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Jamal Crawford, Jamal, 132 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: how you doing, bro? 133 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: I'm going okay. We got to. 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: Ker all right. The trade at half of last night. 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Luca a superstar, beyond superstar, a global superstar in his 136 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: absolute He's not even here his prime yet, Jamal. He's 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: twenty five years of age, He's a five time first 138 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: team All NBA player. 139 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: And they trade him for Anthony Davis and a first round. 140 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Pick and I think twenty twenty nine and uh Max 141 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Christi And in return, the Lakers get Luca, they get 142 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Max Kleeber, and they get Mark Keith Marris, who was 143 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: already he was on the twenty twenty Laker team that 144 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: won the championship. So Lakers received Luca Maxi, kleeber markif Marris, 145 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 2: the MAVs get Anthony David, Max Christi and a twenty 146 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: twenty nine first round pick. Also, the Jazz received Jalen Hoods, 147 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: a Scarafino, a twenty twenty five second round pick, a 148 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five second round pick Bill the Clippers. 149 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: Jamal, when you heard this trade, I thought it was 150 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: bull jive. 151 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: I thought somebody had got hacked, because ain't no way 152 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: the mass of trade Luca, but Lloyd and behold, it 153 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: is absolutely true. Luka Doncic is on the move. Anthony 154 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: Davis going to the Mavericks. What is your assessment of 155 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: the trade. Why do you think this trade happened. 156 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: I'm a chill. I thought it was I thought it 157 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: was being guy the first two. 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 5: I ain't no way Luke's being traded, like you said, 159 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: all the exact the way he ain't. 160 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: Lucy's sign that. 161 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 5: And if I'm a young NBA star, I'm not comfortable 162 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 5: anywhere if Lucas can be traded at this stage of 163 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: clear where he's act where he was going. 164 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: Anybody be traded back. 165 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: I said last year on Shock's podcast, I said, if 166 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: I'm later, I'm looking at trade. At the day at 167 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: people thought I was trading. I said, Lebron is still 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: your best player right now. You got to have better 169 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 5: pieces accountingent. Yes on in the bubble, Yes, the Lebron 170 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 5: is still ain't looking why he's Lebron. So with that 171 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: being said, I gotta get piecing. I didn't know Luca's 172 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: on the play when they had who knew, but they 173 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 5: come to La I gotta take that beer. I have 174 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: to because now look for the now in the future, 175 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: as Lebron says, you know what. 176 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna wear it down. 177 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna hang it up whenever the idea is 178 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: one two three for me, you have a bonfire superstar. 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 5: But now we're just trying who other people want to 180 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: play that. Lucas backs off, so we know he's gonna 181 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: bring the Halloween lights to go and fix Hollyween and 182 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 5: Danger Book on the other side of Dallas. It's a 183 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 5: perfect compliment to Kyrie. They obviously they don't make you 184 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 5: more move They didn't trust the fact that they're gonna 185 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: have to be in Lupa almost four hundred million. 186 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: Dollars wherever it's going up to college. 187 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: See it's really loud right now because now we're looking like, 188 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 5: you know what happy trade to do like this? 189 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: They had to get stuff thing we don't know about, you. 190 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Know what you know? I also, I mean, I'm curious. 191 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking of the head a little bit. 192 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of a head little bit. Obviously it had 193 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: to be something internally for them to trade such a 194 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: great prayer like that, like like both you just said, 195 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: it's not even in his prime. So I'm looking forward 196 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: to obviously the future because Kyrie can opt out in 197 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: the summer, and what are the chances Kyrie actually joining 198 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: Lebron again. I'm assuming Lebron comes back next year as well, 199 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: and you have Luca, Kyrie and Lebron. 200 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 5: So for me, I think I always see back to 201 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: the been An election, but Kai Doll would have some 202 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: type of point like you know what after it isn't 203 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 5: been loonal Like I'm saying, my contracts up next year. 204 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: They chose to stick with me. 205 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 5: And if you look at how Jason Pierre sticks about card, 206 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: he's always sneaking glow only because everything you want, you're 207 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: playing with ad that'd be a KI another win. Tis 208 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: back to being point guard. He's still in his pard 209 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 5: who's still doing numbers. He still makes it look easy. 210 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 5: You got a d you got a bunch of money, 211 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 5: possibly with the other moves to be made. If I'm 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 5: crime like, you know what, they stuck with me. And 213 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: also they didn't didn't wht Nobody else want to be 214 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: getting multiple years done the contract? 215 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: Well, so you don't we get that type of Okay, okay, yeah, 216 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, and I've said this. Everybody knows 217 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: this is not right now. I called I gave Luca 218 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: the name baby Bird because I thought he was that special. 219 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: He was the closest white player I had ever seen 220 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: the lad Bird. Everybody knew lad Bird was my favorite, 221 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: but I always questioned. I said, he looked like he's 222 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: out of shape. I said, he looks like he's unconditioned. 223 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: He looked like he doesn't take his training and his 224 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: condition seriously, his training seriously, and he has some habits 225 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 2: that you know, if you look at Rick Carlyle, you 226 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: got Luca. Guys don't normally say nah, I'm good and 227 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: leave a superstar player that's only twenty two years of age, Jamal. 228 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: So there was something that was some things that was 229 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: going on that wasn't being talked about. But if you 230 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: know the game and you see, you like something ain't 231 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: adding up. And then plus Luca is scheduled. He was 232 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: the first player that was going to be able to 233 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: get the Supermax five years, three hundred and forty five million, 234 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: so basically sixty nine million dollars a year, Jamal. If 235 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: a guy's unconditioned, he doesn't take his training serious, he 236 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: doesn't take conditioning serious. And there's some other things going around. 237 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: If I give him fifty nine million, Jamal, and he 238 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: might have some power that we need to rustle away 239 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: from him. And if you hear listen to me Ko Faiz, 240 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: he says something about culture. When I hear that, Jamal, 241 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but my ears perke up. 242 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: The coature means the something beyond the scenes that he's 243 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 5: not happy with. And like we all know that the 244 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 5: one question in all the sports and in life period 245 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: you're an entertaining are gathering in father and Linca is 246 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 5: gathering his problem. So that's why I'm shocking has happened. 247 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: Even with all that going on on, he's swooning too. 248 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: He can't let on the mature and you can learn 249 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 5: and see. 250 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: Probably where the professionals are jab that want the best 251 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: point guards ever. So that's the shocking general and Fallow 252 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: is that he starts only eight twenty nine and knock 253 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: you know, neither spine or whatever. 254 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 5: He's stilling, not even in the spine and so all 255 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 5: the and that's why I look at second shop guys 256 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 5: like that. 257 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: They don't be training, and you're gonna be when this stuff. 