1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. Like as far as. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: With everything that's been going on, you know, with like 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: the Top seventy five and stuff like that, do you 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: feel like I was a little disrespected in that manner? 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 3: Or of course you are, But again I felt you 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: should have played a certain way, in a certain style. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: And the unfortunate thing about you in your career is 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: you got caught right at the middle. Yeah, the middle 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: end of your career and the new beginning of this 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 3: new shift because you were like you and a couple 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: of guys with the Holy Senters left, they start going 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: to the picking popp and now we have this that 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: we're watching. Now, should you be on until seventy five? 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: But I said, if it's not unanimous, then you shouldn't 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: have been. I wanted to pitch you off again. Gotta understand, like, 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: marketing is every thing for guys like us. You know why. 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: You know why I marketed for myself? You know why 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 3: you marketed out of yourself? Nobody fucking life. 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: Brother. 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: I realized that, right. 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, they always want to lose, you know. 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. So we gotta do. I gotta do 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: what I gotta do, what I gotta say, but. 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: If me and you are the two biggest giants on 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: the earth, and me and you are fighting each other, 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: and then then everybody's gonna look at you and say, Okay. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: He's the first one, he's the original Superman, so we're 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: gonna rock with him, and then we don't disrespect the 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: other one because the one, the first one, he don't 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: really with them from how they looking at it. You 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So okay, but do you care 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: about that? 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't, But they have cost me a lot of things. No, 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: they have not with the NBA. 36 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so if you say that I shouldn't be on 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: top seventy five in the public, now, that's a perception 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: that the whole. 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: World is going to look at because because it's coming 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: from you. So that's stamping your word regardless of how 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: I play. 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: But who gives them about what they say? Let me 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: tell you something about life. You should only care about 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: your mother, your father, your brothers and sisters, and your 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: beautiful kids and your beautiful wife all these other about us. 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct. Let me tell you a day 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: that broke my heart. Amaran Orlando Alex Martin comes to 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: me and he says, hey man, ww you want to 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: do something at your house? And I'm like, sure. I 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: see Rick Flair and Hawk Hogan walking together shaking hands. 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: That broke my heart. 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 3: You know why I broke my heart because me being 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: part of they, I thought they hated each other because 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: you you probably don't know wrestling, but Rick Flair and 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: I thought they hate each other. But I had this 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: event in my house talking to each other. I'm like, 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: is going on? 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: And then it hit me. 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter what they think, because you got 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: to understand when when we say something, they talk about 61 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: by me about you, and yeah, that's it marketing in 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: one on want. Nobody understands that. I can't hate you. 63 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: The only thing I hate about you is you jump 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: away higher than I did. The only thing i'm jumping. 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: I wish I could. I wish I could. 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: Jump like that. Oh you good jump, But you said 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: not like that, not like that? Okay. 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: I can't see how it looked from from somebody else's angle, 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: how crazy? 70 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: Like? 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: How was it like me jumping the duncan? Like me 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: jumping the duncan. I don't know how it could look 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: to somebody else. 74 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: Whenever I watched my tapes and I dunk. Of course, 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: I jump, okay, and it just looked like but when 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: you jump, it looked like you gotta high. You made 77 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: me like which kind of made me mad. I ain't 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: gonna lie like you. I'm sitting there with my ex 79 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: wife and you put on the Superman cape. I thought 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: you was paying homage to me, Kenny Superman Man, and 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: then you go into Orlando and start calling yourself Superman. 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I said, I like it, but 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: I don't like it, but I'm gonna go with it. 84 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. I could have went on 85 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: and be like by, but I say, you know, I 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: don't know his plan. I don't know what he's trying 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: to do. Maybe he's trying to do the old karate thing, 88 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: which is what the you're supposed to do, the young master, 89 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: the young student much someday killed the master to become 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: the master you're supposed to do it. I don't give 91 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: who it is, so I'm like, okay, maybe just trying 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: to hit me with my own let me go with it. 93 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: That was the first thing that made me go, okay, 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what he doing, but let me doing. Hey, 95 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: Dwight's down, Dan Dominic. Now I got to see who 96 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm dealing with. Oh, twenty six that is enough. You 97 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: need to get twenty five fifteen. Like, I'm like, I'm 98 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: thinking you you hit me with my own like, okay, 99 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: this is from Rick Flayer, Hope, let me go with it. 