1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys on 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: the your war Room for in center news and draft 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: welcome once again, did the Draft Show give you a 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: little early draft show? We get two this week. Bossons 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: are out of town, so they were nice enough to 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: let us have some fun and uh do some shows 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: back to back. Brian brought us here with Dane Burgler 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kent Garrison, Executive Producer. As always, gentlemen, 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: we're getting close twenty two days until we get to 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: do this for real. Who are very excited about that 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: as we're still just kind of trying to put things together. 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: I mean, at this point we have a good idea 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: about these players who's in play where at this point 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't think we really expect too many shockers or 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, things we still have to learn or am 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I wrong? It is something that maybe you still I'm 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: curious about that. Yeah, I'm curious about this medical stuff. 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: Who in particular are you back McKinley, Moreau, those guys. 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: I'm curious about some guys at twenty eight that are 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: nicked up, right. I just want to I just want 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: to know how the health of some of these guys 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: is going forward. I think it's going to tell you 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: which way this draft might go, especially early. If you 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: talk about McKinley the shoulder, you know how far along 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: is he is? He? You know, you're I've seen Dane, 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you've had him, and we'll get into your mock draft. 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna get into Dane. His last 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: mock draft I thought was very interesting. Usually your first 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: draft is really good, and your last draft is the 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: one you want to hit in all the awards. I 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: thought you did some interesting things. Some mock drafts for 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: four is to examine scenarios, possibilities. You know, the last 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: mock draft that's for accuracy. You're going for the award 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: right there. You're going for the t You're going for 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the T shirt to beat Rick Goslin exactly. I have 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: one already. Yeah, I'd like to get another, but yeah, 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: for the but the mocks right now, there were still 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: a few weeks out. Just look at different possibilities. What 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: could happen. I think you did that. Yeah, I think 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: you did that in the second half the show. We're 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: going to get into that first half the show here. 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: I want to get into some draft news, some thoughts. 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: We've got the thirty visits rolling. We'll get into that 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: LSU Pro day. It's one safety running incredibly fast. I'll 49 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: say thirty five. Yeah. I reached out to some people, 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: hopefully they're at LSU's pro day. Some scout guys. Yeah, 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: what do he four three seven or three eight or 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: three eight? Mal Adams? What do you think about that? 53 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: That's media reported. It's also very different than what scouts. Yeah, 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: I reached out. We'll wait and get what officially scouts said. Yeah, 55 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: why are you gonna hate on my guy Dan who Adams? Yeah, 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm with him. If if he ran a 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: four four two at the combine, that's a significant difference 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: to the point that I don't really Yeah, I'm not 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: buying with there. I'll tell you what. It's like what 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I said last week. Boys, you like the player? Get 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: him at thirty eight yards? Yeah, stand there and click 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: that click that clock right there for thirty eight for Jamala, Like, 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: did anybody need to see him run that? No? But 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's one of those things. Yeah, this was 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: one of those things you're looking, you know, the measurables 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I expect him to run better 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: than four or five six. I mean he said that 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: that he tests a lot better than that, right, so 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: he was looking forward to the pro day to show 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: that he runs faster than a four or five six. 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a four three athlete now. 72 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: I think he could, you know, be a four four six, 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: four four eight somewhere in there type of guy. And 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: that's plenty good for a player we project as a 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: strong safety. Yeah. See, And this is where I think 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting, though, Dave. It's gonna be too safety. So 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna go in the top ten in this draft, 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: maybe the top eight, And who do you like better 79 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: than two? We'll get to that five. Yeah, we'll get 80 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: to that. Well, I'll get into that a little bit 81 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: because Dane's mock draft will kind of tell you what 82 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: he thought that maybe some teams are thinking, Awesome, I 83 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: feel like I have a really good opinion on that matter. 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: So I look forward to that. Yeah, that's so proper. Yeah, 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: he really wanted to cuss you out for that. Good 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: about it. We're also going to get into some Twitter 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: on the twenty as always, make sure you get your 88 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: questions in at the draft show and Dave will be 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: able to answer those for you. Get to Dane. Since 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: we're doing the two back to back shows, we're gonna 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: save our staple of tell me more till tomorrow. Like 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I said, I want to get into Dane's mock draft. 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: But right now, these thirty visits that are going on 94 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: with teams, you know, we're kind of getting an idea. 95 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: It's it's with the Twitter world. You really can't protect 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: your your visits too much. Kids will tweet they're visiting agents. 97 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, everybody seems to have an idea. And I 98 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: want to focus a little bit because we are the 99 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys here, but you know, I'll take it to anywhere 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: but the Cowboys specifically. It looks like just if you 101 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: look at the lists, primarily it's defensive players, big time, 102 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: big time defensive players, which is in a surprise now 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: number of corners. We talked about it last week on 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: the Draft show. I think we hit the number and 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: just yeah, ten or eleven, Yeah, I think we're I 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: think we hit that dead on defensive ends being another group, 107 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: I think we expect that, you know, a third corners, 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: a third pass rushers, then the last third a combination 109 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: of safeties, maybe a few offensive players sprinkled in there. 110 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: That's what I want to get into. I want to 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: get into the offensive players. You know, we talk about 112 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: all these defensive players. We know the Cowboys need defense. 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's clear that they need they need corners. 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: They you know, could surely use a defensive end to 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the point where and safety. I see where you're going 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: with this. But I mean, you look at the names 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: that are out there, and it's and you can't predict 118 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: it to a certainty always, but it's hard to sit 119 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: there and say, I mean, it looks like their strategies 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: that they know they got to get some starter caliber 121 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: players with these first few picks. Yeah, like they know that, 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: And that's what the list is. It's starter lubber players 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: that you can find at twenty eight and sixty on 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. And I honestly, I 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: think they're set up to where I don't know if 126 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: they're backed into a corner, but that is what they 127 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: need to the I mean, and I think that's when 128 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of offensive players floating around there, 129 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: because they have set themselves up to where I don't 130 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: know how much they can afford to not address defense 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: with at least one of these first two picks. I 132 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: was thinking maybe the first three. I'm and noh, yeah, 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I mean, you know, I'd 134 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: be stunned. I mean, that's what I've been preaching all along. 135 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: But again, yeah, at least two. Okay, Well, all right, 136 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about this then. Is there an office a player? 