1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: on the earl four o'clock and after four o'clock you 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: go to the iHeart app for the Johnny Kent podcast 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken on Demand. So in case you're just joining 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: us now and you wonder what the hell what happened? 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: What happened in the first two hours, go to the 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: podcast after before. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Quick update and something we talked about earlier in the show. 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: The Manhattan adjunct college professor at Hunter College who threatened 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: a New York Post reporter with a machete to the 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: neck when he came to her home to ask her 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: about an incident where she disrupted a pro life student 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: table by flipping it over and cursing at all the 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: kids there. Has been fired. No, she's been removed from 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: her position, yes after college removed her. And she's also 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: suing NYPD for allegedly abusing her during the twenty twenty 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: George Floyd protests that also emerged as the new. 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Susceppinate just because she put him a shy to her 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: reporter's neck. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it's great. Photos and video of it It's unbelievable. 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: Wasn't she expressing herself? 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: She was, and she's protecting her home right standard ground 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: from the invasive media. 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Hey look she Oh. 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: She claims she suffered nerd nerve damage after being zip 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: tied back in twenty twenty when she was protesting. 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: Sounds like she's trying to change the subject. 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Well, no, they just found out that there's a lawsuit 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: that was already filed. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Crazy person. I think where course she became a professor. 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: All right, We're now going to talk to a man 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: by the name of Austin van der Hayden. Now who 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: is he and why are we having him on? He's 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: the municipal affairs liaison at the Goldwater Institute. They filed 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: a friend of the Court brief and supported business and 37 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: property owners suing the city of Phoenix from maintaining a 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: huge homeless encampment which has been known as the Zone, 39 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: and a Phoenix judge gave them the green light to 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: finally dismantle that encampment. Over the fine out how this happened. 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: We did talk about this story a couple of months 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: ago in The New York Times profiled this homeless encamped 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: in the downtown Phoenix. 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: It looks larger than anything you'll see in Los Angeles, Austin, Are. 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: You there, I am, Thanks so much for having me, Thanks. 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: For coming on. We have been tracking this story in 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: recent weeks. 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Described to us the zone so that people can understand 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: just the vastness of this encampment. 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: Sure, so you know your listeners know their governments failed 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: them on this issue, and you know, in Phoenix we've 52 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: been dealing with this central homeless encampment of about a 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: thousand people in a few square blocks who are on 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 4: the streets in front of businesses and residential properties. I mean, 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: there's horror stories of you know, babies being burned in 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: the streets, people being found burned to death in dumpsters. 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: Business owners are having to seal their lining of their 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: windows and doors to stop the season urine from seeping in. Drugs, rate, prostitution, thefts, 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: gang activity is all normal in this area. And all 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: this is happening to the city of Phoenix is just 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: you know, refused to enforce the law. And I know 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 4: similar things are happening all across California and much of 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: the country. But as you mentioned that, you know, a 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: state judge here in Arizona issue are ruling on that 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: lawsuit that we were involved in, which says that the 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: cities that fault for this lawlessness that's been occurring and 67 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: their fault fu liness problem to get out of hand 68 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: forcing law abiding citizens to clean up their mess, and 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: the cities just can't kick the can down the road anymore. 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 4: That have to enforce the law. And I think this 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: lawsuit is a real sign of hope for other California 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: cities and cities across America. 73 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: How long did it take to become a thousand person 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: encampment that's spread over many city blocks. 75 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's always kind of been a presence in 76 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: that area. There's a few shelter services and things of 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: that nature, and so it's always kind of been, you know, 78 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: there's always kind of been that presence. But really in 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, the last two or three years, 80 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: it's just gotten completely out of hand. 