WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Jesse Johnson Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Court Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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<v Speaker 1>episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to part two of our Jesse Johnson review.

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<v Speaker 2>No pun attended.

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<v Speaker 3>This is QLs.

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<v Speaker 1>Classic from August eighth, twenty eighteen, Part two of our

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Jesse Johnson on Course Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you enjoy.

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<v Speaker 4>Previously on Court Love Supreme, we talked to the great

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<v Speaker 4>Jesse Johnson about his beginnings in Rock Island, Illinois, music

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<v Speaker 4>scene in Davenport, Iowa, of all places, and arriving in

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<v Speaker 4>Minneapolis as the Formation of the Time was just starting.

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<v Speaker 3>We also talked.

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<v Speaker 1>About who fights and vanity, and also we might have

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise guest by the name of Angership as Popin

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<v Speaker 1>First Boss Bill has a question that may be familiar

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<v Speaker 1>to those who heard the Jimmy jam Miner.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a question. Yes, who broke the titty lamp?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, I glued I know, I glued the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I glued the ship. The juice glued that and one

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<v Speaker 2>day and arm deep in the juice machine. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>suck that up too. And that dude that owned that

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<v Speaker 2>was mister weaver. He was no joke and his brother

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<v Speaker 2>had clogs on. You remember him shoes clogs and so

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<v Speaker 2>when you a brother straight and you wearing clogs, you

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<v Speaker 2>really are no nonsense kind of. But we were like

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<v Speaker 2>we were moving something a table and the teddy lamp

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<v Speaker 2>fell on.

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<v Speaker 5>For anybody that doesn't know what we're talking about, go

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<v Speaker 5>back and listen to the jet one of the seven

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<v Speaker 5>hours of the Jimmy jim.

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<v Speaker 1>The first the first two hours I was there, I forgot,

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<v Speaker 1>brought me way back.

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<v Speaker 3>We got.

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<v Speaker 2>I came with some Elmer's glue man and had that

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<v Speaker 2>ship rigged up, and that dude still knew it. He

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<v Speaker 2>man who broke the titty lap.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, what what are.

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<v Speaker 2>You talking about? We glued. I glued that ship so

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<v Speaker 2>well that you know when you have fine pieces and

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<v Speaker 2>still fit. And he somehow still saw that shit. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I just need to know who broke the titty. Like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>ease up to my car right about fighting. No old

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<v Speaker 2>dude in here.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to shooting and choking people. Well, since we're

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<v Speaker 1>asking who. Eventually, let Prince know what jam and Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>were really doing in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think he knew. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he knew for a long time. But something about them

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<v Speaker 2>missing that because the next day we were in San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought they got away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, no, they they were in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's weird, hard work because it hadn't snowed during

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years, literally fifty years, and we were in here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're here in New York. We were here in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and we played the place Radio City. Yeah, radio what

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<v Speaker 2>was the place before Radio City? Where no where? The

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<v Speaker 2>stage was real short because the first time we played it,

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<v Speaker 2>David Boy tell of everybody was in Frank Zappa, Grace Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>it was God, it was before the it was before

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<v Speaker 2>Radio Ladium maybe, yeah, ladium, that's what. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been that place. But I but I

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<v Speaker 2>think what you but shore you're talking about was it

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<v Speaker 2>played him because he kicked us off of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the major kicked us off of New York Radio City.

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<v Speaker 2>He kicked us off of the l a day. And

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<v Speaker 2>I never knew until you get there. You get there

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<v Speaker 2>for sound checking out and yeah, y'all ain't on this,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're playing behind the curtain for I'm like, it

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<v Speaker 2>just bought a bit. Yeah, I said, just heartbreaking because

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<v Speaker 2>you never played those places and so your whole dream

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh man, you would, and so it would

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<v Speaker 2>just break my heart for me. It was just like

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<v Speaker 2>like like it was one time for the Vanity six

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<v Speaker 2>year in La I didn't show up to half the set.

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<v Speaker 2>I did like the brother on a David Letterman, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>showed me gone and he came on there with no

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<v Speaker 2>shoes on the middle of it. I was doing now like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't even trying to be here for that fuck

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<v Speaker 2>around kill somebody or but yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you left, officially, I guess at one point

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<v Speaker 1>you were deciding whether or not to No, I never

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<v Speaker 1>know when I left. I left, so there wasn't an increation.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no before you left the Reserve. You need

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<v Speaker 1>to talk of you taking over for Morris in the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Never never never, because the time was his thing, it

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<v Speaker 2>was his baby, it was his I respected that one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I to this day, He'll tell you, I have major

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<v Speaker 2>respect for hierarchy. I don't like when I'm with d

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<v Speaker 2>I'm when I'm a D, I'm D's guitar player, and

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<v Speaker 2>D's my boss, and so there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that have made If I don't agree with something, but

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<v Speaker 2>because he's my boss, when we're on tour, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything. But when we're home, there's been plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>times when I call him the fucker you can fire me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at home now, blah blah blah. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he he but I respect him greatly. It's his thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I never step on anybody's toes during that thing.

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<v Speaker 5>After Jimmy and Terry and Monty left, What did it

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<v Speaker 5>feel like for you have to take over the leads

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<v Speaker 5>for rehearsals like.

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<v Speaker 2>I always you were always yes, I was always kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in that when Morris wasn't around. He I was

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<v Speaker 2>like the guy that he didn't have to come to

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<v Speaker 2>rehearsals if he knew what I did, so how arrangements

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to add or whatever or not. I was

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that I hired all the other new people

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<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah blah blah. I was like really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of that that thing. And I was never officially

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that runs this and I was never that

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<v Speaker 2>never had that title.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So when you're rehearsing though, and each album is

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<v Speaker 1>six songs each, like, I mean, at what point are

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<v Speaker 1>you just doing the stuff it's just add nausea, You're not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, it was, it was something that worked. It

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<v Speaker 2>was it was kind of a busy work plan, but

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<v Speaker 2>it worked against the boss because it was a busy

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<v Speaker 2>work plan. To hear. You know, I didn't know it's busy,

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<v Speaker 2>but you guys got making it sixty dollars a week

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<v Speaker 2>for the longest and so but we ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, when you go on stage like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're not only good, but you're pissed. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to It's just like when a fighter says a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of stuff about it. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you saw that last Triple G fight this past weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and I got hit him good one time and I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to really and then he came back and

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<v Speaker 2>beat that guy like he owe the money or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of like when we would people see

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<v Speaker 2>it say, y'all.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, y'all were amazing, and y'all man, y'all attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know long this was mad for real, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the one way and time where you could

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<v Speaker 2>get it out and it wasn't but it was like

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<v Speaker 2>he was out there playing ship through grit teeth and

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<v Speaker 2>meaning it.

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<v Speaker 3>How did it feel when he publicly said that The

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<v Speaker 3>Time was the only band he was ever afraid of?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, honestly, it didn't mean shit to me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like when people just like when all this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>comes out now where he says all this great stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about me, you know, it's just like it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>child talking about a parent that passed away. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why couldn't you say that to me when you're here?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I'm here you're talking. Why couldn't you say, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's you know, Jesse's amazing guitarist. And he couldn't say

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<v Speaker 2>that to me? And I got one compliment.

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<v Speaker 3>For E to say? Did he ever compliment?

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<v Speaker 2>One time? Partly because it was when I dropped crazy

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<v Speaker 2>And if y'all don't even notice, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you go back and listen to Housequake. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>he went and cut house with you here crazy in there?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Okay? That my next question?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you called me this is tramps. This is tramps.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean and Prince would go out and we're not drinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>so we would we where we we we we have

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<v Speaker 2>like a kind of a punk drink, like we would

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<v Speaker 2>get a clue and cream be more cream because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't drink.

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<v Speaker 7>So so that ship we would be Disney. We would

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<v Speaker 7>be dizzy as hell off of that, like we would

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<v Speaker 7>drink five you know, like you know, drunk off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, I turned him onto. I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of this, and y'all gonna laugh when I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what. But it's like Prince, he's a multi millionaire,

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<v Speaker 2>but he got a cabinet for Astin's Bumonti because that's

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<v Speaker 2>for people that don't drink. Because it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all drink that ship real drink and sink that they

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<v Speaker 2>head hurting because of sugar content. But we didn't drink

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<v Speaker 2>like you. We didn't drink like Mors could drink. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Morris wanted to fight everybody up in the

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<v Speaker 2>mon one beer. He didn't really drink, you know, So

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<v Speaker 2>so he's just like I just love to this day

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<v Speaker 2>he like my cousin. No, it is like major love

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<v Speaker 2>between Morris and I because that was the three amigos

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<v Speaker 2>right there, Morris, Prince and I. It's like you, it

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<v Speaker 2>was you. You saw one, you saw the three of us.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a period where you never saw and there

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<v Speaker 2>was other reasons, personal reasons where it was just ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being just printing eye all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But wait, are you on tricky? Is it you on tricky? Laughing? No? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I hear three people though.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just overdubbing. But I ain't. Oh okay, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you were there. I love the songs because the two

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<v Speaker 2>of That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about after this, about the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. But you go, you want to grab these

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<v Speaker 2>there's some marking my line to them. He there's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I did twenty seven hours, twenty thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>hours of music that you never heard before, and on cassettes,

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<v Speaker 2>what remastered of not. But I'm just trying to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you there's the whole entire for you album right right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the demo I played a little bit of effort

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<v Speaker 2>D on the phone. You almost died, I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>because what you hear like, I don't want people like

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want it to go a market and people just, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go to some collector and they buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just that it's like if you hear say,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, I want to be your lover, the genius,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's all with a rhythm ace hole out wow,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you hear sexy dancer, you hear sexy dancer

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<v Speaker 2>and it's sexy dancer is uh, but the rhythmce goes

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<v Speaker 2>boom god d b B. The fact that he heard

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<v Speaker 2>all of that ship and I when I went into

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<v Speaker 2>the studio with him, I would ask him, how did

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<v Speaker 2>you do all those drums? And then he would show

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<v Speaker 2>me how he did the drums and he would have

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<v Speaker 2>the machine played double time, so the machine he's going

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<v Speaker 2>take then he's a exactly And I just was like

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<v Speaker 2>wondering how he got the drums so super tight like

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<v Speaker 2>that and he And so when I hear people go

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<v Speaker 2>I played everything, I'm like, you didn't play everything. You

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<v Speaker 2>sequence some ship and turn on you do what I'm saying, No,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got it. I'm just telling you. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>marry you hear this, it's it's it changes you because

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<v Speaker 2>you hear the genius. They hear like, because I have

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, of Hendrix, Dylan, everybody that I own,

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody that I admire, I want to see what

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<v Speaker 2>they were, how they got there, or were they because

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most one of the only people that

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<v Speaker 2>walks the planet Earth that was one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>perfect writers out of the gate was Curtis Mayfield. The

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<v Speaker 2>first thing he ever did, going back to Jerry Butler, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this shit was immaculate. And then all of that impression

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's you don't they don't, they don't make that

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<v Speaker 2>to be that is And so I'm I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it was like that or not. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>first like, there's four or five versions ahead before he

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<v Speaker 2>got to the one that's like the one, and so

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<v Speaker 2>when you hear it, you go, this is w this

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<v Speaker 2>is but and then the same thing with do Me Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like three or four versions before he finally got

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean, the drums are different, the beat is different,

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<v Speaker 2>the ten. When he finally got to the one, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like and then there's a version of get it Up,

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<v Speaker 2>No Guitar that when the guitar solo happens to hear

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<v Speaker 2>what he actually does on the bass, fucking mind blowing man,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like dude was no joke on the keys Man.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know that's why I'm always telling D. I'm like, Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>when I put you up there, I'm putting you up there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been around some really talented people, and so

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<v Speaker 2>when I tell D he try to tell him you

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<v Speaker 2>ain't no running the meal Man.