137 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Is there an offensive player in the first three rounds 138 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: that would make you go away? You know? And and 139 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: let's let's be honest. I mean, there's a ton of 140 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers. You know, there's some, there's some uh okay, well, 141 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: let's look at the running backs. I mean, I know, 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: running I mean they're gonna need they They're gonna probably 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: look at a running back. I would advise that they 144 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: do sure with you know, Terrence Williams back in the fold. Yeah, 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, how much of a need is wide receiver, 146 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: but would one have would would a stack? Would a 147 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: stack have a wide receiver? Would their stack have a 148 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver? Over maybe a defensive player is you get 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: to a certain level of the defensive players and you 150 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: stop thinking about Okay, now it's not worth it to 151 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: take a defensive player at this spot because of the 152 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: stack the way it is. I think, you know, we 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: don't know obviously, but in order to dig a little bit, 154 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I think we'd look at the top thirty visit and see, okay, 155 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: maybe what offensive guys are they looking at? And Dad 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: gives us a clue, and we know, I think it's 157 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: been it's been reported. You just Smith Schuster is one 158 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: of those names, uh, you know, a player who I 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: don't I'm waiting till the third round to take him. 160 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: This team might view him as a late too. I 161 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: don't know. And that's and to Dane's point, you know, 162 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: we talk about all the time. Mo Claiborne was the 163 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: last first round pick who did not visit the Cowboys, 164 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: and that's because I mean he wasn't really even in 165 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: their range. They didn't I mean at fourteen, which is 166 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: where they were that year. He was not a very 167 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: viable option, So why would you spend a visit on him? 168 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: So now you're probably talking about you know, if an 169 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: offensive player is going to be the guy at twenty eight, 170 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: it's probably a guy that you're not even thinking about 171 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: because it seems implaus See. I think I asked some 172 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: people about Adams and Jamal Jamal Adams, Yeah, Adams and Hooker, 173 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, I asked him about I mean, their their 174 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: thought was they're not in our range, right, Yeah, they're 175 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: not in our range. There was Solomon Thomas any thing 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: with you know a lot of these top ten guys, right, 177 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: And I'm well, I'm thinking off so offensively. I'm thinking, 178 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, how far down the board can Corey Davis's 179 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: foot push him? See Williams is another one, or Mike Williams. 180 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: How yeah, that's that's now. Now you're starting to talk. 181 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: And I like what you're saying about Smith Schuster. I 182 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: like with it because he is a visit, right, you know. 183 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: And and this team, David, you've covered this team now. 184 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: They don't bring guys in unless they're thinking about him. Yeah, 185 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't just to get the kids from 186 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: frequent flyer Miles a hat. It's about as good of 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: a roadmap as you can ask for. I mean, the 188 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: last four years have really proven that in terms of 189 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean getting an idea of what they're looking at, 190 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: who they're who they're thinking about. You remember that the 191 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: private workouts, the visits, those are unlimited. Teams can do 192 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: as many as they want. But the top thirty, yeah, 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: those are strict thirty. That's it. You know, you you 194 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: better be bringing in players you're interested in. So if 195 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster's come in here, there's obviously an interest level. 196 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: To what extent you know, we don't know. Could it 197 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: be a you know, a player there possibly looking at 198 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: in the late second round? Maybe I don't know where, 199 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean, where does he fit on it? So you 200 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about it, and I agree with you about 201 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: the about the third round. But but we've we've we've 202 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: tried to educate people that where you're picking in the 203 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: back end of a round, you might have to go 204 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: around early on a guy, right yeah. And so all 205 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden that you're thinking, oh, well, we'll grab 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: him in the third, No you're not, because somebody will 207 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: take him early in the third and then you'll miss 208 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: out on him. And I think we also have to 209 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: consider possible trade back scenarios right where you know, they 210 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: get out of the first round and they trade back 211 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: and they get another Day two pick, or you know, 212 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: and they pick up another third round or whatever the 213 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: trade compensation is would be awesome. Then all of a sudden, 214 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: you have a few more options, and ju just miss 215 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: Schuster in the early third becomes much more of a 216 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: viable option. I like with Dane's going here. Teams with 217 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: multiple second round picks hit me, Carolina and Cleveland. Teams 218 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: with multiple third round picks Baltimore, Denver, Kansas City, Minnesota, 219 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: New England, New Orleans, Jets, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tennessee. A 220 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: lot of teams I get that probably includes all the 221 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: comp picks. Yeah yeah, and you can trade him now 222 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: you trade those picks. Teams have multiple fourth round picks, Chicago, Cincinnati, 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: by the way, Cincinnati's got a lot of picks, and 224 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: they won't do anything but sad there and pick you can't. 225 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: You can't trade with Cincinnati. I've been trying to trade 226 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati since nineteen ninety two. They haven't returned my 227 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: call yet. That's but people sit here and they're like, oh, 228 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: there's too many holes for them to fill with justin 229 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the draft. Not not quite so fast, my friend. Yes, 230 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: fourth round, fourth round, multiple fourth round picks, Chicago, Cincinnati, Houston, 231 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis to Los Angeles, Rams, Minnesota, Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Washington. 232 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: You want your fifth back, Dave? Yeah? I do you 233 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: want your fifth back? Dane? Give me more seconds and 234 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: third and I'm just saying, but you want your fifth back? Sure? 235 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I want I want it all. Yeah, multiples, Arizona, Buffalo, 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: Cincinnati again, Mike Brown, I gonna take your call. I'm 237 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: just gonna let you know that Cleveland's in the mix here, 238 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Green bail trade, Kansas City will trade with you. Miami, 239 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: New England and San Francisco, Ohio. Guy, where's Cleveland picking 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: in the second round? Like thirty thirty three? I got 241 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: that in front of me, Dave it get me, get 242 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: me from twenty eight to thirty three, like Cleveland wants 243 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: to Sean Kaiser, Get me gent let me drop back 244 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: five spots and pick up the next get that, get 245 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: that fifth year option for the quarterback. Let's do it. 246 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Get rule that out. I love it all right. Well, 247 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: I went through all that, But we'll get back into 248 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's I love. I love when I want 249 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: multiple that's trade back, get me some picks. Okay, but 250 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: the let's talk about then we got the pick situation 251 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: we're tom about. Okay, you go back, but is there 252 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: any other in the other position I brought up running back? 253 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: Is there an Is there any of those running backs 254 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: that could do multiple things? Is there any running back 255 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: that they could bring in here that they could walk 256 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: through that door? That's that, but I'm worried you might 257 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: have to do it a little earlier again than you 258 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: want to do it. Two of them scream off the page, 259 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: had me, and I think you can name them about 260 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: the West Coast version, in the East coast version. Yeah, yeah, sure, 261 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the Midwest guy in the West Coast guy. I got you, 262 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: And I think you tell everybody. Then you would have 263 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: to make either a Christian McCaffrey or a Curtis Samuel 264 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: a first round pick, if that's the way you wanted 265 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: to go. I think the Curtis Samuel at twenty eight, 266 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: I to me, he is a player I would consider 267 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: in the first round. Now, I don't know how many 268 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: people other people share that sentiment, but I do think 269 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: he's a top fifty player. Oh so I'm hoping it's sixty, right, 270 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: it's sixty. I'm not getting him. You're not hoping he's gone. 271 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a yeah, a very good chance that 272 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: he's gone. But maybe, you know, because this team needs 273 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: defense obviously, but maybe it's just one of those things 274 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: where if he's still there somehow there's a chance, then okay, 275 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: then we take them there. But I'd be very surprised 276 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: they took him at twenty eight. Either one of them 277 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: could fill for would you take Samuel over a corner? 