 2381 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:13,960 Speaker 3: gonna see this, we're gonna have to pray. 2382 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 2: For her, you know. But you might can turn around 2383 01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,600 Speaker 2: this one. Some of this is some of the other 2384 01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:21,040 Speaker 2: in the other chapters of the Bible, it's not cool, 2385 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:25,360 Speaker 2: so h but good for them man. She also had 2386 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,080 Speaker 2: a piece of advice for married couples who may be 2387 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 2: experiencing a rough a rough or a rough patch in 2388 01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:30,280 Speaker 2: a relationship. 2389 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,880 Speaker 4: Have sex all the time, even if you don't feel 2390 01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:33,040 Speaker 4: like it. 2391 01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:33,800 Speaker 2: Just have sex. 2392 01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:36,080 Speaker 3: I have found that if you haven't had sex, we 2393 01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,520 Speaker 3: get snippy, and then if we have are having sex, 2394 01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,960 Speaker 3: we're all over each other. For us, it's like, oh, 2395 01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,120 Speaker 3: let's have sex, and then we're just right back in 2396 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:48,160 Speaker 3: a great mood. I don't do relationship advice, so I 2397 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:51,560 Speaker 3: take that if you will. I don't know how people 2398 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,640 Speaker 3: get down their own relationship and what makes them feel 2399 01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,400 Speaker 3: better and whatnot. Like I assume it's different per couple, 2400 01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:01,480 Speaker 3: But you know, I do think that physical bond their 2401 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:02,960 Speaker 3: relationship does help though. 2402 01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,280 Speaker 2: It does bring It does bring you closer together, and 2403 01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people do get snippy and stuff like 2404 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,320 Speaker 2: that because being intimate is form of like a release 2405 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 2: from stress and things like that too. 2406 01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, kind of remind you of 2407 01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:18,960 Speaker 3: who you're with, what you were there, like, because everybody 2408 01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,720 Speaker 3: when you first get together has that that that I 2409 01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,960 Speaker 3: can't wait to get with you. And then you know, 2410 01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:28,480 Speaker 3: over the years, specially people that get kids and jobs. 2411 01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:30,720 Speaker 2: Intimate as much a lot of times that the show 2412 01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,640 Speaker 2: you have kids, you're not You're getting older. Come on 2413 01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 2: your body like that I saw article said Big Sean. 2414 01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:43,200 Speaker 3: Gave uh uh what is that chick's name, Jane, I 2415 01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,520 Speaker 3: go whatever her name is, one of them, one of 2416 01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:50,240 Speaker 3: them littles. As Karen would say, uh he gave she 2417 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,360 Speaker 3: he gave her nine orgasms. And I know I'm old 2418 01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:55,520 Speaker 3: now because I went that's oh, that's a lot. 2419 01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:58,160 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody got plans whatever today? 2420 01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 4: Like you know, you get older, like when you like 2421 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,000 Speaker 4: at twenty three, I'm like, I give a nine. 2422 01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,960 Speaker 2: I give I'll be in that push out all day. 2423 01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:07,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I got shit to do now. 2424 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:09,680 Speaker 2: You know, now you get to the point where you'd 2425 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,600 Speaker 2: be like you finish, okay, okay, okay. Like this, it'd 2426 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:15,120 Speaker 2: be like you good, I'm good, all right, all right. 2427 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,120 Speaker 2: You know you can't give her that back break and 2428 01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:19,480 Speaker 2: six she like, nigga, I need my back right. 2429 01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,840 Speaker 4: I was planning to do errands today and now I 2430 01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,320 Speaker 4: have to lay in the bed and recover. 2431 01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:26,840 Speaker 2: This is crazy. Come out now, I gotta go to 2432 01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:28,600 Speaker 2: the chiropract. The nigga with the fout you. 2433 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 4: When are we eating? I had a I had brunch scheduled, 2434 01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:31,840 Speaker 4: and I. 2435 01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:34,480 Speaker 2: Mean I had planning for mimosas, and now that shit 2436 01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:35,400 Speaker 2: is dissolved. 2437 01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:38,160 Speaker 4: It was funny because my friends circle is getting older too. 2438 01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:41,080 Speaker 3: So on Facebook was when Janelle James shared the article 2439 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,960 Speaker 3: all the women in the articles all the women you know? 2440 01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:46,720 Speaker 2: In her thread was like who got time of that? 2441 01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:51,200 Speaker 2: What's wrong with these people? Come out? I'm serious. I'm like, 2442 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:53,680 Speaker 2: you've been looking like my hip stop being like that. 2443 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm not as flexible no more. 2444 01:59:56,920 --> 02:00:00,520 Speaker 3: But I'm just thinking, like, it's funny because we all gone, 2445 02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:04,200 Speaker 3: we're getting older now because there was a time where 2446 02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,080 Speaker 3: it's like that would be the goal, like oh now 2447 02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:08,960 Speaker 3: what guys is in a day ship nigga? 2448 02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,960 Speaker 2: But now it's like but who? But then how I'm 2449 02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,560 Speaker 2: a good to the movies on time? Like it's like, 2450 02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:18,000 Speaker 2: but I came in show? Come on? The is this? 2451 02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:18,960 Speaker 2: You mean? 2452 02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,760 Speaker 3: I have twenty four hours without children and I'm supposed 2453 02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,080 Speaker 3: to spend all of it orgasm. 2454 02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:26,320 Speaker 2: I have books to read. Come on. I like to 2455 02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:29,880 Speaker 2: take a nap. And come out. I can find I 2456 02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,520 Speaker 2: can go visiting an old friend. I can finally get 2457 02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,320 Speaker 2: my pedicure like it's it's it's sagging, old job, go 2458 02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:40,480 Speaker 2: get a massage, sagging. Come on, I got oh people 2459 02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:43,680 Speaker 2: just like shit to do. Oh man, that's so sad. 2460 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Nah yeah, J said, can I get nine naps? Right? 2461 02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,600 Speaker 2: So sad? It's so sad? Was hapving it to us? 2462 02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:54,840 Speaker 2: When you're young, you have the whole like life in 2463 02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:56,680 Speaker 2: front of you and all the time in the world, 2464 02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:59,240 Speaker 2: and you like, knock as a nigga. I'll fucking I'll 2465 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:00,720 Speaker 2: beat the push to bleed and ship. 2466 02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Now you're like, now, who wants ay the bleed? That's 2467 02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:07,640 Speaker 3: ridiculous that I will break your back, sir. I need 2468 02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,800 Speaker 3: to use my back, sir. 2469 02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Now I got to go to the guy. No, No, 2470 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:15,880 Speaker 2: you can't go to the chiropractice. My insurance don't cover this. 2471 02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Can you just gently use my back? Just gently? Come out? 2472 02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:24,560 Speaker 2: You just being that break? I mean, what's what's wrong 2473 02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,960 Speaker 2: with bendy. It's like delicates in the in the washing machine. 2474 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:34,040 Speaker 2: This pussy is machine wash only, okay, draculan only, this 2475 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:38,240 Speaker 2: is d Now you like no niggas we gotta use pillows, 2476 02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:41,760 Speaker 2: can I but I just I am above the floor. 