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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with

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Speaker 1: the story of the day.

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Speaker 2: So over the weekend, this really disturbing story broke out

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Speaker 2: of New Jersey. Of course, everything weird happens in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Apparently last month in Middle Township School district, they got

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Speaker 2: tipped off to this Facebook post made by a student's parent,

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Speaker 2: and in the post, the parent was alleging that the

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Speaker 2: fifth grade teacher's five year old son looked eerily similar

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Speaker 2: to his son, which was basically suggesting that the then

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Speaker 2: twenty eight year old teacher got pregnant with his then

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Speaker 2: thirteen year old son.

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Speaker 1: So once he did this Facebook post, how did things

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Speaker 1: go down? I guess my question is why would you why?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm a regular person that sends my children to school.

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Speaker 1: I just would never even think that my child was

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Speaker 1: having a relationship with their teacher like that. So there

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Speaker 1: had to be like way more to the story before

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Speaker 1: this guy put this post up, Like what did they

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Speaker 1: find out?

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Speaker 2: They have a very unusual background. I mean, as they

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Speaker 2: started explaining this story, You're just gonna be like, what

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Speaker 2: the f like things really aren't making sense. So after

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Speaker 2: the Facebook post was made, the school district got tipped

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Speaker 2: off and they had put the teacher on paid administrative

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Speaker 2: leave while they investigated the situation. And according to these

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Speaker 2: news outlets, it seems like when the Sun was in

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Speaker 2: fifth grade, he had this teacher. Her name's Lauren. So

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Speaker 2: I guess during some type of school activity or maybe

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Speaker 2: parent teacher night or whatever, the child who remains unnamed

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Speaker 2: the victim right now, his mother met the teacher whose

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Speaker 2: name's Lauren, and they formed a friendship. And then Lauren

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Speaker 2: started at some point suggesting that this woman could drop

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Speaker 2: her kids off at her house and she would watch them,

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Speaker 2: Which you have a kid in this same age group, right,

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Speaker 2: so like, would it ever be appropriate for their teacher

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Speaker 2: to be babysitting them?

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Speaker 1: No, it's probably crossing a boundary. Like when I went

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Speaker 1: to school, it was like, your teachers aren't real people, right,

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Speaker 1: just to think of them having a personal life and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But if you're I mean, at the kids last school,

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Speaker 1: I made friends with not one of the teachers, but

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Speaker 1: one of the administrative assistants and we hung out outside

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Speaker 1: of school. And I don't want have removed from the kids, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but if she was like, oh, can the

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Speaker 1: kids come hang out? I wouldn't feel any kind of

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Speaker 1: it was inappropriate. I guess it in its typical classic

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Speaker 1: public school situation like I went to when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, I would think like, yeah, that's just weird,

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Speaker 1: just because I was saying that there was a very distinct,

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Speaker 1: harsh boundary between teachers and students. I so what I

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Speaker 1: guess I would think it was weird because, like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: with the friend that I made at the other school,

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Speaker 1: she had a kid in Lucia's class, so they were

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Speaker 1: the same age and friends. And this woman doesn't have

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Speaker 1: any children. She just wanted kids to come stay at

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, so I think at first it started into like, hey,

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Speaker 2: watch the kids. And then they started staying overnight, which

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Speaker 2: I guess that could progress if you're friendly with the

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Speaker 2: parents and whatever, but I do personally think that's a

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Speaker 2: little weird. And then at some point it evolved to

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Speaker 2: all the kids living at her house permanently. So that's

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Speaker 2: a huge gap in the story that I'm having a

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Speaker 2: really difficult time understanding is why were the parents allowing

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Speaker 2: on in their life where they couldn't have them. I'm

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Speaker 2: really confused about that detail. But yeah, because that's really

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Speaker 2: unusual to let just let your kids live with their teacher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean you you hear all the time

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Speaker 1: grandparent lives in the better school district or something like that.

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Speaker 1: There are times, obviously when kids have to go live

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Speaker 1: there's I mean, did not happen with Ricky that he

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they used his dad's address and then

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Speaker 2: until his mom moved over there eventually. But I think

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Speaker 2: that's what you know, heavily frowned upon. But yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Though, like you hear stories of that sometimes that because

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Speaker 1: of the school system. But the kid was already in

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Speaker 2: This happened to us too though. When I was in school,

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Speaker 2: we had to move apartments and we were technically in

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Speaker 2: I know, so even though we were like, but I

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Speaker 2: new school because of it. But yeah, so whatever I was,

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Speaker 2: that's the only thing I could think of. Was it

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Speaker 2: one of those situations where she was already friends with

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Speaker 2: the parents and then they maybe had to sell their

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Speaker 2: house or move suddenly, and then the kids couldn't have

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Speaker 2: gone to the same school. And they were genuinely like,

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Speaker 2: we don't want to disrupt their life, but why not

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Speaker 2: just use her address. I don't know. I don't really

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Speaker 2: understand why they were living with her, but it seems

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Speaker 2: like they were living with her for a while, like

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Speaker 2: a couple of years. But anyway, the kids started off

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Speaker 2: And then there was a couple situations where the kids

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Speaker 2: been showering together. And then one of the siblings said

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Speaker 2: they questionably walked in on a sexual act with them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these are also little kids. They don't know

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Speaker 2: what they're seeing at first, right, so they might not

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Speaker 2: even register this is inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this you know what I feel like with all

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Speaker 1: of these, This is like a typical grooming situation that

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Speaker 1: you would say, right when an adult is just making

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Speaker 1: all of these behaviors like normalized for kids that it's

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Speaker 1: just so sad and disturbing to hear. But I have

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Speaker 1: a couple cases, like did you ever watch the documentary

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Speaker 1: on Michael Jackson called Finding Neverland?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did when it came out.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in years, but do you remember

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Speaker 1: it was a similar thing of like the mom letting

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Speaker 1: the kid hang out at Michael Jackson's and then he

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Speaker 1: just these very weird behaviors that were happening kind of

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Speaker 2: Well, I think this happens a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like every single time we tell a story

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Speaker 1: about this you hear, weren't we just talking about someone

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Speaker 1: recently that We were just like, why was the mom

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Speaker 2: What was that? I couldn't it. It'll come to me later, but.

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Speaker 1: You remember us talking about that though? Right that that

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Speaker 1: thereat Oh it was God, It's.

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Speaker 2: On the tip of my tongue. I know exactly what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about. This happens all the time because every

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Speaker 2: every family party or anytime with my friends are like,

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Speaker 2: you talked about the story. I'm like, we talk about

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Speaker 2: so many stories.

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Speaker 1: It was No, we didn't talk about it on here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we did. Anyway, it was about the

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Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer. Yeah, yeah, did we talk about that on

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Speaker 2: I don't think we did. But when you were away,

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Speaker 2: I did a two part di section on the Zodiac Killer,

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Speaker 2: and in the newer Netflix documentary, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: were criticizing that. Then no new information came out, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I beg to differ. I didn't know anything

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Speaker 2: about that family that was connected to him. But that's

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Speaker 2: a long story. But basically, he was like molesting this

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Speaker 2: a teacher. He was a teacher. Also all of well,

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Speaker 2: this suspect, nobody's been convicted in that case, which is

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Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous when you read all the evidence they had

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Speaker 2: against this guy. But he was a teacher. All the

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Speaker 2: victims were students. And then this one family, the Seawater family,

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Speaker 2: their mother was letting their kids that were in middle

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Speaker 2: going on overnight trips with this grown adult man and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so inappropriate, And we were just thinking, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's that's you know, especially the guy was single. There

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, you know, the mom was having an affair

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Speaker 2: with him too, or not in a she was having

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Speaker 2: a sexual relationship with him too. The Zodiac Killer And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever saw that Netflix thing

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Speaker 2: called Abducted in Plain Sight about this neighbor that was

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Speaker 2: then he was kidnapping the daughter. He kidnapped her two

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Speaker 2: times a right, it is the most going.

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Speaker 1: We're going off on a tangent here, get back regardless,

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Speaker 1: there was some stuff overird stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so all right, the kids are living with the

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Speaker 2: teacher and then eventually the teacher gets pregnant in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: so that would she would have been twenty eight years

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Speaker 2: So they're thinking she started having a sexual relationship with

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Speaker 2: him when he was eleven years old, and then when

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Speaker 2: are saying that he had confided in them that he

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Speaker 2: knew he fathered this child as a young teen, but

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Speaker 2: he didn't want her to get in trouble. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know why it took so long for this to

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Speaker 2: get pieced together by the parents. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of holes in this story.

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Speaker 2: There are, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Really interested in listening to this the trial of this case,

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Speaker 1: because it's I mean, just imagine being a school administrator

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Speaker 1: and getting a tip that someone posted that and not

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Speaker 2: The school that she.

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Speaker 1: Was working for really should have thought that it was

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Speaker 1: abnormal that one of their teachers essentially adopted but not

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Speaker 1: house and stuff. It's just it's very unusual situation.

