Speaker 1: Field cutsdown Miami Blood Run. What is up Dolphins? And
Speaker 1: welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins official podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: each and every day. How's it going everybody? It is Thursday.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to
Speaker 1: bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And
Speaker 1: on today's show, we're gonna hear from Dolphins defensive and
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, Mr Giggles himself. Great interview with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: defensive and new free agents signing this offseason. We got
Speaker 1: plenty to talk to you with Shack. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: a look back at the off season, speaking of Shack
Speaker 1: and some of the moves and the contributions that have
Speaker 1: been made from new players on your Miami Dolphins football team.
Speaker 1: Possible here from Coach Flores, a few players, and get
Speaker 1: the injury layers for Dolphins and Broncos on Sunday in Denver.
Speaker 1: All of that and more on this Thursday, November nineteenth
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Speaker 1: off this Thursday edition of the Drivetime Podcast with Brian Flores.
Speaker 1: Thursday morning media availability. The hot topic right now you're
Speaker 1: seeing all over social media and different sports avenues is
Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense and the Amiba package and the unique
Speaker 1: versatility and flexibility of this defense. Coach Flores was asked
Speaker 1: about the Amiba defense and it led into an answer
Speaker 1: that really just sparked the idea of creativity and how
Speaker 1: creativity is encouraged on this coaching staff with Josh Boyer,
Speaker 1: Chan Gailey, Danny Crossman and of course all of the
Speaker 1: position assistance. Here's Coach Flores on the defensive looks from
Speaker 1: Josh Boyer and creativity on his staff. I think Josh
Speaker 1: Boyer and our defensive staff they do a really nice
Speaker 1: job of trying to come up with different schemes ideas that,
Speaker 1: you know, to answer your question, we can handle, but
Speaker 1: we also feel like will be an issue for um,
Speaker 1: you know, for the offense. And again, we try to
Speaker 1: pre promote creativity here really on all three sides of
Speaker 1: the ball. An outlandish idea to some. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: I think we're we're we try to be open. I
Speaker 1: try to be open to any any idea from a
Speaker 1: football standpoint. If we can, if we can get it
Speaker 1: and we can execute it, we'll give it a shot.
Speaker 1: And that may be different from week to week, and
Speaker 1: it should be because when everyone gets to film and
Speaker 1: I'm sure people have seen what we did last week,
Speaker 1: and they've seen what we've done in previous weeks, and
Speaker 1: they prepare for him, you try to give him something different.
Speaker 1: I think every team tries to do that. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think our staff on all three sides. Chan obviously offensively,
Speaker 1: Danny and the kicking game, and Josh defensively, we try
Speaker 1: to I try to let them be as creative as
Speaker 1: they can be, not try to hold him back from anything.
Speaker 1: But obviously we gotta be able to execute. And how
Speaker 1: about some hockey talk from a guy that hasn't watched
Speaker 1: a game of hockey and a decade. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's been a long time, but the Florida
Speaker 1: Panthers and I am all about South Florida sports these days.
Speaker 1: Made some big time news when they hired assistant general
Speaker 1: manager Brett Peterson to that position, the NHL's first assistant
Speaker 1: black general manager. He went to Boston College coach Brian Flores,
Speaker 1: his alma mater, and coach talked about that move and
Speaker 1: his support for South Florida sports. Apparently, he could not
Speaker 1: find his Florida Panthers hat this morning. I was looking
Speaker 1: for my Florida Panthers hat this morning. I couldn't find it. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Brett and we went to school together. Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a smart, talented Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they got a great higher there. And there
Speaker 1: matc Allwell, someone I've I've been in contact with. Also, Look,
Speaker 1: you know I support you know, the teams down here
Speaker 1: in South Florida. And yeah, been a couple of Panthers games,
Speaker 1: looking forward to going a few more. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: have all my support and I'm excited about the direction
Speaker 1: that a couple more here for coach, and we'll do
Speaker 1: this one with Kyle Van Noy. Coach was asked about
Speaker 1: his availability for the game on Sunday and his overall
Speaker 1: health and he did talk about Preston Williams and Miles
Speaker 1: Gascon as well. He just mentioned both those guys are working.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get as hard as they can to
Speaker 1: get back. The same as true for Kyle Van Noy.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to play this audio because he talked
Speaker 1: about the role of Van Noel on his defense a
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, Kyle, Kyle's like like all the
Speaker 1: other guys, He's doing everything he can to get back
Speaker 1: as soon as he can. Um. But we've got guys.
Speaker 1: He plays a number of roles linebacker, defensive, Van he's inside,
Speaker 1: he's outside, Russia and coverage. So it's almost you gotta
Speaker 1: get a couple of guys to say you're a Kyle
Speaker 1: on this play, You'll play this coles On role on
Speaker 1: his play. So it's by committee, and we've got we've
Speaker 1: got a few guys, number of guys, whether it's Commo,
Speaker 1: whether it's Skinkal, whether it's Ago Vaughan. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got a few different guys who can who can
Speaker 1: feel those roles U you know, in practice and you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully not, but you know, if if we had to
Speaker 1: go that route in the game, and I think our
Speaker 1: guys are ready to step up if that's the situation's
Speaker 1: gonna do everything you candidate to be ready to play.
Speaker 1: It's important to him and hopefully we're getting back National
Speaker 1: Football League. It's nix and boozes happening everywhere, but we're
Speaker 1: not going to put up again. Nothing is more important
Speaker 1: in health and safety, more players and want gonna put
Speaker 1: anyone in a situation where they get doing further harm.