278 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Is say you took say you got what what at 279 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: twenty eight? And we're and here I am preaching about 280 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: taking a defensive players and all that, I wouldn't whatever 281 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: you're about to say, I wouldn't do. You're not gonna 282 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: find many people who are bigger fans of Credit Samuel 283 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: than me. He's twenty fifth overall on my board, so 284 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: he's a first round pick on my board. But I 285 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: still feel good that there will be another player on 286 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: defense that's rated right there in that group available that 287 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: and I you know, and I'm jumping off the track 288 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: of the running back a little bit, but I was 289 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna say this. Another guy that really intrigues me, who 290 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: I could see falling is I never say his name, right, 291 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: I feel like you, but Ramshick, Ram check check, I 292 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: never say it right. That one I do get right. 293 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: He's got the hip problem, right, I could conceivably see 294 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: him falling. And you know, maybe if you have a chance, 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Oh we'll get into that, if you have a chance 296 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: to take a guy that good at twenty eight. I 297 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: know you know, offensive line is not a big need, 298 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: but you could talk me into that. But going back 299 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: to Dane's point, I just think there's gonna be enough 300 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: defensive firepower in this draft that you'd be hard pressed there, 301 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: like there will be a guy there that you want 302 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: on defense, and maybe really feel that this is another 303 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: trade back scenario where if you trade back into the 304 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: middle of the second round, Curtis Samuel becomes much more 305 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: of an option possibly. And okay, let's look at the 306 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: running back that chart right now. Zeke obviously in America 307 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: and McFadden's back on what a one year deal, right 308 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: and then in one year? Yeah, got benched last year, right? 309 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: And I think Alfred Morris, most people you know, believe 310 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: that it could be a possible cut, could be a trade. 311 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's no guarantee he's on the roster in July, 312 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: so you know running back is a possibility. It's a 313 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: bigger boy. Would that dry people nuts that they took 314 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: Samuel though it's sixty, It would drive people nuts. I 315 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: couldn't he's your twenty fifth best player. Eight. Yes, it 316 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: would be the initial The initial reaction would be anger 317 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: and shock. And then I don't think it would take 318 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: long to talk people into it though, because first of all, 319 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: your number one running back has been acting like a knucklehead. 320 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: That's true, that's a thing to keep in mind. And 321 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: then you're we just no job security for your number 322 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: two or number three. And so if you were to 323 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: draft Curtis Samuel or Christian McCaffrey for that matter, he 324 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: can play running back, receiver, punt returner, and kick returner, 325 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: all of which are things that you need. Curtis Samuel 326 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: had seventy four catches last year. Yeah, I mean he's 327 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: got a great route runner, but you hand him the 328 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: football and he'll have some drops, be like Lance Dunbar 329 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: if he actually got involved, right, And that's it was 330 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel some people want to move him on to 331 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver for no. No, but he averaged seven point 332 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: nine yards per rush last Yes, keep him in, Yes, 333 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean you can do. I don't know. This team 334 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: on offense isn't the most creative with theirs. That's fair. 335 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: But if you're going to draft to Curtis Samuel, I 336 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: think you you need to be so the two offensive 337 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: players that we would like, and neither one of them could. 338 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: It is possible really at sixty, which would be Smith 339 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Schuster and Samuel. You don't think miss Schuster wud be 340 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: possible at sixty. It's more likely than Samuel. Yeah, I 341 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: agree it there, Okay, okay, but here's again, here's the point, though, 342 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Is he going to be better than is? You pick 343 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: your position, like I said, maybe it's tackle, maybe it's 344 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: running back, maybe it's receiver. Whatever, is the number one 345 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: player available at that position better than the third or 346 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: fourth option. Oh that's why you argued about OJ Howard 347 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: when he was Yeah, it's the same conversation. Maybe it is, David. No, no, no, 348 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: it's the same argument you make. You take the first 349 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: best tied in right or the fourth best defensive in 350 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: Although theoretic I mean, Curtis Samuel wouldn't be the best 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: running back, no button cooking for an at are gone 352 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: and probably McCaffrey whatever. But I get your point. I'd 353 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: argue that in the first round, you just listen your 354 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: top twenty eight players and you're guaranteed at one of them. 355 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: That's just kind of how you know, I mean, whether 356 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: that if it happens to be offense, if it happens 357 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: to be defense, you know, he would be shocked though, 358 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: if they took an offensive player at twenty eight. Here's 359 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: and Stephen Jones said this at the combine, and it 360 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: really stuck with me, which is that obviously you don't 361 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: want to reach for need. You want to take the 362 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: best player available, but when it's close, the guy that 363 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: you need looks a lot more interesting when it's a 364 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: close call. And that's what you know, all right, you're 365 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: a moros, a bad example because he's hurt right now, Okay, 366 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: a guy that I really like a lot as an 367 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: option at twenty eight right now, Kevin King. Yeah, if 368 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: Kevin King is sitting there at twenty eight and like 369 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel's your next I mean, you're gonna take the 370 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: corner or you should yea, yeah, the stack will probably 371 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: show that well. And it's different when you're picking, by 372 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the way, a visit to Kevin last year when tricking 373 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: top ten and the goals should be to find impact players. 374 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: Then this year when you're picking twenty eight, you know, 375 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: and you're it's more about helping your football team. You know, 376 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: right away with you know you could you could move 377 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: around a little bit with need you know it, taking 378 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: a need player over maybe someone you have a little 379 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: bit higher. You can do that at twenty eight. You 380 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that at four. Let me ask you this 381 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have had terrible luck taken tight ends 382 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: in the second round. Yes, with Samuel be like the 383 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: tight end being taken and they don't use it the 384 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: right way. I'm much more confident that they would use 385 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel the right way because, good by Lucky Whitehead, 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: he's so well, he's so versatile. Yeah, even if he's 387 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: just a return guy. But even I mean they have 388 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson's another visit here. They have shown I will 389 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: talk about him. Yeah, Samuel's more interests. Good point, just 390 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: for the reason that they have shown a willingness to 391 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: take Zeke off the field before they use They used 392 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: dunbar in two minutes and yeah, block situations. But much 393 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: to everybody's just okashing of teeth, I think it would 394 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: be a little bit different with this guy. He's a 395 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: little bit better, I think, yeah, and then better. They 396 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: rotated more McFadden in every third series or whatever it was, 397 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: so they have shown a willingness to take Zeke off 398 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: the field, and I think with a guy as dynamic 399 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: as him, I think it could pay off. One thing 400 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: to remember was Samuel is he wasn't a return Gattlehouse State, 401 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: so I think he can do it, but he wasn't 402 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: asked to do that on a consistent basis, mostly because 403 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: he was their best offensive threat and they right to 404 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: keep him healthy. So I think he only had six 405 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: career punt returns at Ohio State. So it's something I 406 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: think he can do and we'll get better at. But 407 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: not a guy that is a proven commodity at doing 408 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: that type of thing. I go out on a lemon 409 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: say he could do it just as good as the 410 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: guy who's got the job right now, like right away, Lucky. Yeah, Yeah, 411 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: I'd agree. There, there we go. That's all. That's all 412 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: you need to know. Okay, so we agree there there 413 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: are a couple of offensive players that would you know, 414 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: it's a in a thirty visit group that's full of 415 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: defensive players you could potentially see. I mean, we've talked 416 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: about Smith Schuster being here. We have to find out 417 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: about Samuel and stuff. But that's that's a great name 418 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: you brought up, by the way. I just I still 419 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: and I've been saying this for most of the time 420 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: we've been doing the show, but I think it will 421 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: take some seriously shocking developments for this to not be 422 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: a defender at twenty eight. Yeah, I think I agree. 