1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkschen. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin dad, 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: and we're recording this the day after Father's Day. So 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: happy belated Father's Day. I mean we did talk yesterday, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: of course. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Of course, Jeff. And it's your second Father's Day. McKinley 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Hope was born almost two years ago. So what was 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: number two like for you? 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Number two was good. We went to church, which was 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: really nice, and it was so funny because I walked 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: in with my daughter on my arm. Right McKinley, my 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: wife Emily, and I were walking in. We check her 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: into like the childroom. Everybody and their brother, oh, happy 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: father's Day because I'm holding a baby. Right then we 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: walk into the service. Not a single person said a 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: word because you just don't know if that person's a father. 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: And the pastor goes all right, well, you know, as 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: we do, go greet somebody and maybe tell a dad, 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: happy Father's Day. And so we're like turning around and 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm like happy Father's Day to other guys like I 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: don't know if your dad yes, And I'm like, okay, cool, 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Happy Father's Day. And they're like you happy Father's Day. 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: It's a little bit awkward, but yeah, it was really 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: great dad. And then we went out to lunch. We 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: are gluten and dairy free right now, so trying to 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: navigate a menu was exhausting. But my wife is incredible 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: and preps all of our meals, so I think we'll 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: stay at home for most meals at this point. But 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: my father's day was good. I know yours was spent 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: most of the day in the car. 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I yeah, six hundred miles in the car 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: yesterday and I was asked by a stranger at ESPN, 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: are you a father? And then before I could say anything, 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: the person said you must be your grandfather too. Thanks 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: very much for adding that in I appreciate three times. Yes, 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: so all good. Yeah, I had a great Father's Day. 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: And who do we have coming up on Wednesday? Jet, Well, 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: this is big in celebration of Father's Day. We have 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: Cal Ripkin Junior and his son Ryan Ripkin are going 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: to be our guest. 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Now, we had Cal lash year. He was I mean, 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: he's just he's Caripken Jr. I mean, what else can 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: you say about him? We had so many great laughs 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: and to now bring his son in. 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: And his son is a radio show guy, a podcast guy. 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: He's really good on the air. And let's not forget 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: how good a baseball player Ryan Ripkin was. He just 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: didn't play in the big leagues. Let's not forget he 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: could have played college basketball at South Carolina. He is 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: a great athlete, proving again how great you have to 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: be to play in the big leagues or play in 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: the NBA. And so Cal and Ryan Ripkin made us 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: out a laugh out loud so many times as we 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: said that they're six foot five together on average, we're 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: five foot five. It's there's a really big difference between 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: the two. But we sure had a great time. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Let's just say we're glad we did the interviews virtually 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: instead of holding a mic flag like you and Randy 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Johnson type. 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: So, speaking of the Ripkins, Jeff I covered the Orioles 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: in the eighties, of course for the Baltimore Sun and 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: eighty seven. Cal Senor was mentioned heavily in the Wednesday episode. 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Coming up was the manager of the team. Cal Junior 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: was the shortstop and Billy Ripkins was the second baseman, 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: and so we have three Ripkins. It was just tremendous 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: so Edward Bettett Williams, who was the owner of the team, 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: who at this point was very sick, and he was 68 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: a little bit grouchy, and he was a little million 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: times smarter than everyone else. He came to spring training. 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: It was about one hundred and twenty degrees in Miami 71 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: that day, and he looked around the field. It was 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: a backfield, and Cal Senior is barking to everyone, you know, 73 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: let's do this. He's doing a great job as the manager. 74 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: Cal and Billy are running all over the place like 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: they're nine and five years old. And Edward Bennett Williams 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: looks at me and he goes, do we have any 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: more Ripkins? Can they send more Ripkins? Please? Is there 78 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: an aunt? Is there an uncle that we could That's 79 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: how important it was to the Ripkins to play the 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: game him the right way. And we'll hear all about that, 81 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: the obsessive nature of both of the Ripkens when we 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: talk to them on Wednesday. 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Dad, I want to get a little update before we 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: get into the big breaking news from yesterday. From Sunday 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: on Father's Day, we find out the big Red Sox 86 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: trade with Devers. We're gonna jump into that We're also 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna talk show Hey and His Big Night tonight Monday night. 88 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: But I want to hear a little update on how 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: the new dog is doing. 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 2: Rexy's doing great. We were really having a good time 91 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: with her, but we've actually changed her name to Egypt 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: because the first four days at home she left pyramids 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: all across the house. I was assured the dog was 94 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: potty trained, but I guess when you switch like venues, 95 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 2: the dog gets a little bit confused. So I think 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: we are in the process due to our diligence at 97 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: home making sure that Rexy doesn't poop all over the house. 98 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: But so far, so good in the new attempt to 99 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: keep her from pooping and peeing everywhere. 100 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, Dad, that can be tough. And 101 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: we have a dog Ranger who is upstairs pounding around 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: in the house and he was the quickest potty trained dog. 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: We were talking about it yesterday. I think he's gone 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: five times in our house, and I think Rexy went 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: five times in one hour. 106 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: She did absolutely all right, Jeff, let's just finish up 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: the Father's Day thing. I have this thing with Father's Day. 108 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: It means so much to me. It means so much 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: to all of us and the baseball end of it. 