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Speaker 2: I can't see a world in which they knew this

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Speaker 2: was going on, because I cannot, but I just refuse

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Speaker 2: to believe this is acceptable behavior or like that they

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Speaker 2: would allow this in any type of way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So one thing that's interesting is talking about little kids

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Speaker 1: and stuff like boys going through puberty and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: The ability to get a person pregnant, think sounds silly

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Speaker 1: And there's this this this age where you know, the

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Speaker 2: And wasn't he a dragon alcohol counselor draggonouseho counselor he's

437
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Speaker 2: being so difficult when they told him he was gonna

438
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Speaker 2: have to stay a couple of days longer because of

439
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: the holiday weekend. He was like rolling his eyes in

440
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Speaker 2: the court footage. I think he just pled not guilty too,

441
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: Which why are you dragging this out and torturing this family?

442
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 2: Both wives of the both players are pregnant, which I

443
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Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about that too, Like I'm definitely

444
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Speaker 2: not bringing this up to judge her or anything. I'm

445
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: just asking, is it it's my belief that it's generally

446
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Speaker 2: not advised to get tattooed when you're pregnant. I don't,

447
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Speaker 2: I don't.

448
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea. The reason is

449
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: is because when you get a tattoo, you could introduce

450
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Speaker 1: pathogens into your bloodstream, right, and that could be bacteria

451
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Speaker 1: off of your skin or anything like that. But when

452
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Speaker 1: you're pregnant, you're considered to be immunocompromised, so your your

453
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: immune system isn't working as great as it normally does.

454
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Speaker 1: So even if you get bacteria from your skin into

455
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Speaker 1: that cut that's being made with a tattoo needle, it

456
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: could set you up to have an infection and your

457
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Speaker 1: body might not heal as well from it. You might

458
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Speaker 1: get scarring that's associated with that. Like it's you're not

459
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Speaker 1: going to die if you get it done. I just think,

460
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Speaker 1: I say to most pregnant women, like it can wait,

461
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Speaker 1: just you don't have to get a tattoo. Now, just

462
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Speaker 1: wait nine months, get it when you're over with. Why

463
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Speaker 1: why introduce your body to to have to work on

464
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Speaker 1: something else when it's working on growing a fetus.

465
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, I don't think this is common knowledge for

466
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Speaker 2: people that don't have tencho.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm sure, I'm sure it's not. And but

468
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: getting a tattoo of of of cremated remains is a

469
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: it's a more popular thing now that it is. I

470
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Speaker 1: mean I think even twenty years ago, no one was

471
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: doing that, and now all of a sudden it's a thing,

472
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think it's fine.

473
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Speaker 1: You know, ashes are considered to be inert, meaning that

474
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: they that they're just there. They don't they can't get you.

475
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: They've been burned at such a high temperature. There's virtually

476
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: no way to cause an infection with them as far

477
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: as like transmitting anything like that. The biggest concern you

478
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: would have is for the tattoo artists themselves that the

479
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: chunks are too big and we clog up the machine.

480
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Speaker 1: But they could just pick smaller ones out of it,

481
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Speaker 1: like very fine cremated remains. So I think that it's fine.

482
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Speaker 1: I saw the tattoos that she got. They took two minutes.

483
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, they was probably they were really.

484
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Speaker 1: Really small, especially when you get a bigger tattoo piece.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to get tattooed for five minutes,

486
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Speaker 1: the risk of anything is just so much lower. But

487
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Speaker 1: when you and I've gotten this non pregnant all the

488
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Speaker 1: time tattoo sessions that are six hours, seven hours in

489
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Speaker 1: a row, I have an asthma attack. My body's under

490
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Speaker 1: stressed too long.

491
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Speaker 2: It's just it's just.

492
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Speaker 1: Not something that a pregnant person, in my opinion, should

493
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Speaker 1: put themselves through. But I think her particular circumstance, it's

494
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: just like she just went through the most horrible thing

495
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Speaker 1: that any person can go through.

496
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Speaker 2: I mean, go do it, you know what I mean? Yeah,

497
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Speaker 2: And there's so there's no way they took longer than

498
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Speaker 2: ten minutes. She got the word forever on one of

499
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Speaker 2: her finger. It looked to me in the photo like

500
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Speaker 2: it was her ring finger, which would make the most sense.

501
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: And then she got there. She's pregnant right now, but

502
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: she got their other two kids' names tattooed as well. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: I mean I don't have a problem with it. I

504
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: think it's I think it's a cool thing to do.

505
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: I don't think that it's gross at all. I would

506
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: do something like that probably. Yeah. Every time I hear

507
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: any story related to them, especially when their story is

508
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: about the asshole that hit and killed them, it just

509
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: it makes me so upset to think about everything, you know.

510
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this was a family, they had kids, It

511
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: happened the night before what was supposed to be like

512
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: a really important day for their sister and stuff. It

513
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 2: just really a horrific tragedy for the entire family. Yeah,

514
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: it really was. I will say though, the NHL has

515
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: been like super cool about honoring them, like they do

516
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: nights where they have his number and stuff on people's jerseys.

517
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: And because he was local to our area, the flyers

518
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: have been doing a lot to honor him too. So

519
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: that's really cool to see.

520
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, freak accidents all.

521
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: Right in India.

522
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Speaker 1: This ding this is a little bit of like I'm

523
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: like rolling into a little bit of a lighter story.

524
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Speaker 2: First of all, I could totally see this happening to

525
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 2: me or something. But in India, this chick was sitting

526
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: in a mesh office chair at work. I don't know

527
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: what happened. She was like facing the opposite way, you know,

528
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: when you're like straddling the chair backwards. It seemed like

529
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: she was doing that, and then she must have brushed

530
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: her face against the mesh lining on the back of

531
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Speaker 2: the seat and her nose ring got stuck in the mesh.

532
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Speaker 1: I really don't understand what the hell happened to this woman.

533
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: Her nose is stuck in the mesh area of the

534
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: it's the back of the chair, as if you were

535
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: kneeling on the floor and had your head against the

536
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: back of the chair. It's just so bizarre. I just

537
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: keep thinking over and overlooking at the picture. How did

538
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: what was she doing? And why was she in this position?

539
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: How did her face get that close to it?

540
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, I could totally see you're just

541
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: like you just sit in the chair like that to

542
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: be funny, and you're just like gabbing with all your coworkers,

543
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: and then you might just like turn your face down

544
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: for a second, maybe to like scratch your face or

545
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: something on the back of the chair. Now it's in

546
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: a weird spot though.

547
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Speaker 1: It looks like it was in the lumbar section of

548
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: the chair, Like if she was straddling a chair, I

549
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: could see you could sit on a chair from behind,

550
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't sit in a chair like that from

551
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: behind because the butt is scooped out, like you couldn't

552
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: straddle it comfortably.

553
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: Do you think that maybe she dropped something and she

554
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: was like bending over the chair looking for something, and

555
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: then that's when it got stuck.

556
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: No, because she's stuck in the lombar area.

557
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: I don't know.

558
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: It's like a really weird Did you see the chair?

559
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: It's like it looks like it's hard plass and it's

560
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: it's just a typical chair that has like a curved

561
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: Lombard backing that's plastic, and then it has a seat

562
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: that's like a scoop. So it was like her face

563
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: is facing towards where you would put the lombar area

564
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: of your spine on the inside of the chair. Like,

565
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: why was her face anywhere near there? I just don't

566
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: even understand. But anyway, well we're digressing here. That's that's

567
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: the thing. So I also think with them describing it

568
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: as a mesh backing, because you've seen chairs that are

569
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: mesh in the back. Yeah, if that happened to you

570
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: when you're here in the office, right, I would come

571
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: up to you right away and just get scissors and

572
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: cut the chair open.

573
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: Right. But it wasn't like fabric mesh. It seems like

574
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: it was plastic.

575
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was plastic mesh like you would like a

576
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: laundry basket or something.

577
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: So they had.

578
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Speaker 1: So they're wheeling this woman into the fire station like

579
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: with her face attached to the inside backing of this chair,

580
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: like it's so outrageous. And then she gets to the

581
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: fire station and typical firemen are like fucking around with her,

582
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: like holding up a huge axe, acting like that's how

583
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to cut it off of hers. It

584
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: was the pictures are just hilarious, and it's it's she

585
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, it's just freaking embarrassing.

586
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like torturing her, saying they were gonna

587
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: have to use an axe or a chainsaw to get

588
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: it off. But they were just trying to calm her

589
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: down because she was freaking out, I guess. But they

590
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: just were able to get it off with some flyers.

591
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, not that big of a deal at the

592
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: end of the day, but oh my.

593
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: God, still I still want to ask her how the hell, like,

594
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: what the hell she was doing? Like her, if she

595
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: was leaning over the chair in that way, her face

596
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: would have had to be laying on where you put

597
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: your butt, like the whole Like, there's no reason her head.

598
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Should have been there. I don't know. It's just I

599
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: don't know. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just like the craziest shit happened sometimes that you're

601
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Speaker 1: just like, how did that even happen?