423 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: All Right, good discussion, boys. When we come back, we 424 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: do a little Twitter on the twenty Stay tuned. With 425 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: unlimited Data from AT and T, you can stream your 426 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: favorite Direct TV content almost anywhere. 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This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com 464 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Draft show Cowboys on the Clock. Back here at the 465 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios, Brian brought us along with Dane Brugler, 466 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: David Hellman, Kate Garrison Executive Producing. Um, real quick, I 467 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: want to get into this the Beast, the Beast. I'll 468 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: hold it up for everybody. Let every bcs I had 469 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: mine all you don't have your copy yet? Don't have 470 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: your copy up? And hold it up right there, Kent 471 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: if you can put on the shot. Dane, talk about 472 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: what the folks need to do to get the beast 473 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: best ways just go to my twitter at dp Brugler 474 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: you can find the link. I have a pin to 475 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: the top. Uh. A lot of you guys already have 476 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: it or you've gotten the past. This is the best 477 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: one I've done yet. It really feel strongly about. At 478 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty reports, over a thousand players ranked, 479 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: all the infos in there, all the testing numbers, all 480 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: the stats, all the analysis, everything you need to know 481 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: about a player that you know these teams are going 482 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: to be looking first, second round and then later rounds. 483 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's all broken down. This is really an 484 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: amazing bit of work. It really it truly and for 485 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: somebody that has been doing this a long time, you know, 486 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: you could go into a you could go into a 487 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: war room right there and do some damage. I appreciate 488 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: it well and do some good. It really could. I 489 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: have five teams that requested every year, so yeah, it's 490 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: something that NFL teams do look at and I know 491 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: they appreciate it. So absolutely. This this picture of Miles 492 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Garrett and some somebody in the ward. Someone will have that. 493 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: And also to h Dallas Cowboys dot com. We're gonna 494 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: have a Star magazine. We're gonna will be out our 495 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: draft issue for that. That's not as intense as what 496 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: The Beast is. But what we do is we have 497 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: a lot of stories, some features I do some a 498 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: lot of cowboys cowboys stuff in there. Yeah, so a 499 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: lot of notes on the players and stuff. We take 500 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a look at the guys that 501 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: are in this draft. So that's coming out April seventeenth, 502 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: so or see me April nineteenth. So make sure April 503 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: nineteenth Star Magazine and the Draft, and also make sure 504 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: you go on Dang's Twitter page and get the Beast. 505 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: So okay, David Hellman, thank you, ed Kay Hill, David Hellman, 506 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: take it away Twitter on the Twitter. I'm want to 507 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: start this off. We pat ourselves on the back a 508 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: little bit because Hunter wants to know and we sort 509 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: of just touched on this. But is there anybody left? 510 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think so because we have been so thorough, 511 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: But is there anybody left at twenty eight that would 512 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: utterly surprise you for this team that you think is 513 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: a realistic option surprise pick? Maybe somebody falls or maybe 514 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: they just do something. We talked about those receivers would 515 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: would would Williams? Well, yeah, we would have to have 516 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: Davis one of those guys. I mean I talked about 517 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: the medical recheck, yeah, with Davis. Davis yet that ankle 518 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: hasn't worked out yet. Yeah, hopes too before the draft. 519 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: So that's still you know what. Who I've seen fall 520 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: that's funny and I know you haven't done it in 521 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: your mock draft is Alan from Alabama. He has kind 522 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: of slipped. I've still see him. I feel like I 523 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: see him in the top twelve more than more. Yeah, 524 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: but I mean it's just funny to see guys. Yeah, 525 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, we don't know what's going on with the shoulders, 526 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: right that's something that we need to Every team's gonna 527 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: look out a little differently. It's something that Alan has 528 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: said is not an issue right now. He doesn't anticipate 529 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: it being an issue in terms of during his playing days. 530 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: That maybe down the road when he's retired, his shoulders 531 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: will be something that he has to deal with, But 532 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: right now it's not too much of an issue, which 533 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: is why I still think we're gonna see Alan in 534 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: top ten, but you know, he probably won't go as 535 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: high as Maybe it's like Solomon tom everybody kind of 536 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: had him in that then maybe in the in the 537 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: two hole, yeah, San Francisco. But now it's Salomon Thomas 538 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: seems to be the guy that everody falls in love 539 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: with there. I think realist like, I could see a 540 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: receiver or a tackle falling to them, but it wouldn't 541 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: surprise me, though, Ram Chick, that would be fun. What 542 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: about John Ross? See, that's that's another one. I mean 543 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: the medicals all that's scary a little bit obviously. That's 544 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: the knee thing after what the owner general manager said 545 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: about he read shirting players and all that. You know, 546 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: I just don't think they would go that route. But 547 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: he's not hurt, No, he's just has the possibility and 548 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: you had to go with the odds. And there's the 549 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: odds are said, will say that he will at some 550 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: point get hurt again. Yeah, but that's the last thing 551 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: they need, thank you, whether first round pick getting hurt. 552 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: Paul wants to know if a pass rusher is your 553 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: pick at twenty eight, whoever, doesn't matter which dB would 554 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: you love the most at sixty. Realistically speaking, i'd like 555 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: really like tankerously at that point, I think I think 556 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: you're onto something there Clumson corner. Yeah, legit four four athlete. 557 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: When you put them up and press nose to nose 558 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: with the wide receiver, I'll take my chances of Tankersly 559 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: every time. Well, he's a physical son of a gun man. 560 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Like I say, cover your eyes on some of that 561 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: off coverage stuff. I don't know that you can't play 562 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: him in off coverage. I mean that's what I'm saying. 