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: You know, Ken Griffy Junior and his dad hit back 111 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: to back homers in a game in nineteen ninety. I mean, 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: that will never happen again. I mean, how is that 113 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: even possible? That is so cool. The fielders Prince and 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: Cecil Fielder both hit three hundred and nineteen home runs 115 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: exactly in their careers. And I talked about the Ripkin family, 116 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: but the Boone family is much the same way. You know, 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: Aaron Boone, Ray Boone, the grandfather Bob Boone. Of course 118 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: dad managed played in the big leagues, Brett Boone. 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: So I'm the hitting coach of the Rangers. 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Right and I'll never forget that. Aaron told me once 121 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: that he's only this was years ago, but he said, 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: I've only seen my dad cry twice in my life. 123 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: He said. The first time was when I made the 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: All Star team as a member of the Reds and 125 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: my dad was my manager, and he called me in 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: to tell me I had made the All Star team, 127 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: and he started to cry there at his manager's desk. 128 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: And he said, the second time I saw him cry 129 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: was when I got named the manager of the Yankees. 130 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: So his father is something it really really runs deep. 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: And and you know, Buddy Bell is one of my 132 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: all time favorite people. The Bell family. Gus Bell was 133 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: his dad, really good major leaguer, you know, Michael Bell, 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: David Bell. They played in the major leagues. Ricky Bell 135 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: played professionally. And Buddy, of course one of the great 136 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: defense one of the great players that I've ever covered, 137 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: and one of the best defensive third baseman ever. So 138 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: I'll never forget this. I was really young writer eighty 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: two covering the Rangers, and I got to talking to 140 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Buddy about his life and his dad, and he told 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: me that his dad, because he was in the big leagues, 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: didn't get to see a lot of Buddy's games because 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: he was too busy playing his game. But he said 144 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: when he did come to the games, Jeff, this has 145 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: always touched me. He said, when he came to the games, 146 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: he didn't want to sit in the stands with everybody else, 147 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: not because he was antisocial, but because he wanted to 148 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: watch the game and concentrate on the game. So he 149 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: said he used to park his car beyond the center 150 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: field fence and watch me play. And he said, if 151 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: I made a good play, he'd honk his horn once. 152 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: If I made a great play, he'd honk it twice. 153 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: And I just thought that was the coolest thing. 154 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: I love those kind of stories. And you know, we 155 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: share a funny similar, not similar father son's story. At 156 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: the first time you ever saw me, I'm hiring behind 157 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: home plate, which was you know, I was a little 158 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: league umpire and I loved doing it, and I like 159 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: to think I was pretty good at it too. I mean, 160 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: I grew up in a baseball household. Yeah, yeah, we're 161 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: exactly what we learned growing up. 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: Well, I was. 163 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I remember having a difficult game behind the plate. I 164 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: remember balls and strikes were not coming to me. Some 165 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: days you have off days. Well, anyway, pop up goes 166 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: in the infield. There's a runner on first, not first 167 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and second, and the dad is yelling, that's an infield fly. 168 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: That's an infield fly. 169 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: And what's wrong with you? 170 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Recognizes you and said this stinks. You would know you're 171 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: the baseball guy. It's an infield fly rule. 172 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: He said, what did you say? Well, look, I'm not 173 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: a confrontational type, Jeff, but I said, that's not an 174 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: infield fly rule. And the guy you're yelling at is 175 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: my son, and this guy just like put his tail 176 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: between his legs and walked away. Look, if you're going 177 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: to criticize, you better be better be right. You better 178 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: be right about it. Yeah. And last thing, Jeff, you know, 179 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: my dad, your grandfather, was the greatest man ever, and 180 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: I think about him every Father's Day. We lost him 181 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: in two thousand and three. And I don't care how 182 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: corny this sounds. Jeff, when I told him that we 183 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: just had a boy, he started to cry that we 184 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: had a boy because Kelly was our first. Now we 185 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: have a second one. And I said, his name is Jeff, 186 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: which was my father's name. We named my son, our 187 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: son after my dad. And like later on in the 188 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: day he came up to me and he said, did 189 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: you name him after me? And I said, well, of 190 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: course we did. It took him hours to figure out 191 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: that we named our son after him. That was typical 192 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: of my pop, my dad, it was it was never 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: about him. Never. 194 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, a big happening on Father's Day this year, besides 195 00:09:55,080 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: celebrating dads, was the big trade Devs goes to the Giants. Now, Dad, 196 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: I was watching you on ESPN on baseball tonight and 197 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: this all broke like right as you guys were tossing 198 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: it to Carl and Eddie on the West Coast to 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: call the game. 200 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: The Dodgers Giants game, and the Giants had just came right. 