258 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: Until he figures out, we just back because he's exactly good. 259 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: In fact, he's twenty two all the bit to a 260 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: fernalms hesp. 261 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: He's obviously figure he's twenty five, Jamal, who's fall Sorry 262 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: the fact he's twenty five up killing some twenty five 263 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: underless he's still yes, love to look for that too. 264 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: So that's three, you know what. 265 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Jamal and I tell o this 266 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: all the time, and we talk about it bill tolerance 267 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: until they can replace you once they got a deal 268 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: that says, you know what, we can win right now? 269 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: I like Kyrie and a D in the Pick and Roll, 270 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: ad has never really had a guy this this dynamic 271 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: in the pick and roll Rondo and you remember when 272 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: he had Rondo in New Orleans. The numbers that Ad 273 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: put up. Ky is a very similar part guard point 274 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: guard in the pick and roll. But for them to 275 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: trail a twenty five year old that's five times First 276 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: Team All NBA, it tells me everything I need to know. 277 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: I don't need to hear nothing else. They can say this, 278 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: so they can say that. 279 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: But you know it had to be bad, Jamar, because 280 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: everything that you said is absolutely true because you say, 281 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: you know what, his production is better than his problems, 282 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: but they say, no, hell, it ain't his problems super 283 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: seed his production. 284 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: I have a question. You know, both of you could 285 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: probably answer it better than I can. 286 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: Obviously, I don't really understand how for the intricacy on 287 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: why he's not egible for the five year through forty 288 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: five Supermax now just he got traded so simply because 289 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: he got traded. It's in the contract letting you know, 290 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: once you get traded somewhere else, you're no longer elgible 291 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: for that regardless. 292 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: You'll only get a four year deal. Because he was 293 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: he was almost like a bird, almost a bird situation. 294 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: That was the team that drafted him. He had been 295 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: this many times, the first team All the NBA player, 296 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: So therefore a lad Jason Tatum, a JB. So guys 297 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: that have been there for particularly what if it like 298 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: like five six years are Jamal then and then you're 299 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: first team All MB You have to be a first 300 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: team you have to be one of the All NBA 301 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: selections into Yes, so he's done that. So he was 302 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: eligible five years, three forty five. So think about that, 303 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: he would have been eligible to get another contract that 304 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: was probably gonna be north of four hundred million at 305 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: the age of thirty. 306 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: Oh that I think you answered right there. I think 307 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: that was Aha, mom, I think that's gonna be it. 308 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: I think they were more skill if they gave them 309 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: that money and they couldn't do back to the water 310 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 5: at that point, he buys the organization totally versus right now, 311 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: like you know what, let's pay losses. We see when 312 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: this is boring, and I think that might be part 313 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 5: of them. And they've because here's the thing, Jamal. 314 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: They believe that a lot of these injuries, the Nick 315 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: Knack injury is because of his condition. It's because of 316 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: his training is because of his diet. It's because of 317 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: a lot of things behind the scenes. We say this 318 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: with Joel Embiid, we say this with Zaion Williamson. Not 319 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: to say injuries don't happen, but I believe the Mavericks 320 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: believed a lot of these injuries are self induced. 321 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: You're not taking care of your body. 322 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: It's being reported at one pointy way two seventy two 323 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: sixty five, whatever the case may be. 324 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: But Jamal, you know this. 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: You played this game. Damn near two that you played 326 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: it two decades. When somebody moves a player like this, 327 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: we've never seen it that have been like they moving 328 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: Magic Johnson in his prime, them moving Larry Bird, Michael 329 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Jordan end their prime. Don't get moved unless the behavior 330 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: is so egregious they say, we just can't control it. 331 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Your eyes and your ears are still even if you're 332 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: not playing, your eyes and ears are still with the NBA. 333 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: Do you know, have you heard anything what the issue 334 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: might be where this whe where it came to a 335 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: head where they just had to get rid of him. 336 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: I mean, let's just let's just taking set back and 337 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: think about what they want to fill. Right, Lucas having 338 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 5: celebrations being Mike cooner gar I got so quick, so 339 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 5: you can't speculate that they had him stepped behind the scenes. 340 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: That was just like, you know what, he's not changing 341 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: what we want to be and if. 342 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: We've been in this contract and maybe worse at it 343 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: got so sometimes the best way to see a function 344 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: is not look you look, they're gonna be on their 345 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: best behavior. So some times you guys say, let me 346 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: see how you move with that. Let me see if 347 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: you got a check now at least for anybody, right, 348 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 5: let me see if they are be delegitiate with the 349 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 5: professional mom when you're watching that, this is makes you 350 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: watching the talent man bet going back to hanging shapen 351 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: so fast he stayed back and figured over there Nico 352 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: Harrison was Kobe's back with Nick. Rob Lincoln was told David, 353 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: so you know they had a friendship in relationship and 354 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: all tackle of politications they have. 355 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm like, we can net so that 356 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: and not get out and get it. But here's the thing, 357 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: this is what we know. Young athletes that hurt become 358 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: old athletes to get hurt, and the worst thing you 359 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: can have is an old guy that's got you own 360 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: two hundred million, you own three hundred million, because I 361 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: just read a thing the other day when they said 362 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: Joan and Beid he's made one hundred and twenty five 363 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: million for the games that he's missed. 364 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: You want that on Luca, You want that. 365 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: You want Lucas Falery three hundred and forty five million, 366 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: and Harry is And they believe that those injuries, a 367 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: lot of those have been exacerbated by his condition. You 368 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: remember he was nursing the knee in your last and 369 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: in the game, and the championship game excuse me, and 370 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals and leading up to the finals, We're like, well, 371 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: how long can he go on? 372 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 6: That? 373 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: Look, so now you hear culture, you hear you see 374 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: a guy that has no interest in playing any level 375 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: of defense. 376 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 7: Not at all. 377 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: Uh, I got some guy to give away. You know, 378 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have flaws when you think about NBA players, hell, 379 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: even NFL players. Everybody has their strengths. His strengths and 380 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: his identity is on the offensive side of the ball, 381 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: So you know what you don't get from the defensive 382 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: side of the end. 383 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: But he's so great at what he does offensive Hell, 384 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: you you got, you got, you got to take that. 385 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: So how did you like? This can lead you also 386 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: like a supposed to anybody probably like now I just don't. 387 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Lebron is at the age he 388 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: can't play consistent defense. Luca doesn't play any defense. You 389 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: traded your two blast defenders, your wing defenders. Max Christy 390 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: on ball and ad your help defendant on ball can 391 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: defend one through five, is tremendous in the pick a roll, 392 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: he's great. A weak side helped. Look, you got guys 393 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: that can score, but who can they stop? I mean, look, 394 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: I understand, I understand. This is what the Lakers and 395 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: I and I've studied the Lakers, and I know the Lakers. 396 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: This is what the Lakers do. They got willed because 397 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: they love superstars, and the later you gotta have them. 398 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: Cannot get over. You cannot survive as the Lakers without superstars. 