563 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: He needs to get a lot better. But if you were, 564 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: you would like his toughness. Oh yeah, I mean I 565 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: think every Yeah, the physicality of him as a player. Yeah, 566 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: he looks to make wide receivers uncomfortable just from the snap. 567 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get in their face, look to 568 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: kind of you know, disrobe them and get them off 569 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: their game, disrupt the timing of the route. Give me 570 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: give me him. If I'm going to be pressing, you know, 571 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: if I'm going to commit to that as a defense, 572 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: then I'll take Tankrously all day long. I think your 573 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: boy Moreau, we'll hang around till sixty with them, just 574 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: kind of I'm just kind of thinking with the peck. 575 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: You know, there's another visit and that's not well, I'll 576 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: tell you what if he's there at sixty. That's like 577 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: my situation last year with Miles Jack in the second round, 578 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: and Moreau wasn't a lock first rounder. No healthy, I'm 579 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: cheerleading for him. He's probably people are jumping on my 580 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: back about that that's not and that, but that's not 581 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: a red shirt. I mean they're bringing him in, so 582 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: that's at least I feel good about that. It's a 583 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's a torn muscle. It's supposed to be. Yeah, 584 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: it's I don't look at that. That's not a Jalen 585 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Smith or a job, but it is a John Ross. 586 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Thing is this is a player Faby Moreau missed all 587 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: of two and fifteen with an injury, with a foot injury, 588 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: so you know it's something where is a player with 589 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: a history of injuries. But we're talking about sixty and 590 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: not twenty eight, So I think you can take a 591 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: little bit more of a chance. When we're talking about 592 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: the sixtieth overall pick in this draft, Moreau very possibly 593 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: could be there. With people, this is gonna sound nuts. 594 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Well I'm even asking this. They won't ding tabor that bad? Well, 595 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: they oh, I think it's possible. Sure, I think we 596 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: talked about this. I think it depends a lot on 597 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: his visits and how they feel about him, more so 598 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: than his forty times in my opinion. But yeah, I 599 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: think that's a good point. And remember this corn Well, 600 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: you watch the tape, that's it's deep, it's up. But 601 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: then when this corner class, we talked about the jumble 602 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: of players in that in that mix. So if you're 603 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: thinking about Tabor Kevin King, well, we know what King 604 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: can run. Oh no, absolutely King instead, and then you 605 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: do that with you know, Tabor and all the rest 606 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: of these guys, and all of a sudden, you know, 607 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 1: Tabor keeps moving down farther and farther and farther, And 608 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: that's a deep it's deep it is we're about Humphrey. No, 609 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: I there's just too much there to me. He's a 610 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: he's a first round pick. Sure, I don't. I can't 611 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: see him last into sixty. Um. That's so funny that 612 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: because people would have thought Tabor was better than Humphrey. 613 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, now he runs four six 614 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: one that's from the combine. I know it's for seven 615 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: at the pro day. About a woozy A. Yeah, that's 616 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: a good that's a good name there at six. Yeah. Yeah, 617 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: woozy gosh, I don't know. That's that's rich for me. Yeah, 618 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: thanks for mentioning with school. Yeah, that's rich. Where do 619 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I have them? I have them high? Um do you 620 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: miss a two three two two forty three overall? See, 621 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: then he's he's okay with that. About Marcus Williams Utah safety, 622 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Oh now say I mean safety? Yeah? Safety, safety is 623 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: the spot. Yeah. I was thinking of corners, but Marcus, 624 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: he's on the top thirty visit. Yeah, I mean he's 625 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: a true single high center field type. You know, the 626 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: ball skills, the range, if you if you're gonna invest 627 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: in that, you know, I don't know. Okay, Then what 628 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: do you do with Byron Jones? If can he play? 629 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: Is he gonna leave my corn you can put in 630 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: my corner if you're gonna No, No, I keep him, 631 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: I keep him, I keep him playing. I Playim's, I 632 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: play the other guy, I play the I play Williams 633 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: in center field and put Jones down more as a 634 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: strong Yeah, that's where he's better. No, I agree, Dylan 635 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: makes a really astute up. It's amazing here, what Tabor 636 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean? I thought you guys were gonna just laugh 637 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: me out. No, not the reason they do these tests. 638 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: Nothing has gone right for that guy since the draft process. 639 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: And remember it's not just point, it's not just the 640 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: forty yard dashes, you know, it's it's the rest of 641 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: his testing numbers and his interviews. You know, he just yeah, 642 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: this is a guy who failed drug tests in college. 643 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: He refused to take drug tests in college. At one 644 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: point he compared, you're throwing a lot of dirt on 645 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: the kid right now. It's their facts. I mean, he 646 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: brought him in. What did he compare college too. I 647 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever heard that slavery dern version of slavery. Y. 648 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a he's a young, immature kid, 649 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: and he's not talking about Tabor, right, Yeah, most most 650 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: of these guys are. And I mean, I'm I was 651 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: two at twenty one years old, So if you weren't 652 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: talking about slavery in college, though, I'm no. But I mean, 653 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure who knows what I would have said if 654 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: you had to ask me. Then if I was in 655 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: the public eye at twenty one, I would be in 656 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: some deep crap probably, But yeah, Okay, it's interesting stuff. 657 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: Dany that the show, we could go back and find 658 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: like those mock drafts that they do during college football, 659 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: no doubt, where he's a top eight pick, doubt. And 660 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: now you're talking about maybe he's there at sixth. Real quick. 661 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Building off of that social media I check every single 662 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: social media for every one of these players, and his 663 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: is crazy. Every year every team does, Okay, oh sure 664 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: they do. You can learn a lot about these players 665 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: by just looking at their Twitter feed, their Facebook. What 666 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: did they post, what did they retweet? Who? You know, 667 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: what kind of things are they saying? It's it is 668 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: something scary, it's fascinating. Uh No, I mean most of 669 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: his stuff his agent must have got to him because 670 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: it was deleted already. Um, but some of these guys 671 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: don't do that, don't day, idiot. That's that's the least 672 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: of my worries. Really a stude observation from Dylan. He's 673 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: I think the numbers are off. He said the Cowboys 674 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: have taken a linebacker in twelve straight drafts. I don't 675 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: think that's completely right, but they have taken a linebacker 676 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: in every draft going back to at least like OZ nine. 677 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: So we don't talk a lot about linebacker for obvious reasons. 678 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I think they're pretty happy with Wilson and Sacha. They 679 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: want to see what they and that. So he's in 680 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith if he can play. He's saying, if if 681 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: Ruben Foster were to fall to yeh, there you go. 682 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: Or if Duke Riley was there at sixty, like really 683 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: some of your more top tier linebackers, do you do 684 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: you pull the trigger on that value anyway? Even though 685 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: I agree, I think linebacker is a position you can 686 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: afford to ignore for at least this year. Duke Riley, 687 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: though I have him better than Anderson, I agree. Yeah, 688 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: Duke Riley's in that second round. He's a good player, 689 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Duke Riley, and he would I know it's LSU and 690 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't like to talk about it. I 691 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: don't either, I really don'te But man, he when you 692 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: watch him play, he gets to the ball in my 693 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: forty two forty two round over YEA take him as sixties. 694 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: So would you do it? Yeah? I mean I at 695 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: that point, I mean, depends who else on the board, 696 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: but he looks like you're I mean, he'd be an 697 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: excellent value pick. He's worth that pick at twenty I 698 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: mean would be playing at Will right right, Yeah, so 699 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: Sean Lee. You have to keep keep Sean where he 700 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: can play. He's played thirty three games that will fans 701 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: don't want to hear this with a second round pick 702 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: due Riley on special teams. It's just nuts how good 703 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: he is. I mean, you don't want to suppose the 704 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Dory Jackson can he could? Riley? Could Riley play Mike? 705 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: I know, I feel Foster could. I don't know. Yah, 706 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: Foster could for sure, Yeah, Foster could, for sure. I 707 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: think Foster's a better Will probably, Yeah, I do too. 708 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: I haven't an outside of background my board. If Foster 709 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: falls to twenty eight, that scares you. You know, why 710 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: why did twenty seven teams just pass on this guy? 711 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: You know? Did it on ray Lewis too? That's true. 712 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: I mean I was in Green Bay when that one 713 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: can fly down the boarder? Yeah, okay, yeah, no, I 714 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: mean no, I'm just saying, though, you wonder, Yeah, you 715 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: do with with players start sliding. You're absolutely right. You're 716 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: sitting there and you're you're you're thinking, what is going on? 717 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: What do we miss? Then your general manager looks at you, Yeah, 718 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: what's going on brought us what's going on? That's exactly Burglar, 719 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: that's your area. What the hell? Yeah, you know, I 720 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: don't know, Boss, I don't know when you can sign. 721 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm just as surprised as you are. The four linebackers 722 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: that are healthy and available to play for this team 723 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: right now, and then the Jalen Smith situation. I just 724 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: feel like you can afford to wait a year on that. 725 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: That's you hope about Jalen Smith. But I'm just saying, 726 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: maybe he plays and plays great, maybe he doesn't. But 727 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: either way, even without him, you still have Leeve Hitchens, Wilson, 728 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: and they do like they do like Wilson and Sacha. 