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Speaker 2: A lot of stories involving children today and it just

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627
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Speaker 2: shit people are doing the little kids. Yeah, I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: All right, So last month, this twenty nine year old

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand. Well, this is what her excuse was.

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Speaker 1: She said that it was really cold outside and she

635
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636
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637
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Speaker 1: though the kid was inside of the suitcase wearing a

638
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Speaker 1: coat and it was thirty seven.

639
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Speaker 2: Oh nose out. It wasn't a family member, it was

640
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Speaker 2: her caseworker told her that it was okay to put

641
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: a kid in a suitcase, which I called bullshit. She

642
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: had a caseworker for what either for maybe parole or

643
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: for a previous complaint from Child Protective Services. But I

644
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: don't think any person working in child like in the

645
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: interest of the child is gonna say that's okay. Did

646
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Speaker 2: they look into that to see if that was well?

647
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: I think the cops are just calling bullshit in general.

648
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: They're like, the kid had a full winter coat on.

649
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: It was like only thirty seven degrees, which is cold,

650
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: but it's not that cold considering he was fully dressed

651
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: for the weather, So why was he put in the suitcase? Yeah,

652
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: there's absolutely you really shouldn't even have a child if

653
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Speaker 2: you have to ask somebody if this is okay. No,

654
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: just it's just like you're clearly not thinking. Really.

655
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: This is interesting that this story came up because Gabe

656
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: and I went away last weekend for our anniversary and

657
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: then we brought the kids to momm's house to stay

658
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: with her. So we had all of the suitcases upstairs,

659
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: and I was going to just bring the bigger one

660
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: because the girls just like to pack all of their

661
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: stuff to bring with them, right, and my bigger suitcase

662
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: was upstairs, and Lily and Lulu were putting each other

663
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: in the suitcase and like wheeling each other around in

664
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: the suitcase, right, And then I said, guys, like, this

665
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: is funny and all for two seconds, and they're older,

666
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: so like and we and mom and dad were right

667
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: there watching them for the five minutes they were doing it,

668
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: and it was kind of funny. We were all laughing

669
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: and stuff. But I'm just like, you guys know that, like,

670
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: you can't do this if you're not if mommy and

671
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Daddy aren't around, and there's no adults around, Like, don't

672
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: do this with another kid, because I was thinking about

673
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: my nephew and then being like going over to mo

674
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: Mom's house with my nephew there and them putting him

675
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: in there because he's so little, like he.

676
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: Would you know thing's happened with me and d D Right, Yeah, yeah,

677
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: I do, because I zipped Dede in there upstairs. I

678
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: ran downstairs. Somebody distracted me downstairs, and then pop up

679
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: was getting out of the shower and I like left

680
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: or right in front of the bathroom door, and then

681
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: luckily it was truly like two minutes. But that, yeah,

682
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: had been really bad.

683
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I know. It's like it's kind of a thing that

684
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: parents don't really think about, and it's a danger. So

685
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: we talked about a case back in April. I believe

686
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: that a woman had put her boyfriend into a suitcase

687
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: and zipped him up and he died from asphyxia.

688
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: Do you remember that. Yeah, So because we were like,

689
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: what were they even doing? They feel like they were

690
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: on drugs or something.

691
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, like this is a concern for

692
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: kids because you can die from number one, positional asphyxia.

693
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: So your body's in such a position that you can't

694
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: expand your rib cage in order to breathe properly as

695
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: it is, especially if it's a smaller suitcase, and then

696
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: just like closing up a suitcase altogether, and then that

697
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: lack of good oxygenated air, just the combination of it

698
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: can cause someone to die from an asphyxial death. So

699
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: suitcases are can be a danger to kids because kids

700
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: just want to They just do dumb shit all the

701
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: time and just don't think about it. But you're sitting

702
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: there talking to like a ten year old about the

703
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: dangers of a suitcase. A grown woman should know that

704
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: you absolutely don't put your child in a suitcase. I mean,

705
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: it's just common sense.

706
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: The fact that she had a caseworker makes me believe

707
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: that she was either in prison before or she had

708
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: a formal complaint and a social worker was visiting the house. Yeah.

709
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that. That's one hundred percent sure,

710
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: So I doubt the case worker said this was okay.

711
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: But the girl, I mean, when people get arrested, they

712
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: just say whatever to try to get out of trouble.

713
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Right. But well, she's smiling in the mugshot too, which

714
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: just makes me think she's like a total piece of shit. Yeah,

715
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: well it's not funny, Yeah, it really isn't. She probably

716
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: thinks it's like, can you believe I'm getting arrested for this? Like, yeah,

717
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: literally nobody is on your side. Actually, Well, speaking of

718
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: another asshole. Last April, this ten year old foster child

719
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: named Dakota had run over to his neighbor's house, begging

720
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: the neighbor to adopt him. He said that foster parents

721
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: had hit him in the face. Can you imagine a

722
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: little kid run into your house and begging for you

723
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: adopt them. No, that's so sad. So then the foster

724
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: mother finds the boy at the neighbor's house, and as

725
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: a way to punish him, she thinks it'll be a

726
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: good punishment to sit on him.

727
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, did we talk about this case. I think we

728
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: definitely did when it happened back in April. Well, anyway,

729
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: now she's getting she's getting convicted. Sure, she got convicted, right, she.

730
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: Got convicted, which I'm thinking is a little like five

731
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: years in prison. She sat on him until he died.

732
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: Over three hundred pounds one.

733
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: So he was ninety pounds so he's how old was he?

734
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: He was ten, so he's like Lilian's eleven and she's

735
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: about ninety pounds. So a child the size of Lilian

736
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: and a woman three hundred and forty pounds so morbidly

737
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: obese sitting on top of him to the point that

738
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: the medical examiner determined that his manner of death was

739
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: homicide and the cause of death was a mechanical asphyxiation,

740
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: which is the same manner of death you would get

741
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: give to someone who manually strangled someone to death.

742
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: She I mean him for his seven minutes.

743
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so I don't understand how she's getting such

744
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: a light sentence.

745
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: Well, she pled not guilty at first, and then she

746
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: switched it in October to guilty, So I guess she

747
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: made some type of plea deal. But like, you took

748
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: a person's life, you should be in prison for a

749
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: child's and in a horrific way. It wasn't you know,

750
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: not that it's every okay, but it's not like it

751
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: was some horrible accident. You intentionally sat on him for

752
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: seven minutes.

753
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: We have a story coming up later in this episode

754
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: about a foster slash adoption situation. I don't why would

755
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: you foster a child if you weren't if you were

756
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: abusive in nature? That Like, I understand you have kids

757
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: and they get on your nerves or whatever, but like,

758
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: if you don't have a kid, why are you even

759
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: introducing them into your life if you're not a person.

760
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: That's money they get like special tax incentives and all

761
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: these other benefits. That's why. Because there's a lot of

762
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: foster families, and I'm definitely not saying this is everybody.

763
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of foster families that are truly incredible

764
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: and do amazing things, but there are many. This is

765
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: not a rare situation where kids are abused. In these situations,

766
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: I just don't understand. And it sucks because there are

767
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: really good people out there in the world that foster

768
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: children and do an incredible job of taking care of

769
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: them and make them feel like they're in this loving situation.

770
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: And then there's pieces of shit like this that have

771
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: no right to be doing this, and now, in my opinion,

772
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: are getting off on this light sentence.

773
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like they should give her

774
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: a harsh sentence to kind of send a message out

775
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: that it just makes me sad because it just makes

776
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: me think that this child's life didn't really matter.

777
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, And it's really

778
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: shitty even in death, Like it's already bad enough if

779
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: a child has to go onto the foster system as

780
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: it is, it's just like so sad and they're like, oh,

781
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: she can't foster kids anymore, Well, I hope not. Yeah,

782
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: what you shouldn't be allowed to at all. Yeah, this

783
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: is like, it's it's weird that that's all she's gotten.

784
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: All right. In Romania, this guy said he was planning

785
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: to jump this fence at a hospital, hoping to steal

786
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: plastic bottles so he could get some cash for them.

787
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: But unknowingly he entered this area where there was a

788
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: lot of medical waste and he stole three bags that

789
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: did not have bottles but had amputated legs. Simple mistake. Simple.

790
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: I talked about this many times.

791
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: If you get your leg amputated at the hospital, we

792
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: can't keep them with the normal specimens that we normally have.

793
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: If you have like a uterus or something, you could

794
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: put in a jar and keep in a storage closet

795
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: for a longer period of time.

796
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: But the issue with legs.

