WEBVTT - Shaq Lawson's Journey from Adversity to Perpetual Laughs

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<v Speaker 1>Field cutsdown Miami Blood Run. What is up Dolphins? And

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins official podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>each and every day. How's it going everybody? It is Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I'm here to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And

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<v Speaker 1>on today's show, we're gonna hear from Dolphins defensive and

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<v Speaker 1>Shack Lawson, Mr Giggles himself. Great interview with the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>defensive and new free agents signing this offseason. We got

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<v Speaker 1>plenty to talk to you with Shack. We're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a look back at the off season, speaking of Shack

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the moves and the contributions that have

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<v Speaker 1>been made from new players on your Miami Dolphins football team.

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<v Speaker 1>Possible here from Coach Flores, a few players, and get

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<v Speaker 1>the injury layers for Dolphins and Broncos on Sunday in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that and more on this Thursday, November nineteenth

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<v Speaker 1>off this Thursday edition of the Drivetime Podcast with Brian Flores.

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning media availability. The hot topic right now you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all over social media and different sports avenues is

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins defense and the Amiba package and the unique

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<v Speaker 1>versatility and flexibility of this defense. Coach Flores was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Amiba defense and it led into an answer

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<v Speaker 1>that really just sparked the idea of creativity and how

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<v Speaker 1>creativity is encouraged on this coaching staff with Josh Boyer,

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<v Speaker 1>Chan Gailey, Danny Crossman and of course all of the

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<v Speaker 1>position assistance. Here's Coach Flores on the defensive looks from

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Boyer and creativity on his staff. I think Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Boyer and our defensive staff they do a really nice

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<v Speaker 1>job of trying to come up with different schemes ideas that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to answer your question, we can handle, but

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<v Speaker 1>we also feel like will be an issue for um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the offense. And again, we try to

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<v Speaker 1>pre promote creativity here really on all three sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. An outlandish idea to some. You know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're we're we try to be open. I

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<v Speaker 1>try to be open to any any idea from a

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<v Speaker 1>football standpoint. If we can, if we can get it

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<v Speaker 1>and we can execute it, we'll give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And that may be different from week to week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it should be because when everyone gets to film and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure people have seen what we did last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've seen what we've done in previous weeks, and

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<v Speaker 1>they prepare for him, you try to give him something different.

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<v Speaker 1>I think every team tries to do that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think our staff on all three sides. Chan obviously offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny and the kicking game, and Josh defensively, we try

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<v Speaker 1>to I try to let them be as creative as

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<v Speaker 1>they can be, not try to hold him back from anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously we gotta be able to execute. And how

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<v Speaker 1>about some hockey talk from a guy that hasn't watched

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<v Speaker 1>a game of hockey and a decade. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's been a long time, but the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers and I am all about South Florida sports these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Made some big time news when they hired assistant general

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<v Speaker 1>manager Brett Peterson to that position, the NHL's first assistant

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<v Speaker 1>black general manager. He went to Boston College coach Brian Flores,

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<v Speaker 1>his alma mater, and coach talked about that move and

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<v Speaker 1>his support for South Florida sports. Apparently, he could not

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<v Speaker 1>find his Florida Panthers hat this morning. I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for my Florida Panthers hat this morning. I couldn't find it. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for Brett and we went to school together. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a smart, talented Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they got a great higher there. And there

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<v Speaker 1>matc Allwell, someone I've I've been in contact with. Also, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I support you know, the teams down here

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<v Speaker 1>in South Florida. And yeah, been a couple of Panthers games,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to going a few more. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have all my support and I'm excited about the direction

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<v Speaker 1>that a couple more here for coach, and we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>this one with Kyle Van Noy. Coach was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>his availability for the game on Sunday and his overall

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<v Speaker 1>health and he did talk about Preston Williams and Miles

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<v Speaker 1>Gascon as well. He just mentioned both those guys are working.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to get as hard as they can to

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<v Speaker 1>get back. The same as true for Kyle Van Noy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to play this audio because he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the role of Van Noel on his defense a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. You know, Kyle, Kyle's like like all the

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<v Speaker 1>other guys, He's doing everything he can to get back

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as he can. Um. But we've got guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays a number of roles linebacker, defensive, Van he's inside,

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<v Speaker 1>he's outside, Russia and coverage. So it's almost you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get a couple of guys to say you're a Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>on this play, You'll play this coles On role on

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<v Speaker 1>his play. So it's by committee, and we've got we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a few guys, number of guys, whether it's Commo,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Skinkal, whether it's Ago Vaughan. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a few different guys who can who can

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<v Speaker 1>feel those roles U you know, in practice and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully not, but you know, if if we had to

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<v Speaker 1>go that route in the game, and I think our

