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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. I'm

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Speaker 2: Channel Room along with Tyler Stafford and Tyler. We are

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Speaker 2: ten days away from opening day. Can you believe it?

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Speaker 3: I cannot. It's uh, it's quick. But also I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's get this thing rolling.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people that are ready,

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Speaker 2: judging by how these great games are being played, I

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Speaker 2: think the regulars are very ready to go against someone

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Speaker 2: else in games that matter. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that are ready to kind of move on

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Speaker 2: and that spring training is way too long. We did

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Speaker 2: find out today. We're recording this on Sunday night. In

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Speaker 2: the biggest shock to hit Astros Baseball in many years,

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Speaker 2: Farmer Valdez is going to start on Opening Day against

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Speaker 2: the Mets. Tyler, I know you are stunned by this news.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a couple I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give you a couple of minutes to collect your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on that scoop.

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Speaker 2: Way to go, Yeah, huge scoop. You know this is

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Speaker 2: going to get me the promotion I so desire. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to become a national insider because I knew from

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Speaker 2: the beginning that frombervel Does was going to start an

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Speaker 2: opening day for the Astros. But in all seriousness, I

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Speaker 2: think when we knew this was coming foregone conclusion. But

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Speaker 2: I think whenever, we shouldn't take for granted the rise

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Speaker 2: that from bervel Does has had in this organization. I mean, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember when he came up

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Speaker 2: like in twenty nineteen, like he was unpitchable. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: kept him on the big league roster solely so he

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Speaker 2: could like eat up innings in games that they were

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Speaker 2: winning by a lot of runs or losing by a

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Speaker 2: lot of runs. The maddest I think I ever saw

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Speaker 2: Aj Hinch and his managerial tenure of the Astros was

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Speaker 2: after a game in Anaheim in twenty nineteen where Fromber

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Speaker 2: just went out there and got absolutely lit up. And

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Speaker 2: some poor reporter was filling in for a beat writer

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Speaker 2: that didn't travel, and they asked Aj after the game,

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Speaker 2: like what this experience could do for fromber when he

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Speaker 2: gets another chance in the rotation, and AJ just responded with,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to get another chance.

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Speaker 2: Was as curt as he could be. And AJ's a

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Speaker 2: very nice man, but you could tell he had enough.

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Speaker 2: And now this is a guy that this is gonna

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Speaker 2: be his fourth consecutive opening day start, the most consecutive

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Speaker 2: opening day starts in Astro's history by a left handed pitcher.

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Speaker 2: This is a guy that has come such a long way,

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Speaker 2: and to think of him now is just this sure thing,

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Speaker 2: this ace atop the rotation. It's pretty remarkable to see

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Speaker 2: his trajectory and where he's come from and where he

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Speaker 2: is at now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you said, you kind of take

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Speaker 3: it for granted, but like you know, there are there

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Speaker 3: are lots of teams announcing their opening day starters that

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Speaker 3: you don't necessarily feel nearly as good as as Fromber.

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Speaker 1: I did laugh at did you see the Pirate? It's

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Speaker 1: video that was like.

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Speaker 3: We filmed telling Paul Skeens that he was going to

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Speaker 3: be the opening day starter, and everyone was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: who else, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Why was there?

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Speaker 3: Imagine if the Astros posted like an emotional video showing

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Speaker 3: them telling Fromber that he was going to be the

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Speaker 2: It's a video that really could have been an email.

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Speaker 2: They could have just or Livy Dunn whoever answers Paul

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Speaker 2: Skins his emails at this point, email one of them

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Speaker 2: and let them know that Paul skin is going to

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Speaker 2: start an opening day You mentioned that there are teams

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Speaker 2: that are announcing their opening day stars that don't feel

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Speaker 2: as confident. Look at who Frombervell Does will oppose on

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Speaker 2: opening Day. Clay Holmes is the Mets opening day starter.

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Speaker 2: Clay Holmes? Is that true? Yes, Clay Holmes.

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Speaker 1: Clay Holmes.

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Speaker 2: Clay Holmes has not started a Major League baseball game

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Speaker 2: in eight years. That rules what I mean. It's look,

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Speaker 2: they've had to have a lot of stuff go wrong.