Speaker 1: And speaking of that defense, if you guys read the
Speaker 1: Blitz this morning, we talked on the stat of the
Speaker 1: Day about Miami's tackling at that safety position between Bobby
Speaker 1: McCay and Eric Rowe, and I was able to confirm
Speaker 1: this both on Pro Football Focus as well as Pro
Speaker 1: Football Reference, and actually asked Bobby yesterday on the podcast
Speaker 1: how much pride they take in their tackling and if
Speaker 1: it's something they have to continue to work on or
Speaker 1: just just where some of the pillars and some of
Speaker 1: the staples of teams that are good tackling teams. And
Speaker 1: he talked on the podcast about how that's a staple
Speaker 1: of this defense, that's something we work on not just
Speaker 1: in training camp, but every single day, each and every day.
Speaker 1: Some might say and so Bobby answered that question on
Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of Drive Time, But coach was asked
Speaker 1: about the growth and maturation and communication between Eric Row
Speaker 1: and Bobby McCain in this defense at their new ish positions.
Speaker 1: I mean it was last season, but still for guys
Speaker 1: that have been pros for as long as those guys
Speaker 1: have to make a position change one year after the fact,
Speaker 1: give or take, you want to check that progress. Coach
Speaker 1: Flora has talked about both of those guys kind of
Speaker 1: coming together, growing together, but also the entire secondary as
Speaker 1: a whole and their communication skill set and how it's
Speaker 1: proved or paid dividends. I should say for that veteran
Speaker 1: group on the back end, they've grown together over the
Speaker 1: course of the season. The communication has gotten better week
Speaker 1: to week, not just between those two but everyone in
Speaker 1: the secondary, um second level, the linebacker position, the line,
Speaker 1: really across the board from communication standpoint, But you know,
Speaker 1: obviously it starts with those two. You know, at the
Speaker 1: satan position, you know you're really talking to, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously each other, with the corners, the linebackers, when you
Speaker 1: get down on the front, you know, I know, Bobby's
Speaker 1: been down there quite a bit, so as row, you
Speaker 1: end up talking to some defensive ends, so they're communications
Speaker 1: vital and I think they've both done a good job
Speaker 1: from that staning point, and just as far as their play,
Speaker 1: I think it's been solid also. And you heard him
Speaker 1: talk about communicating to defensive vents. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a pretty cool note there, because you do sometimes see
Speaker 1: Eric Rowe come down and sneak inside the outside linebacker
Speaker 1: even and what I've I've seen called a marble point front.
Speaker 1: Not that that matters to anybody out there, but I've
Speaker 1: seen it called that on different schemes. I don't know
Speaker 1: what coach Floras calls it, but where you sneak the
Speaker 1: safety down inside the outside linebacker, the stand up linebacker
Speaker 1: to kind of take that sea gap on in the
Speaker 1: running game. We've seen Bobby McCain come down there and
Speaker 1: blitz off the edge and and go up on the line,
Speaker 1: screamage and fall back into the deep single high safety look.
Speaker 1: So plenty of can fusion, plenty of different looks they
Speaker 1: try to throw out the posing quarterbacks, and I think
Speaker 1: it's working pretty well so far with Rowe and McCann
Speaker 1: on that back end. And so that you have Brian
Speaker 1: flores Is Thursday morning, November nineteen. Media availability here on
Speaker 1: the Drivetime podcast part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network.
Speaker 1: I referenced the Blitz article from Thursday morning. I want
Speaker 1: to go back to the top news article on Wednesday
Speaker 1: afternoon and kind of one of the things I wanted
Speaker 1: to look at in that particular article was the import
Speaker 1: of contributions the Dolphins had this offseason, right, because we
Speaker 1: all knew Dolphins entered the draft of four team picks.
Speaker 1: They wind up making eleven after signing ten free agents.
Speaker 1: They made a draft day trade for Matt Breeder, they
Speaker 1: signed Cavon Fraser. So all things told, you wind up
Speaker 1: with twenty three player editions just in that off season
Speaker 1: player acquisition period. And that doesn't include undrafted free agents,
Speaker 1: doesn't include like a Savan Akhmed, for instance, who was
Speaker 1: picked up mid season, or a Lynn Bowden who was
Speaker 1: acquired in September. So just looking at those players in
Speaker 1: their production, here's what the Dolphin scott out of those
Speaker 1: guys five thousand, five hundred two snaps played. We're just
Speaker 1: nine games in five thousand, five hundred snaps, seven touchdowns,
Speaker 1: fourteen sacks, six takeaways, two hundred forty tackles, and here's
Speaker 1: the big kicker. Here's why you only have seven touchdowns
Speaker 1: because a lot of those resources were put into the
Speaker 1: offensive line, right Austin Jackson, Eric Flowers, Ted Carress, Robert Hunt,
Speaker 1: Solomon Kinley. Five new players on the offensive line. That's
Speaker 1: where a lot of your offensive resources went. Outside of
Speaker 1: two a Tonga Byloa and a couple of running backs
Speaker 1: as well with Matt Brita Jordan Howard, the offensive line
Speaker 1: was the point of emphasis for the offense. This's offseason.
Speaker 1: So those guys, those five newcomers, not including Jesse Davis,
Speaker 1: who's kind of the old guard around here, the old hat.
