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Speaker 1: Court Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to part two of our Jesse Johnson review.

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Speaker 2: No pun attended.

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Speaker 3: This is QLs.

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Speaker 1: Classic from August eighth, twenty eighteen, Part two of our

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Speaker 1: interview with Jesse Johnson on Course Love Supreme.

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Speaker 2: Hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 4: Previously on Court Love Supreme, we talked to the great

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Speaker 4: Jesse Johnson about his beginnings in Rock Island, Illinois, music

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Speaker 4: scene in Davenport, Iowa, of all places, and arriving in

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Speaker 4: Minneapolis as the Formation of the Time was just starting.

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Speaker 3: We also talked.

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Speaker 1: About who fights and vanity, and also we might have

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Speaker 1: a surprise guest by the name of Angership as Popin

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Speaker 1: First Boss Bill has a question that may be familiar

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Speaker 1: to those who heard the Jimmy jam Miner.

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Speaker 2: Here it is.

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Speaker 3: I got a question. Yes, who broke the titty lamp?

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I glued I know, I glued the ship.

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Speaker 2: I glued the ship. The juice glued that and one

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Speaker 2: day and arm deep in the juice machine. We didn't

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Speaker 2: suck that up too. And that dude that owned that

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Speaker 2: was mister weaver. He was no joke and his brother

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Speaker 2: had clogs on. You remember him shoes clogs and so

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Speaker 2: when you a brother straight and you wearing clogs, you

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Speaker 2: really are no nonsense kind of. But we were like

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Speaker 2: we were moving something a table and the teddy lamp

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Speaker 2: fell on.

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Speaker 5: For anybody that doesn't know what we're talking about, go

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Speaker 5: back and listen to the jet one of the seven

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Speaker 5: hours of the Jimmy jim.

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Speaker 1: The first the first two hours I was there, I forgot,

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Speaker 1: brought me way back.

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Speaker 3: We got.

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Speaker 2: I came with some Elmer's glue man and had that

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Speaker 2: ship rigged up, and that dude still knew it. He

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Speaker 2: man who broke the titty lap.

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Speaker 6: I was like, what what are.

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Speaker 2: You talking about? We glued. I glued that ship so

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Speaker 2: well that you know when you have fine pieces and

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Speaker 2: still fit. And he somehow still saw that shit. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I just need to know who broke the titty. Like, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: ease up to my car right about fighting. No old

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Speaker 1: They used to shooting and choking people. Well, since we're

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Speaker 1: asking who. Eventually, let Prince know what jam and Lewis

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Speaker 1: were really doing in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he knew. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he knew for a long time. But something about them

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Speaker 2: missing that because the next day we were in San Antonio.

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Speaker 3: But I thought they got away with it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, they they were in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And it's weird, hard work because it hadn't snowed during

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Speaker 2: fifty years, literally fifty years, and we were in here.

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Speaker 2: We're here in New York. We were here in New York,

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Speaker 2: and we played the place Radio City. Yeah, radio what

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Speaker 2: was the place before Radio City? Where no where? The

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Speaker 2: David Boy tell of everybody was in Frank Zappa, Grace Jones,

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Speaker 2: it was God, it was before the it was before

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Speaker 2: Radio Ladium maybe, yeah, ladium, that's what. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: it might have been that place. But I but I

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Speaker 2: think what you but shore you're talking about was it

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Speaker 2: played him because he kicked us off of a lot

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Speaker 2: of the major kicked us off of New York Radio City.

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Speaker 2: I never knew until you get there. You get there

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Speaker 2: for sound checking out and yeah, y'all ain't on this,

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Speaker 2: but we're playing behind the curtain for I'm like, it

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Speaker 2: just bought a bit. Yeah, I said, just heartbreaking because

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Speaker 2: you never played those places and so your whole dream

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh man, you would, and so it would

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Speaker 2: I did like the brother on a David Letterman, you know,

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Speaker 1: When when you left, officially, I guess at one point

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Speaker 1: you were deciding whether or not to No, I never

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Speaker 1: There was no before you left the Reserve. You need

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Speaker 1: to talk of you taking over for Morris in the time.

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Speaker 2: Never never never, because the time was his thing, it

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Speaker 2: I to this day, He'll tell you, I have major

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Speaker 2: D's my boss, and so there's a lot of things

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Speaker 2: that have made If I don't agree with something, but

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Speaker 2: because he's my boss, when we're on tour, I don't

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Speaker 2: say anything. But when we're home, there's been plenty of

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Speaker 2: times when I call him the fucker you can fire me.

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Speaker 2: I'm at home now, blah blah blah. But you know,

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Speaker 2: he he but I respect him greatly. It's his thing.

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Speaker 2: And I never step on anybody's toes during that thing.

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Speaker 5: feel like for you have to take over the leads

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Speaker 2: I always you were always yes, I was always kind

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Speaker 2: like the guy that he didn't have to come to

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Speaker 2: rehearsals if he knew what I did, so how arrangements

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Speaker 2: the guy that runs this and I was never that

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you're rehearsing though, and each album is

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Speaker 1: six songs each, like, I mean, at what point are

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Speaker 1: you just doing the stuff it's just add nausea, You're not.

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Speaker 2: It was, it was, it was something that worked. It

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Speaker 2: it worked against the boss because it was a busy

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Speaker 2: but you guys got making it sixty dollars a week

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Speaker 2: because you know, when you go on stage like that,

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Speaker 2: you're you're not only good, but you're pissed. You don't

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Speaker 2: want to It's just like when a fighter says a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff about it. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you saw that last Triple G fight this past weekend

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Speaker 2: and I got hit him good one time and I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of like when we would people see

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Speaker 2: it say, y'all.

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Speaker 6: Man, y'all were amazing, and y'all man, y'all attitude.

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Speaker 2: They don't know long this was mad for real, and

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Speaker 2: it was the one way and time where you could

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Speaker 2: get it out and it wasn't but it was like

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Speaker 2: he was out there playing ship through grit teeth and

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Speaker 3: How did it feel when he publicly said that The

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Speaker 3: Time was the only band he was ever afraid of?

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Speaker 2: You know, honestly, it didn't mean shit to me. It's

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Speaker 2: just like when people just like when all this stuff

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Speaker 2: comes out now where he says all this great stuff

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Speaker 2: about me, you know, it's just like it's like a

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Speaker 2: why couldn't you say that to me when you're here?

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Speaker 2: You know, when I'm here you're talking. Why couldn't you say, Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's you know, Jesse's amazing guitarist. And he couldn't say

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Speaker 2: One time? Partly because it was when I dropped crazy

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Speaker 2: And if y'all don't even notice, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: tell you go back and listen to Housequake. That's why

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Speaker 3: Right? Okay? That my next question?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you called me this is tramps. This is tramps.

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Speaker 2: I mean and Prince would go out and we're not drinkers,

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Speaker 2: so we would we where we we we we have

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Speaker 7: So so that ship we would be Disney. We would

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Speaker 7: be dizzy as hell off of that, like we would

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, I turned him onto. I said, you

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Speaker 2: never heard of this, and y'all gonna laugh when I

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Speaker 2: tell you what. But it's like Prince, he's a multi millionaire,

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Speaker 2: but he got a cabinet for Astin's Bumonti because that's

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Speaker 2: like you. We didn't drink like Mors could drink. But

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Speaker 2: you know, Morris wanted to fight everybody up in the

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Speaker 2: so he's just like I just love to this day

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Speaker 2: he like my cousin. No, it is like major love

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Speaker 2: between Morris and I because that was the three amigos

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Speaker 2: There was a period where you never saw and there

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Speaker 2: was other reasons, personal reasons where it was just ended

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Speaker 3: But wait, are you on tricky? Is it you on tricky? Laughing? No? No,

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Speaker 2: That's just overdubbing. But I ain't. Oh okay, I thought

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Speaker 2: you were there. I love the songs because the two

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Speaker 2: to you about after this, about the things that are

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Speaker 2: there's some marking my line to them. He there's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just I did twenty seven hours, twenty thirty two

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Speaker 2: hours of music that you never heard before, and on cassettes,

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Speaker 2: what remastered of not. But I'm just trying to tell

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Speaker 2: But the demo I played a little bit of effort

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Speaker 2: because what you hear like, I don't want people like

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Speaker 2: I didn't want it to go a market and people just, oh,

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Speaker 2: And it's just that it's like if you hear say,

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Speaker 2: for instance, I want to be your lover, the genius,

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Speaker 2: but it's all with a rhythm ace hole out wow,

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Speaker 2: and then you hear sexy dancer, you hear sexy dancer

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Speaker 2: and it's sexy dancer is uh, but the rhythmce goes

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Speaker 2: boom god d b B. The fact that he heard

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Speaker 2: all of that ship and I when I went into

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Speaker 2: I played everything, I'm like, you didn't play everything. You

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Speaker 3: The heat, the.

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Speaker 3: Is there, what was what was just his mind state

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Speaker 2: That's because I wrote all the A lot of the

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Speaker 2: so I didn't. I kind of wanted to step away

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Speaker 2: with all that. I really enjoy it more when it's

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Speaker 2: just kind of have them put one on me and

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Speaker 3: I want to jump back again. I'm sorry for you. Good.

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the nineteen eighty four Minnesota Black Music Awards.