2477 02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,800 Speaker 2: I do my pussy does not do floor? No more? 2478 02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,360 Speaker 3: Right, like just not gill not orgasms is like we 2479 02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:50,240 Speaker 3: don't it don't matter if we have sex on the floor, 2480 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,080 Speaker 3: like when you when like when you's when it's not 2481 02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:56,040 Speaker 3: orgasm time in your life. It's like we could have 2482 02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:57,800 Speaker 3: this sex in the back seat of a car. It 2483 02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:01,320 Speaker 3: just doesn't matter. The break shift is in my spleen. 2484 02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:02,840 Speaker 2: It don't matter. We're having sex. 2485 02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:06,480 Speaker 3: And then now it's like people dating in their thirties, 2486 02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:08,600 Speaker 3: late thirties and forties. It's like, how many pillows he 2487 02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:09,160 Speaker 3: got in this bed? 2488 02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,480 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I got standards now? I mean that 2489 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:16,480 Speaker 2: couch looks rough? How many thread counts? That thread count 2490 02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:20,080 Speaker 2: too low? No? Thank you? Is that the people the 2491 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,600 Speaker 2: blue the purple mattress with purple mattress? Yeah? Like, I 2492 02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:28,080 Speaker 2: don't know about this one. This is silly apostopedic. I 2493 02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:31,840 Speaker 2: don't know the sleep number. Yeah, what's your sleep number 2494 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:33,400 Speaker 2: on this side of the bed, because I'm gonna need 2495 02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:35,800 Speaker 2: to adjustice for this. You've been looking like is the 2496 02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,600 Speaker 2: mattress on the floor? Bitch? No right, I got standards. 2497 02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,680 Speaker 2: For this puzzy. Now it turns from like I don't 2498 02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:43,680 Speaker 2: want no minute man to like I can't be having 2499 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:49,280 Speaker 2: sex all day under a minute you need to do. 2500 02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,520 Speaker 3: I'll just messing with y'all. I know, I know everybody's 2501 02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:54,040 Speaker 3: having great sex forever. I'm just yoking. 2502 02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,880 Speaker 2: And then you wonder why old people at the sun 2503 02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:02,640 Speaker 2: Rise Special at six am beating the hostess there because 2504 02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:03,800 Speaker 2: we got shit to do. Y'all. 2505 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:06,040 Speaker 3: Look, I know y'all have Megan the Stallion's knees and 2506 02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:09,080 Speaker 3: sex goest forever. Okay, I take everything I said back. 2507 02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:12,560 Speaker 2: Sex is grade forever now, Orgasm's minimum or I'm out. 2508 02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what you wouldn't me though, nigga, because 2509 02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:18,600 Speaker 2: no sex to the break of dawn. Then get up 2510 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,760 Speaker 2: at work, get them and go to work, right. I 2511 02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:26,760 Speaker 2: don't know who this lady is, Mary Mara Higgins, but 2512 02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:29,960 Speaker 2: she was sizzling in lace top. 2513 02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,840 Speaker 3: She's not showing it comes and putting out, putting on 2514 02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:36,840 Speaker 3: the show stop and display as many a showbiers event, 2515 02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:41,120 Speaker 3: at many a showbiz event, and Mara Higgins didn't disappoint. 2516 02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,440 Speaker 3: And she posts racing at an Anne Summer's Meet and 2517 02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Greet in Blanchard's Town shopping Center in Dublin, Ireland on Saturday. 2518 02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,120 Speaker 3: The Love Island Is twenty eight sizzled in a lace 2519 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,520 Speaker 3: cutout brawlt and leather trousers as she met over three 2520 02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:57,960 Speaker 3: hundred adorned fans in her native country. 2521 02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:02,120 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm a be a big deal over there. Still 2522 02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:02,880 Speaker 2: don't know who she is? 2523 02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously we're talking about her here. 2524 02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,560 Speaker 6: I hate to say it. I hope I don't sound ridiculous. 2525 02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,800 Speaker 6: I don't know who this man is. I mean he 2526 02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,480 Speaker 6: could be walking down the street. I wouldn't I wouldn't 2527 02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:16,920 Speaker 6: know a thing. 2528 02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:18,600 Speaker 2: Sorry to this man. 2529 02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:22,160 Speaker 3: She is a brand ambassador for the lingerie Giant ensured 2530 02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,680 Speaker 3: she dressed to impress for the occasion, and her daring 2531 02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,880 Speaker 3: cleavage bearing top, which featured a zip up leather panel 2532 02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,520 Speaker 3: a tick warm in the Chili winter weather, The star 2533 02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:35,040 Speaker 3: added a chic black buoy to her look, allowing her 2534 02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:37,960 Speaker 3: leather trousers and crop top combo to do the talking. 2535 02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:39,960 Speaker 2: Mar added a simple pair of blackils. 2536 02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:43,640 Speaker 3: The former grid girl styled her raven tresses into a 2537 02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:46,520 Speaker 3: dramatic hot ponytail, while she applied. 2538 02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:48,480 Speaker 4: A generous layer of glam makeup to her face. 2539 02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:54,920 Speaker 3: She appeared in good spirits as she happily waighed the 2540 02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,680 Speaker 3: fans opposed the pictures of the event. Her racy appearance 2541 02:04:57,720 --> 02:05:00,160 Speaker 3: comes after she insisted she's not ready for marriage after 2542 02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:03,240 Speaker 3: a psychic predicted she and her boyfriend Chris Picture will 2543 02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:05,200 Speaker 3: be engaged within six six months. 2544 02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:07,560 Speaker 4: Well, that all depends on how to focused tests with 2545 02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:08,120 Speaker 4: the audience. 2546 02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Earlier in the month, the lingerie model revealed of psychic 2547 02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:14,200 Speaker 3: claim love alence Curtis will pop the question early. 2548 02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:19,480 Speaker 2: Next year, admitted she's far from ready to tye to no. 2549 02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:23,040 Speaker 3: Mara said in at the event, I never said that 2550 02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:26,720 Speaker 3: this the this morning psychic predicted that, God, no, I'm 2551 02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,200 Speaker 3: not ready for marriage. I got nothing to worry about. 2552 02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:31,920 Speaker 3: You never know what's around the corner. The bomb Shall 2553 02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,440 Speaker 3: also revealed she prefers to keep her romance out of 2554 02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:36,440 Speaker 3: the spotlight despite forming. 2555 02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:37,400 Speaker 2: A relationship on TV. 2556 02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:42,280 Speaker 3: Okay, She explained, you guys think Curtis asking mar to 2557 02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:45,240 Speaker 3: be his girlfriend took longer than it was. We're very secretive. 2558 02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:48,000 Speaker 3: We get asked a lot of questions, but I just lie. 2559 02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:52,920 Speaker 3: I'm just lucky that I that it worked with Curtis. Oh, Curtis, 2560 02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:56,360 Speaker 3: he's such a good guy. Her upcoming dancing on ice 2561 02:05:56,440 --> 02:06:00,320 Speaker 3: stent Damn they do dancing on ice, dance Answer with 2562 02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,120 Speaker 3: the Stars, or they took. 2563 02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:05,440 Speaker 2: It to the next level. Don't fund to fall through 2564 02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:08,080 Speaker 2: the ice, you might not make it. Liability that's how 2565 02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:12,280 Speaker 2: to eliminate contestants, Just fall through the ice kind of liability. 2566 02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:14,600 Speaker 3: Waivers do you have to sign You have to sign 2567 02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:17,880 Speaker 3: on them. Kaepernick waivers to get h on that show. 2568 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:22,160 Speaker 3: The media personality revealed that while she and skating, she 2569 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:23,959 Speaker 3: feels intimidated by other contestants. 2570 02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:24,280 Speaker 2: Talent. 2571 02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,640 Speaker 4: The social media sensation shared, I'm definitely progressing. 