1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: M HM live from the Beautiful Cowboys Club at the 2 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. We welcome you to our brand new 3 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: edition of Cowboys Crosstalk, presented by s WBC Mortgage as 4 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: we look ahead to the Dallas Cowboys in the Philadelphia Eagles. 5 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Week six of the NFL season is upon us, and 6 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: it's a divisional matchup unlike any other, the undefeated Eagles 7 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, they're gonna welcome in a red hot Dallas 8 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys team. But first let's introduce what our panel looks 9 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: like today. It's a little bit different this week. Filling 10 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: in for Kevin Gray, I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad to be 11 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: with you and hopefully we have some fun here over 12 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: these next sixty minutes or so alongside Dallas Cowboys dot 13 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: COM's very own Rob Phillips. Rob, How's it going very well? 14 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: How are you? Kyle? Very much? So good? And of 15 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: course we're going into our first Cowboys cross Talk together. 16 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Nate Newton is a veteran of Cowboys Crosstalk. Nate, how's 17 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: it going? What are you laughing at? We continuing the show. 18 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: He's no problem. How are you doing very well? How 19 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: are you doing well? Are you. We're from the TV 20 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: side of things, so it's a little bit different today. 21 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Just being polite, just being polite. How are you, Nate. 22 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Rob. Rob got the lavish enunciation, yes, 23 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: no doubt. And that that fourth voice you here is 24 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: Rocket Ismayel, former Dallas Cowboy and Hall of Famer from 25 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: the collegiate ranks during your time in Notre Dame. Rocket, 26 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show first time this season. How's it going? Excellent? 27 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: Everything is going very very well, can Rocket myself. We're 28 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and on one of 29 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: five three the fan as well in the Dallas Cowboys 30 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: Radio network. So, gentlemen, this team is four and one. 31 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys are four and one. They have a chance to 32 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: go for first place in the division coming up on 33 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football against Philadelphia. Rocket, I'll start with you. You 34 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: You came in red hot wanting to talk about this defense. 35 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: You're a wide receiver, yet you're wanting to talk defense. 36 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Why is that? Well, I am a former Cowboys hater 37 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: because I grew up at Pittsburgh Stills fans, and one 38 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: of the things that I hated about the Cowboys was 39 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: what was known as the Doomsday defense, right, I'm just 40 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: here to ask a question. Is it premature to speak 41 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: the next generation of doomsday is potentially on the scene? 42 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Is that? Am I premature? And my drunk from the 43 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: victory over the defensive Super Bowl chapter? Is that where 44 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I am right now? I just I'm asking you guys 45 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: think you know this? Is? This question was brought to 46 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: me a couple of days ago, and I want to 47 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: wait until after Thanksgiving before I answer that. Okay, but 48 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: I will probably see you again before that. My boy, 49 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Rob our cow Cow can answer this. I can answer it. 50 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't around to see the doomsday I 51 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: don't think this is a great place for me to 52 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: really talk about a lot of the guys who I 53 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: wondered that doomsday defense? So Rob, what do you think? 54 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: I was not around either? But what's going on here? 55 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna defer to Nate and Rocket on this. 56 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of polls going around on Twitter 57 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: about this new like, let's let's name this defense, whether 58 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: it's Doomsday two or three or whatever, Let's name them 59 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: something because of the way they're playing right now. Though Okay, 60 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: may maybe they've earned that. I don't know. Based off 61 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: of last year too, maybe they're on their way anyway. 62 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: The things I used to hate about the Cowboys was 63 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: doomsday and Captain come back. They were always coming back, 64 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: They're always in the super Bowl. They were also my mind. 65 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: Once the Rams game was happening and I'm watching it, 66 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: then I rewatched the highlights. I was like, man, this 67 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: is okay. I was so I don't know how you 68 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: guys felt after that got injured. I was like, oh boy, 69 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: there it is. And then all of a sudden, you 70 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: two games, three games, four games, Oh wait, wait a minute, 71 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: what the I just going? And so because the defense 72 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: is playing, to me lights out. And when I say 73 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: to me, I'm a cashual observer, I'm not just you know, 74 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: like invested like I was when I was playing. But 75 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: then to see that they're able to man how many 76 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: points we had a twenty something, I was like, man, 77 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I would have thought we probably if you would have 78 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: said before the game twenty two points was gonna win 79 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: out there or you're out of your mind? You crazy? Yeah, 80 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: And so to be able to handle that kind of pressure, 81 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: and it was in La, it was a it was 82 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: a surprise, to say the least to me, and now 83 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: that Philly, so another test. We got the mighty Philadelphia 84 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: Eagles up going up to their place. Um, I'm I'm 85 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: really excited and I don't say that often, but I'm 86 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: really excited to actually to watch the game, and I'm 87 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: really looking forward to what we really are being revealed 88 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: and hopefully what we were last week is what we 89 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: really are. And that's the really the interesting thing about 90 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: this whole run for the Cowboys is specifically you've gone 91 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: up against the AFC reigning champions in the Cincinnati Bengals 92 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: in Week two. Check won that game. That was your 93 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: first win of the season. You've now beaten the reigning 94 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions at their place It's so Fi Stadium 95 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: last week. But yet everybody still says exactly what you're saying, 96 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: and it's got a valid point. Do we really know 97 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: what this team is especially offensively behind Cooper Rush, not 98 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: without or not with Dak Prescott at this very moment. 