399 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: So they go get they go get Willed, and then 400 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: they follow that over Kareem and they go get Shot, 401 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: and they go get Lebron, and now they go get 402 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: and they go get Luca. You gotta have that if 403 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: you go to be l a if you go to 404 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: be the Lakers, you look at the Dodgers. That's what 405 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: they do. You see show hate, you see Mookie, That's 406 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: what they do in order for you to survive out here. 407 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 3: That's why they went and traded for Matthew Stafford. Don't Joe, 408 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: you gotta have a star. 409 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: You gotta have stars, Aaron Donald, you gotta have stars 410 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: to survive out here if you want to win, because 411 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: there's too much going on in La. We got beaches, 412 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: we got samon, we got root tops. You got so 413 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: much going on and if you don't win, they not 414 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: coming to see you. But I'm telling you I don't care. 415 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: See that's the notion that people make. Jamal, and you 416 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: know this, a lot of times people say, well, as 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: long as I'm doing my job, you shouldn't care about No, no, no, no, no. 418 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that, because see, your job is 419 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: being a professional. That's your job. 420 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: How you conduct yourself while you're doing your job, that's 421 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: called being a pro. And say, we don't like the pro. 422 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: We love the professional because he's given us twenty nine 423 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: thirty two thirty four nine to nine. We know what 424 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: he can do. But that pro eventually will catch up 425 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: with us. His behavior and the way he does things 426 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: that say, naw, we've got to nip this in the bug. 427 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: We got the break he's played at twenty five because 428 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 2: he's gonna become unk. Bro. We let him get two 429 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: years into sixty and seventy million dollar contract. 430 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 6: Hey, that joker back coming. Hey, he might come into 431 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 6: the game drinking a bit. He might come to the 432 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 6: and smoking on hookah. Because we know Luca loving hooka, 433 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 6: dout Jamal, he loveth hookah. 434 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: He letting hooker. 435 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 2: And when you sit back and look at it, Rick 436 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: Krlyle left, he refused the contract extension he had Luca 437 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: at twenty two to twenty three. What coach you know 438 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: would walk away from Lebron walk away from a Magic Johnson, 439 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: Larry Bird. That's what Luca's a comparison is. I'm not 440 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: saying he's not won a championship, he didn't want an MVP, 441 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: but that's what he is in today's turn. Ain't no 442 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: coach walking away from that. Coaches might get fired, but 443 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: coaches because they know how hard it is to get 444 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: one of those guys. Those guys you don't those guys 445 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: like Luca, they don't come out in the draft every 446 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: year Bron a magic of bird. They don't come. So 447 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 2: if I get one, I will keep this joke as 448 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: long as I can, as long as they'll have me 449 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: our state. 450 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 5: And that's why some shocking like we have negative ever 451 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: seeing this and it's so open ended and in some 452 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 5: shock can always can do them speculating. We don't wish 453 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: nothing around nobody, but we got to figure it out, 454 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 5: right like that's our job, But higure it out and educate. 455 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 5: People are getting gonna little get an insight and why 456 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 5: this happened. Who knows, you know, how they come on? 457 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 5: His body will be like all that stuff played the part. 458 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: What So what happened is where he's gong and where 459 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: Anthony Batis is going and how its apposed point quote changing. 460 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: We gonna see in the next year or two how 461 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: things lined up and well how answering the future. 462 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: M I also think I think now he just lost 463 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen million dollars on show basically one 464 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: year that it cost him one hundred and seven It 465 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: cost him one hundred and seventeen million. Now, if that 466 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: don't get your attention, it should have your undivided attentions. 467 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: Now I don't know where y'all who makes one hundred 468 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: and seventeen million dollars a year. Maybe some CEOs, maybe 469 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: a Christiano Ronaldo, maybe in Bob Baby, maybe some of them. 470 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: But the ain't a whole ain't a whole lot of 471 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: players making see undred seventeen million in salary you can 472 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: for at taxing. Yeah, now you got just think about it. 473 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: You could have been, You could have been and that 474 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: in Texas your state income tax it's thirteen and a 475 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: half percent. In California, I don't know if you noticed anything. 476 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: So forty million, they gonna take thirteen and a half percent. 477 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: That's ten. 478 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: So they gonna take four millions in the three So 479 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: they gonna take by six million from you, right there. 480 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Old joke on far Listen, Let's say he missed out 481 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: on one seventeen right whereever you miss out. What Let's 482 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: say he gets hisself together yet together, gets on the 483 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: right track. Is it the possibility he can recoup that 484 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: money on the back end and the next deal? 485 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: It all depends. Hold up, he's a big enough superstar 486 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: that he can have He can have deals outside because 487 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: he projects. That's one thing he projects globally, So yeah, 488 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: he can make that much, but you can't make up 489 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 2: what you missed. It's kind of like time because yeah, 490 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: let's just say, for the sake of market, ohoe, he 491 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: signs this deal with the Lakers, so one seventeen. 492 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: Three forty five, so he gets. 493 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Eight two, twenty eight, twenty eight coup, buddy, But just 494 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: say save a Jamal. You remember when Boogie Boogiet missed 495 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: out on what two hundred million by getting traded to 496 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: by getting traded to, uh, the Pelicans, and then he 497 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: gets injured. 498 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 3: Never saw pay that again. See that's the thing, oh Joe. 499 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: You see, we're under the assumption and we hope we 500 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: knock on wood that nothing happens. But when you continuously overweight, 501 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: you put stress on your body. Your body ain't used 502 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: to that. Your body ain't used to being trying to 503 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: go up and down that corner on the nightly basis, Jamal, 504 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: you know, at least two nights a week, sometime three 505 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: nights a week when you meant to be two twenty, 506 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you trying to play at two 507 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: sixty something got a gill about you. Something got a 508 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: gay up. Yeah, and that's why, Okay, you got a 509 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: ferrari and you keep hauling logs on top of it, 510 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: and you see what happened to it. 511 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: That's like okay talking one dreading pope. 512 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 6: You got. 513 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm going five for one eighty on McDonald's and cheeseburgers 514 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: and fries and the coach. So you know, having a 515 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: deal with you at my age, with the skill set 516 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: would never happen any injuries. 517 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: That's easy work. Now see he was doing that at 518 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: twenty five. 519 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Ag ain't number, but the number they the man created 520 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: that man, I know Ain and you whenever you ready, 521 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm here. That's all they got to say. 522 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: You're saying that pool work from this time, they ain't 523 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: working on me. Let me let me, let me ask 524 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 5: you a questions, Jamal, who do you think won the trade? 