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Speaker 1: I I Nandez.

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Speaker 2: Pes Hi boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 2: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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Speaker 2: that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Y'all, Pete Montzingo is on the show. Okay, you probably

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Speaker 1: if you're on social media, you've seen some Pete Montzingo.

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Speaker 1: He's tall, he's got red hair, and he is from

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Speaker 1: a family of little people, so he makes a lot

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Speaker 1: two of them are just a great team. Also, he

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago moved directly across the street

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Speaker 1: from the Cecil Hotel. Cecil Hotel, this place, it's always

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Speaker 1: coming up in my life. We've talked about it on

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Speaker 1: the show. You know, this super tragic hotel that just

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Speaker 1: over the years, NonStop horrible things have happened in and

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Speaker 1: it's located in downtown Los Angeles. Naturally, people think it's haunted.

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Speaker 1: Ghost Adventures has been inside of there, and Pete lived

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Speaker 1: of years ago he started making tons of content of

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Speaker 1: what it was like to live across the street from

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Speaker 1: the cecil and it's good. If you haven't seen any

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Speaker 1: of that, go look it up. But we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about it on today's episode. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: let me read a story from one of you people.

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Speaker 1: This one comes from Felicia. Felicia writes, Hi, Roz, love

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Speaker 1: listening to you so much. I have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a story that you might like. I used to

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Speaker 1: work for a company that rented beach houses. The first

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Speaker 1: year that I was working there, I kept noticing that

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Speaker 1: wrong with the house. Apparently the house was haunted, something

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Speaker 1: would mess with every housekeeper that cleaned it. I asked

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Speaker 1: me just weird stuff happens while they're cleaning, things like

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Speaker 1: Beds would be moved or unmade. I was so interested

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Speaker 1: five years after working there, the girl that oversaw housekeeping

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Speaker 1: and I had become best friends. Every year during our

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Speaker 1: slow season, the office staff would get to take turns

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Speaker 1: went in with an open mind, just trying not to

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Speaker 1: expect anything, but a few things did happen while we

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Speaker 1: were in there. First, I noticed an eerie feeling in

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Speaker 1: I followed her around just to make sure she wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to try to mess with me. We went to

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Speaker 1: because all the houses are on stilts because of the beach.

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Speaker 1: me all the details. Thank you, Felicia. Okay, bye, Felicia. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, so let's just get into it. Here is

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Speaker 1: my conversation with Pete Monsingo and with the show Pete Man. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what a name?

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Speaker 3: What a name? Hi?

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Speaker 1: Hi, thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so this feels so intimate. I feel. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we canetet ripped apart. Honestly, we're just.

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Speaker 1: Meaning and it's very Yeah, we're intimate. There's lights, We've

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with your mom. Now,

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Speaker 1: how did your mom raise you on the topic of ghosts?

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Speaker 3: She said, do not lean into it. She actually was

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Speaker 3: kind of a psychic herself, which I can't talk about.

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Speaker 3: I promised her. But there's definitely like so much. I know,

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Speaker 3: that's like the worst thing to start up a posts,

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Speaker 3: a secret psychic. She's a secret psychic, okay, and she's

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Speaker 3: like I already went through all of the things when

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Speaker 3: a youngest, I'm like, that means I have to in.

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Speaker 3: So I have across the street from the Seacotel, and

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Speaker 3: The more I lean into it, the more I'm like

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Speaker 1: You know, how does she feel about you doing that?

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Speaker 3: She's just like she's like it's making She's like, it's

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Speaker 3: Would I would notice weird things, like things would be

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Speaker 1: That your first apartment in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so you go right to the ghosts

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Speaker 1: Heart of the Beast. My okay, So, dear friend of

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Speaker 1: this podcast, our h. Stavis, who is known as the

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Speaker 1: Exorcist to the Stars. Okay, this lady, you got to

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Speaker 1: look her up. She can see demons. And it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very skeptical of all this stuff, but she's

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Speaker 1: She's like she thinks that it exists over there, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like there is so much

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Speaker 1: Up from them, that's going on in those tons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, Okay, so you move in. Did you know

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Speaker 3: No? I had no idea until I have a housewarming party.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, of course the documentary that came out on

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Speaker 3: Do you know about the TB tuberculosis outbreak during that time? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yep. Like it's some shady like or a rip in

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Speaker 1: You know, there's definitely something beyond just people dying in

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Speaker 1: google us. That should That was like their their catchphrase,

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Speaker 1: That's hard to I don't know how I would do

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Speaker 1: I'm back.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm home.