Speaker 1: Those five new guys one thousand, one hundred seven snaps
Speaker 1: and passed. And that's in past protection, I should say,
Speaker 1: not run blocking, just in pass blocking. They've allowed pressure
Speaker 1: on four point five percent of those collective pass rush snaps,
Speaker 1: fifty one quarterback pressures on one thousand, one hundred and
Speaker 1: seven pass blocking snaps. You talk about snap to release
Speaker 1: time for both Ryan Fitzpatrick and to a tongue by
Speaker 1: lower the ball comes out. That's how this offensive system
Speaker 1: is designed. So what kind of guys do you want
Speaker 1: to put up front guys that can hold the point
Speaker 1: and get that clean pocket for two, and for fits
Speaker 1: in the quarterback in the offense in general, to get
Speaker 1: the football out of their hand quickly. That big size,
Speaker 1: that big girth upfront certainly makes things harder on defenses
Speaker 1: to to be able to slip past. And whether it's
Speaker 1: one gap penetration or running games up front and trying
Speaker 1: to get by that big, thick offensive line, especially on
Speaker 1: the interior, that makes it difficult, especially in that RPO game,
Speaker 1: the inside zone games. Some of the stuff we see
Speaker 1: what the Dolphins getting the football out of their hands
Speaker 1: quickly and trying to kind of press the holes of
Speaker 1: running back and cut backside. We've seen Miles Gascon savan
Speaker 1: Akma do just that. So these offensive line fitting the system,
Speaker 1: fitting the style of the offense, especially now I think
Speaker 1: with quarterback to a tongue about lower back there with
Speaker 1: the the kind of introduction sort of speak. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been it was, it was there before, but a
Speaker 1: little more looks with the RPO game fits up well.
Speaker 1: So this offseason the vision of Brian flu Is and
Speaker 1: Chris Career coming together to produce those stats. But it's
Speaker 1: not just the players that were added in that portion
Speaker 1: of the draft or in free agency. It's players from
Speaker 1: all sorts of different acquisition walks of life, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Adam Shaheim, a July trade acquisition, has a couple of touchdowns,
Speaker 1: is doing great work in the run blocking game. We
Speaker 1: talked about Lynn Bowden, acquired for a draft pick in
Speaker 1: September with Las Vegas Raiders. He's had some looks in
Speaker 1: the wildcat and some receiver options and some screen passes
Speaker 1: that type of thing. Talked about Savanahman eighty six rushing
Speaker 1: yards on Sunday. Benito Jones has a big stop in
Speaker 1: the game. We go back to last season. Zach Seeler
Speaker 1: mac Hollins picked up off waivers in December. Mac Hollins,
Speaker 1: for my money, is one of the best gunners in
Speaker 1: the entire national football that He has been a monster
Speaker 1: on special teams and not to mention when Preston Williams
Speaker 1: comes out of lineup. We talked about adapting to your
Speaker 1: personnel last week on the podcast. Mac Hollins goes into
Speaker 1: the game and fulfills kind of a quasi pseudo tight
Speaker 1: end role where he comes in tight to the formation,
Speaker 1: works across the formation, and picks up the backside, the
Speaker 1: backside force defender in the running game. So he's doing
Speaker 1: all kinds of different roles on this team for a
Speaker 1: guy that you picked up off the street. In last December,
Speaker 1: Zach Seeler gets the contract extension after beating the crab
Speaker 1: out of offensive lines basically for the past twelve or
Speaker 1: thirteen games he's been in Miami Dolphin. It's been it's
Speaker 1: been fun to watch this team come together and this
Speaker 1: the singular vision, doesn't matter how you get here. First
Speaker 1: round draft pick, seventh round draft pick, undrafted, acquired, otherwise,
Speaker 1: these guys are are paying big dividends. Whether it's Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Ogba with the eight sacks or two a toungle by
Speaker 1: low of the fifth pick in the draft throwing five
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, no turnovers and his three starts, or a
Speaker 1: guy like I mentioned, like Adam Sheheen brought over for
Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick in July, catching touchdowns, doing
Speaker 1: work in the pass blocking game and run blocking game.
Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch the collective of this team
Speaker 1: come together. And you know, I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: on my walk into the to the podcast studio this morning.
Speaker 1: It's not always about who stacks up the most stats.
Speaker 1: Do you make a big a did you help the
Speaker 1: team win the football game? Like I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Patrick Laird in in particular his seventeen yard rush on
Speaker 1: third and seven. It's one play. You might forget it
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, but that put the
Speaker 1: game away. That was what gave the Dolphins offense another series,
Speaker 1: another set of downs to continue running clock off in
Speaker 1: that Chargers game, and it essentially put the game away
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. So it's not about the collection of stats.
Speaker 1: It's about fifty three guys making enough plays and when
Speaker 1: you can get Patrick Lair the guy that was I
Speaker 1: mean he came into the game behind with Savona Ackman
Speaker 1: DeAndre Washington on the running back depth chart. Achmed played
Speaker 1: the majority of the snaps, but Patrick Laird finds a
Speaker 1: way to make an impact of there. He was on
Speaker 1: the punt block team and they got the punt blocked.
Speaker 1: So I just it's fun to me to watch all
Speaker 1: fifty three guys find contributions on this team. And that's
Speaker 1: been the case this year so far. Speaking of offseason
Speaker 1: acquisitions and guys the Dolphins brought in, Shack Lawson was
Speaker 1: one of the premier signings of the off season for
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, coming down from the Buffalo Bill's former
Speaker 1: first round draft pick. I had a chance to chat
Speaker 1: with Shack on Wednesday for of this Thursday edition of
Speaker 1: the Drift Time podcast, and it was fantastic. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and play this for you guys, because
Speaker 1: he is a riot character. We all knew that, but
Speaker 1: he also divulged to me kind of where that personality
Speaker 1: came from. He said, at first he was a bit
Speaker 1: of a quiet kid, but we all in you know.