99 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: But Nate, you're probably the wrong person to talk to 100 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: because you're one of three people in the world that 101 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: never pick against the Cowboys. That's Jerry Jones, Michael Irvin, 102 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: Nate Newton. Those are the three people in the entire 103 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: planet that have never ever picked against the Cowboys. So 104 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: when you look at this offense, do you think they 105 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: have an idea at the moment? And you think, oh, yes, photo, yes, 106 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: they have the identity. And I get knocked around on 107 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: our Pope, on our podcast shows. I get knocked around 108 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: at different venues that I do. We have our identity 109 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: and thanks to Zeke, it is a physical identity. Our 110 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: offensive line loves where we're trying to go with this. 111 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: We have identity that we are run team due to 112 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't have Dak at this time, 113 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: due to the fact that we completed on the ten 114 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: passes last week. So we do have identity. Is defense 115 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: that's physical and that's ferocious, and there's an offensive line 116 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: that's willing to block physical and we've got a running 117 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: back that opens things up for that home run hitter, 118 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, Ezekiel Elliott, who opens things up for Tony 119 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Pola to be that change of pace guy. So we 120 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: have identity. But will it be as my man rocket, 121 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: because say, will will it the prophecy to be fulfilled? 122 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: That is the question. And honestly, that's the identity you 123 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: had in the nineties. Now that's a different team, and 124 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about multiple Hall of Famers and all. But 125 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: for what Cooper Rush brings to the table and what 126 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: the defense, Mike McCarthy said it this week. We are 127 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: a defensive first football team. This is coming from a 128 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: coach that going back to Green Bay offense first with 129 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Packers and all that stuff. That's 130 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: playing to your strengths of your football team as your 131 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: head coach, and so that is what they're leaning on. 132 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: That's what they have to lean on until Dad gets back. 133 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: And even when Dad gets back, there's nothing wrong with 134 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: having Dak Prescott lean on the run game and play 135 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: to the strengths of this football team, which is the 136 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: defense and keeping them fresh throughout the game, because that's 137 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: the biggest strink you have. You know. You know, I 138 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: laughed because when when I first heard that, coach said, 139 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: and I think I saw him and heard him with 140 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: my own years and eyes say, in the spring, we 141 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: really believe that this is where we was going defensively. 142 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: That's what they decided. Yeah, yes, And I really think 143 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: with the loss of Dak accumulated with the loss to 144 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay really put that in gear. Don't you 145 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: think because it didn't look like that first game with 146 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: Dak chunking that ball all over the place, that they 147 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: really believe that the defense was all what it is 148 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: until after that loss, it didn't look like that, and 149 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: then going into the second week, you really could believe it. 150 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: In this past week going into La So fine, I 151 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: like that name, so Fie. Wow, I'm excited, Kyle, I'm excited. 152 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Just so why to be excited about rocket? Hey? So 153 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: to your point, and I mean, well, I wasn't excited. Okay, 154 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I wasn't excited, but I believe the 155 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: circumstances forced the hand for what you said, coach, start 156 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: in the spring would be the identity, at least defensively. 157 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: And so if that is the identity, you know you 158 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: have to be a team that can run the ball 159 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: and that that going down force that to be made 160 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: manifests sooner than late. So hey, I'm excited about that. Yeah, 161 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: it is exciting to look at Now. Is there a 162 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: weakness at this point? At least from what you saw 163 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: against Los Angeles? And you've seen over these last three 164 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: or four games. You've been winning these games, but it 165 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: hasn't been perfect. Rob when you look at this Cowboys team, 166 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: where could there be some improvements heading into this week 167 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: against Philadelphia, where, of course you're gonna have to be 168 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: nearly perfect. Well, I think Mike said it today in 169 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: this press conference, agreed with the reporter asking the question. 170 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: I think it was ed Warder, and I think Zeke 171 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: echoed it today. They've they've got to score more points. 172 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's twenty two. I mean rocket use listed 173 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: off twenty two points. That's that's great, but that's asking 174 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: your defense to do a lot a lot week to week. 175 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: And maybe they can do it, maybe every single week 176 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: they can hold teams under twenty. But that's asking a 177 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: lot in today's NFL. I don't want to have any maybes. 178 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: I just want to have things that are certain. You 179 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: say there's a weakness. I don't. I don't need at 180 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: my age, I don't need the level of adrenaline and cortisol. 181 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: That's the lease. Every time the offense gets out there 182 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, we need that to happen. We 183 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: need seven, we need six, we need seven, and then 184 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: maybe a field goal comes out of it, or you 185 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: get some field position that the other team has to 186 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: go eighty ninety yards to put the ball in the 187 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: end zone. So I don't like the maybe aspect of it, 188 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I agree with you if there 189 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: is a weakness, being able to for sure put points 190 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: on the board in a big way is definitely the 191 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: glaring one. Yeah, there's a couple of ways that you're 192 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to do that. Defensively. You saw it right 193 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: at the first drive of the ball game, Durrance Armstrong 194 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: coming off the edge, strip sack and then DeMarcus Lawrence 195 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: recovers it and takes it for a touchdown. That type 196 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: of defense is gonna win you games. And we had 197 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: talked about it. You guys even mentioned it last week 198 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: on this show. Nate. Whenever I went back and listened 199 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: to it on Cowboys Cross Talk, you said, the offense 200 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: has to score first. You gotta go. If you're Quinn, 201 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: go knock on the door. This is exactly what you said, 202 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: knock on the door of Kellen Moore and ask him 203 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you score first. Well, he didn't 204 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: even have to do that because the defense went and 205 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: did it. When's the last time you've seen a defense 206 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys be able to do that and flex 207 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: her muscle so early on to where it sets the tone, 208 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: and as Mike mccarthyer set set the temperature for this team. 209 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: I think my second year a Super Bowl run, our 210 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: defense was like that that could take over a game 211 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: at any time because we're a top five defense basically 212 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: like this team as the top five I think not 213 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe statistically, but when you look at the eye test, 214 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: their top five team and they go back to that 215 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: weakness thing. Fellas. I'm gonna continue to say this, and 216 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: I've said it all last year and I'm saying it 217 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: again this year. As much as I love Michael Gallop, 218 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: it's love, as much as I love Ceedee Lamb, they 219 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: gotta learn how to catch the small ball. Because they 220 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: catch the small ball and stopped with the drops of 221 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: the third and fives or third and six, is this 222 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: team can go down to field methodically because you don't 223 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: have the explosiveness right now, because your quarterback can't throw 224 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: that long ball or your offensive line can't block long enough. 