729 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: I know that for a fact. Um Jared with another 730 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: question about this roster. Charles. He says, Charles Tapper's coming back, 731 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: and he says this is his words, not He says 732 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: there's no war daddies to be had at twenty eight. 733 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: I feel like y'all would disagree with that possibly. But 734 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: if that's the case, if well, I'll alter the question. 735 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: I'll what your guy, Yeah, would what be a war daddy? 736 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: It's very loose definition. Yeah, war daddy to me was 737 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: always the under size inside play war daddy is my 738 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: guy at at Ohio line, the linebacker Brown Brown. Yeah, No, 739 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: you're no. War Daddy just means badass. That's all it means. 740 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: He's a badass. But you're like you're talking about undersize 741 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: like war daddy. Just war daddy means Von Miller. That's 742 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: what it means. Well, of course you're picking at twenty eight, Okay, 743 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: And I guess that's his That's Jared's point is if 744 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: that guy's thank you, Jared. If that guy's not there 745 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: at twenty eight, maybe are we may He's wants to know, 746 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: are we making too much of the need at defensive end? 747 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they Maybe it's not something you do. You just hope. 748 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: I think we've we've talked about we have safety. There 749 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: are plenty of bodies at defensive end, Warner bodies on 750 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: the defensive line on this team. So I'm sorry, Joe, 751 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to get kind of snippy with you there. 752 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at your current roster 753 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: and say, okay, Charles Harris, where would he fall in 754 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: the pecking order on your depth chart? Is he an 755 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: instant starter? Is he a guy who's gonna have to 756 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: start as a backup? And then maybe here it's a 757 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: starting job at some point in his rookie year. How 758 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: does the how do these guys compare to what you 759 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: have on the roster already? That's peak speaking from the cow. 760 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: Harris is different than what they have Because I always 761 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: talk about the left ends. He's a right end. He's 762 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: a right end. He's a right end. Yeah, I agree 763 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: him or what I have? What right higher? I like 764 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: what I've seen from What more than what I've seen 765 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: from Harris. I mean I'm not the experts like y'all, 766 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: but I like both both the first round players. Pick 767 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: one what Okay, you're gonna pick what. I would take 768 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: what over Harris. One thing with what I don't think 769 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: we've talked enough about is don't say try hard and 770 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: I think about that enough. Yeah, we know who he is. 771 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: You know that's his identity. But is that multiple knee injuries. 772 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: It's something that needs to be talked about. He's here visiting. 773 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: They're gonna push him, pull on him. Remember what, he 774 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: was a guy who didn't play defense until two fifteen. 775 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: I mean he's still raw in several areas. I mean, 776 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: he needs to get better. He's a quarterback in high 777 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: school tight end at Wisconsin when he got there, didn't 778 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: move to defense until two fifteen, So they're still gets 779 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: a pretty good skill for not really knowing how to play. Then, well, 780 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: when you watch and yeah, it's one of the reasons 781 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: I like him so much because this last year is 782 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: his first year as a starter. Yeah, and he going 783 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: up what he did as a starter, you expect him 784 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: to get better and better. So, but it is and 785 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: that's something that needs to be talked about with what 786 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: who's got the chance to have the career that's the 787 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: most steady watt or Harris? I mean, if you, if you, 788 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: if you're looking at twenty eight and it's not a 789 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: war daddy situation, who's got the chance to have the career? 790 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: You know, the guy that's just gonna be you know, 791 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: down after down, He's gonna be what you wanted. I mean, 792 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a tough guy. He's gonna play the run, 793 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna get pass rush. You think it's what over Harris? Yeah, 794 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: problem of the two. Yeah, the guy that probably is 795 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: gonna have the career of the better rusher is Harris. 796 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: The guy that's going to be the most complete player, 797 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: better all around guy, it's probably gonna be what probably? 798 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean it. I don't think it's a huge gap 799 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: in terms of pass rush ability. Yeah, I mean I 800 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: think what can give you enough juice? I mean, I 801 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: don't think Harris is head and shoulder is the better 802 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 1: pass rush right, And given that guy's taking at twenty eight, 803 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: don't usually turn into Von Miller. You can hope. I 804 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: can dream lots off the board a Pro Bowl quarterback 805 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: that doesn't have a chance at pick at one, nine, nine. 806 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: Every freaking week I bring this up. But at twenty eight, 807 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm cool with the guy with a high floor, which 808 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: is why I don't have a problem with Charlton. Give 809 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: me the high floor, give me the guy that give 810 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: me the guy that's not going to disappoint me. I'm 811 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: a problem with try. We don't have to talk about it. 812 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: I know we don't have an example. I know I'm 813 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: with you. Quick, we got time for one more, sure, 814 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: with one more friend of the show, Bobby Belt. He says, Uh, 815 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: he's seen reports about Justin Evans playing corner and do 816 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: you think that's possible? Yeah, I think that that makes 817 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: some sense because he's a bad tackler and he's a 818 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: very good athlete. So I mean, if you you can't 819 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 1: be a bad role, you can't be a bad tackler 820 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,479 Speaker 1: and play safety from my team, this you just can't. 821 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: This justin Evans out of A and M. Sorry, right, So, 822 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: but he's a very good athlete straight line speed, he's 823 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: more he's a four or five guy, but he's explosive. 824 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: Um and you know what he can do in coverage 825 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: is why you like him. He's kind of the poor 826 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: man's Millie Cooker where there's some questions in run support, 827 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot more questions with Evans, but I see Hooker 828 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: tackle better than Evans. Yeah, he's a better tackle, but 829 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Hooker still has his questions and run support. I did 830 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: say this though about Evans, and this is this is 831 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: from my notes. If he could tackle, you might consider 832 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: him in the first round. Yeah, yeah, I put that 833 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: in my notes because I went back and we're doing 834 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: it for the magazine. I went back and read every 835 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: he's one of the top ten guys I have at 836 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: that position, and I and I he is one of 837 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: those guys that the coverage part of it is I 838 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: think is really good. I really don't want to safety 839 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: who can't tackle, but he would make me. Really he's 840 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty tackler at best. That's awful. And he's 841 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: he's a no, he's a faster. JJ Wilcox is what 842 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: he is. JJ was better than fifty fifty. I think 843 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: it at times in twenty sixteen, at least, see this 844 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: guy didn't take terrible angles. This guy will take some 845 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: bad angles, not terrible ones. I don't know if to 846 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: do it justin Evans because I think he can't get 847 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: better and run support, but how much better? And that 848 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: basically dictates how how you draft them. If you think 849 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: he can get it markedly better and run support, than 850 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: you consider them in the second round. But I worry. 851 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: That's why I game A three to four on my board. 