Speaker 1: Brian Flores had a mention in his press conference this
Speaker 1: morning we didn't cover here in the podcast where he
Speaker 1: was asked about some early influences on his life, and
Speaker 1: Flow basically said, we've all had to overcome some type
Speaker 1: of adversity in our life. No one's is more important
Speaker 1: than someone else's, which I thought was a great quote.
Speaker 1: But Shack had some significant adversity. He lost his father
Speaker 1: at fifteen years old, and he he talked about on
Speaker 1: the podcast how that was kind of the moment where
Speaker 1: he decided, I'm gonna have a good example for my
Speaker 1: siblings and try to show them there's no bad days
Speaker 1: and I thought that was a really cool portion of
Speaker 1: this interview. So let's go ahead and get to Shack
Speaker 1: last him talk about the highs and the lows, the laughs,
Speaker 1: the sad times, and the ability to overcome adversity, how
Speaker 1: he gets himself ready on game day. We talked about
Speaker 1: bubble gum, meditation, all kinds of stuff. Here is Shack Lawson,
Speaker 1: a man of many words, and I am so excited
Speaker 1: now to be joined by my guest today Dolphins Defensive
Speaker 1: and Shack Lawson. Shack, how you doing, man? How are
Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing fantastic. You know, five game winning
Speaker 1: Street can't complain. It makes my job easier when you
Speaker 1: guys are out there getting the job done, and it
Speaker 1: makes it a lot of fun to watch you guys
Speaker 1: so much appreciated my friend. Yes, sir, the fun is
Speaker 1: always and winning. So you know what else is fun?
Speaker 1: I gotta know. So Travis Kelsey had his dating show,
Speaker 1: How do we get love? Shack off the ground? See, man,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been thinking about that. I'm bad you
Speaker 1: asked me that. Man, I've been trying to look like
Speaker 1: anybody because like I got a great personality, I've got
Speaker 1: a great heart, you know. So I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: a communication major too, So I feel like I'm ready
Speaker 1: for the being on TV and I want my own
Speaker 1: I want my own show, just like Travis Kelsey. Man,
Speaker 1: I want to work on that. So if anybody out
Speaker 1: there hear me today, man, I really would love to
Speaker 1: get my Oh show man, it would be a great show.
Speaker 1: Well let's let's let's start. Let's start developing it right now.
Speaker 1: What's the premise, like, what's what's the general theme of
Speaker 1: the show. What are we what are we going for? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I had a little theme like Travis Kelsey. Look,
Speaker 1: look look look dating show man. You know, hey, ever
Speaker 1: got me? I haven't found me a girlfriend or anything
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so me going out there, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to experience and day and and you know, just
Speaker 1: it have fun with it doing it too. But it's
Speaker 1: serious time. It's a serious thing because busically I got
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship, get married, get old and
Speaker 1: things like that. But uh, I've been thinking about that.
Speaker 1: I really want to do it so bad, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I would be a great host because I'm
Speaker 1: a character. I'm very funny and and it would just
Speaker 1: be great. Man. I could just see myself going so correct.
Speaker 1: So how many understand the show here? So Travis Kelsey show,
Speaker 1: he's trying to find himself a girlfriend or a day.
Speaker 1: Is that how it works? Yeah? Yeah, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: That was with me, It was I think I was
Speaker 1: counting something similar that. But yeah, me, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find you know what I'm saying, a girlfriend somebody gate
Speaker 1: that's going on my show. I want to be about.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like, you know, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: your example or flavor flav back. Yeah, I'm similar liked,
Speaker 1: but not too not too bad, you know, I still
Speaker 1: gotta keep it p G. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But uh, keep it like that. But something something like that,
Speaker 1: you know from you know, they always say you find
Speaker 1: your your wife and stuff in college, like, but I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have climpsing three and a half years. I did
Speaker 1: not find my wife or girlfriend. So hopefully this if
Speaker 1: I can get this show off the ground great and
Speaker 1: get this going, this would be a great opportunity. You
Speaker 1: gotta find you gotta avoid the I love you know,
Speaker 1: I love New York, you know, contesting on the show,
Speaker 1: because they might be after their own nefarious purposes there,
Speaker 1: so you gotta keep an eye out for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. I definitely yea,
Speaker 1: I'm not to change that. Yeah, it ain't gonna Yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure I get that right. Hey, let let me
Speaker 1: let me give you some Let me give you some
Speaker 1: some hope here. I actually met my wife, and no
Speaker 1: one can ever believe this. I met my wife on
Speaker 1: tender Man. Can you believe that? Yeah? Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: both we were we were both in it for the
Speaker 1: right reasons. We weren't trying to do the whole you know,
Speaker 1: we were trying to meet somebody and it worked out
Speaker 1: for us. Well that's great. That's great, man, that's great.
Speaker 1: That's great. How long this will go? Shoot? Shoot, we
Speaker 1: we've been together for about five years now. But I
Speaker 1: met her and we we talked for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and then we finally decided to meet up. And we
Speaker 1: had to like exchange Facebook information so we can make
Speaker 1: sure we both were real and all that stuff. It
Speaker 1: was kind of weird, but hey, it worked, man, that's
Speaker 1: the first there you go, perfect perfect. So you mentioned
Speaker 1: your time back in college at Clemson, and I want
Speaker 1: to go back to that here in a second, but
Speaker 1: I want to go further back beyond that. First, I
Speaker 1: read again. I did some research on your shack, trying
Speaker 1: to find out some stuff about your your life and personality.