201 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: So how crazy was this first? Before we dive into it, 202 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: just tell me, I'm just curious, and I think other 203 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: people would be too. 204 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: You are in Bristol, We're on television, and the word 205 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: comes in. It looks it's three minutes still seven shows 206 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: over at seven. It looks like Rafael Devers has been 207 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: traded to the Giants. And now we're scrambling because we 208 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: have to confirm it before we go out there, so 209 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: we couldn't confirm it in time, but we confirmed it 210 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: on the toss to Carl Ravitch, who then threw it 211 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: to Eduardo and Buster and David Cohne who were doing 212 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: the game the Giants game in Los Angeles. So actually 213 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: it was a perfect handoff in a lot of ways. 214 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: So this is the bottom line. Raphael Devers is making 215 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: his debut tonight Tuesday Night for the Giants, and this 216 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: is a tremendous move for the Giants, who picked up 217 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: all two hundred and fifty million dollars left on the contract, 218 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: but Devers, Jeff Devers is a great hitter and has 219 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: been one of the best hitters in the game for five, six, seven, 220 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: eight years. Jeff, He's got two hundred and nineteen homers 221 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: and five hundred extra base hits. He's already created a 222 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: path to the Hall of Fame. Third basemen don't have 223 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: these kind of numbers at this kind of age, except 224 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: for Rafael Devers. Now, he's not going to play third 225 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: base for the Giants because they have Matt Chapman who's 226 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: signed to a long term deal. Once he gets healthy, 227 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: he'll be back and he'll be there every day third basement. 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: So as long as he acknowledges all right, I'll play, 229 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: I'll be I'll play first base if you need me, 230 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: or I'll be the dh They're gonna be in good 231 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: shape because their pitching is really good, their bullpen is tremendous. 232 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: They're just not a very good offensive team, and they 233 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: got demonstrably better when they got Raphael Devers. 234 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: It just was incredible, Dad, to see that trade go through, 235 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: And I was even asking you questions because this just 236 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: feels to me like a personality move. You just heard 237 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: all of the drama surrounding Devers and the team and 238 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: playing DH when they brought Bregman in, and then playing 239 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: first after the injury, and it just sounded like he 240 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: was just not a fit in that clubhouse. And I 241 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: think Red Sox fans that I've seen on the internet 242 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: are not happy about this, comparing it to that of 243 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts. But ultimately, the vibe in the clubhouse is 244 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: so important for a team that wants to make it 245 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. 246 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on this. Look, if I'm Raphael Devers, 247 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm upset that they brought in Alex Bregman, a guy 248 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: to take my position. Okay, and let's be clear, the 249 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: Red Sox did not handle all of this particularly well. However, 250 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Joe sixty eight years old. My father taught 251 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: me you do what you're told by your elders, teach, coaches, parents, 252 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: and bosses, And in this case, the Red Sox are 253 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: the boss. They gave him all that money. And if 254 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: Alex Corus says we need you to play first base 255 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: or we need you to DH, you don't have to 256 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: be happy about it, but you have to do what 257 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: you're told. Ultimately, he did and he really started to 258 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: hit after a very slow start. But the bottom line 259 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: is he didn't want to be in Boston. The Red 260 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: Sox moved him along. It's a very risky move, Jef. 261 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: They had won five games in a row. We started saying, hey, 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: maybe the Red Sox got something going here. They got 263 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: the big three young guys up. Devers is hot, a 264 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: lot of things are going right. 265 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Sweep the Yankees for goodness, right. 266 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: And it helped him to four runs in three games. 267 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: So it's fascinating. We'll see where the Red Sox go 268 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: from here. But the one thing I know for sure 269 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: is the Giants got much better. And you know, I 270 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: really think it helps that Buster Posey is the general 271 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: manager for the Giants. When Devers shows up and talks 272 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: to Buster Posey, if he understands baseball at all, he's 273 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: gonna say that guy's probably going to the Hall of 274 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: Fame one day. That guy won an MVP in a 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: batting title and three World Series rings. If he tells 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: me to do something, then I think I should do it. Also, 277 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: Bob Melvin is the manager there. He's a pretty darn 278 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: good manager. If he looks at me in the eyes 279 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: and says, we need you to dh or we need 280 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: you to play first base once in a while. Sorry, 281 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do because as a sixty eight 282 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: year old man, that's what I was taught to do. 283 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: So we'll follow up with the Devers on Thursday with 284 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: what's going on with that because his first game, as 285 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: Dad said, tonight for the San Francisco Giants, and so 286 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: we'll see how this shakes out. Speaking of big things 287 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: happening two nights, So we're filming on Monday. So the Dodgers, 288 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: the Padres, and shohe Otani makes his first visit to the. 289 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: Mound in twenty one months. Yeah, since his second Tommy 290 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: John surgery. He's just going to be the opener an 291 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: inning or two. That's probably all it's going to be. 292 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: And I have no doubt that he will be ready 293 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: to do this because, as I've told you before, Jeff, 294 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: this guy is a baseball machine. Every movement he makes 295 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: is surgical. There is a reason behind every swing he takes, 296 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: every step he takes, every ball he throws. It's all 297 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: designed to make him the most remarkable player that we've 298 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: ever seen. We had Phil Nevin for one of the 299 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: former Angel managers on last year and we asked him 300 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: about Shoe a TONI. Do you remember the conversation. I 301 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: actually brought a clip Dad, Right, Well, we need to 302 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: hear Phil Nevin talk about what it was like to 303 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: manage show Hey the player and in this case, show 304 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: Hey the pitcher. Tell me what it was like to 305 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: manage show Hey Otani in the Major League. 306 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: It was awesome. You know, the best players of manager 307 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: are the ones that you just never have to worry about. 