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: And talk about the this has up on our show 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: many times. Austin the twenty nineteenth ninth Circuit US Court 83 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: of Appeals made a decision Martin versus the City of 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: Boise that even here in La everybody's using that prohibit 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: cities from enforcing anti public camping laws against is described 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: as involuntarily homeless people. But I mean, what are the 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: specifics of that and how did that enter into what 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: happened in Phoenix? 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: Sure so, and that's kind of the same thing that 90 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: say Phoenix is using that lawsuits kind of say that 91 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: their hands are tied, and so essentially they're saying that 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: if there's not how it was interpreted incorrectly, mind you, 93 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: is that if there is not enough shelter for every 94 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 4: homeless person on the streets, you cannot enforce anti camping laws. 95 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: And cities were essentially taking that to say, we can 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: enforce any law that relates to the homeless population. So 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: we came in and argued, you know, you can enforce 98 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: laws on things such as arson, you know, theft, murder, 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: things like that, and I want to say, enforcing those 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: laws would clean up ninety percent of this issue, right, 101 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 4: And so with that, how this judge interpreted Boise and 102 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: our lawsuit is that if you go up to an 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: individual person and shelter is available to that individual person 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 4: and they refuse it, you can then enforce the anti 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 4: camping laws. Rather than saying, you know, if there's ten 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: thousand people on the streets and there's only five thousand 107 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: shelter beds. Well, that's that you can't enforce any anti 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: camping loss. They made that distinction, and I think that's 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: important to know. 110 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: And drug use is against the law. Prostitution against the law. 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: FECs and urine that's against the law of dumping that 112 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: on the street, a theft which is rampant. These are 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: all crimes and the police could have arrested these people 114 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: for those crimes and that would have disbanded much of 115 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the encampment. 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 4: Correct, And that's what exactly what this judge said, And 117 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: he said, you know, you've done this for too long 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: in the city of Phoenix. Cannot continue to you know, 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: put law abinding citizens on hook for cleaning up the 120 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 4: mess that the city created. And I really think that 121 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: this is going to provide a lot of hope for 122 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: these other cities in the Ninth Circuit. 123 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Now, this judge, he was a state judge, Yes, yep. 124 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: And how's the city responded. Are they beginning clean up 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: activities or are they appealing this biting it? 126 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: They have so they have filed an appeal, but they've 127 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: also started initial cleanups, so they're going block by block, 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, one block at a time, and they haven't 129 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: till July tenth to clean up the entire encampment. That's 130 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: that's what we've been. 131 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Told, is that right July tenth, every the entire encampment 132 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: has to be gone. 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: That is yes, that is what the judge ruled. And 134 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: you know this, this was issued a few months ago, 135 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 4: and up until about two weeks ago, they had one 136 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: block cleaned up. So that's that's where we currently stand. 137 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: I have been to Phoenix a lot in the summertime 138 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: because my son was in baseball tournaments for a number 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: of years, and I could not believe the heat. I 140 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: mean it was one hundred and twenty two degrees one 141 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: day I was there, and the and the asphalt was melting, 142 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: and that's going to think now. And the planes couldn't 143 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: take off from the airport because the air was so 144 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: thin from the heat that that the physics, the dynamics 145 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: didn't work. How did the how did these people live 146 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: on the ground where the ground must have been one 147 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one hundred and fifty degrees. 148 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: That's a fantastic question. I mean, that's it's it's really 149 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: the conditions that they're living in are something that no 150 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: one in America should have to live through. And you know, 151 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of you know, talk from the 152 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: city that has said, you know, we need to show compassion. 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: I completely agree, because what they're living through on the 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: streets is not it's not liveable at all. It's not 155 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: what you know, any Americans should live through. Having compassion 156 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: is getting them off the streets and getting them into 157 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: a better life and not you know, not enforcing the 158 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: law and choosing to have business owners be on the 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: hook for all this. 160 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: But people must have been dying in the streets from 161 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: the heaths, Yep, they were. Wow, that's that's that's so. 