225 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: So these guys got to take in their heart that 226 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: every pass is the last pass of their careers and 227 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: make sure they catch it so now you can continue 228 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: to drive because that is where the good teams nowadays 229 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: can go thirteen plays, can go twelve plays back to 230 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: back to help your defense win games. And that's where 231 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: we can if that's what I think we have a 232 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: weakness at right now. Now, that's really the only weakness 233 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: I think on the offensive side of the football. Maybe 234 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of things that you can look at, 235 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: and we'll continue to dive into that a little bit forward. 236 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: But I want to come back on the other side 237 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: of the break, and I want to look at this 238 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Philadelphia team. 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Visit SWBC mortgage dot com to 254 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: find up road Today back here with Rob Phillips, s 255 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, rocket Ismael, I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. 256 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: You're on one to five three the fan in Dallas 257 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com And all right, Nate is Philadelphia Eagles 258 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: team five and zero. Yeah, they're gonna host this Dallas 259 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys team coming up in Week six of the NFL season. 260 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: This is only the third time, the third time that 261 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: the NFC East has had a matchup of two teams 262 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: with a combined winning percentage of more than ninety at 263 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: any point in the season ever. I mean other than 264 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe like week one or week two. I think it's 265 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: after Week five is the stat It's only the third time, 266 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: and it's the first time since nineteen ninety two. How 267 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: big of a game is this really? For the Cowboys 268 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: to get a win in is huge because the implications 269 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: of where you set at the end of the year 270 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: in the NFC playoffs, and do you have a chance 271 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: to truly win in the NFC East, Because at the 272 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: beginning of the year all of us collectively say, oh man, 273 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: the East, so weak man and cowboys to sleepwalk through it. Well, 274 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're not in first place and 275 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: you barely in your tie for second place. You know 276 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: you got one game on the Giant. So here we set. 277 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: This is a big game for me mentally. The hostile environment. 278 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: And I heard Mark, I've ever been talking about that. 279 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Are they gonna be prepared for the hostile environment? Whether 280 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: you up or down? Right now? Are you gonna be 281 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: physically ready to play sixty minutes of football? Because the 282 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Eagles required that. Look at their wins and losses. They've 283 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: been high scoring and they've been close, so they've been 284 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: straining every week. Now we've been straining too. But can't 285 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: we get up to catch up or can't we get 286 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: down to keep them down? You see what I'm saying. 287 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Use that in some maybe this is the most complete team. 288 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Daddy is the maybe's mama's are for showing up and 289 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: that is the Philadelphia Eagles. Bro. But to believe that 290 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: dad is baby. Maybe daddy maybe either, but daddy's baby, 291 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But we know the mama's 292 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: for real. Yes, sir, I shouldn't have came from the 293 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: hood like that. I'm sorry, that's hood talk. I'm gonna 294 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: come back to reality. I'm in the Cowboys Club. Yeah, yeah, Rocket. 295 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: When you look at this matchup, first off, I mean, 296 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: you've played in Philadelphia. How tough is it to play 297 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: in that? Iron man? Philadelphia is a place where you 298 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: have to go in guns blazing on every level of 299 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: mental every level, everybody ready to move, everybody ready to 300 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: move as one unit. I have my thoughts about Philadelphia 301 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: when I was here. Our nightmares the first and the 302 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: reason why is because in ninety nine went up there 303 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: and Mike, who was the heart and soul of the team, 304 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: he goes down like the I don't know the maybe 305 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: in the first quarter sometime, and it was just like 306 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: you could. It was like, no matter how much you 307 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: wanted to just be in a mindset where you like, 308 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: regardless week, we got it. Man. It was something I 309 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: could just if something was missing and I was like, 310 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: oh my god, well Mike, when Mike levels like the 311 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: air went out. The air went out, the healing him 312 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: all types of nitrogen particles. It was crazy, and so 313 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: so I remember that. And then the second time in 314 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: two thousand, I remember on the they were like they 315 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: would you man the defen Jimmy Johnson defensive coordinator, was 316 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: that and I remember he had a certain blitz package 317 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: where he would just send to everybody and we had 318 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: certain ways and there were there was a zone blitz 319 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: and I remember I was in short. Emmett was going 320 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: to be off tackle going left. I'm on the right side, 321 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: and so I see the defensive end dropped back like 322 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: in a zone kind of a disguise, and I peeked 323 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: inside and I saw Emmett get shut down on the 324 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: left and I saw him cut back and I was like, 325 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: oh no, he's about to get got. So I literally, 326 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: instead of just going into the secondary, which I was 327 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: supposed to do, I decide I gotta save Emmett Smith. 