308 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: You know that they're going to be prepared, which I've 309 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: never been around a player that's more prepared than show 310 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: Heo Tani. That took care of his body the way 311 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: he does. He would look ahead. We were playing. We 312 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: had the eleven o'clock Marathon game in Boston two years 313 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: ago and it was a It was a week and 314 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: a half or two leading up to it, and I 315 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: noticed that it was Showhy's day to pitch. So I 316 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: called him in and said, hey, we can adjust this. 317 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: Because his workload throughout a year, you do try to 318 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: manage that and work through it and give him as 319 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: much rest as you can. Pointed on the calendar, I said, okay, 320 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: this game is at eleven o'clock in the morning. We 321 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: can push you back and put have you pitch the 322 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: first game in New York and give you that day. 323 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: And he starts looking at he goes, Nope, we play 324 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: at one o'clock on Sunday. I can go to sleep 325 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: by seven o'clock. I can wake up at this time 326 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: and I'll be ready to pitch at eleven o'clock. And 327 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: I looked at his interpreter. I said, he's just gonna 328 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: go to bed at seven o'clock. 329 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: And what happens. 330 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I can't just lay 331 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: my head down at seven close my eyes. And yeah, 332 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: he just puts his head down, He closes his eyes, 333 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: and he's like a machine, and he just goes asleep 334 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: and he gets his proper rest and he wakes up 335 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: at a certain time. He started preparing for that game, 336 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: probably a week and a half ahead of time. 337 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dad. Phil Nevian was a fantastic, fantastic 338 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: guest during the Super Bowl because he was a former 339 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: college football player, so we had to talk to him 340 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: about that. But of course we got talking about show Hay, 341 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: who is just truly an extraterrestrial on this planet with 342 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: what he can do. But Dad, to your point, there 343 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: is no way show Hay is allowing himself to not 344 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: be out there on a mound when. 345 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: He is not ready. He's in charge of everything. He's 346 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: not going to embarrass himself. He's not going to do 347 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: anything to hurt his team. He's certainly not going to 348 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: do anything to reinjure that elbow, because if he does 349 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 2: it again, he may never pitch again. So I have 350 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: one hundred percent faith that he know exactly what he's 351 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: doing with his body. 352 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Now, keep in mind, as the father of a year 353 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: two year old, we were not filming this in time 354 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: to watch the game with a nine p thirty Eastern 355 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: and you're. 356 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: A morning radio show has to get up at four 357 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: o'clock every morning. 358 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeahoe, so that does not fit with my schedule. Now, 359 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: So keeping in mind, you know, if he throws two 360 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: shutout innings and we missed it, we're sorry, but we'll 361 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: catch up. That's why we started adding that second episode 362 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: so we can always catch up. 363 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: And the last takeaway is Aaron Judge, Okay, Aaron Judge. 364 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: Jeff is having the best run here last year and 365 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: this year specifically, is the best hitter I've seen since 366 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds, and that is really saying so meaning I 367 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: think what he's doing is more impressive even than Miguel 368 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 2: Cabrera who won a triple crown, and Albert Poohols who 369 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: hit six hundred homers and got three thousand hits. But 370 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: what this guy's doing is just absolutely incredible. He's doing 371 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: things that Babe Ruth and Louke Garretton never did through 372 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: you know, basically seventy games of a season. But the 373 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: point is over the weekend at Fenway Park, he struck 374 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: out three times on Friday Night, also hit a game 375 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: tying home run by the Way, struck out three times 376 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: on Saturday and three times on Sunday. So the best 377 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: hitter in the game struck out nine times in a 378 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: three game series. We've told you before Yogi Barra struck 379 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: out twelve times while hitting twenty eight homers during the 380 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight season. So Aaron Judge struck out nine 381 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 2: times in one series against the Red Sox, which is 382 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: the most strikeouts by any Yankee hitter in any series 383 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: against the Red Sox in the history of that rivalry. 384 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter how long the series has gone. 385 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: He did it in three games. Matt Holiday struck out 386 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: eight times in four games, Mickey Mannle struck out eight 387 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: times in a four game series and a five game 388 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: series against the Red Sox. But Judge did it in 389 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: three games. Jeff, the point of this is not what 390 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 2: a bumm he is already and we just told you 391 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: he is unbelievable. But this proves again a how great 392 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: the pitching is in the big leagues today, like nothing 393 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: I've ever seen, hardest hitting environment I've ever seen. But 394 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: more important, it just speaks to the degree of difficulty 395 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: of the game. Jeff, I've told you this a million times. 396 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: Baseball players are not They're not the best player on 397 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: the field every single night. You know, Steph Curry is 398 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: always the best player on the court. Lebron's always the 399 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: best court player, Michael Jordan always the best player, and 400 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: it never changes. But in baseball, these crazy things happen 401 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: that great players strike out nine times in three games. 402 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: It's why the game is so good, is it's so 403 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: hard and it's so humbling. 