525 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 5: I think Dallas is on the immediate picture that convey 526 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: I think the Native is going to future. And the 527 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: reason being is Dad, he would let's help you. And 528 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 5: as you know, uh, like we've seen sometimes staff and 529 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 5: his fault and he's taking dames over the last few year. 530 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: But he's gonna have a different walkload man. You like 531 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 5: you said, he's gonna be a gol picking rolls a 532 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: lot and probably uh Lucall. That's a great transition of 533 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 5: the lane to me as a future start whenever Lebron side. 534 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 5: He's having that because you've gotta have the So I 535 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 5: think Gos has won it and just so so weird 536 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 5: the weirdness something dety there because I just whold to guess. 537 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: But do you imagine doing so shaping man no hero 538 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 5: or between jumper and just a shocking. That's why I 539 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 5: said I don't take something else. I think there's gonna 540 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 5: be one. 541 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: Well. 542 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a shocking break that happened 543 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: for this next time period, like plumba sheet. I think 544 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: something smoke And if. 545 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: You look at what Minnesota gave up to get Rudy Gobert, Yeah, 546 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Dallas they won't but one first round pick. I think, 547 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: give me twenty seven, give me twenty nine. I'm gonna 548 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: pick swap in between and give me what you gave me. 549 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 5: Yes, that's all you hat be because this dude is 550 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: generation look is so good a Challas ball look with 551 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 5: day all time that when he's playing a time, he 552 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 5: know you planning that she was going to get your coach, 553 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 5: Kenny Jampo got that quality. Lagron's well oh you know this. 554 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 5: I got you on that o't you do? Okay, I'm 555 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: I'm expose him over there like he's one of those 556 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: dudes the games. He always sudden. He looks like a 557 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 5: got head coo though, like you listen to Chanberry song. 558 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 5: He saw that peace would get it. That is clazy, 559 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: but Dad can't get it. Always you don't see. 560 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him three times six Man 561 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: of the Year, of the oldest man in NBA history 562 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: to have a fifty point game, the only man in 563 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: NBA history to have fifty at least fifty with four 564 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: different franchises, the one the only. Jamal Crawford good luck 565 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: next year and calling games on NBC. Jamal, congratulations, job 566 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: well done. Hey, really appreciate your stopping by the drop 567 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: offer some insight into this big trade. 568 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: Appreciate thank you. I even shout to my guy and 569 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: John taking ready get healthy. Well appreciate chat. 570 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. 571 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: That's all. 572 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: Now we're joined by a former NBA Rookie of the 573 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: Year All Star, former Warriors head coach Mark Jackson. Mark, 574 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: talk to it, bro, How you doing. Everybody is great, bro. 575 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: We cannot we cannot complain, huh, huh hey, churin your camera, Mark. 576 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: Under see how I do it? 577 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: You tried to pull a shutter sharp audio? 578 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 5: Do that? 579 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: Uh? Here you go, coach, What's what's going on? 580 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 6: Man? 581 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: You're good? 582 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: What's up? What's up? 583 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: Man? 584 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 6: You good? 585 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm killing it? 586 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 7: Man, I have to problem for y'all. 587 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. 588 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Mark, Mark. Let's get into this trade. Bro 589 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: It came out of nowhere. Normally trades like this. It 590 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: had to be a special type of relationship because you 591 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: had to sit on it, because fly to it, drop it. 592 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: There was no win ad getting traded, nothing about Luca 593 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: getting traded, and then boom, You're trading a twenty five 594 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: year old, five time first team All the NBA player 595 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: that haven't even reached his prime yet for Anthony Davis, 596 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: a first round pick and Max Christie. Talk to us 597 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: about the trade. You coached this game, you played this game. 598 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: Talk to us out of the deal like this. 599 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 7: We don't know the truth of everything. That's first and foremost. 600 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 7: This is an incredible deal that was pulled off by 601 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 7: Dallas maveraging in Los Angeles Lakers, primarily Nico Harrison, Rob Polinka. 602 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 7: It is in my time of playing basketball, following basketball, 603 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 7: coaching basketball. It is the most shocking trade pulled off 604 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 7: without anybody leaking it, not anybody knowing anything about it. 605 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 7: And then with everybody that got wind of it thought 606 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 7: it was a fluke. We thought it was a fluke. 607 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 7: I got ten phone calls and the mentums fan saying, 608 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 7: can't be real. Can you can you confirm it? I'm like, 609 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 7: I don't know, I can't confirm it or not. It's 610 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 7: it's shocking, like you said, a twenty five year old guy, 611 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 7: five times First Team All NBA Generational Talent. One thing 612 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 7: I would have done if I was Nico Harrison Dallas Maverick. 613 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 7: I'm not minomizing it to Los Angeles Lakers and that 614 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 7: one phone call, I am opening up the bidding for 615 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 7: Luca Dontons, letting everybody know. Everybody's well aware of what 616 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 7: he brings to the table. I got him assured. Now 617 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 7: the best deal may be Anthony Davis and the only 618 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 7: got from the Lakers. I doubt it, and Lisa would 619 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 7: have made sure the Lakers sent it. Hopefully their first 620 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 7: round picked it. But uh, but at the end of 621 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 7: the day, you can't underestimate he got a he got 622 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 7: an Elae first ballot Hall of Famer in Anthony Davis, 623 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 7: whose only concern is staying healthy when he's on the floor. 624 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 7: He's a dominant basketball player, and I believe it helps 625 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 7: both teams. The Lakers continue to add by adding a 626 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 7: big both teams have a legitimate chance of winning it all. 627 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 7: The Lakers because they have two guys that can control 628 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 7: a basketball game at all times on the offensive man 629 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 7: Dallas Mavericks because they have a legit big man that 630 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 7: prefers from his own words to play the powerful position, 631 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 7: now has two young, athletic, energetic bigs to protect him. 632 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 7: And then you have a guy like Carrie Irvan who's 633 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 7: a special, special generational talent in his own right that 634 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 7: can do some similar things with Luca and can carry 635 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 7: them on the offense then and create an offense for 636 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 7: himself on his teammates. Heck, my former lead assistant, Peach Mayans, 637 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 7: who played for the Chicago Bulls, the brilliant basketball mindset. 638 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 7: A Hall of Fame general manager once said to him, 639 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 7: do not make a trade that can cost you your job. 640 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 7: And that's what Nico Harrison did. But I give him 641 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 7: credit because so many guys willing to just cruise along. 642 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 7: I can win twenty games, thirty games. I could go 643 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 7: to the lottery time and time. I could be bad, 644 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 7: and I got any excuse. He swung for defensive and 645 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 7: the only dabble I think he gave up a home 646 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 7: run talent. But Anthony Davis has gotten stayed healthy and'll 647 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 7: be good for you know, the foreseeable future. 648 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Hey, coach, listen for someone who played the game for 649 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: a long time, for someone who coached the game as 650 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: well as a coach, and you think about that. Just 651 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: want you to put your GM hat on for a 652 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: quick minute. What can a player do to the magnitude? 653 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: And where's that egregious to you? Trade somebody that young, 654 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: that's that spectacular and brings that much to a team, 655 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: especially from an office to standpoint, you got to talk 656 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: to me. Just just give me some give me some 657 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: type of better context or context on what could a 658 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: player do behind the scenes that could warrant such a 659 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: trade for someone so good. 660 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 7: That's what makes it shocking to me. And I think 661 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 7: that's a great question. And what I don't like is 662 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 7: all of a sudden stuff come out that didn't come 663 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 7: out all along. So let's let's be fat in him. 664 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, the things we 665 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 7: know about it can be a better conditioned outroute. He 666 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 7: can be better committed on the defense. To end, you 667 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 7: can have a better competitive fight and spirit. Be fat 668 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 7: not every fifth possession, every tenth possession. I could show 669 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 7: you fifty clips of Luca Doncers more than capable of 670 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 7: defending and having game plan discipline on the defense land 671 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 7: of the floor. That can show you two hundred clips. 