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<v Speaker 8>Because how did he even get you? Like how because

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<v Speaker 8>it's not like you could just call up just D.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I have this. It's really freaky how this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I always said to myself, I'd only played for

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<v Speaker 2>two people. I only play with two people in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson because of he fucking Michael Jackson, D because

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<v Speaker 2>they're the album they did to this day. Sonically, you

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<v Speaker 2>never heard acoustic. You never heard a kick drama and

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<v Speaker 2>a snare sound like that ever on any record ever now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean people might do it now, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>that record that you heard a four string bass that low,

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<v Speaker 2>You heard a kick drama with that much bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a real kick drum. And I try to

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<v Speaker 2>tell tell D the Angel all the time how revolutionary

0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.680
<v Speaker 2>that album was sonically, not just musically, but sonically. You

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<v Speaker 2>know the sonny you come in real and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you're playing light or they're fading, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like man running. I can run off the roll

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<v Speaker 2>off a cliff listening to that because it's that hypnotic.

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<v Speaker 2>But people don't understand it's not just the vy. These

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<v Speaker 2>cats are bad quests on his game Pino D. It's sonically,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not of this earth. It's like and and

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<v Speaker 2>to think it's real instruments and nobody had ever heard.

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<v Speaker 5>Of I'm skipping ahead a little bit, but listening to

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<v Speaker 5>verbal penetration that your last that was the last time.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm not crazy in hearing like a voodoo influence

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<v Speaker 5>all over that.

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<v Speaker 2>You you could say that or say not, but but

0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.400
<v Speaker 2>as a blues player you play behind all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I don't know is when I did, like

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<v Speaker 2>say if I did, when I did be your man

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<v Speaker 2>and I delivered it, be your man is like but

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<v Speaker 2>if Quest was playing and I'd be behind him, but

0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.840
<v Speaker 2>la cats would be like man, that's not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of is a discreption. You know, there's

0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a discrepancy in the beat Leonard Albert Kravitz discrepancy. But

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<v Speaker 2>what people don't know is when voodoo came out, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people didn't and I tried to tell d

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<v Speaker 2>I said, see you on all of the Marvin Gaye

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff and that, this and that. But what you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know when what's the album with the leather? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the reviews, Go back and look at the reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened that people were like, who what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened? But people make it sound like they had

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<v Speaker 2>open arms, And was like, so when you do music

0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.040
<v Speaker 2>that people don't get? The albums are albums that constantly

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<v Speaker 2>do this over a period of time. And I kept

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<v Speaker 2>and I've always told D'Angelo, we make music they ain't

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<v Speaker 2>on the trend. So we're doing shit that's ahead all

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<v Speaker 2>the time of what everybody's thinking. We're bored with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're trying to do something that it's not so

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<v Speaker 2>much ahead or but just isn't on a trend. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just something we're pulling out of the sky. Something that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, that's you got your influences in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not what anybody knows. But it's on another level.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think musicianship wise, what they did on Voodoo Requests,

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<v Speaker 2>d you know, what they did on Voodoo was so

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<v Speaker 2>that only I remember riding in the car with John McClain.

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<v Speaker 2>He had just did the deal with the what's the

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<v Speaker 2>girls say? Yes, he just did all of that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because that was all a lot of hitting beach right. So

0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.800
<v Speaker 2>he was playing me that stuff all day. He was like, Oh,

0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.840
<v Speaker 2>We're riding around for eight hours in the car around LA.

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing me all this different stuff and I'm like, yo, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool. Check this out. And I put in voodoo

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like you like that, Like, man, this is

0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, because you know what that was. That was

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<v Speaker 2>D's there's a riot going on because there's a riote

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<v Speaker 2>going on with slies. Fuck you to the music industry,

0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.480
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know about. There's a riot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>When he delivered it, he was the two biggest artists

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<v Speaker 2>on Epic at the time. On the black side was Sly,

0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the white side was Johnny Winter. When he delivered there's

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<v Speaker 2>a ride going on. The record companies like, what the fuck?

0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.240
<v Speaker 2>What is this bullshit? This is garbage?

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<v Speaker 3>Dah da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was one of those records that captured what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on at the time, but it didn't just

0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:52.720
<v Speaker 2>capture verbally. It captured the vibe, the burning.

0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.120
<v Speaker 3>The heat, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Tension, and Voodoo did the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Can I can I assume.

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<v Speaker 9>He's not a good receiver of complimens.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not me because.

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<v Speaker 1>Twice I met Sly and you know he's going so

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I can't get the answer I went out

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<v Speaker 1>of him.

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<v Speaker 3>But assuming that during.

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<v Speaker 1>The Shachadelica period that you spoke to him about Riot

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<v Speaker 1>and his recollection.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there, what was what was just his mind state

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<v Speaker 3>to making.

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<v Speaker 2>That record, throwing everybody out the studio and just doing

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<v Speaker 2>He he was at the record plane in Salcelito, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was there so much. They made him. They took

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<v Speaker 2>the one of the rooms and they made him a

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<v Speaker 2>bed in it and it was a big old mouth

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<v Speaker 2>and the mattress was the tongue and they had a

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<v Speaker 2>they had you know, the mic thing on the wall

0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 2>that plugs in that thing. Yeah, was in the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of the vocals he's doing and he

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<v Speaker 2>laying down, so just like he's never ever done a

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<v Speaker 2>vocal and a headphone. So d D not knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>does the same thing. You know, d don't wear cans.

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<v Speaker 2>He has to have them speakers and he and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that Marvin Gaye did that. Marvin, we you'd

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<v Speaker 2>walk in the studio like Leon Silvers talks about walking

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio and hey, Marvin and Marl Hey, you know,

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.440
<v Speaker 2>sitting at the border going hey. But the old consoles

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<v Speaker 2>had where you can knock one of the speakers out

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.679
<v Speaker 2>of face, so they wouldn't they wouldn't come in and

0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Marvin would be sitting there and Marvin, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see no handwritten Marvin lyrics around because he he

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<v Speaker 2>never wrote anything down. Same thing with James, same thing

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<v Speaker 2>with sly It was all up here. So he and

0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.320
<v Speaker 2>so Slye. It was just on that straight, just crazy

0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.520
<v Speaker 2>genius shit. And he really didn't need his family or

0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.399
<v Speaker 2>anybody on a record. It's like, you know, there's a

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that did they do that, but I

0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:56.160
<v Speaker 2>was playing Mark never released you know, the these Summertime thing,

0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.840
<v Speaker 2>which is a beast and he's like and any and

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.120
<v Speaker 2>he's for one person will always go look my basse,

0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.160
<v Speaker 2>pa like he'll put somebody onse on bab and I'm like, dude,

0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 2>he's killing the bass. But going back to your question,

0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.200
<v Speaker 2>it's more of a Curtis Mayfield thing. My my thing

0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 2>is Curtis May Eddie Kendricks, and I'm like, it's not

0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.879
<v Speaker 2>like uh D and Prince were into like the stylistics.

0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.680
<v Speaker 2>But D's a real He's a real uh Eddie Kendricks

0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.880
<v Speaker 2>fanatic too. That's why he's got the bigger falsettobo where

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Prince was really into that. Dude said, that's you buy

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<v Speaker 2>ally whoever that.

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<v Speaker 5>I never really heard you use your falsetto much until

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<v Speaker 5>verbal penetration.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because I wrote all the A lot of the

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.280
<v Speaker 2>music I didn't write for me. I wrote for another

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.000
<v Speaker 2>guy that was supposed to sing it, and then he

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.240
<v Speaker 2>passed away when it was time to do this stuff,

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.880
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't. I kind of wanted to step away

0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.960
<v Speaker 2>from the mic and just play and not be straddled

0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.400
<v Speaker 2>with all that. I really enjoy it more when it's

0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.959
<v Speaker 2>a rock rock thing, but I know the R and

0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.119
<v Speaker 2>B stuff. But I just like sometimes it's like to

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<v Speaker 2>just like even being in D's band, it's just like

0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 2>not nice to just the other thing we did today

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:06.320
<v Speaker 2>with Chromeo. Uh just nice to just play guitar, not

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.199
<v Speaker 2>be Oh, give me a mic. I got a da

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<v Speaker 2>da da da. I don't never want a mic. I

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 2>just kind of have them put one on me and

0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.439
<v Speaker 2>we're on TV, so you get paid more. But I

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:16.280
<v Speaker 2>don't want that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to jump back again. I'm sorry for you. Good.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you remember the nineteen eighty four Minnesota Black Music Awards.

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<v Speaker 2>For me with me Plan?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think it was a time.

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.360
<v Speaker 2>It was a time a time.

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<v Speaker 5>I think somebody told me that you were supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>be singing lead on the on Jungle Love.

0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess Morris had already left the group or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, but then Prince ran out on stage and

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<v Speaker 5>did leads for the entire set.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that. I think that's a rumor, okay,

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 2>because I ain't never remember that shit. He didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that that I know. But Jungle of No he if

0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you ever hear his version, I mean it was the

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 2>same song, but if you're here, his vocal, he put

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 2>his foot in it, and Morris did a great job.

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But Prince, if you heard, Prince wrote that melody and

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics not. But it's just the whole twist. He

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.480
<v Speaker 2>dude could sing when he wanted to. And if you

0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 2>ever heard that, I was was always hoping because I

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.719
<v Speaker 2>don't I had that on a cassette and that froze

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 2>up like you know, A Land nine thousand a long

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.879
<v Speaker 2>time ago, and so you know, I don't have a

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:21.399
<v Speaker 2>copy of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh there's a rapid fire, because yeah, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>stop eventually. Was there ever talk of the time going

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:30.360
<v Speaker 3>on tour, on the Purple Raine tour?

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no no. But that's what's really sad.

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.639
<v Speaker 2>We I just originally talked to my manager about that.