404 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: And the game is so good because we love our 405 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: quirk gins. We've got that coming up next for you 406 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: on this State in Baseball History, and Dad you also 407 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: brought us a father team Tim, a father son team Tim. Right, 408 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: that's all coming up. Now, my son, is this a 409 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: great game or what welcome back to? Is this a 410 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: great game? 411 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Or what? 412 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: Dad? Jump into the quirk gym. 413 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this has a little father son to it. On Saturday, 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: the Contreras brothers, William and Wilson Contrere's playing for the 415 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: Brewers and the Cardinals hit home runs in the same 416 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: inning as opponents. Now, the last time that happened was 417 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty three. Wes Farrell was a pitcher for 418 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: the Red Sox and Rick Ferrell was a catcher, and 419 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: Rick Ferrell hit a home run off of his brother, 420 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: and in the same inning, Wes Ferrell hit a homer. Now, 421 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: I say that because Wes Farrell is one of the 422 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: great hitting pictures of all time. So yeah, I want 423 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: to say, in the early two thousands, I'll be close 424 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: on this, the Red Sox won back to back games 425 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: with a walk off home run. So curious me wonders 426 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: when the last time the Red Sox won back to 427 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: back games with a walkoff homer. The answer is nineteen 428 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: thirty five, and Wes Farrell, a pitcher, hit the walkoff 429 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: homer both times. No, he did the first one as 430 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: a pinch hitter, three run homer ends the game. The 431 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: next day he's. 432 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: The starting pitcher, he pitches. 433 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: All nine innings, and in the bottom of the ninth 434 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: inning he hits a walk off home run. So nineteen 435 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: thirty five, Wes Farrell hit two walkoff homers back to 436 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: back games, and he's a pitcher. 437 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable in twenty twenty five to ever think 438 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: of pinch hitting a pitcher right. 439 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: Or leaving a pitcher in for nine inning and letting 440 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: him bad in the bottom of the ninth. Again, it's 441 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: just a seventeen, nineteen thirty three, Jeff. Things have changed. 442 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: We all understand why, but that happened. Wes Farrell's one 443 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: of the great hitting pictures of all times. Speaking of hitting, 444 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: so Casey Schmidt of the Giants hit grand slow in 445 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: back to back games last week. He had never hit 446 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: a grand granted, very small sample, but he'd never hit 447 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: a grand slam in the major leagues. Then he hit two. 448 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: In fact, he won in back to back games. So 449 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 2: the last guy to do that was Tyler Saladino in 450 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Believe it was with the Brewers, and he 451 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: had never hit a Grand Slam either, and then he 452 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: hit one. I hit a Grand Slam in back to 453 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: back games. 454 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Jeff, It just the numbers don't make sense statistically. I 455 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: hate thinking of baseball in a numbers game because that 456 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen, Jeff. 457 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: Derek Jeter hit one Grand Slam in his career. Pete 458 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: Rose hit one Grand Slam in his career. These guys 459 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: hit two Grand Slams in two games, and neither one 460 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: of them had ever hit one before. Speaking unbelievable, the 461 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Rockies are unbelievable, like, no matter what they do, something 462 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: crazy happened. So the other day they made four errors 463 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: and grounded into four double plays in one game. Sounds 464 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: like a lot, right, Yeah, all right, so I checked. 465 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: The last time that happened. The Yankees did it against 466 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: Marlins in twenty twenty, but that was a ten inning game. 467 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: So the last time a team in a nine inning 468 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: game grounded into four double plays made four errors for 469 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: the Indians, then Indians in two thousand and sixteen. And 470 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: then the other day on Sunday, the Rockies, who are 471 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: always making news, somehow they won a game ten to one. 472 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: And they struck out fifteen times, sixteen times. So I wondered, 473 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: when's the last team to strike out sixteen times in 474 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: a game and scored ten runs. 475 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: And the answer was, oh, the Rockies. 476 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: Did it earlier this year. The only team that have 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: done it this year, They've done it twice. Austin Slater 478 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: of the White Sox struck out five times in a 479 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: game the other day. Sixth time this year that somebody 480 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: has struck out five times in a game. The record 481 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: before July is nine, and that happened in nineteen. So 482 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: we'll be charting that. I was Jeff, as you know, 483 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: three is a hat trick, four is a sombrero. 484 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Five is a golden's sombrero. 485 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: So I covered a game in Kansas City ones years 486 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: and years ago. Sam Horn struck out six times. All right, 487 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: He became the first position player, at least at the 488 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: time ever to strike out six times in a game. 489 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: So I went to the clubhouse to talk to Mike others. 490 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: But Mike Flanning and one of the funniest people ever, 491 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: and I said, okay, Flanny, Three is a hat trick, 492 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: four is a sombrero, five is a golden sombrero. I've 493 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: never seen a six before. What do I call it? 494 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: And he said, from now on, a six will be 495 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 2: known as a horn, a horn. And he said, if 496 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: anyone ever goes to seven, we'll call it a horn 497 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: of plenty. So now, because of my dear friend Mike 498 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: Flanning and the late Mike Planning, and I don't root 499 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: for anyone to strike out times, but if they do, 500 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: I know what we're gonna call it. We're gonna call 501 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: it a horn. I love that all right. Last thing, 502 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: Jeff Braxton Fulford, he was the guy. He's the Rockies 503 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: catcher speaking of the Rockies, who went over four with 504 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: four strikeouts in his major league debut this year. Okay, 505 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: first game he ever plays four strikeouts? Right, But he 506 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: did something the other day on Sunday in the ten 507 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: to one win. He he knocked in five runs out 508 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: of the number nine spot. 509 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: Here we are, Jeff, we've been charting this right. 