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: And then you got in the DM like you hate bro. Huh. 101 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, so I think that's where Yeah, it's just people. 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: I think that's where I know it. 103 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think but let me tell you, don't 104 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: ever listen to the outside noise. 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: Brother, So it's someone who is the outside noise. Let 106 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 5: me ask my first question. I love this conversation is 107 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: great and I appreciate you both. So Shaq, you heard 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 5: the Superman and you went, oh, this is the young 109 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 5: man trying to kill the master hold on Dwight. In 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: your mind, were you was the hope like man, one 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: day we could be back to back Superman, Like what 112 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 5: were you thinking it was going to be? 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy because the Superman was about Soldier Boy, and 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: it was about it was about. 115 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: It was about our proper man. 116 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: So when I was in practice, I used to always 117 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: play the soul. 118 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: I played soldier boy all the time. 119 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 4: And right before that, before that dunk practice I had, 120 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: I had jumped over a bo outlaw and dunked it, 121 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: and so everybody was like, man, you should put a 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: cape on and jump for the free throw line. You 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: be flying when you dunk, and you always be doing 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: the Superman. So I was like, shoot, all right. Then, 125 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: Remember we had a conversation about I need to show 126 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: my personality. Yeah, when we was at before All Star weekend. Yeah, 127 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: after we had that conversation, my cousin I was like, bro, 128 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: we gotta go find a Superman outfit to put on 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: for the dunk contest. I just got finished talking the shack. 130 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: He said, I gotta really show my personality. So I'm like, shoot, 131 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm finna put on the cake somehow and go crazy. 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: So he find a cap, but he find a whole 133 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: outfit with the boots and all. But I can't wear 134 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: boots and the dunk contest. So I had to tie 135 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 4: it around like a one with my shorts and all that, 136 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 4: and then I did the dunk. But the dunk was 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: me doing the Superman all the time. And that's where 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 4: it came from. My teammates were saying, man, you always 139 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: lifting crazy weight, so you always jumping real high man, 140 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 4: you act like superman. 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: So you know, I can admit it. I'm sensitive. So 142 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: after you did the dunk, you gave me a kind 143 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: of a look. He was like so, and then I'm 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: looking at kiddy, oh no, and I'm like, listen, I 145 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: realized I'm responsible. 146 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I. 147 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: Realized I'm not shocking mom at the end of my career. 148 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: But I'm like, dang, and let me go out greatly, 149 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: just trying to take my okay here that and that's 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: where it started. But it's always a w w W 151 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: E beef. Yeah, yeah, I hate in the league. I 152 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: ain't gonna see you at a restaurant with your family 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: and throw your food over them, be like, hello, the 154 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: wight high baby, is how you're doing. I'm uncle Shack 155 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: And that's it. This this, this is the life we live. 156 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: We talked, We talked, Smack. My favorite thing that's going 157 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: on right now is with Gail's podcast Arena and Brandon 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: Jennings and the dudes they play. I'm loving it. But 159 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: I know off the court ain't gonna fight, but I 160 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: know on the court they're gonna. Yeah. The general question 161 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: inquiring minds want to know which team was better my 162 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: my Orlando team or your Orlander team? Yeah? 163 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: My team? What you mean we went to the and 164 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: won a game. We want to get here? 165 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, we won a game. Okay, good point, So 166 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 6: we got we gotta have. We gotta be one up 167 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 6: because he won one game. At least give us one game. 168 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh but ball on, let's bowl on, let's break it down, 169 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: Penny all the way. Who's your point, jamiir we had three? 170 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: We had a three headed months, Jim. It was hurt 171 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: when we went to the finals. 172 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Call it we had. We had uh Anthony Johnson and 173 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: we had. 174 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 6: All right. 175 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: So I went. 176 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: At the two, we had uh Nick Anderson, who you 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: had after two? 178 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: No Michale teachers. 179 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: We win that bottle. At the three, we got the 180 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Scott who y'all got right. At the four. At the 181 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: four we had Horace Ground. 182 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Got Sean Louise. That's equal out. That's three ballalling. And 183 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: then you then you go. 184 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: Found each other out, because that's all we did every 185 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: time we played against each other s, file each other out. 186 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: So we gotta be done. 187 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 5: What's funny is I looked it up you guys when 188 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 5: facing each other. It was six and six and then 189 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: there was a lot of foul outs every time. 190 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: You know what, I really hated you. I was in 191 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: Cleveland and you was killing me. But you kept doing 192 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: that move going through the. 193 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, going through. 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