WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Draft Review, Day 1 & 2 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.120 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:15.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.439 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headhars at the 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:24.320 Star in Frisco. Elliot flowing to the goal line saw 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:30.520 let's got tick today? And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:37.560 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It's another 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.519 Talking Cowboys Tuesday here from the Star in Frisco in 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.960 the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody, the first post draft 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:53.000 episode of your favorite Talking Cowboys crew. Rob Phillips, Isaiah Stanback, 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.680 heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.880 The draft is in the rear view mirror. The Cowboys 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.320 state put made all nine picks in the way that 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.800 they were slotted, and we will break it down for 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.560 you hero for the next hour on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.039 Com and the various streaming platforms. Gentlemen, how are we doing? 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.959 Everybody recovered from a great draft weekend? Are you recovering 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.319 from a great draft week You just had a draft 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:22.120 show on top of Demanza outside of like my neck 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.399 kind of feeling weird in the back here from being 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.800 like hunched over a mic all weekend. I feel great. Actually, Now, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.920 well you've got the couple days. You've got these strong 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.160 neck muscles, I hear you. I mean you're like a 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.399 baby tank. Is that your nickname? Now? Soft? This is 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.000 an inside joke. It is here. Well I can explain it, 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.720 we can talk about it on the air. There was 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.440 just gonna take the whole thing off the rails right 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:50.000 to start. Right at the start show, Audius got strong. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.960 So there was There was a presentation yesterday with with 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:00.920 South oh Cliff and the state championship high school yesterday 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.160 got a chance to kind of moderate a conversation between 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.639 them and d Law and the team meeting room across 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.959 a way, and it was put on by water Burger, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.040 our friends over there, and they did a great job 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.560 with it. And somebody clipped a picture of just me 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.080 and d Law standing next to each other and they're like, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:17.560 is it just me? Or is de Law looking a 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.280 little small? And I'm looking at these comments and like 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.120 half the comments are, nah, Kyle Yeomans is just getting jacked. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.520 Maybe it because Kyle Yeomens is hitting the weights. I 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.400 can assure you that's not the case. And I can 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.680 also assure you d laws not looking small boys. The 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.760 bots that you paid for don't know when to stop 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:43.000 start start accounts. They're both just my burners. I switched 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.080 over the profile every once in a while. You got 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:50.520 you gotta slow the algorithm down. They don't. Oh man, 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.560 but that's the sidetrack. But yeah, we are going to 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.480 talk tomorrow show draft. Sorry, Rob baby Tank, uh baby Tank. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.720 If that's the nickname, I'll take it. I I love tank. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:05.240 Should um Isaiah, you did some some draft work this weekend. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.680 How did that go? It was good man working with 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.880 the Lockdown podcast network. We were down there at w 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.400 FAA studios. We reported on the one step one step close, 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.480 one step. You just just right there, You just just 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.400 tiptoe tiptoe that burst through the door. It was a 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.119 lot of cred of coverage though. That was a Yeah, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.760 it was some long days marathon. It is a marathon. Honestly. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.520 One of the things that helped us get through the 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:34.560 marathon was this dude right here reading two hundred scouting 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.920 profiles for our draft coverage. I'm gonna be able to 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.560 hit through them. Is there any way for me to 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.960 humble bragging this thing. Do it, no, humble umble, just 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.600 do it, just do it. I did my thing, no, 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.160 you know what. And it was so much fun just 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.200 reading Damn Bugler's book. And he does a really good job. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.560 I don't know. I'm sure all you guys are taking it. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.000 And you got the digital version because you're a digital brother. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.920 You don't come down, you know, like I'm not about 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.760 saving paper here. You honestly, some of these people with 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.160 the big ring bind there around their beast. But yeah, man, 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.680 it was it was one for and thankful for the opportunity. Yeah, 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.840 we got to hear his name quite a few times 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.520 throughout the draft process, reading through Dame Brugler stuff and stuff. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.120 Getting through that it was awesome. Saved us a ton 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.600 of time. And then also it allowed us to just 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.720 continue to pile on information and that was awesome. And 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.599 then Rob Phillips over here doing this thing on the 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.760 website writing up all the profiles, getting everything together. But 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.080 he stopped doing finger paints with a little lady to 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.080 write some articles. And it took a break. It took 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.400 a break from the you know, baby baby shark got 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.600 that done, did some podcasts into a little TV, and uh, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.159 we got nine picks to talk about. Man, yeah, we do. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.360 Let's start. We're gonna just go through these one by 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.800 one and kind of talk about the reaction and how 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.560 it led to this and how the Cowboys ended up 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.720 taking these guys and Rob, I'll start with you on 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.200 this one. What was your initial reaction of Tyler Smith 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.839 and how has it evolved as the week has gone along, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.720 Because I feel like that's the biggest thing is when 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.240 the pick was made on Thursday, the instant reaction, to 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.800 a certain extent was disappointment. It really was, I mean, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.320 plain and simple. There were a lot of people disappointed 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.000 in the pick, but me being included. As we got 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.080 along and as we heard the reasoning and as we 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:22.120 heard the thought process behind this selection, my thought process 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.200 has evolved too, and it has gone with it. What 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.440 has yours been like over the last couple of days. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.120 I think it's the same thing. I think when you 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.599 talk to people not only in the press conferences, but 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.039 off the record just on what they thought of the pick, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.600 you get a better clear picture of what they wanted 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.000 to do. And honestly, we're doing something on the website 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.760 today about what was your favorite pick, What do you 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.360 have questions about. It's hard for me not to say 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.960 that my favorite pick is Tyler Smith, not knowing whether 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.000 it's going to work out, but just because I feel 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.640 like a hypocrite if I don't say that, Because I 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.400 sat there here in this chair the day after the 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.040 forty nine ers game and said, they've got to address 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.880 a line with their first pick. So and they tried 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.479 to do that, and according to their board. Another board 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.120 always can be wrong, and often is. It's just the 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.760 way the draft goes. They saw value in that pick 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.040 at sixteen overall compared to the twenty fourth pick, so 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.640 they're in their mind they're not reaching. I think the 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.960 disappointment that you're speaking about Kyle is he wasn't a 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.599 known name coming into this draft. In fact, his name 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.839 did not really surface about forty eight hours before the 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.080 pick was mad as a potential Cowboys pick. Until then, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.720 they kind of kept it from everybody else because they 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.880 worked him out personally and really liked him. But again, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.560 who knows who knows. They're looking at it from a 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.400 standpoint of left guard year one. I don't think they 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.440 make this pick if they don't think he can be 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.680 that guy right away and left tackle in whatever year 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.520 you want to say it is whenever Tyrann Smith that 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.040 era ends. And if you look at it from that 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.279 two punch approach, the pick makes a lot of sense. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.599 That being said, who knows, because there's a lot of 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.000 really good players picked right after him that could have 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.040 very good NFL careers. So that's the fun part of 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.360 the draft. Immediately after him, immediately immediately guys on defense 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.720 that could make a big impact for Dame Quinn. And 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.920 so that's that's the beauty of the draft. Man, you 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:21.200 just don't know, Isaiah. I like the pick number, the 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.440 number one pick. I had no no, no quandaries about it, 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.560 nothing at all. I felt good about the number one 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.440 pick for those exact reasons, and I don't know why 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.880 everybody was up in arms about it. I knew exactly 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.880 what the game was. Well, he did absolutely Other names 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.480 we liked along the way. There were the Zion Johnsons, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.600 the Kenyan Greens, the Tyler Linder Bombs that we had 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.680 kind of tabbed that we be there. We talked about 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.360 those guys. But when they when when they when they 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.720 show his highlights, I get it right, He's the size 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.640 we need. He the aggressiveness that he has directly affects 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.200 that the portion of what we sat here and talked 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.360 about last week. The run game has to get going. Sure, 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.320 absolutely this This team is crap on offense unless the 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.640 run game is rolling. So that's what he does, right. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.600 He run blocks really well. So that's one of the 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.160 things that they're gonna do. Heats a plug and play 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.120 guy at the offensive guard position, and I knew immediately 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.960 that the game plan was he's the replacement for Tyron. Right, 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.000 he's the exactly, he's the guy as soon as he retires. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.080 All right, buddy, you're now playing left tackle. And at 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.480 that point in time, we would have already addressed the 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.320 backup guard position or whatever that may be, or maybe 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.480 they address it in that year's draft whenever they find 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.880 out about Tyrant whenever year that is. But this was 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.280 a great, great game plan for round one. I am 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.760 all about their decision around one. We'll talk about the 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:32.640 rest later. Well, you know, not to be redundant, because 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.120 you guys outlined it perfectly and I agree with both 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.600 of you, and I think Kyle, come on, man, you guys, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.480 would you just just bake this fan base for like 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.920 two months into a frenzy right before the draft, and 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.080 their expectations were so high with that pick. I don't 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.200 think that it could be met unless it just with 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.160 the first pick in the draft. There's something half of 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.200 the Dallas Cowboys and moved up from twenty four, like 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.760 something crazy like that could have happened, and that's the 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.600 only thing that would have satisfied the fan base. But 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:01.960 I think all in on when you look at the 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.720 NFC East, it was other teams that I kept looking 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.199 at and going, oh my god, they did what And 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.800 so you know, I mean I showed a lot of 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.480 people a lot of love, and then they go to 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.520 our rivalry and arrival teams and I told you guys 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.319 in the text, I was like, this guy isn't dead 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.960 to me now, Yeah, I love them. Then I won't 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.560 even speak his name. We're gonna talk about it later. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.439 But it really was. It was just one of those 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.760 drafts where you were looking at around the league and 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.960 asking yourself, like, you know, come on, Tennessee, what did 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.160 we do to you? You know, why did you why 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.240 would you make that trade? You know we would we 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.680 would have made that trade with you, did you know? 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.640 But those were the things that happened, and you've seen 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.760 other teams start to get better that you questioned the pick. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.600 We knew all along that this team was thinking, look, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.000 we need a left guard. Oh yeah, they couldn't have 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.040 been thinking anything else. And I think as far as 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.280 much as the fan base think that there's a disconnect 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.440 with the front office, that really isn't. They addressed all 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.960 of the needs that you have, and so they checked 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.840 every box in It may not have been the guy pee. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.720 I had no idea who this guy was. I even tweeted, 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.760 I said, look, if you had him picked, you have 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.800 a crystal ball. The only place I saw him was 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.440 in Kyle's draft book as a guard and he was 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.600 a tackle, and so that's how I even figured out, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.120 you know who he was. But guys that the men 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.480 had him as a guard in my in my book, yes, yeah, yeah, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.160 you had him as a guard. He's a tackle. Again, 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:21.839 I'm looking, I'm looking at the tackles. I'm like, he's 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.120 not even tackle. The reason why I had him as 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:25.880 a guard was because when we heard his name for 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.200 the first time at the combine, they had him as 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.240 a guard. So crossed the building. A nugget for you 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.160 right there, guy did right in playing sight, I thought 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.120 it was a fifty six nugget and not a twenty 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.200 four nugget At the time, that was my biggest thing. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.240 But I'm right there with him, no, and so I 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.520 think that's the surprising thing. But guys, as you look 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.200 at the fan base and and you've talked about this 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.720 to Rob, everybody wanted to move Leo Collins to left guard. 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.800 Nobody was was you know, they no one said anything 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.080 about that because you'd seen him do it. And even 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.040 when you talk about Tyren Smith and where he is 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.560 in his career as an injured Hall of Famer, future 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.880 future Hall of Famer, but often injured at this point 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.760 in his career, maybe that would have been the move 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.160 to move him down to guard because it limits his space. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.160 Nobody can understand that perceptionally, but if you're a football player, 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.160 you understand. Look, you just take that guy off the 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:14.880 island and give him less room to work with and 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 help on both sides. But that's the same thing that 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.640 people are thinking. That's what this this this the draft. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.720 The guys they thought, the scouts excuse me, they thought 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.079 about Smith is that he could go from left tackle 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.480 to left guard to a big Peters. Peters went an 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:30.800 inside it and he went to a new team and 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.240 they try to put him at left tackle. He was like, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.400 wait a minute, you gotta up the check. Yeah, the 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:38.319 pay Peters. It was the Eagles went to the Eagles, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.079 they had him at left guard and they were like, yeah, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.640 you know what, we'll swing, you have to tackle and 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.199 he's like different places and tackle money. Yeah. And that's 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.400 the same thing that you hear with Deebo and what 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.640 he's doing at Alan Frisco. There's a lot of that 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.840 going on. And really I just want to make sure 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.640 that I don't do not forget this, but the draft 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.320 really was weird this year, especially for the running back position. 