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: So you think this could this could apply to some 163 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: of the cities here in California that that face the 164 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: same problem because we have had this Ninth Circuit ruling 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: being used as an excuse here for not doing anything correct. 166 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's that's why I think this ruling is 167 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 4: so great here in Phoenix, because it really it lays 168 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: a roadmap for these other cities to you know, stop 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: kind of hiding behind this boy's decision and actually be 170 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: able to enforce some of these laws kind of take 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: the streets back, you know, make sure that every citizen's 172 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 4: rights are being protected. And I think that's going to 173 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: be key. 174 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Who had the standing to file the lawsuit because you 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: filed a friend of the court we did. 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the lawsuit was brought by the business owners 177 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: who've been dealing with this. I could go through hours 178 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: worth of the horror stories that they're dealing with, and 179 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: so the business owners talked with us. They talked with 180 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: Elon Worman, who's actually listed in my article that I 181 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: wrote in the Orange County Register and he was the 182 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: chief litigator on this and brought the lawsuit. 183 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for coming on, Austin. 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate it. Hopefully California towns and cities will 185 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: pick up on this and do the same thing they 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: did in Phoenix. The property owners and business owners. Thank 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: you very much, Austin for coming on. 188 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. 189 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: That's Austin vander Hayden, the Municipal Affairs, the aison at 190 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: the Goldwater Institute, and as John mentioned, they did file 191 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: a friend of the court brief and supported business and 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: property owners who seed the City of Phoenix from maintaining 193 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: this thousand homeless person encampment called the zone, and they 194 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: got a state judge to say, yeah, Phoenix, clean it up. 195 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: You can't hide behind that Ninth Circuit decision from twenty 196 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: nineteen known as Martin versus the City of Boise. More 197 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: coming up, Johnny Ken kf I AM six forty were 198 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: live everywhere in the iHeartRadio. 199 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 200 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 201 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: I just want one thing I want to follow off. 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: We just had Austin vander Hayden on and he was 203 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: with an organization that was part of a lawsuit to 204 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: get a thousand person homeless encampment off the streets of Phoenix. 205 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: It's just mind boggling. Should go look up at the 206 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: photos and the articles about it. The bottom line of 207 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: this is all the cities, Los Angeles and everywhere else 208 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: could have cleaned up all this homeless nonsense simply by 209 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: enforcing existing laws. Any excuse they give is bs steaming bs. 210 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: They just chose not to. This is the way they 211 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: want the city to be. They want people living in 212 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: the streets, drug addicts and mental patients and all the 213 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: sickness and disgust. 214 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: That it brings from I remember Lap was telling people 215 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: this in Venice a few years ago. The decision was 216 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. I remember this is twenty twenty, during the pandemic. 217 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: Like well, because of the pandemic and the Boise Court ruling, 218 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: we can't do anything. 219 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: That was this. 220 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Those were lies, absolute lies. They chose this path. They 221 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: got this sick idea that people should be allowed to 222 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: do whatever they want and they can destroy their lives 223 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: in public in front of us and we have to 224 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: sit and watch. That was the choice of the officials, 225 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: starting with the Garcettian bonning here in Los Angeles and 226 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: encompassing just hundreds of them at the state level. At 227 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: the local level, they thought people should be allowed to 228 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: do this. 229 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: But will we get a judge with the guts or 230 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: the wherewith all of this state judge in Arizona to 231 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: make a decision like this, to look at the Boise 232 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: decision for the truth that it was and tell the 233 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: city of whatever in the city of Phoenix to clean 234 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: up the homeles en camp. Will we get somebody like 235 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: this here if we have some business owners and property 236 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: owners taking a lawsuit against these horrible homeless encampments instead 237 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: of having you know, Mayor Bessetti go in there, one 238 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: person at a time and try to put them in 239 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: hotel rooms. 