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Speaker 2: For me with me Plan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it was a time.

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Speaker 2: It was a time a time.

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Speaker 5: I think somebody told me that you were supposed to

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Speaker 5: No, no, but then Prince ran out on stage and

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Speaker 2: I don't remember that. I think that's a rumor, okay,

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Speaker 2: because I ain't never remember that shit. He didn't do

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Speaker 2: But Prince, if you heard, Prince wrote that melody and

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Speaker 2: ever heard that, I was was always hoping because I

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Speaker 2: up like you know, A Land nine thousand a long

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Speaker 3: Oh there's a rapid fire, because yeah, we got to

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no no. But that's what's really sad.

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Speaker 2: We I just originally talked to my manager about that.

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Speaker 2: We we we never reaped the Purple Raine thing. And

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Speaker 2: I signed my record deal, very few, if anybody, only

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Speaker 2: a record for a year because I was like, I'm

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00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: gonna go. Yeah, I wanted to go. And it was

433
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: gonna be our first time out without Prince. As was

434
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: to be on our own merit and you guys are

435
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: going to do your own thing. Yeah, well that was

436
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: that was the whole thing. We were never ever ever planning. Prince,

437
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: was you kidding me? Prince was so sick of us

438
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: putting our foot in his ass after the nineteen ninety

439
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: nine tour. He wasn't taking us in a back yard.

440
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 5: I figured because the Purple Range to itself is like

441
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 5: basically the movie. So I figured, you know, why wasn't

442
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 5: Appolonia six there and why wasn't the time there?

443
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: And it would have been because there's a bunch of

444
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: bullshit all connected with that ship, and I get tired

445
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: of listening to people lives and about it. First of all,

446
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: the first Shila album was Vanity six is album, and

447
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Vanity kept saying I'm not going to be there. I'm

448
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: not doing you know, she kept saying, I'm not doing

449
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: Purple Rain. She was before she moved on Minneapolis, and

450
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: he just thought she was joking. She wouldn't fucking jo.

451
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: That's why all the songs were done by the time.

452
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and Chilo showed up to do some sessions stuff,

453
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 2: and then and then some of the songs from the

454
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: Vanity sixth album that album went to like the Mannic

455
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: Monday that was a Vanity six It was like I

456
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: was there for all of that stuff. I was there

457
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: recording and doing all that stuff.

458
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 3: So that second time would have yeah, it would have

459
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: had like Vibrator and.

460
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: No whatever the Chile, the Glamorous Life that was Vanity's record, don't.

461
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody trying to tell me. I

462
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: was there cutting it. I was there cutting the sugar

463
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: walls and all that ship when she and Easton came

464
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: in and blah blah blah, oh sh I was there

465
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: for all of that ship. I was. I was there

466
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: for though, just it was really just Prince and I

467
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: because Morris had like ducked out then, so so all

468
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: of that stuff was and we were. He was still

469
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: going back and forth trying to get Denise to do that,

470
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: and she was like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And

471
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: that's how she ended up being Vanity because he would

472
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 2: never let her use the name Vanity six, and her lawyer,

473
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 2: I forget his name, Abe something, but he knew a shit.

474
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: He said, we don't have to use Vanity six. We

475
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: used Vanity, and that's how she got to still be

476
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: van Uh.

477
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: The Tomorrow Maringie Cox project, The Tomorrow and the Scene album.

478
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any disappointment that didn't blow up even more?

479
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: Or was it across.

480
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: The boards mash No? No, because that I was just

481
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: telling telling Bill earlier that that everybody danced It is

482
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: one of the best sounding records I've ever made. It's

483
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: like it was mastered here at by George Marino. Got

484
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: what studio would, wouldn't I want to say, sterling sound?

485
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: Am I?

486
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

487
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: Sterling? Yeah he did. He mastered that, and I was like,

488
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I never could get that sound again. But it was

489
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: like something I kind of did, like, you know, like

490
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: not really thinking that much about it. And then when

491
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: it came out here and he mastered it because I

492
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: never really go to masterings. I just let him do

493
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: that thing, and and he was mastered out here, and

494
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: I remember getting back the acetate of the toelesions, like, God,

495
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: this sh it is on fire when it comes on

496
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: You're not here, but I could never but no, no, no,

497
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: you know what it.

498
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: Was the bottle.

499
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: I think the big thing, the biggest thing to turn

500
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: me off is she didn't want it. Damn she didn't

501
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: want it. So when you don't want it, I'm like,

502
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do? If you don't want it,

503
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: then I didn't I'd have did records on you and

504
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: I had, And so the what was I think Blueberry

505
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: Gossip might have been the second round. I did a

506
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: lot of those tracks, but I didn't do any of

507
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: them stupid ass lyrics. I didn't do none of that.

508
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: I just did the tracks. But so that song Blueberry

509
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: Gossip and all that stuff, that's all me, and a

510
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: lot of the tracks are all me but lyrics. Yeah,

511
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: her and the Southern Cat David Cochrane finished all the record.

512
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: I wasn't on any of that. I was like on

513
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: tour at the time, and I wasn't even investing in

514
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: any of my time in it.

515
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 5: No more say I made you sign that one. Then

516
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 5: I said, I'm sorry I made you sign that record then.

517
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: Because I I love that means on Blueberry Gossip it's humping.

518
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: I just don't know what the hell blueberry gossip.

519
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still trying to figure that out, Jesse.

520
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: Okay, since at the bottom of the barrel, trying to

521
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: figure out everything. But I gotta know you opened for

522
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Luther Vandross. I believe on the Night fl and Love tour.

523
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: That's what I remember because all my aunts were to

524
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: that show. Luther is world famous for micromanaging his opening acts.

525
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: Let me explain some to you. Just talking, I was

526
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: talking about that one of the most beautiful human beings

527
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: ever walked the planet. And let me let me tell you, seriously,

528
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: let me tell you, let me tell you about Luther.

529
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: So Luther, he brought me on and I'm in the

530
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: middle slot and he was so accommodating, so absolutely just

531
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: wonderful and being that because my shit is louder and

532
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: they their stuff is more stereo. His his band was

533
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: a may you know how ridiculous his band, so it

534
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: was like shade. It sounded like a giant stereo. It's

535
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: just amazing. But my stuff was a little bit more raunching.

536
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: But he upgraded the monitoring system so that I would

537
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: be He really wanted me on that tour with him,

538
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: but his audience for the most part. Once we did

539
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: a week spectrum, right, it is no longer there. We

540
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: did a week at that's the one year. Yeah, the

541
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: one we did a week there was us. It was

542
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Luther headlining, me in the middle ready for the world

543
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: and ready for the world, a lot of ready for

544
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: the world stuff. People were kind of a thrown back

545
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: by them because they a lot of people thought that

546
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: was prevent or me and so when they would open,

547
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: they would just get like, no, Love and and Philly

548
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: was death on them when they were open. This is

549
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: a spectrum, this is sold out the hits, but people listen,

550
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: you never want your life they were, but you never

551
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: want your music to be bigger than you, because if

552
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: your music's bigger than you in the beginning, then your

553
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: music it's just a lot of shit. Like people would

554
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: would tell my girlfriend all the time, oh, like she'd

555
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: pick up my mail and they go, oh, ye're Sheila.

556
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 6: Oh he wrote, oh Sheila about.

557
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: You and they said that they would to this day.

558
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: That's not me. And I remember being at home on

559
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: a break on tour and hearing that whatever that beat

560
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: was for that and thought it was me. I thought

561
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: it was like a remix, I swear to God, for

562
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, when you have that half a second thing,

563
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: you go, that's a remix of it, and then and

564
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: then that the music and you know like that ain't

565
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: you know? But it was like, how.

566
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Did you guys feel about? I mean, because coming.

567
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: Out Melvin singer, Yeah he was. I was always really encouraging, said,

568
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: don't let these folks get you down. You just got

569
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: to keep pushing because trust me, I was because once

570
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: we left they loved me. Philly and your time. They

571
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: loved us, they loved me, They showed me a lot.

572
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: That's why Luther was like, But we went to Baltimore next,

573
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: motherfuckers was wooden Statue.

574
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: It was buppies.

575
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: You know, that was a whole bumpy Luther drew like

576
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: and that's what he was trying to get away from

577
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: because we don't understand that Luther was so amazing as

578
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: an artist. He's one of the few black artists that

579
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: went platinum every time, just on the black charts every time.

580
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: So you're saying that you guys were there for the edge.

581
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: To bring a different audience in, to bring in a

582
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: younger audiences. But that's why we murdered because he did

583
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: some ship in Philly I ever seen before my life Philly.

584
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: That that week was the most amazing. I was in

585
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: the dressing room, sitting there, uh, sitting there getting dressed

586
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: or something. I was sitting in and my back is

587
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: to the door, and I'm sitting in front of the

588
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: mirror and I hear you and my town I motherfucking yay, mister,

589
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: And I look up and it's doctor j and you know,

590
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: and that's that's like, you know, that's fantasy ship for

591
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: us and our air and so for So that was

592
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: one thing. The other thing is that Luther was he

593
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: was a prankster, and so Luther would do always play

594
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: jokes and ship like you. You'd walk in the door

595
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: like he He'd be in a dressing room few doors down.