0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:39.879
<v Speaker 2>We we we never reaped the Purple Raine thing. And

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.440
<v Speaker 2>because we were supposed to go on tour, and when

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I signed my record deal, very few, if anybody, only

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.919
<v Speaker 2>John McClean knows, and to know this in Prince, But

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 2>when I signed the A and M Records, I signed

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the deal, but I wasn't I didn't have to do

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.920
<v Speaker 2>a record for a year because I was like, I'm

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna go. Yeah, I wanted to go. And it was

0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna be our first time out without Prince. As was

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 2>to be on our own merit and you guys are

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:04.639
<v Speaker 2>going to do your own thing. Yeah, well that was

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>that was the whole thing. We were never ever ever planning. Prince,

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 2>was you kidding me? Prince was so sick of us

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 2>putting our foot in his ass after the nineteen ninety

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.120
<v Speaker 2>nine tour. He wasn't taking us in a back yard.

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 5>I figured because the Purple Range to itself is like

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.400
<v Speaker 5>basically the movie. So I figured, you know, why wasn't

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 5>Appolonia six there and why wasn't the time there?

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.199
<v Speaker 2>And it would have been because there's a bunch of

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 2>bullshit all connected with that ship, and I get tired

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 2>of listening to people lives and about it. First of all,

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the first Shila album was Vanity six is album, and

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Vanity kept saying I'm not going to be there. I'm

0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 2>not doing you know, she kept saying, I'm not doing

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Purple Rain. She was before she moved on Minneapolis, and

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.240
<v Speaker 2>he just thought she was joking. She wouldn't fucking jo.

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 3>That's why all the songs were done by the time.

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, and Chilo showed up to do some sessions stuff,

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.879
<v Speaker 2>and then and then some of the songs from the

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.919
<v Speaker 2>Vanity sixth album that album went to like the Mannic

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Monday that was a Vanity six It was like I

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>was there for all of that stuff. I was there

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 2>recording and doing all that stuff.

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 3>So that second time would have yeah, it would have

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 3>had like Vibrator and.

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>No whatever the Chile, the Glamorous Life that was Vanity's record, don't.

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what anybody trying to tell me. I

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 2>was there cutting it. I was there cutting the sugar

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.240
<v Speaker 2>walls and all that ship when she and Easton came

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 2>in and blah blah blah, oh sh I was there

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>for all of that ship. I was. I was there

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 2>for though, just it was really just Prince and I

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 2>because Morris had like ducked out then, so so all

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff was and we were. He was still

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>going back and forth trying to get Denise to do that,

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 2>that's how she ended up being Vanity because he would

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.719
<v Speaker 2>never let her use the name Vanity six, and her lawyer,

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 2>I forget his name, Abe something, but he knew a shit.

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 2>He said, we don't have to use Vanity six. We

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 2>used Vanity, and that's how she got to still be

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>van Uh.

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 1>The Tomorrow Maringie Cox project, The Tomorrow and the Scene album.

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any disappointment that didn't blow up even more?

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Or was it across.

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 2>The boards mash No? No, because that I was just

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>telling telling Bill earlier that that everybody danced It is

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the best sounding records I've ever made. It's

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 2>like it was mastered here at by George Marino. Got

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 2>what studio would, wouldn't I want to say, sterling sound?

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Am I?

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 2>Sterling? Yeah he did. He mastered that, and I was like,

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I never could get that sound again. But it was

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>like something I kind of did, like, you know, like

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>not really thinking that much about it. And then when

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 2>it came out here and he mastered it because I

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>never really go to masterings. I just let him do

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 2>that thing, and and he was mastered out here, and

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 2>I remember getting back the acetate of the toelesions, like, God,

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 2>this sh it is on fire when it comes on

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You're not here, but I could never but no, no, no,

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>you know what it.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Was the bottle.

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the big thing, the biggest thing to turn

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>me off is she didn't want it. Damn she didn't

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 2>want it. So when you don't want it, I'm like,

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>what am I supposed to do? If you don't want it,

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 2>then I didn't I'd have did records on you and

0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I had, And so the what was I think Blueberry

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 2>Gossip might have been the second round. I did a

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of those tracks, but I didn't do any of

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 2>them stupid ass lyrics. I didn't do none of that.

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I just did the tracks. But so that song Blueberry

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Gossip and all that stuff, that's all me, and a

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of the tracks are all me but lyrics. Yeah,

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 2>her and the Southern Cat David Cochrane finished all the record.

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't on any of that. I was like on

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 2>tour at the time, and I wasn't even investing in

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>any of my time in it.

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 5>No more say I made you sign that one. Then

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 5>I said, I'm sorry I made you sign that record then.

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Because I I love that means on Blueberry Gossip it's humping.

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know what the hell blueberry gossip.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that out, Jesse.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, since at the bottom of the barrel, trying to

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>figure out everything. But I gotta know you opened for

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Luther Vandross. I believe on the Night fl and Love tour.

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>That's what I remember because all my aunts were to

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that show. Luther is world famous for micromanaging his opening acts.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Let me explain some to you. Just talking, I was

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about that one of the most beautiful human beings

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>ever walked the planet. And let me let me tell you, seriously,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, let me tell you about Luther.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 2>So Luther, he brought me on and I'm in the

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>middle slot and he was so accommodating, so absolutely just

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>wonderful and being that because my shit is louder and

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 2>they their stuff is more stereo. His his band was

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 2>a may you know how ridiculous his band, so it

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.360
<v Speaker 2>was like shade. It sounded like a giant stereo. It's

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>just amazing. But my stuff was a little bit more raunching.

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 2>But he upgraded the monitoring system so that I would

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 2>be He really wanted me on that tour with him,

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>but his audience for the most part. Once we did

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>a week spectrum, right, it is no longer there. We

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 2>did a week at that's the one year. Yeah, the

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>one we did a week there was us. It was

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Luther headlining, me in the middle ready for the world

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>and ready for the world, a lot of ready for

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>the world stuff. People were kind of a thrown back

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 2>by them because they a lot of people thought that

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.719
<v Speaker 2>was prevent or me and so when they would open,

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>they would just get like, no, Love and and Philly

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 2>was death on them when they were open. This is

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>a spectrum, this is sold out the hits, but people listen,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>you never want your life they were, but you never

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 2>want your music to be bigger than you, because if

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>your music's bigger than you in the beginning, then your

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>music it's just a lot of shit. Like people would

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>would tell my girlfriend all the time, oh, like she'd

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>pick up my mail and they go, oh, ye're Sheila.

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh he wrote, oh Sheila about.

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>You and they said that they would to this day.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>That's not me. And I remember being at home on

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>a break on tour and hearing that whatever that beat

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 2>was for that and thought it was me. I thought

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>it was like a remix, I swear to God, for

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you have that half a second thing,

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you go, that's a remix of it, and then and

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 2>then that the music and you know like that ain't

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>you know? But it was like, how.

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Did you guys feel about? I mean, because coming.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Out Melvin singer, Yeah he was. I was always really encouraging, said,

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 2>don't let these folks get you down. You just got

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>to keep pushing because trust me, I was because once

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>we left they loved me. Philly and your time. They

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>loved us, they loved me, They showed me a lot.

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>That's why Luther was like, But we went to Baltimore next,

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 2>motherfuckers was wooden Statue.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 3>It was buppies.

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, that was a whole bumpy Luther drew like

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's what he was trying to get away from

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>because we don't understand that Luther was so amazing as

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>an artist. He's one of the few black artists that

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>went platinum every time, just on the black charts every time.

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>So you're saying that you guys were there for the edge.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>To bring a different audience in, to bring in a

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>younger audiences. But that's why we murdered because he did

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>some ship in Philly I ever seen before my life Philly.

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 2>That that week was the most amazing. I was in

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the dressing room, sitting there, uh, sitting there getting dressed

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>or something. I was sitting in and my back is

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>to the door, and I'm sitting in front of the

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>mirror and I hear you and my town I motherfucking yay, mister,

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>And I look up and it's doctor j and you know,

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's like, you know, that's fantasy ship for

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>us and our air and so for So that was

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>one thing. The other thing is that Luther was he

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>was a prankster, and so Luther would do always play

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>jokes and ship like you. You'd walk in the door

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>like he He'd be in a dressing room few doors down.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>And I remember walking in one time and the lights

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>were off, and I turned the lights on as a

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>mannequin with fucked up mask and ship on. You know,

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 2>your ship drop motherfuckers and drop glasses, and you hear

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Luther crying. But I heard that when he's he was

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>on tour with other female artists that he would But

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>let me do before you jump to that, this is

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>what it was. I my belief. That's a singing. So

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 2>when you're famous for being a singer and you ain't

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>really a singer, singer, you did what I'm saying. You

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>know how we snooty with that ship. It's like you go, oh,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>come and jam, oh, jam with you all day? Who

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 2>else is playing?

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Really?

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I ain't gonna beat it because you you. I

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>just can't play with anybody. I just can't. I can't

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>do it like you can't. Rehearsal and twenty twelve. I

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>played and jammed at rehearsal, and I was just like

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, from the Voodoo record. And so

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>we finally met and I'm trying to compliment him. He

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 2>walking the door, he's trying to compliment me. I'm trying

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to compliment, But I was really meant that he's id.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I just think he's one of the dopest cats around

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and he and it's a mentality in a movement. Oh no,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>he really. Where you really know he a bad cat

0:30:54.760 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>is when you watch that. It was a Dave Chappelle thing.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Motherfucker is the main stay. He's up. That's when I

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>really knew how bad he was because he's up there.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else is shifting, everybody's bringing, but he's standing there

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling you everything. They throwing it and he

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.479
<v Speaker 2>pulling it out and he's not pulling uh back, killing it.

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I knew it was bad. Even this

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>is after the Voodoo, right just after Voodoo, but I

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>knew That's what I knew. You know, when people you

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of see them cut their teen, you know, it's

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like when you probably he's like, oh, Jesse's he ain't

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>did an autu and such and such, so let me

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 2>listen to verbal and then and I kept telling people, no,

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I need to. I was like working with other you know,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>guitar instructors of a cat named Mark Hammond that wrote

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the intro to Really Love Yeah, played wrote and played that.

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>But I was taking listens to him because I was like,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I can come out all this time and be playing

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a little you know, I better come and be moving

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 2>and with some chords and some melody and show some

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.959
<v Speaker 2>serious growth and all that time. But you know what

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean. But I think I more than sufficed on

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>verbal Lyrically. It's one of my favorite records because I'm

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I do poetry and so to take poetry and try

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to put it to song lyrics that sing. And I

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.479
<v Speaker 2>keep looking at her because I saw I admire about her.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>She's like her. Her poetry is Ingrid. You forgot yeah, Ingrid.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>This is the greatest hand buship on life. And my daughter,

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>my my biggest thing of My daughter loves her. She

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>says face, I tricked her in the sand face today

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and my daughter loves the way she says faith.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 10>Face are you from?

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in Georgia?

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 10>But you didn't know that I.

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Didn't know that.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that I was in the presence

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>of greatness for the first hour of this interview bill,

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you have anything else.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I wanted?

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I wanted a Roger Trouting story about the Larry one.

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I've I knew that.

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You guys, Morris and Jerome used to get into it

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>with Larry all the time.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 2>And then Larry's girl came out and she was like,

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>super super bad.

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Way out of our league.