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Speaker 1: were like trying to do like a fun like Halloween

435
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: party thing, so we were like setting up to like

436
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: decorate and whatever to make it Halloween. And I was

437
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: just kind of like tired and just like standing around

438
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: not being helpful to anyone. And I was like looking

439
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: at the hallway and I saw like a white person

440
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: run and disappear in front of my eyes. And that's

441
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever seen something like that was

442
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 1: at that place.

443
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: What you do?

444
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, did you guys see that?

445
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: They're like, no, what can you help us? Place? Yeah,

446
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: it was, but it was like no cameras were on.

447
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: So I know, it's like they know when the cameras

448
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: are on. It.

449
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: It drives me crazy because that's what you just you

450
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: have to have the cameras rolling at all times, and

451
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: you have to have a lot of them because these

452
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: damn ghosts they know they're like, are you paying me

453
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: to be on TV? Then? Now literally, okay, wait back

454
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: to you. So you're at the Cecil. Weird things are

455
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: happening in your place. So then you're like, what, I'm

456
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: just going to start documenting living across from that?

457
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, a couple of things. So this is like

458
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: I was saying, I just popped off on YouTube with

459
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: the long form on Cecil stuff. So I was like

460
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: really diving into panormal stuff and all that, and like

461
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 3: I like the switch for that was Yeah. I would

462
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: see all these things from across the street, like curtains moving,

463
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: doors opening and shutting, Like I have all these on camera.

464
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw when you were looking through,

465
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: but like I mean I could not believe like smoke.

466
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: There was like a fire and what was that? Do

467
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about?

468
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Like you did one clip where there's literally a fire.

469
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, why is there a fire? And like

470
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: why isn't there smoke? I like called name on one

471
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: and they're like you're psychotic, and I'm like I know,

472
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: but like I don't know what's going on and no

473
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 3: one was living there at the time. And the Netflix

474
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: documentary had just come out. And so I'm like entrepreneurial mind,

475
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, now's the time to like, you know, really

476
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 3: jump on this. Yeah. Also, like the chances that this

477
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: happened is insane that I'm across from the cecoul during

478
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: the documentary and like, yeah, all right, universe telling me

479
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: like gotta do this, you know. Yeah. And so honestly,

480
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 3: like at first, it was really just I wanted like

481
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: a babysitter because I was at the apartment by myself,

482
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm scared. Now I'm seeing all

483
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: these things and I'm hearing voices as I'm starting to

484
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 3: go on, like these ghost things, and like I need

485
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: to make sure that I can have people like watching

486
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: my back overnight. And so I started live streaming first,

487
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 3: and so I was like, Hey, I'm going to go

488
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: to bed, let me know if you see anything in

489
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: any of the windows, Like am I crazy like babysit me,

490
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: you know, like just be in the room with me.

491
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: Did you have the roommates still no?

492
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: At that point, I was like get out. I'm certain

493
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: to make money, so like I need my own space, okay,

494
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: And I literally like start leaning into like make money overnight,

495
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: you know, so I would like wake up in the

496
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: morning and there were like ten thousand people who were

497
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: watching I guess overnight. It was like therapeutic for them,

498
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: and they started feeling like invested. I got to show

499
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: more like my personality, Like it just felt like a

500
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: really great thing, like we were almost I would call

501
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: it my like sleepovers and everyone would like come and join.

502
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: It'd be just dumb, but like fun. But they would

503
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: actually point out things like like the fire or something

504
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: that happened on like floor ten two two windows on

505
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: the left, you know, and I'm like, this is at

506
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: Lisa Lamb's old room, and like so yeah. Every morning

507
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: I would just like wake up and be like should

508
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: I see anything, and they would let me know like

509
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: nothing tonight, or like oh my god. It was so active.