596
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: And I remember walking in one time and the lights

597
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: were off, and I turned the lights on as a

598
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: mannequin with fucked up mask and ship on. You know,

599
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: your ship drop motherfuckers and drop glasses, and you hear

600
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Luther crying. But I heard that when he's he was

601
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: on tour with other female artists that he would But

602
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: let me do before you jump to that, this is

603
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: what it was. I my belief. That's a singing. So

604
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: when you're famous for being a singer and you ain't

605
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: really a singer, singer, you did what I'm saying. You

606
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: know how we snooty with that ship. It's like you go, oh,

607
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: come and jam, oh, jam with you all day? Who

608
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: else is playing?

609
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: Oh? Really?

610
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't gonna beat it because you you. I

611
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: just can't play with anybody. I just can't. I can't

612
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: do it like you can't. Rehearsal and twenty twelve. I

613
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: played and jammed at rehearsal, and I was just like

614
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: I was, you know, from the Voodoo record. And so

615
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: we finally met and I'm trying to compliment him. He

616
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: walking the door, he's trying to compliment me. I'm trying

617
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: to compliment, But I was really meant that he's id.

618
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: I just think he's one of the dopest cats around

619
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: and he and it's a mentality in a movement. Oh no,

620
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: he really. Where you really know he a bad cat

621
00:30:54,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: is when you watch that. It was a Dave Chappelle thing.

622
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: Motherfucker is the main stay. He's up. That's when I

623
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: really knew how bad he was because he's up there.

624
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: Everybody else is shifting, everybody's bringing, but he's standing there

625
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you everything. They throwing it and he

626
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 2: pulling it out and he's not pulling uh back, killing it.

627
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: And that's when I knew it was bad. Even this

628
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: is after the Voodoo, right just after Voodoo, but I

629
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: knew That's what I knew. You know, when people you

630
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: kind of see them cut their teen, you know, it's

631
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: like when you probably he's like, oh, Jesse's he ain't

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: did an autu and such and such, so let me

633
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: listen to verbal and then and I kept telling people, no,

634
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: I need to. I was like working with other you know,

635
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: guitar instructors of a cat named Mark Hammond that wrote

636
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: the intro to Really Love Yeah, played wrote and played that.

637
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: But I was taking listens to him because I was like,

638
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: I can come out all this time and be playing

639
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: a little you know, I better come and be moving

640
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: and with some chords and some melody and show some

641
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 2: serious growth and all that time. But you know what

642
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: I mean. But I think I more than sufficed on

643
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: verbal Lyrically. It's one of my favorite records because I'm

644
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: I do poetry and so to take poetry and try

645
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: to put it to song lyrics that sing. And I

646
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 2: keep looking at her because I saw I admire about her.

647
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: She's like her. Her poetry is Ingrid. You forgot yeah, Ingrid.

648
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: This is the greatest hand buship on life. And my daughter,

649
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: my my biggest thing of My daughter loves her. She

650
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: says face, I tricked her in the sand face today

651
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: and my daughter loves the way she says faith.

652
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 10: Face are you from?

653
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: I grew up in Georgia?

654
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 10: But you didn't know that I.

655
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: Didn't know that.

656
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that I was in the presence

657
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: of greatness for the first hour of this interview bill,

658
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else.

659
00:32:59,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: I wanted?

660
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: I wanted a Roger Trouting story about the Larry one.

661
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: I've I knew that.

662
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: You guys, Morris and Jerome used to get into it

663
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: with Larry all the time.

664
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: And then Larry's girl came out and she was like,

665
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: super super bad.

666
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Way out of our league.

667
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Way, yeah, way, she's a woman, not a girl. She's

668
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: a woman. She's absolutely just breathtaking. But she stood at

669
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: the side of the stage and we were standing behind her,

670
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: and whatever her dress she had on. You when the

671
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: lights came on, you see, everything's like, oh, we're just crying.

672
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: So we just like he just really well. Roger used

673
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: to say a lot of stuff to us, like, you

674
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: go to those white people working for your you think

675
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: Wonder Brothers is two niggas from over on we work

676
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: for the same people. Fuck out here with that ship.

677
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: But he would say all that stuff, like he would

678
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: always say that stuff. Then he went up to Prince

679
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: one day. We were walking Prince walking the stage and

680
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: he said, you know, we have the same name. Roger

681
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: because a lot of people don't believe Prince's name is Prince.

682
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: It looks like he's named himself that, but that ain't

683
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: his name, and that's his real name. So Princess looks

684
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: at him crazy and keeps walking like not even says anything.

685
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: So they just really kind of didn't didn't like us,

686
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: and so we would always be messing with Larry. And

687
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: so Larry, Morris and Jerome tell you that's told yes,

688
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: and they'll verify. But Larry said, I want to talk

689
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: to y'all. We went to the dressing room. It was me, Morris, Jerome,

690
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: we will go to his dressing room with him, and

691
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: he said, pull out a gun. He said, you.

692
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 6: Motherfucker, you know what this is. So I'm forty two years.

693
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: Old, motherfucker, and I'm behind. I'm the last one in

694
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: the thing.

695
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 3: I might get the fuck.

696
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 6: That's how ignorant. I was, like, get the fuck out

697
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 6: of here with that ship and.

698
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: Laughed and they were still there listening to him. But

699
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: Morrison tell you, but he pulled the car. He said,

700
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you. We like three fools

701
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: went in there, like the three stooges, and.

702
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 6: So you know what this is you know what man

703
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 6: forty two years old?

704
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: So was it just that you guys were prince, No,

705
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: we were just.

706
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what he said, say Tony, you had

707
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: a bunch of hair shooting out of his nose and.

708
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: Just disrespectful.

709
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: No, but he would say they would say a lot

710
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: of stuff to us, and then we would throw bullets back.

711
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: And then he didn't. He just didn't like that. And

712
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: then I think the last straw and it's that's your girl.

713
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: Oh man, she bad, And it was something we didn't say.

714
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: We didn't get more disrespectful than that, which was disrespectful,

715
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: but we didn't. We just oh, that's your oh man,

716
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: she bad. And then I think I said something stupid

717
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: like oh yeah, man, when the lights come on, I

718
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: really like her. And he's like, yeah, I need to

719
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: hollow chut you know, do that finger? Yeah, I need

720
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: to hollow chiut?

721
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 11: Right?

722
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Can you say?

723
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: Can I talk to y'all for me?

724
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: You just you thinking? You on tour now? And I

725
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: always telling I'm always telling the Cats and D's band,

726
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: the young Dudes. It's like, don't play with nobody, and

727
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: he said, you'll be casting guy shot on stage performing

728
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: It's like keep on messing with these these women. Man,

729
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, keep on. But I remember that Larry. Can

730
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: I talk to y'all for a few minutes on normal ship,

731
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: you know, because he was a really tall dude.

732
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

733
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: He was older than everybody. He's talk to y'all brothers

734
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: a minute, and followed him in his dressing room.

735
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 10: Yeah.

736
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Man, I pulled out a nickel plated with a pearl,

737
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: handling ooh.

738
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 6: About forty two years old.

739
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: You think I'm mother fucker to play with And I'm

740
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 2: just ignorant. I'm just young. You know, when you're young

741
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: and you ain't scared, and you in the streets and

742
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: you got a gun at eight or nine of them

743
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: to you to get the fuck out with that punk ass.

744
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: And I swear to God and just to this. And

745
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: then when so when I got woke up and said

746
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: he shot, you know, Roger got shot, I was like,

747
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: he's probably about Larry. And I was in la at

748
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: Tommy Jenkins cameo and woke me up and told me that,

749
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: and I said that sais probably by Larry and went

750
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: to sleep. And it was like I knew that ship I.

751
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: Was supposed to be in dating that weekend when that happened.

752
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 5: But really I have more questions. Speaking of Young and Ignorant,

753
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: can you tell us about Old and Ignorant? The song

754
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: that became.

755
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a song that Morris did and uh we

756
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: we we were. It was one of the during that

757
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: period when Prince was like, yeah, yeah, you can recorded.

758
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: The whole wasn't shipped there so it ain't no reverb

759
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: and you know, everything just dry date and speakers and

760
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: so it was one of the songs that Morrison I cut.

761
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: But I did this thing on where I'm going to

762
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: where the beatings like boot boot instead of it like

763
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: Prince would always go, do do do.

764
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: Do do do do do do do.

765
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: He just thought that was like the most genius thing.

766
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: He was playing the baseline in the studio and boom

767
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: ball and he just kept going while he's recording it

768
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: where the sunset sound. But we brought out that two

769
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: inch I mean a half inch, which I still have

770
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: the two track tape of that, and that's what that's

771
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: why ice Cream Hustle came from this song that we

772
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: did call Old and Ignorant, But we would we cut

773
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: about we.

774
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: Are young and we are funky, we are young, we

775
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: are they did that in rehearsals.

776
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, you craft that.

777
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm playing all that ship on there. He he

778
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: uh was he was playing. I came up with that baseline.

779
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: All that was that tracked in the warehouse. No sunset sound.

780
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: We did that sunset So because.

781
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I can hear at the towards the end of ice Cream,

782
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: I just hear so much.

783
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: No a sunset time.

784
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: But even with you guys tracking in the studio, I

785
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: can hear like feet rattling papers.