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Way, yeah, way, she's a woman, not a girl. She's

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>a woman. She's absolutely just breathtaking. But she stood at

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the side of the stage and we were standing behind her,

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and whatever her dress she had on. You when the

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>lights came on, you see, everything's like, oh, we're just crying.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>So we just like he just really well. Roger used

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to say a lot of stuff to us, like, you

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>go to those white people working for your you think

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Wonder Brothers is two niggas from over on we work

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>for the same people. Fuck out here with that ship.

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But he would say all that stuff, like he would

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 2>always say that stuff. Then he went up to Prince

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>one day. We were walking Prince walking the stage and

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, we have the same name. Roger

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of people don't believe Prince's name is Prince.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>It looks like he's named himself that, but that ain't

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>his name, and that's his real name. So Princess looks

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>at him crazy and keeps walking like not even says anything.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>So they just really kind of didn't didn't like us,

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and so we would always be messing with Larry. And

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>so Larry, Morris and Jerome tell you that's told yes,

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and they'll verify. But Larry said, I want to talk

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 2>to y'all. We went to the dressing room. It was me, Morris, Jerome,

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>we will go to his dressing room with him, and

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>he said, pull out a gun. He said, you.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 6>Motherfucker, you know what this is. So I'm forty two years.

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Old, motherfucker, and I'm behind. I'm the last one in

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 2>the thing.

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 3>I might get the fuck.

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 6>That's how ignorant. I was, like, get the fuck out

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 6>of here with that ship and.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Laughed and they were still there listening to him. But

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Morrison tell you, but he pulled the car. He said,

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to you. We like three fools

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 2>went in there, like the three stooges, and.

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 6>So you know what this is you know what man

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 6>forty two years old?

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 3>So was it just that you guys were prince, No,

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>we were just.

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what he said, say Tony, you had

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of hair shooting out of his nose and.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Just disrespectful.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 2>No, but he would say they would say a lot

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of stuff to us, and then we would throw bullets back.

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>And then he didn't. He just didn't like that. And

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.359
<v Speaker 2>then I think the last straw and it's that's your girl.

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, she bad, And it was something we didn't say.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 2>We didn't get more disrespectful than that, which was disrespectful,

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>but we didn't. We just oh, that's your oh man,

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 2>she bad. And then I think I said something stupid

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>like oh yeah, man, when the lights come on, I

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>really like her. And he's like, yeah, I need to

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 2>hollow chut you know, do that finger? Yeah, I need

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to hollow chiut?

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 11>Right?

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Can you say?

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 6>Can I talk to y'all for me?

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>You just you thinking? You on tour now? And I

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>always telling I'm always telling the Cats and D's band,

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the young Dudes. It's like, don't play with nobody, and

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>he said, you'll be casting guy shot on stage performing

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 2>It's like keep on messing with these these women. Man,

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, keep on. But I remember that Larry. Can

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I talk to y'all for a few minutes on normal ship,

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, because he was a really tall dude.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and.

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>He was older than everybody. He's talk to y'all brothers

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a minute, and followed him in his dressing room.

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Man, I pulled out a nickel plated with a pearl,

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>handling ooh.

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 6>About forty two years old.

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 2>You think I'm mother fucker to play with And I'm

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.479
<v Speaker 2>just ignorant. I'm just young. You know, when you're young

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 2>and you ain't scared, and you in the streets and

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 2>you got a gun at eight or nine of them

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to you to get the fuck out with that punk ass.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 2>And I swear to God and just to this. And

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 2>then when so when I got woke up and said

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>he shot, you know, Roger got shot, I was like,

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>he's probably about Larry. And I was in la at

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Jenkins cameo and woke me up and told me that,

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 2>and I said that sais probably by Larry and went

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to sleep. And it was like I knew that ship I.

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 5>Was supposed to be in dating that weekend when that happened.

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 5>But really I have more questions. Speaking of Young and Ignorant,

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 5>can you tell us about Old and Ignorant? The song

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 5>that became.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a song that Morris did and uh we

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>we we were. It was one of the during that

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.720
<v Speaker 2>period when Prince was like, yeah, yeah, you can recorded.

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>The whole wasn't shipped there so it ain't no reverb

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and you know, everything just dry date and speakers and

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>so it was one of the songs that Morrison I cut.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>But I did this thing on where I'm going to

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>where the beatings like boot boot instead of it like

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Prince would always go, do do do.

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Do do do do do do do.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>He just thought that was like the most genius thing.

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>He was playing the baseline in the studio and boom

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>ball and he just kept going while he's recording it

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 2>where the sunset sound. But we brought out that two

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 2>inch I mean a half inch, which I still have

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 2>the two track tape of that, and that's what that's

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 2>why ice Cream Hustle came from this song that we

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>did call Old and Ignorant, But we would we cut

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>about we.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Are young and we are funky, we are young, we

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>are they did that in rehearsals.

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you craft that.

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm playing all that ship on there. He he

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 2>uh was he was playing. I came up with that baseline.

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 2>All that was that tracked in the warehouse. No sunset sound.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 2>We did that sunset So because.

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I can hear at the towards the end of ice Cream,

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I just hear so much.

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>No a sunset time.

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>But even with you guys tracking in the studio, I

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>can hear like feet rattling papers.

0:38:55.760 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>On the like, because Prince used to take the forty

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>seven and pointed, you know, he would use it properly,

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>like I never use it that way because of you

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 2>could hear him. He always never worked with an engineer.

0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>He always punched himself in and out every vocal you

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>ever heard. Like when I was telling D'Angelo that, I

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, man, pick a song, pick a song, and

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>this is just to pick a song. He go controversy, wrote, recorded, written,

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.760
<v Speaker 2>all finished, mixed one day, everything right, recorded, mixed, finished,

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>one day. You know, he never spent more than one day.

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>It was done. We would go out to the club,

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I think many of the club clothes at one and

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>we go back out to the crib and I'd go

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to sleep on the couch and he walk up at

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>almost like clockwork, two thirty the next day, like nothing happened,

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 2>like just after being out all night?

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Were you were you impressed with what he was playing you?

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Or was it weird?

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Like if he's playing you, like if he's coming up,

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 1>like here's a song called do Me Baby and you're

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>listening all seven minutes, like is it weird you guys

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>listening to this or is it I.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Didn't listen to songs like that? They I didn't. I

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 2>felt weird listening to song like say a dude saying

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 2>like that, That's what I'm saying, Like, no, no, I didn't.

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I listened to song like he came. I

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 2>remember physically we went out club clothes. We came home

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 2>and I was like at this sectional thing in the

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>in the in the living room because he had this

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>gas fireplace that I hated it because you'd be freezing.

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Then you turn that shit on, now you're a thousand degrees,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>then you turn it off night cold. So he we down,

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>came up with the Lets's Pretend were married song finished

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.359
<v Speaker 2>and in the cap, but Morris went down first. He said,

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Marris come here this, and Morris went down there and

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 2>he's like, doom do that's and Morse much we're the

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>hand club said, you know Morrison, you know hand clups.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 2>He's like, hey, get train music. And then he comes

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 2>out and wakes me up and does Jess so you

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>come here this And I was like, oh, yeah, that's nice,

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 2>that's cool. I like that because I because I was

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>there when the Darling. I was there for when we

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>did all that purple and stuff. But it was like

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I went upstairs and Darling Nikki was done, and then

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 2>he went down. I went upstairs and went to sleep

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 2>for twenty minutes, and he would go wakes me up

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 2>and go cause I'm here this and I don't know

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>how he did that, but you know that double bass.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Then he's on the toms. It's a real drum set,

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>but he's on the I don't know how he did that,

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>but I was just amazed. But I'm like he knew that.

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I would just be like fucked up behind that. I'm like,

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>how did you do it? Because he just had a

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 2>little drum set out in the patio ors and.

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Like even you were still impressed.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I but I never like I'm singing on

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety nine, you know when you go Dan the

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 2>basic wan on them, I'm playing that, but he ain't.

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I ain't credited. And then on the end of the song,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Jill Jones to tell you it's me, Jill Jones and

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>prints on one mic and we're just going PD and

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 2>clapping and singing all that shit, and I ain't credited.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm on a lot of shit like that. And I

0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>was like, the one time I was so happy because

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>when nineteen ninety came, he had the depressing of it

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and the you know, the for the twelve inch or something,

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and it said I was but you understand, man, y'all laughing.

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 2>But that ship I was in First Avenue and he's

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>playing it and I'm like, yeah, and I see the

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 2>thing and I'm like, finally credited me and that ship

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't me, it was Jill Jones. And I was just like,

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 2>once again, I was just heartbroken. Be I was like

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>totally crack, like, you know, but you feel that's how

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>you feel. You don't feel like fucking you feel like

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>really really.

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 10>You know that feeling.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Really, but really that's how you felt. And so that's

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 2>why I so then I stopped like we were jammed

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 2>and we would do that that ship right there right.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So then I came up on the album as a

0:42:55.440 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>song and I was like, wow, and I'm not cy

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 2>so I stopped after that. I didn't just I was done.

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Was done?

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Was that? How did you get bella Saint mark?

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Because that was because I played a fort I played

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 2>as something I did on the four track or a

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 2>track around the same thing out of the jungle of

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>thing with the ah track, So I'm going and that's

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the main things I saw and I had

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 2>played him that a few days before and then he

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I heard that song and I was like, dude, really

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, what what tell me? And I

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I just can't explain it. When you in

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.479
<v Speaker 2>that space and you can't really tell him. You can't

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 2>really tell him because you feel like a punk if

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you tell him, I can't explain it. I can explain

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 2>it to today. I can go, hey man, that's my

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 2>but put my name in.

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 3>Greg filling Games was talking talking to.

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, if I got to tell you fuck you know,

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 2>and that kind of thing. Because he walked into the

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>where we rehearsing, because where we rehearsed. He had bought

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>this building, and we when you walked in the front door,

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the time was there. Then you walked through this door,

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and then his band was We would yeah, we would play.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 2>We would rehearse all day first and then when he finished,

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 2>we finished, then his band would be coming in.

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.479
<v Speaker 9>But didn't don't you think he knew that you would

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 9>never really say anything.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 2>He just to do weird shit like that, like he'd see.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 10>Me with he ain't gonna check me on it.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 2>So no, he I don't know if he really just

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, sublimely didn't know. But I would write some

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>stuff that was sticking to your craw because that whole

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 2>jungle of that h trac thing you see, that's all there.

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 2>It's actually funkier to me, but it's all there. It

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like, oh did he really do? It's all there.

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>And so when I walk in with just like with

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the time when we did, I walked in with those

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 2>songs on two inch, I already finished those.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I walked in with that ship finished. And so the

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:03.760
<v Speaker 2>same thing with Blondie, I walked in with those finished.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Nobody else is on those songs. I didn't walk in

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 2>the loose words. I walked in with a two inch

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>tape with those here.

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 3>It is, Hey, go ahead, I know.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 2>What sweet what you gonna say?

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Baby?

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Let that girl get it out there around.