852 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: I have him the fourth myself. Yeah, all right, but 853 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: this thing about it is, if they took him at sixty, 854 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 1: what conversation we're gonna have that night. Brian's gonna throw 855 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: something against the studio wall. I'll try would be nice, 856 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: That would be a reach a little bit. Yeah, okay, 857 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: all right, thank you very much, day, thank everybody out 858 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: there for the questions on Twitter. On the twenty. When 859 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: we come back, let's dive into Dane Brugler's mock draft. 860 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: We'll be right back to work this big land. 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This is the Dallas 898 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show Cowboys on the club back 899 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: here in the Draft Show from the s TOBBC Morgan Studios. 900 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: Just a reminder, we're gonna do the skin tomorrow, same time, 901 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: eleven am. We'll get back into take some more of 902 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: your questions. Get Derek to just let us do it 903 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: five days a week until the art. We're getting close. 904 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 1: We're getting close where he's just gonna say, hey, listen, 905 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: you guys take it over. And we're really excited that 906 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: with the partnership that we have with one oh five three, 907 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: we will be here in this studio covering all the 908 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: picks in the NFL Draft. I'm really love that this 909 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: time of year that war Room Cam as well. Yeah, 910 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: war Room Cam got it all here. So very excited 911 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: that we will three of my favorite days of the 912 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: calendar year. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. But and again, 913 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: it's just not about the Cowboys. This is gonna be 914 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: about the whole National Football League. So if you're you know, 915 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: a fan from the outside watching the Draft Show for 916 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: the first time, thank you very much for doing that. 917 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: But we're gonna we're gonna talk about all your picks. 918 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna talk about, Hey, Atlanta, did this 919 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: Tampa did that and give you analysis on every pick 920 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: that's made. So again excited about that on Dallas Cowboys 921 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: dot com. And then also our partnership with one oh 922 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: five three the Fan, which is the Cowboys official station 923 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: radio stations. So we will do all that here in 924 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: about three weeks twenty two days, So looking forward to that. Okay, 925 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler put up a mock draft this week. I 926 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: always think the first one is your best one, in 927 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: your last one is the one that you try and 928 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 1: win an award on to be the right one. So 929 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: and remember, mock drafts are not what we think should happen. Yeah, 930 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: not what I would do. They're just make people think. Yeah, 931 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,919 Speaker 1: you try to guess what could happen, and remember they're 932 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: always surprises on draft day, so you kind of try 933 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: and read the tea leaves and figure out connect the dots, 934 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: figure out what those surprises might be. First three picks 935 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: really no surprise, Scott Miles Garrett going to the Browns 936 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: forty nine ers taken Solomon Thomas. Real quick about Salomon 937 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: Thomas maybe the safest player in the draft. As long 938 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: as you feel comfortable with this scheme fit, Yeah, I 939 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: think that's the biggest question. Would you like to fit 940 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: in San Francisco there with a three to four team? 941 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: They're playing for three now. They moved back, and that's 942 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: the big issue because they have Buckner and Armstead. That's okay, 943 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: they switched it back then this way well, in the 944 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers are a true wild card with a 945 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: brand new head coach, John Lynch, first year general manager, 946 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: who knows if it doesn't matter who's on the roster 947 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: right now, the players on the roster are not tied 948 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: to this current regime. So forty nine Ers could go 949 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: and any single direction. But I do think to your point, 950 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: Salmon Thomas being more of a safer pick, yeah, I 951 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: think he'd be a great place to start building the 952 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: new forty nine ers. H I'm hearing some whispers that 953 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: Carolina could come to that pick at two that means 954 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: they would go from eight to two, and I've heard 955 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: that too, and I just don't get it. When you can, 956 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 1: like all we've talked about this whole draft cycle is like, man, 957 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco is in a tough spot because who do 958 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: you There's nobody that you really feel great about it too, 959 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: So why would you give up assets to go up 960 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: to a spot you don't feel great about. I think 961 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: the problem is is there's the top six players and 962 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: there's a drop off, and the Panthers at eight are 963 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, we're on the outside looking end. 964 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: We want to get one of those top six guys, 965 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: and so but to get up that high, it's probably 966 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: gonna take a future one, and that's you just can't 967 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: do that. I love Salmon Thomas, but you can't trade 968 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: a future one. A guy that will chart right here, 969 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: the guy that'll be there for you at eight is 970 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: better than getting rid of a future one on the 971 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: Cowboy chart three thousand excuse me, a twenty six hundred 972 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: four through the math here, guys, twenty six hundred for 973 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: that second all pick. To get there, you're at sitting 974 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,959 Speaker 1: at the Carolina, you're at the fourteen hundred. It's twelve 975 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 1: hundred points. Yeah. So yeah, that's probably I mean, that's equal, 976 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: that's basically equal the twelfth overall pick. Yeah, that's what 977 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: it would cost you. Yeah to go and the Panthers 978 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: you expect them to be picking not in the top 979 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: ten next year, Yeah, exactly. Uh, I've got Lattimore going 980 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: to Cleveland at three, Chicago at three. Excuse me, Jacksonville 981 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: takes Jonathan Allen at four, Tennessee the pick Jacksonville. I 982 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 1: don't know what to do with them because their roster, 983 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: they have a good roster, like you, but you keep 984 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: adding defensive players too, a position by position. Yeah, they 985 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: don't have like a glaring need except just that quarterback. 986 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: You know, Blake Bortles is the guy right now. But yeah, 987 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: they because they addressed they do so much in free 988 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 1: agency and they've had a lot of hot, lofty draft picks. 989 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah they should be better than they are. And yeah, 990 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: you didn't do it, But a lot of people pencil 991 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: in Leonard Fournette at four, and I'm just like, don't 992 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: they have Yelden and Ivory? Like what, why do they 993 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: need a running back that badly that they would spend 994 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: a top five pick on one. Well, you could argue 995 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: that's maybe the biggest need, just because they're so they're 996 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: they're steady at every other position. I mean, they addressed 997 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: corner and that that's gross that they gave Chris Ivory 998 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars and they drafted t J. Yelden in 999 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: the top fifty, so he was a top fifty pick. Yeah, 1000 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: second rounder, ross early second rounder. You get to wonder 1001 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: with Tom Coughlin coming in, how that might affect their draft. Yeah, 1002 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: thinking so Jaguars, I mean, all these guys are wild card, 1003 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: all these teams are wild cards. But another one we'll 1004 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: get through this Tennessee, Tennessee. It takes Adam Smillis, Shoe 1005 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: Jets take Trubisky from North Carolina quarterbacks. Who knows? Yeah, 1006 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: bleek Hooker goes to the Los Angeles Chargers. So you've 1007 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: got a sepisode of going before Hooker. Yeah? Is that 1008 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: just because that can't because of his injury? Just thinking 1009 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: because with Adams you have a safer player Hooker because 1010 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: it hasn't been able to work out. And I That's 1011 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say earlier. I do. I agree 1012 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: with it, Like I think Malie Hooker has the higher potential, 1013 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 1: but Adams is the more surefire, steady player. Yeah, no question. 