510 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: So that is the ninth time this year that a 511 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: number nine hitter has driven in five runs in a game. 512 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: That is now the major league record for any season, 513 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: Jeff were midway through June. It's the record for any 514 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: season of five RBI games coming out of the ninth spot. 515 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: What do you think that tells you about the way 516 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: we make up our lineups today? What does that mean 517 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: to you? 518 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: You know, I posted on our social media that great 519 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: game or what on TikTok. I think somebody had commented, 520 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: and you know there are negative people on the internet, 521 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: all right, we know really and they basically said, this 522 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: is not a fact. Pictures used to bat ninth in 523 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: the NL before this, and you always used to bat 524 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: your crappy cat catcher. This is not a good fact. 525 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: And there's a point to be made there. There is 526 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of truth in every angry comment we say. 527 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: And yes, it is true right nationally obviously about the 528 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: picture ninth. So they're not they're not driving in five 529 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: runs because they're not even getting that many at bats usually. 530 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: But I think there's a good point to be had here, 531 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: Dad that now the adjustments of where people are batting, 532 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber would have never let off a game twenty 533 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: years ago, Tony would have never let off a game 534 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: thirty years ago. 535 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: Everything is changed. Aaron Judge would hit third every single game, 536 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: h third or four. We have good hitters hitting ninth 537 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: every day. Look, we're well aware that, you know, nine 538 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: hitters have been pictures from most of the time where 539 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: it's still a pretty amazing statistic. Middle of June, we've 540 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: had nine number nine hitters driving five more runs in 541 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: a game. 542 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: And you really think about it, though, Shout out to 543 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: the six, seven, eight guys, because they're the ones getting 544 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: on base here, you know what I mean. That's another 545 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: at it of this is they're not just hitting dingers, 546 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: they're driving people. 547 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: In too, right. 548 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, dad, on this date in baseball history. 549 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 2: What do you have? Okay, nineteen sixty, Ted Williams hit 550 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: number five hundred to join Babe Ruth, Jimmy Fox and 551 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Mel Ott in the five hundred home run club. 552 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: You're telling me when Ted Williams joined, that was the 553 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: entire list. 554 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we're way we're six times beyond that. 555 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: And again we've talked about this many times. If Ted 556 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: Williams hadn't served our country so well as a marine 557 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: fighter pilot, he would have been closer to seven hundred 558 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: home runs in nineteen sixty than five hundred or hero 559 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: in every way, all right. Also, nineteen seventy eight, one 560 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: of my favorites, Ron Guidry Struck out eighteen batters in 561 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: a game, which set the American League record for most 562 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: strikeouts by a left handed pitcher in a game with eighteen. 563 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: And Gator was his nickname Louisiana Lightning. He didn't weigh 564 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: more than one hundred and fifty five pounds, which is 565 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: roughly what you weigh, Jeff. Okay, and he struck out 566 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: eighteen batters in a major league game. So that year, Jeff, 567 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: he went twenty five and three. And these are the 568 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: little things that I just love so much. Those are 569 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: three guys who beat him were all named Mike. Mike Flanagan, 570 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: Mike Caldwell, and Mike Willis of the Blue Jays. So 571 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: he went twenty five and zero against everyone, and the well, 572 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: maybe he beats somebody named Mike, but the three losses. 573 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: The winning pitcher of the other game in the game 574 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: was called it was name Mike. 575 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: That's the same amount of Mike's we have here in 576 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: the studios. 577 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: Jeff, I'll handle the funny stuff, okay. Oh yeah, really good. 578 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I think you need some help, all right. 579 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: So and last thing, Happy birthday to Manny Lee, formerly 580 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: of the Blue Jays. Was a good little shortstop. Nothing 581 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: against Manny Lee. But in nineteen ninety one, he became 582 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: the first player ever to strike out one hundred times 583 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: in a season without hitting a homer, no walks, I mean, 584 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: no homers, one hundred and seven strikeouts. Michael Bourne outfielder 585 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: did that in twenty fifteen, also no homers, one hundred 586 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: and seven strikeouts, and the only two players in history 587 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: to strike out one hundred times in a season without 588 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: hitting a home run. But that's when the strikeout craze 589 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: began mid eighties, by early nineties and now, as we 590 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: talk about every week on the podcast, totally out of control. 591 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: And it's kind of crazy that Michael Bourne was able 592 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: to do that with all the drama going around with 593 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: his brother Jason on the run from the CIA, and 594 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: that was just crazy the Bourne identity. 595 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: He was a really good center fielder, all right, Dad. 596 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: So we go into Team Tim right now, and I 597 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: want to hear yours first, but I want to shout 598 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: out Todd Williamson who came up with a really cool 599 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: Team Tim. You can always email me Jeff at Great 600 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Game or what dot com if you want to submit 601 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: your I am a seamhead audio portion, just send me 602 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: a voice memo. 603 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: There as well, So we are looking for help. There 604 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: are really funny, clever, smart people out there who think 605 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: sadly the same way that I do about things, and 606 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: we're interested in you helping with the podcast here. If 607 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: you have something to add, if we really like it, 608 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: we're going to read it on the air. And Todd 609 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: Williamson Yep, all right, We're going to get to Todd 610 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: in just a minute. But this is my team Tim 611 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: Father's Day Edition, okay too. Our catcher is Jose Travino 612 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. He had just become a father for 613 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: the first time, and he had he was also playing 614 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: as a tribute to his father, and in that game 615 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: he hit a walk off single win the game. Soon 616 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: after becoming a dad and soon after I believe losing 617 