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 10>Just gonna say this, Like I heard a small rumor

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 10>in the mirror.

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 8>I didn't even ask you about this, but I heard

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 8>there's a small rumor that like d'angelo's making music again.

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 2>If it's true, no, trust me, if you, Amir, can

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>tell you more about it.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 10>I didn't even ask what he's.

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Saiding on fifty or sixty things to make you never

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 2>want to play music again. You don't even understand.

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 10>Are you involved in anything that he's sitting on because.

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, I'm on on some stuff, but it's

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 2>mostly but he's the one that's on everything. Oh yeah,

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 2>he played me you know the song he did for

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Lauren Hill?

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 6>He played this ship for me.

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I had to leave. We were what's the one Henson?

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 2>And he said, I did this for Lauren?

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 9>Here is that what was supposed to be for Voodoo?

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 9>That that she never did?

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 2>No, that was just he and it's it's it's done.

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>It's you don't understand, it's the horns, it's it's you know,

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 2>he he. I can't even put in a where he's

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 2>got to me and I ain't talking about five or ten.

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>No, we talking like fifty at least. Just he's the

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 1>same way as we have, like we're up to two

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred songs. But you just got to stop and be

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 1>like here.

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.439
<v Speaker 8>But when you tell him stories about Prince making songs

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 8>in twenty minutes and stuff like.

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>That, why I was telling him that because I because

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 2>the day, because I don't get that going in and

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Fleetwood Mac would go they made great albums,

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>but they would be in there for a year, and I'm.

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Like that forever.

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I don't. I didn't come from that.

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.919
<v Speaker 2>We coming in whatever you got, get, churn it till

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 2>it you burn it, don't go in there. And I'm

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to sleep now forget you ain't thinking about

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 2>none of that. I'm still like that.

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Wait, I swear you guys, this is my last question.

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Then I'll stop it. Can you please explain the last

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds I don't want to He's going to know

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the answer to this. Yes, I feel like you do.

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>The last thirty seconds of I don't want to leave you,

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>which is just abruptly good, weird edit and to.

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 3>A jam in you can play it please, yeah.

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Because I don't. I didn't know when Mark played that

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 2>not long for me. I didn't even remember that even

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 2>being on the record.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so basically, I don't want to think the last

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you want me to pull it up because I'm playing

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I got that, So basically, here we go.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember that that was That was I think that

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was from a version of this song makeup. You know,

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 2>the song makeup, yeah, smoking. It was like there was

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>different versions of that because there there's a before the

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 2>time had a deal. There was a you you know

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.760
<v Speaker 2>about the what was it called was Jamie Susan exactly.

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's part of the stuff that I evaluated and

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>remastered and all that stuff, all of their stuff is

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 2>in there, and there was an actual deal in place

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 2>for that. There was a deal in place for that.

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>But that's Jamie's singing all that stuff. I can breathe,

0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 2>But that was a part of the It was part

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 2>of because there was a different That's that's what I'm

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>telling you. That some of the stuff that's in there,

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.240
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's got the Vanity six stuff, but Princes

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>singing it. Oh god, it's got It's like there's a

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>whole different version of makeup. And but what blew my

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 2>mind really was a was the the Prince album the

0:48:54.880 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Wanna Be Your Lover? Why? Why all this shit in

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 2>demo mode? But he and the vocals ain't really the

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 2>real vocal yet. So he's on. I ain't got no money,

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 2>but he can tell it. He's figuring out how he's on.

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you for anybody that's in the music

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and to hear how he's putting this shit together. To me,

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, priceless. I don't I don't want it to

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>go to some collector that got the actual cassette, because

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, he writes on all the stuff, because I

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 2>have a ton of stuff. I actually was listening. I

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 2>was because I'm moving in the process of moving to

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas, so I was opening up a box and

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 2>it's got these cassettes. You know, when the answer machine

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 2>had cassetts and if you and if they came on

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and you picked up the phone, a lot of times

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 2>they depending on all your ship. So there's conversations with something.

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, man, uh, come out to the thing man

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 2>that you know, come out to the house man, and

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why man, it's like one hundred and forty

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 2>degrees below zero nuts and you hear these conversations to us.

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like, bad, just come on out. And you always

0:50:01.280 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 2>you heard that tape where we're planning to walk and

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 2>rehearsal and it's like, really, I mean we kicking it

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>boom boom the Prince and I relationship. All of a

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 2>sudden the song stops. Rehearsal. You hear Prince Jesse, you

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 2>should and you can't. I've tried everything to see what

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, but you hear Boris, you hear Mars, You

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.280
<v Speaker 2>hear me go, Man, did you know what I'm saying?

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 2>You hear me go? Get the fuck fucking doing that?

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 2>You hear Brsel you're laughing, And it's like, that's our relationship.

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and I tried everything to have

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>the mastering to figure out what he said to me

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 2>what was because it's like, bat, we got you need

0:50:45.920 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 2>to dance more. Right, We're kicking that ship, is won't you.

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:11.919
<v Speaker 11>Dad?

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Thing right, We're kicking that you And all of a

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 2>sudden it's just abruptly Jesse because he's in He's over

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 2>here and you, Jesse, you need to.

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 3>And you hear me.

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just so typical because then you would think I

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>was like here and you have it right, Mark, you

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 2>have it.

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Fucking ship go up about four or five octors.

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Ain't doing that.

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 6>You're more like these two motherfuckers.

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 2>You just laughing. And we were just always like, but

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing that. I'm not Jesse, what the okay?

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Have we exhausted all our questions? I have one last question.

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.840
<v Speaker 5>Did the bill okay? You'll ask question Bill. This is

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 5>a quick yes or no answer. The song jungle Love

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 5>was it originally called Dreamer?

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 2>No okay? The Jungle Love was written, the music was

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>written for I said that in the demo when I

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:20.720
<v Speaker 2>posted it's written for Lenny Williams. Wait what the music?

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I did the music for Lenny Williams.

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Lenny Williams.

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Lenny was going to do it.

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 3>What's going to do with that?

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I said it in the in the

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 2>thing and then I said it, and then when I

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.919
<v Speaker 2>posted to demo and then Lenny say, hey, Jesse, what's

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 2>up man? Because On was working with Lenny and that's

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 2>who hooked that up. And that's how I wrote that

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 2>for him and before, but before I played it for him,

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, it's in these acting classes with

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:52.439
<v Speaker 2>ballet shoes and ship. Get this feeling vulnerable right now.

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>But the reason why they make you really went to

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>ballet class. The reason I was like, why am I

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 2>in ballet and doing all this ship with leotard on?

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Some pins? Yeah, but not the kind that you would

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>see like that, like you know, not the you know

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 2>but you got but you got your no, but you

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 2>got regular pain. You got them pants somewhere you got

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you got those. They're made out of some kind, but

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>they're not that clingy type. But you got to have

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 2>uh lit when you're doing that ship, because otherwise you

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 2>will crush your franks and beings.

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 3>That's why.

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 2>That's why when you see a ballet dance, you go,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:29.840
<v Speaker 2>why does this dude got a cup on? Who's going

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>to tackle him? Because you got because ballet was really

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 2>written for women and and and design for women. So

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you got to take all of your ship and go

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 2>up here like it doesn't exist. So you can because

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I always wondered why somebody's dude playing football after hours

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 2>or something? You got a cup on? So that wasn't

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 2>what the ballet Whenever you do acting for real and

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 2>you do true acting, what the ballet is for Like,

0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 2>they never said anything to you. Just okay, ballet class.

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, seen me leaving this month, but you're

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 2>in ballet class. But what it is, they sheot, They

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 2>teach a routine, and they teach a whole entire movement,

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 2>all the way to the end. And what they what

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it's doing is doing memory for lines. Okay, So if

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 2>you can remember that whole routine and you know, and

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 2>they and ballets all in it, one, two, four and

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 2>all that crazy ship. But just if you can remember

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:26.280
<v Speaker 2>that whole routine from the beginning, all the way this movement,

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 2>all the way to the end and around and back

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 2>again somewhere else, then it helps you remember your lines.

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>So develops memory, muscle memory, they call it.

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I never knew that.

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 10>I didn't know that, Ingrid, did you have to do

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 10>that too?

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 3>For that was before she wasn't.

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 10>No, I knew. I just figured it was an acting period.

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:46.880
<v Speaker 2>We had to do that. The whole summer was acting

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and ballet. Acting in ballet, because.

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Even if you didn't have lines in the film, you

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 3>still want to.

0:54:55.080 --> 0:55:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Be in there doing some routine. That crazy ass in

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 2>there too. Yeah, yeah, everybody was in.

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Did you have any lines that were cut from the film,

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 5>because I know Jellybean have to scene where him and

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 5>the kid get in a fight.

0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of when you do a movie,

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 2>they they go to LA and they have these special screenings.

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Because I remember editing being out there editing, uh and

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:24.240
<v Speaker 2>talking to Clint Eastwood and he was there screening the Rookie.

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.759
<v Speaker 2>And so that's why a lot of Purple Rain was

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>reshot because there's a part scene in Purple Range editing,

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and there were he prince goes up the mors and

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 2>slaps the spit out of his mouth. But when all

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 2>this shit what happened. There's a lot of things in

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Purple Range that when the testing audience watch is supposed

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh my god, they were Karyan. You

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:47.279
<v Speaker 2>know black folks, man, you know black folks. They ain't

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna sit there. They're gonna beat that ship, get the

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and so a lot of scenes there were supposed to

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh man, he wentn't slapped. They had to

0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 2>take that ship out because it was like it's like

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Hart slap up in the rock. It's like, dude,

0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:06.919
<v Speaker 2>we not ain't believable, and that's why there's so much.

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 2>There's so much. Okay, okay, okay, No, you know, I'm

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 2>so grateful about everything in my career. I'm so grateful

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 2>about all the ignorant shit we did. There was no

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 2>self there was no cell phone cameras because we used

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to do the time like we would be on stage.

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 3>This is true.

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Ship was on stage and and this is the nineteen

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine tour. So the time we'd go up there

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and play and then dudes will be there with their

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 2>girls and Ship and the girl would be like you know, yeah, yeah,

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe in front of me and I. One time I

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:41.920
<v Speaker 2>turned my back and Jerome was on this platform with

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Monty and Jerome would be up on the platform doing

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that clap thing, and Jerome was and as I'm turned

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:51.800
<v Speaker 2>facing my back to artist, Jerome goes and I turned

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like what you know, like you're looking at somebody face

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and you're like what what wasn't you turn on nothing?

0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Some As you watch the video, dude took a magnum.

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>It was bad before when they would let people bring

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.399
<v Speaker 2>shit in the Constabody took a magnum bottle and threw

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it at me. What and it went and it missed me,

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 2>but it slid under the Rise of Jerome was on.

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 2>So but let me how ignorant we were. Let me

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you ignorant we were. We would come off of stage,

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 2>go put on, go change, come out and start pointing,

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 2>get that motherfucker and tell you get his punk ass

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 2>to it, and the dudes would come backstage. It would

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 2>be me and Jerome, Yeah, bring that ship back here,

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and the guy would be talking mad that. The dudes

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 2>would be talking mad shit to me, he's scaring you, motherfucker.