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a public relations stunt that she's pulling. She's 241 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: not having much an effect on the overall population. 242 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: Right, because this decision tells them that you can't have 243 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: an encampment. You just can't do it. 244 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Theresh to hazard, there's too many laws being broken. All 245 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: these laws were always being broken by the thousands every day. 246 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Thousands of little laws were being broken, and they could 247 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: have enforced them. There was nothing illegal about it, nothing unconstitutional, 248 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: nothing in that Ninth Court Appeals decision. 249 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: Nothing. 250 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: They just chose to have anarchy. They thought, it's it's 251 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: the rights of homeless people and psychotics, mental patients, drug addicts. 252 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: It's in their rights to live this way, and who 253 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: were we to tell them otherwise. 254 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: Now, in a story related to this, interestingly enough, because 255 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: I pulled this story up and it's in the Washington Post, 256 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: but it also went to Phoenix. It is the demographic 257 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: reality that because America is getting older with the baby 258 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: boomers getting older, so with a homeless this is really 259 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: going to complicate the problem. If you have and how 260 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: many times have you seen this John. So many people 261 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: have nothing saved for retirement, so they could end up 262 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: like these people. When they have to stop working because 263 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: they're too old to hold down a job, they're going 264 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: to end up homeless. Beatrice heron seventy three clutched the 265 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: flyer offering low cost cable TV, imagining herself in an 266 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: apartment somewhere out of the Arizona heat where she could 267 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: settle into an armchair and tune into a television of 268 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: her own. The grandmother and former autoworker can be found 269 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: most mornings in a food line, seeking shade under the 270 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: awning of a mobile street clinic. At night, she sleeps 271 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: on the floor mat at a homeless shelter. She laments 272 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: the odors of human waste outside and the thieves who 273 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: have victimized her repeatedly. My wallet's gone, my purse was stolen, 274 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: and this story and they happened to pick Phoenix, which 275 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: we were just talking about. Highlights. Nearly a quarter of 276 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: a million people fifty five or older are estimated by 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: the government to have been homeless in the United States 278 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: during at least part of twenty nineteen. That's the last 279 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: reliable fed will count. 280 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: How much does her family hate her. 281 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: That they can't help take care of her. 282 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 283 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: Yah, so she's a grandmother. 284 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. What's wrong in the family there, They 285 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to keep say, we don't have enough money 286 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to take care of ourselves. We can't take grandma in 287 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: with her special needs. I don't know if that need 288 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: to be the case, but it did. Yeah, but you 289 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: and I know that growing up, this didn't exist because 290 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: people did take care of their parents. 291 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: They did figure out a way. Rice is becoming a 292 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: bigger issue. 293 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, even if it was a little room, you know, 294 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: attached to the back of the house or in the 295 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: basement or something. I mean, this hasn't heard it in 296 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: most countries in Europe. This is unheard of Asia too, 297 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: Asia too. I mean, I don't understand. 298 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: And even the Mexican and Central American countries, they believe 299 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: it's important to take care of your elders. 300 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: And how do you live as an adult for fifty 301 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: plus years and not have money saved and not have 302 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: some kind. 303 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: Of people rely on Social Security. But that's scraps generally. Yeah, 304 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: but I don't I don't understand. 305 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the one thing I just remember 306 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: my parents worrying about. From the earliest memories I have 307 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: of them is they were always worried about having enough 308 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: money when they got very old and they couldn't work anymore. 309 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: And they both worked into their seventies. They kept working, 310 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: and then they had enough money when they couldn't work anymore. 311 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Right, because eventually you're going to need help with everyday activities. 312 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: And they paid off their house so at least nobody 313 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: could take that away. You know, it got a little 314 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: crazy at the end when they couldn't live in the 315 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: house to get him into there. 