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: his dad. First baseman is Matt Adams twenty nineteen. He 618 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: got his dad down on the field at National's Park 619 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: and played catch with his father on a major league 620 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: field before a game on Father's Day. And then Matt 621 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: Adams went out and hit two home runs in that game. 622 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: How many times do you think they played catch together 623 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: growing up? 624 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: A zillion, but not on a major league field, And 625 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: that was the most down here and then he goes 626 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: out and hits two balls out of the ballpark. Two 627 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: thousand and one, Tony Womack one of my favorite people ever. 628 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: He had just lost his dad, and Tony was not 629 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: a home run hitter, not a power hitter, and on 630 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: that day, with tears in his eyes, he had a 631 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: grand slam and ran around the bases thinking. He said, 632 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even want to play on Father's Day. I 633 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: was so distraught about losing my dad. But he played 634 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: and he had a grand slam. 635 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: That's one of those bigger than baseball moments we talked 636 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: about last week with the La de Las home run, 637 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: that's a really good one everywhere. 638 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: And John McDonald twenty ten loved John McDonald one of 639 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: the great defensive players I've ever seen, not a power hitter, 640 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: but he lost his dad Jack. The funeral was on 641 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: a Friday, Sunday was his first day off the bereavement list, 642 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: and he hit a home run to help his team 643 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: win the game, and after burying his father two days earlier, 644 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: and he loved his father like so many sons loved 645 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: their father. Nolan Aronado twenty seventeen hit for the cycle 646 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: and he became the first player ever to hit for 647 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: the cycle, in which the home run was the last 648 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: hit to complete the cycle. Oh yeah, really, yeah, I 649 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: was surprised to hear that. I hope I've got that right, Yes, 650 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: I do. 651 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Okay, he just confirmed with Frank from the Elias via bluetooth. 652 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: Right right on this date. In two thousand and four 653 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: Father's Day, Ken Griffey hit number five hundred and his dad, 654 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: Can Griffy Senior, was in the stands at the time, 655 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: so he saw his son hit his five hundredth homer 656 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: and to repeat, they hit back to back home runs 657 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: in a Major League game for the Seattle Mariner. It's 658 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: just incredible. Nineteen seventy one, Willie Stargel, one of the 659 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: great players ever nicknamed Pops, hit a home run in 660 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: both ends of a doubleheader in nineteen seventy one on 661 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: Father's Day. How appropriate is that? Ops? Right? And Hank 662 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: Aaron hit had one three home run game in his 663 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: career and it was on Father's Day nineteen fifty nine. 664 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: And we're going to get to Hank Aaron in a minute, right, because. 665 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, he's going to be on Todd's list here, 666 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: all right, Dad, It's unbelievable. That the home run champ 667 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: for as many as years as he was, only had 668 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: one three home run. 669 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: And please, this is not a criticism, No, Hank Aaron. 670 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: Hank Aaron. As we've said many times, if you take 671 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: away all his home runs, he still has three thousand hits. 672 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: Hank Aaron did not go up there thinking I got 673 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 2: to hit the ball out of the ballpark. He's thinking 674 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: I'm going to hit it really hard somewhere, and then 675 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy seven hundred and fifty five times 676 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: he hit it over the fence. Yeah, So that that 677 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: was Hank. Are a lot of people hit three homers 678 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: in a game now, because there they go up there 679 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: cutting for it, right, They're trying it three home runs 680 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: in a game, all right. Pitchers. Jim Bunning nineteen sixty 681 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: four pitched a perfect game on Father's Day. Wow. And 682 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 2: on Father's Day nineteen sixty seven, Don Wilson the Astros 683 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 2: pitched a no hitter, struck out fifteen and the last 684 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 2: batter he struck out in that game of the Atlanta 685 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: Braves was who what? Who was the last guy who 686 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: struck out in that game? Fifteen strikeouts for Don Wilson 687 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: in his no hitter. The last out was made by 688 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: the greatest Atlanta Brave ever, Hank Aaron. Hank Aaron made 689 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: the last out of that game, right struck out to 690 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: end the game, fifteenth strikeout for don On Wilson on 691 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 2: Father's Day? 692 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: Do you think Raffie Devers will be on this list 693 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: one day? He had a home run for the Red 694 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: Sox on Father's Day and then got straight into the Giants. 695 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: Jeff not out of the question if he become Seriously, 696 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: if he becomes a World Series champion with the Giants 697 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: and this trade pays off in ten years or whatever, 698 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: and where's the Hall of Fame cap Jeff for the 699 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: Giants in his Hall of Fame career, that he'll make 700 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: that list. 701 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: He's noteworthy events on Father's Day. Of course, Rafael Devers 702 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: in a stunning trade gets traded. 703 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: All right, go with me, Dad. Todd Williamson submitted his 704 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: own team tim okay. So we had been talking about 705 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: three name, three first name players. We're talking about Lynn 706 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: Manuel Miranda by the way, right, which still trying to 707 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: get him on the podcast. We're not throwing away our shot, Dad. 708 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: We got to make this happen well. 709 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Cole Henry of the Nationals, who goes by Cole Henry, 710 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: was the one who just looked me in the eye 711 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: the other day and said, you know, I have three 712 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: first names, right, So that's where this came from, all right. 713 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: We had him on the box, we had his name 714 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: on the podcast. So this fellow, Todd Williams, Todd Williamson 715 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: came up with a team tim with all three names. 716 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: I love this, right, Dad, I know this is your nightmare. 