1014 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: I got Hooker over Adams myself. I think so why Yeah, 1015 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: I think everybody that drafts the safety wants him to 1016 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: be Ed Reid and have like seventy career intersevens. Sure, 1017 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: Malie Hooker has a better potential to turn into that 1018 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: guy than Jamal Adams. But Jamal, But Jamal Adams is 1019 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: a ready made beast who will be able to do 1020 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: everything from day one. I just don't he'll be a 1021 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: leader in your locker room from yeah one. But I 1022 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: just I don't think he'll be that. I don't know 1023 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: that he'll reach that Earl Thomas level. No, I don't 1024 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: think so. But he's very well rounded. He's you know, 1025 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: he he's not gonna hurt you out there. But I 1026 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,959 Speaker 1: think I and this is and I went to LSU, 1027 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 1: but I think I'd rather have the guy with the 1028 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: higher potential. I agree, So give me Hooker even though 1029 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 1: he hasn't be able to work out he's been injured 1030 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: one year. Guy, Yeah, I still take Cooker. Okay, sorry 1031 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: about there's checking to see if we get any pro 1032 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: dam page. I'm gonna get to these. I do want 1033 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: to get to the boys. Ye five minutes ago, just 1034 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: if you let me, I got a fournette to Carolina 1035 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: at eight. Cincinnati takes Derek Barnett from Tennessee. Boy, that's 1036 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: gonna hurt the Cowboys right there. But that's what you 1037 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,720 Speaker 1: thought all along. Top twelve type guy number ten, Buffalo 1038 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: takes Corey Davis. New Orleans at eleven takes Ruben Foster. 1039 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland at twelve takes Oj Howard. A lot of people 1040 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: have quarterback kind of thrown into that mix. But we'll 1041 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: see Arizona Deshaun Watson. That's thirteen. Philadelphia takes Christian McCaffrey 1042 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: at fourteen. That's an interesting addition, right thought. If I'm 1043 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan, I hate that. That's that's not good. 1044 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts take Hassan Riddick at fifteen. Baltimore takes Mike 1045 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: Williams at sixteen. Washington at seventeen takes Malik McDowell. Kind 1046 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: of a player. They kind of do that, they take, 1047 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: They take those guys, and you know these defensive ends 1048 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: nobody kind of. I mean you kind of some questions 1049 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: out ability he would play in for them. Yeah, I 1050 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: mean he could play both. I think yeah, I think 1051 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: he plays the appeal with him. Yeah. Tennessee with their 1052 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: second first round pick at eighteen, take In Joku tied 1053 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: in from Miami. Here's where he gets interesting. Tampa Bay 1054 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: at nineteen takes Mellofagu. Wow, damn there, and you don't 1055 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: like him? No, I mean, who saw Kean O'Neill and 1056 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: Karl Joseph both going top twenty last year. Good point, 1057 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, and I think Obi Melonfonimo was a prime 1058 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,959 Speaker 1: candidate to be overdrafted. Uh And I mean you guys. 1059 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: I saw you guys gushing about how he just looked 1060 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: in Oh, we saw him. You know, he's Kirk kurb 1061 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 1: Street gives out the awards for like who looks best 1062 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: in their uniform? Yeah, that guy, he does. Yeah, that's interesting. 1063 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: That would be that. I think that would catch Dallas 1064 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. By surprise, twenty eight feels high for Obie. 1065 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine if he goes top twenty. Ram 1066 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: Chick goes at twenty Detroit at twenty one takes t J. Watt. 1067 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: That's another one where Dallas kind of goes, oh, oh, 1068 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: is that a real pen drop or a fake penn No, 1069 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: that's a real one. That's a real mad. That's real mad. 1070 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: You know. Now you're now you're starting to panic a 1071 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: little bit because you're seven picks away, you know, and 1072 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: you're you're sitting there and you're you're starting to lose players. 1073 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: Read off the rest because I've I've got an idea here. 1074 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, we're going to rest. Get ready, and then 1075 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 1: an interesting one. Bowser Taias Bowser from UH from Miami 1076 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: takes him at twenty two the Giants Patrick Mahomes quarterback 1077 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: Texas techt twenty three, Oakland takes Dalvin Cook. Holy smokes, 1078 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 1: if Dalvin Cook makes it all the way to Oakland. 1079 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,959 Speaker 1: At twenty four, a man Reggie McKenzie, big hogshead cheese, 1080 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: is gonna be going nuts if that happens. Houston at 1081 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: twenty five takes Garrett. I always missed that one up 1082 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 1: bowls Utah tackle. Here's Seattle. Here's another one. Kevin King. 1083 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,439 Speaker 1: Dave helm now is upset. Dave throws his highlights. Yeah, 1084 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: this is at one. Twenty six Kevin Kelvin King goes 1085 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: to Seattle, Kansas City takes a Gerard Davis linebacker from Florida. 1086 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: And now it's Dallas is on the clock. Okay, And 1087 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: here's what I was gonna say. Let me tell you 1088 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: he's left on the board. Yeah, tell me who's left 1089 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, if Charles Harris is on the board, 1090 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: Tack McKinley is on the board, Fabian Moreau's on the board, 1091 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: Tabor's on the board, and Dane Burgler takes a Dorry Jackson. 1092 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: Explain yourself there, mister Burgler. This team likes him. This 1093 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: team likes a Dorry Jackson quite a bit. And I 1094 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: drop in knowledge, just dropping knowledge. I think at Dorry 1095 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: Jackson to me, I gave a second third round grade. 1096 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: I really worry about him in coverage. And that's that's 1097 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: what you want to hear. Yeah, exactly. But he's an 1098 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: elite athlete, and like, this is a player who had 1099 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: eight special teams touchdowns and we talked about it earlier, 1100 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: four on punts, four returns on kicks. H So he 1101 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: immediately helps you on special teams as a return man. 1102 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: And then at Dory Jackson's one of the top thirty visits. 1103 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: You know they're bringing them in. They're gonna do their 1104 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: research on him. I don't know. I think I think 1105 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 1: at Dorriy Jackson's gonna end up in the first Does 1106 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: you have the link that they like? I mean the length, 1107 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: the arm Lenk we've talked just I think it just enough. 1108 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean not he doesn't have Kevin King. Are you 1109 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: hoping here right now? It's it's not selling me on this. 1110 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: He's he's got what thirty thirty one and three eight. Yeah, 1111 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: just over thirty one. That's what you want as a corner. Yeah, 1112 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: that's and that's true. He doesn't that's the whole thing 1113 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have the height. But Will McClay tells 1114 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: you that he likes a corner with it has some reach. 1115 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: So here's what I was gonna say. I'll make my 1116 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: point quickly, and it works out perfectly. Dane has three 1117 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks going off the board. Deshan Kaiser still there when 1118 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,240 Speaker 1: they pick. He's got him going thirty two to New Orleans. 1119 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,439 Speaker 1: We also talked about Cleveland at thirty three. I think, 1120 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be my dream scenario in this instance, 1121 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: is to try to get out of twenty eight and 1122 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: get somebody to come up and get Kaiser. If I 1123 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: couldn't do that, I would draft either. So you're not 1124 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: liking the names. You're not liking Harris, I couldn't McKinley. 1125 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: If I couldn't do that, I would draft probably Tack, Yeah, 1126 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: which I never thought. I know. We've come full circle. Yeah, 1127 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: we've come What just happened? Yeah, I read a report 1128 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: because I had to write a story. I read a 1129 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: report that he thinks he can be ready by the 1130 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 1: end of camp. So I'm not that scared about the Labram, 1131 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: and I think he's the best possible option. Look at 1132 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: the smile on this guy's face. Hey, you investigated. They 1133 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: read the last stuff. Few picks before we get out 1134 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: of here. You got twenty nine Green Bay taking Gary 1135 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: on Conley, Pittsburgh taking a gamble on Jabril Pepper's Taco, 1136 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: Charlton to Atlanta, and Deshaun Kaiser rounding it out. Going 1137 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: to the same all right, David Hellman wants to go back. 1138 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: Dane Burglar thinks the Cowboys ought to take a look 1139 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: at a Dory Jackson. Not that they should, but they 1140 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: will and they have. It's not about what they should do, 1141 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: it now what he thinks they will do? Yeah, no, no, hey, 1142 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: and he's right. He's here for one of the thirty visits, 1143 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: which is going on right now. So okay, well, hey, 1144 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: thanks everybody out there. I want to thank Dame Burglo, 1145 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: David Helman, Kent Garrison for executive producer. I want to 1146 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: thank Derek Eagleton Taylor Stern for always helping us out. 1147 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys out there for listening 1148 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: with us. We'll be back tomorrow at eleven amorrow with 1149 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: some more of the Draft show. Take care. This has 1150 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 1151 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.