797
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: Is that they decompose and they could only be in

798
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: the refrigerator for so long. They they're bulky, So you

799
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: have I mean, you would think that a lot of

800
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: people aren't getting their limbs cut off, but in certain hospitals,

801
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: especially with legs gangerine and stuff, you can get multiple

802
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: legs a week and they start they're big, and they

803
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: start building up in the fridge and then you usually

804
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: put them down into the morgue, and we keep them

805
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: for like a little bit, and then once the pathology

806
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: signed out and everything, then we have to get rid

807
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: of them. And the only way to get rid of

808
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: them is to incinerate them with the medical waste, with

809
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the medical waste from the hospital. So

810
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: what happened in this case, because I used to do

811
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: this all the time. We would put a bunch of

812
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: the legs in a storage drum or something like that

813
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: and bring it down with other trash and it goes outside,

814
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: you know that, with the rest of the trash. So

815
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: it was all sitting out there. It seems like at

816
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: the dock where the bottom of the morgue was of

817
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: the hospital, and this guy, just not knowing the rules

818
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: of what happens, he just sees a bunch of trash

819
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: and thinks he's going in to steal probably trash from

820
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: the cafeteria or something like, just not even thinking about it,

821
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: and takes it. The problem is is that he leaves

822
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: and he's got three human I don't know if it

823
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: was arms, legs, what it just said limbs, And they

824
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: were able to get two of them back, but they

825
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: don't know where the other.

826
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: One is I thought it was all legs.

827
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: So, like, listen, most people, most of the time when

828
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: you get an amputation, like last week we talked about

829
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: that woman who had to get an arm amputation for cancer,

830
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: it's just it's not very common to get arms because

831
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the legs are more prone to get gangering, and that's

832
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: the most common reason that you would get amputations. So

833
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: a majority of the amputations in the hospital are legs,

834
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: but there are arms thrown in there sometimes, I don't,

835
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just like not commonly. Sometimes

836
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: we've gotten traumatic amputations because of trauma, like a woman

837
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: getting hit by a bus or something like that, you

838
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

839
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Well, before they caught him and they see all of

840
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: this on surveillance footage, right, and then they found two

841
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: of the limbs. They that one was within hospital premise

842
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: near the medical waste area and the other was on

843
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: a street nearby the medical facility. So imagine just stumbling

844
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: upon a trash bag with somebody's women in it. And

845
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: then they said the third leg is still mia So

846
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: that's great.

847
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't I honestly, I kind of believe

848
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: the guy, Like I don't think that he was trying

849
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: to purposely start trouble.

850
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Well, I think if he kept them, you could argue

851
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: that he was stealing them for whatever nefarious intention he had.

852
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: But I think the fact that he dumped them, he

853
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: probably went around the corner, looked in the bag, screamed,

854
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: and then dropped the bags on the ground. Yeah, exactly.

855
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: And you have to be pretty desperate anyway, if you're

856
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: stealing trash to be trying to collect it to get money, right,

857
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: So this person is clearly at that level of their life.

858
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: To do that anyway.

859
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 1: And I don't think, like if I told you, would

860
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: you know what was in those bags, Like, we don't.

861
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: We don't try to advertise it to the outside customers

862
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: of the High Hospital that there's like human limbs and

863
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: trash bags in the back of the hospital, you know

864
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like.

865
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: We try to keep its coming out.

866
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: It's just it freaks people out a little bit, you

867
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like if they That's why we

868
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: don't release bodies through the front door, because you don't

869
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: want to see dead people leaving the hospital when you're

870
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: going in to get treated.

871
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to keep you know.

872
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: We put the Morgan in the basement you try to

873
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: keep it like very hidden because you don't want people

874
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: to think anybody dies at the hospital. This is what

875
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: was so funny about the whole entire pandemic situation because

876
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: they were doing this, like do you believe the ticker

877
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: with the people dying and you're just like, yeah, people

878
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: die every single day all day. You just don't think

879
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: about it because we hide it, you know what I mean.

880
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: But I think the media is now like since we're

881
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 2: kind of removed from that time period at this point,

882
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: the media is getting so scrutinized for having the death thicker.

883
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean it is so outrageous and unnecessary, total fear mongering.

884
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: Like who thought that was a good idea?

885
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, it will a good idea for

886
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 1: the media because when you have people scared to death,

887
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: they're tuned in and then you're making money. Like that's

888
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: that's what they did and it worked right. But yeah,

889
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: just to get back.

890
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it. I don't blame the guy. I

891
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: don't know, just.

892
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to like he committed a

893
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: crime stealing something, but like I do think it was

894
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: an accident, Like I just want to know where the

895
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: other limb is and and the hospital wants to know

896
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: just because they could. You know, they have responsibility for

897
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: it because it was in their thing and you don't

898
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: want anybody to stumble across that.

899
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: They it did say that they the hospital was fine

900
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: by authorities for mishandling the legs. I guess because the

901
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: area they were in was unlocked and unsupervised, so it

902
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: was easy, too easy for the guy to get them.

903
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I mean I understand that, I don't I

904
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: don't really know in our circumstance, Like we wouldn't just

905
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: put them outside, right, it would be like wait till

906
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: the person comes in, picks it up and let them

907
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: in to take the trash.

908
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: So I do understand that there's there.

909
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be really any of that kind of stuff that

910
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: that is biohazard waste just because or specimens or anything

911
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: that has like patient information on it. Like everything needs

912
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: to be thrown out in a certain kind of way.

913
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: So I can see if they had it, if that

914
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be there that but he kind of

915
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: went in he like it looked like he went in

916
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: a door that was open, like he broke and entered

917
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: a building.

918
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess they're arguing it should have been locked.

919
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, but but like think about that, like

920
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: think about real life though, Like I'm just thinking about

921
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: when we used to do this. If the door's propped

922
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: open because you're bringing stuff in and out of the hospital,

923
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: and like the guy working there is just like, hey,

924
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom real quickly. It's

925
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: just and that was the opportunity the guy took to

926
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 1: go into the hospital when the door was wedged open

927
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: like that.

928
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: We I mean, listen, I just had this situation similarly

929
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago when I had my green

930
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 2: door opened because I had just gone on my front

931
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: porch to get something and I did lock it, but

932
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: sometimes I forget, and then this old woman tried to

933
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: come in my house. So like it happened, It definitely happens,

934
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: but well, that's your fault. Then it would have been

935
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: my fault for keeping the door unlocked. But I was

936
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: thankful that I unconsciously did it, because that would have

937
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: been like a whole thing. Huh.

938
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Did you ever find out what happened with that lady?

939
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: No? I didn't. I mean, I just like some.

940
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: Rando old lady completely out of her mind walks it.

941
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: Did I say this on here?

942
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

943
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: I think you might have. I was in my bathroom

944
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: and then I heard somebody trying to open my front door,

945
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: and I got really scared because you know, in the

946
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: episode of Lauren I was talking about like I broke

947
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: in our house and everything, and I have like very

948
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: very faint residual PTSD from that. So I heard somebody

949
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: trying to open the door, and I got really scared,

950
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: and it ended up being this like older woman. I

951
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: have no idea where she came from. By the time

952
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: I got to the door, she was across the street

953
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: trying to go into my house who was on vacation,

954
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: And so I called the non emergency line and was

955
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know if she's like having a

956
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 2: situation because she was wearing like a bathrobe and slippers

957
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: and stuff. But I don't know if she needed help

958
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: and whatever. But she kind of just like disappeared up

959
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: somebody's driveway, So I don't know if she lived there

960
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: or I don't know what happened. I did call the

961
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: police department to let them know to look into it,

962
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: and they I saw they drove by, but they never

963
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: It's not like they're gonna call me and be like,

964
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: this is what happened. Here's a follow up. Yeah, here's

965
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: a follow up. They don't care. Okay, medical news, all right,

966
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: So this is the story you were referencing earlier about

967
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: an adopt a kid. So this new documentary dropped on

968
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: Max last week called an Update on Our Family. I

969
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: did tune into it yesterday, but of course there's only

970
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: one episode available right now, and they tie you in

971
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: right at the juicy end and now I want to

972
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: know every detail of this. But the documentary goes into

973
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: some stories about family YouTube channels like you know, mommy

974
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: bloggers and stuff, and people documenting what it's like to

975
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: be a mother and their family and all of that stuff.

976
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: So they focus specifically on this one family called the

977
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: Stop for Family This Check. Micah had started this YouTube

978
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: channel a long time ago when she was a single mom.

979
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: At some point, she meets this guy named James, they

980
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: get married, they start having kids, and then their YouTube

981
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: channel just explodes with her talking about pregnancy and her

982
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: life being a mom, and you know, documenting all the

983
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: intimate details. She even had an instance where she did

984
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: a live pregnancy test and then she told all her

985
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: followers she was pregnant, and then she ended up having

986
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: a miscarriage. She took them through that whole journey and

987
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: everything too, So people that were interviewed said they really

988
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: liked her because she was very open and intimate and

989
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: showed the good and the bad side, which we don't

990
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: always see the bad side on people's social media. Everything

991
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: like that. So fast forward to twenty seventeen, Micah and

992
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: James have a couple kids and they decide they're going

993
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: to adopt a kid from China. So after this whole

994
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: long process that they're documenting every single star up the way,

995
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: they announced that they're adopting this little toddler boy from

996
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: China that they're gonna name Huxley. So they you know what,

997
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: I won't even say anything. I just name the name.