510
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 3: And then I would go through that footage and like

511
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: see it for myself and be like, okay, I'm not crazy,

512
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: And then it quickly turned into okay, I have to

513
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: get in there like asap because now I have to

514
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: like close this chapter and like understand like what we've

515
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: been seeing. And I had a little red notebook that

516
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: I had all these different rooms. I was like taking notes,

517
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: so I got like really obsessed. Yeah.

518
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: Well, I mean because okay, let's look at it skeptically.

519
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Who there is, Like there could have been like a

520
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: caretaker of the building, but like would they be in

521
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: all those different rooms at night?

522
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: Like right?

523
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: Probably not.

524
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: Also, like I never saw anybody in there ever, except

525
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 3: once when no one was living there, and I feel

526
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: like I was always spying on the Seacial Hotel. Yeah,

527
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: so I would have seen at least somebody once, you know.

528
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like with it being by skid row,

529
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: there could be some people that find their way in there.

530
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: And true, I mean it's possible, but still I don't know.

531
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I started the whole

532
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: thing with a question mark.

533
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: So at what point did you go inside?

534
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: So I got inside this was like twenty twenty one.

535
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: End up getting inside, I forgot. The whole point of

536
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: this was to like vlog. So I was just so

537
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: excited that I've been like, you know, I was such

538
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: a new YouTuber at the time, and I was like

539
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: every other YouTuber's getting in like besides me, and like

540
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: this is like you would literally GPS Pete Montzingo and

541
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: it would take you to the cecil. Like I was

542
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: a cecil guy. Yeah, like and I'm like, why are

543
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: all these other people getting in before me? You know?

544
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: And so I was the last YouTuber to get in.

545
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: It was like a joke. And I was so excited

546
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: that I like run in. The guard texted me at

547
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: like three am. He's like, now it's your chance. And

548
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: so I was like running over there forgot all my

549
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: camera year and all this oh my stuff. And I

550
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: was like running up the stairs so I'm not taking

551
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: the elevator and and I'm on like floor nine, and

552
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: all of a sudden like hits me. I'm like, oh wait,

553
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: there is like somehow now like this really deep energy

554
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: that's like dark, and then lights were serting to flicker,

555
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: like like the top three floors, for sure are are

556
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: the worst. And even the guard told me, like each

557
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: guard had told me that at the time, that like

558
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: when they do their rounds, they don't go to the

559
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: top three floors. So I realized that first, and then

560
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: they like each confirmed it for me.

561
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: They tell you that they experience.

562
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: Like that heavy feeling, heavy feeling. They didn't say anything

563
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: about lights flickering, but they were like, I always feel

564
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: like I'm being watched out here. Like door slamming from

565
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: like the other side of the building and stuff. And

566
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: I was noticing that too. Also ironic that Richard Ramiers's

567
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: room was on that on one of those floor's eleventh floor.

568
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: Well that's probably where these people have jumped over the years.

569
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, higher, Yeah exactly. And I mean I feel like

570
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: there's a murder or a death in every room at

571
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: this point, Like I U see Andrew deaths.

572
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's probably so many we don't even know about. Yeah,

573
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: So when you went in there, what was it at

574
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: that point, hotels?

575
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: It was just the closed hotel Cecil.

576
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so it wasn't there was nobody living still.

577
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: Allegedly known one was there. Yeah, but they also apparently

578
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: didn't know they were making a Cecil documentary and so

579
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: they only hired a guard when people when the when

580
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: the documentary came out, because people were working it. And

581
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: then they reopened it like a year later through the

582
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: skid Row Housing Trust and made it hotels he sail

583
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: apartments for the low income homeless.

584
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Right, And I've seen people vlog from that perspective, like

585
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: and there's like one guy that's always in my suggestions

586
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: that like lives there and he's like, it's not haunted,

587
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: like he very much doesn't believe in it. He just

588
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: like lives there. And he's like, no, it's not.

589
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: Wait, what's his ad?