2572 02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,760 Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying it, and I don't didn't think I would. 2573 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,840 Speaker 3: I've had some lumps and bumps. My biggest competition, well, 2574 02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:37,000 Speaker 3: I got a lot of competition, but Perry Kylie uh 2575 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:43,840 Speaker 3: and Iron h. Iron Watkins is also good. Caprice has 2576 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,360 Speaker 3: also come a long way. Was a Caprice? 2577 02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2578 02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:51,720 Speaker 3: I think caprize is a salad anyway. That's white people now, 2579 02:06:51,960 --> 02:06:54,560 Speaker 3: So that's why I don't know how to pronounce it. 2580 02:06:55,720 --> 02:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Uh caprice like the car right so uh, priest like 2581 02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:02,880 Speaker 2: a preest son, I don't know it was c a 2582 02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:06,080 Speaker 2: p r I ce so probably Caprice. I think that's 2583 02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:09,560 Speaker 2: how you said that Taylor Swift has a cute Scooter 2584 02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:13,360 Speaker 2: Braun and Scott bought Scheedda of hiding her music, holding 2585 02:07:13,400 --> 02:07:16,280 Speaker 2: her music hostage. Yeah, she's been going back and forth 2586 02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:17,200 Speaker 2: with this bullshitation. 2587 02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw this on Twitter, and you know, you 2588 02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:22,840 Speaker 3: know me, man, I always have a soft spot for 2589 02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:24,800 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift because I feel like, as a twenty nine 2590 02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:26,360 Speaker 3: year old, I've watched her grow up. 2591 02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:30,160 Speaker 4: And it's been harsh on her. You know, a lot 2592 02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:31,680 Speaker 4: of this stuff around her and a lot of. 2593 02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:34,280 Speaker 3: It not her fault, and some of it is her fault, 2594 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:38,240 Speaker 3: like every single fucking person, but the genders around her 2595 02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,240 Speaker 3: and what she needs to do and stand for so 2596 02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:44,960 Speaker 3: ridiculously so. But she is as she's funny, as she 2597 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,440 Speaker 3: starts to be more outspoken and growing to her own voice, 2598 02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:50,440 Speaker 3: you see people move a goal posting real time on her. 2599 02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,640 Speaker 2: So anyway, an extensive. 2600 02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:55,960 Speaker 3: Statement published on social media, Taylor Swift plans a Scott 2601 02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,520 Speaker 3: bought Shadda, the head of her former record label at 2602 02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,800 Speaker 3: Scooter bron who brought the master rights to her first 2603 02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,040 Speaker 3: six albums earlier this year, are not allowing her to 2604 02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,720 Speaker 3: use any of her old songs in a forthcoming Netflix 2605 02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:10,920 Speaker 3: documentary about her or in performance that this year's American 2606 02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Music Awards. 2607 02:08:12,280 --> 02:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's got it out for her. 2608 02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:17,320 Speaker 3: That's really Uh, that part is really important because of 2609 02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:21,920 Speaker 3: the American Music Awards. If I'm not mistaken, she's being honored. 2610 02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,240 Speaker 3: So she's getting like artists of a decade, and these 2611 02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:26,760 Speaker 3: men own the right to her music. 2612 02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:29,320 Speaker 2: And my thing is like she gonna you're gonna get 2613 02:08:29,320 --> 02:08:30,560 Speaker 2: money out of her. She has to pay you for 2614 02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,520 Speaker 2: the right to the sh anyday, just take the money. 2615 02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:35,760 Speaker 3: Well, Shedda and Broun will only allow her to make 2616 02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:37,600 Speaker 3: use of her music if she agrees to not re 2617 02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,240 Speaker 3: record her the songs that they own, and if she 2618 02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:43,040 Speaker 3: stopped speaking out about them. So they're trying to silence her, 2619 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,879 Speaker 3: swift claims. Earlier this year, she published a similarly impassion 2620 02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:49,920 Speaker 3: statement against Braun and his acquisition of her master cording recordings. 2621 02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:53,360 Speaker 3: Scooter also manages several artists who I really believe care 2622 02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:54,560 Speaker 3: about other artists in their work. 2623 02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,800 Speaker 4: Please ask them for help with this. I'm hoping that 2624 02:08:57,960 --> 02:08:58,680 Speaker 4: maybe they can talk. 2625 02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,080 Speaker 2: So sists to the men who are exercises too radical 2626 02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,840 Speaker 2: control over someone who just wants to play the music 2627 02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:04,320 Speaker 2: she wrote. 2628 02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw people being like, oh, she should 2629 02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,640 Speaker 3: go playing a victim again. I'm like, sometimes she is 2630 02:09:11,720 --> 02:09:12,200 Speaker 3: the victim. 2631 02:09:12,760 --> 02:09:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sometimes she is like everybody else, Yeah, just like 2632 02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:17,560 Speaker 2: all your face. 2633 02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:20,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes she is a victim. What's taking us along the 2634 02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:21,760 Speaker 3: standout to speak out about stuff? 2635 02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:24,600 Speaker 2: Man, we didn't know how Beyonce felt about a lot 2636 02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:27,520 Speaker 2: of shit until about five years ago. Come on, and 2637 02:09:27,600 --> 02:09:30,440 Speaker 2: then we was like, what hold up? So we okay, 2638 02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:33,720 Speaker 2: it's even more than just feminism. This is like some 2639 02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:39,400 Speaker 2: super pro black, pro military, militant blackness shit that you're doing, 2640 02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,120 Speaker 2: pro woman shit, like come through me say and we 2641 02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:42,680 Speaker 2: always with. 2642 02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:43,160 Speaker 6: It, you know. 2643 02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:45,360 Speaker 2: And for a lot of us, a lot of us 2644 02:09:45,520 --> 02:09:48,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't even speaking our online on on social media about 2645 02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:54,360 Speaker 2: black lives matter or any of that. So everybody changes. 2646 02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:57,880 Speaker 3: So she wouldcome more outspoken and actually earlier than a 2647 02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:02,040 Speaker 3: lot of people, right, earlier than a lot of people 2648 02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:03,440 Speaker 3: people that we don't require. 2649 02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:05,160 Speaker 2: To be outspoken. But I don't even ask. 2650 02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think after that Kanye shit, she became 2651 02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:09,960 Speaker 3: a placeholder for all white women. 2652 02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:14,080 Speaker 2: So it's just not you can't say anything to her 2653 02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,160 Speaker 2: credit without some motherfucker trying to rush in and make 2654 02:10:17,240 --> 02:10:20,200 Speaker 2: her like it too, some virulent racist piece of shit. 2655 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:22,480 Speaker 2: And the thing is, guess what, she didn't vote on 2656 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,680 Speaker 2: the fucking award. Somebody else did. Yeah, so yeah, but 2657 02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:30,320 Speaker 2: it's crazy that because what I kept thinking is it's 2658 02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. 2659 02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:35,640 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is like somebody, she's a big ass name. 2660 02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:40,080 Speaker 3: If if I told somebody like yo, you know, Taylor 2661 02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:42,800 Speaker 3: Swift doesn't control. 