WEBVTT - Draft Show: Reviewing Dane's First Mock 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:09.520 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.479 the your war Room for in center news and draft 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.640 analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.680 the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:27.840 your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:29.840 welcome once again, did the Draft Show give you a 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:35.519 little early draft show? We get two this week. Bossons 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.120 are out of town, so they were nice enough to 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.040 let us have some fun and uh do some shows 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.720 back to back. Brian brought us here with Dane Burgler 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.640 from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:52.600 from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kent Garrison, Executive Producer. As always, gentlemen, 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.960 we're getting close twenty two days until we get to 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.920 do this for real. Who are very excited about that 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.640 as we're still just kind of trying to put things together. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.679 I mean, at this point we have a good idea 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:10.400 about these players who's in play where at this point 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.160 I don't think we really expect too many shockers or 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.520 you know, things we still have to learn or am 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.720 I wrong? It is something that maybe you still I'm 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.759 curious about that. Yeah, I'm curious about this medical stuff. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.679 Who in particular are you back McKinley, Moreau, those guys. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.759 I'm curious about some guys at twenty eight that are 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.440 nicked up, right. I just want to I just want 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.120 to know how the health of some of these guys 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.640 is going forward. I think it's going to tell you 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.280 which way this draft might go, especially early. If you 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.679 talk about McKinley the shoulder, you know how far along 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.880 is he is? He? You know, you're I've seen Dane, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.680 you've had him, and we'll get into your mock draft. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:53.520 By the way, we're gonna get into Dane. His last 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.200 mock draft I thought was very interesting. Usually your first 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.640 draft is really good, and your last draft is the 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.520 one you want to hit in all the awards. I 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.920 thought you did some interesting things. Some mock drafts for 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:09.680 four is to examine scenarios, possibilities. You know, the last 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.359 mock draft that's for accuracy. You're going for the award 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.000 right there. You're going for the t You're going for 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.720 the T shirt to beat Rick Goslin exactly. I have 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.040 one already. Yeah, I'd like to get another, but yeah, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:20.960 for the but the mocks right now, there were still 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.520 a few weeks out. Just look at different possibilities. What 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.160 could happen. I think you did that. Yeah, I think 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:27.520 you did that in the second half the show. We're 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.160 going to get into that first half the show here. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.960 I want to get into some draft news, some thoughts. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.400 We've got the thirty visits rolling. We'll get into that 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.880 LSU Pro day. It's one safety running incredibly fast. I'll 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.240 say thirty five. Yeah. I reached out to some people, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.680 hopefully they're at LSU's pro day. Some scout guys. Yeah, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.120 what do he four three seven or three eight or 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.480 three eight? Mal Adams? What do you think about that? 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.920 That's media reported. It's also very different than what scouts. Yeah, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.280 I reached out. We'll wait and get what officially scouts said. Yeah, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.560 why are you gonna hate on my guy Dan who Adams? Yeah, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.760 I'm just I'm with him. If if he ran a 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.000 four four two at the combine, that's a significant difference 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:17.720 to the point that I don't really Yeah, I'm not 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.160 buying with there. I'll tell you what. It's like what 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.600 I said last week. Boys, you like the player? Get 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.320 him at thirty eight yards? Yeah, stand there and click 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.640 that click that clock right there for thirty eight for Jamala, Like, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.040 did anybody need to see him run that? No? But 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.960 I mean it's one of those things. Yeah, this was 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.040 one of those things you're looking, you know, the measurables 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.480 and stuff like that. I expect him to run better 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.680 than four or five six. I mean he said that 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.000 that he tests a lot better than that, right, so 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.000 he was looking forward to the pro day to show 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.280 that he runs faster than a four or five six. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.680 I just don't think he's a four three athlete now. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.200 I think he could, you know, be a four four six, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.720 four four eight somewhere in there type of guy. And 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.760 that's plenty good for a player we project as a 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.800 strong safety. Yeah. See, And this is where I think 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.880 it's interesting, though, Dave. It's gonna be too safety. So 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.480 you're gonna go in the top ten in this draft, 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.960 maybe the top eight, And who do you like better 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.120 than two? We'll get to that five. Yeah, we'll get 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.200 to that. Well, I'll get into that a little bit 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.720 because Dane's mock draft will kind of tell you what 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.039 he thought that maybe some teams are thinking, Awesome, I 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.080 feel like I have a really good opinion on that matter. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.479 So I look forward to that. Yeah, that's so proper. Yeah, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.200 he really wanted to cuss you out for that. Good 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.479 about it. We're also going to get into some Twitter 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.080 on the twenty as always, make sure you get your 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.880 questions in at the draft show and Dave will be 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.479 able to answer those for you. Get to Dane. Since 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.560 we're doing the two back to back shows, we're gonna 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.039 save our staple of tell me more till tomorrow. Like 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.880 I said, I want to get into Dane's mock draft. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:50.920 But right now, these thirty visits that are going on 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.880 with teams, you know, we're kind of getting an idea. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.160 It's it's with the Twitter world. You really can't protect 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:02.279 your your visits too much. Kids will tweet they're visiting agents. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.640 You know, everybody seems to have an idea. And I 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.440 want to focus a little bit because we are the 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.480 Cowboys here, but you know, I'll take it to anywhere 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.440 but the Cowboys specifically. It looks like just if you 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.400 look at the lists, primarily it's defensive players, big time, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.119 big time defensive players, which is in a surprise now 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.320 number of corners. We talked about it last week on 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.080 the Draft show. I think we hit the number and 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.039 just yeah, ten or eleven, Yeah, I think we're I 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.679 think we hit that dead on defensive ends being another group, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.040 I think we expect that, you know, a third corners, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.360 a third pass rushers, then the last third a combination 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.640 of safeties, maybe a few offensive players sprinkled in there. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.000 That's what I want to get into. I want to 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.719 get into the offensive players. You know, we talk about 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.360 all these defensive players. We know the Cowboys need defense. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.279 You know, it's it's clear that they need they need corners. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.599 They you know, could surely use a defensive end to 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.080 the point where and safety. I see where you're going 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.279 with this. But I mean, you look at the names 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.240 that are out there, and it's and you can't predict 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.080 it to a certainty always, but it's hard to sit 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.080 there and say, I mean, it looks like their strategies 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.560 that they know they got to get some starter caliber 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.440 players with these first few picks. Yeah, like they know that, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.760 And that's what the list is. It's starter lubber players 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.440 that you can find at twenty eight and sixty on 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.080 the defensive side of the ball. And I honestly, I 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.279 think they're set up to where I don't know if 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.400 they're backed into a corner, but that is what they 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.120 need to the I mean, and I think that's when 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.479 you don't see a lot of offensive players floating around there, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.320 because they have set themselves up to where I don't 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.600 know how much they can afford to not address defense 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.800 with at least one of these first two picks. I 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.360 was thinking maybe the first three. I'm and noh, yeah, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.360 don't get me wrong, but I mean, you know, I'd 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.720 be stunned. I mean, that's what I've been preaching all along. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.760 But again, yeah, at least two. Okay, Well, all right, 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.720 let's talk about this then. Is there an office a player? 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:06.760 Is there an offensive player in the first three rounds 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.320 that would make you go away? You know? And and 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.600 let's let's be honest. I mean, there's a ton of 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:18.800 wide receivers. You know, there's some, there's some uh okay, well, 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 let's look at the running backs. I mean, I know, 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.800 running I mean they're gonna need they They're gonna probably 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.000 look at a running back. I would advise that they 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.960 do sure with you know, Terrence Williams back in the fold. Yeah, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.840 you know, how much of a need is wide receiver, 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.760 but would one have would would a stack? Would a 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.000 stack have a wide receiver? Would their stack have a 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.720 wide receiver? Over maybe a defensive player is you get 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.920 to a certain level of the defensive players and you 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.120 stop thinking about Okay, now it's not worth it to 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.600 take a defensive player at this spot because of the 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.000 stack the way it is. I think, you know, we 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.560 don't know obviously, but in order to dig a little bit, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.200 I think we'd look at the top thirty visit and see, okay, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.640 maybe what offensive guys are they looking at? And Dad 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.160 gives us a clue, and we know, I think it's 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.680 been it's been reported. You just Smith Schuster is one 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.800 of those names, uh, you know, a player who I 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.440 don't I'm waiting till the third round to take him. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.080 This team might view him as a late too. I 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.840 don't know. And that's and to Dane's point, you know, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.800 we talk about all the time. Mo Claiborne was the 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.120 last first round pick who did not visit the Cowboys, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.480 and that's because I mean he wasn't really even in 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.280 their range. They didn't I mean at fourteen, which is 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.520 where they were that year. He was not a very 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.880 viable option, So why would you spend a visit on him? 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.840 So now you're probably talking about you know, if an 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.319 offensive player is going to be the guy at twenty eight, 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.720 it's probably a guy that you're not even thinking about 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.240 because it seems implaus See. I think I asked some 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:54.640 people about Adams and Jamal Jamal Adams, Yeah, Adams and Hooker, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.160 you know, I asked him about I mean, their their 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.360 thought was they're not in our range, right, Yeah, they're 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.679 not in our range. There was Solomon Thomas any thing 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.760 with you know a lot of these top ten guys, right, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.280 And I'm well, I'm thinking off so offensively. I'm thinking, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.520 you know, how far down the board can Corey Davis's 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.120 foot push him? See Williams is another one, or Mike Williams. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.200 How yeah, that's that's now. Now you're starting to talk. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.760 And I like what you're saying about Smith Schuster. I 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.200 like with it because he is a visit, right, you know. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.040 And and this team, David, you've covered this team now. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.680 They don't bring guys in unless they're thinking about him. Yeah, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.320 I mean, this isn't just to get the kids from 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.599 frequent flyer Miles a hat. It's about as good of 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.760 a roadmap as you can ask for. I mean, the 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.839 last four years have really proven that in terms of 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.600 I mean getting an idea of what they're looking at, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.440 who they're who they're thinking about. You remember that the 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.680 private workouts, the visits, those are unlimited. Teams can do 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.400 as many as they want. But the top thirty, yeah, 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.680 those are strict thirty. That's it. You know, you you 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.080 better be bringing in players you're interested in. So if 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.160 Smith Schuster's come in here, there's obviously an interest level. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.160 To what extent you know, we don't know. Could it 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.040 be a you know, a player there possibly looking at 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.839 in the late second round? Maybe I don't know where, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.160 I mean, where does he fit on it? So you 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.520 you're talking about it, and I agree with you about 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.199 the about the third round. But but we've we've we've 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.440 tried to educate people that where you're picking in the 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.600 back end of a round, you might have to go 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.120 around early on a guy, right yeah. And so all 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.120 of a sudden that you're thinking, oh, well, we'll grab 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.199 him in the third, No you're not, because somebody will 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.800 take him early in the third and then you'll miss 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.679 out on him. And I think we also have to 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.640 consider possible trade back scenarios right where you know, they 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.040 get out of the first round and they trade back 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.200 and they get another Day two pick, or you know, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.480 and they pick up another third round or whatever the 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.760 trade compensation is would be awesome. Then all of a sudden, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.440 you have a few more options, and ju just miss 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.319 Schuster in the early third becomes much more of a 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.360 viable option. I like with Dane's going here. Teams with 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:07.760 multiple second round picks hit me, Carolina and Cleveland. Teams 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.400 with multiple third round picks Baltimore, Denver, Kansas City, Minnesota, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:18.920 New England, New Orleans, Jets, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tennessee. A 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.080 lot of teams I get that probably includes all the 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.480 comp picks. Yeah yeah, and you can trade him now 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:30.640 you trade those picks. Teams have multiple fourth round picks, Chicago, Cincinnati, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.360 by the way, Cincinnati's got a lot of picks, and 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.160 they won't do anything but sad there and pick you can't. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.720 You can't trade with Cincinnati. I've been trying to trade 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.199 with Cincinnati since nineteen ninety two. They haven't returned my 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.560 call yet. That's but people sit here and they're like, oh, 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.360 there's too many holes for them to fill with justin 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.040 the draft. Not not quite so fast, my friend. Yes, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:57.000 fourth round, fourth round, multiple fourth round picks, Chicago, Cincinnati, Houston, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:03.680 Indianapolis to Los Angeles, Rams, Minnesota, Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Washington. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.360 You want your fifth back, Dave? Yeah? I do you 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.679 want your fifth back? Dane? Give me more seconds and 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.319 third and I'm just saying, but you want your fifth back? Sure? 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.560 All right, here we go. I want I want it all. Yeah, multiples, Arizona, Buffalo, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.679 Cincinnati again, Mike Brown, I gonna take your call. I'm 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.120 just gonna let you know that Cleveland's in the mix here, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:27.319 Green Bay, Green bail trade, Kansas City will trade with you. Miami, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.000 New England and San Francisco, Ohio. Guy, where's Cleveland picking 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.800 in the second round? Like thirty thirty three? I got 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.000 that in front of me, Dave it get me, get 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.400 me from twenty eight to thirty three, like Cleveland wants 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.480 to Sean Kaiser, Get me gent let me drop back 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.760 five spots and pick up the next get that, get 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.319 that fifth year option for the quarterback. Let's do it. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.640 Get rule that out. I love it all right. Well, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.600 I went through all that, But we'll get back into 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.640 I mean, that's I love. I love when I want 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.320 multiple that's trade back, get me some picks. Okay, but 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.960 the let's talk about then we got the pick situation 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.360 we're tom about. Okay, you go back, but is there 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.800 any other in the other position I brought up running back? 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.839 Is there an Is there any of those running backs 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:11.000 that could do multiple things? Is there any running back 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.000 that they could bring in here that they could walk 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.360 through that door? That's that, but I'm worried you might 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.080 have to do it a little earlier again than you 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.439 want to do it. Two of them scream off the page, 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.600 had me, and I think you can name them about 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.440 the West Coast version, in the East coast version. Yeah, yeah, sure, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.040 the Midwest guy in the West Coast guy. I got you, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.920 And I think you tell everybody. Then you would have 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.680 to make either a Christian McCaffrey or a Curtis Samuel 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.760 a first round pick, if that's the way you wanted 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.560 to go. I think the Curtis Samuel at twenty eight, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.800 I to me, he is a player I would consider 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.760 in the first round. Now, I don't know how many 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.200 people other people share that sentiment, but I do think 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.120 he's a top fifty player. Oh so I'm hoping it's sixty, right, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.000 it's sixty. I'm not getting him. You're not hoping he's gone. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.920 I think there's a yeah, a very good chance that 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:02.440 he's gone. But maybe, you know, because this team needs 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.640 defense obviously, but maybe it's just one of those things 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.840 where if he's still there somehow there's a chance, then okay, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.800 then we take them there. But I'd be very surprised 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.880 they took him at twenty eight. Either one of them 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.959 could fill for would you take Samuel over a corner? 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:20.000 Is say you took say you got what what at 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.600 twenty eight? And we're and here I am preaching about 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.480 taking a defensive players and all that, I wouldn't whatever 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.240 you're about to say, I wouldn't do. You're not gonna 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.720 find many people who are bigger fans of Credit Samuel 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.960 than me. He's twenty fifth overall on my board, so 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.720 he's a first round pick on my board. But I 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.440 still feel good that there will be another player on 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.440 defense that's rated right there in that group available that 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.560 and I you know, and I'm jumping off the track 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.960 of the running back a little bit, but I was 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.560 gonna say this. Another guy that really intrigues me, who 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.600 I could see falling is I never say his name, right, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.240 I feel like you, but Ramshick, Ram check check, I 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.040 never say it right. That one I do get right. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.440 He's got the hip problem, right, I could conceivably see 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.720 him falling. And you know, maybe if you have a chance, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.240 Oh we'll get into that, if you have a chance 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.040 to take a guy that good at twenty eight. I 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.160 know you know, offensive line is not a big need, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.080 but you could talk me into that. But going back 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.880 to Dane's point, I just think there's gonna be enough 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.560 defensive firepower in this draft that you'd be hard pressed there, 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.120 like there will be a guy there that you want 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.760 on defense, and maybe really feel that this is another 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.840 trade back scenario where if you trade back into the 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.400 middle of the second round, Curtis Samuel becomes much more 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.160 of an option possibly. And okay, let's look at the 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.640 running back that chart right now. Zeke obviously in America 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.640 and McFadden's back on what a one year deal, right 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:44.920 and then in one year? Yeah, got benched last year, right? 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.840 And I think Alfred Morris, most people you know, believe 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.160 that it could be a possible cut, could be a trade. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.240 You know, there's no guarantee he's on the roster in July, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.080 so you know running back is a possibility. It's a 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.120 bigger boy. Would that dry people nuts that they took 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.720 Samuel though it's sixty, It would drive people nuts. I 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.880 couldn't he's your twenty fifth best player. Eight. Yes, it 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.800 would be the initial The initial reaction would be anger 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.680 and shock. And then I don't think it would take 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.560 long to talk people into it though, because first of all, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.760 your number one running back has been acting like a knucklehead. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.240 That's true, that's a thing to keep in mind. And 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.840 then you're we just no job security for your number 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.280 two or number three. And so if you were to 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.240 draft Curtis Samuel or Christian McCaffrey for that matter, he 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.520 can play running back, receiver, punt returner, and kick returner, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.920 all of which are things that you need. Curtis Samuel 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.200 had seventy four catches last year. Yeah, I mean he's 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.160 got a great route runner, but you hand him the 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.520 football and he'll have some drops, be like Lance Dunbar 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.240 if he actually got involved, right, And that's it was 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.880 Curtis Samuel some people want to move him on to 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.000 wide receiver for no. No, but he averaged seven point 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.400 nine yards per rush last Yes, keep him in, Yes, 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.600 I mean you can do. I don't know. This team 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.000 on offense isn't the most creative with theirs. That's fair. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.600 But if you're going to draft to Curtis Samuel, I 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.560 think you you need to be so the two offensive 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:12.000 players that we would like, and neither one of them could. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.760 It is possible really at sixty, which would be Smith 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:20.520 Schuster and Samuel. You don't think miss Schuster wud be 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.960 possible at sixty. It's more likely than Samuel. Yeah, I 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.880 agree it there, Okay, okay, but here's again, here's the point, though, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.960 Is he going to be better than is? You pick 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.560 your position, like I said, maybe it's tackle, maybe it's 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.160 running back, maybe it's receiver. Whatever, is the number one 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.760 player available at that position better than the third or 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.280 fourth option. Oh that's why you argued about OJ Howard 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.639 when he was Yeah, it's the same conversation. Maybe it is, David. No, no, no, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.879 it's the same argument you make. You take the first 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.199 best tied in right or the fourth best defensive in 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.920 Although theoretic I mean, Curtis Samuel wouldn't be the best 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.439 running back, no button cooking for an at are gone 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.240 and probably McCaffrey whatever. But I get your point. I'd 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.919 argue that in the first round, you just listen your 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.120 top twenty eight players and you're guaranteed at one of them. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:08.920 That's just kind of how you know, I mean, whether 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.040 that if it happens to be offense, if it happens 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.280 to be defense, you know, he would be shocked though, 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.359 if they took an offensive player at twenty eight. Here's 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.800 and Stephen Jones said this at the combine, and it 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.680 really stuck with me, which is that obviously you don't 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.000 want to reach for need. You want to take the 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.560 best player available, but when it's close, the guy that 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.720 you need looks a lot more interesting when it's a 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.160 close call. And that's what you know, all right, you're 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.240 a moros, a bad example because he's hurt right now, Okay, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.240 a guy that I really like a lot as an 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.960 option at twenty eight right now, Kevin King. Yeah, if 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.399 Kevin King is sitting there at twenty eight and like 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.119 Curtis Samuel's your next I mean, you're gonna take the 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.200 corner or you should yea, yeah, the stack will probably 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.439 show that well. And it's different when you're picking, by 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.480 the way, a visit to Kevin last year when tricking 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.680 top ten and the goals should be to find impact players. 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.919 Then this year when you're picking twenty eight, you know, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.720 and you're it's more about helping your football team. You know, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.240 right away with you know you could you could move 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.640 around a little bit with need you know it, taking 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.680 a need player over maybe someone you have a little 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.520 bit higher. You can do that at twenty eight. You 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.280 shouldn't do that at four. Let me ask you this 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.280 what the Cowboys have had terrible luck taken tight ends 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.080 in the second round. Yes, with Samuel be like the 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.639 tight end being taken and they don't use it the 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.359 right way. I'm much more confident that they would use 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.800 Curtis Samuel the right way because, good by Lucky Whitehead, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:34.920 he's so well, he's so versatile. Yeah, even if he's 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.320 just a return guy. But even I mean they have 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.560 Dorry Jackson's another visit here. They have shown I will 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.399 talk about him. Yeah, Samuel's more interests. Good point, just 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.480 for the reason that they have shown a willingness to 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.920 take Zeke off the field before they use They used 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.080 dunbar in two minutes and yeah, block situations. But much 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.120 to everybody's just okashing of teeth, I think it would 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:56.720 be a little bit different with this guy. He's a 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.960 little bit better, I think, yeah, and then better. They 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.520 rotated more McFadden in every third series or whatever it was, 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.640 so they have shown a willingness to take Zeke off 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.760 the field, and I think with a guy as dynamic 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.800 as him, I think it could pay off. One thing 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.359 to remember was Samuel is he wasn't a return Gattlehouse State, 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.400