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Speaker 2: Frankie Moltoss and Sean and I are or her code

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Speaker 2: I Singa is an enigma. And so now, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: start opposite Frombervell Does on opening Day. So again, I

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Speaker 2: think Astros fans honestly should not take this for granted

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Speaker 2: that you have come into camp that you knew who

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Speaker 2: that your opening day starter did not get hurt during camp,

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Speaker 2: and that he will take the mound on opening Day. Uh, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be a very obvious question,

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Speaker 2: but we both believe that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: the last opening day start for Frombervell does correct.

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Speaker 1: As an as an uniform.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's gonna Yeah, I mean, I just as

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Speaker 3: we've talked about that. I just there's no way that

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Speaker 3: to command on the open market. And so yeah, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna enjoy it. He's a He's a fun pitcher

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Speaker 3: to watch. He's one of those that it's always interesting

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Speaker 3: even when it's bad. You know, there's always just something

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Speaker 3: fun about watching From or pitch very aesthetically using pitch

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Speaker 3: mixed too. You know, everything moves so much that it

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'm gonna enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: It's been fun to watch him, like, you know, he

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Speaker 2: used to get so emotional after you know, misstrike calls

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Speaker 2: or like ground balls that don't get fielded behind him.

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Speaker 2: He used to be so demonstrative in showing his emotions,

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Speaker 2: and he really has done a better job of raining

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Speaker 2: that in. But it is funny to watch him like

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Speaker 2: catch himself raining them in, like when like when an

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Speaker 2: umpire squeezes him, or like when there's not a play

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Speaker 2: want to get mad, and then he'll just catch himself

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Speaker 2: and you'll see him smile. And I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of people have wondered why that is, But as has

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Speaker 2: been written and talked about extensively, Fromber has worked a

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Speaker 2: lot with doctor Andy Nuniez, who's the Astro's Team psycho

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Speaker 2: team sports psychologists based in the Dominican Republic, And that's

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Speaker 2: part of their lessons and that's part of treatments, not

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Speaker 2: procedure of how they tone themselves down is to kind

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Speaker 2: And so when you see from Or smiling while things

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Speaker 2: are going haywire around him, it's not because he's enjoying it.

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Speaker 2: It's because that's kind of how he's been taught to

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Speaker 2: handle his emotions. And Tyler, I think this is a

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Speaker 2: very clearly in him as far emotions wise, Like, yes,

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Speaker 2: some innings will still snowball on him. There's some stuff

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Speaker 2: even some people in the ASTRAS organization. But by and large,

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Speaker 2: this guy has found a way to control his emotions,

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Speaker 2: control himself, and become one of the most Like you said,

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Speaker 2: he's a fun pitcher to watch pitch, And you don't

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Speaker 2: say that about a lot of pictures because they just

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Speaker 2: kind of make it look pretty boring.

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Speaker 3: He's fun to watch, yeah, I mean yeah, like we

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Speaker 3: we've been saying, I mean he's he's grown a ton.

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Speaker 1: I mean he used to be like, oh, if the

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Speaker 3: Gets a couple of hits in a row, Robber might

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Speaker 3: spiral and and those really happen pretty rarely now, and

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Speaker 3: not let it get out of hand. But yeah, good

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Speaker 3: for him, congrats and uh, let's let's get opening day here.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. He will face a very formidable lineup

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Speaker 2: on opening Day with Juan Soto pretty good, pretty good player.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of him?

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Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, pretty good player. He will face Juan Soto,

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Speaker 2: Mark Fiantos, Peter Alonzo, Brett Bady. Very good Mets lineup.

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Speaker 2: As far as who is playing behind fromber that is

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Speaker 2: Some guys are really doing a nice job of making

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Speaker 2: this a difficult decision for the astros of who to

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Speaker 2: had some interesting thoughts recording this on Sunday night. It's

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Speaker 2: All right, Tyler. This week and Great Fruit League play,

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Speaker 2: we finally have gotten to see Jose Al two ve

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Speaker 2: get some some pretty legitimate tests in left field. He

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Speaker 2: but there were two this week that kind of made headlines.