328 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: And I remember stepping in front of the defensive end 329 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: and try to box him out. And this cat the 330 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: d N at the time, it's probably about he maybe 331 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: was like on a light side of three hundred, and 332 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: I just remember trying to box him out, and then 333 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: the next thing, I remember, my knee moved in a 334 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: way that it wasn't supposed to move, and then I 335 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: couldn't straighten it out and my season was over. Acl 336 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: mc my nisk gets the whole thing. So my the 337 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: reason I brought up all that is because my memories 338 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: of that environment is a hostile environment. To your point 339 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: in Nate is a very hostile environment, and you have 340 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: to be like, your mindset will be exposed in regards 341 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: to who you really are. And if they really aren't 342 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: the if they're not that going up into that environment, 343 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna get I'm sorry for everybody who's in their 344 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: car right now who's listening to this and they're just 345 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: they're just driving. I could just imagine a family of 346 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: four in their minivana just six thirty five right now, 347 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: going down the street in Dallas and they just hear 348 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: that we just had a timberwolf siding in the Cowboys club. 349 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: That decius. You would think they would have gotten those 350 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: things out of there by now, but that but that's 351 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of the the environment that Philly is. It's unexpected, 352 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: and like you said, I'm sorry first off to bring 353 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: up even some of the nightmares up you had to 354 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: go through good. I'm who is who is the one 355 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: responsible or who are the people responsible in making sure 356 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: that the mentality is right going into Philadelphia and going 357 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: into this matchup. So I'm gonna go to you, Nate 358 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: on that, defer to you on that. Just because I 359 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: don't know this team other than from the peripheral, I 360 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know the guys on this team what makes up 361 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: I would think the Marcus Larns would be one of 362 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: those guys, But like the who the leaders, who are 363 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: the guys I don't I don't really know. It's first 364 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: of all, it's gonna come from your defense and your 365 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: offensive line that mentality. Now is your offensive coordinator gonna 366 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: buy in where he's bought in because of how they 367 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: played this This thing of culture comes from how the 368 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: coaches practice what they stand for and don't stand for. 369 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: But it's up to them players, It's up to can 370 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: we get It'll be nice if we can get Wilson 371 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: to come right down the middle or that field and 372 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: just increase one of them running backs earlier, Donovan Wilson. 373 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: It would be nice to see Michael just ripped through 374 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback I mean, what if he gets even if yeah, 375 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: even if he get a penalty, don't hurt the quarterback 376 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: just ripped through him and take it. Just flip it, 377 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: just flip it. I mean a play like that will 378 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: set the tone. But these players got to feel that 379 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: way coming out of that locker room. Man, they got 380 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: to feel that way coming out of that locker room 381 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: that we will not be beat physically. And that is 382 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: what scares me about this Stallas Cowboys team is do 383 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: they have that? I know they didn't have it last year, 384 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: but do they have that? Now? We cannot be beat physically. 385 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: You man out after lead us, but you will not 386 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: out physical us. And that's well, that's that's mentality to happen. 387 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: What I would like to see just when you talk 388 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: to defensively, I would love and I believe they can 389 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: do it. I believe uh the law uh Micah can 390 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: make And what Jalen, what's this? This is the second 391 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: year is just hurts um Okay, so he's out, he's 392 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: he's really outside of that you know, young quarterback uh mentality? 393 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: So but they can still make him see ghosts? Ye 394 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: if they make if like if they can do things 395 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: to make him see ghosts, which is like he's flinching 396 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: or he's like okay here, if they can like just 397 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: getting next to him, I go touch him or at 398 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: least that would go a long way and setting the 399 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: mentality as well. Where would they have to do that, 400 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: rob with their speed, I don't I bet the Eagles 401 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: have not faced the defense yet. They faced some good 402 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: ones early, but not with the speed of this Cowboys 403 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: front at all three levels Like this is I don't know, 404 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: nay what you think. This is probably the fastest defense 405 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys I've seen in years, going back to 406 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: just Yes. I mean we had a player here, a 407 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: player there, we had d Lague, Yeah, I mean DeMarcus where. Yeah. 408 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about straight getting it. I mean Faull 409 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: Barron cooperator getting it in a man. I mean you 410 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: have Sam Williams who's a second round pick, who's barely 411 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: getting on the field, Like he got twenty five snaps 412 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: last week. You see his speed, You see how he 413 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: can close and finish place he could barely get on 414 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: the field right now. It's a second round pick. I 415 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: think that's it. But rockets right like I think I 416 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: think tanks the guy that you start with that comes 417 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: onto the field with that mentality throughout the week, through 418 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: the games. He's been enough of these games. And on 419 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: the other side, Jason Peters will see about his status 420 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: this week at the guard position. He's played in Philly 421 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: a long time. You know, pro bowlers, he knows, he 422 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: knows what this is like. You know, why wait, wait, 423 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: why not? Let's go what we got. We got a 424 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: rookie at the left tackle. We got U mcgovernor at 425 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: the left guard, we got Beyondest at the center, we 426 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: got all World at the right guard, we got uh 427 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: Still at the right tackle. Let's ride with that. I'm 428 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: fine with that. I mean, like helping the guys the 429 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: right mentality. Yeah, of coming into this gume. But I'm 430 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, man, the people that can get 431 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: the mentality going is the people that's gonna be on 432 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: that field. Man, that's gonna be rocking and and and 433 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: that's I mean, even that can be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'a. 434 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: But he's not on the field. But but I'm telling you, 435 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: when number ninety Jordan Davis sit up on that center, 436 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: and when and when number ninety one Ft Cox set 437 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: up on that right and left guard and be like, Yo, 438 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: what you got y while I hand the ball off 439 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: to this guy number twenty one, get after thank you 440 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: very much exactly. So I get what you're saying. But 441 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: I also understand what Rob saying as well, because Jason 442 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: Peters even said it today. It almost felt like he 443 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: was trying to set a tone when he was talking 444 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: to the media today. Now he said some words that 445 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: we can't say on this air because it's FCC regulated. 