0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't know Terry was back there with no

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:41.480
<v Speaker 2>shirt on, some church shoes, church pants. Yeah, bring them motherfuckers.

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 2>They would one guy start crying. And we were so

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.280
<v Speaker 2>ignorant that we would go back out after turning it out.

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Get this motherfucker, Yeah you want to throw bring your

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 2>punkt and they would be talking shit because would just

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 2>be me a Jerome walking them back and it would

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 2>be everybody back there way, Yeah, bring the motherfuckers. And

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:00.520
<v Speaker 2>and and when we were on that.

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.640
<v Speaker 6>Were like bring people are going lok is the time.

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if there was camera phones back then man, I'm

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 2>so glad there was none of that ship existed video cameras.

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 10>Because I'm I want to see it.

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>This is going to be the final question, because I'm

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask the question that like wraps up the thing.

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 9>Are you because I want to you know, we got

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 9>three hours?

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, even Jimmy.

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 10>Jam after he didn't put you know, put the record out.

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 8>Okay, that's fine after Freedy Bridge, but that's fine. I

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 8>just all right, he put on after Graffiti Bridge and

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:43.760
<v Speaker 8>was like her album never.

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 9>Didn't come out.

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Because you can't leave.

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 10>I'm an electra.

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was dollars and nobody still cares spent a

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 2>million dollars.

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, go ahead, and then that's my question.

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 9>So as you as we sit here.

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Were you on the set when I was had to

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 2>grab him and all that stuff? And were you in

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the set when something happened and everybody clear set and

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Prince was sitting on the floor and they made everybody

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>clear the set. Were you in the set when that happened?

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.160
<v Speaker 2>What happened, I had to grab him and like man

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 2>handle him or something, and I didn't wasn't you know,

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really doing that much. But I don't know

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 2>what happened. And he sat on the floor and everybody

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and then they were like every Craig Rice, everybody cleared.

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Everybody cleared the rice, everybody clear the room. Everybody. They

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 2>made us. I'm thinking something we part of this ship came. Oh,

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like really, but I thought something bad because no, no,

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he There was a lot of times. But yeah, I

0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to remember, I'm talking about doing that my hair as

0:59:53.560 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 2>long as hell, but I'm talking about doing that when

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I go out because it's too much work.

0:59:58.200 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well I know.

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why.

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like going, No, I'm gonna get there's a place

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 2>in la that does it, because I want my hair

1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.200
<v Speaker 2>blonde or red or whatever I wanted to be. I

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:08.640
<v Speaker 2>don't want it to do that to my own hair,

1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to be somewhere in the middle

1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 2>of this place is in Europe. I mean, it's up

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:16.680
<v Speaker 2>to date now. But if you went into London and

1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Paris and especially Paris and all that stuff like in

1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the eighties and with no black hair, not ship nowhere,

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you ain't. Still ain't a lot of places. And yeah,

1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 2>and I remember going and trying to find that shit

1:00:33.200 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 2>was at a specialty like perfume store. And it was

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 2>that old remember that mom type ship? Remember Mom? Y'all

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:42.560
<v Speaker 2>don't remember Mom. That ship was a yeah. Yeah, it

1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 2>was that kind of ship. And it was like, yeah,

1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like yeah Mom, like yeah, I'm Mom all right?

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, no, I get it with the because

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.840
<v Speaker 2>he had what he was going from. I don't know

1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.680
<v Speaker 2>his actual hair was always long, but he made it

1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:03.360
<v Speaker 2>longer for the movie or something, but.

1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:05.200
<v Speaker 10>It was perfect. It was late.

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who gives a ship? I mean, I'm like, that's

1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:09.120
<v Speaker 2>what you're supposed to when you start.

1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:09.800
<v Speaker 10>Nobody gives a shit.

1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 8>But that whole sentence that you said about putting the

1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:13.000
<v Speaker 8>extra stuff in your hair and dying and stuff like that.

1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:17.640
<v Speaker 2>That right on the floor. But my hair can't take

1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:18.680
<v Speaker 2>it to be right on the floor.

1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:19.320
<v Speaker 10>No, I get it.

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I should have fallen out so faced so fast it

1:01:22.000 --> 1:01:25.120
<v Speaker 2>ain't even funny. Man. So now I don't I'm putting

1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.000
<v Speaker 2>some other ship in my hair. So I ain't even

1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:29.000
<v Speaker 2>got a comb it. I just wanted, can y'all make

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it where I can just wake up and it still

1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 2>looks cool?

1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:32.320
<v Speaker 3>That ship.

1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what I am not lying, dude. I never seen

1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:36.800
<v Speaker 2>dude's hair messed up.

1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:39.080
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and especially when he went through the fingerway.

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:41.640
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about

1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:45.120
<v Speaker 2>three of the nineteen ninety nine Purple Rank perfectly quaffed.

1:01:45.240 --> 1:01:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Fucker will walk out.

1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Of the bedroom and I just say you, I hate you.

1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:51.000
<v Speaker 2>He would watch his ship would be I was like,

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:52.720
<v Speaker 2>how do you are you sleeping?

1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 8>Like what do you which makes me think about Purple

1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:57.960
<v Speaker 8>Ringin and Graffiti Bridge and like, was there ever scenes

1:01:57.960 --> 1:01:59.920
<v Speaker 8>where the woman got to put her hair?

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 2>No, but trust me as a friend, as we were

1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:06.000
<v Speaker 2>just like we never washed our hair. That's why hair

1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:08.440
<v Speaker 2>looks so good. You don't know, No, it's the hair

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:11.800
<v Speaker 2>ain't funky, but you know, black hair, when you wash it,

1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:14.880
<v Speaker 2>it takes a long time to get brinks back to it,

1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:18.120
<v Speaker 2>like when it was looking real cool. Devil should take weeks.

1:02:18.160 --> 1:02:21.320
<v Speaker 2>So we like so Prince was would have this really

1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 2>back when I really skinny, curling iron and he would

1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:28.200
<v Speaker 2>be for hours be talking to him. Yeah, man, we

1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:31.040
<v Speaker 2>all did. We didn't never have a hairdresser on us.

1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:35.760
<v Speaker 9>You just I mean, those sons don't really know.

1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:38.000
<v Speaker 2>But we got we got long ass hair. We out

1:02:38.040 --> 1:02:39.960
<v Speaker 2>there trying to be pretty and ship too. We don't

1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:42.360
<v Speaker 2>care about what dudes think we did. I always tell

1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:44.320
<v Speaker 2>dudes all the time. Who was I talking to? I

1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:48.120
<v Speaker 2>think I was in was Maxwell? I was like, you

1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:51.480
<v Speaker 2>care about what the dude thinks? Dudes don't buy ship

1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:53.960
<v Speaker 2>women the one to go buy it. Women to go.

1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Dudes be his dudes. Oh man, you got that copy.

1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:01.439
<v Speaker 2>That's what dude women. I want the picture. I want

1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:03.280
<v Speaker 2>to read all the shit in it. I wanted to.

1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like Dan, and I'm not thinking about what No, dude,

1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:08.880
<v Speaker 2>thanks Wait, I forgot the most important question that we

1:03:08.920 --> 1:03:12.280
<v Speaker 2>would have killed ourselves for asking for not.

1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Asking you, we didn't mention we're pink at all? And

1:03:16.080 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 3>there were how many suits pink suits? How many pink

1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:20.120
<v Speaker 3>suits did you own?

1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:23.080
<v Speaker 2>And like, no that it's a story behind it though,

1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Jamie shut. We were rehearsing on a Sunday the time,

1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and Jamie Hue came out with Uh. She met us

1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:32.680
<v Speaker 2>out with Prince because Andre's my own sister up until

1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:36.280
<v Speaker 2>UH from the nineteen ninety nine tour, and she made

1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:41.320
<v Speaker 2>all of the clothes Andre's older sister or older sister, Sylvia,

1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Sylvia Anderson. She made all our clothes and so the

1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:48.200
<v Speaker 2>day that they brought out the swatches, to look at

1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the swatches, and so if you've ever seen any video

1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of the time, we used to call it the Shrek light.

1:03:55.520 --> 1:03:57.120
<v Speaker 2>We used to call it because what we used to

1:03:57.160 --> 1:03:58.960
<v Speaker 2>call it the Hulk because it wasn't no Shrek then.

1:03:59.520 --> 1:04:01.720
<v Speaker 2>But well, he's knew when we was kicking ass because

1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:03.440
<v Speaker 2>that green all the lights will go off and to

1:04:03.560 --> 1:04:06.240
<v Speaker 2>just be this green light and motherfuckers be looking like Martians, right,

1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:09.280
<v Speaker 2>you think it's just tossing now. So if you watch

1:04:09.400 --> 1:04:11.480
<v Speaker 2>videos from the very first tour, you never see me

1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:14.040
<v Speaker 2>because I was like, I'm cool. I got around black little.

1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:17.439
<v Speaker 2>I know, my black ass wasn't saying either. So when

1:04:17.480 --> 1:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>they brought into swatches, uh, they're Jamie showing us his

1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:25.320
<v Speaker 2>watches and it's like this real cool swatch of this

1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:29.479
<v Speaker 2>fusia mohair, you know it like changes colors. And I said, Prince,

1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:32.440
<v Speaker 2>you should wear that, and he, honestly the stack of bibles,

1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:35.000
<v Speaker 2>he said, oh man, I wouldn't wear that. People already

1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:37.440
<v Speaker 2>say enough stuff about me, And I said, fuck that,

1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll wear it. And that's how that came to be,

1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:41.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's how I wore it. And then it worked

1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:43.680
<v Speaker 2>out perfectly because no matter how much dark he put

1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:46.479
<v Speaker 2>me in, you saw my ass. You saw my ass

1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in the dark. When I walked on stage in the dark,

1:04:48.640 --> 1:04:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you could hear him. On the day, I was like, yeah,

1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you see, mom, you can't put the light out on

1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:57.360
<v Speaker 2>my black ass. Now I got on this pink white

1:04:57.360 --> 1:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and a white shirt. Yeah, yeah, before I didn't consider

1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, he really beat the shit out of

1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:05.800
<v Speaker 2>our assets on the first tour because we didn't know

1:05:05.840 --> 1:05:08.280
<v Speaker 2>anything yet. We was like getting he was you know,

1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:10.640
<v Speaker 2>he was on the top of the speaker doing all

1:05:10.640 --> 1:05:13.240
<v Speaker 2>of that and jacking off the guitar and this and

1:05:13.240 --> 1:05:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that and that, and we were just like getting our

1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:17.680
<v Speaker 2>ass handed to us. You know, anybody only knew a

1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:22.160
<v Speaker 2>couple of songs on the record. And second tour, shit

1:05:23.040 --> 1:05:27.560
<v Speaker 2>fuckers came out clean, ready, came out with some step

1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and had it hard, and so then he was like

1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and it was weird. And then we saw the tide

1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:37.680
<v Speaker 2>turn where I was telling Inger today how we would

1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:41.200
<v Speaker 2>outsell him on merchandise because a dude ain't gonna wear

1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:43.480
<v Speaker 2>no shirt I belonged to Prince, you know, ain't gonna

1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:46.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, unless he you know, different and wanted to

1:05:46.160 --> 1:05:49.560
<v Speaker 2>belong to prints. But most dudes ain't gonna wear that.