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Speaker 2: One for more unsavory reasons than the other. Against the

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Speaker 2: the first bat, first bat of the game, Francisco Lindor

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Speaker 2: that's something you don't know unless you're out there playing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm okay with him now running into a

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Speaker 2: And another thing you know I heard as well, and

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Speaker 2: And I think you're starting to see that, and it's

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Speaker 1: I don't play.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy baseball, but I feel like with the position change,

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Speaker 3: As far as line the lineup today looked pretty good.

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Speaker 2: large enough and representative enough sample size that this guy

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Speaker 2: deserves at least a chance to see if he can

437
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Speaker 2: turn it around.

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Speaker 1: I have a thought, hear me out.

439
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Speaker 3: Okay, so the outfield is overcrowded, right, Cam Smith can

440
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Speaker 3: only play the corners. What if you took your starting

441
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Speaker 3: left fielder and put him at a position where he

442
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Speaker 3: actually won a Gold Glove at one point. What if

443
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Speaker 3: you took Jose Altuve and put him at second base

444
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 3: where he has some experience, and then you can have

445
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Speaker 3: Cam Smith in the outfield.

446
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Speaker 1: What do you think?

447
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Speaker 2: I don't disagree, but like we're a week away, We're

448
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Speaker 2: basically a week and a half away from opening day,

449
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Speaker 2: and they're not playing joseel two bay at second base

450
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Speaker 2: at all. Like I mean, we just talked about.

451
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Speaker 3: It, like maybe we need to tell them maybe if

452
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Speaker 3: you could sneak that along, Like, hey, guys, did you

453
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Speaker 3: remember actually al Tuova used to play second base. He

454
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Speaker 3: could try that again.

455
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the worst idea in the world.

456
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Speaker 2: And look, maybe if they get or baby, maybe if

457
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Speaker 2: they get into the season and al Tuove is worse

458
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Speaker 2: than we anticipated in left field and Chas McCormick's not

459
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Speaker 2: getting it done in right field, or quite frankly, Chas

460
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Speaker 2: McCormick could be hitting well. Chas McCormick could play left field.

461
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Speaker 2: If Josel two Bay is not playing well in left field,

462
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Speaker 2: if they see people are running all over them, maybe

463
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Speaker 2: they do make that move. And Cam Smith's crushing it

464
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Speaker 2: in the minor leagues, maybe they do make that move

465
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Speaker 2: and you have an outfield of McCormick, Myers and Smith.

466
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Speaker 2: Maybe that is the case. But I think Tyler, you know,

467
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Speaker 2: the one thing about this whole thing, and maybe I

468
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Speaker 2: just read my mentions too much on Twitter. Maybe I

469
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Speaker 2: read my emails too much. Like everyone is acting like

470
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Speaker 2: like the opening day roster is this permanent, like set

471
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Speaker 2: in stone, Like, guys, you can make roster moves, like

472
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Speaker 2: even if camp Smith, even if Cam Smith or Zach

473
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Speaker 2: Dezenzo don't make the opening day roster, Like that's not

474
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Speaker 2: some indictment that says they're ticketed for Triple A or

475
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Speaker 2: Double A all year.

476
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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, someone's pulling the squad six games into the season,

477
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Speaker 3: and you know, like and there's there's plenty of time

478
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Speaker 3: to bring people up. But it is I I mean,

479
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Speaker 3: I think it's again. It's just it's so unexpected, and

480
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Speaker 3: it's so exciting to have somebody that you had no expectations.

481
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Speaker 3: I mean, a steamed beat writer Channa Roam said he

482
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Speaker 3: had no chance. He was like, Cam Smith is terrible.

483
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Speaker 3: He's got no chance to make the team. Don't even

484
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Speaker 3: bother paying attention and this guy. And meanwhile, I'm telling

485
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Speaker 3: everybody I think this guy's good. So we'll have to

486
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Speaker 3: see who's right.

487
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Speaker 1: Chandler, I think it.