446 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: But there's there's things that he's doing now, even in 447 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: practice and in the locker room, that is helping these 448 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: guys prepare mentally for what they're about to go into. 449 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: And they see Philly every year, right Congress, they see 450 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: they go to Philly, they go to Lincoln Financial, They're 451 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: up there all the time. But why is this year different? 452 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Rocket just based off of the records, is it? Or 453 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: why is it different? It's different because both teams, I believe, 454 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: have exceeded preseason expectations. I don't know anybody, and I 455 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: don't know if any of you guys thought that the 456 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: Eagles were going to be like this. I a little 457 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: bit thought the Cowboys were. However, once after the first game, 458 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait a minute. Well, maybe we 459 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: got some way to go. Even before the first game happened. 460 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: If you would have told me you're four and one 461 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: after the first five weeks when you played the Bengals 462 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: and the Rams, who were both in the Super Bowl 463 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: last year, I take it. Yeah, I'm here, I'm all. 464 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. So I feel like the preseason 465 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: expectations and where they actually are. Everybody in the league 466 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: is pleasantly surprised and excited to see this matchup. That's 467 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: why it's a national matchup. Well, yeah, and the NFC 468 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: East is the best division in football right now based 469 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: on records, I would the best division in football right 470 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: now fourteen combined record. And it was funny about it, Nate, 471 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: is that going into the season, the four teams with 472 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the easiest schedules on paper this year was all the 473 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: NFC East teams because they're all playing each other because 474 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: they all suffered last year except for Dallas obviously and 475 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Philly had a good team. But but obviously Watchington New 476 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: York truggles. It's a it's a shift, and it's kind 477 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: of back to like you mentioned ninety two, this is 478 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: this is the last time we saw the division this 479 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: good this early in the season. And yeah, it's it's 480 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: big because it's not so much the records overall records. 481 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: It's one and oh Philly in division versus two and 482 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: oh Dallas in the division right now, and you know 483 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: this thing's gonna go all the way to the end, 484 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: and who's gonna get the early upper hand on the tiebreaker? 485 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to. No, you're exactly right. 486 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: This is the fourth time since the realignment of the 487 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: divisions in two thousand and two that it's division has 488 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: at least three teams that have started four and one 489 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: or better. It's only the fourth time that that's happened 490 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: since two thousand and two. So last twenty years, there's 491 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: only been four occurrences across football, not just the NFC East, 492 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: that three teams have been forward one or better in 493 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: the same division. So there's a lot of competition looking forward. 494 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: Now when we come back, let's talk a little more 495 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: about the ground game in this offensive line, whether or 496 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: not Jason Peters is ready, there are some decisions to 497 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: be made up front, and a couple guys for the 498 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys that will look to get back in the fold. 499 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: As we head into week six more Cowboys Crosstalk presented 500 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: by s WBC Mortgage is on the way. But first 501 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: SWBCPEO helping to alleviate the hr and administrative burden that 502 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: comes with running a business. 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I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're 513 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: with us on one oh five three the Fan and 514 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: of course Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Now we've got a 515 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: legendary offensive lineman. We've got a legendary wide receiver, so 516 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk offense here for the Dallas Cowboys. Moving forward, 517 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys four and one. It hasn't looked great on the 518 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: offensive side of the football, just one hundred and two 519 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: yards through the air last week for Cooper rushing company, Nate. 520 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: This is an opportunity for them to show that they 521 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: are going to get back on track, that they are 522 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 1: going to have an opportunity for this offense to click 523 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: even without Dak Prescott in the fold. But it starts 524 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: up front. You mentioned your starting five offensive lineman. Why 525 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: do you think you should stick with Connor McGovern over 526 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Jason Peters If Jason Peters is healthy going the end 527 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: of the week. You know, Kyle, we do subway shows together, 528 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: and an eyeball always expressed this, I need five guys 529 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: that are stable, and I need the same five guys 530 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: so they can work together, especially on the left Scott's 531 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: left side, when you have a young left tackle that's 532 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: trying to trying to build his confidence and get this 533 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: technique better. And I don't care if it's Jason Peters, 534 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: but I need him for sixty five plays. I don't 535 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: care if it's Connor McGovern, but I need him for 536 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: sixty five plays. I don't need all this switching in 537 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: and out and still you gotta the sinner gotta deal 538 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: with that, with that unevenness is what I call it, 539 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: because now you're getting on different levels. When you're coming off. 540 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: I want to know that when i'm duce blocking, when 541 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: men you getting hip to help side to side, that men, 542 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: you I know when what you are sinning is the 543 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: same thing I'm seeing. You know, we're only getting that 544 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: through repetition, through repetition, repetition, repetition, Thank you, it ain't 545 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: a repetition for repetition, and I need that. I need 546 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: to know that you're gonna snuggle up with me as 547 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: a sinner and we're gonna we're gonna do this. Dude, 548 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we ain't gonna talk 549 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: about it when we go up to the linebacker. You 550 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because we're seeing the same thing. 