1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:52.360
<v Speaker 2>But our shit said, ain't nobody bad like me? I'm

1:05:52.400 --> 1:05:55.200
<v Speaker 2>so cool, and so so we would. Midway through the

1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:57.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety nine too, we'd always sold over a million

1:05:57.320 --> 1:06:01.640
<v Speaker 2>dollars at merchandise because I should appeal to both men

1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:02.080
<v Speaker 2>and women.

1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Well how did you up keep it?

1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Though?

1:06:03.720 --> 1:06:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Because the thing is is that the pink thing? I mean, yeah,

1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:10.200
<v Speaker 3>because you do a show, you're sweaty as hell. I

1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:12.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know how many.

1:06:11.440 --> 1:06:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you. I don't for some reason, on sweat

1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:14.240
<v Speaker 2>like that.

1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:15.920
<v Speaker 3>He's too cool.

1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I never I never have.

1:06:17.520 --> 1:06:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't drinks.

1:06:18.560 --> 1:06:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't. Yeahs D sweats more than D sweats before

1:06:25.440 --> 1:06:28.560
<v Speaker 2>he even starts the seriously as an athlete, because he

1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:31.240
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, I never seen anybody sweat like that.

1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:34.600
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying, but no, I know what you

1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:37.720
<v Speaker 2>say that you have to take care of it every night. Yes,

1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:39.800
<v Speaker 2>on the time tour because you got it. But you

1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:41.919
<v Speaker 2>gotta watch the beginning of the tour if you see

1:06:41.920 --> 1:06:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the things, because I got cuffs and everything that's you know,

1:06:45.280 --> 1:06:48.320
<v Speaker 2>before we had professional clothing makers, like the clothing makers

1:06:48.320 --> 1:06:50.720
<v Speaker 2>that take the material throw it in a vat of

1:06:50.840 --> 1:06:53.160
<v Speaker 2>water pre shrinking and all that didn't make the clothes.

1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:55.240
<v Speaker 2>But see, we didn't have that. We just had somebody's

1:06:55.280 --> 1:06:58.200
<v Speaker 2>sister making us some stuff. And she wasn't didn't know

1:06:58.240 --> 1:07:00.360
<v Speaker 2>all about that. Then, like these people that may close,

1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you can be completely wet, you won't see it. You

1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:06.280
<v Speaker 2>like the cat that made all the clothes for Purple

1:07:06.360 --> 1:07:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Raine and stuff. He grew up in the same we

1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:11.360
<v Speaker 2>were from the same hometown Rock Louis. Lewis Wells for

1:07:11.480 --> 1:07:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Louis and Vaughan that made all the ship for Purple

1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Rain and num was princes those was Lewis Wells patterns

1:07:17.560 --> 1:07:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Prince War to the end of his life. That's all

1:07:19.560 --> 1:07:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Lewis Wells. He designed and cut all that ship. But

1:07:23.040 --> 1:07:25.000
<v Speaker 2>they knew their ship like they would know. They have

1:07:25.080 --> 1:07:27.200
<v Speaker 2>them the wash, the silk, and so you know how

1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:30.520
<v Speaker 2>when you sweat you won't see it. I don't They're

1:07:30.560 --> 1:07:32.800
<v Speaker 2>just magicians that the ship or something like how your

1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:37.120
<v Speaker 2>counts be on stage three four? Hey, what y'all got

1:07:37.120 --> 1:07:40.480
<v Speaker 2>invisible counts? And breaking in the bad ship. Don't tell

1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:44.160
<v Speaker 2>nobody no keys doing this ship all. Now, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>y'all don't breaking the bad ship. Don't even you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna okay, yeah, job I went.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the key.

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<v Speaker 2>They was killing ship. And y'all got invisible keys like

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<v Speaker 2>the count Okay, got you your classics are flat, We

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<v Speaker 2>went to your Jesse keys. Those were more I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>those for Morris Case. I can't sing you. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the very first videos, my pants are nice, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>got the pleats, got cuffs. But look as a tour,

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<v Speaker 2>going up is higher, not a cuff is gone, is

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<v Speaker 2>shrinking higher. And yeah, that's that. So that was one suit.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I did the first album, then there was

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<v Speaker 2>like three or four of those.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Like twelve shoes, and then I would always have my

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<v Speaker 2>door open to my room and so girls would come

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<v Speaker 2>in the room, my door would try and be wide open,

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<v Speaker 2>like and no, they just would be chilling, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were ninja's. I would go on tour like twelve pair

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<v Speaker 2>of white boots, right, come home with three because they

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<v Speaker 2>were taking a ship.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you I just saw you, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're like, how did you do that?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But once again going back to you know, the camera

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<v Speaker 2>phone thing, it's like scary to do a self with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody because even now, because the era come from, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody got a selfie with you, you were somewhere selfie

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<v Speaker 2>with them, and it's like meaning somebody can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like say, if you go to court somebody said he

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<v Speaker 2>did this to me, I don't even know her. Why

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<v Speaker 2>y'all on this like that while y'all you know, dollars

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<v Speaker 2>just scares me. I he never went through that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watched enough enough crime shows, like when Patrisa O'Neil

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<v Speaker 2>said he he would go buy a stick or com

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<v Speaker 2>and go okay, okay, so he won't be because because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm lazy, you don't want to throw the pepsicn the

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<v Speaker 2>PEPs can't rapist and ship.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like you, just you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him to death so much. I miss him.

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<v Speaker 2>So he Jesus a great guy. Absolutely. That's why when

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Faison Love said that Dave Chappelle is

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<v Speaker 2>and funny, and I'm like, he might not be funny

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not intellectual. Dave Chappelle is genius. Dave Chappelle

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<v Speaker 2>is from the George Carlin. He's from that even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to be whatever. But his comedy is very very

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant Bill Cosby back in the day, and he's Dave

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<v Speaker 2>has all of that and more. He's like, he's scary Wallace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because George Wallace said something that to me. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you ever noticed when you move? He say, my wife

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<v Speaker 2>is darker than me. And he said, we were moving,

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<v Speaker 2>found a bottle of sun tann locean. We looking at

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<v Speaker 2>each other like, you know what that type of humor

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<v Speaker 2>that I you know, And then I saw I men

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<v Speaker 2>we played Vegas. He would come on after us, and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him cut some kids out and everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said he was allowing people in the joke in

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<v Speaker 2>the audience to say some jokes and his kids, the

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<v Speaker 2>little kids to them.

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<v Speaker 12>Saying, yo, mam is so fat that blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 12>And he said, well, what are you doing down there?

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<v Speaker 12>You have your ass and it so wout.

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<v Speaker 6>Your fat ass.

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<v Speaker 12>Mama, your mama, your mama so ugly. The birds fly

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<v Speaker 12>upside down so you have the ship.

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<v Speaker 11>On it like because.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I loved George.

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking loved Georgia, who was all in the memories

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<v Speaker 2>on the same floor in the dressing room, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where I ran into Regina King when she was doing

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<v Speaker 2>that Southland and she was killing that pixie she had

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<v Speaker 2>that I was, she was killing that ship. I was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like when I saw Gabrielle Union tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling question no, but she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was having a heart attack and she's like she's I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Wondering, I wonder if she remembers me, because I met

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<v Speaker 2>them all they were like, you know, they're right on

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<v Speaker 2>that Cus twelve thirteen, and so you're like it was her, Kim,

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<v Speaker 2>Phil's and Janet they were all like best of friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I met her way back then when they

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<v Speaker 2>were the little kids, and they were like, ohs a

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<v Speaker 2>crush and I was just wondering to know. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like it was like this big and I'm like ah

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<v Speaker 2>and then I no, no, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just her back with Stuarts. But she was looking at

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<v Speaker 3>me like she's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful. But whenever you how you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>how you know where I'm coming from. Elsa is a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful kid, you know, like I say to her, her young,

1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.800
<v Speaker 2>beautiful kid, her too, it's a beautiful kid. And then

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<v Speaker 2>that means you know that I'm looking at her like

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<v Speaker 2>that and not as like some perverted.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh you a area too, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I'm telling you because I had girls so young,

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<v Speaker 2>I just good for you daughter. I have enough of them,

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<v Speaker 2>that's damn sure. I feel like in some way, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm they they He'll tell you they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>together girls.

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<v Speaker 8>They're having a daughter means that he needs to learn

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<v Speaker 8>some lessons about his life before he.

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<v Speaker 2>Had no because I had him so young, I was

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know anything about life when I was a young father,

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<v Speaker 2>like at fifteen sixteen, married and all that shit. So

1:12:55.360 --> 1:12:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I had girls early, and so they just you learn

1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:01.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things. Like I hear guys say they

1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:04.160
<v Speaker 2>might only have one to have a boy and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the best thing for man a it's a son.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's bullshit because a father and son it's a

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<v Speaker 2>yin yang. So if the son and mothers like insuperable

1:13:14.720 --> 1:13:17.720
<v Speaker 2>and and my father is like, the daughter can come in.

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<v Speaker 2>So I killed eight people, they must have been fucking

1:13:22.800 --> 1:13:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, And and that's a that's an amazing and

1:13:26.240 --> 1:13:27.520
<v Speaker 2>important relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we uh initially thought we were just getting an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>And a half. Well y'all got to know and now

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<v Speaker 3>we have a double episode. So, uh, I'm sorry, Steve.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, I'm good, I'm good. How many episodes

1:13:45.040 --> 1:13:46.519
<v Speaker 3>did you do? Doing these two episodes?

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<v Speaker 13>One a nice tour of Electric Lady for the for

1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:53.880
<v Speaker 13>the Sugar Network. But you never asked a question that

1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:55.840
<v Speaker 13>you said was going to wrap up the whole cause

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<v Speaker 13>like you interrupted you so you had some larger you

1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:00.720
<v Speaker 13>had some question that was that was gonna everything up?

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<v Speaker 3>Well it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of mentioned his kids, which was based on

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, I've never I've never been in prison.

1:14:07.720 --> 1:14:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I've never I've never been a heroin autics. There's so

1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:13.599
<v Speaker 2>much bullshit out there about me, but no, there's never

1:14:13.640 --> 1:14:16.360
<v Speaker 2>been in prison, never been a heroin addict, never did drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>never drank, never did none of that.