316 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: Citing the gap here, you can get Medicaid, but only 317 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: if you're unable to care for themselves. Many elderly homeless 318 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: people are not debilitated enough to meet that criteria. Yeah, 319 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: there is still a special needs It says they're like 320 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: adult diapers. 321 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: So why don't we fix that? 322 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: Well? 323 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,479 Speaker 1: Why is it that they have to be completely debilitated 324 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: before they get Medicaid? Yeah, I mean, we're given like 325 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: illegal aliens healthcare here in California. Why why don't we 326 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: give Americans health care before they're there, before their pile 327 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: of rotting bones. I don't I don't understand, and I 328 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: don't understand people, people have lived their lives for the 329 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: last few decades. Nobody nobody plans for the future at all. 330 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Everybody indulges in the moment. It's constantly pleasing themselves in 331 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: the moment. Nobody in the family takes care of anybody. 332 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: You just like Grandma Rott literally rot in the street. 333 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't get over. 334 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: All right, we got more coming up. 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The Dodgers 345 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: have reinvited these Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to their Pride night. 346 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: That was a pr fiasco for the team after they 347 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: invited the group and there was objections by a couple 348 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: of Catholic groups. So they disinvited the group. Then last 349 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: night the news came out that they apologized and have 350 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: reinvited these sisters of perpetual indulgence. And there Frida Night 351 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: coming up in June. 352 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: It was the Catholics against the UH the trans people, 353 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: and the Catholics lost on this round. 354 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: They did, they did, and apparently, from what I understand, 355 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: there was an upheaval internally, Dodger employees were very upset that, 356 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: Oh god, the in fatigus. 357 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Everybody is so woke now so so all right? The 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: thing is, I mean much much of the Dodgers following 359 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: is Hispanic, and they're almost entirely Catholic. Now are they 360 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: the type of Catholic that would be bothered by this? 361 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah? 362 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: But they just won't go to Pride night. I'm sure 363 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: they're still rude for the team. No, you think they 364 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: give up on the team because of one night with 365 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: these crazy nuns. 366 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: No? 367 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: But but men with nuns outfits. I mean, you know, 368 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't get that I see these 369 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: things that I just stare at them. I don't get 370 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: dressing up as a nun. 371 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't understand. 372 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: Well, I thought part of you would because you went 373 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: to Catholic school, and you know how crazy the whole 374 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: nun thing is. Yeah, you're just having fun with it 375 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: and with the word indulgence. Just go and do all 376 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: you want to do it. And I don't know. 377 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: I didn't, I don't get I don't, I never you know, 378 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I never liked the nuns. 379 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: I don't like people who dress up as nuns. I 380 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: just I don't know. 381 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: It's not an attractive look. 382 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: I don't. 383 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't have any makeup on. I'm looking at a 384 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: picture of one guy with the big nun habit on 385 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: his head, looks like the flying Nun from the sixties. 386 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: I don't have any side I identify with here. I 387 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: just want to go to a baseball game. I don't 388 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: want to be distracted by anything else social. I wouldn't 389 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: notice you if I if I ended up there, it's 390 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: because I didn't know. It doesn't attract me, doesn't keep 391 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: me away. It's I don't pay attention. It's all that 392 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: nonsense that goes on before a game, where they're constantly 393 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: honoring people I don't know and don't care about. And 394 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: there's always a cause, and there's always a this and that, 395 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: there is there's always people grouped. 396 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: Like I said, it's off in the military. You go 397 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: to NFL games, it's all about the military. 398 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: I've never been into that either, because. 399 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: They believe, well in this case, they're taking what you 400 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: just said about the Dodgers and Latinos. They believe that 401 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: a fan base is very, very heavily pro military, and 402 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: they want to to that base by saluting soldiers have 403 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: a winning which is fine, but sometimes it happened three 404 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: times a game and I'm like, really, but it's nice. 405 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: But I liked the days where you just get's a 406 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: game sport and you showed up because they were you 407 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: to watch. 