Speaker 1: And man, you're you're a fascinating dude. And and obviously
Speaker 1: the Dating show certainly speaks to that as well. But
Speaker 1: you spent some time at Hart Growth Military School, and
Speaker 1: you didn't qualify originally academically at Clemson, and Dabbo Sweeney
Speaker 1: had a quote and now this had you were literally
Speaker 1: in tears. What did that moment and that kind of
Speaker 1: learning experience do for us for you as far as
Speaker 1: like motivation for your career Shack? Oh yeah, Man. When
Speaker 1: I got the call, man, it was weird. I had
Speaker 1: a weird like because I was in row at Clemson,
Speaker 1: but at the time they told me how to leave,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of like you said, I was
Speaker 1: in tears, man, I really thought it was over for
Speaker 1: me at the time. I'm not gonna get qualified. I
Speaker 1: don't have to go to military school, and you know
Speaker 1: how military school to paying out. There's some people, some
Speaker 1: people can barely do military school. So I was thinking, man,
Speaker 1: this might be open for me. You might have to
Speaker 1: go back home and just do what what people do
Speaker 1: at home. And so but I knew, I knew, I
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to do something way just bigger than
Speaker 1: just being back home. I knew, I knew I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play in the NFL, I had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get a college education, and Clemson could be
Speaker 1: the first one in my place, my college, I mean
Speaker 1: my family, first one in my family to go to
Speaker 1: college and or even graduating high school type. So I
Speaker 1: knew it was way bigger than bigger than me. So
Speaker 1: I knew the heart they made me a man. I'm
Speaker 1: glad I didn't go to the round m most freshmans.
Speaker 1: You go straight to college, you get throwing the fire
Speaker 1: like me better, like getting up from workouts in the morning,
Speaker 1: was nothing like making sure I was organized and things
Speaker 1: like that. It was it really want a problem for
Speaker 1: me as a freshman coming to college because I already
Speaker 1: had that that mindset when I was doing the military life.
Speaker 1: Because you wouldn't just going to school, you were doing
Speaker 1: military life, going to school, playing football, You're doing all
Speaker 1: three of that. So, I mean that was just a
Speaker 1: great experience. Man, I never take this away from anything.
Speaker 1: People every day that that that heard gare experience made
Speaker 1: me the man I am today. That that had to
Speaker 1: have helped prepare you for a Brian Flores program and
Speaker 1: playing under Brian Flora's right. Oh yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Man,
Speaker 1: I feel like every level of ball I'm play that. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just been a tough program. Just scrust the light.
Speaker 1: So Clemson was something similar like that, going up buff
Speaker 1: was like that. Um I even had the crazy coach
Speaker 1: from Hard Knocks one year from the rounds Hard Knocks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so I just I have experienced a lot of man,
Speaker 1: So I mean that that help me. That helped me
Speaker 1: a lot for flow program because I know how I
Speaker 1: know how you'd like to run his things and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's scriptly business. Yeah shock. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's no easy way to transition to this next topic,
Speaker 1: but I guess I'll try. And I know that coach
Speaker 1: Flora's recently, you know, had lost his mother to cancer
Speaker 1: and that was something he talked about openly. The other
Speaker 1: day was my five year anniversary of me losing my mother.
Speaker 1: So you're in good company for my friend. And the
Speaker 1: next subject again a tough one to talk about. But
Speaker 1: on that story on the Athletic, you spoke about losing
Speaker 1: your father at a young age and kind of having
Speaker 1: to step up and to fill some responsibilities of taking
Speaker 1: care of your siblings things like that. What would you
Speaker 1: say that adversity did to kind of help shape shape
Speaker 1: the man that you are today. Man, that adversity, man,
Speaker 1: you know that, you know they said everything happened for
Speaker 1: a reason. You know, that was a tragic part of
Speaker 1: my life when I got the news and and found
Speaker 1: out everything that happened, um, and then the fact that
Speaker 1: somebody new things like that. But man, it's just it
Speaker 1: was tough for times. Man, it was. It was tough
Speaker 1: because I used to work up very day thinking like,
Speaker 1: i'mna lee my brothers, sisters in the right directions. So
Speaker 1: getting up every morning thinking about that, that was the
Speaker 1: hard part of my life. I didn't want them to
Speaker 1: see no bad signs, No, not the wrong way to
Speaker 1: do it. So man, I just I just took the
Speaker 1: approach as a fifteen year old man, it was my
Speaker 1: time step up because my mom was in the hospital
Speaker 1: for people don't know that my mom was like in
Speaker 1: the hospital for five five months because she was in
Speaker 1: the car accident to recovery. So me and my sister
Speaker 1: had played a part of because we just had a
Speaker 1: We just had one brother just literally born like one
Speaker 1: years old. So that that just made me realize, you
Speaker 1: can't tell you life granted, man, everything is the point.
Speaker 1: Like at the time, before they even happened, man, I
Speaker 1: was like that led me to going hard grade. I
Speaker 1: had bad grades. I was a kid and getting in trouble.
Speaker 1: A kid is hanging around with the wrong card. After that,
Speaker 1: that that turned my whole life around, Like I looked
Speaker 1: at life different from that as parents that I went through. Uh,
Speaker 1: from the first year, I had moved to taste in life.