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<v Speaker 1>guys are ready to step up if that's the situation's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do everything you candidate to be ready to play.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important to him and hopefully we're getting back National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. It's nix and boozes happening everywhere, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to put up again. Nothing is more important

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<v Speaker 1>in health and safety, more players and want gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>anyone in a situation where they get doing further harm.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of that defense, if you guys read the

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<v Speaker 1>Blitz this morning, we talked on the stat of the

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<v Speaker 1>Day about Miami's tackling at that safety position between Bobby

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<v Speaker 1>McCay and Eric Rowe, and I was able to confirm

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<v Speaker 1>this both on Pro Football Focus as well as Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Football Reference, and actually asked Bobby yesterday on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>how much pride they take in their tackling and if

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<v Speaker 1>it's something they have to continue to work on or

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<v Speaker 1>just just where some of the pillars and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the staples of teams that are good tackling teams. And

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<v Speaker 1>he talked on the podcast about how that's a staple

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<v Speaker 1>of this defense, that's something we work on not just

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp, but every single day, each and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Some might say and so Bobby answered that question on

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<v Speaker 1>the Wednesday edition of Drive Time, But coach was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about the growth and maturation and communication between Eric Row

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<v Speaker 1>and Bobby McCain in this defense at their new ish positions.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was last season, but still for guys

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<v Speaker 1>that have been pros for as long as those guys

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<v Speaker 1>have to make a position change one year after the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>give or take, you want to check that progress. Coach

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<v Speaker 1>Flora has talked about both of those guys kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coming together, growing together, but also the entire secondary as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole and their communication skill set and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>proved or paid dividends. I should say for that veteran

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<v Speaker 1>group on the back end, they've grown together over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the season. The communication has gotten better week

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<v Speaker 1>to week, not just between those two but everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the secondary, um second level, the linebacker position, the line,

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<v Speaker 1>really across the board from communication standpoint, But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it starts with those two. You know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>satan position, you know you're really talking to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously each other, with the corners, the linebackers, when you

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<v Speaker 1>get down on the front, you know, I know, Bobby's

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<v Speaker 1>been down there quite a bit, so as row, you

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<v Speaker 1>end up talking to some defensive ends, so they're communications

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<v Speaker 1>vital and I think they've both done a good job

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<v Speaker 1>from that staning point, and just as far as their play,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's been solid also. And you heard him

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<v Speaker 1>talk about communicating to defensive vents. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty cool note there, because you do sometimes see

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Rowe come down and sneak inside the outside linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>even and what I've I've seen called a marble point front.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that that matters to anybody out there, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it called that on different schemes. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what coach Floras calls it, but where you sneak the

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<v Speaker 1>safety down inside the outside linebacker, the stand up linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of take that sea gap on in the

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<v Speaker 1>running game. We've seen Bobby McCain come down there and

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<v Speaker 1>blitz off the edge and and go up on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>screamage and fall back into the deep single high safety look.

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<v Speaker 1>So plenty of can fusion, plenty of different looks they

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<v Speaker 1>try to throw out the posing quarterbacks, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's working pretty well so far with Rowe and McCann

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<v Speaker 1>on that back end. And so that you have Brian

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<v Speaker 1>flores Is Thursday morning, November nineteen. Media availability here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Drivetime podcast part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network.

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<v Speaker 1>I referenced the Blitz article from Thursday morning. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the top news article on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon and kind of one of the things I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to look at in that particular article was the import

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<v Speaker 1>of contributions the Dolphins had this offseason, right, because we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew Dolphins entered the draft of four team picks.

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<v Speaker 1>They wind up making eleven after signing ten free agents.

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<v Speaker 1>They made a draft day trade for Matt Breeder, they

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<v Speaker 1>signed Cavon Fraser. So all things told, you wind up

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty three player editions just in that off season

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<v Speaker 1>player acquisition period. And that doesn't include undrafted free agents,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't include like a Savan Akhmed, for instance, who was

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<v Speaker 1>picked up mid season, or a Lynn Bowden who was

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<v Speaker 1>acquired in September. So just looking at those players in

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<v Speaker 1>their production, here's what the Dolphin scott out of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys five thousand, five hundred two snaps played. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>nine games in five thousand, five hundred snaps, seven touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen sacks, six takeaways, two hundred forty tackles, and here's

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<v Speaker 1>the big kicker. Here's why you only have seven touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of those resources were put into the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, right Austin Jackson, Eric Flowers, Ted Carress, Robert Hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>Solomon Kinley. Five new players on the offensive line. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of your offensive resources went. Outside of

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<v Speaker 1>two a Tonga Byloa and a couple of running backs

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<v Speaker 1>as well with Matt Brita Jordan Howard, the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>was the point of emphasis for the offense. This's offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>So those guys, those five newcomers, not including Jesse Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>who's kind of the old guard around here, the old hat.