551 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: But if we got four or five different guys and 552 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: we're getting out too soon, now I'm gonna leave you hanging. 553 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna be overextended. And now I got a running back, 554 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: a quarterback saying hey man, what's going on? I got 555 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: an offensive quartinity to saying, you know what, we can't 556 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: do this because these two guys well, I need some continuity, man, 557 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: How big is that continuity? Rocket? I know you're you 558 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: were on the offensive side, but not necessarily an offensive lineman, 559 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: but it feels like it. That is a common topic, 560 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: especially around the last couple of years for the Cowboys, 561 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: is having continuity upfront. How big is that for an 562 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: offense to just complete itself as a whole. There is 563 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: no offense in the NFL unless your quarterback is a 564 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: super athletic can get out of three or four guys 565 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: way at one time, and that can last for maybe 566 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: a year year, maybe two years at the most. But 567 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: there's no offense in the NFL that succeeds at a 568 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: at a very high level that doesn't have some type 569 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: of continuity on the offensive line to start off with. 570 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: And football is one of the unique sports in that way. 571 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: Like you could have a dominant pitcher in baseball, you 572 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: could have a Michael Jordan's basketball you in football can 573 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: have you know, Ceedee Lamb on one side. Man, you 574 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: could have Michael Irvin on the other side. You can 575 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 1: have Troy and the Dog on backfield throwing to him. 576 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: And if the old line isn't put together like Nate's 577 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: old lines, were back in the day. You're gonna have 578 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: trouble against some formidable opponents. So it's very It's it's 579 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: like priority number one. The thing about it is Mark 580 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: two and a free agent. Ula Defen's relyma coming out 581 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: of Cotton, Nate Knew coming out of Florida, and m 582 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: Deveen's relyma moved offensive line. You got March step NASKI 583 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: third round pick, you got uh John Geesy draft I don't. 584 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: We got him from the Raiders in the trade, and 585 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: we got Kevin Golden outside. None of us were considered 586 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,479 Speaker 1: all world guys, but we had Tony Wire's office line 587 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: coach that overworked us to the point where we knew 588 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: and felt what each other did, and so we were 589 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: we were right. We knew on our douce blocks, our 590 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 1: trade blocks, or whatever the block was, how each guy 591 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: was gonna play two incaside, I need a hand. I 592 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: need a hand, you know, And I would put my 593 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: hand out there to make sure that Lawrence Taylor would 594 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: see that. So he wasn't just blitz inside or I 595 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: tell too, I need a hand. I need a hand. 596 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: Because Jerome Brown sitting on the wide three technique and 597 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: communication better be on point man. Yeah, that's yeah. But 598 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you is Philadelphia has Fletcher Cox, 599 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: and they had George Davis, and they have hard grades 600 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham on's outside, you know, and a lot of 601 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: these guys want to be silent, like I'm not gonna 602 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: let me. I was not let Tyrone Tyrone Tyler Smith 603 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: go out there, and I'm like, yo, bro, if you 604 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: don't know who to block, and we got to point it, 605 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: d dude, do it, do it. I'd rather for you 606 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: to know that I'm coming at you and I gotta 607 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: block you, then to sit up there and let this 608 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: kid block down with me and a guy in the end, 609 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: just go wide open on the end, no asking me. Man, 610 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: let's get this thing. I used to do it to 611 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: step a step who you got and we just point 612 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: to the guy who you got? Step who? I'm serious, 613 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: exactly who you got? But that comes with reps right yeah? 614 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: Together yeah together man, And we ain't even built a 615 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: little you know. I mean, we had our little five games, 616 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: you know, we had all en cryptic words and every 617 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: day or who I got because I wasn't doing those 618 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: studdings kind of shocks, you know what means yeah, and 619 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: does like a I feel like that's a not a Senate, 620 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: but I knew what it meant me either. I don't 621 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: think I could either, because that's what it is. Rob. 622 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: You watched the tape, you watch the film as well. 623 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: How would you grade out what Connor McGovern has done 624 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: at the left guard spot and is he the right 625 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: guy for the job right now? I think he's had 626 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: some good moments. I mean, i'll defer to Nate on that, 627 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: but I think he's had some good moments. I thought 628 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: they did some nice things against Aaron Donald, which is 629 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: not an easy thing to do a last Sunday um. 630 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: I think with Jason Peters, the plan, at least from 631 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: an outsider's view, is ramp him up game to game 632 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: to where he could take that job eventually. And I'm 633 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: but I'm with you. The rotating that's just not normal 634 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Then he gets hurt. So maybe 635 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: it is Connor mcgovernor's job for now. But I think 636 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: they've got to they need some stability there because you 637 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: do have a twenty one year old left tackle next 638 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: to him, and I think having a steady veteran presence 639 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: there is important consistently, so is that Peters or McGovern 640 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: because mcgovernor has had the STAPs, but Peters has had 641 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: the experience. So you have two thoughts of mind there. Well, 642 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it, but it comes down to availability. I 643 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: mean Peters has banged up right now, he says he'd 644 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: be ready to go. We'll see. There's been a ramp 645 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: up thing required with him. I think there's been some 646 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: conditioning that he's needed. I mean, he didn't have an 647 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: off season at all, so I think, you know, all 648 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: things being equal, I think Jason Peter's experience is what 649 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: you would want in there but for sixty plays, but 650 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 1: that hasn't been plays. Is he ready for that? He's 651 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: gotta be, I mean this week, this week six, this 652 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: week six, we got him on the in the first week, right, yeah, 653 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: and so he's round. He should be ready to even 654 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: if he goes in there, let him go fifty plays 655 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: and if he gets tired, so mcgovernor at the end 656 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: of the game. But don't this end and out, this 657 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: ind and out, because now you gotta look, can he 658 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: pull like Connor McGovern Can he wrap around and get 659 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: out in an open space? Can he still do that? 660 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: I've never used to do it? In Philadelphia. But I 661 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: was twenty years ago. Okay, can he still do that? 662 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: And I need to know this, but don't don't don't 663 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: keep playing this game because the season I ain't gonna 664 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: get lighter. Everybody's only gonna get better. What do you think, Rocket? 