2662 02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:48,640 Speaker 4: Her own musical like archive, and like. 2663 02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:54,040 Speaker 3: The people in control of it would rather silence her 2664 02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:56,840 Speaker 3: than allow her. 2665 02:10:56,880 --> 02:11:01,080 Speaker 2: To pay them to buy her herself right, and she 2666 02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:04,640 Speaker 2: turned her down. She did, she did. 2667 02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:08,080 Speaker 3: It's just wild to me. And I'm like, who else 2668 02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:10,800 Speaker 3: does that talk to tap into? Because we only know 2669 02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift because she's so big, she can go on 2670 02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:17,440 Speaker 3: her platform and really say that. But what other artists 2671 02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:20,640 Speaker 3: do we look at that are not as big as 2672 02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:23,840 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, that aren't as successful, that aren't as privileged 2673 02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:27,280 Speaker 3: as Taylor Swift, that we're like, yo, that maybe that's 2674 02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:30,200 Speaker 3: why Laurence Hill can't perform a fucking mis education. That's 2675 02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:35,200 Speaker 3: maybe that's why, maybe that's why happened a cash doll. 2676 02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,120 Speaker 3: You know what's going on with Siza? You know what 2677 02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:41,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Like, y'all like, if you stop at, well, 2678 02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:43,320 Speaker 3: I don't like this person, so I'm not gonna consider 2679 02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:45,600 Speaker 3: this point anymore, then you miss all the ship that 2680 02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:48,160 Speaker 3: can happen to the people you do like. But most 2681 02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:51,280 Speaker 3: people are not that fucking savvy or that well intentioned 2682 02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:54,680 Speaker 3: or uh have that much integrity, so they just stop 2683 02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:56,760 Speaker 3: at I don't like this person. I'm not gonna consider 2684 02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:01,280 Speaker 3: the fucking bigger point you're making. And to those people mute, unfollowed, block, 2685 02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:02,840 Speaker 3: whatever the fuck, I don't need to deal with it. 2686 02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:08,040 Speaker 3: But it's so funny to see people like do this 2687 02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:11,440 Speaker 3: weird type of back and forth where they claim they're 2688 02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,360 Speaker 3: staying for the principles to tell somebody they don't like. 2689 02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:16,800 Speaker 2: Yes, sir so, Because remember when I. 2690 02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:19,680 Speaker 3: Talked about the people suing folks for music, everybody was 2691 02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:21,640 Speaker 3: cool with it, and then it's like now it's Cardi 2692 02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:24,240 Speaker 3: and little Naseics and shit, now it's like, okay, well 2693 02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:24,720 Speaker 3: hold up. 2694 02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:27,720 Speaker 2: Hold up now, they shouldn't be able to do this. 2695 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:29,920 Speaker 2: This isn't right. Well it wasn't right the whole time. 2696 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:32,240 Speaker 2: That's why people are like, no, no, no, no, no, 2697 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,640 Speaker 2: you don't need the general public who don't who don't 2698 02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:37,000 Speaker 2: fucking know about this. You need people to actually in 2699 02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:38,960 Speaker 2: the industry. They can actually tell you if there's a 2700 02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:39,680 Speaker 2: true difference. 2701 02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:42,320 Speaker 3: And she's and luckily for her, she's privileged enough to 2702 02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,600 Speaker 3: take the consequences of speaking out because one of the 2703 02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:48,000 Speaker 3: things like when Kesha was doing this with Doctor Luke 2704 02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:51,200 Speaker 3: and he shut her music down. Guess who gave Kesha 2705 02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:54,240 Speaker 3: money to hold her over. It was Taylor Swift. Yeah, 2706 02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:55,960 Speaker 3: And she didn't do it and put it all in 2707 02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:58,440 Speaker 3: the public. She wasn't all out there like it got 2708 02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:02,240 Speaker 3: exposed because Kesha and their people was like, well, y'all 2709 02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:03,960 Speaker 3: saying she don't do nothing for women, But she did 2710 02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,720 Speaker 3: this for me. I say, I was raped by this 2711 02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:10,800 Speaker 3: man and he controls my music and my destiny. And 2712 02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:14,200 Speaker 3: she didn't just hashtag feminism stay with cash, and she 2713 02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:16,760 Speaker 3: actually puts some money on this shit and helped me 2714 02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:19,120 Speaker 3: get by, you know. 2715 02:13:19,400 --> 02:13:21,600 Speaker 4: Like people don't like the shit when it's not convenient, 2716 02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:22,560 Speaker 4: you know. 2717 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:27,520 Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna do another ant, but it's yeah, 2718 02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:29,920 Speaker 3: it's just it frustrates me, you know what I mean. 2719 02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:31,680 Speaker 3: Like I was telling, like I was talking to my 2720 02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:33,000 Speaker 3: friend to day, I said, this is why I have 2721 02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:36,600 Speaker 3: five friends, because I have five people I trust to 2722 02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:40,000 Speaker 3: be like, you know where. I don't like to have 2723 02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:42,680 Speaker 3: to concede this point, but I get it, you know 2724 02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:44,840 Speaker 3: what I mean? Or I can at least admit that, 2725 02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:48,080 Speaker 3: you know what, dog, I can't really be fair about this, 2726 02:13:48,240 --> 02:13:50,400 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go ahead and just bow out of 2727 02:13:50,440 --> 02:13:51,040 Speaker 3: this conversation. 2728 02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, I do that sometimes. Shit, We've had 2729 02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:56,960 Speaker 2: copies on here where I'm like, I can't, you know what. 2730 02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,680 Speaker 2: I don't like this person so much, even with being wrong, 2731 02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:03,520 Speaker 2: I can't you know what I mean? So I just 2732 02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,160 Speaker 2: I get this wrong. I'm not gonna pile on or whatever. 2733 02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:08,640 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try to make it seem like it's 2734 02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:10,839 Speaker 2: okay for this person to be whatever. 2735 02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,520 Speaker 3: But I just don't fuck with them like that. People 2736 02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:15,440 Speaker 3: can't even do that with Taylor Swift. They will make 2737 02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:19,160 Speaker 3: a whole ass argument on why it's okay to silence a. 2738 02:14:19,200 --> 02:14:22,080 Speaker 4: Woman in this case, you know, but not others. 2739 02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:22,680 Speaker 2: Correct. 2740 02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:26,200 Speaker 3: It's also weird when people are like, so every racial 2741 02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:30,160 Speaker 3: relationship is is, every breakup in her songs is the 2742 02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:31,280 Speaker 3: man fault and she ain't. 2743 02:14:31,680 --> 02:14:33,720 Speaker 2: So she's just playing the victim like nigga. We all 2744 02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:34,600 Speaker 2: been listening to Mary J. 2745 02:14:34,720 --> 02:14:37,880 Speaker 3: Blige talks about men my whole life. And I believe 2746 02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:43,120 Speaker 3: every song, every song, not once stuff I taken. I 2747 02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:45,600 Speaker 3: ain't took Casey's side, not one time. 2748 02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,400 Speaker 2: Can do side. I ain't said you know what Mary 2749 02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:52,000 Speaker 2: the common denominator for twelve albums as you. I say, girl, 2750 02:14:52,120 --> 02:14:54,120 Speaker 2: these men ain't shit, girl, turn it on. Let's drink 2751 02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:56,880 Speaker 2: some brown and let's do it okay, And men have 2752 02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:57,840 Speaker 2: rapped about women. 2753 02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the fuck out of my face? Oh, moving the 2754 02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:04,840 Speaker 3: gold post ass niggas. Sarah Palin claim she found out 2755 02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:07,040 Speaker 3: that her husband, Todd Palin's divorce filing. 2756 02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:07,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 2757 02:15:08,080 --> 02:15:10,200 Speaker 4: She found it out through an email. 2758 02:15:11,320 --> 02:15:16,000 Speaker 2: Dum Now see hey did he just see you own it? Now? 2759 02:15:16,120 --> 02:15:20,360 Speaker 2: See this is me being honest. This is exactly what 2760 02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:23,920 Speaker 2: I was talking about. I can't be fair to Sarah Palin, like, 2761 02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:27,720 Speaker 2: this must be terrible, right to find out three email? 