488
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's set the record trade. I said it

489
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Speaker 2: would have to take something catastrophic for Cam Smith to

490
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Speaker 2: make the opening day roster, and Christian Walker almost training

491
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Speaker 2: his oblique would have quantified as catastrophic. But I do wonder, though,

492
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Speaker 2: you know, Zach Dezenzo has kind of maybe gone under

493
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Speaker 2: the radar a little bit because everyone has been talking

494
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Speaker 2: about Cam Smith twenty four to seven. Like Zach Dezenzo

495
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Speaker 2: very quietly has a thousand ops in a team high

496
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Speaker 2: thirty five grape Fruit League at bats like they're playing

497
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Speaker 2: him a lot because they want to see what he

498
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Speaker 2: can do, and he is producing in every turn. But

499
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Speaker 2: he has the same problem as Cam Smith. They're basically

500
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Speaker 2: the same player defensively, like they are natural left side

501
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Speaker 2: of the infield guys that are learning to play the

502
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Speaker 2: corner outfield. And Dezenzo played more corner outfield in Puerto

503
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Speaker 2: Rico in winter ball this winter, so like he's got

504
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: more outfield experience than Smith, but he's certainly not a

505
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: finished product out there, but he can. He's probably more

506
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Speaker 2: equipped to handle it at the major league level than

507
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: than Smith is at this moment. If we're talking about

508
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: getting every day at bats somewhere, and you know, I

509
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: wonder too what that means for let's let's let's proceed

510
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: under the opinion that that Cam Smith doesn't make the

511
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Speaker 2: opening day roster and Zach Decenzo doesn't make the opening

512
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Speaker 2: day roster, and they kind of go with Chalk the

513
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: carry Ben Gamble, they carry John Singleton, whoever else who

514
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Speaker 2: cares at this point. Now, the fascinating thing to me

515
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: would be, how do you divide minor league at bats

516
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Speaker 2: between those guys When they are playing, they need to

517
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: be playing the same positions, Like inherently, it kind of

518
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: means one guy would be blocking the other one from

519
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: getting at bats at a minor league affiliate. So and

520
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Speaker 2: I kind of speculating about this in a story I

521
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: wrote on Sunday, Like, I wonder if that situation manifests.

522
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: Does Zach Dezenzo go to Triple A where he can

523
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Speaker 2: have the freedom to play both corners, play some third base?

524
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Speaker 2: And do you send Cam Smith to double A where

525
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 2: the pitching in double A is better than it is

526
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Speaker 2: in Triple A? That is just that is now a

527
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: thing that has become pretty commonly known in the last

528
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Speaker 2: five years. Just there are better prospects and better pitching.

529
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Speaker 2: You see better pitching in Double A normally than you

530
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Speaker 2: do in Triple A. Camp Smith's only played five games

531
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Speaker 2: in Double A in his career. Do you send Cam

532
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Speaker 2: Smith to double A let where he'll have more freedom

533
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Speaker 2: to do whatever he wants, like move him around wherever

534
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: they want to move him defensively, and then you know,

535
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Speaker 2: if he's hitting five hundred within the first three weeks,

536
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Speaker 2: you can move them to Triple A and you guys

537
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: kind of make do there and then you you kind

538
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Speaker 2: of go from there. Like that's kind of my thought too,

539
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: is this could they're two fates, Zach Dezenzo and Cam

540
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Speaker 2: Smith's fates to me are kind of intertwined, just given

541
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Speaker 2: how similar their defensive profiles are and how much they're

542
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Speaker 2: blocked at the major league level from playing the infield

543
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: because Estak Paratus is here for three years, Christian Walker's

544
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 2: here for three years. Like they're not playing a corner

545
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: out a corner infield spot anytime soon. Like their easiest

546
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Speaker 2: and quickest path to getting in the big leagues in

547
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Speaker 2: a corner outfield spot.

548
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like everyone talked about after the Astros

549
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: lost Kyle Tucker and Alex Bregman, and it's the Astros

550
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: have too much talent in the outfield and then the

551
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Speaker 3: corner infield spots. How are they going to manage all

552
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Speaker 3: of this glut of talent? So it's interesting how quickly

553
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Speaker 3: things change.