665 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: I agree. I'm just thinking about when you talk about 666 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: the conditioning and though it's week six and I was 667 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: in my mind like, oh yeah, week six, you should 668 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: be fine. However, the emotion that comes with the game 669 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: and just that you can't replicate a lot of times 670 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: in practice. However, because of being a veteran and knowing 671 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 1: how to get yourself ready, that could be a factor 672 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: in there. But I am I'll be concerned conditioning wise, 673 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: especially with this type of environment that we're going into 674 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: and being in and out, in and out. I think 675 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to have both. It's 676 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: a topic of conversation certainly, and I think it's going 677 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: to continue even past this week. Even once this week 678 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: comes to a close, I think it will continue because 679 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: Peters does give you depth on the offensive line. Now, 680 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: when we come back, I want to hear from Rocket 681 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: on just how he thinks this wide receiving Corps has 682 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: lived up to expectations, surpassed or maybe not so much. 683 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come back. More Cowboys 684 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: Cross Talk presented by s WBC from the Cowboys Club 685 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. In a moment on the 686 00:44:30,400 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, Oh Cowboys, cole was no cow 687 00:45:58,239 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 1: was cow Cowboys? S WBC mortgages Cowboys Crosstalk, Yeah, Broadcasting 688 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 689 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: Liberty Tax is a proud partner of the Dallas Cowboys. 690 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: Schedule an appointment today at Liberty tax dot com slash Cowboys. 691 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: It's the final segment here of Cowboys Crosstalk, presented by 692 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: s WBC from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 693 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: We've got a fantastic crowd tonight on man by the way, 694 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: so how about that give it up for everybody that's 695 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: made it out tonight. Everybody's been loud, they've been excited. 696 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: They're excited about this matchup on Sunday Night football, and 697 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: who wouldn't be. We're gonna give our predictions coming up 698 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: here in just a couple of moments. But Rob Phillips, 699 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: Nate Newton rocket Ismael I'm Kyle Yeoman's now rocket this 700 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 1: wide receiving Corps. Lots of expectations for Ceedee Lamb coming 701 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: into the season, Michael Gallop out for the first couple 702 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: of weeks of the season. Now he's back and ready 703 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: to go, at least seemingly for the weeks to come. 704 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: James Washington working his way back. Jalyn Tolbert's been on 705 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: the inactive list four out of five weeks. Have the 706 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: wide receivers lived up to your expectations or where would 707 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: you grade them to this point in the season. At 708 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: this point, my expectations were that if you were in 709 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: the number eighty eight four Dallas Cowboys, you have eighty 710 00:48:53,000 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: eight expectations and ability and that hasn't manifested yet the 711 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: way I would expect. And when I say that, when 712 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: when you have eighty eight, even if the other team 713 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: has saved that sometimes the double team, your roller covers 714 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: your way or put their best guy and you whatever, 715 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: you're still gonna get yours, even if it's not in bunches, 716 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: You're still gonna get yours. And I for me as 717 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: a receiver looking at them like I okay, well not 718 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: yet and so then with um, Michael being down, I 719 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: there are some number ones who with a tandem then 720 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: that that really helps. And I do know that Michael 721 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: has explosive capabilities in him. So only one game back, 722 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: I expect each game it's going to get better as 723 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: far as what he does what he does. But just 724 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: so I understand the conditions overall. If I'm my what 725 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: my expectations were coming into the season, just from a 726 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: receiver standpoint, I would say maybe a c uh maybe 727 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: C plus at the best. Yes, that that would be 728 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: how I would But you still have hope. Oh no, 729 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: I definitely feel And the reason I say there's so 730 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: much potential. It feels like the potential is just like 731 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: we just have to draw it out and we have 732 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 1: to be like, and what is this year two? Yeah, 733 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: it's three for Mike and and it was four or 734 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: five for Mike three, So about this time now, it 735 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: would have been cool if that didn't go down, But um, 736 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: about this time this is when you start like becoming 737 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: yourself if you will. And so because of those expectations, 738 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: that's the only reason I say. But there's nothing in 739 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: me that doesn't feel like rising to the occasion isn't 740 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: in them that they that that potential is there. But 741 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: if we don't want it to be potential for long, 742 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: we can't afford it just potential. We gotta see that 743 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 1: thing manifest. Gotta find a way prob Yeah, and and 744 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: and CD has progressively put up some numbers here, but 745 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: I think Nate hit on it earlier. Especially when your 746 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks in the game, you gotta make sure you're 747 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: hitting every single play for them. And there were some 748 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: misopportunities against the Rams that did cost them, right, but 749 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: Gallant makes a has a great route on third down drop. Now, 750 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: he made up for it later, but he could that 751 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: could he could still be going at that point with 752 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: the route he ran there CD with a drop into 753 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: the sideline. When you have your backup in the game, 754 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you're making in rocket nose. You 755 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta make every single play you can for him, 756 