786
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: On the like, because Prince used to take the forty

787
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: seven and pointed, you know, he would use it properly,

788
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: like I never use it that way because of you

789
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: could hear him. He always never worked with an engineer.

790
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: He always punched himself in and out every vocal you

791
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: ever heard. Like when I was telling D'Angelo that, I

792
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: was like, man, pick a song, pick a song, and

793
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: this is just to pick a song. He go controversy, wrote, recorded, written,

794
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: all finished, mixed one day, everything right, recorded, mixed, finished,

795
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: one day. You know, he never spent more than one day.

796
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: It was done. We would go out to the club,

797
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: I think many of the club clothes at one and

798
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: we go back out to the crib and I'd go

799
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: to sleep on the couch and he walk up at

800
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: almost like clockwork, two thirty the next day, like nothing happened,

801
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: like just after being out all night?

802
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: Were you were you impressed with what he was playing you?

803
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: Or was it weird?

804
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: Like if he's playing you, like if he's coming up,

805
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: like here's a song called do Me Baby and you're

806
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: listening all seven minutes, like is it weird you guys

807
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: listening to this or is it I.

808
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Didn't listen to songs like that? They I didn't. I

809
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: felt weird listening to song like say a dude saying

810
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: like that, That's what I'm saying, Like, no, no, I didn't.

811
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: I didn't. I listened to song like he came. I

812
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: remember physically we went out club clothes. We came home

813
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: and I was like at this sectional thing in the

814
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: in the in the living room because he had this

815
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: gas fireplace that I hated it because you'd be freezing.

816
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Then you turn that shit on, now you're a thousand degrees,

817
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: then you turn it off night cold. So he we down,

818
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: came up with the Lets's Pretend were married song finished

819
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: and in the cap, but Morris went down first. He said,

820
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: Marris come here this, and Morris went down there and

821
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: he's like, doom do that's and Morse much we're the

822
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: hand club said, you know Morrison, you know hand clups.

823
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, get train music. And then he comes

824
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: out and wakes me up and does Jess so you

825
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: come here this And I was like, oh, yeah, that's nice,

826
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: that's cool. I like that because I because I was

827
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: there when the Darling. I was there for when we

828
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: did all that purple and stuff. But it was like

829
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: I went upstairs and Darling Nikki was done, and then

830
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: he went down. I went upstairs and went to sleep

831
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: for twenty minutes, and he would go wakes me up

832
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: and go cause I'm here this and I don't know

833
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: how he did that, but you know that double bass.

834
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Then he's on the toms. It's a real drum set,

835
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: but he's on the I don't know how he did that,

836
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: but I was just amazed. But I'm like he knew that.

837
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: I would just be like fucked up behind that. I'm like,

838
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: how did you do it? Because he just had a

839
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: little drum set out in the patio ors and.

840
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 3: Like even you were still impressed.

841
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but I but I never like I'm singing on

842
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, you know when you go Dan the

843
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: basic wan on them, I'm playing that, but he ain't.

844
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: I ain't credited. And then on the end of the song,

845
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: Jill Jones to tell you it's me, Jill Jones and

846
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: prints on one mic and we're just going PD and

847
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: clapping and singing all that shit, and I ain't credited.

848
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm on a lot of shit like that. And I

849
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: was like, the one time I was so happy because

850
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: when nineteen ninety came, he had the depressing of it

851
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: and the you know, the for the twelve inch or something,

852
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: and it said I was but you understand, man, y'all laughing.

853
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: But that ship I was in First Avenue and he's

854
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: playing it and I'm like, yeah, and I see the

855
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 2: thing and I'm like, finally credited me and that ship

856
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: wasn't me, it was Jill Jones. And I was just like,

857
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: once again, I was just heartbroken. Be I was like

858
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: totally crack, like, you know, but you feel that's how

859
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: you feel. You don't feel like fucking you feel like

860
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: really really.

861
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 10: You know that feeling.

862
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: Really, but really that's how you felt. And so that's

863
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: why I so then I stopped like we were jammed

864
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: and we would do that that ship right there right.

865
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: So then I came up on the album as a

866
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: song and I was like, wow, and I'm not cy

867
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: so I stopped after that. I didn't just I was done.

868
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Was done?

869
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: Was that? How did you get bella Saint mark?

870
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: Because that was because I played a fort I played

871
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: as something I did on the four track or a

872
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: track around the same thing out of the jungle of

873
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: thing with the ah track, So I'm going and that's

874
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: one of the main things I saw and I had

875
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: played him that a few days before and then he

876
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 2: I heard that song and I was like, dude, really

877
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: and he was like, what what tell me? And I

878
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: was like, I just can't explain it. When you in

879
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 2: that space and you can't really tell him. You can't

880
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: really tell him because you feel like a punk if

881
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: you tell him, I can't explain it. I can explain

882
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: it to today. I can go, hey man, that's my

883
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: but put my name in.

884
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: Greg filling Games was talking talking to.

885
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: I said, if I got to tell you fuck you know,

886
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. Because he walked into the

887
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: where we rehearsing, because where we rehearsed. He had bought

888
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: this building, and we when you walked in the front door,

889
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: the time was there. Then you walked through this door,

890
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: and then his band was We would yeah, we would play.

891
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: We would rehearse all day first and then when he finished,

892
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: we finished, then his band would be coming in.

893
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 9: But didn't don't you think he knew that you would

894
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 9: never really say anything.

895
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: He just to do weird shit like that, like he'd see.

896
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 10: Me with he ain't gonna check me on it.

897
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: So no, he I don't know if he really just

898
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: you know, sublimely didn't know. But I would write some

899
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: stuff that was sticking to your craw because that whole

900
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: jungle of that h trac thing you see, that's all there.

901
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: It's actually funkier to me, but it's all there. It

902
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 2: wasn't like, oh did he really do? It's all there.

903
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: And so when I walk in with just like with

904
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: the time when we did, I walked in with those

905
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: songs on two inch, I already finished those.

906
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: Nothing.

907
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: I walked in with that ship finished. And so the

908
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: same thing with Blondie, I walked in with those finished.

909
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: Nobody else is on those songs. I didn't walk in

910
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: the loose words. I walked in with a two inch

911
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: tape with those here.

912
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: It is, Hey, go ahead, I know.

913
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: What sweet what you gonna say?

914
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: Baby?

915
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: Let that girl get it out there around.

916
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 10: Just gonna say this, Like I heard a small rumor

917
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 10: in the mirror.

918
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 8: I didn't even ask you about this, but I heard

919
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 8: there's a small rumor that like d'angelo's making music again.

920
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: If it's true, no, trust me, if you, Amir, can

921
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: tell you more about it.

922
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 10: I didn't even ask what he's.

923
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: Saiding on fifty or sixty things to make you never

924
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: want to play music again. You don't even understand.

925
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 10: Are you involved in anything that he's sitting on because.

926
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, I'm on on some stuff, but it's

927
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: mostly but he's the one that's on everything. Oh yeah,

928
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: he played me you know the song he did for

929
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: Lauren Hill?

930
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 6: He played this ship for me.

931
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: I had to leave. We were what's the one Henson?

932
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: And he said, I did this for Lauren?

933
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 9: Here is that what was supposed to be for Voodoo?

934
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 9: That that she never did?

935
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: No, that was just he and it's it's it's done.

936
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: It's you don't understand, it's the horns, it's it's you know,

937
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: he he. I can't even put in a where he's

938
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: got to me and I ain't talking about five or ten.

939
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: No, we talking like fifty at least. Just he's the

940
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: same way as we have, like we're up to two

941
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: hundred songs. But you just got to stop and be

942
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: like here.

943
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 8: But when you tell him stories about Prince making songs

944
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 8: in twenty minutes and stuff like.

945
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: That, why I was telling him that because I because

946
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: the day, because I don't get that going in and

947
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: you know, like Fleetwood Mac would go they made great albums,

948
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: but they would be in there for a year, and I'm.

949
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: Like that forever.

950
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I didn't come from that.

951
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 2: We coming in whatever you got, get, churn it till

952
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: it you burn it, don't go in there. And I'm

953
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: gonna go to sleep now forget you ain't thinking about

954
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: none of that. I'm still like that.

955
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Wait, I swear you guys, this is my last question.

956
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: Then I'll stop it. Can you please explain the last

957
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: thirty seconds I don't want to He's going to know

958
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: the answer to this. Yes, I feel like you do.

959
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: The last thirty seconds of I don't want to leave you,

960
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: which is just abruptly good, weird edit and to.

961
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: A jam in you can play it please, yeah.

962
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: Because I don't. I didn't know when Mark played that

963
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: not long for me. I didn't even remember that even

964
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: being on the record.

965
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so basically, I don't want to think the last

966
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: you want me to pull it up because I'm playing

967
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I got that, So basically, here we go.

968
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: I remember that that was That was I think that

969
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: was from a version of this song makeup. You know,

970
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: the song makeup, yeah, smoking. It was like there was

971
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: different versions of that because there there's a before the

972
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: time had a deal. There was a you you know

973
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 2: about the what was it called was Jamie Susan exactly.

974
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: So that's part of the stuff that I evaluated and

975
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: remastered and all that stuff, all of their stuff is

976
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: in there, and there was an actual deal in place

977
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: for that. There was a deal in place for that.