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Speaker 2: Well, And one other thing about this too, Like you

555
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: we were being facetious there, like they don't have a

556
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: ton behind these two guys. They are for all intents

557
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: and purposes, like Zach Zenzo and Cam Smith are probably

558
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: like the Astros last line of position player defense depth wise,

559
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: for when things go haywire in season, for when there's ineffectiveness,

560
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: for when there's injuries anything like that, Like you do

561
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: run the risk, like if you carry either of those

562
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: guys on the opening day roster, like you a you

563
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: burn through your last line of defense, and b you

564
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Speaker 2: run the risk of, like if Cam Smith or's Ac

565
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Desenzo starts a year in the big leagues and like

566
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: they start terribly if they have a bad April or

567
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: a bad May, and like you risk cratering their confidence.

568
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: Like I think both of these kids have great makeups

569
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: and they they wouldn't be that affected by that. But

570
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: like you always run that risk of, like do you

571
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Speaker 2: want to jeopardize that set up to where look, you

572
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: let Chas McCormick play the first six to seven weeks

573
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: of the season out, see how it goes, and then

574
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Speaker 2: you kind of hope those two guys are tearing it

575
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: up in the minor leagues and if they force your hand,

576
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: they force your hand and then you call him up.

577
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of what ifs here, But I

578
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: think that the gist of it, Tyler, is like they

579
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: are not carrying either of these guys if there is

580
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: not a path to every day at bats for them,

581
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: and until they decide if they can create that path,

582
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: then this conversation's kind of meaningless because they're not going

583
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Speaker 2: to carry them as bench players.

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Speaker 3: All right, give me some injury updates where are we

585
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: at with Christian Walker and mccullors.

586
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Speaker 2: Okay, so Christian Walker is going to get into games

587
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: this coming weekend. We're recording this on Sunday night. He's

588
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: going to get into games this coming weekend. According to

589
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: Joe Aspata, They're going to get him some live at

590
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: bats on the backfields and the live BPS before that

591
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: to get his bat count up. But the thing you

592
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: should know about all this is Joe Aspata is confident

593
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Speaker 2: that he will be ready for Opening Day. They will

594
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Speaker 2: have him on the active roster. Now, he may be

595
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: attacked a tad behind. His time may may not be

596
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: great because he may not get the amount of volume

597
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: of at bats that he wanted to in spring training.

598
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: But the fact that he will be healthy enough to

599
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: play on opening Day again, barring any setback in the

600
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: next week and a half, is good news for the Astros.

601
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Lance mccullor's junior will return to the mound, which is

602
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: not a sentence that we ever thought we'd say. Again,

603
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Lance will pitch. He will start Tuesdays Great for a

604
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: league game against the Washington Nationals. It is conveniently going

605
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: to be televised on the Space City Home network, so

606
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: everyone can watch Lance mccullor's make his first start since

607
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: Game three of the twenty twenty two World Series, a

608
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: game that we will not rehash any uh in any

609
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: detail to save you from listening to that. Don't expect

610
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: Lance to go any more than about if he goes

611
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: two innings. I'd be surprised. This is a This is

612
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: he is starting his build up, and most starters their

613
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: first start in spring training is only an inning or

614
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: two thirty to thirty five pitches, one or two innings.

615
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Speaker 2: Whatever he hits first, Tyler like, there's not going to

616
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: be much we can gain out of a thirty pitch start.

617
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: Out of a two inning start, he will face I

618
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: presume most of the Nationals regulars, So it'll be nice

619
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Speaker 2: to see him, you know, face actual competition in cj Abrams,

620
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: James Wood, Dylan Cruz, Josh Bell. It'll be nice to

621
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Speaker 2: see that. People on the Nationals. Do you know how

622
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Speaker 2: much Nationals Baseball have to watch in spring training?

623
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Speaker 3: Okay, man, that's that's too many Nationals. And when you

624
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Speaker 3: said national regulars, I thought that was a joke that

625
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: they had regulars.

626
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Speaker 2: Do you know how much Marlins and Nationals Baseball have

627
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: to watch in spring training dream Right there, I get

628
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: way too involved and familiar with teams that should not

629
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: be familiarized with any one.