672 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 7: But he lays down points to thing and blame somebody else. 673 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 7: I would say to my ownership, for my management, that's 674 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 7: interested in trading for Luca, trading Luca dots because of 675 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 7: those reasons, I would tell him personally, that's all me. 676 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 7: He's been in this league six years. I got to 677 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 7: do a better job of bringing that out of am 678 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 7: and hold him an accountable defending at a high level, 679 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 7: competing at a high level, being a better leader, and 680 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 7: that would be all me. 681 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: But what about go ahead? 682 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm confused now. 683 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: You think about what Luca is able to do from 684 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: the office standpoint right, and one of the gripes one 685 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: of the issues that he may have is his lack 686 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: of ability to play defense. But if he is a 687 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: little bit better on defense, coach, wouldn't that takeaway from 688 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: his offensive production? That sounds like a receiver that didn't 689 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: want to block when it wasn't his, when it wasn't 690 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: his check. Because you're not going to you on this 691 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: plate doesn't than giving you a license to chill. You 692 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: still have the responsibility and my job as a coach 693 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: is a whole. 694 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 7: You're accountable to that because it's not about you, it's 695 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 7: about us, and other guys are watching them. If I 696 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 7: allow you to do that, and because they're rolling one day, 697 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 7: I allowed them to that. I'm not saying I'm holding 698 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 7: you to the same standard. I like that and the 699 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 7: idea were we all have kids and that's not how 700 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 7: it works. But I'm gonna hold you to a standard. 701 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 7: But I will not accept and and and losing. I'm 702 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 7: not gonna but I will not accept the winning. I'm 703 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 7: not gonna accept lot. I gotta say to you, I 704 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 7: gotta say, where have you heard That's? 705 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 3: I heard it? 706 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 7: Because guys are watching, I can't. I can't now yell 707 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 7: at you because no, I've been doing this for twenty twenty. 708 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 7: I've been doing this for five years. 709 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: Now. You got a problem with it. See, you never 710 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: accept anything. You never accepted anything in the wind, you 711 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't have a lost. But here the thing, okay, Jack, 712 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: you said, is your job to hold them accountable for 713 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more for the defensive end. Are you 714 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: holding yourself accountable for his unconditioned, his training, his eating? 715 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 7: Absolutely? Guess what I gotta I gotta go see him 716 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 7: in the off season. I gotta take a flight and 717 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 7: go spend some time with him. I gotta send one 718 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 7: of my assistants on my player development coaches go spend 719 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 7: some time with him. I gotta go. I gotta send 720 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 7: the chef with him. I'm gonna put you in position 721 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 7: to be successful. I don't want you to just chase 722 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 7: down being a five time All NBA team player or 723 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 7: generational talent. I want you to have the jewelry at 724 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 7: the end of the day. I want you to be 725 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 7: in that special room with those special guys that you 726 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 7: deserve to be in. I'm just being there with just 727 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 7: all everybody else you should he should be. He's good 728 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 7: enough and great enough to be in the room by 729 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 7: with just a handful of guy. He's that special the talent, 730 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 7: and I'm cheating him if I fall short of holding 731 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 7: him accountable and put them in. 732 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: Position to take away those those credits. But Jack, right, Jack, 733 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: you can't. I tell my kids this, I can't want 734 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 2: something from you more than you want it for yourself. 735 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: And you got kids, and you know they've gotta want 736 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: it for themselves as much as you want it for them. 737 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: If Luca doesn't want what you want for him is 738 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: not gonna work. It's just won't. 739 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: It just won't. 740 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: That's true. But he is so special and so great. 741 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: You can't convince me he don't want it. You just can't. 742 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 7: He's so special and so great. You average a forty 743 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 7: point triple double in the playoffs. You are the best 744 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 7: player in the Eastern Conference, I mean the Western Conference finals. 745 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 7: You're the best player in the He is a special, 746 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 7: special talent. I'm not asking him, and I'm gonna tell him. 747 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 7: I'm gonna push you right a button. I'm not asking 748 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 7: you something that I believe you can't do. I'm not 749 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 7: asking you to protect the rim and block shout. I'm 750 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 7: not asking you to be a lockdown defendant. I'm not 751 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 7: asking you to be two hundred pounds. Let's let's meet 752 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 7: somewhere in the middle. Where where now it's acceptable. I'm 753 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 7: not asking me. 754 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: I just don't want you to point the finger to 755 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 2: a guy light open in the corner and you just 756 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: stand there and you know that's your man and that's 757 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: your responsibility. Everybody in the reading knows that your fault. 758 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: That should burn, that should upset you. I'm not saying 759 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 2: that hasn't happened to me. 760 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 7: And seven years playing fessional basketball, and then all these 761 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 7: years are playing basketball, I got exposure times on the 762 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 7: defense bat, but I got upset about it, and I 763 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 7: reacted to it and responding to it and held myself accountable. 764 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Listen, cole on more. One more question, one more question. 765 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the mental part of it, right, the 766 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: mental part. As far as Lucas concerned, How's he going 767 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: to react? How's he going to is the trade? This 768 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: is a wake up call? Is he gonna fold? 769 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 5: Now? 770 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: Two things can happen. 771 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 3: Most of the time, you think your player, you're sitting 772 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: on top of the world. 773 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: You feel you feel like you're invincible, you know you're 774 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: making good money, you one of the best players in 775 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: the NBA, and all of a sudden you get that call, 776 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you've been traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. Now, 777 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,479 Speaker 1: what Luca are we gonna get from this point going forward? 778 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: Are we getting pissed off Luca? Or we're getting a 779 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Luca that's gonna fold under the pressure. We don't know 780 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: that Luca that you're talking about folding under pressure. All 781 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: he's done in six years is be great, be a 782 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: generational talent. 783 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 2: He's been special. 784 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 3: What just happened, Coach, he got traded exactly. 785 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: Now, getting traded can do something to your mental Now 786 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the different kind of pressure, pressure plan 787 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: and being comfortable in Dallas knowing you that guy is different. 788 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 7: I agree with you with certain dudes with this. I 789 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 7: don't care where you put Tom Brady. He's Tom Brady 790 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 7: in New England. He's Tom Brady. And Tampa Bay Luca doctors. 