978
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: But that's Jamie's singing all that stuff. I can breathe,

979
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: But that was a part of the It was part

980
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: of because there was a different That's that's what I'm

981
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: telling you. That some of the stuff that's in there,

982
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: it's like it's got the Vanity six stuff, but Princes

983
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: singing it. Oh god, it's got It's like there's a

984
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: whole different version of makeup. And but what blew my

985
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: mind really was a was the the Prince album the

986
00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Wanna Be Your Lover? Why? Why all this shit in

987
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: demo mode? But he and the vocals ain't really the

988
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: real vocal yet. So he's on. I ain't got no money,

989
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: but he can tell it. He's figuring out how he's on.

990
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you for anybody that's in the music

991
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: and to hear how he's putting this shit together. To me,

992
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, priceless. I don't I don't want it to

993
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: go to some collector that got the actual cassette, because

994
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, he writes on all the stuff, because I

995
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: have a ton of stuff. I actually was listening. I

996
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: was because I'm moving in the process of moving to

997
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, so I was opening up a box and

998
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: it's got these cassettes. You know, when the answer machine

999
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: had cassetts and if you and if they came on

1000
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: and you picked up the phone, a lot of times

1001
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: they depending on all your ship. So there's conversations with something.

1002
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: He's like, man, uh, come out to the thing man

1003
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: that you know, come out to the house man, and

1004
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, why man, it's like one hundred and forty

1005
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: degrees below zero nuts and you hear these conversations to us.

1006
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: He's like, bad, just come on out. And you always

1007
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: you heard that tape where we're planning to walk and

1008
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: rehearsal and it's like, really, I mean we kicking it

1009
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: boom boom the Prince and I relationship. All of a

1010
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: sudden the song stops. Rehearsal. You hear Prince Jesse, you

1011
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: should and you can't. I've tried everything to see what

1012
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but you hear Boris, you hear Mars, You

1013
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 2: hear me go, Man, did you know what I'm saying?

1014
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: You hear me go? Get the fuck fucking doing that?

1015
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: You hear Brsel you're laughing, And it's like, that's our relationship.

1016
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, and I tried everything to have

1017
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: the mastering to figure out what he said to me

1018
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: what was because it's like, bat, we got you need

1019
00:50:45,920 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: to dance more. Right, We're kicking that ship, is won't you.

1020
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 11: Dad?

1021
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: Thing right, We're kicking that you And all of a

1022
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: sudden it's just abruptly Jesse because he's in He's over

1023
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: here and you, Jesse, you need to.

1024
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: And you hear me.

1025
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: It's just so typical because then you would think I

1026
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: was like here and you have it right, Mark, you

1027
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: have it.

1028
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: Fucking ship go up about four or five octors.

1029
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: Ain't doing that.

1030
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 6: You're more like these two motherfuckers.

1031
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: You just laughing. And we were just always like, but

1032
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I'm not Jesse, what the okay?

1033
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 3: Have we exhausted all our questions? I have one last question.

1034
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 5: Did the bill okay? You'll ask question Bill. This is

1035
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 5: a quick yes or no answer. The song jungle Love

1036
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: was it originally called Dreamer?

1037
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: No okay? The Jungle Love was written, the music was

1038
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: written for I said that in the demo when I

1039
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 2: posted it's written for Lenny Williams. Wait what the music?

1040
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: I did the music for Lenny Williams.

1041
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, Lenny Williams.

1042
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: Lenny was going to do it.

1043
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: What's going to do with that?

1044
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: And that's why I said it in the in the

1045
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: thing and then I said it, and then when I

1046
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 2: posted to demo and then Lenny say, hey, Jesse, what's

1047
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: up man? Because On was working with Lenny and that's

1048
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: who hooked that up. And that's how I wrote that

1049
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: for him and before, but before I played it for him,

1050
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's in these acting classes with

1051
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: ballet shoes and ship. Get this feeling vulnerable right now.

1052
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: But the reason why they make you really went to

1053
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: ballet class. The reason I was like, why am I

1054
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: in ballet and doing all this ship with leotard on?

1055
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: Some pins? Yeah, but not the kind that you would

1056
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: see like that, like you know, not the you know

1057
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: but you got but you got your no, but you

1058
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: got regular pain. You got them pants somewhere you got

1059
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: you got those. They're made out of some kind, but

1060
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: they're not that clingy type. But you got to have

1061
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: uh lit when you're doing that ship, because otherwise you

1062
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: will crush your franks and beings.

1063
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: That's why.

1064
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: That's why when you see a ballet dance, you go,

1065
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: why does this dude got a cup on? Who's going

1066
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: to tackle him? Because you got because ballet was really

1067
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: written for women and and and design for women. So

1068
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: you got to take all of your ship and go

1069
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: up here like it doesn't exist. So you can because

1070
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: I always wondered why somebody's dude playing football after hours

1071
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: or something? You got a cup on? So that wasn't

1072
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: what the ballet Whenever you do acting for real and

1073
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: you do true acting, what the ballet is for Like,

1074
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: they never said anything to you. Just okay, ballet class.

1075
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, seen me leaving this month, but you're

1076
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: in ballet class. But what it is, they sheot, They

1077
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: teach a routine, and they teach a whole entire movement,

1078
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: all the way to the end. And what they what

1079
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: it's doing is doing memory for lines. Okay, So if

1080
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: you can remember that whole routine and you know, and

1081
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: they and ballets all in it, one, two, four and

1082
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: all that crazy ship. But just if you can remember

1083
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 2: that whole routine from the beginning, all the way this movement,

1084
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: all the way to the end and around and back

1085
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: again somewhere else, then it helps you remember your lines.

1086
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: So develops memory, muscle memory, they call it.

1087
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: I never knew that.

1088
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 10: I didn't know that, Ingrid, did you have to do

1089
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 10: that too?

1090
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: For that was before she wasn't.

1091
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 10: No, I knew. I just figured it was an acting period.

1092
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: We had to do that. The whole summer was acting

1093
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: and ballet. Acting in ballet, because.

1094
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: Even if you didn't have lines in the film, you

1095
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: still want to.

1096
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: Be in there doing some routine. That crazy ass in

1097
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: there too. Yeah, yeah, everybody was in.

1098
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: Did you have any lines that were cut from the film,

1099
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 5: because I know Jellybean have to scene where him and

1100
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 5: the kid get in a fight.

1101
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: There was a lot of when you do a movie,

1102
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: they they go to LA and they have these special screenings.

1103
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: Because I remember editing being out there editing, uh and

1104
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: talking to Clint Eastwood and he was there screening the Rookie.

1105
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: And so that's why a lot of Purple Rain was

1106
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: reshot because there's a part scene in Purple Range editing,

1107
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: and there were he prince goes up the mors and

1108
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: slaps the spit out of his mouth. But when all

1109
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: this shit what happened. There's a lot of things in

1110
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: Purple Range that when the testing audience watch is supposed

1111
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: to be like, oh my god, they were Karyan. You

1112
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: know black folks, man, you know black folks. They ain't

1113
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: gonna sit there. They're gonna beat that ship, get the

1114
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: and so a lot of scenes there were supposed to

1115
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: be like, oh man, he wentn't slapped. They had to

1116
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: take that ship out because it was like it's like

1117
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart slap up in the rock. It's like, dude,

1118
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: we not ain't believable, and that's why there's so much.

1119
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: There's so much. Okay, okay, okay, No, you know, I'm

1120
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: so grateful about everything in my career. I'm so grateful

1121
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: about all the ignorant shit we did. There was no

1122
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: self there was no cell phone cameras because we used

1123
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: to do the time like we would be on stage.

1124
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: This is true.

1125
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Ship was on stage and and this is the nineteen

1126
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: ninety nine tour. So the time we'd go up there

1127
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: and play and then dudes will be there with their

1128
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: girls and Ship and the girl would be like you know, yeah, yeah,

1129
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: maybe in front of me and I. One time I

1130
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: turned my back and Jerome was on this platform with

1131
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: Monty and Jerome would be up on the platform doing

1132
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: that clap thing, and Jerome was and as I'm turned

1133
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 2: facing my back to artist, Jerome goes and I turned

1134
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: like what you know, like you're looking at somebody face

1135
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: and you're like what what wasn't you turn on nothing?

1136
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Some As you watch the video, dude took a magnum.

1137
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: It was bad before when they would let people bring

1138
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: shit in the Constabody took a magnum bottle and threw

1139
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: it at me. What and it went and it missed me,

1140
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: but it slid under the Rise of Jerome was on.

1141
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: So but let me how ignorant we were. Let me

1142
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: tell you ignorant we were. We would come off of stage,

1143
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: go put on, go change, come out and start pointing,

1144
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: get that motherfucker and tell you get his punk ass

1145
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: to it, and the dudes would come backstage. It would

1146
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: be me and Jerome, Yeah, bring that ship back here,

1147
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: and the guy would be talking mad that. The dudes

1148
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: would be talking mad shit to me, he's scaring you, motherfucker.

1149
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: But they didn't know Terry was back there with no

1150
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: shirt on, some church shoes, church pants. Yeah, bring them motherfuckers.

1151
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: They would one guy start crying. And we were so

1152
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: ignorant that we would go back out after turning it out.