630
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: And then you have to read on Twitter people complaining

631
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: about how bad the Astros are, and you're right, I've

632
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: seen bad out here.

633
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: Like watch the Marlins play, like you think the Astras

634
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: are bad, watch the Marlins play.

635
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Speaker 1: No, thank you, Matt.

636
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: There's not going to be much that we can really

637
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: substantially gain from watching mc colors in a one inning

638
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: grape Fruit League start, but getting out of it healthy

639
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: will obviously be key.

640
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, what what is that timeline then?

641
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: Like I mean, is he just like a month behind

642
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: people who started spring training build up earlier? Is this

643
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: like a end of April early May thing? If if

644
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: everything goes smoothly.

645
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Speaker 2: Well, so he's going to make a start on Tuesday,

646
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: presuming he comes out of that, Okay, you would think

647
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: he's going to make a start five days later, which,

648
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: if I'm counting in my head right Wednesday, Thursday Friday,

649
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: that would be Sunday. That would be their last game

650
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: in West Palm Beach before they head to Houston for

651
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: two games against the Space Cowboys at DIYK in park

652
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: and then opening Day, so maybe he starts again on

653
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: Sunday and maybe you see him go you know, maybe

654
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: thirty five to fifty pitches, two to three innings, and

655
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: then they'd send him on a rehabit sign they'd start

656
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: him on a rehab assignment in sugar Land. And this

657
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: is where you can actually you will have a concrete

658
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: timeline because pitchers cannot stay on a rehab assignment for

659
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: more than thirty days, So a clock will start on

660
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: Lance mccullors once he officially goes on a rehab assignment.

661
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: If he makes two starts in in West Palm Beach,

662
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: in Grepe Fruit League play at the minimum, I think

663
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: he would need three more in sugar Land or in

664
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: where or in whatever minor league affiliate they send him to.

665
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: I think he'd need three more starts on rehab, maybe

666
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: even a fourth. That's kind of depending on how he feels.

667
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: But I think you're probably looking at again, if everything

668
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 2: goes right, if there's no setbacks, if there's no injuries,

669
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: if he feels good, I think you're probably looking at

670
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: the end of April early May, probably at the earliest

671
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: for him to come back, which again like seems pretty

672
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: far away. But for how much we have talked about

673
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: mc colors in the past, with no timeline, with no hope,

674
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: with no kind of thought he'd ever pitch again, to

675
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: have it now kind of set on a calendar to

676
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: where you can start mapping out and counting the days.

677
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: If you count five days between each start, you can

678
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: kind of start to pencil together kind of when he

679
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: could be back on a major league mount Man.

680
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: I hope he's healthy and he could pitch. I'm rooting

681
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: for it both as as someone who watches the Ashes,

682
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: but for Lance I want I want him to go

683
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: out and you know, results be what they may, but

684
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: I just want him to be able to do it

685
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: without his body betraying him. So I'm excited, Like like

686
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: you said, I can waste with the end of April

687
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: early May. That's that's not too bad. It feels like

688
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: a lot lifetime ago that we saw him pitch. So

689
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm excited.

690
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: To see it. Yeah, And I mean I may have

691
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: said this before, and I think you know as as

692
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: you see when you do what I do, like you

693
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: see these people like on a human human level, like

694
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: a lot of times fans and what they say, they

695
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: just kind of see what they are on TV, what

696
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: they are on social media, what they are in places,

697
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: and like it's tough for me to look at like

698
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: how fans have responded to Lance's many many setbacks. And look,

699
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: I get it's frustrating. I get he's making a lot

700
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: of money. I get it's been a pretty hillacious contract

701
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: to this point, but like this isn't like this is

702
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: a guy that's like showing up overweight, or that's not trying,

703
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: or that's dogging it, or it's not committed to this,

704
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Like I mean, his body has just betrayed him in

705
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: ways that few other we've seen in few other pitchers

706
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: and really in recent memory that have been with the Astros.