998
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Like the name just tells the name of that kid

999
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: tells me everything else I need to know about this case. Well,

1000
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: I think a little bit in the documentary to the

1001
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: reporter that wrote all this article talking about what happened

1002
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: with them was a big reference point for the documentary.

1003
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: So they had been interviewing the reporter and she also

1004
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: seemed to.

1005
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Be rolling her eyes at that time, because that is

1006
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: very typical of somebody like that to name a kid

1007
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: something like that. So, yeah, she's documenting the whole process

1008
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: of adopting the boy, and then once they get the boy,

1009
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: the whole process of integrating him into the family, and

1010
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: then around twenty twenty, her followers, which is around seven

1011
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube, that's a lot, realize the

1012
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: boy is not appearing in the videos, but the other

1013
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: children are, and then they do this video called an

1014
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: Update on our Family, which is why they called the

1015
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 2: docu series.

1016
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: It's such a genius title too.

1017
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: And they explained that when they got the kid, he

1018
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: had some special needs they weren't prepared for, and therefore

1019
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: they rehomed him. They like the fucking dog.

1020
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: They literally used the word rehomed. They rehomed a child.

1021
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: A little boy. Which you know, what this article we're

1022
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: referencing didn't really get into, which they did in the docuseries,

1023
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: is that she had all these videos talking about how

1024
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: they knew they were potentially going to be getting a

1025
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: kid with special needs and how they were up for it.

1026
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: So like, so she had said that.

1027
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: She had said that they were rehoming him because he

1028
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with developmental disabilities, and then I saw other

1029
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: articles saying that he had autism, and then she didn't

1030
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: know about it. Guess what, Like, not one person, because

1031
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: there's no test to diagnose autism in utero, not one

1032
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: person that has an autistic child knows their fucking kid's

1033
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna have autism. Like that's just the dumbest shit I

1034
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: ever heard.

1035
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 2: Of my life.

1036
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: You don't get to just like pick a perfect child

1037
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: that you get to raise. One of the really crazy

1038
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: things about this is that in that update on their family,

1039
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: they said that they had multiple assessments and evaluations for

1040
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: medical professionals who agreed he needed a home better equipped

1041
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: to support him. Now, like I just said, no parent

1042
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: knows that they're having a child with autism, So every

1043
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: single parent theory has to equip their home to take

1044
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: care of their autistic children. She's a nurse, by the way,

1045
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: she was a former nurse, and she's just acting like

1046
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: she can't take care of this kid, and doctors are

1047
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: basically telling her to put the kid in a house

1048
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: that's better to take care of him. To me, it's

1049
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: just like no, Like I got this kid, and I

1050
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: thought that I could deal with him, and it's it's

1051
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: ruining our perfect little family and I just need him

1052
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: to go away.

1053
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: Why because she can't monetize the kid? Like, seriously, what

1054
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: that could possibly be the excuse for? Listen, at the

1055
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: end of the day, I want to say, if they

1056
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: knew they didn't want this child, I'm happy that he

1057
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: is with a family that actually wants him and loves

1058
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: him like he should be loved, right, But you can't

1059
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 2: rehome a kid like a dog, like.

1060
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: And the kid's already rehomed. He's adopted. He just came

1061
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: from another country and she adopted him or they adopted

1062
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: him when he was two years old, so he already

1063
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: has a lived life somewhere else and and now you

1064
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: brought him here. Why why did they.

1065
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: Adopt this kid? Anyway?

1066
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: They already had three kids and then they had another

1067
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: kid after him, Like what was did they did she

1068
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: talk about?

1069
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: Like the reason?

1070
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that, like people do that kind

1071
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: of stuff all the time because they're trying to give

1072
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: a child a good life and stuff. But it doesn't

1073
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: seem like that's what Obviously, that wasn't what her intentions

1074
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: were because there were stipulations as long as the kid

1075
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: was perfect.

1076
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: You know, it seemed like what they were trying to

1077
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: get at in the docuseries so far is that every

1078
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: time she made a video taking a pregnancy test or

1079
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: talking about the miscarriage or something like that, she would

1080
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: get like an astronomical amount of views and followers from it,

1081
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: which would increase her monetization. Right, Like, this video is

1082
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: going on YouTube. We know how that works behind the scenes.

1083
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: So every time she's posting something along those lines, she's

1084
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: getting more views and more followers. And they were saying

1085
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: that this adoption process and her being so transparent about

1086
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: every single step really just boosted the views. They kept

1087
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 2: jacking them up, jacking them up, jack of them up.

1088
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: By the time in twenty twenty, she had almost a

1089
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 2: million subscribers. That is so many subscribers.

1090
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: So this this didn't come up like suddenly though, Like

1091
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: I know that you said that people were like, hey,

1092
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: where's that kid. But she did mention a few times

1093
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: that she was dealing with issues with him, And one

1094
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: of the ones that it is really shocking is that

1095
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: she was she was told that I guess she knew

1096
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: to some extent that the kid was going to have

1097
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: some kind of disabilities, but didn't know exactly what. And

1098
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even go as far to say the adoption

1099
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: agency lied. I mean, you're going through the adoption process

1100
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: and the kid's two years old, Like you don't know

1101
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: the extent of it.

1102
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: Nobody does.

1103
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: Like you have to sit there and get them tested

1104
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: and wait over the course of years.

1105
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: It's not something you know right away. Right.

1106
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: The kids just starting to learn how to walk and

1107
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: talk and everything like that. That just takes a minute

1108
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: to be able to really see the true extent of

1109
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: someone's intellectual disability. But she was saying, like wondering how

1110
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: her life was going to look with what kind of

1111
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: arrangements would need to be made in the home, what

1112
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: kind of medical treatments would he need? And he was

1113
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: She was complaining about like downgrading some of the treatments

1114
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: because of money issues, right, But then one of her

1115
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: followers saw that she was wearing an eighteen carrot carti,

1116
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: a bracelet that at the time was worth over six

1117
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars.

1118
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: That's how much it costs. Yeah, and she's.

1119
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: Complaining about about treatment and this and that. It's just like,

1120
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: if let's say For example, one of her biological children

1121
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: had this, like, you can't just give a kid back.

1122
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You can't rehome a kid.

1123
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: This is exactly what I'm talking about. I think you

1124
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: know this. This topic comes up all the time of

1125
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: these children being on these YouTube channels. I just I

1126
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: don't think it's right. I think if you're a content

1127
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: creator and you want to share pictures of your family

1128
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: and everything, that's up to you. But once you start

1129
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: putting them to work and they're contributing to your wealth,

1130
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: it starts crossing a line. And I think that he

1131
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: didn't fit into her perfect little life on her YouTube channel,

1132
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: and it was gonna be like maybe they had to

1133
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: put some stuff in their house that wasn't gonna make

1134
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: their house that perfect clean cut look or whatever it was.

1135
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: And they were gonna see his medical equipment or whatever

1136
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: they needed for him in the background, or it was

1137
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: gonna take her time away from making videos which makes

1138
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: them money. It's sickening to think about it.

1139
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Do you think they adopted this kid just for like

1140
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: a click situation?

1141
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of do, so I went I kind.

1142
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: Of heard about this case a little bit. But last

1143
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: night when this story came out that I'm glad they're

1144
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: doing a documentary on it that I went on her

1145
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: Instagram page and I scrolled back a long time and

1146
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: she deleted She hasn't posted really anything since like two since.

1147
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: This to how he's been totally and mia since this,

1148
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: but her husband has not been. He has a YouTube

1149
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 2: channel with one point two million subscribers where he still

1150
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: actively posts regularly. And I was looking at what does

1151
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: he do. He takes videos like powerwashing cars and like

1152
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: fixing them up.

1153
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: But well, I'm sure a lot of people that are

1154
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: watching his videos don't even realize that that he's associated

1155
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: like with any of this, because if they don't talk

1156
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: about it, how would you know unless you're like reading

1157
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: news articles and stuff.

1158
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: And I was going back through I was on the

1159
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: last couple of videos looking at the comments, and I

1160
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: only saw one that was really recent calling them out

1161
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 2: on what they did. So I don't know if somebody

1162
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: is just really in my opinion, there's no way they're

1163
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: not getting trolled regularly. I mean, it's pretty public information

1164
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: that this guy's the father in the situation and that

1165
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: this happened, So I feel like they have somebody really

1166
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: on top of the comment section deleting anything negative.

1167
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: So the kid, so luckily the kid has.

1168
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: I just can't I really can't believe this.

1169
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: When you're reading the article, you're just thinking they're talking

1170
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: about a freaking a chihuahwah or something like You're you're

1171
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: just like, you're literally talking about a human being right now.

1172
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: She said that.

1173
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: They were interviewing people. That's another thing I have questions about.

1174
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: If you're rehoming your adopted child, do you get to

1175
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: pick the next family that's taken the kid? I mean,

1176
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: And it seemed like she was doing interviews on people

1177
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: who would be best for him.

1178
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: It's just so weird.