2762 02:15:28,160 --> 02:15:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't care. 2763 02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:31,480 Speaker 4: Because I don't like her, and I can be honest 2764 02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:31,880 Speaker 4: about it. 2765 02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Uh. 2766 02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:35,800 Speaker 3: Sarah Palen claim that she first learned about her husband, 2767 02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:39,520 Speaker 3: Todd Palin's planning a file for the Voice via email. Yeah, 2768 02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:42,080 Speaker 3: everybody knows that should be a uh, that should be 2769 02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:45,839 Speaker 3: a snail mail certain five letter through the post office 2770 02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:50,800 Speaker 3: the former Alaska governor fifty five open up vial. She 2771 02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:54,440 Speaker 3: fell after the oil fil production operator also fifty five, 2772 02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:56,840 Speaker 3: seeking the end their marriage after thirty one years. She 2773 02:15:56,960 --> 02:15:59,960 Speaker 3: told Christian author James Dobson that the discovery was devins 2774 02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:02,400 Speaker 3: stating and added that it felt like she got shot. 2775 02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:06,840 Speaker 3: I found out from an email from an attorney saying 2776 02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:09,600 Speaker 3: that she was hired, and that was on June nineteenth. 2777 02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:12,880 Speaker 3: I'll never forget it, she explained in the second half 2778 02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:13,960 Speaker 3: of her two part interview. 2779 02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:17,840 Speaker 2: What could she be talking about? And it sounds like 2780 02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,680 Speaker 2: if he sent her email, they probably would not communicate 2781 02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:25,440 Speaker 2: with each other, not even probably something it's not Yes, 2782 02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:29,040 Speaker 2: for ma's been so bad. He was like, send it 2783 02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:30,160 Speaker 2: a bitch email. 2784 02:16:30,440 --> 02:16:34,560 Speaker 3: Right, I found out from an email, And then on 2785 02:16:34,680 --> 02:16:37,560 Speaker 3: Todd's birthday and week got our thirty first anniversary is 2786 02:16:37,640 --> 02:16:39,960 Speaker 3: when he filed. Yeah, oh yeah, it's not easy to 2787 02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:47,360 Speaker 3: talk about. Well yeah, well, I mean, well he waited 2788 02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:47,680 Speaker 3: a week. 2789 02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:53,320 Speaker 2: He gave you the courtesy. You knew it wasn't all good, 2790 02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:56,920 Speaker 2: Like I said, you knew it wasn't all good for 2791 02:16:57,320 --> 02:17:00,880 Speaker 2: him to just send you an email. Oh y'all y'all 2792 02:17:00,959 --> 02:17:04,160 Speaker 2: probably have not been sleeping together in a hot minute. 2793 02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:07,199 Speaker 3: A real petty king would have did it own the anniversary. 2794 02:17:07,480 --> 02:17:09,760 Speaker 3: So he's a better, come on, better man than a 2795 02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:12,360 Speaker 3: lot of men. Okay, if he was Daton Taylor Swift 2796 02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:14,160 Speaker 3: would have did it own the anniversary and it would 2797 02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:14,760 Speaker 3: have made a song. 2798 02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure so many of you either maybe you've been 2799 02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:21,720 Speaker 2: through it, or you have people who you love, You've 2800 02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,040 Speaker 2: witness how harbor is. But I just think, wow, maybe 2801 02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:26,200 Speaker 2: except for death of a child, I don't know what 2802 02:17:26,320 --> 02:17:27,519 Speaker 2: could be more devastating. 2803 02:17:30,200 --> 02:17:32,680 Speaker 3: She y'all suggests that their long term marriage isn't necessarily 2804 02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:35,920 Speaker 3: over over. She revealed that the pair are going through counseling. 2805 02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Now are you? Are you going through counseling now? 2806 02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:41,320 Speaker 7: Oh? 2807 02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:41,720 Speaker 6: She? 2808 02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:43,199 Speaker 2: He filed for divorce. 2809 02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:47,959 Speaker 3: He cited incompatively incompatibility of temperament between the parties. 2810 02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:49,160 Speaker 5: Uh. 2811 02:17:49,360 --> 02:17:52,200 Speaker 2: The commercial fisherman also stated, wait, what does he do? 2812 02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:54,960 Speaker 2: I thought he was a rant of oil thing. 2813 02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:58,640 Speaker 3: He also stated in his filing that the difficulties and 2814 02:17:58,720 --> 02:18:00,959 Speaker 3: their pairs in their marriage made it impossible to live 2815 02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:02,119 Speaker 3: together as husband and wife. 2816 02:18:02,360 --> 02:18:03,000 Speaker 4: Oh damn. 2817 02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:07,240 Speaker 3: They tied a nine in nineteen eighty eight and their 2818 02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:12,800 Speaker 3: the parents, of course, to track Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig. 2819 02:18:14,560 --> 02:18:17,000 Speaker 3: According to the Angerish Daily News, a couple also seeking 2820 02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:19,560 Speaker 3: joint custody of Trigg, who was born with Down syndrome. 2821 02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:22,200 Speaker 3: I don't know why that was part of the article, 2822 02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:24,720 Speaker 3: the former vice president of candidate once. 2823 02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:26,560 Speaker 2: Joe Old because that's the only child of some they 2824 02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:27,840 Speaker 2: age No. 2825 02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:29,200 Speaker 4: I mean the down syndrome part. 2826 02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:31,680 Speaker 2: I just said the youngest child, Trigg. I don't know 2827 02:18:31,760 --> 02:18:35,560 Speaker 2: what they why that was relevant to the I'm with 2828 02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:38,760 Speaker 2: you now to say that the remark first, it's like, 2829 02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that that's the remark first service 2830 02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:45,480 Speaker 2: in February twenty twelve, which she said that her marriage 2831 02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:49,080 Speaker 2: would eventually meet its demise if so that that remark service. 2832 02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:51,440 Speaker 3: In February twenty twelve, after the state officials released seventeen 2833 02:18:51,520 --> 02:18:55,160 Speaker 3: thousand records which were initially obtained by the Associated Press's 2834 02:18:55,160 --> 02:18:57,800 Speaker 3: part of Freedom Information Act requests, it was discovered that 2835 02:18:57,879 --> 02:19:00,000 Speaker 3: she mentioned the concept of September two thousand and seven 2836 02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:03,199 Speaker 3: email Wild Governor. Her spouse was copied on the memo, 2837 02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:05,680 Speaker 3: along with her aids Chris Perry and Frank Bailey. So 2838 02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:07,800 Speaker 3: they want them people that always be breaking up and 2839 02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:12,560 Speaker 3: now this is just the latest version. So speaking of 2840 02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:15,480 Speaker 3: if we are when we get a divorce, does that 2841 02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:19,280 Speaker 3: quel conflict the interest accusations about VP? She wrote, jokingly 2842 02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:22,680 Speaker 3: reverencing her husband's work on the oil companies Northern Slopes Pipeline. 2843 02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:26,840 Speaker 2: Bailey added, very funny, So maybe it was just a joke. 2844 02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:30,320 Speaker 2: M hm. You never know what these white folks man. 2845 02:19:30,400 --> 02:19:32,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes they be getting divorced and you'd be like, what's 2846 02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:35,080 Speaker 2: happening finding out during uh? 2847 02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:38,640 Speaker 3: For email though, that's gotta that's gotta be terrible for you. 2848 02:19:40,360 --> 02:19:44,880 Speaker 3: One more for white people news. We've been going for 2849 02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:46,800 Speaker 3: quite some time here. It's time for us to get 2850 02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:50,000 Speaker 3: out of here. I gotta I have a point with 2851 02:19:50,080 --> 02:19:52,760 Speaker 3: the NFL, and I'm gonna move it to a high school. 2852 02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:55,400 Speaker 3: And I'm wearing my Django and chain shirt, so I 2853 02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:56,360 Speaker 3: gotta get dressed. 2854 02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to see you what the HEDIA needs 2855 02:20:00,600 --> 02:20:03,200 Speaker 2: to see this care? What if I did that I 2856 02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:05,640 Speaker 2: got YouTube live and I got like one hundred people 2857 02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:08,039 Speaker 2: to come out and watch me be terrible at football 2858 02:20:08,879 --> 02:20:11,040 Speaker 2: in a Django unchain a in a crack of ass, 2859 02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:12,800 Speaker 2: cracking his shirt or something like that. That would be 2860 02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:16,000 Speaker 2: a good parody. It'll be like I'm just out there, 2861 02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:19,120 Speaker 2: like I'm trying out for Michael Jordan and Charlotte Hornets. 