707
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and you know, I know there's people that

708
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: aren't really a fan of Lance kind of being out

709
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: there in other business ventures, whether it's in HIV commercials,

710
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, owns a chain of coffee shops

711
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: and restaurants. Now, like my retort would be, do you

712
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: want this guy to sit in a dark room and

713
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: just stare at blank walls for two years until he's

714
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: ready to pitch? Like, these guys are human beings. They

715
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: should be able to live their lives. They should be

716
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: able to do what they want to do. I understand

717
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: it's frustrating that he's not pitching for your favorite team,

718
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: but just maybe for Lance to, for lack of a

719
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: better word, to shut some people up, it would be nice,

720
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: It would be It would be gratifying, I think for

721
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: him to come back and to look I don't think

722
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: he has to have a sub three era. I don't

723
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: think we've been talking about stats here. But just to

724
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: come be healthy, pitching meaningful games, and contribute to this

725
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: team's trajectory, whatever it may be, I think would be

726
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: really gratifying for him.

727
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: I can't emphasize this enough to fans out there. There's

728
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: no salary cap in baseball. There's no such thing as

729
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: a bad contract.

730
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: You're not hang it. I don't, I don't.

731
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: I truly don't care what people are making, especially they're injured.

732
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: It's not like you said, It's not like, you know,

733
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: you sign somebody and they, like somebody on the Angels,

734
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: just decide, you know, they don't want to play anymore.

735
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: That's not what's happening.

736
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 3: That's a bad contract, and that's one that you can get,

737
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: you know, upset about but I mean, lanc earned every

738
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: penny of the contract they gave him. Made a ton

739
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: of sense at the time he got hurt. It happens, uh,

740
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: And commercials take like six hours to shoot in the

741
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: off season, so you just see it a bunch because

742
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: it keeps coming up on TV. But he you'll know

743
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: he's not in the box or he's not filming that

744
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: every time that it comes on your TV. They already

745
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: did it earlier.

746
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: I think that's lost in a lot of people.

747
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that that living little box on your wall.

748
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: You know, I think, and I've written this numerous times,

749
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: that Lance McCullers could never he could not throw it

750
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: another major league pitch. He could not throw another pitch

751
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: for the Astros, and his legacy in Houston is cemented

752
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: for what he did in Game seven of the twenty

753
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: seventeen ALCS. You could honestly even say when he came

754
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: back in twenty eighteen to help contribute in the postseason

755
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: when he had torn his UCL, he came back pitched

756
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: out of the bullpen in a couple of those playoff games,

757
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: and you know, look, you want to talk about a

758
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: guy that you question commitment, you question anything and you

759
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: should be like, that should be your foremost understanding that

760
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: this guy has always been committed. This guy is always trying.

761
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: It's just it's tough when your body just keeps betraying

762
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: you and the one thing you have to have healthy,

763
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: You're right armed, just you can't keep it healthy.

764
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: Remember when we had an RBI in the World Series.

765
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: That was cool.

766
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: He's got more World Series RBIs in Mike Trout.

767
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: I like that. That's a good one.

768
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: He's got more World Series RBIs than a lot of

769
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: good players. Zach Grinky too, Zach, we can have an

770
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: RBI in the World Series. He had a hit. I

771
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: do know he has more World Series hits than Mike Trout. Yeah,

772
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: he got to hit up the middle in one of

773
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: those games in Atlanta when no one else could get

774
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: a hit.

775
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

776
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: So we will see Lance mccullor's pitch on Tuesday. Who

777
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: knows who will be playing in the corner outfields behind him.

778
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: That's still up for debate. Cam Smith is going to

779
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: keep playing right field in Great Fruit League games and

780
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: we'll see if he can hit major league pitching, which

781
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: is probably one of the biggest questions to look at

782
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: in this last week or so of spring training, we

783
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: will be back to answer them all. We will have

784
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: Josh Reddick back on with us on Wednesday. Josh, I'm

785
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: curious to get Josh's thoughts because Josh was on the

786
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: Space City broadcast when Jose al Tuve had that play

787
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. So I'm interested to get Josh's thoughts

788
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: from a corner outfielder about that play, about what he's

789
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: seen now that he's gotten some looks at al Tuove

790
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: and live game reps. So we'll get that to you

791
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, But before then, if you want to rate

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