1179
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: And so she hasn't posted since twenty twenty and deleted

1180
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: any pictures of the kid off of her Instagram, but

1181
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: still keeps her Instagram account open.

1182
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: It's very weird. I don't know why she keeps it open.

1183
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: I could see her leaving the YouTube channel up because

1184
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: she'll still continue to make money off of the videos

1185
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: even if she's not posting anything new, and people are

1186
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: obviously going back and trying to look at all the

1187
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: old stuff. Is this legal to rehome a child?

1188
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Well? Once, once you take a child on like that,

1189
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: you're just essentially saying, like, this child is legally my child.

1190
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: Now it's mine.

1191
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: How could you just be if you were a mom

1192
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: who just said I don't want to handle this kid anymore.

1193
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know this kid's medical issues, just she

1194
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: they should go to a different house. I mean, you

1195
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: can't just like give your kid to someone else like that,

1196
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: can you.

1197
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't.

1198
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't really, you know, it's it's so outrageous because

1199
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: you'd never even hear of these things happening because they're

1200
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: so outrageous.

1201
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: It's it's just really disgusting behavior. I don't know really

1202
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: what happened behind the scenes, but like, let's say he

1203
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: even attacked one of her kids or something because of

1204
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: his condition, Like you're that kid's mom now, and that

1205
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: could happen with your biological kids too, So are you

1206
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: just gonna give up whatever? One of your biological kids

1207
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: ain't perfect either. I don't know.

1208
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: But the silver lining of this story is that the

1209
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 1: child is no longer named Tuxley. I think that that's

1210
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 1: the best thing that's ever happened to this kid.

1211
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: No, I do. At the end of the day, we're

1212
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: saying all this stuff about how it's fucked up to

1213
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: put him with a different family. But I think, I

1214
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: really think at the end of this, it's probably better

1215
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: off for him that he ended up because the one

1216
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: hundred people they're monsters is better for him. Also, it's

1217
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: like like she shouldn't really be able to keep her

1218
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: other children either. This is like a borderline. I don't know.

1219
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: It's such a it's such a weird territory because you

1220
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: never even hear about things like this happening. But like

1221
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: that would scare me to just let her have her

1222
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: other kids. Like what if she gets a kid that's sick,

1223
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: like her kid ends up having cancer or something. Is

1224
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: she gonna not give the kid treatment and everything.

1225
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't. I don't understand it.

1226
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: She's just such I mean, I don't want to just

1227
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: say she because the husband is equally as responsible.

1228
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: They're just scumbag people. I want to talk about the

1229
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: name situation too. The kid obviously had a name. They

1230
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: didn't get him until he was like two years old,

1231
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: so he already had a name and they already changed it.

1232
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: And then I'm assuming the new family changed his name.

1233
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: Because of the high profile nature of the switch, yeah,

1234
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: and because who the fuck is named Huxley? Like so

1235
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: like of.

1236
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: Course there's probably plenty of people, like I could do

1237
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: a list of names. You're going to see it in

1238
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: next year's Pottery Barn Christmas catalog on his stocking embroidered.

1239
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: It's also fucked up to change a child's name three

1240
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: times in their when they're little kids.

1241
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: No, this kid's it's like got and fucked it. This

1242
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: is the thing too. They they were saying that when

1243
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: they went to pick the kid up that was living

1244
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: with the foster parent, that the kid was attached to

1245
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: the foster parent, and it was like obviously right, yeah,

1246
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: and the dad had said in a previous episode that

1247
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: it was very upsetting to take him away from then

1248
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: you lost got rid of them after three years, yes,

1249
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and not to mention that this kid had attachments with

1250
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: their siblings, like those kids are like his siblings, you know.

1251
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: What I mean?

1252
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: How long did they have the kid altogether?

1253
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: Till he was five? Yeah? I think they got him

1254
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen and then by maybe twenty maybe they

1255
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: only had him two years because people started calling them

1256
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: out in like twenty twenty about why he wasn't appearing

1257
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: in this.

1258
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: But like even think about their own children, Like you're

1259
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: just like giving away their brother, Like how do they

1260
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: feel about that? They don't understand.

1261
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: The whole thing is so messed up. I don't know

1262
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: who could possibly defend this. Once you take a child

1263
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: and that as your child, it doesn't matter how they are,

1264
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: if they're sick or whatever, that is your responsibility. And

1265
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 2: it's really fucked up, all right. Next story, this is

1266
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: another This is a doozy. So this one's from the

1267
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: Reddit forum am I the Asshole? Which We've had a

1268
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: couple stories come from this forum and they're always pretty entertaining.

1269
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: But this chick is saying she got engaged, her family

1270
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: was really excited, and then of course comes in the

1271
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: asshole sister. That's like questioning the ring, saying it's flashy

1272
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: and then questioning if the girl's fiance could even afford

1273
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: the ring. So then she explains that it was a

1274
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: lab grown diamond, which would make it a cheaper diamond.

1275
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: And then this just starts like the sister fight of

1276
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: the Sentry, right, And I'm sure everybody with a sibling

1277
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: could agree that nobody could get under your skin quite

1278
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: like a sibling, and even though I have a twenty

1279
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: year age gap with the girls, they still know how

1280
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: to push my buttons. But basically, the sister got really

1281
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: pissed about the diamond being lab grown and just said

1282
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the same sentimental value because it was

1283
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: made in a lab, and it's not a real diamond

1284
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: because it was made in a lab. And then the

1285
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: sister got pissed because the sister challenging the ring just

1286
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: would not let it go. So she went back at

1287
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: her and was like, well, is your daughter not a

1288
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: real daughter because she was an IVF baby and she

1289
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: was technically grown in a lab too.

1290
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: So Hoti, so what do you think about this? I'm

1291
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: just curious.

1292
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: I think that I think I don't think it's okay

1293
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: to say that, but I think that the sister set

1294
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: herself up for it. Like if the engaged sister just

1295
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: brought that up out of nowhere and was like, your

1296
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: kid's not a real kid because she was grown in

1297
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: a lab, I think that's something really horrible you're saying

1298
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: to somebody. Because she later was going on to detail

1299
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Speaker 2: of the sister had really hard time getting pregnant and

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01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: how it was like a really emotionally taxing thing for

1301
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: the family and everything. So I think if you have

1302
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: that attitude in general that an IVF baby shouldn't be

1303
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: considered a real baby because a couple couldn't naturally conceive

1304
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: the kid, that is a fuck up ideology. But I

1305
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: think because of the fight, it was like a crime

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: of passion of sorts. Right, you're fighting. Your sister just

1307
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: won't get off your dick about your engagement for being

1308
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: lab grown, which is honestly none of her business. Who cares,

1309
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: And then it was just the only thing she could

1310
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: throw back at her that was like a comparison.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually sad that the one sister is a mother

1312
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: because she acts like a fucking toddler. Yeah, like your

1313
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: your sister gets engaged and has a bigger diamond ring

1314
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: than you, and you're like going to downgrade it because,

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01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: by the way, a lab diamond is is a real diamond.

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01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: It's not that it's not real, it's just it's like

1317
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: having this is honestly, like, this is how I think

1318
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: of it. It's like growing tomatoes in my backyard versus

1319
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: getting hydroponic ones that are grown in a farm that

1320
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: tastes way better. Kind of it's the same exact thing.

1321
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: Like they're both tomatoes, but like one of them is

1322
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: grown under conditions to be perfect and round and flavorful,

1323
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: and the other one's grown outside, and it just takes

1324
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's just a little bit of a

1325
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: different situation. It's the same thing. It's just grown in

1326
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,959
Speaker 1: a lab. It originates from the same thing. They say,

1327
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: like you have to be a super expert to even

1328
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: be able to tell the difference between them, because you're

1329
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: just growing it in a lab versus growing it naturally

1330
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: occurring outside. It's kind of the same exact thing.

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01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: I don't think the engaged sister would have ever said

1332
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: the thing about IVF if she was not being berated,

1333
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: And I think I think.

1334
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: It's a genius, Like I think it was genius for

1335
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: her to say that to her, like that shut her

1336
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: the fuck up, right, She needed to be shot the

1337
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: fuck op, So this was perfect to say to her.

1338
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: And most people on Reddit were on her side, So

1339
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: I think that is a general consensus, right, But I

1340
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: think you have to for any people. Again, I think

1341
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: the people that were against it were like, you're both

1342
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 2: children and you need to get your shit together.

1343
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I mean, but really it starts with the

1344
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: one that started it. It's just so it's so petty,

1345
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: it's just so petty.

1346
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: Like mind your business. Of course that was. You know,

1347
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 2: if you're fighting with anybody but your sibling and they're

1348
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: just pressing every button and it's like not even their

1349
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: business to begin with, of course you're gonna say the

1350
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 2: most hurtful, fucked up thing you can because you're just

1351
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: like black outrage at that point.

1352
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1353
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a right statement to make in general.