590
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: I'll actually I wouldn't even know. I would have to

591
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: just scroll until I'll send it to you next time

592
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: I see him.

593
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: Perfect.

594
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wonder what it's like in there right now,

595
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: because I saw somebody else that got access to it

596
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: and they were saying that there's like a lot of violence,

597
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: violence and gang activity, and yeah.

598
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: I was held at gunpoint last time I was there.

599
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: You were held at gunpoint last year.

600
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: Was the last to myself, this is the last time

601
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm going in. Yeah. Some guy came up to me

602
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: and he's like, what are you doing here because it's

603
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: very territorial now with like gangs. Yeah, and I'm like,

604
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm Metubert and he literally like opened up his like

605
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: bottom of sure a little bit and showed me like

606
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 3: his gun and he's like you need to leave right now.

607
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm not leaving, and then he got it

608
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: out and literally was certain point a Taurus because you're

609
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: a Taurus. Yeah, I'm like stubborn.

610
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I think he said tourist. I'm like, you're

611
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: not a touristic aymore, you full on live here.

612
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: But crazy don't go.

613
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. And that's like another thing when people

614
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: are like, you need to go to the SEACLT bitch, No,

615
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: absolutely not. But that's the other thing is like you're

616
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: only on one side of it, which is like the

617
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: main side at the front of it. But it's like

618
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: who knows what's happening in those other rooms at nighttime

619
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: when you were live streaming.

620
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: And a lot of the rooms actually in the back

621
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: are more of the like the master suites. I didn't

622
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: even know they had Master suites at the Cecil, but

623
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: they have like beautiful suites.

624
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just realized, like also there might be

625
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: people that have never even heard of the Cecil. Maybe

626
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe let's like go back to the beginning. Okay, So

627
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: it opened in what the.

628
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: Twenties, yes, nineteen twenty four.

629
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Nineteen twenty four, and it was supposed to be nice, right.

630
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be for the people who came

631
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: as like the Wall Street people to like come and

632
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: stay in LA and you.

633
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Know, Okay, then depression hits and then I mean, I

634
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: don't know, there's so many recorded deaths. Again, whoever knows

635
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: with like anything, how many people have died places. But

636
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: people start jumping, and then there's been a few recorded murders,

637
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: I believe. I know there's like that Pigeon Lady or

638
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: whatever murdered there, Pigeon Goldie I think, or something like

639
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: that they call, or something like that. Then I know

640
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: there's a story a guy jumped and fell on somebody

641
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: that was walking pass both of them died. And then yeah,

642
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: of course the famous story Alisa Lamb, this woman who

643
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: was tourist somehow got into the water tank on the

644
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: ceiling or on the roof, and then people started drinking

645
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: the water and they I mean, what do you think?

646
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: What do you think happened to her?

647
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: I have so many thoughts. I believe she could have

648
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: had a mental illness. I believe all of that. Not discrediting,

649
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: but based on what I know about where I live

650
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: or used to live. It is so obvious and so

651
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: much bigger when you're living on the side that I

652
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: was living, to see somebody climbing up.

653
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: The fire.

654
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: The fire well or whatever, so obvious, like painfully like,

655
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: And I have like seven hundred units in that building

656
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: that looked towards there, and it's just it's so odd

657
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: for me that no one would have called name one one.

658
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: No one would have called like the front desk at

659
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: the building I'm in, or called Sam Main or you know, Cecil.

660
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: And then they're like, none of the cameras were working. Well,

661
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: we have cameras at the top of my building that

662
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: faced the Cecil Hotel, and there are other kid's downtown La.

663
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: Someone's going to capture something. And the fact that you

664
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: know they found where she was when there were two

665
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: sheriffs on it, like they had just dropped the team,

666
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 3: you know, like two weeks later after not finding Alisa Lamb,

667
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 3: and like, it just there's so many fishy things that

668
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, from my perspective, there's like they traced her

669
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: scent to the sixth floor and so that's why they're

670
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: pretty sure that she went up the fire escape. And

671
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, if she did, there's no reason why we

672
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: we would not have evidence or some sort of phone

673
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: call something from somebody.