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<v Speaker 1>Those five new guys one thousand, one hundred seven snaps

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<v Speaker 1>and passed. And that's in past protection, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>not run blocking, just in pass blocking. They've allowed pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on four point five percent of those collective pass rush snaps,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one quarterback pressures on one thousand, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seven pass blocking snaps. You talk about snap to release

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<v Speaker 1>time for both Ryan Fitzpatrick and to a tongue by

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<v Speaker 1>lower the ball comes out. That's how this offensive system

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<v Speaker 1>is designed. So what kind of guys do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to put up front guys that can hold the point

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<v Speaker 1>and get that clean pocket for two, and for fits

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<v Speaker 1>in the quarterback in the offense in general, to get

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<v Speaker 1>the football out of their hand quickly. That big size,

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<v Speaker 1>that big girth upfront certainly makes things harder on defenses

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<v Speaker 1>to to be able to slip past. And whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>one gap penetration or running games up front and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get by that big, thick offensive line, especially on

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<v Speaker 1>the interior, that makes it difficult, especially in that RPO game,

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<v Speaker 1>the inside zone games. Some of the stuff we see

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<v Speaker 1>what the Dolphins getting the football out of their hands

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and trying to kind of press the holes of

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<v Speaker 1>running back and cut backside. We've seen Miles Gascon savan

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<v Speaker 1>Akma do just that. So these offensive line fitting the system,

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<v Speaker 1>fitting the style of the offense, especially now I think

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<v Speaker 1>with quarterback to a tongue about lower back there with

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<v Speaker 1>the the kind of introduction sort of speak. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it was, it was there before, but a

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<v Speaker 1>little more looks with the RPO game fits up well.

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<v Speaker 1>So this offseason the vision of Brian flu Is and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Career coming together to produce those stats. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the players that were added in that portion

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft or in free agency. It's players from

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of different acquisition walks of life, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Shaheim, a July trade acquisition, has a couple of touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>is doing great work in the run blocking game. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Lynn Bowden, acquired for a draft pick in

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<v Speaker 1>September with Las Vegas Raiders. He's had some looks in

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<v Speaker 1>the wildcat and some receiver options and some screen passes

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<v Speaker 1>that type of thing. Talked about Savanahman eighty six rushing

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<v Speaker 1>yards on Sunday. Benito Jones has a big stop in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. We go back to last season. Zach Seeler

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<v Speaker 1>mac Hollins picked up off waivers in December. Mac Hollins,

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<v Speaker 1>for my money, is one of the best gunners in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire national football that He has been a monster

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams and not to mention when Preston Williams

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<v Speaker 1>comes out of lineup. We talked about adapting to your

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<v Speaker 1>personnel last week on the podcast. Mac Hollins goes into

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<v Speaker 1>the game and fulfills kind of a quasi pseudo tight

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<v Speaker 1>end role where he comes in tight to the formation,

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<v Speaker 1>works across the formation, and picks up the backside, the

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<v Speaker 1>backside force defender in the running game. So he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of different roles on this team for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that you picked up off the street. In last December,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Seeler gets the contract extension after beating the crab

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<v Speaker 1>out of offensive lines basically for the past twelve or

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen games he's been in Miami Dolphin. It's been it's

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<v Speaker 1>been fun to watch this team come together and this

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<v Speaker 1>the singular vision, doesn't matter how you get here. First

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick, seventh round draft pick, undrafted, acquired, otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are are paying big dividends. Whether it's Emmanuel

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<v Speaker 1>Ogba with the eight sacks or two a toungle by

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<v Speaker 1>low of the fifth pick in the draft throwing five

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown passes, no turnovers and his three starts, or a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like I mentioned, like Adam Sheheen brought over for

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<v Speaker 1>a seventh round draft pick in July, catching touchdowns, doing

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<v Speaker 1>work in the pass blocking game and run blocking game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been fun to watch the collective of this team

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<v Speaker 1>come together. And you know, I was thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>on my walk into the to the podcast studio this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not always about who stacks up the most stats.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you make a big a did you help the

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<v Speaker 1>team win the football game? Like I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Laird in in particular his seventeen yard rush on

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<v Speaker 1>third and seven. It's one play. You might forget it

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<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of things, but that put the

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<v Speaker 1>game away. That was what gave the Dolphins offense another series,

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<v Speaker 1>another set of downs to continue running clock off in

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<v Speaker 1>that Chargers game, and it essentially put the game away

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dolphins. So it's not about the collection of stats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about fifty three guys making enough plays and when

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<v Speaker 1>you can get Patrick Lair the guy that was I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he came into the game behind with Savona Ackman