2862 02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm very upset. I'm so, I'm very pissed off in 2863 02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:25,560 Speaker 2: some of the things that he's done. But I'm a 2864 02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:27,040 Speaker 2: try out. And then I just take off my shirt 2865 02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:28,879 Speaker 2: and say, cheese eyes. It's got a pair of mom 2866 02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:31,200 Speaker 2: jeans on it, and I just shoot a bunch of 2867 02:20:31,240 --> 02:20:32,760 Speaker 2: air balls and ship and I'll be like, if you 2868 02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:36,200 Speaker 2: can see I belong on the Hornets because they suck. Okay, 2869 02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:39,880 Speaker 2: I could do that. Anyone can shoot the maileballs. I 2870 02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:41,480 Speaker 2: just kidding. We're great this year Guys. 2871 02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:46,160 Speaker 3: NYC psychology professor Secretly Moonlights is a white nationalist co 2872 02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:50,039 Speaker 3: host of Richard Spismer's podcast What All It Must. 2873 02:20:49,879 --> 02:20:50,920 Speaker 4: Be Nice to Be White? 2874 02:20:53,160 --> 02:20:53,640 Speaker 2: For years. 2875 02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:58,240 Speaker 3: Joshua Deetz has taught psychology at New York City's public 2876 02:20:58,560 --> 02:21:03,240 Speaker 3: and private universities. Students of Kingsborough Community College describe him 2877 02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:06,640 Speaker 3: as a modern professor, easy going and informal, plays guitar 2878 02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:09,160 Speaker 3: in the spare time, and maintains a hypnosis practice in 2879 02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:13,000 Speaker 3: downtown Brooklyn, providing emotional counseling and a certainness training. He 2880 02:21:13,160 --> 02:21:15,880 Speaker 3: was in the junk and act jump at Saint Francis 2881 02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:19,080 Speaker 3: College just a few blocks away as recently as recently 2882 02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:22,080 Speaker 3: as last fall. But when he's not teaching undergrass or 2883 02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:26,039 Speaker 3: hypnotizing passive Man, Deets is lecturing under another name, Josh Neil, 2884 02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:29,760 Speaker 3: avowed white nationalists and co hosts of Richard Spencer's podcast. 2885 02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:33,120 Speaker 2: Does he change his color in his head? Like on 2886 02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:35,880 Speaker 2: the videos? What's what's up with that? What video? The 2887 02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,360 Speaker 2: pictures at the top, ain't that two versions of him? No? 2888 02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:40,119 Speaker 2: That's him and Richard Spencer. I think. 2889 02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:45,520 Speaker 4: About to say, even like why was he putting his 2890 02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:46,840 Speaker 4: face out there knowing that? 2891 02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:49,440 Speaker 2: Come on? What was he thinking? 2892 02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:52,240 Speaker 3: I mean, not that I want him to get away 2893 02:21:52,280 --> 02:21:54,520 Speaker 3: with it, but like, damn whiteness was to be good. 2894 02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:57,120 Speaker 3: He never even thought like I should probably do this 2895 02:21:57,240 --> 02:22:00,040 Speaker 3: in like a mask or off camera. You know, I 2896 02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:03,160 Speaker 3: got a whole job, and shit, why why worry about it? 2897 02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I mean, I mean it was just 2898 02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:11,240 Speaker 2: spend and bringing back with pass bringing back article. 2899 02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:13,960 Speaker 6: I guess with the red white man, we can do anything. 2900 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. Uh. 2901 02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:22,480 Speaker 3: Operating under a thinly veiled moniker, Deets hosts The MC 2902 02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:26,760 Speaker 3: Spencer group alongside Spencer uh perhaps the best known American 2903 02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:28,720 Speaker 3: neo Nazi, and found a member of the so called 2904 02:22:28,760 --> 02:22:31,040 Speaker 3: all Right for hours at a time, deets at a 2905 02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:33,320 Speaker 3: rotated selection, I guess, helped plot the future of the 2906 02:22:33,360 --> 02:22:37,000 Speaker 3: white identity movement, touching on subjects from eugenics to Kirkkobain, 2907 02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:40,920 Speaker 3: a similar white displacement to the negro ffication of American 2908 02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:43,080 Speaker 3: culture negation. 2909 02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:45,200 Speaker 4: That's the problem with Capernick. You out here negro find 2910 02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:45,959 Speaker 4: these motherfuckers. 2911 02:22:47,440 --> 02:22:49,600 Speaker 2: I guess I'm part of the negro fication movement. 2912 02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:51,920 Speaker 3: I looked in the stadium, I said, these white people 2913 02:22:51,959 --> 02:22:53,080 Speaker 3: becoming negro fied. 2914 02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:57,080 Speaker 2: Nobody told me you ever just see. 2915 02:22:56,959 --> 02:22:59,879 Speaker 4: A black person be like you are a negro fried motherfucker. 2916 02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:00,160 Speaker 5: Boy. 2917 02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:03,840 Speaker 4: Let me tell you looking out negro fied this morning, 2918 02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:05,320 Speaker 4: where are you going to church? 2919 02:23:06,280 --> 02:23:11,440 Speaker 2: Uh Chicken? Negro fights? You going to church of Chicken? 2920 02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:13,480 Speaker 4: You must be going to Popeye. You just you got 2921 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:15,279 Speaker 4: real negro fied. I can tell the grease. 2922 02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:19,640 Speaker 3: They can't speak eloquently, they can't dress a particular way, 2923 02:23:19,640 --> 02:23:22,840 Speaker 3: they can't show enthusiasm for educational career advancing or I 2924 02:23:22,879 --> 02:23:26,360 Speaker 3: don't know, monogamous healthy relationships without a without a wedlocked children, 2925 02:23:26,440 --> 02:23:30,760 Speaker 3: said Deets during the episode with author Colin Flaherty recorded 2926 02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:33,400 Speaker 3: earlier this year. Flarty incidentally was the voice of how 2927 02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:37,080 Speaker 3: to explicitly racist video that the NYPD union boss ed 2928 02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:39,760 Speaker 3: Mullins apologized for sharing this summer. 2929 02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:48,000 Speaker 2: You saying the police shared some white supremacist video and 2930 02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:50,920 Speaker 2: deal was like, ooh, my bad, am deleted it. 2931 02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:53,760 Speaker 3: You think I'm a food I might have been born yesterday, 2932 02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:56,840 Speaker 3: but I might have been born on a Saturday, but 2933 02:23:56,879 --> 02:23:57,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't born yesterday. 2934 02:23:58,680 --> 02:24:01,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't. 2935 02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:05,480 Speaker 3: Believe that deleted, just like I don't believe nothing. I 2936 02:24:05,560 --> 02:24:09,240 Speaker 3: believe everything except the delete. You really can't trust them, 2937 02:24:09,280 --> 02:24:12,160 Speaker 3: says Duke. Oh wait, I'm sorry. These frequently appears on 2938 02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:15,160 Speaker 3: similar podcasts to his own show, No Apologies Uh. He 2939 02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:17,680 Speaker 3: has featured guests such as Patrick Little, who believes Jews 2940 02:24:17,720 --> 02:24:21,320 Speaker 3: should be raised his livestock, and notorious neo Nazi David Duke. 2941 02:24:21,440 --> 02:24:23,720 Speaker 3: In a conversation with Duke earlier this year, he asked 2942 02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:25,960 Speaker 3: about the issue of right wing figures maintaining relationships with 2943 02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:29,440 Speaker 3: Jewish people and whether it makes them emotionally blind to criticism. 2944 02:24:30,280 --> 02:24:32,920 Speaker 2: Wow, you really can't trust them, said Duke. 2945 02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:35,480 Speaker 3: The only Jews that I really have any respect for 2946 02:24:35,560 --> 02:24:38,879 Speaker 3: are those Jews who exposed that, exposed Jewish power, exposed 2947 02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:42,400 Speaker 3: Jewish racism, and exposed Jewish efforts to destroy us. Following 2948 02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:47,160 Speaker 3: the lengthy monologue, these replies, that's so well said. These 2949 02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:50,440 Speaker 3: faces visible on his frequent video live streams, which often 2950 02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:52,600 Speaker 3: rack up tens of thousands of views on YouTube. 2951 02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:55,400 Speaker 2: Also, you don't need that job at other streaming services. 2952 02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:58,200 Speaker 3: But until this week, the connection between the Pseudonyms podcasts 2953 02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:00,480 Speaker 3: and his public facing life as a professor certing life 2954 02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:03,480 Speaker 3: coach were not wildly known. The change followed the tweet 2955 02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:06,160 Speaker 3: posting on Monday from an anonymous account seemingly seen as 2956 02:25:06,200 --> 02:25:08,520 Speaker 3: part of an internise and. 2957 02:25:08,600 --> 02:25:11,040 Speaker 4: Fight with the all right that exploded this weekend. 