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.800 I think people are talking about quarterback running back position. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.400 To me, it's really mysterious how they're trying to devalue 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.800 the position. Breece Hall was one of the best running 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.560 backs in the draft. I don't care. He was the best, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.520 one of the best guys in college, one of the 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.360 best guys in high school. And for him to drop 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.520 into the second round that was that was really trippy. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.800 But that just tells you where the NFL is going. Yeah, 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.800 running backs become a day three. Position man, it's it's 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.599 day two at least, and sometimes day three because a 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.679 lot of backs got taken on day three. One other 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.319 thing about Tyler Smith, and Nick wrote about this yesterday 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.640 on the website. He talked to Tulsa's head coach Philip Montgomery, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:37.000 and I heard this too that it almost changes your 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.360 perspective if you were on the fence or you don't 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:43.719 like this pick. If he were to have transferred from 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.560 Tulsa next year to a top program, which was a 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.439 I don't know if it's a possibility, but teams were 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.719 interested in him if he had played for a big 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.400 time program next year coming from Tulsa been their starting 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.880 left tackle. Where's he going in the draft next year? Though? 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.160 And I think I think when I heard that, it 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.960 kind of changed my perspective of this is a very 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.439 talented young guy who turned twenty one, twenty one three 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.120 weeks ago, which is awesome, and he's got a transition 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.360 to make. He hasn't played guards since senior year of 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.480 high school, so there's a transition here. The penalties were 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.760 a problem at times. That's another thing you hear about 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.000 where some of that was he's knocking the crap out 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.320 of guys, and that's that's that's better than technique issues 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.079 or things like or pre snap stuff. Yeah, but they 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.600 can teach you. But their offense was a high temple offense, right, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.120 and they so I think I think last time I 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.040 check out that he ran two hundred and fifty more 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.320 plays in the next man up. Yes, So if they 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.719 gave you more opportunities to have more penalties, nobody's on 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.040 the island, right, You're on an island at the tackle position. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.000 Now you're gonna be sandwiching between two other three hundred 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.199 plus pound man. You're not gonna have to worry about 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.720 those things. Yeah, a lot of snaps in that in 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:54.280 that regard, You're right, and just meeting seeing him on Friday, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:58.360 I think Jerry Manthecparrison to Tirant. He's flows ll big. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.000 He is a huge offensive lineman. And when you think 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.280 about okay, lack of experience and guard, the physical size 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.280 and strength and power and nastiness, that's exactly what they 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.640 wanted left guard. That's what we've been talking about. They've missed, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.440 especially in certain matchups. So I'm not saying this pick 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.920 is gonna work, but I understand the thinking, and I 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.960 understand the upside, especially when you're picking in the back 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.640 half of the first round. I mean, it's there's no 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.560 guarantees in the twenties, you know, sometimes there's no guarantees 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.320 in the team and the tens or the teens well. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.760 And it's also the fact that fans and at the 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.000 time it felt like they had reached on him, and 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.920 I just get that. I get that zero reach. But 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.920 he just he's not He's not Kenyan Green, he's not 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.800 the names we've been talking about. Tyler Hendebaum gets picked 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.560 right after, and that's another pick that, hey, we're gonna 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.000 be watching in three years what happens with these picks. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.480 That's yeah, I get it. I will say the thing 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:55.000 with the reaching, the narrative not true because Tennessee was 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.400 on the phone. Tennessee was calling to trade up to 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:03.000 twenty four. They wanted to go offensive line. Dallas said no, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.200 thank you, hung up the phone, and then immediately Tennessee said, oh, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.920 they just took Tyler Smith, let me trade back, and 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.720 they trade it out of their spot at twenty six. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.440 So the Cowboys knew that they had their eye on 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.880 Tyler Smith at least Tennessee did so other NFL teams 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.720 were right there in terms of the value of where 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.960 he was taking, what they were doing in the way 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.480 that he fell on the back half of that first round, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.920 and so the Cowboys feel really really good about that. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.920 So with that being said, let's move on to the 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.920 second round. In third round, We're gonna bunch these two 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.640 players together because I feel like both Sam Williams aka 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.200 d Williams is what he wants to go by as 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.000 an edge rusher in the NFL, taken at fifty six, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.640 followed by Jaylen Tilbert at eighty eight, and heckma, I 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.400 mean there was talk that Tolbert would have been the 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.280 pick at fifty six. How do you feel about the 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.800 way that those two picks worked out for the Cowboys 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:56.960 in Day two? Man, I think your scout's are ecstatic 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.920 that it works out that way, Especially if you have 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.280 a grade on these guys, you still end up getting 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.760 both of the guys that you targeted. You know, no 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.440 one is able to get exactly what you want. But 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.120 I think when it comes to Sam Williams, he was 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.120 a guy that Jerry sent Dan Quinn to go and 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.000 look at. So that to me that's another bread chrome 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.480 that you kind of you didn't have to do much research. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.360 Dan Quinn's out here giving you a personal workout. Yeah, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.960 we have interest in you. So look just like you 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.200 talk about the rest of this draft. I think the 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.160 really curious thing was so many guys getting drafted so 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.360 high and not having the production to go with it. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.960 I call him Valentine's Day guys. But there's a lot 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.640 of that where the production didn't meet where they were 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.720 draft to think about when you got drafted, man, where 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.280 these the way that these guys Bernie made off here. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.200 You know you would you would be happy to be 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.720 in a situation like this. But Sam Williams, to me, 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.720 the production was there from college. I think he's a 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.080 guy that can come into your defensive rotation. And I'm 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.200 not going to call him a one trick pony, but 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.480 if he is that one trick pony, he does that well. Yeah. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.640 And if I say I just hey, just pining your 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.240 ears back and go after people, yeah, he can do that. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.280 And the wide receiver from Alabama what we need Alabama 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:14.520 South Alabama my best big difference South Alabama. Look all 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.040 this tough guy talk, all that, you know, we need 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.120 a guy that go get the rock. That's what we need, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.680 and that's what he does does. He goes and he 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.159 gets the rock and he look for He's a superior 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.879 enough route runner that I think this offense won't be 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.720 hard for him to pick up. He goes and he 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:33.760 grabs the ball, and I think, if you're a quarterback, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.720 that's your best friend. If I can trust you and 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.720 you have taping. They talk about Dak calling him, that's 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.959 to me, that's all about saying, we want to make 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.720 sure that we get you the right guy. And that's 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.320 what I loved about Sam Tober. He just seemed like 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.359 the right guy for Dallas at that pick. It's funny 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.960 because you mentioned the route running and his ability to 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.560 go up and get the football. I mean, they're both great, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.400 but the biggest thing for him in terms of being 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.919 a Dak receiver or a guy that could fit Dad, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.840 he creates his own separation. And that's something that a 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.280 lot of times didn't necessarily work out with Amari Cooper. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.919 Mark Cooper was a great route runner, there wasn't always 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.320 that big window of separation. You're hoping Jaylen Tolber could 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.360 do that, much like how Amari or excuse me much, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.320 how like Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup have done. Yes, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:19.720 he can go up and get the football and he 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.960 can make contested catches, but he brings separation to his game. 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.280 And Isaiah, I know you've you've talked about that at 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.159 an extensive Dack's not going to throw it in the 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.560 tight window. He's gonna take care of the football. Can 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.880 Jaylen Tolbert help in that regard. I think he can. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.840 I think he's a shifty guy that you need if 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.120 you're gonna go receiver. Obviously at that point in time. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.240 He's a style of receiver that you need. You see 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.080 some of these other teams like Green Bay going with 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.680 the big six four cats, and I don't think that's 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.520 what Dallas needed. I think this the trailing Burks of 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.600 the world. Yeah, yeah, I don't think they need that 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.840 style of receiver. I mentioned last week how Dallas needed 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.080 a shifty, you know, Wes Wilker ish type guy. I 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.159 don't think he's that, but I do think that he 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:58.920 fits the mold of terms of being able to move 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.320 the chains, and that's ultimate based upon his draft, that's 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.480 the direction they're going. They didn't really go with on 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.280 offensively goal with anybody really explosive in that regard. They 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.280 just like for guys that are gonna be sure things, 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:14.000 sure blockers, sure catchers, move the chains. That's an interesting point. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.120 I haven't necessarily thought of it that way. I want 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.120 to get your thoughts first. No, for sure, I mean, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.520