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: and go ahead, you fellas. It's I don't sweat a 757 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: lot of things. I'm always about joking, but Mike Irvin 758 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: has taught me those five and outs, those the short digs, 759 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 1: them short turnarounds, those out of player plays that make 760 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: you the player. Wa wa wa were receiving, where defensive 761 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: backs be like, this is gonna be an all day 762 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 1: and that's for the eighty eighth of the past. They're done. 763 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 1: This is an all day job, and CD is gonna 764 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: get there. I've always defended Hi him. I would continue 765 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: to defend him if somebody can get in his head 766 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: and say, man, if you catch that quick slanter, if 767 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: you you know, he's shown he could do it when 768 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: they had the CD deal a couple of weeks ago, 769 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: where he's just to do almost literally killed him and 770 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: he still came up with the ball. That's concentration as 771 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: the number one he has to continue to have all 772 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: the time. It's like what Cooper Cup does for LA. 773 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: You know what's going to him. You know he's running 774 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: a certain route, he's doing a specific thing, but he 775 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: still catches the football. How tough is that to manifest 776 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: in a receiver who may have all the talent and 777 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: all the athleticism in the world, but he just hasn't 778 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: shown that consistency yet. It's it's not tough because you 779 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: have the ability. It is tough because if it hasn't 780 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 1: consistently come to fruition, then all of a sudden you 781 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: might give, you might get in your head, so I'll 782 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: keep I'll keep it on that. The other thing I 783 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: wanted to say is that when you have a young quarterback, 784 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: and I count Cooper us has a young quarterback, and 785 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 1: especially the backup guy, the strong running game is his 786 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 1: best friend, and a good tight end or a good 787 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: slot receivers his best friend. Because that the tight end 788 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: in the in the slot, they're usually in front of him. 789 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: He can get the ball out quick and not have 790 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: to worry about getting crushed if the offensive line doesn't 791 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: have that continuity that we were talking about earlier. So uh, 792 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: from from a tight end perspective, I would definitely like 793 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: to see them get more involved than be focal points 794 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: in this week coming up as well. Man, I could 795 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: spend a whole hour talking about the tight end position. 796 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: I really could, because there's there's so many levels to 797 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: that with these two young guys, with Jake Ferguson and 798 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: Peyton Hendershot and then Dalton Schultz on the franchise tag. 799 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: But then you're bringing in a couple of guys Seth 800 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: Green off the Street signed to the practice squad this week. 801 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: That is a huge point for this offense. But we 802 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: aren't running out of time. So here on Cowboys Cross Talk, 803 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: it's time to give your predictions. They do it every week. 804 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips Cowboys Eagles, Sunday Night Football up at the link. 805 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: Who you got usually have till Friday. I gotta make 806 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: a pickre You gotta make a pick right now, but 807 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 1: you can do it on Talking Cowboys Friday. I'll take 808 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: I'll take the Cowboys because until the defense doesn't do 809 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,479 Speaker 1: it and and play the way they're playing, I'll ride 810 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,720 Speaker 1: with the defense until they don't. This is the toughest 811 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: matchup yet. And I said earlier the offense is gonna 812 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: have to do more. I think we talked about the 813 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: run game, but in addition to that, they got to 814 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: hit some chunk plays down the field the passing game 815 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 1: get some points on the board. But I'm gonna keep 816 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: ryan with the defense until until I'm going I'm going Cowboys. 817 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm going defense getting better more from the receivers to 818 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: go along with a potent running game and a consistent 819 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: running game that we can rely on tight ends in there. 820 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: Do we have to give a score or not? No, 821 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: you don't score, because I was gonna say is I 822 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 1: would you can if you want. Okay, I'm thinking twenty 823 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: four for us and for them, I'm gonna I'm like, uh, sixteen, 824 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: that's a the Cowboys. Ask score Nate, who you got 825 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys Forever? For one point one one to nothing, one 826 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: to fifty one. I will learn how to do a 827 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: backflip in front of you in the middle of Cowboys Club. Okay, yeah, 828 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: hold the two. Yeah, she's laughing. She's like, you couldn't 829 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: do a backflip if you learn about it? Took take 830 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: a year. Rocket. It's been so fun getting to sit 831 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: with you for a little bit and get to kind 832 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: of pick your brain back and forth. What's been going 833 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: on in your world and what's coming up next for you? 834 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: What's coming up next for me is I am going 835 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: to be a better parent in regards to raising young adults, 836 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: especially the kind of young adults where they don't really 837 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: have to listen to what you say, but you still 838 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: got to pay for a lot of stuff, you know 839 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm improving in that area of 840 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: her life. My wife and I tag team will been 841 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: married twenty seven years now, so uh, that's what's the next. 842 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: That's the next. Great adventure. That's awesome. Hey, that's as 843 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: real of an answer as you will ever get on 844 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: this show, and I absolutely respect that. It has been 845 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: so much fun. Rocket thinks so much for joining us 846 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: here on Cowboys Crosstalk. Rob Phillips and catch him on 847 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. He's on Talking Cowboys every single 848 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 1: day along the way, and you can of course catch 849 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,919 Speaker 1: his work on the website throughout as well. In Nate Newton. 850 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: You've got a pregame and postgame show coming up this week, 851 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: Pregame Live. You can catch him on Hanging with the Boys. 852 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Manifest Crypt beginning Crypt. That's what you're talking about, 853 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 1: a coruition. This has been so much fun here over 854 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: the last hour. I hope you had as much fun 855 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: as we did for everybody that was a part of 856 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: this broadcast on Cowboys Crosstalk. Will be back next week 857 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: for Rocket, for Nate, for Rob Phillips. I'm Kyle Yeoman. 858 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 1: So long everybody came. 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