791 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 7: We're not gonna cheat his talent and his level of 792 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 7: great He's a special talent. I believe it will elevate 793 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 7: him conditionally wise and and and the fight, you know, 794 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 7: to fight defensively because he's got a guy in the 795 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 7: locker room that that's a hero of him that he 796 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 7: looks up to. Now, Lebron Jayson certainly has his flaws, 797 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 7: and times. But one thing he does is takes Hevin 798 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 7: body and he's an all time great. He's a special 799 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 7: talent that if you just hang around, You've got testimonies 800 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 7: from teammates, coaches. He's gonna make you better. And Luca 801 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 7: Dontas will be a better conditioned athlete and a better 802 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 7: defender competitively speaking, because of being around Lebron James. 803 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: That's one thing. Lebron James will Brington the table without 804 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: a doubt. But you know what, Jack, I had a 805 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: guy to tell me one time. He say, they'll toleration 806 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: until they could replace you professional lucas a professional basketball player. 807 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: It seems to me, Nico Collins, Nico Harrison had a 808 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: problem with him being a pro, which was how he 809 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 2: conducted himself in being a professional basketball player. You don't 810 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: It had to get to a point, Mark, Mark, and 811 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: you know this having played, Mark, you played seventeen years, 812 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: you played seventeen years, you coached in this league in 813 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: order for you to trade a generational talent, because we've 814 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: never seen it happen before at twenty five, the behavior 815 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, it had to be change. There's no 816 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: other way about it, Jack, There's no other way that 817 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: twenty five year old generational talent. 818 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 7: We've never seen him before. Unless he asked to be traded, 819 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 7: that's a different ballgame. This guy didn't ask to be trade. 820 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 7: He said he wanted to spend his life on the dartismatic. 821 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 7: So there is clearly something that that that made them 822 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 7: pull the trigger and and and make the trade and 823 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 7: pick up the phone and call it Los Angeles. I 824 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 7: don't know what it is, and that'll come out at 825 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 7: some point, but it's but but it is if it 826 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 7: don't come out to watch it, regular player that that 827 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 7: that you just decide him pick up the phone. No, 828 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 7: I can handle the think about it when it's like 829 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 7: the defensive intensity for forty eight minutes and it's not 830 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 7: conditioning overall. 831 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: The dude was still a five time first team All 832 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: NBA player in six years. So yep, I'm gonna live 833 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: with I'm gonna live with some of that and try 834 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: to make them better. I'm not just gonna pick up 835 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: the phone on a on a random day and call 836 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles. So it's something that pushed the button 837 00:40:51,200 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: and make them make this call. But Jack, my internal 838 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: raised with Rick Carlile wouldn't sign the contract. Extension. You 839 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: know how hard it is to get a generational player. 840 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 2: They don't fall on trees, and a lot of coaches 841 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 2: never get an opportunity to could coach a generational talent. 842 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: Rick Carlyle didn't accept the contract extension, and he had 843 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 2: a twenty two to twenty three year old Luca that 844 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: should have raised the antenna, but really raised mintenda when 845 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 2: I heard Nico Harrison say culture. When you hear that, Jack, 846 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: I know your intender raised too, because we see this 847 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: with Zion. We believe it's conditioning plays a role in 848 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 2: his injuries. We see that with Joe Embiid. We believe 849 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: his conditioning plays a role in his injuries. They believe. 850 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: I believe it is my estimation and I'm just looking 851 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: at this from a distance. I believe the Mavericks believed 852 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 2: that Luca's conditioned on lack thereof his training, his eating 853 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 2: habits play a role in those injuries. And I got 854 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: to give you seventy million dollars this summer for next summer, 855 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 2: for five years. 856 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 7: Oh no, I could do that. Oh I can do it, 857 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 7: and you would do it too. The guy the top 858 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 7: five player in the world, no question about is ability 859 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 7: The thing I got a problem with is we can 860 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 7: pat him. Joel Embiid and Zion Williamson two guys that 861 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 7: have a tough time staying on the floor. That's not 862 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 7: Luca's issue. He plays hurt, he plays hobble, doesn't take 863 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 7: care of his body the best condition physically, doesn't come 864 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 7: in shape and can't and can't, but he plays. He 865 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 7: loves to play. Those other two guys have missed a 866 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 7: substantial amount of game. I think culture is the conditioning. 867 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 7: It's how we act on the bus, is how we 868 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 7: act on the plane, is how we act in the 869 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 7: locker room. We don't know that story. I'll give you 870 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 7: an example. Jimmy Butler report come out. Jimmy Butler had 871 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 7: the plane waiting for a hour on everybody waits him. 872 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? That's not that's on me. I'm 873 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 2: not waiting off with nobody. That's what happened with the reporter. 874 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: The plane is taking off with leaving Jimmy but wait 875 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 2: for Jimmy Butler. And you're setting yourself up with disaster. 876 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 2: You're setting yourself up for a culture that allows that. No, 877 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna set the tone right away. We're leaving this guy, 878 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 2: and if he shows up to the game, he shows 879 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: with the game. We're handling that. But I don't, well, 880 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 2: what kind of president are you sitting with Luca when 881 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: you know he's out of shape, when you know he's 882 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 2: not conditioning properly, when you know he's not training proper Dude. 883 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 7: Thirty and nine, he's the best player on the floor 884 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 7: every night. So you gotta find other other ways to 885 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 7: push the button to get him respond. You gotta you 886 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 7: gotta pull him in the office by yourself and talk 887 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 7: to him. You gotta pull him in the office with carrier, 888 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 7: everybody to pull him in office with the gym. You 889 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 7: gotta pull him in office with ownership, bring in some 890 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 7: form of grades, bring in Dirk and distance, whatever trick 891 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 7: you got to do to push the button. Trick I 892 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 7: don't know. He sees dark you gotta do to push 893 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 7: the button. Your job, My job is to find that 894 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 7: button and push it. Because he is great, and he's 895 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 7: an all time great, But I want to put him 896 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 7: in that special room that he deserves to be in. 897 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm not like this. 898 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 7: This guy's you had get talked up to be great 899 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 7: when he walked into this See he was great. You know, 900 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 7: don't You don't have to hype him up and talk 901 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 7: him up. He's great from day one. So now let's 902 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 7: get you into that special room. And it's something that 903 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 7: you deserve that you're cheating yourself and get about me, 904 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 7: you're cheating yourself if you don't put yourself in the 905 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 7: best possible position to get that. Does he want to 906 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 7: be in that room? You want him in that room? 907 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 7: Does he want to be in there? 908 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: Because if he wanted to be in that Jack all 909 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: the gretes that you mentioned that in the handful of guys, 910 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: did any coach had to hold their hand Jordan, Kobe, 911 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: lebron Bird, Magic, Kareem give me some more, Elijah won 912 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 2: the guy the handful of guy that's in that room, 913 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: did they have to be hand with Spoon? 914 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: Ba Hey, do you think a Jack you think the 915 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: culture he comes from is a little bit different as 916 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: opposed to all the guys that I'm just named and 917 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: their approach to the game of basketball. 