Speaker 1: Now see that that to me makes the and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've seen them all over social media. Your your
Speaker 1: teammates talk about it. You obviously live at check the laugh, man,
Speaker 1: the the laugh that is super contagious, whether or not
Speaker 1: someone knows you or season on the video. I think
Speaker 1: that hearing that part of your story and seeing you
Speaker 1: be able to come out on the other side and
Speaker 1: be the happy, jovial, go lucky guy that you are.
Speaker 1: It's it's inspiring, man, It's it's cool to watch and
Speaker 1: like like you. Like you said, there was many days
Speaker 1: where I woke up thinking, like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can do this anymore, because, like you know, that's
Speaker 1: a big part of my life. It's now gone. But
Speaker 1: you fight through your persevere and to see you having
Speaker 1: fun and doing what you love, man, it's it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1: It's the only way I can put it. And so
Speaker 1: just just kudos to you for that, man, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you of course. So, uh, I want to stay
Speaker 1: on that topic of the laugh And I had to
Speaker 1: ask coach about this morning. I wanted to ask him.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a serious guy. Youah, you see
Speaker 1: him around, he's he's usually got you know, a pretty
Speaker 1: a pretty serious look on his face. And I asked
Speaker 1: him about what shocks personality does to kind of help
Speaker 1: keep the mood light around the building. And he said this,
Speaker 1: He said, they're young guys. They want to have fun,
Speaker 1: they want to laugh, and they joke around with each other,
Speaker 1: and they joke around with the coaches and we joke
Speaker 1: back and Shock is full of life. Shack's got a
Speaker 1: great laugh apparently, and he's a lot of fun to
Speaker 1: be around, and you don't want to temper that as
Speaker 1: a coach. You want to let him be himself and
Speaker 1: bring his energy to the rest of the group. They
Speaker 1: feed off of it, and I think it makes us
Speaker 1: a better team. So how do you respond to that quote?
Speaker 1: And also how do you flip the switch from a
Speaker 1: guy that's losing joking around to business. Oh? Man, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a time and a place you got. You gotta
Speaker 1: have a switch, you know. Um, that's why, man, it's
Speaker 1: important to get winds throughout the week. Man wins every Sunday.
Speaker 1: It's a reason. So nobody want to be mad. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that's the time the place to be serious, you know
Speaker 1: when when when I'm on the lines, it's all business.
Speaker 1: At the same time, you gotta have fun doing it.
Speaker 1: I've been on this league my fifth year and I've
Speaker 1: been around players and myself like, this league can scratch
Speaker 1: you out if you let the league scratch because you've
Speaker 1: got too much how you played. So I mean I
Speaker 1: just said back man, like I'm saying, man, all the
Speaker 1: adversity of face man and having an opportunity to wake
Speaker 1: up every morning to do what I love. Man. I
Speaker 1: gotta smell man, I just I gotta spell man, and
Speaker 1: I always lad be be the guy. Just you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Bring joy it, man, because it could
Speaker 1: be the up, it could be the opposite around man.
Speaker 1: I always try to put myself and other people's shoes, man,
Speaker 1: if I wasn't in the NFL. So that's how I
Speaker 1: live every day. And I always keep a smile on
Speaker 1: my face. We've got Dolphins defensive and Shack Lawson here
Speaker 1: on the Drive Time podcast part of the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: podcast network, and speaking of serious and business time, your
Speaker 1: defensive line coach is all business man, Marry and Hobby.
Speaker 1: I talked about Brian Flores being serious. Mary and Hobby
Speaker 1: scares me. I see that massive human being walking around
Speaker 1: the facility. But you and him go back way back
Speaker 1: to Clemson, right, yes, yes, yes, sir, yes, sir man
Speaker 1: he um he was there my first year when I
Speaker 1: got to Clemson. And then when you said that, when
Speaker 1: how you said how I scare you? The cop in
Speaker 1: college was so crazy, man, it was words man like,
Speaker 1: it was bad. So he kind of cooled down. But man,
Speaker 1: that that played a road I came and you know,
Speaker 1: I had a great relationship with him, Kristen, Crispin and
Speaker 1: Tankishly at the time, people didn't notice, Uh, cour J
Speaker 1: Tanks was a part of the team, but people didn't notice. Man,
Speaker 1: me and him was roommates, are hardred like, so we
Speaker 1: had a relationships. I had a great relationship down here
Speaker 1: and then when I was playing those guys two times
Speaker 1: a year in the division, Man, I know these guys
Speaker 1: work hard. Man. I knew Flow had those guys in
Speaker 1: the right direction, and I just wanted to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. I do want to come back to
Speaker 1: that decision to sign with Miami. But first you mentioned
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins. Man, has he always been this big of
Speaker 1: a goofball and did he may be kind of learning
Speaker 1: from you that one year at Clemson back in I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he always been a goopball. He at the
Speaker 1: first than he really didn't say much, but he started
Speaker 1: opening up, you know. Uh, But Kristen was always the coupball,
Speaker 1: big kid. Man. He like me, Man like, I guess
Speaker 1: we've feed off each other for real, for real, because
Speaker 1: you gotta get gone laughing and joking around, but you know,
Speaker 1: like that we can get serious. But I mean having
Speaker 1: him around, man, playing with him with campus is great. Man.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned coming out of Clemson going to the
Speaker 1: NFL draft first round pick Shack Lawson to Buffalo now
Speaker 1: in Miami, and at the scouting combine shock back in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: you said your best rush move was the inside spin.