717 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: I printed out an email and so you already have 718 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: enough trouble with your phone now an email is on 719 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: hard copy here, all right. So at catcher, So this 720 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: is he thinks this team could win one hundred and 721 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty plus games in a season. And he has his 722 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductees with three first names. William Malcolm Dickey. 723 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: Bill Dickey is the catcher. 724 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: I love it. 725 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: And my father's middle name is Malcolm. Yes, oh yes, 726 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: Bill Terry also known as William Harold Terry. And I'm 727 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: going with the name that people would probably know him 728 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: a little Bill Terry. 729 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: Obviously. That is so good. Our segramasman is Joe Leonard 730 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: Morgan Great Morgan Ensburg used to play in the Major 731 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 2: League used to make me laugh out loud quite a bit. 732 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: And a good player shortstop is John Montgomery Ward. Jeff. 733 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean anything to you, But when I was 734 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: growing up, one of the great Hartman stores in this 735 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: area was was Montgomery Ward. Since out of business, Montgomery Ward, 736 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah really, And there was Sears Roebuck which just became 737 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 2: Sears Montgomery Ward. So I'm always looking for a Montgomery 738 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: Ward reference at some point, even though half the people 739 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: would have never even heard of because they're way too young, 740 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: like you. 741 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: George Howard Brett, that's a great three first name right there, right? 742 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: And George Herman Ruth. How about that female female name? 743 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: Love that? And our favorite now Henry Lewis Aaron pretty good. 744 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: And that's a great one. Andre Nolan Dawson didn't know 745 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: Andrey Dowson's middle name was Nolan. 746 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: I think that's so cool. I did not know that either. 747 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: Frank Edward Thomas. There are way more of these than 748 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: I thought. 749 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: Jay Hannah Dean better known as Dizzy Dean, I didn't 750 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: know that one. There's another female's. 751 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: Name, right right, Hannah Dagan. 752 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: Picture right there we go, There we go, Lynn Nolan Ryan, 753 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,479 Speaker 1: I didn't realize Lynn was his first name. 754 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: I did, And you know, I've told you. I hope 755 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: you did. Yeah, I've told you that. The last I 756 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: looked that were like twenty seven teammates of Nolan Ryan 757 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: who named their son after Nolan Ryan. And I also 758 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: know a guy who has a son named Ryan. So 759 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: his name is Ryan Nolan. And I was asked by 760 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: his dad if I could somehow arrange to get you know, 761 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: ten year old Ryan Nolan in to meet Nolan Ryan 762 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse in Baltimore one day. So how'd that 763 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 2: work out for? It didn't? All right? 764 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: So we also have Steve, Norman, Carlton, great three first names? 765 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 2: Right? What else you got? Edward, Charles Whitey Ford? Too 766 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: many guys named Ford, but first name Ford? Do you 767 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 2: know anyone Ford? 768 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of becoming more of a common name. But 769 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: I drive to Fords. 770 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. I don't know understand this. 771 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: Robert Gibson SSA. What does that mean? 772 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: The Social Security Administration he was looking through he has 773 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: a searchable tool on there. Approximately twenty nine hundred people 774 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: named Gibson over the last one hundred years. He's saying 775 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: as a first name Gibson Gibson twenty nine hundred people 776 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: in the last one hundred years, which when you really 777 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: think about how many people who have been born in 778 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: the last one hundred years, that's not a lot of people. 779 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: Yep. I just I just applied mom and I for 780 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: social Security. 781 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to say congratulations. 782 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: Are congratulations in order for that? 783 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: How's your back feel? Did it immediately? Like go out 784 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: when you did it? 785 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. Don't worry, okay. 786 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: And James Augustus Hunter, better known as Catfish, Thank god 787 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: he went with Catfish. That's really cool there are That 788 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: was a very very clever list, very very funny. Thank 789 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: you so much. Toddy has a whole bench players list too. 790 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: He is a clever guy and I appreciate that time. 791 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 2: This is the point of baseball. People sitting in front 792 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: of their computer and figure this stuff out. I do 793 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 2: it every week, multiple times, thinking who's going to be 794 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: interested in this? And I have found people like this 795 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. 796 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: You can always email me jeffigreat game or what dot 797 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: com and I'll tell you Dad, We've gotten inundated with 798 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot of great emails, and it's hard for me 799 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: to get back to everybody. So I try my very best, 800 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: but if you want to become a seamhead, send us 801 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: a voice note jeffat Great Game or what dot com. 802 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: We do those on Thursdays tomorrow on the feed, Dad, 803 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away too much. We've got 804 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: cow Ripken Junior and his son Ryan Ripkin. It's a 805 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: part of our celebration of Father's Day week this week. 806 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be an incredible interview. 807 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked basketball, we talked baseball, we talked arm wrestling, 808 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 2: we talked Mario Kart. Is that correct? Yeah? Very good, right. 809 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: Cal Junior is a very very funny and engaging guy, 810 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: but most of the time he has to be with 811 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 2: the right people. And his brother Billy is the absolute 812 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: perfect person. But he and his son Ryan are really 813 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 2: good together. They really go after each other in a 814 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: really fun spirited way. 815 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: I hope we didn't get them excited to do their 816 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: own podcasts together because we are the Baseball Father Son Podcast. 817 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: If they started there, we would just get thrown out 818 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: of all of the algorithms right now, So make sure 819 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: to join us on the feed tomorrow, share the podcast 820 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: with somebody you love, and thank you for listening. As always, 821 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: thank you for being a part of our family.