1354
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: I think if they were sitting at a family dinner

1355
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: and no fight was happening, and she just said, you know,

1356
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: my niece isn't a real baby because she's an IVF baby,

1357
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: then you're fucked up for saying that. If you're gonna

1358
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: use it argument with your sister's starting shit with you,

1359
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 2: and you're just trying to give her an example of

1360
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: why she's wrong. I don't know. They gotta they gotta

1361
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: work on their relation. I think she was, yeah, they do, okay. Next,

1362
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: recently this Only Fans check, Bonnie Blue broke a world

1363
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: record by having sex with over one thousand men in

1364
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: one day. But now today another girl on only Fans

1365
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: named Lily Phillips will be having anal sex with as

1366
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: many guys as possible. How do you think it's going

1367
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: so far? It's happening right now.

1368
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna say something that's that's really unpopular for

1369
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: the time that we're in.

1370
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: Right now, we've went through this.

1371
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: Whole thing of like we're not allowed to call people

1372
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: prostitutes anymore, and they're sex workers and this is a

1373
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: legitimate career, and I just think it's terrible for women.

1374
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: It's just fucking terrible, Like we don't we're.

1375
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: Putting articles out and raising up these women who are

1376
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: talking about having sex with people for money, and like,

1377
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: just that's all you're good for is to use your

1378
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: body to let someone fuck your asshole. Think about this,

1379
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: Like that's what you're good for. How is that good

1380
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: for women? I don't know.

1381
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna back at you and say that's a boomer

1382
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 2: way of looking at it. Oh well, then I'm the

1383
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: fuck out of me. Is so bad that we have

1384
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: to it's not not just telling you what people are

1385
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: gonna copect that's.

1386
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: Bullshit, because then everybody would have to and that's just bullshit.

1387
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, I just I don't want to hear it.

1388
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: It's she she got so she had sex with one

1389
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: hundred and one men a couple months ago for in

1390
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: fourteen hours. And I didn't even talk about this story

1391
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: because the whole thing obviously you could tell that I

1392
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: get heated about it as it is. But she said

1393
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: after the interview, she said, quote, I don't know if

1394
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: I would recommend it. It's kind of like being a

1395
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: prostitute in a sense. In a sense, No, it is,

1396
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: because you're making money off of having sex with people,

1397
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: and it's a different feeling. I don't know how to

1398
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: explain it, saying she felt disconnected and all this stuff. Yeah,

1399
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: because you're like bending over and letting strangers stick their

1400
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: penis in your hole. Of course, there's no sense of attachment.

1401
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: And how does that make you feel empowered and better

1402
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: and making little girls who are looking up to you

1403
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 1: and women feel better about themselves.

1404
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: It's like, it's.

1405
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be pointing people towards this as a career.

1406
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm just sorry.

1407
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say, like, I think, you know,

1408
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: the argument of making sex for money is they've been

1409
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: trying to shift like the marketability of it lately, right,

1410
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 2: saying sex worker having only fans making it more acceptable

1411
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: as somebody to do that as a job. But it

1412
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: makes it hard to see it that way as a

1413
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: millennial myself, when people are doing these like challenges and

1414
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: trying to see how many people they can have sex

1415
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: within a day, and you know, putting their health at risk,

1416
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 2: and you know there's all these problems you can have.

1417
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a risk of tearing in general, write

1418
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: physical things, and then there's a risk of disease. And

1419
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: then like you're saying, of course, it's not an intimate

1420
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: thing because you're having sex with as many people as possible.

1421
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: You're not trying to have a connection with somebody like that,

1422
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 2: because you literally could not.

1423
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: I just don't see in any world how anybody thinks

1424
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: that this makes women look better. You're just I don't

1425
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: think it's about making You're just letting people come and

1426
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: use your body to get off and leave. It's just

1427
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: it's the weirdest fucking thing to me, like everything the

1428
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: way it is, but especially this.

1429
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: And also I don't think this is about making women

1430
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: look better. I think that everybody is just so fucking

1431
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,839
Speaker 2: offended by anything today that we're making nice words for everything,

1432
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: like I will never get over calling pedophiles maps, like

1433
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: stop trying to make it better. It is what it is,

1434
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: and stop trying to put a nicer label on it,

1435
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: Like it just is what it is. I don't think

1436
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: it's necessarily about like empowering women to be sex workers

1437
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: or hookers or prostitutes or whatever. It's it's just putting

1438
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: a nice word on it. It's it's it's pushed.

1439
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: Down your throat every single day on the news and

1440
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: like this is the second time I'm hearing about this

1441
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: girl the other girl, Like they do these challenges because

1442
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: they want the news to talk about it, and it's

1443
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: working like that that all that does is show somebody

1444
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't know what to do with their life, like hey,

1445
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: I could just go do this and make money, and

1446
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: it's just like it's not a good road to go down.

1447
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: You should try to be discouraging this as much as possible.

1448
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: And it's just it, and it's dangerous for your body,

1449
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: especially anal sex, Like anal sex has been deemed safe

1450
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: to do in a relationship type of situation, but you're

1451
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: at an increased risk for diseases because your anal canal

1452
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: is lined, it's very thin, there's like a rich blood

1453
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: supply there. Its hairs very easily because you don't lubricate

1454
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: there like you do in your vagina, right, And all

1455
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: it's going to do is introduce the potential for infection,

1456
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: which is the biggest concerned honestly. But she could also

1457
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: break essentially break her external sphincter, her anal sphincter, which

1458
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: is what like holds your poopin and hold your parts in.

1459
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: Why the fuck would you do that to yourself?

1460
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: Well?

1461
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because and like you should be embarrassed about this.

1462
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be sitting there like feeling good about this,

1463
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: that you're doing anything good for society or for women

1464
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: in general or for yourself.

1465
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're saying, like anal sex is supposed to

1466
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 2: be happening in like a more controlled environment, in a

1467
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: relationship type setting, or you know, not having like thousands

1468
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: of people doing it to you in one day, because

1469
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: it's just too You're too vulnerable and it could hurt you.

1470
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't care what the fuck she does. She could,

1471
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: she could have sex with a thousand dudes if she

1472
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: wants to. That's completely fine. People could do whatever they

1473
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: want to do. You don't have to be in a relationship,

1474
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: to have sex.

1475
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: You could do whatever you want to do.

1476
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: But just like stop acting like it's like it's a

1477
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: positive thing. This should this shouldn't be like, oh oh,

1478
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: she's gonna try this challenge again and she's in a

1479
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: battle with this other girl to do.

1480
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: A bit more extreme challenge.

1481
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's just don't even talk about this stuff

1482
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: like that.

1483
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: It's just weird.

1484
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, other death news.

1485
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 2: So this mom was getting ready for her son's birthday party,

1486
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: running all over the place. I'm sure you know what

1487
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 2: that's like when you have two young kids and you're

1488
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: just like trying to do really anything. But she said,

1489
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: you went in the bathroom for a couple of minutes,

1490
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: and when she came out, there was dirt all over

1491
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 2: her kids. They're toddlers, and she didn't really understand where

1492
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: the dirt came from at first, but she was like,

1493
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: I don't have time to deal with this. She cleaned

1494
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: them up, vacuumed up the rest of the dirt, continued

1495
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: on with their day and so on. So a couple

1496
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: of days later, she's like walking around the house and

1497
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 2: notices that this container that once held her grandfather's ashes

1498
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: was empty. Yes, so her children basically ate their grandpap.

1499
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: She thinks that they climbed up on a shelf. She

1500
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: said they were out of reach, but their climbers because

1501
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: they're you know, toddlers will get into whatever they want

1502
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 2: to get into, and they must have went up there,

1503
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: grabbed the container they were in, bit the lid off,

1504
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 2: and then just like went to town with it. But

1505
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 2: she's been trying to make light of the situation. She

1506
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: called the grandmother and was like, you won't believe it,

1507
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 2: but the kids ate grandpa, and like the grand everybody

1508
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: in the family seems to be taking a while. And

1509
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: I saw they made a funny follow up video where

1510
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: they put they called the grandpa Papa, so they put

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: a sticker on the vacuum that said papa. Oh my god.

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, like we were talking about ashes earlier with

1513
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: the tattoos and stuff. It's not bad. The kid's not

1514
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: going to get sick. I feel like I could resonate

1515
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: with this mom so much. There's so many times that

1516
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: there's some weird shit, like there's weird orange shit all

1517
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: over the carpet and you're like, what is that and

1518
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: nobody knows anything, And then like later on you find

1519
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: that one of your kids cut open a magic marker

1520
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: and that's where it came from, or something like totally

1521
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: don't think anything. That this mom saw dirt on their kids'

1522
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: faces and was just like, where did you get that from?

1523
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: Because kids just whatever? You know what I mean, It's

1524
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: like kind of hilarious.

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: Actually, oh my god. All right, let's move on to

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01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: Questions of the Day. Every Friday on the at mother

1527
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: Nose Death Instagram account, you guys get head over to

1528
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: our story and ask whatever questions you want. First, do

1529
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: you have to buy any of the gear you wear

1530
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 2: or use during an autopsy or does the hospital provide it?