408 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: The team play. 409 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Right and and hopefully you had a good team, and 410 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: it was exciting. They might make the playoffs, they might 411 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: win the pennant. But it's like the old days when 412 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: there just used to be an organist at the baseball games. 413 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: But now you have to fill the scoreboard with all 414 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: sorts of distracting advertising and then videos and some girls 415 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: screaming at you in a stupid contest. 416 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: Kiss cam and kiss cam, ugly large. 417 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Some guy is trying to propose to his girlfriend, or 418 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I know, ugly large people slopping on each other. 419 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: I just it's America's need for constant entertainment. 420 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: It's just so all of it is so irritating, just 421 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: overwhelming the ears. I like going. 422 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: I like going to like college games, minor league baseball games, 423 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: spring training games, like like just real, real baseball. 424 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: Thing, Right, I go. 425 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: You go to Dodger Stadium after dealing with two hours 426 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: in traffic and then that parking lot, and then you 427 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: know you got, you got pounding music blaring and people's 428 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: screaming contests at you, And. 429 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't I go to RAMS games. There it's just 430 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: too many drunk people's and fans of the other team, 431 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: which annoys me. 432 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: Then there's that, Then there's the fistfights among drunks. 433 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: Two more quick trans stories. This one's really bizarre. Of course, 434 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: we all know about the bud light story, right, yeah, 435 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: Dylan Molvany Right, then they got okay, target. Do you 436 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: know what the Target story? Yeah? 437 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: I just found that today. 438 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: A term I've never heard before, tuck friendly women swimwear. 439 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: I didn't. 440 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: All right, wait, hold on, Deborah, what is tuck friendly 441 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: women's swimwear? 442 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 3: Let me google? 443 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: No, you net a pair? 444 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Can you consider it women's baby? 445 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? She doesn't need a pair, John, because I know 446 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to see what she knew. I know nothing 447 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: about that. 448 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: Would you like a pair? Well, I'm googling. You can 449 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: take that two ways. 450 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, they get introduced a line of talk friendly women's swimwear. 451 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: This would of course appeal to people with penises who 452 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: decide to identify as females. Okay, now, why would I 453 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: be wearing that? 454 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: Then that's a good question, why would you be? 455 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: But you need something I guess to tuck the. 456 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see the picture here packaging talk friendly construction 457 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: with extra crotch coverage. Right, So, because swimwear is often 458 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: tight and revealing, it's crowded in there, and some people 459 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: who now identify as female don't want to be seen 460 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: as necessarily are having, you know, a bulge. So I 461 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: guess this is a way of. 462 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: So that's a no no target. 463 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: Parent is backed off. They don't want what happened to 464 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: bud Light to happen to That's got to be a 465 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: small market. I mean, why did you bother? 466 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: Especially I read in the Southern stories that there didn't 467 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: go over. Well, yeah, they're either pulling it or they're 468 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: moving it way in the back. 469 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh, well, because June is Pride month. That's why a 470 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: lot of these stories are making those. 471 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: Does it have to be why is everything a month now? 472 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: Everything's a month now? 473 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: Yes, bud Light's down twenty eight percent, and they think 474 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: it's down twenty eight percent for the year. One of 475 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: the big brokerage firms says the businesses as sunk. 476 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: I think you should just remain neutral if you really 477 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: want to make money, don't take a side on either cell. Finally, 478 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 2: of course, I think the real legitimate issue in all 479 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: of this is people who participate in particularly like high 480 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: school and college sports, and they've well they've changed genders, 481 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: in particular, people who are biologically male now competing as females. 482 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: That to me is unfair. Even Caitlyn Jenner was ranting, 483 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: remember her, Oh yeah, no, it isn't fair. There was 484 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: apparently a transgender athlete. It took second place in a 485 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: track and field competition here in California, and it got 486 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: people pretty worked up because Athena Ryan uh Well was 487 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: biologically a male, and you can certainly have an advantage 488 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: being a male in sports. And for all the people 489 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: that want to boost women in sports, this seems like 490 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: a slap in the face. 491 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: It's it's completely unfair and there I've not heard one 492 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: argument that truly justifies doing this to women. This is 493 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: discrimination against against biological women. 