1153
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: Get this motherfucker, Yeah you want to throw bring your

1154
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: punkt and they would be talking shit because would just

1155
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: be me a Jerome walking them back and it would

1156
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: be everybody back there way, Yeah, bring the motherfuckers. And

1157
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: and and when we were on that.

1158
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 6: Were like bring people are going lok is the time.

1159
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: Imagine if there was camera phones back then man, I'm

1160
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: so glad there was none of that ship existed video cameras.

1161
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 10: Because I'm I want to see it.

1162
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: This is going to be the final question, because I'm

1163
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna ask the question that like wraps up the thing.

1164
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 9: Are you because I want to you know, we got

1165
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 9: three hours?

1166
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, even Jimmy.

1167
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 10: Jam after he didn't put you know, put the record out.

1168
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 8: Okay, that's fine after Freedy Bridge, but that's fine. I

1169
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 8: just all right, he put on after Graffiti Bridge and

1170
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 8: was like her album never.

1171
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 9: Didn't come out.

1172
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: Because you can't leave.

1173
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 10: I'm an electra.

1174
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was dollars and nobody still cares spent a

1175
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: million dollars.

1176
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, and then that's my question.

1177
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 9: So as you as we sit here.

1178
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: Were you on the set when I was had to

1179
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: grab him and all that stuff? And were you in

1180
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: the set when something happened and everybody clear set and

1181
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: Prince was sitting on the floor and they made everybody

1182
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: clear the set. Were you in the set when that happened?

1183
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: What happened, I had to grab him and like man

1184
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: handle him or something, and I didn't wasn't you know,

1185
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't really doing that much. But I don't know

1186
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: what happened. And he sat on the floor and everybody

1187
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: and then they were like every Craig Rice, everybody cleared.

1188
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: Everybody cleared the rice, everybody clear the room. Everybody. They

1189
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: made us. I'm thinking something we part of this ship came. Oh,

1190
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm like really, but I thought something bad because no, no,

1191
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: he There was a lot of times. But yeah, I

1192
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: to remember, I'm talking about doing that my hair as

1193
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: long as hell, but I'm talking about doing that when

1194
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: I go out because it's too much work.

1195
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, well I know.

1196
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why.

1197
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm like going, No, I'm gonna get there's a place

1198
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: in la that does it, because I want my hair

1199
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: blonde or red or whatever I wanted to be. I

1200
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: don't want it to do that to my own hair,

1201
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be somewhere in the middle

1202
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: of this place is in Europe. I mean, it's up

1203
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: to date now. But if you went into London and

1204
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: Paris and especially Paris and all that stuff like in

1205
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: the eighties and with no black hair, not ship nowhere,

1206
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you ain't. Still ain't a lot of places. And yeah,

1207
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: and I remember going and trying to find that shit

1208
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: was at a specialty like perfume store. And it was

1209
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: that old remember that mom type ship? Remember Mom? Y'all

1210
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: don't remember Mom. That ship was a yeah. Yeah, it

1211
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: was that kind of ship. And it was like, yeah,

1212
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah Mom, like yeah, I'm Mom all right?

1213
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, I get it with the because

1214
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: he had what he was going from. I don't know

1215
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: his actual hair was always long, but he made it

1216
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: longer for the movie or something, but.

1217
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 10: It was perfect. It was late.

1218
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, who gives a ship? I mean, I'm like, that's

1219
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to when you start.

1220
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 10: Nobody gives a shit.

1221
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 8: But that whole sentence that you said about putting the

1222
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 8: extra stuff in your hair and dying and stuff like that.

1223
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: That right on the floor. But my hair can't take

1224
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: it to be right on the floor.

1225
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 10: No, I get it.

1226
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: I should have fallen out so faced so fast it

1227
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: ain't even funny. Man. So now I don't I'm putting

1228
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: some other ship in my hair. So I ain't even

1229
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: got a comb it. I just wanted, can y'all make

1230
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: it where I can just wake up and it still

1231
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: looks cool?

1232
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: That ship.

1233
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: That's what I am not lying, dude. I never seen

1234
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: dude's hair messed up.

1235
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, and especially when he went through the fingerway.

1236
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: No, no, I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about

1237
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: three of the nineteen ninety nine Purple Rank perfectly quaffed.

1238
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: Fucker will walk out.

1239
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: Of the bedroom and I just say you, I hate you.

1240
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: He would watch his ship would be I was like,

1241
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: how do you are you sleeping?

1242
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 8: Like what do you which makes me think about Purple

1243
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 8: Ringin and Graffiti Bridge and like, was there ever scenes

1244
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 8: where the woman got to put her hair?

1245
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: No, but trust me as a friend, as we were

1246
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: just like we never washed our hair. That's why hair

1247
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: looks so good. You don't know, No, it's the hair

1248
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: ain't funky, but you know, black hair, when you wash it,

1249
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: it takes a long time to get brinks back to it,

1250
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: like when it was looking real cool. Devil should take weeks.

1251
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: So we like so Prince was would have this really

1252
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: back when I really skinny, curling iron and he would

1253
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: be for hours be talking to him. Yeah, man, we

1254
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: all did. We didn't never have a hairdresser on us.

1255
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 9: You just I mean, those sons don't really know.

1256
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: But we got we got long ass hair. We out

1257
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: there trying to be pretty and ship too. We don't

1258
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: care about what dudes think we did. I always tell

1259
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: dudes all the time. Who was I talking to? I

1260
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: think I was in was Maxwell? I was like, you

1261
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: care about what the dude thinks? Dudes don't buy ship

1262
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: women the one to go buy it. Women to go.

1263
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: Dudes be his dudes. Oh man, you got that copy.

1264
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 2: That's what dude women. I want the picture. I want

1265
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: to read all the shit in it. I wanted to.

1266
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm like Dan, and I'm not thinking about what No, dude,

1267
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 2: thanks Wait, I forgot the most important question that we

1268
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: would have killed ourselves for asking for not.

1269
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: Asking you, we didn't mention we're pink at all? And

1270
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: there were how many suits pink suits? How many pink

1271
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: suits did you own?

1272
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: And like, no that it's a story behind it though,

1273
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: Jamie shut. We were rehearsing on a Sunday the time,

1274
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: and Jamie Hue came out with Uh. She met us

1275
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: out with Prince because Andre's my own sister up until

1276
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: UH from the nineteen ninety nine tour, and she made

1277
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: all of the clothes Andre's older sister or older sister, Sylvia,

1278
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: Sylvia Anderson. She made all our clothes and so the

1279
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: day that they brought out the swatches, to look at

1280
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: the swatches, and so if you've ever seen any video

1281
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: of the time, we used to call it the Shrek light.

1282
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: We used to call it because what we used to

1283
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: call it the Hulk because it wasn't no Shrek then.

1284
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: But well, he's knew when we was kicking ass because

1285
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: that green all the lights will go off and to

1286
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: just be this green light and motherfuckers be looking like Martians, right,

1287
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: you think it's just tossing now. So if you watch

1288
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: videos from the very first tour, you never see me

1289
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: because I was like, I'm cool. I got around black little.

1290
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 2: I know, my black ass wasn't saying either. So when

1291
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: they brought into swatches, uh, they're Jamie showing us his

1292
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: watches and it's like this real cool swatch of this

1293
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 2: fusia mohair, you know it like changes colors. And I said, Prince,

1294
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: you should wear that, and he, honestly the stack of bibles,

1295
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: he said, oh man, I wouldn't wear that. People already

1296
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: say enough stuff about me, And I said, fuck that,

1297
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: I'll wear it. And that's how that came to be,

1298
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: and that's how I wore it. And then it worked

1299
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: out perfectly because no matter how much dark he put

1300
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 2: me in, you saw my ass. You saw my ass

1301
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: in the dark. When I walked on stage in the dark,

1302
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: you could hear him. On the day, I was like, yeah,

1303
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: you see, mom, you can't put the light out on

1304
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: my black ass. Now I got on this pink white

1305
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 2: and a white shirt. Yeah, yeah, before I didn't consider

1306
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he really beat the shit out of

1307
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: our assets on the first tour because we didn't know

1308
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: anything yet. We was like getting he was you know,

1309
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: he was on the top of the speaker doing all

1310
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: of that and jacking off the guitar and this and

1311
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: that and that, and we were just like getting our

1312
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: ass handed to us. You know, anybody only knew a

1313
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: couple of songs on the record. And second tour, shit

1314
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: fuckers came out clean, ready, came out with some step

1315
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: and had it hard, and so then he was like

1316
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: and it was weird. And then we saw the tide

1317
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: turn where I was telling Inger today how we would

1318
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: outsell him on merchandise because a dude ain't gonna wear

1319
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: no shirt I belonged to Prince, you know, ain't gonna

1320
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, unless he you know, different and wanted to

1321
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: belong to prints. But most dudes ain't gonna wear that.

1322
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: But our shit said, ain't nobody bad like me? I'm

1323
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: so cool, and so so we would. Midway through the

1324
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine too, we'd always sold over a million

1325
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: dollars at merchandise because I should appeal to both men

1326
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: and women.

1327
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: Well how did you up keep it?

1328
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: Though?

1329
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: Because the thing is is that the pink thing? I mean, yeah,

1330
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: because you do a show, you're sweaty as hell. I

1331
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: don't know how many.