674
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to the people that run your building?

675
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Yes, they all they have to say is that my

676
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: building's more haunted or something really stories there that I've

677
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 3: been trying to like put into video and stuff too.

678
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: Do you know the history of your building?

679
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: It was before the seacoul and it was actually like

680
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: a Wall Street building where people would come and do

681
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: like a stock exchange and whatever they did back then.

682
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't even know anything about that world, but sure

683
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: they There was a little boy I guess who died

684
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: in the basement of that building, and when I moved

685
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: When I had moved in, they had just locked the

686
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: wreck room in the basement because tenants would say that

687
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: they would see a little boy standing on the pool table,

688
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: and so I'm like, please get me access, like I

689
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: need to see this for myself, and they've never opened

690
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: it since.

691
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you gotta get in there.

692
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: I know. I'm like pounding on the doors at night.

693
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, let me in.

694
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, what an interesting part of la Okay. So, currently,

695
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: as it stands, the Sea Hotel is housing and it's

696
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: not open to the public, so people should not go there.

697
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Are you still keeping an eye on it now that

698
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: you like you still have the place?

699
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a little less focused on it because

700
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: it's it's less fun when I like, I don't want

701
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: to be spying.

702
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: On well, plus you know there's people in there exactly,

703
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: so it's like the curtain moved. Oh yeah, because someone

704
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: lives in that room now.

705
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: Exactly, And like yeah, I will notice things sometimes of

706
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: like okay, that door just opened, like I just caught

707
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 3: it again like a couple of weeks ago. But I'm like, okay, well,

708
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: people already know this about the cecoul, Like like I

709
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: think I was filming, oh I throw. I had thrown

710
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: a bluetooth speaker up on the Marquee last week and

711
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: I started just like sound affecting the cecol essentially and

712
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: people walking by and like seeing what they do. And

713
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: in that footage I noticed one of it's really weird,

714
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: one of the windows that are like a crank window.

715
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: Literally you can see it opening with nobody, like like

716
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: the crank was going in everything. And I'm like, okay,

717
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm seeing things still and that definitely wasn't a person.

718
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: But like I feel like I can't post it because

719
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: it's like, well, someone could have a wire on the

720
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: other side and be like, you know, doing it.

721
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, let the people decide. I think it's

722
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: just interesting. I know it's well that reminds me that

723
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: one time you got a drone and you tried to

724
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: fly it in that one time? Oh it was multiple times.

725
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: I went through like twelve drones because I could not

726
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: get it in.

727
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: This is before people were living there. Yeah, you flew

728
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: a drone it did you ever get it in?

729
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: Finally I got it in? Yep?

730
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: And how was that?

731
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: It crashed in the halt and then I had to

732
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: pay the guards like five hundred dollars like get it

733
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, everything this again, like this is

734
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 3: why do I It's like so stupid?

735
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well I guess that kind of concludes

736
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: the Cecil Hotel stuff, which I find endlessly fascinating. Keep

737
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: an eye on it for us all.

738
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: I will sell binoculars and stuff.

739
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll? Yes, okay, it's

740
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: time for the dolls are living.

741
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm scared.

742
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Here's what I do. Every week. I go to

743
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: eBay dot com. I type in haunted dolls. There's thousands

744
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: of them at all time. Have you ever.

745
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: Experienced anything with dolls? No?

746
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: Like, have you ever gone to eBay and typed and

747
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: haunted dolls?

748
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: No?

749
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: Should I You're gonna have a new hobby. Yes, there's

750
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: thousands at a time, and what I like to do

751
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: is feature a different one every single week. The great

752
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: thing about them is they come with biographies. Typically, the

753
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: belief is that a living human is now inside of

754
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: these dolls, and now they're for sale, And if you

755
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: have seventy five dollars, you could have this week's doll

756
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: named Jingles. So jiha show us jing please you got it? Ras,

757
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: there's Jingles. Not be nice. Jingles is a clown. Kind

758
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: of got some cute bangs, a little hat on, big

759
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: red nose, very typical clown. Look, giack, can we see

760
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: the other picture of Jingles? Sure? Yeah, like big silly

761
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: clown shoes.