918 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: Maybe that might be the issue. I might have something 919 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 2: to do with it. But the dude was a pro 920 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: at thirteen years old. He's been a pro since he's 921 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: been thirteen years old. He's a special talent, and I 922 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: agree with you with those guys that you named, but 923 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: there's some guys that I don't have him at the 924 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: top of my head. But some guys have to be 925 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: push to long some guys. Some guys didn't love basketball 926 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 2: and they're in that special role. Tim Dummy didn't touch 927 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: the basketball until he got into high school. I believe 928 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 2: it's junior. Yet he was a swim dude. He was like, 929 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 2: you need swimmer whoo. 930 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 7: Just it's great enough to get in that room. And 931 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 7: I believe he's gonna get there. And I believe putting 932 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 7: on purple and goal and having a new challenge in 933 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 7: his life is going to get him there. But he 934 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 7: also has to have coaches, management, ownership, leadership that in 935 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 7: that locker room that holds with cattle and has the 936 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 7: same voice as the people that's trying to pour into 937 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 7: his life instead of high five and hugging him and 938 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 7: giving him that when he won a ball game, so 939 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 7: let's talk about you on the game, But how about 940 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 7: the defensive stop that you gave up on It almost 941 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 7: cost us the game. 942 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: So we can have that conversation too. Got to surround 943 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 2: himself with people and are not yes and then the 944 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 2: hole them accountable and push button and inspire him to 945 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 2: one of as bad as we want short long term. 946 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: Who do you believe wan to trade short long term? 947 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: I love I love ad to the MAVs Kyrie and 948 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: the pick and roll. Great help defender, can defend one 949 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 2: through five for minus in the pick and roll, can 950 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: help with weak five defense. 951 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: The Lakers got a little lax on defense. 952 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 2: Lebron can't sit in the cherry any more than forty 953 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 2: Luca we talked about that doesn't really want to play. 954 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 3: Austur reeves people attack him because they can't. 955 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 2: Uh. The Lakers got substantially weaker all the defensive, meaning 956 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 2: they set themselves off for the next ten years. Though 957 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 2: you can't we can't take that take that away from them. 958 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: I think both teams are in position to win a championship. 959 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: You're the Lakers, Your next movie is your best move. 960 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 7: They gotta find it big to clean up some of 961 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 7: the mess and protect the weakness that they have on 962 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 7: the defensive side of the flaw. A protecting round, play 963 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 7: the pick and roll, a hold the fort down a 964 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 7: little bit as German penetration of affection, and I, unlike 965 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 7: with the Dallas I think both teams have helped themselves 966 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 7: because I can't understand how great Anthony Davis is. And 967 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 7: clearly I already raided enough about Luke the Doctor. He's 968 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 7: going to be interesting to see how this thing all 969 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 7: plays out. And I think the Lakers cannot be judged 970 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 7: on just win. They are a championship, but not winning 971 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 7: a championship this year. They got a generational talent which's 972 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 7: hard to find that puts them in position after Lebron 973 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 7: James Lee. 974 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: But let me ask your questions. Let's just say, and 975 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: now I'm hoping, Hey, you know I root for the Lakers. 976 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 2: I'm hoping Luca like man, I just caused myself one 977 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen million dollars. 978 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 3: Everybody believes I could be special. I am special. 979 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: Let me do what it takes in order to be 980 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 2: in that room that Mark Jackson keeps talking around. There's 981 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 2: only a handful of guys in there. They are only 982 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: a handful of guys that deserve the be mentioned of 983 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 2: being in there. There's I mean, some guys can peep 984 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 2: in the room, but there's some guys that's sitting at 985 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 2: the table in the room. Yes, let me, let me 986 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 2: let me get on my conditioning, let me hire me 987 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: a chef. Look, I'm not saying whatever. Hey, I'm not 988 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 2: saying Michael Jordan smokes more cigars than anybody and stand 989 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 2: up with that that and bust and bust them up. Mark. 990 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 3: Some guys drink. Some guys can do that. 991 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: But the one thing you know about by mj he 992 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 2: came into shape lebron loves his wife and a car 993 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 2: gets a cigar. But you know he don't cheat the process. 994 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 2: And the one thing about those guys that are in 995 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 2: that room, they didn't cheat the process. You're right. Tim 996 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: Duncan didn't play basketball until high school, but Park he 997 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: was coachable. Pap got on him to coach everybody else. 998 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: Tim Duncan when he stepped on that floor, you know 999 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: what you're gonna get. But you also knew he was 1000 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 2: a pro off the court. He was gonna come in 1001 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 2: in shape, he was gonna be conditioned, and he's gonna 1002 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 2: be ready to go. And he didn't have no ticket tack. 1003 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: It points the finger directly to the player. They gotta 1004 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: want it. 1005 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 7: And I believe that he's gonna be in that room 1006 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 7: because his talent tells me that he's gonna be in 1007 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 7: that room. I believe he wants it. I believe this 1008 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 7: situation will enhance his desire to prove people wrong. And 1009 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 7: I believe that if you are a general manager, ownership, 1010 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 7: or coach or superstar player playing alongside of him, you 1011 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 7: also have the responsibility to hold him account all and 1012 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 7: to deliver the message to him when he's falling short 1013 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 7: from that. And I believe he's got to be able 1014 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 7: to be mad enough empower those people to do exactly that, 1015 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 7: because at the end of the day, I know they 1016 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 7: want what's best for me, if they want what's special 1017 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 7: for me, and it's gonna be what's best for this team, 1018 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 7: and ultimately I'm gonna be in that room. What he 1019 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 7: doesn't want to do is what you talk about. Put 1020 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 7: his head peeking in that room, and then he gets 1021 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 7: most count of the no. He deserves to be in 1022 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 7: that room comptantly, because his talent tells us. 1023 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the other trade that happened to day 1024 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,760 Speaker 2: the Aaron Fox is going to the San Antonio Spurs exact, 1025 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 2: Levin going to the Sacramento Key. It seems now it 1026 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 2: seems not guys will sign that first extension, get that 1027 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 2: guaranteed money and then after that they're on the hood. 1028 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 2: You see de Fox, he's on his way to San Antonio. 1029 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 2: He wants to play with Wimby. Nice squad there, you 1030 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 2: see Zach Levine. Zach has been the report that Zach 1031 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 2: Levine has wanted to get out of Chicago for the 1032 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 2: extended period of time. 1033 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 3: He's reunited with DeMar de Rozen in Sacramento. 1034 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 2: You have to like Sacramento with Malik Monk, DeMar de Rozan, 1035 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 2: Zach Levine, Demontes Sabonas. 1036 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 7: They got a nice squad, Keegan Murray, they got a 1037 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 7: nice quake about Sacramento. Daron Fox obviously has played his 1038 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 7: willingness to be traded. Let the Trillings we know, and uh, 1039 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 7: they made a trade, but they didn't surrender the season. 1040 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 7: They win't got a guy that can help them immediately. 1041 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 7: In a twenty five point score on Zach Levine, that's 1042 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 7: proven that's comfortable playing alongside of themar De Rose. So 1043 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 7: they have criminal player, great versatility, great youth, incredible fan base, 1044 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 7: and you have some owners and kicking Murray that they 1045 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 7: have talent that still should put them in the mix 1046 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 7: playoff time in the Western Conference and and and and 1047 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 7: still an exciting future moving forward, whether exactly be ops 1048 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 7: saying ops out. At the end of the year, the 1049 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 7: a fox goes to a situation where he's playing with 1050 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 7: a generational talent and winby and and it fits his 1051 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 7: skill set where he can be creative on the perimeter, 1052 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 7: playing pick and roll with him at times, be aggressive 1053 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 7: as a scorer, at times, be aggressive as a facilitator. 