1332
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I don't for some reason, on sweat

1333
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: like that.

1334
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: He's too cool.

1335
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: I never I never have.

1336
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't drinks.

1337
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeahs D sweats more than D sweats before

1338
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: he even starts the seriously as an athlete, because he

1339
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: just I mean, I never seen anybody sweat like that.

1340
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, but no, I know what you

1341
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: say that you have to take care of it every night. Yes,

1342
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: on the time tour because you got it. But you

1343
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 2: gotta watch the beginning of the tour if you see

1344
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: the things, because I got cuffs and everything that's you know,

1345
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: before we had professional clothing makers, like the clothing makers

1346
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: that take the material throw it in a vat of

1347
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: water pre shrinking and all that didn't make the clothes.

1348
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 2: But see, we didn't have that. We just had somebody's

1349
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: sister making us some stuff. And she wasn't didn't know

1350
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: all about that. Then, like these people that may close,

1351
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: you can be completely wet, you won't see it. You

1352
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: like the cat that made all the clothes for Purple

1353
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: Raine and stuff. He grew up in the same we

1354
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: were from the same hometown Rock Louis. Lewis Wells for

1355
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: Louis and Vaughan that made all the ship for Purple

1356
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: Rain and num was princes those was Lewis Wells patterns

1357
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: Prince War to the end of his life. That's all

1358
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: Lewis Wells. He designed and cut all that ship. But

1359
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: they knew their ship like they would know. They have

1360
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: them the wash, the silk, and so you know how

1361
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: when you sweat you won't see it. I don't They're

1362
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: just magicians that the ship or something like how your

1363
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: counts be on stage three four? Hey, what y'all got

1364
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: invisible counts? And breaking in the bad ship. Don't tell

1365
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: nobody no keys doing this ship all. Now, I'm like

1366
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: y'all don't breaking the bad ship. Don't even you ain't

1367
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: gonna okay, yeah, job I went.

1368
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 3: That was the key.

1369
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: They was killing ship. And y'all got invisible keys like

1370
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: the count Okay, got you your classics are flat, We

1371
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: went to your Jesse keys. Those were more I wrote

1372
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: those for Morris Case. I can't sing you. But if

1373
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: you look at the very first videos, my pants are nice, cool,

1374
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: got the pleats, got cuffs. But look as a tour,

1375
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: going up is higher, not a cuff is gone, is

1376
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 2: shrinking higher. And yeah, that's that. So that was one suit.

1377
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: But when I did the first album, then there was

1378
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 2: like three or four of those.

1379
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: But I would have.

1380
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: Like twelve shoes, and then I would always have my

1381
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: door open to my room and so girls would come

1382
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 2: in the room, my door would try and be wide open,

1383
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: like and no, they just would be chilling, but they

1384
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: were ninja's. I would go on tour like twelve pair

1385
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: of white boots, right, come home with three because they

1386
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: were taking a ship.

1387
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 6: How do you I just saw you, yeah, you know,

1388
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 6: and you're like, how did you do that?

1389
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1390
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 2: But once again going back to you know, the camera

1391
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: phone thing, it's like scary to do a self with

1392
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 2: somebody because even now, because the era come from, if

1393
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: somebody got a selfie with you, you were somewhere selfie

1394
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: with them, and it's like meaning somebody can you know,

1395
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: like say, if you go to court somebody said he

1396
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 2: did this to me, I don't even know her. Why

1397
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: y'all on this like that while y'all you know, dollars

1398
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 2: just scares me. I he never went through that. But

1399
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm watched enough enough crime shows, like when Patrisa O'Neil

1400
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: said he he would go buy a stick or com

1401
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 2: and go okay, okay, so he won't be because because

1402
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm lazy, you don't want to throw the pepsicn the

1403
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 2: PEPs can't rapist and ship.

1404
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 6: I'm like you, just you.

1405
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: I love him to death so much. I miss him.

1406
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: So he Jesus a great guy. Absolutely. That's why when

1407
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 2: I think it's Faison Love said that Dave Chappelle is

1408
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: and funny, and I'm like, he might not be funny

1409
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 2: if you're not intellectual. Dave Chappelle is genius. Dave Chappelle

1410
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: is from the George Carlin. He's from that even you know,

1411
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: not to be whatever. But his comedy is very very

1412
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: brilliant Bill Cosby back in the day, and he's Dave

1413
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: has all of that and more. He's like, he's scary Wallace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1414
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: because George Wallace said something that to me. He said,

1415
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: you ever noticed when you move? He say, my wife

1416
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: is darker than me. And he said, we were moving,

1417
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: found a bottle of sun tann locean. We looking at

1418
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: each other like, you know what that type of humor

1419
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: that I you know, And then I saw I men

1420
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: we played Vegas. He would come on after us, and

1421
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: I saw him cut some kids out and everything, and

1422
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 2: he said he was allowing people in the joke in

1423
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: the audience to say some jokes and his kids, the

1424
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 2: little kids to them.

1425
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 12: Saying, yo, mam is so fat that blah blah blah.

1426
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 12: And he said, well, what are you doing down there?

1427
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 12: You have your ass and it so wout.

1428
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 6: Your fat ass.

1429
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 12: Mama, your mama, your mama so ugly. The birds fly

1430
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 12: upside down so you have the ship.

1431
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 11: On it like because.

1432
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 6: Right, I loved George.

1433
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: I fucking loved Georgia, who was all in the memories

1434
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: on the same floor in the dressing room, and that's

1435
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: where I ran into Regina King when she was doing

1436
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: that Southland and she was killing that pixie she had

1437
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: that I was, she was killing that ship. I was like, girl,

1438
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: it's like it's like when I saw Gabrielle Union tonight.

1439
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: I was telling question no, but she.

1440
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 3: Was having a heart attack and she's like she's I was.

1441
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: Wondering, I wonder if she remembers me, because I met

1442
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 2: them all they were like, you know, they're right on

1443
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: that Cus twelve thirteen, and so you're like it was her, Kim,

1444
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 2: Phil's and Janet they were all like best of friends.

1445
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: And so I met her way back then when they

1446
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 2: were the little kids, and they were like, ohs a

1447
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: crush and I was just wondering to know. I was

1448
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 2: like it was like this big and I'm like ah

1449
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: and then I no, no, I.

1450
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: Just her back with Stuarts. But she was looking at

1451
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: me like she's so beautiful.

1452
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. But whenever you how you know, I'm not

1453
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 2: how you know where I'm coming from. Elsa is a

1454
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: beautiful kid, you know, like I say to her, her young,

1455
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: beautiful kid, her too, it's a beautiful kid. And then

1456
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: that means you know that I'm looking at her like

1457
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: that and not as like some perverted.

1458
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 10: Oh you a area too, you know.

1459
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: No, but I'm telling you because I had girls so young,

1460
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: I just good for you daughter. I have enough of them,

1461
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: that's damn sure. I feel like in some way, no, no, no,

1462
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: because I'm they they He'll tell you they're they're they're

1463
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: together girls.

1464
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 8: They're having a daughter means that he needs to learn

1465
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 8: some lessons about his life before he.

1466
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: Had no because I had him so young, I was

1467
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 2: didn't know anything about life when I was a young father,

1468
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: like at fifteen sixteen, married and all that shit. So

1469
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: I had girls early, and so they just you learn

1470
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: a lot of things. Like I hear guys say they

1471
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: might only have one to have a boy and say, oh,

1472
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: you know the best thing for man a it's a son.

1473
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: And that's bullshit because a father and son it's a

1474
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: yin yang. So if the son and mothers like insuperable

1475
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: and and my father is like, the daughter can come in.

1476
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: So I killed eight people, they must have been fucking

1477
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, And and that's a that's an amazing and

1478
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,520
Speaker 2: important relationship.

1479
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: Well we uh initially thought we were just getting an hour.

1480
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 3: And a half. Well y'all got to know and now

1481
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: we have a double episode. So, uh, I'm sorry, Steve.

1482
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm good, I'm good. How many episodes

1483
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: did you do? Doing these two episodes?

1484
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 13: One a nice tour of Electric Lady for the for

1485
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 13: the Sugar Network. But you never asked a question that

1486
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 13: you said was going to wrap up the whole cause

1487
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 13: like you interrupted you so you had some larger you

1488
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 13: had some question that was that was gonna everything up?

1489
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: Well it was.

1490
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: He kind of mentioned his kids, which was based on

1491
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: It's true, I've never I've never been in prison.

1492
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: I've never I've never been a heroin autics. There's so

1493
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: much bullshit out there about me, but no, there's never

1494
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: been in prison, never been a heroin addict, never did drugs,

1495
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: never drank, never did none of that.

1496
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: Ship.

1497
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 2: That's all a bunch of bullshit.

1498
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: Well, my wrap up question was what do you want

1499
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: your legacy to be?