762
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: See a dwarf kind of looks like a little person.

763
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Uh, he's definitely a clown, I know

764
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: that much. So that's Jingles. How do you feel?

765
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: I want to be nice, but I don't like him.

766
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: That's okay. You don't have to like him. This might help.

767
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: Here's his biography. The person selling Jingles wrote, today, I

768
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: present to you the haunted spirit of Jingles. Jingles is

769
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: no ordinary clown. He's not like other clowns. He is

770
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: the most potent, malevolent spirit I've ever encountered. He's small

771
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: in stature, but brimming with dark intent. His porcelain vessel

772
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: painted in Garish cheer is a cruel disguise for the

773
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: oppressive energy he carries. From the moment he arrived, the

774
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: atmosphere shifted. My cat refuses to go near him, hissing

775
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: and pacing. Whenever Jingles is in the room, the air

776
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: around him feels charged, heavy and wrong. Within weeks, Jingles

777
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: began to stir. He emits sounds, soft chuckles, distant carnival music,

778
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: the creak of unseen swings.

779
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: What what unseen swings?

780
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I guess he makes the sound of swings and far

781
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: far away land. Blah blah blah. Basically, this is Jingles

782
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: the clown. He'll talk to you through a Ouiji board,

783
00:40:53,960 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: spirit box, catballs, bullet lights, all kinds of shit. And

784
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: it says, if you're brave enough to claim Jingles, know this.

785
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: You are not adopting a doll You are accepting a challenge,

786
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: a test of will, a keeper of secrets. Seventy five dollars.

787
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: You want Jingles? Yeah, you would take Jingles.

788
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually like sold by that pitch. But he's

789
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: to the swing bowl. I know, I feel like I

790
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: can change him.

791
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: You know, I feel that way about a lot of men.

792
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now he has made

793
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: up his mind in these clowns, I mean to be

794
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: a clown in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six. You're

795
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: not changing. You've decided. I don't care that the world

796
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: is not really necessarily here for clowns anymore. I am

797
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: a clown and I am going nowhere.

798
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think I would regret it as soon

799
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: as I bought him, But I think for like, you know,

800
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: the first twelve hours, i'd be like, this will be

801
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: fun content content U Yeah.

802
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Take him to the Little Boy and basement.

803
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: Just put him out by the door. The door just opens,

804
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: all right?

805
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Well that was the dolls are living? Also? Can I

806
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: play you some ghost voices? Yes? Okay, it's time for

807
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: EVP or ev Pase, So I go to YouTube. I

808
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: look up real ghost voices. Okay, EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomenal.

809
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the EVP, sometimes it's the ev Please right,

810
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: I got.

811
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: Two of them for you, Okay.

812
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: This first one comes from Spirit Obsession Paranormal and this

813
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: was recorded at the Yorktown Memorial Hospital Pimanzinga. What's this

814
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: ghost saying? God, play it again?

815
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: Get out? Or no?

816
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely something go no?

817
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: Oh does it say what it says it does?

818
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an ABC D. Okay, it's one

819
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: of these. Do they think it was A You're busted though,

820
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: B you must know, C you mustn't go? Or D

821
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: you Dusty Hoe? Okay? Which one is it? I'm planning

822
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: it again.

823
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say definitely, not D, but I really wanted

824
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: it to be D. I'm not gonna lie. I was

825
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: really hoping I would say B.

826
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: That is correct? Do they believe it's you must know?

827
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: Okay?

828
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: Now that we know that, let's listen in. I think

829
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: it's you, Dusty Hoe. Okay. This next one is from

830
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Haunted Portals VICKI Medium nineteen you know eight?

831
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: Thank you for my mom's name.

832
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's a medium.

833
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: She's this a secret channel.

834
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: This is at the Bullock like Sandra Bullock Hotel in Deadwood,

835
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: South Dakota. What's this ghost saying? Oh, this one's whispery.

836
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: That's an EV please.

837
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: I think it's good.

838
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: Listen here, I'm hearing my phone just keeps ringing.