Speaker 1: Is that still the case? It ain't did it? So
Speaker 1: he did it? Hey, I ain't did it. I think
Speaker 1: I did a one a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: I think I had hurt my growing I stopped doing it.
Speaker 1: But oh man, oh no, I need to get back
Speaker 1: to that move. Man. You can put me another move
Speaker 1: back to my head. I need to get back to
Speaker 1: you know, that changed the game up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But man, I'm about to get back to that movie.
Speaker 1: Thanks for reminding me for that. Hey, if I see
Speaker 1: a sock or a quarterback knocked down on the inside spin,
Speaker 1: I'm taking credit for that thing. Baby. Hey man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Man, it's all you. It's all you
Speaker 1: out there. Uh, speaking of credit for sacks, another teammate
Speaker 1: enjoying a lot of success of yours right now up
Speaker 1: front is a manual ag ball and one of my
Speaker 1: favorite clips from the off season. Was you talking about
Speaker 1: how heavy is ff and hands are? That was hilarious
Speaker 1: to me. But earlier this week he talked to us
Speaker 1: about putting in more time and effort money into taking
Speaker 1: care of his body. And I read in a story
Speaker 1: last year on The Athletic that you took up meditation.
Speaker 1: Are you still doing that? Yeah? I'm bad meditating yet. Man.
Speaker 1: I started off this ship this season not meditating, but man,
Speaker 1: I've been back on it, uh lately. Yeah, Man, you
Speaker 1: gotta take care of your body. Man's this is a
Speaker 1: long season, man, with with a lot going on. How
Speaker 1: this season is this ship? Man, it's just a little
Speaker 1: at different seasons. So you gotta take more instecure of
Speaker 1: your body and things like that. What does your meditation
Speaker 1: routine look like? Like? I don't really know much about it,
Speaker 1: Like I know, there's a mantra whisper to yourself. Look
Speaker 1: see okay, okay, So Monday I just cleaned out my
Speaker 1: I mean Monday, you know, I'm going out and just
Speaker 1: having my sub time being the dark by myself, listen
Speaker 1: to some music. But I'm planning out the week. I'm
Speaker 1: planning out the week that I'm seeing. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: see how my Monday gonna go throughout this day Tuesday,
Speaker 1: just planning out my my week before I get there.
Speaker 1: You know what, what the things I gotta do, the
Speaker 1: things I gotta do to uh get better at and
Speaker 1: then how do meditate throughout the week? What I gotta
Speaker 1: do during the week. And I meant to take about
Speaker 1: the game and visualized plays I can meet and that
Speaker 1: they're a big successful with me last year because I
Speaker 1: was saying, I mean seeing stuff before for happening, but
Speaker 1: I was just re lax, calm. You know, you's always
Speaker 1: you got that time by yourself. Man. It's just it's
Speaker 1: good for your body. Man. It's good stretch for your body,
Speaker 1: right right, especially nowadays when you're always around a phone
Speaker 1: or a computer or TV and you're always kind of engaged.
Speaker 1: To be able to turn that stuff off and just
Speaker 1: have a moment of silence. I think it's invaluable. That's
Speaker 1: that's cool to hear, especially when you talk about envisioning
Speaker 1: the rest of your week, that that gives you a
Speaker 1: good leg up on things. Absolutely. Let's circle back now
Speaker 1: to something you mentioned about playing this team twice a
Speaker 1: year and seeing coach Flores. There was an article before
Speaker 1: free agency, which you would of course wind up signing
Speaker 1: here with the Dolphins. But how, if at all, would
Speaker 1: you say that your perspective and expectation of what the
Speaker 1: Dolphins might be this year when you signed back in March,
Speaker 1: has changed now here in November. Oh no, it's the same.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's on the tenses to win the women
Speaker 1: and it's so young team and be a part of
Speaker 1: a great y s. It's been going good. It's been
Speaker 1: going good. Um, yeah, it's been going good lately. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, just just move and take a long week
Speaker 1: at a time and winning. You went in and you're
Speaker 1: in South Korta, man, you can't get done better than there.
Speaker 1: That's damn right. My first year in South Orda. I
Speaker 1: love it down here. Even with now they want to
Speaker 1: do much just just the weather alone, it's perfect. But
Speaker 1: u you know, speaking of good weather, and you talked
Speaker 1: about it earlier. You did, of course come over from
Speaker 1: Buffalo and back in week two, Shock Tradavious White was
Speaker 1: asked at a press conference, what's the biggest difference in
Speaker 1: the locker room without Shock being there? And he said,
Speaker 1: there's a lot more bubble gum in the locker room.
Speaker 1: What's your go to gum man? Hey, what's the go
Speaker 1: the big boss man? They had gave me something that's crazy,
Speaker 1: buff gave me a box of that. Uh it's the
Speaker 1: big boxes you what's the bottle guns man? They got
Speaker 1: you got a little plain yellow flavor then, but you
Speaker 1: got two other flavors with like the multiple flavors in.
Speaker 1: So I used to keep the whole look. I used
Speaker 1: to have about is going to my party, going practice
Speaker 1: some things like that. So man, I used to think
Speaker 1: they just keeping that keeping that job strong at all times.
Speaker 1: So you can talk that trash man. I love it. Uh.