1054 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 7: It's an ideal situation. One thing you touched on that 1055 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 7: I still try to figure out as I spend time 1056 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,240 Speaker 7: by myself today. These dudes are turning down three hundred 1057 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 7: million dollars, like give me, give me, give me my money, 1058 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,760 Speaker 7: give me, give. 1059 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: Me my money, and we'll figure everything else. 1060 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, three hundred million. I don't care how much you made. 1061 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 7: This is real money. Go get your money, yes, and 1062 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 7: then find the right situation. Don't leave it on the 1063 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 7: don't leave money on the tape. I play with the 1064 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 7: guy that gave back five hundred thousand dollars in order 1065 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 7: to be a free agent at the end of the year. 1066 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 7: Never recouped and that was that was back in nineteen 1067 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 7: eighty nine, nineteen ninety never got back that five hundred 1068 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 7: thousand dollars. 1069 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: You can't make it back. We talked him now, two 1070 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,720 Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars. Are you kidding me? Get your paper, 1071 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 2: young fella. I will, And I don't want to underestandate 1072 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 2: this because portunately, I don't know a lot about this, 1073 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: and Shining you don't know enoughing a lot about this. 1074 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 2: But my guy Chatow till signal knows enough about it. 1075 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 2: That's news. It can be frustrating time. I mean at times, 1076 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 2: I watched you. I watched I've seen the frustration I see. 1077 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 2: I've seen it running routes and playing for you know, 1078 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 2: it was tough at time, and I was thrilled and 1079 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 2: happy when you got a chance to win and be 1080 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: on the right in the right situation. You deserved it. 1081 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 7: So it can be frustrating and wanting to excellent times. 1082 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,399 Speaker 7: But get your money. One thing about my guy Olter, 1083 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,359 Speaker 7: he gets it. He got his money and he keeps 1084 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 7: his money. I'm watching you, jee, let me ask you this. 1085 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 2: We see these things about Zion, and then Zion has 1086 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 2: had and they even worded his contract that he has 1087 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 2: to be a certain way, he has to have his 1088 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: body percentage down, and we've never seen it. Look he 1089 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 2: reminds you of a more explosive Charles Barkner and Barkley 1090 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 2: like he had malone, he had those other guys, and 1091 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 2: he said, mosa ma alone, rest his soul. Say, Charles, 1092 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 2: you fat and you lazy. You got two things. You young, 1093 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: you fat, and you lazy. You got two things working 1094 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 2: against you. And Barkley says, you know what if they 1095 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 2: get tender. He got ten pounds off in like two weeks, 1096 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 2: and then he got another ten pounds off in a month, 1097 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,439 Speaker 2: and before you know it, Charles will turn himself into 1098 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: an MVP, one of the better power forwards to ever 1099 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: play the game. We see this with Joel Embiid when 1100 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: you get a guy in Bad's size and people don't 1101 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: realize this. The bigger you are, the bigger that frame mill, 1102 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 2: the more way they can hold jack. You seven foot two, oh, 1103 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 2: you could easily be four hundred, maybe even five. And 1104 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 2: when you get hurt during the season, now you can't condition, 1105 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 2: and so guess what you're still eating but you're not practicing, 1106 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: you're not playing, and so guess what you might be 1107 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 2: two ninety five, three hundred. Next thing you know, you're 1108 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: three ten, you're three twenty you're three thirty, you're three forty, 1109 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 2: you're three fifty. Now you go back out there, you 1110 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: three fifty, and you try to run up and down 1111 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: that court, and you jump up your knees, go out, 1112 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: your feet, your ankles, your hips. What do you say 1113 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 2: to that jack? 1114 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 7: Part of it, I blame organizations that allowed him to 1115 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 7: be this way coming in. So I'm trying to be 1116 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 7: your friend and your boy and oh w e w 1117 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 7: when you come in instead of saying, okay, these are 1118 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 7: the problems that we foresee, is what we have to 1119 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 7: do to put your position to succeed from day one. 1120 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 7: I don't care what your bone structure is with your body, fats, 1121 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 7: I know what it should be. They co signed a 1122 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 7: lot of that stuff, initially with Zion Williamson saying he 1123 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 7: was heavy boning, you know, and he can only get 1124 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 7: down to a certain boyt of way. No, he's an 1125 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 7: incredible young man. He's an incredible talent. And you look 1126 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 7: at his body now, it's giving than when he came in. 1127 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 7: So he certainly has a desire to get better. I 1128 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 7: think the biggest, biggest thing for him. You compare them 1129 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 7: to Charld Coarckley and the bodies were similar, but Charles 1130 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 7: Barkley from day one had to jump them. He was 1131 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 7: shooting threes back in eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty nine, 1132 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 7: so he was a skilled overweight performer on the basketball 1133 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 7: floor and who had ranged Ryan Williamson, if you're playing 1134 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 7: against him, you can dare him to shoot the jumper. Now, 1135 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 7: Kenny hit it, yeah, once in a while, And I'm 1136 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 7: saying it's restrictly because he's a great player, but he 1137 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,280 Speaker 7: has a flaw that can be exposed on the defensive 1138 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 7: side of the floor. You're going against him, especially in 1139 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 7: a playoff series, so he's got to spend time to 1140 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 7: enhance and perfect that side of the floor and his range. 1141 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 7: Because he puts his head down, he gets anywhere he wants. 1142 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 7: So now you add a decent jumper to that, He's 1143 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 7: He's a He's a nightmare for anybody to defense. We're 1144 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 7: told about elite players that have that have opportunity to 1145 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 7: make the enternt on this game, and it should hurt 1146 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 7: them when they don't because. 1147 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 2: They're not in the best shape they could possibly be 1148 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 2: in m I still have never understand Rudy Gobert got 1149 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 2: traded for four first round picks. Luka Doncics got traded 1150 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 2: for Anthony Davis in one first round pick. I don't 1151 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 2: know who did, Hey, Nico Collins. Bus know some people, 1152 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: but I'm sure Nico has Excuse me, Rob Perlinka says, 1153 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 2: just imagine if you were sitting at home and got 1154 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 2: a fall you're interested in Luca. Heck, yeah, yeah, So 1155 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 2: you don't even have to work. You can win Executive 1156 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 2: of the Year just because you picked up the phone. 1157 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1158 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 3: What what's that you what statue out for? What you 1159 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 3: want for Luca? 1160 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 2: Okay, whatever you need, Jack, whatever you need, what you need. 1161 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 7: Who we're talking about. We're talking about the guy that's 1162 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 7: just after Lebron Lebron. He's gonna still be playing. I 1163 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 7: don't get I don't care how much time did you 1164 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 7: get Lebron. Luca Doctors will still be your franchise player 1165 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 7: when Lebron ax the building. And that's what you need 1166 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 7: if you're late, if you Lakers, you gotta have franchise players. 1167 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 7: They started with Will, with Kareem Shaq Lebron, and now 1168 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 7: they got Luca. So they just continue to strength the 1169 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 7: stream of getting elite, multi talented great players to keep 1170 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 7: this thing for the Lakers going Jack, We got to 1171 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 7: get you out here on that well. 1172 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for join us. We really appreach 1173 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 2: your appreciate your insight and talking about this trade and 1174 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: the other trades. Darren Fox going to the Spurs, Zach 1175 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 2: Levine going to Sacramento Kings. 1176 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 3: We'll see you down the road. 1177 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 2: Make coachy, No problem, all right, guys, joining us next 1178 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 2: commercial breakfast right, joining us next. 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