2958 02:25:11,160 --> 02:25:16,119 Speaker 2: Ah, they was all right on all right violence arguing 2959 02:25:16,360 --> 02:25:19,320 Speaker 2: people arguing that pull that shit out. Can't we just 2960 02:25:19,640 --> 02:25:25,240 Speaker 2: all right get along? Apparently not, because as a scholar, 2961 02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:31,840 Speaker 2: Rodney King said that, so wow, that's how we found out. 2962 02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:35,480 Speaker 3: After the far right personality Malo yallaopolists leaked audio meant 2963 02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:39,119 Speaker 3: to humiliate Spencer, My ancestor is fucking enslaved those little 2964 02:25:39,120 --> 02:25:43,520 Speaker 3: pieces of fucking shit, Spencer shrieks reportedly reacting to blowback 2965 02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:46,080 Speaker 3: to the Bigger that Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. 2966 02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:47,680 Speaker 2: I ruled the fucking world. 2967 02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:51,560 Speaker 3: Yes, the white man who got a Hitler haircut and 2968 02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:55,440 Speaker 3: wore suit, and white people told me how sophisticated he was. 2969 02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:01,280 Speaker 2: Look at the new face of the alright they like 2970 02:26:01,560 --> 02:26:03,680 Speaker 2: a few years ago. People go down by fucking racis 2971 02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:06,800 Speaker 2: what are we talking about here? Right? Oh? Racist? Can 2972 02:26:06,879 --> 02:26:08,760 Speaker 2: ta taz what? Well? 2973 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:09,800 Speaker 4: Now we need to hear him out. 2974 02:26:10,920 --> 02:26:13,040 Speaker 3: The tweet was followed by the investigation of it by 2975 02:26:13,120 --> 02:26:15,840 Speaker 3: It's Going Down, an anti fascist blog that linked josh 2976 02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:17,039 Speaker 3: Neil to Joshua. 2977 02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Deets He's going Down. 2978 02:26:18,440 --> 02:26:21,280 Speaker 3: The article noted that Deez plays guitar for Jimmy and 2979 02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:23,920 Speaker 3: the Band and experimental six piece with an openly gay 2980 02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:27,480 Speaker 3: front man for their electricrine performances. The band was secretly 2981 02:26:27,760 --> 02:26:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean, was scheduled the headline our Lean's grocery next month, 2982 02:26:30,920 --> 02:26:32,840 Speaker 3: though that listing has since been removed. 2983 02:26:33,160 --> 02:26:38,120 Speaker 2: What y'all will stand freedom of speech? Uh? Yeah, I guess. 2984 02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:41,160 Speaker 2: The tweet said at Richard B. 2985 02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:45,400 Speaker 3: Spencer, your boy John neild dies, the community college professor 2986 02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:48,040 Speaker 3: and hypnotist who is in his spare time complete competes 2987 02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:50,680 Speaker 3: with Lil Wayne for most embarrassing guitar solos of all time? 2988 02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:53,000 Speaker 2: Did we mention he's in a band with a cross 2989 02:26:53,120 --> 02:26:55,280 Speaker 2: dragger dresser, a blag and a Jew. 2990 02:26:55,360 --> 02:26:56,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what a blag is, but all of 2991 02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:00,200 Speaker 3: it sounds racist to me right these Also, he was 2992 02:27:00,200 --> 02:27:04,560 Speaker 3: a hypnotherapy practice transformation out of Court Street building overlooking 2993 02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:07,920 Speaker 3: brooklyn Borough Hall. On his website The Deets method dot com, 2994 02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:11,000 Speaker 3: he refers to his services as hypnotists, counseling, and. 2995 02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:14,040 Speaker 2: The life coaching. Did think you take black customers? No, 2996 02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:20,080 Speaker 2: he knows that he received Maybe that's what hapen to Kanye. 2997 02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:23,359 Speaker 2: He knows that he received a master's in clinical psychology, 2998 02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:25,320 Speaker 2: but does not specify where. 2999 02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:28,600 Speaker 4: He earned his degree, the Umar Johnson School for Hot Temperary. 3000 02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:31,640 Speaker 3: We all know that a call to a number listed 3001 02:27:31,720 --> 02:27:34,000 Speaker 3: for Deeps was answered, but the voice hung up after 3002 02:27:34,040 --> 02:27:36,920 Speaker 3: identifying myself as a reporter. He also did not respond 3003 02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:40,759 Speaker 3: to email requests for comments, Oh you got everything. 3004 02:27:40,600 --> 02:27:46,200 Speaker 2: Saying your little podcast. Former colleagues and students money right. 3005 02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:49,160 Speaker 3: Former colleagues the students of Deep said they were hard 3006 02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:52,119 Speaker 3: fied to recognize the professor's face and chummy videos expensers 3007 02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:53,520 Speaker 3: and others white supremacists. 3008 02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Uh, Anthony Ella's sun dreaming. 3009 02:27:56,959 --> 02:27:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he wanted both ways, like he wanted to 3010 02:27:58,959 --> 02:27:59,840 Speaker 2: be on both sides. 3011 02:28:00,600 --> 02:28:02,760 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know what he teaches about it at school. 3012 02:28:03,000 --> 02:28:05,520 Speaker 3: He could be sliding in some supremacy in them lessons, Karen, 3013 02:28:05,920 --> 02:28:06,720 Speaker 3: don't sleep. 3014 02:28:06,920 --> 02:28:09,880 Speaker 2: Okay with his gay drummer and all them people. You 3015 02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:16,120 Speaker 2: just said to Cerl Marlow gay, Okay, you know what 3016 02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like they might. I mean they might not know, 3017 02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:22,280 Speaker 2: or they might know. That's what I'm saying. I'm assuming 3018 02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:25,920 Speaker 2: they don't, but yeah, they could know that strong. I 3019 02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:29,240 Speaker 2: hope they don't. I hope you're right. My ignorance, my 3020 02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:31,200 Speaker 2: innocence is going they they didn't know. 3021 02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:33,000 Speaker 4: I hope the gay dude is as shocked as the 3022 02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:33,560 Speaker 4: rest of us. 3023 02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:36,240 Speaker 3: But you just do not fucking know these days. I 3024 02:28:36,280 --> 02:28:39,640 Speaker 3: don't put nothing past nobody. Okay, he is playing, because 3025 02:28:39,680 --> 02:28:40,119 Speaker 3: that's a thing. 3026 02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:42,720 Speaker 2: Nobody knew what the college sound like, and so it 3027 02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:45,800 Speaker 2: sounds like these were like separate worlds. They just happened 3028 02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:49,320 Speaker 2: to collide because this dude put it up. Maybe, I hope. So, 3029 02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:53,320 Speaker 2: I hope you right, Karen, I hope I am too, because. 3030 02:28:53,080 --> 02:28:55,160 Speaker 4: You know he was out of podcasting for hours at 3031 02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:55,560 Speaker 4: the time. 3032 02:28:56,760 --> 02:28:57,600 Speaker 2: Uh so. 3033 02:28:58,280 --> 02:29:02,360 Speaker 3: Anthony Ellison Dreni, a professor in the English department of 3034 02:29:02,440 --> 02:29:05,160 Speaker 3: Kingsborough Community College, were called interacting with these multiple times 3035 02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:06,959 Speaker 3: in the way of the twenty sixteen election. Days after 3036 02:29:07,000 --> 02:29:11,680 Speaker 3: Trump's inauguration, Ellison Dreni shared tips on the faculty list 3037 02:29:11,720 --> 02:29:16,400 Speaker 3: sir about protecting cunis undocumented students. Please stop including me 3038 02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:19,040 Speaker 3: in these emails, these wrote back. For one, it's propaganda. 3039 02:29:19,080 --> 02:29:19,840 Speaker 2: For another, you're. 3040 02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:21,200 Speaker 4: Clogging my inbox with garbage. 3041 02:29:22,080 --> 02:29:26,800 Speaker 3: A spokesperson for Kingsborough Community College confirmed that these no 3042 02:29:26,879 --> 02:29:29,440 Speaker 3: longer teachers at the school, but refuse to provide editional 3043 02:29:29,440 --> 02:29:31,480 Speaker 3: information about why he was let go and how long 3044 02:29:31,520 --> 02:29:32,480 Speaker 3: he spent at the university. 3045 02:29:33,440 --> 02:29:36,920 Speaker 2: You can see how long, but reviews. 3046 02:29:35,959 --> 02:29:37,800 Speaker 3: Don't rate my professor indicator. He taught that as far 3047 02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:38,640 Speaker 3: back as twenty twelve. 3048 02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know they ain't got to tell you that. 3049 02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:44,160 Speaker 2: That's they quote unquote internal investigation. 3050 02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:46,879 Speaker 3: According to a sense the lead at LinkedIn page, These 3051 02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:51,000 Speaker 3: has also lectured at Brooklyn College or College, Queensborough Community College, 3052 02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:54,720 Speaker 3: Maker Evers College, what at New York City College with 3053 02:29:54,879 --> 02:29:59,200 Speaker 3: Technology inquiring about to those schools were not inqueries were 3054 02:29:59,240 --> 02:30:00,000 Speaker 3: not immediately returned. 3055 02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:04,600 Speaker 2: Yo, Mega Ever's College for a real dog? What else 3056 02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:07,800 Speaker 2: is he talking? So? John? The truth of college? And 3057 02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:10,880 Speaker 2: that's why I think that they were two separate like 3058 02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:14,080 Speaker 2: this was actually just two separate worlds, and he didn't 3059 02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:15,920 Speaker 2: ever think they were going to going to collide until 3060 02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:18,480 Speaker 2: this happened, and then everybody was like, the fuck. I 3061 02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:19,840 Speaker 2: might be wrong, but nah, you might. 