494 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: One thing that fascinates me about this debate, which I 495 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: didn't see coming. We talked about this a while back 496 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: on the show with these radical feminists who don't like 497 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: this because they believe you are still a man. How 498 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: dare you impersonate as a woman. I didn't see that 499 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 2: coming because they're kind of left radical. 500 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're they're they're to protect women's rights and 501 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: advance women, right, these are fake accomplishments. 502 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what they think, right, That's what they think. 503 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: And they're still evil. I don't care if you think that. 504 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: They look at it as men now infiltrating and taking 505 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: away female accomplishments. 506 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should have seen that coming, but I didn't. 507 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 2: As long as we've done this show, I should have 508 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 2: seen that angle. How can you? 509 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: How can you possibly game this stuff out? I mean 510 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: almost every day I see something and it's like, well. 511 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: Who thought of this exactly? How did that angle? 512 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, in a thousand years, I wouldn't have thought 513 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: of this concept. And it's some raging controversy, and of 514 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: course you're you're everyone tries to bully people into having 515 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: an opinion, the correct opinion. 516 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: It's like, no, I don't I don't want to play. 517 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: I don't care how about this. I don't care about 518 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: a lot of these issues. I really don't. 519 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: We got more coming up, Johnny Ken k if I 520 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: am six forty were live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. 521 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kfi AI. 522 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this happened so early yesterday morning. I 523 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: think us on the West Coast weren't really aware that 524 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: it was a bit of a story for a while, Johnny, 525 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: you've heard of deep fakes. Apparently a fake image purporting 526 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: to show an explosion near the Pentagon went viral on 527 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: Twitter and apparently caused a little problem with the stock 528 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: market briefly as people were starting to panic because apparently 529 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: it had the old blue check mark. It's a verified account, right. 530 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: So this was a verified deep fake. 531 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: That's right some people. Yeah, there were photographs, it got 532 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: picked up. You ever hear a zero hedge. They went 533 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: with the story too large explosion near the Pentagon complex. 534 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: Even Bloomberg News Headlines posted that too, so because it 535 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: was on the Twitter feed, it gets picked up by 536 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: other news services. 537 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: I guess journalism. That's right out the story yourself. Just 538 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: print anything flying out of Twitter's bowels. 539 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: Shortly after the tweet, the anonymous Wall Street news blog 540 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: zero heads posted the fake Pentagon explosion image to the 541 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: accounts one point six million followers with the caption explosion 542 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: near Pentagon. They later, of course, deleted the tweet, probably 543 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: before most of us out here really got going in 544 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: the morning. It was already not a story, but fake 545 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: news organizations on Twitter that had purchased verified check marks 546 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: began to push the hoax. The account bloomberg Feed, which 547 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: is unaffiliated with Bloomberg, posting the conspiracy dah, there you go. 548 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: It's a good name, Bloomberg Feed. 549 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: That's what you could do. Now you can, you can. 550 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: You can get Twitter handles that look real, right, you 551 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 1: just play with the wording and it'll full ninety nine 552 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: percent of the public. 553 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: And speaking of deep fakes, apparently a man in Africa 554 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: shared fake porn pictures featuring these superpos those faces of 555 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: the president and the police minister. He's been arrested for 556 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: this cybercrime. Act of twenty twenty. The images of unknown 557 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: individuals are super imposed faces of the president, whose named 558 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 2: is Cyril Ramaphosa, and his wife, were shared with police 559 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: officers on social media. So I guess that's a crime 560 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: in that country to disseminate fakes, particularly by putting the 561 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: president of this country on uh and porn and porn images. 562 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: Here's a rare prediction. 