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Washington on the running back depth chart. Achmed played

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the snaps, but Patrick Laird finds a

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<v Speaker 1>way to make an impact of there. He was on

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<v Speaker 1>the punt block team and they got the punt blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just it's fun to me to watch all

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three guys find contributions on this team. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>been the case this year so far. Speaking of offseason

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<v Speaker 1>acquisitions and guys the Dolphins brought in, Shack Lawson was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the premier signings of the off season for

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<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins, coming down from the Buffalo Bill's former

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick. I had a chance to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with Shack on Wednesday for of this Thursday edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Drift Time podcast, and it was fantastic. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and play this for you guys, because

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<v Speaker 1>he is a riot character. We all knew that, but

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<v Speaker 1>he also divulged to me kind of where that personality

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<v Speaker 1>came from. He said, at first he was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a quiet kid, but we all in you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Flores had a mention in his press conference this

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<v Speaker 1>morning we didn't cover here in the podcast where he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked about some early influences on his life, and

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<v Speaker 1>Flow basically said, we've all had to overcome some type

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<v Speaker 1>of adversity in our life. No one's is more important

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<v Speaker 1>than someone else's, which I thought was a great quote.

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<v Speaker 1>But Shack had some significant adversity. He lost his father

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen years old, and he he talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast how that was kind of the moment where

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<v Speaker 1>he decided, I'm gonna have a good example for my

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<v Speaker 1>siblings and try to show them there's no bad days

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that was a really cool portion of

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<v Speaker 1>this interview. So let's go ahead and get to Shack

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<v Speaker 1>last him talk about the highs and the lows, the laughs,

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<v Speaker 1>the sad times, and the ability to overcome adversity, how

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<v Speaker 1>he gets himself ready on game day. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>bubble gum, meditation, all kinds of stuff. Here is Shack Lawson,

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<v Speaker 1>a man of many words, and I am so excited

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<v Speaker 1>now to be joined by my guest today Dolphins Defensive

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<v Speaker 1>and Shack Lawson. Shack, how you doing, man? How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? I'm doing fantastic. You know, five game winning

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<v Speaker 1>Street can't complain. It makes my job easier when you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are out there getting the job done, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it a lot of fun to watch you guys

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<v Speaker 1>so much appreciated my friend. Yes, sir, the fun is

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<v Speaker 1>always and winning. So you know what else is fun?

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta know. So Travis Kelsey had his dating show,

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<v Speaker 1>How do we get love? Shack off the ground? See, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been thinking about that. I'm bad you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me that. Man, I've been trying to look like

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<v Speaker 1>anybody because like I got a great personality, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a great heart, you know. So I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a communication major too, So I feel like I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the being on TV and I want my own

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<v Speaker 1>I want my own show, just like Travis Kelsey. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to work on that. So if anybody out

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<v Speaker 1>there hear me today, man, I really would love to

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<v Speaker 1>get my Oh show man, it would be a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's let's let's start. Let's start developing it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the premise, like, what's what's the general theme of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. What are we what are we going for? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking I had a little theme like Travis Kelsey. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>look look look dating show man. You know, hey, ever

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<v Speaker 1>got me? I haven't found me a girlfriend or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, so me going out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to experience and day and and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>it have fun with it doing it too. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>serious time. It's a serious thing because busically I got

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a relationship, get married, get old and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. But uh, I've been thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to do it so bad, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I would be a great host because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a character. I'm very funny and and it would just

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<v Speaker 1>be great. Man. I could just see myself going so correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many understand the show here? So Travis Kelsey show,

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to find himself a girlfriend or a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that how it works? Yeah? Yeah, that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>That was with me, It was I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>counting something similar that. But yeah, me, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find you know what I'm saying, a girlfriend somebody gate

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on my show. I want to be about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's kind of like, you know, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>your example or flavor flav back. Yeah, I'm similar liked,

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<v Speaker 1>but not too not too bad, you know, I still

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep it p G. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, keep it like that. But something something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know from you know, they always say you find

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<v Speaker 1>your your wife and stuff in college, like, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have climpsing three and a half years. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not find my wife or girlfriend. So hopefully this if

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<v Speaker 1>I can get this show off the ground great and

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<v Speaker 1>get this going, this would be a great opportunity. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta find you gotta avoid the I love you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love New York, you know, contesting on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>because they might be after their own nefarious purposes there,

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<v Speaker 1>so you gotta keep an eye out for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. I definitely yea,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not to change that. Yeah, it ain't gonna Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I get that right. Hey, let let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me give you some Let me give you some

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<v Speaker 1>some hope here. I actually met my wife, and no

0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>one can ever believe this. I met my wife on