3062 02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:21,720 Speaker 3: Nah, I think you're right, because that's I mean, as 3063 02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:24,120 Speaker 3: I'm reading this, that sounds like you wouldn't invite him 3064 02:30:24,120 --> 02:30:25,080 Speaker 3: if you knew he was on that. 3065 02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:29,920 Speaker 2: Man Mega Ever's College for real? You know what he 3066 02:30:29,959 --> 02:30:33,360 Speaker 2: gotta do, Karen, what he got a live say? He 3067 02:30:33,480 --> 02:30:36,080 Speaker 2: was infiltrating the white supremacists, not the other way around. 3068 02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:39,640 Speaker 2: That's how you get out of this. I was writing 3069 02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:43,520 Speaker 2: a book. I was researching white supremacy and it's called 3070 02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:47,320 Speaker 2: I Infiltrated the alt Right. Okay, so that's what the 3071 02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:48,959 Speaker 2: next podcast is gonna be a. 3072 02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:51,360 Speaker 3: Supposed person for say Francis College, where DCE was listens 3073 02:30:51,400 --> 02:30:53,240 Speaker 3: and employee directory until Friday Morning. 3074 02:30:53,400 --> 02:30:54,560 Speaker 4: What happened Friday Morning? 3075 02:30:55,120 --> 02:30:55,520 Speaker 2: Said that. 3076 02:30:57,280 --> 02:30:59,520 Speaker 3: Said that he last hot there in fall twenty eighteen 3077 02:30:59,640 --> 02:31:02,720 Speaker 3: and when not returns an instructor in the future further 3078 02:31:02,840 --> 02:31:05,720 Speaker 3: questions when not answered, I'm shocked at it happened, and 3079 02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm shocked at there is and more of a response. 3080 02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:10,920 Speaker 3: The reaction seems more about ass covering and take responsibility, 3081 02:31:10,959 --> 02:31:14,200 Speaker 3: said Alison Drini, who noted that Kingsboro is a. 3082 02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:17,800 Speaker 4: Majority non white school. Fuck students are aware of. 3083 02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:20,320 Speaker 3: This, and if they're not hearing about it from that college, 3084 02:31:20,600 --> 02:31:22,560 Speaker 3: what messages being sent to them? You know, he was 3085 02:31:22,600 --> 02:31:25,440 Speaker 3: turning in the motherfucking anybody a documentary. 3086 02:31:25,440 --> 02:31:28,200 Speaker 2: Probably was like, don't put me on this list unless 3087 02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:31,080 Speaker 2: you find some then I'm gonna protect them real good. 3088 02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:36,800 Speaker 4: So you send me the names one of those c 3089 02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:39,080 Speaker 4: c Ice. Why you see seeing Ice on the emails? 3090 02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:42,120 Speaker 6: Huh? What uh? 3091 02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:42,840 Speaker 2: One of these? 3092 02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:45,600 Speaker 3: One of those students was Joscelyn alex Is, an undergraduate 3093 02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,080 Speaker 3: at York County and Queens who learned his online identity 3094 02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:50,600 Speaker 3: through a Facebook post Thursday night. She said she took 3095 02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,160 Speaker 3: an intermediate psychology class on maturity and adolescents from him 3096 02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:54,720 Speaker 3: last ring. 3097 02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:57,800 Speaker 2: It's scary and bizarre. York is like eighty. 3098 02:31:57,640 --> 02:32:00,680 Speaker 3: Percent black, Alexis wrote in a message to Gothams Honestly, 3099 02:32:00,840 --> 02:32:02,840 Speaker 3: nothing stands out about him, and I can tell. 3100 02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,240 Speaker 2: You he seemed pretty normal. Wow. 3101 02:32:05,560 --> 02:32:08,960 Speaker 3: He wasn't even saying wow, Karen, You're right. He wasn't 3102 02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:10,640 Speaker 3: even sliding into his lectures or nothing. 3103 02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:14,640 Speaker 2: I rually do think he was living too, because that's 3104 02:32:14,720 --> 02:32:18,080 Speaker 2: that's the that's the privilege of being white. Until the 3105 02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:21,039 Speaker 2: Jananapolis was, you know, till they had the all right 3106 02:32:21,120 --> 02:32:24,280 Speaker 2: on alt right violence, nobody, nobody would have known. They 3107 02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:25,840 Speaker 2: must have caught slipping at some point. 3108 02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:30,440 Speaker 3: Guys, don't don't forget. We don't have class. Next Mondays, 3109 02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:31,080 Speaker 3: Martin Luther. 3110 02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:31,520 Speaker 2: Coon Jr. 3111 02:32:32,120 --> 02:32:35,600 Speaker 3: King Junion, your day, Just see you guys Monday, Bye, 3112 02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:40,200 Speaker 3: and conversation on this on his shows. These occasionally first 3113 02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:43,040 Speaker 3: to his own path towards white nationalism. He started as 3114 02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:46,280 Speaker 3: a traditional conservative, so he was already white nationalists. Then 3115 02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:49,440 Speaker 3: he became involved in men's white circles, writing that sounded 3116 02:32:49,480 --> 02:32:52,560 Speaker 3: like that whole went deeper, writing for a Return of Kings, 3117 02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:58,000 Speaker 3: that pick up artist's website. White nationalism and womanizing hand 3118 02:32:58,080 --> 02:33:00,080 Speaker 3: in hand, and the self publishing. 3119 02:32:59,800 --> 02:33:05,200 Speaker 2: As the next one is a sea signer for something else, 3120 02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:07,000 Speaker 2: bashing women dot Com, a. 3121 02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:09,760 Speaker 3: Self publishing book bill that's politically a correct god to 3122 02:33:09,879 --> 02:33:13,199 Speaker 3: dating is what he did after that, he self published. 3123 02:33:12,879 --> 02:33:16,280 Speaker 2: That he published Misogyny dot com. He was once a 3124 02:33:16,360 --> 02:33:18,680 Speaker 2: fan of Gavin McGinnis, the Proud Boys founder, but over 3125 02:33:18,760 --> 02:33:21,120 Speaker 2: time to come to regard that strand of the all 3126 02:33:21,320 --> 02:33:24,760 Speaker 2: Right as too moderate, Oh too moderate. 3127 02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:28,480 Speaker 3: Speaking with Spencer, he frequently describes the path to building 3128 02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:31,360 Speaker 3: power for our little community in the years to come, 3129 02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:35,240 Speaker 3: we need to make being white and have a family 3130 02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:37,920 Speaker 3: and believing it's something beautiful again. He declared on the 3131 02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:40,600 Speaker 3: episode for earlier this year, the Alright is the last 3132 02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:43,760 Speaker 3: stop on the train. We'll be here with orange wide open. 3133 02:33:45,400 --> 02:33:47,480 Speaker 3: And he also goes on and say Dark Knight, that's 3134 02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:53,760 Speaker 3: better than Black Panther. Wow, No one even ask bro, 3135 02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:55,680 Speaker 3: what did that quote come from? 3136 02:33:55,879 --> 02:33:57,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know. 3137 02:33:57,240 --> 02:34:00,920 Speaker 3: That's an article that's crazy to me too, Karen good grief. 3138 02:34:24,400 --> 02:34:26,360 Speaker 3: Can you imagine being the kind of person that agrees 3139 02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:26,600 Speaker 3: with that. 3140 02:34:28,080 --> 02:34:28,520 Speaker 2: Anyway? 3141 02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:35,840 Speaker 3: Guilty plead in Los La Messa Sword Slain cold case, 3142 02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:39,560 Speaker 3: an Oregon man who fairly stabbed a Lo Messa resident 3143 02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:41,840 Speaker 3: multiple times with the sword in two thousand and six 3144 02:34:42,200 --> 02:34:45,000 Speaker 3: pleaded guilty Whizday to a voluntary man slaughter of charge. 3145 02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Zachary Bunny, thirty nine, is slated to be sentenced to 3146 02:34:49,200 --> 02:34:52,440 Speaker 3: a dozen years in state prison on December eighteenth for 3147 02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:57,280 Speaker 3: a slaying of forty seven year old Scott Martinez, who 3148 02:34:57,520 --> 02:34:59,560 Speaker 3: was killed in his apartment. 3149 02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:03,200 Speaker 2: June seventeen, two thousand and six. 3150 02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:06,440 Speaker 3: Prosecutors have not disclosed a motive for the Sland Northern 3151 02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:08,119 Speaker 3: men's connections to one another. 3152 02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:13,440 Speaker 2: At the investigator said the case went closed cold. They 3153 02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:16,320 Speaker 2: submitted a DNA left to the crime scene for genetic 3154 02:35:16,400 --> 02:35:20,040 Speaker 2: genealogy testing, leading to his arrest in Oregon. 3155 02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:22,160 Speaker 4: So they got him through like twenty three AE million 3156 02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:25,480 Speaker 4: or some shit. M he is white by the way. 3157 02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:28,240 Speaker 4: All right, y'all, that's it. We'll be back tomorrow. Thank 3158 02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:29,200 Speaker 4: you so much for listening. 3159 02:35:29,400 --> 02:35:32,200 Speaker 3: We uh had a good time other than you know, 3160 02:35:32,320 --> 02:35:34,280 Speaker 3: the first hour and a half of the show. And 3161 02:35:34,480 --> 02:35:36,840 Speaker 3: I hope you guys enjoyed this long episode until then. 3162 02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:38,480 Speaker 2: I love you. I love you too. Yeah,