563 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Uh oh, I think not too distant future, there's going 564 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: to something is going to happen. Something explosive is going 565 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: to happen based on a fake video or fake photo, 566 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: but like something that's going to bring harm something, because 567 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: it'll cause a reaction, overreaction before it can be before 568 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: it can be debuked, called out his front phoney, it'll 569 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: get out of hand. 570 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what. I just think that there's 571 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: going to be some big. 572 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the technology is so good, it's gonna fake 573 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: people out. Because, particularly as we've always said, if it 574 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: reinforces something you already believe or want to believe and 575 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: it looks really legit, you're gonna hop on it and 576 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: disseminate it and you think it'll be it'll get to 577 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: the point. 578 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that'll be kind of the next form 579 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: of terrorism is planted deep fake videos. 580 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: Then. 581 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, Russian television picked up the 582 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: Pentagon story too and started to disseminate it that there 583 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: was an explosion at the Pentagon, because that's good news 584 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: in Russia. 585 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: Right, So they probably created it. 586 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: They they have created the original think. 587 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, order who created it? 588 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: See? 589 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: Uh, well conways here hen No, he. 590 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 7: Know, Hey, when you drive by these strikers, I drive 591 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 7: by Disney and Warner Brothers, I say, with about ninety 592 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 7: eight percent certainty, I can tell which of those strikers 593 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 7: have ever written anything that is sold. No, you can't. 594 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 7: I haven't seen a a. It's a bald guy or 595 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 7: the bad ha A. Sure it that doesn't fit in shorts. 596 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 7: That guy's a writer. 597 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: That guy's a writer. 598 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 7: Everybody else is wrong. But you know, Mark Thompson is 599 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 7: with us. It's Thompson Tuesday, and that's kind of cool, right. 600 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 601 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 6: You know, I was at a restaurant because you hear 602 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 6: a lot about how the writer's strike is affecting the restaurants, 603 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 6: and you always talk about the laundrys of the dry clinics. 604 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 6: This restaurant is right across from where they are picketing. 605 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 6: Oh it's right here in Studio City, very busy. Then yes, 606 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: it's actually doing well. I just was encouraged to find out. 607 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, go ahead. 608 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 6: They can expand the picket line, is my point. They 609 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 6: can expand it to more restaurants. It's a plan I'm 610 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: trying to think of, you know, innovative strategy. 611 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: If I was running a restaurant, I would invite a 612 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: picket line. Thank you. Here's the point. 613 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Because there's a restaurant I go to down the road, 614 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: it is much more crowded since the strike started. I 615 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: noticed that, like can't fight a parking. 616 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 6: There's more walk in business now. 617 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 7: But you know what your old Your dad is old school, 618 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 7: like my dad and grandfather. When my grandfather would strike 619 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 7: against the gas company in Cleveland, they would break heads, 620 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 7: burned buildings, and like cars on fire, and they got 621 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 7: what they wanted about ten minutes. 622 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: Wow, these strikers out here are two kinds. 623 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 6: Are you advocating? 624 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it either way. 625 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 6: I'm just saying it sounded oddly like you were saying 626 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 6: either what you want to get your money. 627 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 7: I'm just saying the old striker, the old union guys 628 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 7: in nineteen fifty they got their way. Yeah, these guys 629 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 7: are walking around and you know one of them is 630 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 7: writing for you know, the New Wall in the Family 631 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 7: or Maud and I. You know, it doesn't really care 632 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 7: about money evidently. All right, you got a busheads to 633 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 7: get your way. I'm just saying that the old school 634 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 7: way got it done. Conway's old school, that's right through 635 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 7: your head. And then we have a Ford, you know Ford, right, 636 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 7: the motor company. They're reversing their ban on AM radios 637 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 7: and they're another car. 638 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: That's great. 639 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 7: And you know what that's for our listeners, banging on 640 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: the congressmen and women to do. 641 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, I'm sure they did. They did, all right. 642 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: Conway Tomes dig de Wong with you guys. 643 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show. 644 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI A m 645 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: six forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 646 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.