1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Ship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all a bunch of bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my wrap up question was what do you want

1:14:22.840 --> 1:14:23.800
<v Speaker 1>your legacy to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Just what James Brown and West Montgomery, you Hendrix, You

1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:31.320
<v Speaker 2>you leave great music because that should all outlive everybody

1:14:31.360 --> 1:14:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I would get to upset when people say, James,

1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:36.840
<v Speaker 2>but no, we're all gonna fucking eat it. You just

1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:39.719
<v Speaker 2>hope that you live. You leave something that's a mark

1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:42.760
<v Speaker 2>for your children to get their train, because as songwriters

1:14:42.800 --> 1:14:47.439
<v Speaker 2>and artists, that is your that is your your land,

1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, because think about it how the land thing

1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:53.000
<v Speaker 2>really works. You pay taxes on it the money you

1:14:53.000 --> 1:14:54.559
<v Speaker 2>buy it with, and then you pay tax on the

1:14:54.560 --> 1:14:57.240
<v Speaker 2>rest of your life. This ship that you're leaving them,

1:14:57.560 --> 1:15:02.920
<v Speaker 2>this music and every that intellectual property is like to me,

1:15:03.040 --> 1:15:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the real deal ship. So it's just like, even even

1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:12.120
<v Speaker 2>as tragically as losing uh somebody like like Prince, but

1:15:12.200 --> 1:15:15.120
<v Speaker 2>at least what that catalog like when pep wan to

1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:16.439
<v Speaker 2>hear people go, I don't like that, want to help

1:15:16.520 --> 1:15:19.240
<v Speaker 2>me do that? I'm like, yeah, but if I got

1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a catalog, he can't play for three hours and you

1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:24.040
<v Speaker 2>know the B sides because he got a catalog like

1:15:24.080 --> 1:15:26.760
<v Speaker 2>it's Lasi brothers can go play a four hour show

1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's all hits.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, are you making sure yours is protected?

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<v Speaker 8>Because I wonder, in the American idol sense of things,

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<v Speaker 8>even though you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I choke somebody to death isn't even about you

1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:42.040
<v Speaker 2>no more. It's about the It's about your your children

1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and and and so you do make sure. That's why

1:15:44.120 --> 1:15:47.360
<v Speaker 2>I stopped making records like the verbal record was supposed

1:15:47.360 --> 1:15:50.280
<v Speaker 2>to be on Universal, was supposed to be on Where's

1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Angie Said label? Angie Stone was on uh J Records.

1:15:53.880 --> 1:15:56.759
<v Speaker 2>You No, it was when she did the baby record

1:15:56.760 --> 1:15:58.479
<v Speaker 2>that label. It was supposed to be on that label,

1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.000
<v Speaker 2>but they want to it's It wasn't Jay. It was

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<v Speaker 2>out of like We're Laila Hathaways on.

1:16:04.160 --> 1:16:07.519
<v Speaker 3>That label Concord exactly, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to own the masters and ship and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I ain't doing it no more, I said, So

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<v Speaker 2>I said, anything I do, I'm going to own it

1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:17.120
<v Speaker 2>from here on out, going back to bear my nekeds own.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my first foray into independent. I think

1:16:20.800 --> 1:16:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I printed one hundred thousand through BMG. They sold them all.

1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And so now I'm on eBay right now watching a

1:16:27.720 --> 1:16:30.080
<v Speaker 2>copy unopened and it's one hundred and twelve dollars and

1:16:30.080 --> 1:16:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like me, I ain't paying that for that, but

1:16:32.800 --> 1:16:34.559
<v Speaker 2>I just want to see how crazy there's even an

1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:39.200
<v Speaker 2>unopened copy on Amazon for like two hundred and some dollars.

1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:42.040
<v Speaker 2>But I would admit I had to go buy and

1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I had to pay forty dollars apiece for that shit

1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:47.360
<v Speaker 2>because I burnt. I sold every copy I made.

1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:50.519
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I tend to lose records too. Yeah, have

1:16:50.560 --> 1:16:52.400
<v Speaker 5>you ever thought about putting those two albums out digitally?

1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:55.200
<v Speaker 5>Because they're not the the I couldn't find they are.

1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:56.439
<v Speaker 5>I couldn't find Bear my nakeds Home.

1:16:56.520 --> 1:16:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's on purpose, but I am it's part of

1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the there's a whole thing that I'm going to do

1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:03.519
<v Speaker 2>that I'm actually that's why I'm moving to Vegas. I'm

1:17:03.520 --> 1:17:05.960
<v Speaker 2>not moving to Vegas because I'm moving to Vegas because

1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm just getting away from everybody and everything and I'm

1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:12.519
<v Speaker 2>ringing the crib. Nobody's gonna Vegas. No, no, no, but

1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:15.519
<v Speaker 2>not that I know. I don't know anybody that I'm

1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:18.639
<v Speaker 2>moving in. No, he lives Miami and things, but I'm moving.

1:17:18.720 --> 1:17:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm moving there. Farmhouse in the middle of nowhere, studio,

1:17:24.479 --> 1:17:28.160
<v Speaker 2>no furniture, just the gear, the guitars. The studio are bad,

1:17:28.520 --> 1:17:31.760
<v Speaker 2>and a TV. And I have these three records that

1:17:31.840 --> 1:17:33.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't even know about. He'll tell you that they're

1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:37.519
<v Speaker 2>all new ship and they're just crazy shit and and

1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm having this campaign behind them. And then after those

1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:42.519
<v Speaker 2>are all done in the campaign's moving, then that's when

1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll finish the audio book. Because there's so much ship

1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that y'all don't know.

1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:50.479
<v Speaker 6>The ugly shit. It's like he really choked the line.

1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.120
<v Speaker 5>When can we expect the first of these three projects

1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:55.120
<v Speaker 5>to come out? The first of the first of the

1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:57.840
<v Speaker 5>three projects. They're all coming out the same time. It's

1:17:57.840 --> 1:17:59.760
<v Speaker 5>gonna be a three tier thing, and it's not it's

1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:01.559
<v Speaker 5>not a kickstarter or something to finance.

1:18:01.560 --> 1:18:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Everything will be done. It's a pre sale thing because

1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:06.599
<v Speaker 2>now the way records are now, you know, folks renting

1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:09.320
<v Speaker 2>music and shit, so you and and and they're negative

1:18:09.400 --> 1:18:11.479
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be CDs. That's the all antiquated thing. So

1:18:11.520 --> 1:18:13.320
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a twenty four bit ninety six

1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:16.519
<v Speaker 2>k every version and saying then and also the same

1:18:16.640 --> 1:18:21.519
<v Speaker 2>versions and you know, wax if I the part of

1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:24.519
<v Speaker 2>the campaign if it reaches a certain number most death

1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:29.200
<v Speaker 2>out of doubt. Yes, So it's got the it's it's

1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:31.200
<v Speaker 2>three album and it's a three tier thing, but it's

1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:34.000
<v Speaker 2>more involved in it. It's like each there's gonna be

1:18:34.080 --> 1:18:37.720
<v Speaker 2>a photo booklet, a colorful lit book booklet that you

1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:40.120
<v Speaker 2>will have in person and the poster. But the color

1:18:40.320 --> 1:18:43.400
<v Speaker 2>booklet will detail everything about the records, like what pedals

1:18:43.400 --> 1:18:46.320
<v Speaker 2>with me playing what I'm doing, what the chords are

1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a whole shot like that and I and I'm just

1:18:48.400 --> 1:18:50.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to decide if I want to do it physically

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<v Speaker 2>or if But I know I'm never making a CD

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<v Speaker 2>again because I can't even listen to Verbal on CD.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds if you hear it in the studio on

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<v Speaker 2>you know ninety six twenty you know twenty forbid ninety

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<v Speaker 2>six K, it's a totally different record. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the CD. It sounds so garbage. And so

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<v Speaker 2>what is you spend all these tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars that come up with this bad ship and then

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<v Speaker 2>diither it down to some antiquated bullshit. I'm done. That

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<v Speaker 2>ain't never happening. Then when people like you know I

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<v Speaker 2>see people we want the CD way, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>get an a track while you at that shit too,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not making that, but you will have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability when you get your card you can burn all

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<v Speaker 2>you want. But I ain't making that ship no more

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<v Speaker 2>because I can't hear it. I'm telling you it's terrible sounding.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I didn't know it would be that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But because Verbal was cut high deaf and I should

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<v Speaker 2>have put out a high deaf as well as a

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm still going to do a vinyl

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but I'm just gonna pick certain things and

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<v Speaker 2>do it on the vinyl.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Well, Sarah Johnson, I thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much for your conscience long over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys too for being dreaming so wonderfuhy, I

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<v Speaker 2>answered all the bad questions.

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<v Speaker 3>You answered everything to Shout out to my uncle Jesse

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<v Speaker 3>rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh that's the one you. Oh yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to think you know how. I want to give a

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to and and well wishes to his mothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Mike Garcia. Oh really yes, he's a Baltimore might

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<v Speaker 2>love to you man. He's always been just really really

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful and ever you put in the paper regarding all

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<v Speaker 2>of us, he's just been like really okay, shout out

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<v Speaker 2>well Deanna, love you baby.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>She was gonna come and she got tired, so she

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<v Speaker 9>went back to Philly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Now I'm just gonna thank Inger for coming and thank

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<v Speaker 8>you all for bringing it.

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<v Speaker 10>That cheesecake.

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<v Speaker 3>That cheesecake was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Fanicolot's countertops right now in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, there's there's two other members of this team

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<v Speaker 1>missing today.

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<v Speaker 8>Later, I want to talk to ingri Off, like about

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<v Speaker 8>what it's like to be a woman in this environment

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<v Speaker 8>and not be able to really talk too much? Or

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<v Speaker 8>can you because I don't know because we didn't get

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<v Speaker 8>to talked about her about.

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<v Speaker 5>That questions, But yeah, I mean I can come up.

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<v Speaker 2>With fool year. She's a boss.

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<v Speaker 10>I know she is. That's why I wanted her to

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<v Speaker 10>be able to over.

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<v Speaker 14>How about I come back?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, where do you live?

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<v Speaker 9>I live in New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 10>I live a few hours.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you come back?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anytime now that we know you're here.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah that I'm still alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes we are. I do have a new record coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>you do?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, I do?

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<v Speaker 3>You do?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm coming out, should be out by the end of summer, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have like, what three albums already?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you calling it? January twenty first?

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<v Speaker 9>It's going to be called Memories of Flying.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was May nineteen, nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 14>It was just a date that we picked that was

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<v Speaker 14>around the time that we were, you know, creating the

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<v Speaker 14>album artwork and stuff. But it was just meant to

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<v Speaker 14>be like a lot of my records are are like journal,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, entries, and that makes sense, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all my songs, so it's like journal. We will

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<v Speaker 3>do a proper ingroage.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that we know you're here, all right, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes for another exciting conclusion. Quest Love sagree

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<v Speaker 1>with Jess Johnson, would also like to think of vez

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<v Speaker 1>we were stopping them, Drew dropping a lot of duels, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Apple Sugar, Steve and Boston Hill and Laia and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the QLs family. And thank you for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you the next episode on the

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<v Speaker 1>next Goverram all right, see you later. Quest Love Supreme

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