839
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. I think it's the ghost.

840
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: That was like, oh God, do not bring me back there.

841
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay, did they think it was A hey, I'm fucking freezing.

842
00:44:52,840 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: B everybody's waiting. See every thought is leading or d

843
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: oh I'm feeling sleazy, please be d I'm gonna say a, hey,

844
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm fucking freezing. Yeah, they think it's B everybody's waiting.

845
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: But I didn't think there could be two b's in

846
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: a row.

847
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: So I was like, that's how I get you. Okay, wait,

848
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: it's everybody's waiting. I hear a puugh. Yeah, I don't know.

849
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: It's it's something haunted portals Vicky Medium, nineteen oh eight.

850
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: It's not bad, but uh, I don't know what it says.

851
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: All right, one last thing. I'm gonna name some phenomenal Okay,

852
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: I want you just to tell me your thoughts or

853
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: maybe I have a story or what comes to mind.

854
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: What about Ouiji boards.

855
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: I have never touched Oigi board because.

856
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: You believe that it's too scary.

857
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: I believe that is literally the portal to hotel seesel like,

858
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: it's literally the portal to death. It's like unlocking all

859
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: the evil stuff. I mean, I could be naive, but

860
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: I have never seen one good thing come out of

861
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: a Oigi board, have you guess?

862
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Like what I mean? I truly believe it's just as

863
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: evil as any other ghost hunting equipment. I think it's

864
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: all the same because you're just you're just asking that's true.

865
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: But I think the problem is since for so many

866
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: years they sold it next to Candyland and Monopoly people

867
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Speaker 1: open up portals to hell?

868
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Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Like, was that intentional?

869
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: Like?

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00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: I have so many thoughts.

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00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: I know, so I do think that, yes, people have

872
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: had a lot of scary situations at slumber parties where

873
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: they open up Lucifer's Dungeon and and it's given it

874
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: a bad reputation. I also think there's really good horror

875
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: movies that feature Wiji boards. But I don't think it's

876
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Speaker 1: that bad.

877
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: Really, have you done it?

878
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god A billion times? I think it's like

879
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: I think it's like the Internet. It's like when you

880
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: do oh megle is that what it's called. I'm old.

881
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things. Okay, you're like, oh,

882
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: who's gonna say hi? Or whatever? And it could be

883
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: a full on predator or it could be like, oh,

884
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: this is nice.

885
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: Could like be my grandpa.

886
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I guess it could be anyone. It could be It

887
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: could be good, could be bad. I don't know. I

888
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: personally believe that we as living humans have control and

889
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: we can not be overtaken by demons if we're strong enough.

890
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: I agree. I totally agree. It's like all the movies. Yeah,

891
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 3: it's like you're you're stronger than that. Resist.

892
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Yes, they don't even have bodies, They're just like floating around.

893
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: Please yeah, please when you put it like that, yeah,

894
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: you're just floating around. Get out of here.

895
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, So what do you think about coincidences or

897
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: fate stuff like that? Do you believe in that?

898
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel like and I only say yes because

899
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 3: of literally just my career path. Like I was trying

900
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: so hard to like be somebody and like be famous

901
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: and like all this stuff. Like I'd all my like

902
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: preconceived things when I was a kid, you know of

903
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: like I need external validation. And then as soon as

904
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: I was like trying so hard for it, like I

905
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: was in a boy band for like eight years and

906
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: like we were like touring like' just so random, then

907
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: COVID happened and I literally gave up. I'm like, I'm

908
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: getting old. I can't like have this fake vertical idea anymore,

909
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: like you know, like I'm getting old. So I actually

910
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: gave up during COVID. And then right when I gave

911
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 3: up is when I like had my first viral video,

912
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: and like it really taught me that, Okay, like maybe

913
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: things aren't like predetermined, but if you lean into like

914
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: just going with the wind, you know, like spetting on

915
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: the wall vibes, like maybe that's not a bad thing.

916
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: Maybe it's okay not to be intentional sometimes and like

917
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: let the universe just like guide you. And like, actually,

918
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: it's the reason why I have this this tattoo. I

919
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: have a key and it's an old like skeleton key.