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<v Speaker 1>tender Man. Can you believe that? Yeah? Yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 1>both we were we were both in it for the

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<v Speaker 1>right reasons. We weren't trying to do the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were trying to meet somebody and it worked out

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Well that's great. That's great, man, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. How long this will go? Shoot? Shoot, we

0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we've been together for about five years now. But I

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<v Speaker 1>met her and we we talked for a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we finally decided to meet up. And we

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<v Speaker 1>had to like exchange Facebook information so we can make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we both were real and all that stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of weird, but hey, it worked, man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first there you go, perfect perfect. So you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>your time back in college at Clemson, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to that here in a second, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go further back beyond that. First, I

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<v Speaker 1>read again. I did some research on your shack, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find out some stuff about your your life and personality.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, you're you're a fascinating dude. And and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the Dating show certainly speaks to that as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>you spent some time at Hart Growth Military School, and

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't qualify originally academically at Clemson, and Dabbo Sweeney

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<v Speaker 1>had a quote and now this had you were literally

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<v Speaker 1>in tears. What did that moment and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>learning experience do for us for you as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like motivation for your career Shack? Oh yeah, Man. When

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<v Speaker 1>I got the call, man, it was weird. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a weird like because I was in row at Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the time they told me how to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was kind of like you said, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in tears, man, I really thought it was over for

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<v Speaker 1>me at the time. I'm not gonna get qualified. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to go to military school, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>how military school to paying out. There's some people, some

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<v Speaker 1>people can barely do military school. So I was thinking, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this might be open for me. You might have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back home and just do what what people do

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<v Speaker 1>at home. And so but I knew, I knew, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I wanted to do something way just bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>just being back home. I knew, I knew I had

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to play in the NFL, I had an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get a college education, and Clemson could be

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<v Speaker 1>the first one in my place, my college, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>my family, first one in my family to go to

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<v Speaker 1>college and or even graduating high school type. So I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was way bigger than bigger than me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the heart they made me a man. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad I didn't go to the round m most freshmans.

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<v Speaker 1>You go straight to college, you get throwing the fire

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<v Speaker 1>like me better, like getting up from workouts in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing like making sure I was organized and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It was it really want a problem for

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<v Speaker 1>me as a freshman coming to college because I already

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<v Speaker 1>had that that mindset when I was doing the military life.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you wouldn't just going to school, you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>military life, going to school, playing football, You're doing all

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<v Speaker 1>three of that. So, I mean that was just a

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<v Speaker 1>great experience. Man, I never take this away from anything.

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<v Speaker 1>People every day that that that heard gare experience made

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<v Speaker 1>me the man I am today. That that had to

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<v Speaker 1>have helped prepare you for a Brian Flores program and

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<v Speaker 1>playing under Brian Flora's right. Oh yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like every level of ball I'm play that. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been a tough program. Just scrust the light.

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<v Speaker 1>So Clemson was something similar like that, going up buff

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<v Speaker 1>was like that. Um I even had the crazy coach

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<v Speaker 1>from Hard Knocks one year from the rounds Hard Knocks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I just I have experienced a lot of man,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean that that help me. That helped me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for flow program because I know how I

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<v Speaker 1>know how you'd like to run his things and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's scriptly business. Yeah shock. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no easy way to transition to this next topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess I'll try. And I know that coach

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Flora's recently, you know, had lost his mother to cancer

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 1>and that was something he talked about openly. The other

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 1>day was my five year anniversary of me losing my mother.

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So you're in good company for my friend. And the

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.080
<v Speaker 1>next subject again a tough one to talk about. But

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>on that story on the Athletic, you spoke about losing

0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>your father at a young age and kind of having

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to step up and to fill some responsibilities of taking

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 1>care of your siblings things like that. What would you

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>say that adversity did to kind of help shape shape

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the man that you are today. Man, that adversity, man,

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that, you know they said everything happened for

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a reason. You know, that was a tragic part of

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>my life when I got the news and and found

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>out everything that happened, um, and then the fact that

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody new things like that. But man, it's just it

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>was tough for times. Man, it was. It was tough

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>because I used to work up very day thinking like,

0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>i'mna lee my brothers, sisters in the right directions. So

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>getting up every morning thinking about that, that was the

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>hard part of my life. I didn't want them to

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>see no bad signs, No, not the wrong way to

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 1>do it. So man, I just I just took the

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>approach as a fifteen year old man, it was my

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>time step up because my mom was in the hospital

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>for people don't know that my mom was like in

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>the hospital for five five months because she was in

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the car accident to recovery. So me and my sister

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 1>had played a part of because we just had a

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>We just had one brother just literally born like one

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 1>years old. So that that just made me realize, you

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you life granted, man, everything is the point.