Speaker 1: But but before you got into a couple more questions
Speaker 1: for your hair shock, before you got you know, to
Speaker 1: the football realm, you were kind of a monster on
Speaker 1: the hardwood. We talked about this back in March when
Speaker 1: you signed about being teammates with DeAndre Hopkins. But I
Speaker 1: have to imagine you would compare your game to the
Speaker 1: guy you're named after, right, Shaquille O'Neil. Is that not
Speaker 1: who you're named after? Oh? Yeah, I'm named after him, yes, sir, Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that is that your player? Your player comparison? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially for the basketball platy I used to mark my
Speaker 1: game just like himp is Uh, that's why my dad
Speaker 1: gave me a name and stuff like that. They would
Speaker 1: be Cello O'Neil fans as had an opportunity coming out
Speaker 1: talking with Shaquille O'Neil um about how I got my
Speaker 1: name because I I waited like three days after I
Speaker 1: was born to get a name, and I got shocked
Speaker 1: and I'm told shack about So we end up connecting
Speaker 1: with each other and I'm having a great talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still if I from Tom here, from Tom to
Speaker 1: Tom know. So you just you throw that drop step
Speaker 1: on and slam that thing down. I'm picturing you get
Speaker 1: getting the ball in the policy throwing the drop step
Speaker 1: and hospital take it serious. I'll pull it up on
Speaker 1: YouTube and we'll get it out to the fans here shortly. Jack,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time today, man. It's been a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to watch you play too, to watch you
Speaker 1: truly enjoy what you do. Man. Again, like like I said,
Speaker 1: it's just it's so much fun to watch that. And
Speaker 1: best luck to you on Sunday the rest of the year,
Speaker 1: and stay healthy, okay, my friend. Yeah, thanks you so
Speaker 1: much appreciate Jack, Thanks a lot and there he goes
Speaker 1: Dolphins defensive and shack Lawson. How great was that. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and try to finish up this podcast with
Speaker 1: some player media availability. We'll get to injuries later as well.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and start here first with Dolphins rookie
Speaker 1: receiver Malcolm Perry, who was asked about what's the biggest
Speaker 1: improvement he's made from his first game, from first getting
Speaker 1: to Miami as a bright eye rookie to now eleven
Speaker 1: weeks into his rookie campaign, where has he made the
Speaker 1: most improvement? UM? I think probably just knowledge of of
Speaker 1: what's going on as a defense. Uh. In college everything
Speaker 1: was a lot more simple, obviously, but um, just getting
Speaker 1: a better field for what's going on. Um, what's what's
Speaker 1: going on on defense and offense, just the whole scheme,
Speaker 1: what my role is in that scheme and what I
Speaker 1: need to do to make sure I'm successful in it
Speaker 1: and the offense has a unit and successful. So let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and jump from one rookie to the next.
Speaker 1: And here from Brandon Jones, I asked him if he
Speaker 1: gets excited like Christmas morning each week when he gets
Speaker 1: the game plan to see how much am I going
Speaker 1: to be involved. What are we doing this week? Is
Speaker 1: it exciting? With all the versatile packages the defense has?
Speaker 1: Here's the rookie, Brandon Jones. I do it's Uh, it's
Speaker 1: definitely exciting. Um with this with the with this coaching
Speaker 1: staff and just defensive scheme that we run. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I've like I've said it, just how versaile wee could
Speaker 1: be and how many different packages that we have. It's
Speaker 1: always fun just to see kind of for my position,
Speaker 1: just to see where I will be lined up this week. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, my certain job description this week versus what
Speaker 1: it was last week, and just being able to adjust.
Speaker 1: That's one thing, one big thing that I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of trying to learn each week is just to be
Speaker 1: able to master, um, my job description and be able
Speaker 1: to carry that on on a consistent basis from week
Speaker 1: to week. Let's go ahead and keep it on the
Speaker 1: rookie train. Here and here from Dolphins left tackle Austin Jackson,
Speaker 1: who was asked by me about the matchup with Bradley Chubb,
Speaker 1: what Chub does well and how to attack the Broncos
Speaker 1: leading sacker and quarterback pressures pass rusher off that side
Speaker 1: of the offensive line. Um, he also has some size
Speaker 1: and speed on him as well, So I would say
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for him would just be too get
Speaker 1: down the middle of him. Uh, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: send myself up with him so I can be in
Speaker 1: a good position. Let's react to any move to the
Speaker 1: initial or counter move, because he will throw a counter
Speaker 1: move after his initial rush. And you might have heard
Speaker 1: Austin's dog Pluto who was going to town on that
Speaker 1: chew toy during his press conference today. Different world here
Speaker 1: with the COVID nineteen being part of our lives, players
Speaker 1: doing their zooms from home. Let's go ahead and finish
Speaker 1: up here with Jerome. Baker had a question for Jerome
Speaker 1: about keying the offensive substitutions and how that can help
Speaker 1: you prepare for the snap coming ahead. Uh. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: definitely have time, and if you don't have time, you've
Speaker 1: got to make time. Uh. You know, they definitely have
Speaker 1: two unique back to what I mean, but that is, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be your home because who's
Speaker 1: in the game, because you can eliminate or all right,
Speaker 1: kind of have anticipation of what they're trying to do
Speaker 1: with that that uh, and for us, that's that's been
Speaker 1: our goal with you know, pretty much anybody we faces.
Speaker 1: You gotta know who's in the game. You gotta know
Speaker 1: who are you going against, What do I do well,
Speaker 1: I would do to struggle with, and you know, play accordingly.
Speaker 1: So you definitely have enough time. Um, but you really
Speaker 1: gotta just really know your stuff. And so there we
Speaker 1: have it. The Thursday edition of the Drive Time podcast
Speaker 1: got you caught up on all the latest around the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins with that Shack Lawson interview as well. Go
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