920
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: A because I love Zelda and I'm like obsessed. And

921
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: B because I believe that we have the power, because

922
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 3: we do have bodies and we're not just floating around,

923
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: but we have the power to unlock any door that

924
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: we want to open, because we have like the ancient

925
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: wisdom we can tap into, but only if it's like

926
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: part of God's plan or the universe's plans. It was

927
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: like a little cross at the end of the tattoo

928
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: there because it's like, well, you know, you got to

929
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: know when to let go, you know. So that's what

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00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: Are you Christian? Yeah? What do you think about Bigfoot?

932
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't know transparently if I believe in Bigfoot?

933
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: But why not?

934
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: Well, because I just I've never even like thought about it.

935
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, to me, it sounds like the

936
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: lock Nest Monster, but.

937
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I would believe in that monster.

938
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't know.

939
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Speaker 1: You're from Seattle. Seattle has Bigfoot, I mean not like

940
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: in the city, but like it's true.

941
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: He's around actually right. In fact, my mom played Bigfoot

942
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: in beer commercial and in the old movie with Chevy Chase.

943
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: Oh what is it? What's that Bigfoot movie with Chevy Chase?

944
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm talking about?

945
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: The Harry and the Henderson that's it.

946
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: Yep, she was in that movie playing a big Foot.

947
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's when I think of big feet,

948
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I think of my mom, which is like, so.

949
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: That is so fun. Wait, was your mom like in

950
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: a lot of movies.

951
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, she grew up in la and she had the

952
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: same desires as me, except she just like gave up

953
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: and got married, and I'm like, oh, I got it.

954
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: She's so beautiful, She's nicon.

955
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think about Is there a fun

956
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that you kind of believe Antarctica?

957
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: What's that the cont No.

958
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: I know, the concident, but I mean, what's the theory

959
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: about Antarctica?

960
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: So there's like a wall theory, so like like you're

961
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: not supposed to go, but it's supposed to be, just

962
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: like Freeland or whatever, like no one really goes about it,

963
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: like you can't survive, you know, all these things, but

964
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: like all the it's like part of the un you know,

965
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: like there's like a weird thing about Antarctica politically, I

966
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: feel like. And then there's also something where they call

967
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: it the wall and within the wall there's allegedly, you know,

968
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: like different beings and creatures and like if like the

969
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: ice caps aren't melting because of you know, climate change

970
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: could be because of like these other beings. Like it's

971
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 3: just weird. It's like flat earth shit, you know, which Like, Okay,

972
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: do I really believe it? Well, I don't know ever

973
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: been so like I'm gonna I'm planning a trip to

974
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 3: Antarctica because I'm going to approve or disprove a lot

975
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: of these like theories.

976
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Now, how does that work? Is there an airport in Antarctica?

977
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a research airport. Most people get there

978
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: either through boat, like taking a cruise line and then

979
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: just like getting off. But like, I'm not going to

980
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: do that. I'm like, whoever does? That's insane? But if

981
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 3: you can fly, but you have to get a private

982
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: pilot who has like the license to go there, and

983
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: you have to budget two to three weeks because the

984
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 3: weather is so unpredictable that you can't actually set a date.

985
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: So it's just really expensive. And I'm still kind of

986
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: wang whether or not it's going to be worth it

987
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: for the content.

988
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: So what if you get there and there's like abominable snowmen?

989
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: I mean, as long as the cameras are recording, well.

990
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You got to get that content. Yeah, okay,

991
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: last one, what do you think about psychics believe? Well,

992
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: you're raised by one, Yeah, secretly and secretly.

993
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like there's something with intuition,

994
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: Like maybe it's part of the whole fake conversation, but

995
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, when you let go, you lean

996
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: into intuition. I feel like that is actually like you

997
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: being psychic, if that makes sense. It's like the more

998
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: you just are in tune with yourself, you know, the

999
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: more like you're going to be in line with what

1000
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do, the more you can like kind

1001
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 3: of understand what you're doing. OK. I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I sound crazy, but no, no, no, no, not on this podcast.

1003
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