1531
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: The hospital provides all of it to an extent, but

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: a lot of times they don't give you what you want,

1533
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: so sometimes you could buy certain things. I always buy

1534
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: my own cut gloves, which are gloves that I wear underneath.

1535
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 2: So I would normally put on a pair of gloves,

1536
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: like disposable latex type of gloves, and then put cut

1537
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: gloves on top of those, and then put another pair

1538
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: of disposable latex type of gloves. Latex in the morgue

1539
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: is because most hospitals don't have latex, but some works

1540
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: still allow you to buy like real Latex gloves. It

1541
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: depends where you work, but you know the night trial

1542
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: gloves or whatever you would wear to So there are

1543
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: ones that they're made of a fabric that is difficult

1544
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: to cut through with a knife, so it's just an

1545
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: extra protection. Some of the hospitals I worked out have

1546
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 2: just gotten them for us, and we've had so many pairs,

1547
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 2: but then other it's just like there's one pair that exists,

1548
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 2: so I always have bought my own like that, but

1549
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: everything else, yeah, you can get from that. The hospital

1550
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: should provide you with your equipment like that. All right.

1551
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: Would there be any reason to amputate a limb during

1552
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: an autopsy? I would say.

1553
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: No, no, not during a normal autopsy. There would never

1554
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: be a situation. But let's say let's use the girl

1555
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: that had the cancer in her arm for an example.

1556
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: If there was a patient that was getting treated for

1557
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: a certain type of cancer and they died as a result,

1558
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: and the treatment didn't work, and maybe the oncologists and

1559
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: the researchers wanted to see how the treatment worked, or

1560
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: they were doing some kind of a study on it,

1561
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: and the family agreed to it, there might be a

1562
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: situation where you would do that in order to take

1563
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: the tumor. But even in any cases, like even that case,

1564
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: unless you wanted the full tumor on display. As it

1565
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: relates to going into the bone and stuff, there's always

1566
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: a way to preserve the arm to get it. So

1567
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: in general, hands and feet and arms and legs are

1568
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: usually not touched in autopsy in general unless we're looking

1569
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: for something specific. But I can't ever think of a

1570
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: situation where you would cut off somebody's limb unless it was,

1571
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: like I said, for some weird research thing or something.

1572
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: All right, last, do your husbands listen to the podcast

1573
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 2: every week? My husband was listening to it at the beginning,

1574
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: but I feel like we just put too many episodes

1575
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: out and he couldn't keep up slash. He has to

1576
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: hear me talk all night long and every day, so

1577
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 2: I'm sure he just needs a break. Yeah, I don't.

1578
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: Gabe's listened maybe five minutes of one episode. He doesn't

1579
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: listen to it.

1580
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's like people he.

1581
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: Says it gives them, like sometimes he gets anxiety because

1582
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know what you guys are gonna say.

1583
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to know what you're saying just like whatever.

1584
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like shout out to all our family members

1585
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: and friends and stuff that listen. But if I usually

1586
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 2: make fun of them or say anything, somebody will let

1587
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: him know. So you guys, don't kind of tell him everything.

1588
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: By my my mom listens to every episode.

1589
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,480
Speaker 2: Laura does, our friend Laura.

1590
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: That we were talking about log last week. And our

1591
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: cousins do too. I don't know which ones. I know

1592
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: that Alan Andrea listen to a lot of our episodes,

1593
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: but a.

1594
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: Lot of Caine cousins do. Joey, Kathy, d Jim a lot.

1595
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: I was at a baby shower over the weekend and

1596
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: a couple of people came up to me said, they listen.

1597
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh, our mail man does too, the Maleman Mike does.

1598
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up my key?

1599
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: And he's always he's always criticizing my episodes. The worst

1600
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: one that he hated so far was the one that

1601
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: I was talking about.

1602
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 2: Eating the pigeon.

1603
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 1: He was yelling at me on the front porch actually

1604
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: about that. He's like, I'm sorry, I can't agree with

1605
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: you about that. I'm sorry, And I was just like, dude,

1606
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: I was joking, relaxed.

1607
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: Whatever, Yeah, I mean we obviously appreciate when everybody listens,

1608
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: but it's also this weirdness of like, we know we

1609
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: have these listeners and stuff, but then when people come

1610
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: up to us and start talking about it, I'm like, oh,

1611
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 2: you listen, Yeah exactly. I don't know. It's just like

1612
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 2: weird in between of it's very public, but at the

1613
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: same time you feel like you're in this like private

1614
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 2: little sector with your own audience. So yeah, it's funny,

1615
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 2: it is interesting. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think

1616
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: the husband's Karen, as we know Papa listen one time

1617
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: and that it was the one and done for him.

1618
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm not the best episode, Like this wouldn't be a

1619
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: good episode either, because we're talking about anal sex and.

1620
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: Like somebody did ask as a question if pop Up

1621
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: would come on the X Rated show, So I don't

1622
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 2: think he's going to ever come on now.

1623
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: The thing is is that we don't want to have

1624
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: him on because I think that he would be very

1625
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: quiet and reserved and you would think he was boring.

1626
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe a better opportunity would be to

1627
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: just like secretly secretly record him and and then like

1628
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: he wouldn't care, he wouldn't care. I'm just saying that,

1629
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: like the doozies come out when he doesn't, when he's

1630
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: not like a stand up comedian that would stand on

1631
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: a stage like he the good things come out when

1632
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: when we're having dinner with the family or something.

1633
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: I have to read you when he said to mo mom,

1634
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: because it was when you were away, and I don't

1635
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: even know if you know that.

1636
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: Now I know, is this the one? Yeah, I know

1637
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: what it is.

1638
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: He said to my grandmother, you really didn't lose your looks,

1639
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: but that's according to me. Someone else might think you did.

1640
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I totally got that text message

1641
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: and I read it to Gabe and I was just

1642
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: laughing because I'm like, and Gabe thinks it's funny too,

1643
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: because he's, like, no one would ever doubt that your

1644
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: dad loves your mom. They've been married for almost fifty

1645
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: years years. But like, but like, he just says like

1646
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: the most outrageous things that are so insulting and he

1647
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: doesn't even realize it, like he he said to and

1648
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: this is for my one of my cousins. Uh well,

1649
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy listens to our podcast all the time, Lenny's son,

1650
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: so he'll get a kick out of this because he

1651
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 1: might not know this story. But he'll say like, Lenny's

1652
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: one of one of my first cousins, and Jimmy's my

1653
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: second cousin is her son. But and he says to

1654
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: about Lenny, like, oh, Lenny's she had the most she

1655
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: has the most beautiful green eyes. She's the most beautiful

1656
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: bride I ever seen her or something, and like, no,

1657
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: the green eyes are a different thing. That's a whole

1658
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 1: other story.

1659
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: Beautiful bride.

1660
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so that his wife, his daughters, the green eyes,

1661
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: the green eyes are a different thing. That that's I'm

1662
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: mixing two stories. Yeah, So he says Lenny is the

1663
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: most beautiful bride he ever seen, and then my mom's like, okay,

1664
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: what about me?

1665
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: What about your daughters?

1666
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: Like whatever, No, it's it's Lenny, right, It's so funny.

1667
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: And he said it something about the green eyes. I

1668
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,520
Speaker 1: guess he was just like my dad.

1669
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 2: The prettiest green eyes. And then my Mom's like, well,

1670
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: I have green eyes, like.

1671
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: It's all the time. It's all the time, and it's

1672
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: just hilarious. But like he just I don't know, he

1673
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: just doesn't even like realize what he says.

1674
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: I guess.

1675
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: So now I guess he thinks that she that he

1676
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: didn't think she lost her looks, but other people would

1677
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 1: think it.

1678
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 2: But it's a he just says stuff that's like So

1679
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: it's like such a backhanded compliment all the time. What

1680
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: time we were eating dinner and he was like, oh, Beth,

1681
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: you made this and she was like yeah, why He's like,

1682
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,879
Speaker 2: it's terrible. It is very funt.

1683
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll try to, like, next time we get

1684
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: together for a family dinner, we'll try to secretly.

1685
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 2: Record him and maybe we could just like upload the audio.

1686
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to write a book like ten years ago

1687
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: called Louisms and just like you know, because everybody has

1688
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: something in their phone about something he said that was outrageous. Oh,

1689
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: he got mad because he thought we were making fun

1690
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: of him, which we are. We totally are. But I'm

1691
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 2: going to start the list back up because the older

1692
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: he gets, the more outrages the comments. Can't believe it

1693
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: or not, it is, it's great, all right, Well, thank

1694
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: you guys so much. If you have a story, please

1695
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: submit it to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com and we'll

1696
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: see you later in the week.

1697
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: Say yeah, thank you for listening. To Mother Knows Death

1698
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: as a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant

1699
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

1700
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

1701
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

1702
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 1: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

1703
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

1704
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

1705
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

1706
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed

1707
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

1708
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 1: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having

1709
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a

1710
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit an urgent

1711
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: care center, emergency room.

1712
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:50,080
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01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:56,480
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