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Like at the time, before they even happened, man, I

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was like that led me to going hard grade. I

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>had bad grades. I was a kid and getting in trouble.

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>A kid is hanging around with the wrong card. After that,

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that that turned my whole life around, Like I looked

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>at life different from that as parents that I went through. Uh,

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>from the first year, I had moved to taste in life.

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Now see that that to me makes the and I'm

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>sure you've seen them all over social media. Your your

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>teammates talk about it. You obviously live at check the laugh, man,

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the the laugh that is super contagious, whether or not

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>someone knows you or season on the video. I think

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 1>that hearing that part of your story and seeing you

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to come out on the other side and

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>be the happy, jovial, go lucky guy that you are.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's inspiring, man, It's it's cool to watch and

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like like you. Like you said, there was many days

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:33.959
<v Speaker 1>where I woke up thinking, like, I don't know if

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I can do this anymore, because, like you know, that's

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>a big part of my life. It's now gone. But

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you fight through your persevere and to see you having

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>fun and doing what you love, man, it's it's freaking awesome.

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the only way I can put it. And so

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>just just kudos to you for that, man, Yes, sir,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>thank you of course. So, uh, I want to stay

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>on that topic of the laugh And I had to

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.239
<v Speaker 1>ask coach about this morning. I wanted to ask him.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he's a serious guy. Youah, you see

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>him around, he's he's usually got you know, a pretty

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>a pretty serious look on his face. And I asked

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>him about what shocks personality does to kind of help

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>keep the mood light around the building. And he said this,

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>He said, they're young guys. They want to have fun,

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 1>they want to laugh, and they joke around with each other,

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and they joke around with the coaches and we joke

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 1>back and Shock is full of life. Shack's got a

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>great laugh apparently, and he's a lot of fun to

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>be around, and you don't want to temper that as

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>a coach. You want to let him be himself and

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>bring his energy to the rest of the group. They

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>feed off of it, and I think it makes us

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>a better team. So how do you respond to that quote?

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And also how do you flip the switch from a

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>guy that's losing joking around to business. Oh? Man, you know,

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a time and a place you got. You gotta

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>have a switch, you know. Um, that's why, man, it's

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>important to get winds throughout the week. Man wins every Sunday.

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a reason. So nobody want to be mad. But yeah, man,

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the time the place to be serious, you know

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>when when when I'm on the lines, it's all business.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>At the same time, you gotta have fun doing it.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been on this league my fifth year and I've

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 1>been around players and myself like, this league can scratch

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you out if you let the league scratch because you've

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 1>got too much how you played. So I mean I

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>just said back man, like I'm saying, man, all the

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>adversity of face man and having an opportunity to wake

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>up every morning to do what I love. Man. I

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>gotta smell man, I just I gotta spell man, and

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I always lad be be the guy. Just you know

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Bring joy it, man, because it could

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>be the up, it could be the opposite around man.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I always try to put myself and other people's shoes, man,

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>if I wasn't in the NFL. So that's how I

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>live every day. And I always keep a smile on

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.479
<v Speaker 1>my face. We've got Dolphins defensive and Shack Lawson here

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>on the Drive Time podcast part of the Miami Dolphins

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast network, and speaking of serious and business time, your

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>defensive line coach is all business man, Marry and Hobby.

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I talked about Brian Flores being serious. Mary and Hobby

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>scares me. I see that massive human being walking around

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the facility. But you and him go back way back

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to Clemson, right, yes, yes, yes, sir, yes, sir man

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>he um he was there my first year when I

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>got to Clemson. And then when you said that, when

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>how you said how I scare you? The cop in

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>college was so crazy, man, it was words man like,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it was bad. So he kind of cooled down. But man,

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that that played a road I came and you know,

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a great relationship with him, Kristen, Crispin and

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Tankishly at the time, people didn't notice, Uh, cour J

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Tanks was a part of the team, but people didn't notice. Man,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>me and him was roommates, are hardred like, so we

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>had a relationships. I had a great relationship down here

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and then when I was playing those guys two times

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a year in the division, Man, I know these guys

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>work hard. Man. I knew Flow had those guys in

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the right direction, and I just wanted to be a

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>part of it. I do want to come back to

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that decision to sign with Miami. But first you mentioned

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Christian Wilkins. Man, has he always been this big of

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a goofball and did he may be kind of learning

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>from you that one year at Clemson back in I mean,

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, he always been a goopball. He at the

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>first than he really didn't say much, but he started

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>opening up, you know. Uh, But Kristen was always the coupball,

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>big kid. Man. He like me, Man like, I guess

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>we've feed off each other for real, for real, because

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get gone laughing and joking around, but you know,

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like that we can get serious. But I mean having

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 1>him around, man, playing with him with campus is great. Man.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned coming out of Clemson going to the

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>NFL draft first round pick Shack Lawson to Buffalo now

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in Miami, and at the scouting combine shock back in Indianapolis,

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you said your best rush move was the inside spin.