1500
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: Just what James Brown and West Montgomery, you Hendrix, You

1501
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: you leave great music because that should all outlive everybody

1502
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: Like I would get to upset when people say, James,

1503
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: but no, we're all gonna fucking eat it. You just

1504
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 2: hope that you live. You leave something that's a mark

1505
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 2: for your children to get their train, because as songwriters

1506
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: and artists, that is your that is your your land,

1507
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, because think about it how the land thing

1508
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: really works. You pay taxes on it the money you

1509
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: buy it with, and then you pay tax on the

1510
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: rest of your life. This ship that you're leaving them,

1511
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: this music and every that intellectual property is like to me,

1512
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: the real deal ship. So it's just like, even even

1513
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: as tragically as losing uh somebody like like Prince, but

1514
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: at least what that catalog like when pep wan to

1515
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: hear people go, I don't like that, want to help

1516
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: me do that? I'm like, yeah, but if I got

1517
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 2: a catalog, he can't play for three hours and you

1518
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: know the B sides because he got a catalog like

1519
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: it's Lasi brothers can go play a four hour show

1520
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 2: and it's all hits.

1521
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 9: You know, are you making sure yours is protected?

1522
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 8: Because I wonder, in the American idol sense of things,

1523
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 8: even though you.

1524
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 2: Know, I choke somebody to death isn't even about you

1525
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: no more. It's about the It's about your your children

1526
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: and and and so you do make sure. That's why

1527
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: I stopped making records like the verbal record was supposed

1528
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: to be on Universal, was supposed to be on Where's

1529
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: Angie Said label? Angie Stone was on uh J Records.

1530
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 2: You No, it was when she did the baby record

1531
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: that label. It was supposed to be on that label,

1532
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: but they want to it's It wasn't Jay. It was

1533
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: out of like We're Laila Hathaways on.

1534
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 3: That label Concord exactly, and.

1535
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: They wanted to own the masters and ship and all that,

1536
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: and I ain't doing it no more, I said, So

1537
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: I said, anything I do, I'm going to own it

1538
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: from here on out, going back to bear my nekeds own.

1539
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: So that was my first foray into independent. I think

1540
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: I printed one hundred thousand through BMG. They sold them all.

1541
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: And so now I'm on eBay right now watching a

1542
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: copy unopened and it's one hundred and twelve dollars and

1543
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm like me, I ain't paying that for that, but

1544
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: I just want to see how crazy there's even an

1545
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: unopened copy on Amazon for like two hundred and some dollars.

1546
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: But I would admit I had to go buy and

1547
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: I had to pay forty dollars apiece for that shit

1548
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: because I burnt. I sold every copy I made.

1549
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 5: And yeah, I tend to lose records too. Yeah, have

1550
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 5: you ever thought about putting those two albums out digitally?

1551
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 5: Because they're not the the I couldn't find they are.

1552
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 5: I couldn't find Bear my nakeds Home.

1553
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 2: Yeah that's on purpose, but I am it's part of

1554
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: the there's a whole thing that I'm going to do

1555
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 2: that I'm actually that's why I'm moving to Vegas. I'm

1556
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: not moving to Vegas because I'm moving to Vegas because

1557
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: I'm just getting away from everybody and everything and I'm

1558
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: ringing the crib. Nobody's gonna Vegas. No, no, no, but

1559
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: not that I know. I don't know anybody that I'm

1560
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,639
Speaker 2: moving in. No, he lives Miami and things, but I'm moving.

1561
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm moving there. Farmhouse in the middle of nowhere, studio,

1562
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: no furniture, just the gear, the guitars. The studio are bad,

1563
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 2: and a TV. And I have these three records that

1564
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: you don't even know about. He'll tell you that they're

1565
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: all new ship and they're just crazy shit and and

1566
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm having this campaign behind them. And then after those

1567
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 2: are all done in the campaign's moving, then that's when

1568
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: I'll finish the audio book. Because there's so much ship

1569
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: that y'all don't know.

1570
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 6: The ugly shit. It's like he really choked the line.

1571
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 5: When can we expect the first of these three projects

1572
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 5: to come out? The first of the first of the

1573
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 5: three projects. They're all coming out the same time. It's

1574
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 5: gonna be a three tier thing, and it's not it's

1575
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 5: not a kickstarter or something to finance.

1576
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: Everything will be done. It's a pre sale thing because

1577
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: now the way records are now, you know, folks renting

1578
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: music and shit, so you and and and they're negative

1579
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: not gonna be CDs. That's the all antiquated thing. So

1580
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: it's going to be a twenty four bit ninety six

1581
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: k every version and saying then and also the same

1582
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: versions and you know, wax if I the part of

1583
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 2: the campaign if it reaches a certain number most death

1584
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: out of doubt. Yes, So it's got the it's it's

1585
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: three album and it's a three tier thing, but it's

1586
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: more involved in it. It's like each there's gonna be

1587
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: a photo booklet, a colorful lit book booklet that you

1588
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: will have in person and the poster. But the color

1589
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: booklet will detail everything about the records, like what pedals

1590
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: with me playing what I'm doing, what the chords are

1591
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 2: a whole shot like that and I and I'm just

1592
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,520
Speaker 2: trying to decide if I want to do it physically

1593
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 2: or if But I know I'm never making a CD

1594
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 2: again because I can't even listen to Verbal on CD.

1595
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: It sounds if you hear it in the studio on

1596
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 2: you know ninety six twenty you know twenty forbid ninety

1597
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: six K, it's a totally different record. I can't even

1598
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: listen to the CD. It sounds so garbage. And so

1599
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: what is you spend all these tens of thousands of

1600
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 2: dollars that come up with this bad ship and then

1601
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: diither it down to some antiquated bullshit. I'm done. That

1602
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: ain't never happening. Then when people like you know I

1603
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: see people we want the CD way, you know what,

1604
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 2: get an a track while you at that shit too,

1605
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: because I'm not making that, but you will have the

1606
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: ability when you get your card you can burn all

1607
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: you want. But I ain't making that ship no more

1608
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: because I can't hear it. I'm telling you it's terrible sounding.

1609
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: It's like I didn't know it would be that bad.

1610
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: But because Verbal was cut high deaf and I should

1611
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: have put out a high deaf as well as a

1612
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: and I think I'm still going to do a vinyl

1613
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: of it, but I'm just gonna pick certain things and

1614
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: do it on the vinyl.

1615
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: There you go, Well, Sarah Johnson, I thank you very

1616
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: much for your conscience long over there.

1617
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: Thank you guys too for being dreaming so wonderfuhy, I

1618
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: answered all the bad questions.

1619
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 3: You answered everything to Shout out to my uncle Jesse

1620
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: rest in peace.

1621
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's the one you. Oh yeah, I want

1622
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: to think you know how. I want to give a

1623
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: shout out to and and well wishes to his mothers.

1624
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: Mike Mike Garcia. Oh really yes, he's a Baltimore might

1625
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: love to you man. He's always been just really really

1626
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: wonderful and ever you put in the paper regarding all

1627
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: of us, he's just been like really okay, shout out

1628
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: well Deanna, love you baby.

1629
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1630
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 9: She was gonna come and she got tired, so she

1631
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 9: went back to Philly.

1632
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1633
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 8: Now I'm just gonna thank Inger for coming and thank

1634
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 8: you all for bringing it.

1635
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 10: That cheesecake.

1636
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 3: That cheesecake was great.

1637
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to Fanicolot's countertops right now in North Carolina,

1638
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: and uh, there's there's two other members of this team

1639
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: missing today.

1640
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 8: Later, I want to talk to ingri Off, like about

1641
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,839
Speaker 8: what it's like to be a woman in this environment

1642
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 8: and not be able to really talk too much? Or

1643
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 8: can you because I don't know because we didn't get

1644
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 8: to talked about her about.

1645
01:20:56,120 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 5: That questions, But yeah, I mean I can come up.

1646
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 2: With fool year. She's a boss.

1647
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 10: I know she is. That's why I wanted her to

1648
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 10: be able to over.

1649
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 14: How about I come back?

1650
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 10: Okay, where do you live?

1651
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 9: I live in New Hampshire.

1652
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 10: I live a few hours.

1653
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, you come back?

1654
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime now that we know you're here.

1655
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 9: Yeah that I'm still alive.

1656
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 3: Yes we are. I do have a new record coming out,

1657
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 3: you do?

1658
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 10: Yes, I do?

1659
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: You do?

1660
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 9: I'm coming out, should be out by the end of summer, okay.

1661
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 3: And then you have like, what three albums already?

1662
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1663
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 3: Are you calling it? January twenty first?

1664
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 9: It's going to be called Memories of Flying.

1665
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 3: So what was May nineteen, nineteen ninety two.

1666
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 14: It was just a date that we picked that was

1667
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 14: around the time that we were, you know, creating the

1668
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 14: album artwork and stuff. But it was just meant to

1669
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 14: be like a lot of my records are are like journal,

1670
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 14: you know, entries, and that makes sense, you know.

1671
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 3: Okay, all my songs, so it's like journal. We will

1672
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 3: do a proper ingroage.

1673
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: And now that we know you're here, all right, y'all,

1674
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: that that makes for another exciting conclusion. Quest Love sagree

1675
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 1: with Jess Johnson, would also like to think of vez

1676
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: we were stopping them, Drew dropping a lot of duels, uh,

1677
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: the Apple Sugar, Steve and Boston Hill and Laia and

1678
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 1: the rest of the QLs family. And thank you for listening,

1679
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: and we will see you the next episode on the

1680
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 1: next Goverram all right, see you later. Quest Love Supreme

1681
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,599
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1682
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:46,639
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