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that still the case? It ain't did it? So

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>he did it? Hey, I ain't did it. I think

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I did a one a couple of years ago, and

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I had hurt my growing I stopped doing it.

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>But oh man, oh no, I need to get back

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to that move. Man. You can put me another move

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>back to my head. I need to get back to

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, that changed the game up a little bit.

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>But man, I'm about to get back to that movie.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for reminding me for that. Hey, if I see

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a sock or a quarterback knocked down on the inside spin,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking credit for that thing. Baby. Hey man, Yeah,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. Man, it's all you. It's all you

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>out there. Uh, speaking of credit for sacks, another teammate

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>enjoying a lot of success of yours right now up

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>front is a manual ag ball and one of my

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>favorite clips from the off season. Was you talking about

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>how heavy is ff and hands are? That was hilarious

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to me. But earlier this week he talked to us

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>about putting in more time and effort money into taking

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>care of his body. And I read in a story

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>last year on The Athletic that you took up meditation.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Are you still doing that? Yeah? I'm bad meditating yet. Man.

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I started off this ship this season not meditating, but man,

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been back on it, uh lately. Yeah, Man, you

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta take care of your body. Man's this is a

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>long season, man, with with a lot going on. How

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>this season is this ship? Man, it's just a little

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>at different seasons. So you gotta take more instecure of

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>your body and things like that. What does your meditation

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>routine look like? Like? I don't really know much about it,

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I know, there's a mantra whisper to yourself. Look

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>see okay, okay, So Monday I just cleaned out my

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean Monday, you know, I'm going out and just

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>having my sub time being the dark by myself, listen

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to some music. But I'm planning out the week. I'm

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>planning out the week that I'm seeing. I'm trying to

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>see how my Monday gonna go throughout this day Tuesday,

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>just planning out my my week before I get there.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what, what the things I gotta do, the

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>things I gotta do to uh get better at and

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>then how do meditate throughout the week? What I gotta

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>do during the week. And I meant to take about

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the game and visualized plays I can meet and that

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>they're a big successful with me last year because I

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>was saying, I mean seeing stuff before for happening, but

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I was just re lax, calm. You know, you's always

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you got that time by yourself. Man. It's just it's

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>good for your body. Man. It's good stretch for your body,

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>right right, especially nowadays when you're always around a phone

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>or a computer or TV and you're always kind of engaged.

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>To be able to turn that stuff off and just

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>have a moment of silence. I think it's invaluable. That's

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that's cool to hear, especially when you talk about envisioning

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your week, that that gives you a

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>good leg up on things. Absolutely. Let's circle back now

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to something you mentioned about playing this team twice a

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>year and seeing coach Flores. There was an article before

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>free agency, which you would of course wind up signing

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>here with the Dolphins. But how, if at all, would

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you say that your perspective and expectation of what the

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins might be this year when you signed back in March,

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>has changed now here in November. Oh no, it's the same.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's on the tenses to win the women

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's so young team and be a part of

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a great y s. It's been going good. It's been

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>going good. Um, yeah, it's been going good lately. Man.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, just just move and take a long week

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>at a time and winning. You went in and you're

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>in South Korta, man, you can't get done better than there.

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>That's damn right. My first year in South Orda. I

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>love it down here. Even with now they want to

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>do much just just the weather alone, it's perfect. But

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>u you know, speaking of good weather, and you talked

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>about it earlier. You did, of course come over from

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo and back in week two, Shock Tradavious White was

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>asked at a press conference, what's the biggest difference in

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the locker room without Shock being there? And he said,

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more bubble gum in the locker room.

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>What's your go to gum man? Hey, what's the go

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the big boss man? They had gave me something that's crazy,

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>buff gave me a box of that. Uh it's the

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>big boxes you what's the bottle guns man? They got

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you got a little plain yellow flavor then, but you

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>got two other flavors with like the multiple flavors in.

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>So I used to keep the whole look. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have about is going to my party, going practice

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<v Speaker 1>some things like that. So man, I used to think

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<v Speaker 1>they just keeping that keeping that job strong at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can talk that trash man. I love it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But but before you got into a couple more questions

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<v Speaker 1>for your hair shock, before you got you know, to

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the football realm, you were kind of a monster on

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>the hardwood. We talked about this back in March when

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you signed about being teammates with DeAndre Hopkins. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have to imagine you would compare your game to the

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<v Speaker 1>guy you're named after, right, Shaquille O'Neil. Is that not

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 1>who you're named after? Oh? Yeah, I'm named after him, yes, sir, Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is that your player? Your player comparison? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for the basketball platy I used to mark my

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<v Speaker 1>game just like himp is Uh, that's why my dad

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>gave me a name and stuff like that. They would

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<v Speaker 1>be Cello O'Neil fans as had an opportunity coming out

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Shaquille O'Neil um about how I got my

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<v Speaker 1>name because I I waited like three days after I

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<v Speaker 1>was born to get a name, and I got shocked

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm told shack about So we end up connecting

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<v Speaker 1>with each other and I'm having a great talking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I still if I from Tom here, from Tom to

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<v Speaker 1>Tom know. So you just you throw that drop step

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<v Speaker 1>on and slam that thing down. I'm picturing you get

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>getting the ball in the policy throwing the drop step

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<v Speaker 1>and hospital take it serious. I'll pull it up on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and we'll get it out to the fans here shortly. Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time today, man. It's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun to watch you play too, to watch you

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<v Speaker 1>truly enjoy what you do. Man. Again, like like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's so much fun to watch that. And

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<v Speaker 1>best luck to you on Sunday the rest of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and stay healthy, okay, my friend. Yeah, thanks you so

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<v Speaker 1>much appreciate Jack, Thanks a lot and there he goes

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins defensive and shack Lawson. How great was that. Let's

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and try to finish up this podcast with

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.399
<v Speaker 1>some player media availability. We'll get to injuries later as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and start here first with Dolphins rookie

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>receiver Malcolm Perry, who was asked about what's the biggest

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>improvement he's made from his first game, from first getting

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami as a bright eye rookie to now eleven

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>weeks into his rookie campaign, where has he made the

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>most improvement? UM? I think probably just knowledge of of

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>what's going on as a defense. Uh. In college everything

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>was a lot more simple, obviously, but um, just getting

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>a better field for what's going on. Um, what's what's

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>going on on defense and offense, just the whole scheme,

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>what my role is in that scheme and what I

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>need to do to make sure I'm successful in it

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.399
<v Speaker 1>and the offense has a unit and successful. So let's

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and jump from one rookie to the next.

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>And here from Brandon Jones, I asked him if he

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>gets excited like Christmas morning each week when he gets

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the game plan to see how much am I going

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to be involved. What are we doing this week? Is

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>it exciting? With all the versatile packages the defense has?

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's the rookie, Brandon Jones. I do it's Uh, it's

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely exciting. Um with this with the with this coaching

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>staff and just defensive scheme that we run. Um. You know,

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I've like I've said it, just how versaile wee could

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>be and how many different packages that we have. It's

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>always fun just to see kind of for my position,

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>just to see where I will be lined up this week. Um,

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, my certain job description this week versus what

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it was last week, and just being able to adjust.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing, one big thing that I'm still kind

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of trying to learn each week is just to be

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>able to master, um, my job description and be able

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<v Speaker 1>to carry that on on a consistent basis from week

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to week. Let's go ahead and keep it on the

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.720
<v Speaker 1>rookie train. Here and here from Dolphins left tackle Austin Jackson,

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>who was asked by me about the matchup with Bradley Chubb,

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>what Chub does well and how to attack the Broncos

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>leading sacker and quarterback pressures pass rusher off that side

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line. Um, he also has some size

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and speed on him as well, So I would say

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing for him would just be too get

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>down the middle of him. Uh, you know, trying to

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>send myself up with him so I can be in

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a good position. Let's react to any move to the

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>initial or counter move, because he will throw a counter

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>move after his initial rush. And you might have heard

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Austin's dog Pluto who was going to town on that

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>chew toy during his press conference today. Different world here

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>with the COVID nineteen being part of our lives, players

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>doing their zooms from home. Let's go ahead and finish

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>up here with Jerome. Baker had a question for Jerome

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>about keying the offensive substitutions and how that can help

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you prepare for the snap coming ahead. Uh. Yeah, you

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely have time, and if you don't have time, you've

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>got to make time. Uh. You know, they definitely have

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>two unique back to what I mean, but that is, uh,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to be your home because who's

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>in the game, because you can eliminate or all right,

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of have anticipation of what they're trying to do

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>with that that uh, and for us, that's that's been

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>our goal with you know, pretty much anybody we faces.

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>You gotta know who's in the game. You gotta know

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who are you going against, What do I do well,

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I would do to struggle with, and you know, play accordingly.

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>So you definitely have enough time. Um, but you really

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta just really know your stuff. And so there we

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<v Speaker 1>have it. The Thursday edition of the Drive Time podcast

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<v Speaker 1>got you caught up on all the latest around the

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Miami Dolphins with that Shack Lawson interview as well. Go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and check out the feature up on Miami Dolphins

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