WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Fixing the Offense? 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:03.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:11.560 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.400 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:21.360 time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:27.880 Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.040 welcome to another episode of The Break. Today. We have 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.600 a lot to talk about. We're gonna do a season 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.960 review somewhat of that, and then we'll hit the whole 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:43.160 free agent list and check out or find out who 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.120 these guys will keep. Wow or got it? It's a 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.600 lot to get to. Yeah, we're doing forty five minutes 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.800 today or an hour an hour? Awesome, right, need it? Yeah? 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.400 Any time. So we'll get into that in a little bit. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.720 But before I wanted just to do a quick mention 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.880 late Invenderash he made it into the Pro Bowl. I'll 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:09.959 replace nice al wa ware you go replacing? Uh? Looking? 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:15.280 Is that how you saying? He's there? Yes, Okay, he's injured, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.440 but he's replacing it. Any surprises as to Layton being picked, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.840 I know there were some discussion of other people having 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.160 or at least I saw on Twitter, whether him or 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.360 Jayalen between these two guys, So do you agree with 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.679 this replacement and pick? Yeah, I'm a little surprised. I 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.240 thought the Bears. The Bears are one of the few 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.600 teams that announces all their alternates, so they they had 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.160 three linebackers that were altered, and so I didn't know, uh, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.839 you know, how that would work out. But um, yeah, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.320 I mean I'm sure Jaalen's probably a little upset about that. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.520 But you know, vander Esh was better, I mean, had 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.920 a better, better season, And I don't know, it's hard 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.760 for us to say, like who is a Pro Bowler 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.920 because he looking at it all the other guys out there, 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.440 but he looked like a Pro Bowl type of player. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.880 So that's an interesting question. I'll ask you guys, if 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.120 right now you had to say who you think is 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.120 a better linebacker between Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh based 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.680 upon what you saw this year, because I think this 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.960 was really the first year that we saw Jalen play 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.839 at this level. He showed some signs of it other times, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.560 but I thought this year was a consistent level. Which 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.160 would you say is a better linebacker Layton Vanderesh. Yeah, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.120 it's it's close though, because I mean it's easy to 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.200 say yo, Vandersh. But then you're like, why it was more? 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:37.799 Next question. I think Layton's instincts are just especially and 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.400 I know, I know, you know everything with Jalen's career 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.280 he sat for a year and all that, but he 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.079 just his instincts are really impressive. Like he does things 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.480 that we saw Sean Lee do for a decade. You know, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.079 the number of times he split blocks and knew where 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.480 the ball was going before the quarterback had even thrown it. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.440 I mean, those are those are rare plays. I mean, 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.919 we I think kind of him for granted, because we 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.960 saw Sean Lee to him for so long and and 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.480 Jalen's really good. I'm not trying to dog him, but um, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.919 you know, like one of the things that stood out 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.359 to me when watching these two guys would be that 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.079 I feel that I would see Laton being able to 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:20.520 handle several guys at once and versus Jalen. Jalen would 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.640 like run and take care of somebody, but Layton could 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.680 do that with multiple guys. Yeah, I think, and Jalen 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.760 is a more physical tackler. Maybe you know, you guess 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.600 and I feel that. But I mean, this is like 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.480 the Warriors fans saying who's better Currier Kevin Durant, I 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:44.600 mean Curry. It doesn't matter. I mean, I mean, actually, 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.920 who knows. I mean, it doesn't matter the thing. It 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.320 doesn't matter. It's like, I don't know. It kind of 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.680 does matter in the sense that they're well, there's that, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.400 but I'll come they're probably gonna get to eating each 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.200 other's way of the Pro Bowl for the next next 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.000 however many years that they're playing. I mean, yeah, they're 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.600 gonna eat votes from each other. And no, I'm not 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.760 latee Vanderesh had a way better season than Roquan Smith 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.840 Floyd in Chicago. He's more of a pass rusher than 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.960 like a true linebacker, so I'm not surprised. And it 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.960 certainly helps that he plays for the Cowboys, and I 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.320 think he had a better season than Jalen. It's deserved. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.560 They're both really good. They'll both be here for a 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.800 long time, so it's fine. I thought those two games 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.320 in a row, Philadelphia on the road and then Atlanta, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.760 those are the two games that really kind of took 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.200 Vanderesh to another level that the was at nineteen tackles 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.159 against the Eagles with an interception and ye, really big 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.560 stop late in that game. And then against Atlanta, comes 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.880 back the next week, another interception that kind of turned 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:47.960 the game around, and had to play at the goal 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.159 line where he knocked out you know, knocked away a pass. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.800 I mean those two right there when everyone started to 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.040 realize a way a second, this guy you know, really good. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.160 And then howling around in the Saints game and all 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.200 that and the national TV that that kind of keep 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.679 in mind also Layton didn't take over as an every 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.240 down starter until Week four. Think about what his numbers 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.760 would be if he started every game this season. Yeah, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.840 and by the way, if even towards the end of 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.480 the season, he I mean, I should say in the postseason, 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.400 in this last game particularly, he wasn't having some reps 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:17.920 where he was I mean some series where he was 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.480 all because they were trying to get Lee into the game. 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.200 So you think about holistically, his numbers could have been 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.440 much much higher than what they were if he were 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.800 a typical you know, if you were a typical Pro 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.359 Bowl linebacker. Right, but you know, it goes back to 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.760 and I understand rotations and stuff like that, but you 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.840 have an All Pro and Pro Bowl linebacker. I mean 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.760 they were second team All Pro and because as an 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.480 alternate linebacker or whatever, that's one of the best linebackers 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.560 in the league. And it's third and eight and you've 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.480 got to stop the rams one more time to get 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.280 the ball back and give your team a chance. Why 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.920 would why would he not be out there? I mean 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.920 I don't get that. Why would Sean Lee be out 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.080 there wrestling around with that tight end and trying? You know, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.919 and Jeff Heath made the worst place, that worst play 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.600 of his season. I mean, he looked gloss. If you're 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.200 going back and look at that point, yeah, but did you? 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.880 And I don't really know what happened. I read Brian's 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.760 dissection of the play, and his opinion was that that 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.600 he thought he was covering somebody in man coverage and 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.279 because of that, it kind of caused him to pause 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.279 for a second. And that's why he didn't just go 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.520 straight toward Golf, Which the question becomes, then if if 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.160 that really were the case, and he would have just 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.200 shot to where golf, does Golf dump it right over 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.440 his head because there's now a free receiver running down 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.839 the field. So I don't really know. Again, I don't know. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.040 It's assignments. And that's always the tough part about all 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.560 this is we make these analysis points based upon what 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.640 we see and you don't always know what the assignment was. Um, 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.120 so who knows. Who knows whether that was really his 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.680 assignment or if he just really watched that play. Well, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.279 there's there's no point of talking about it now, there's 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:58.560 not on it. But he you know, yeah, we're watching 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.640 it here in the studio, but he's just sitting there 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.520 for a while, like he's not even like you can't 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.080 find the ball at all. And that's surprising because he's 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.800 got pretty good awareness for the most part. Yeah, broke 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.360 it down on Film Room yesterday on Dallas. Cow go 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:18.280 check that out. Check it out. That there. Their calling 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.040 card all year was as many hats to the ball 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.280 as possible, and that was just that. I mean, it 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.760 killed him on Saturday. So it's just crazy. He got 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.880 washed out of so many plays. And I mean not 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.120 that you know, the other team gets paid to their 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.520 offensive line was great, but you just the way that 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.000 they have characteristically played defense, it just wasn't there at all, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.720 you know, you know, Um, going back to vander Esch 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.440 making the Pro Bowl and the obviously the Cowboys coaching 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.160 staff will be there right now, so I'll be there 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:52.240 six players right now. But Zach Martin made it pretty 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.440 clear that he was not going to be playing in 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.640 that game. And I wonder who else might um, you know, 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:03.480 pull out of that game. Maybe it's Tyren Smith. I 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.600 shouldn't know this right now, But do you still get 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.680 the like title or under even if you don't play? Yeah, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.360 if if you are selected like they were and you 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.960 choose not to play, then you are considered a Pro bowler. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.200 If Layton vander esh was injured and he was an 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:25.000 alternate and then he declined it you do not play, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.440 they changed that rule. I remember one time Emmett Smith 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.360 was on the golf course and got a call and like, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.480 you know, hey, you're gonna be You're gonna go to 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.400 the Pro Bowl this week. You know, you're like the 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.360 next alternate And he was like, uh no, I'm good 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.920 and I'm not playing. But he got added as another 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.120 Pro Bowl and that they they've changed that rule just 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.920 because because he took the phone call, which I mean, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.320 if you're if you are one of the three guys 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.280 that gets the call in November, like you were that good, 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.720 then you should be a Pro Bowler, no matter what exactly. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.680 But if you're you know, if you're like the third 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.959 guy down the line and they call you, no, you 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.079 shouldn't be a Pro Bowl. You have to go to Orlando. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.640 And I think that's a good rule. Signed some autographs 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.480 and yeah, Aaron Rodgers is one of the quarterbacks. He's 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.520 not playing in and he was replaced by Russell Wilson, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.720 who will be there. And then the other two quarterbacks 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.680 are Goffin Breeze. One of them is going to the 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.439 one of them won't be one of them is going 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:19.440 and I and are you making the case that down? Sorry, 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.160 I'm making the case that he won't be. So don't 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:27.559 get all excited because who had a better year statistically, 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.800 Matt Ryan Ryan, I bet Stafford's you know, numbers are better, 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.720 but I mean, I don't I think you think, I 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:42.080 don't know. Cousins probably has better stats. It's theoretically possible. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.280 I think it's possible. And yeah, it's death selling a 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.880 little short. I think there's a there's a there's a 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.920 good chance that he would be the guy that gets 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.920 the call. He might because I'm thinking about the rest 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.520 of the NFC. I don't know Dal's other names, like 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.400 you you mentioned Ryan, but I'm like, what what? I 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.560 don't know if he did. And sometimes sometimes the statistics 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.160 aren't ever anything, especially for quarterbacks. Sometimes the win loss 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.480 record combined with the stats is kind of what matters 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.640 a little bit more so who knows. Yeah, I know 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.640 that New Orleans has Michael Thomas. If they win and 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.600 go to the Super Bowl, that that'll be a receiver. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.960 I don't know. Cooper is kind of interesting because he's 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.559 got numbers. If you look at his whole numbers, you know, crap, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.000 how wow? Why was about He's about to shock us 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.400 with something? Just why wasn't Atlanta better this year? Because yeah, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.440 I am through for five thousand yards, thirty five touchdowns 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.559 and seven picks the NFL. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna get 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.120 the call. He's going he's gonna get and Drew Brees 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:40.240 I know in the NFL that's on leavable. I mean, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.880 and passing yards aren't everything, but that's they couldn't run 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.200 the ball. Yeah, they couldn't play defense, no, I know, 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.679 So here you go. That's how they were bad as 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.400 they were you know, sorry, I don't think it's gonna 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.760 be any more alternates. That's basically what I basically, I 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.080 don't think Cooper is gonna gonna get there. I don't 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.800 know the other receivers, but I'm sure there's a lot 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.520 of guys, a lot of catches. And then you know, 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.960 Dak would be the one and Jalen Smith. I don't 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.040 think that's gonna happen. There's not gonna be another linebacker 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.800 not playing the game. That's six Pro Bowlers for ten 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.719 and six team is not bad. It's not bad at all. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.440 Pretty Actually, it's really really good. In fact, they're they're 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.559 probably second or third in the league. Like I'm sure 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.120 they're behind the Rams in the Chiefs. That's about definitely, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.680 remember writing a story about six Pro Bowlers on a 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.280 six win team. Definitely, as it happened. That's the power 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.120 of the Cowboys. So all right, well let's go ahead 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.640 and change the subject a little bit. Last show, we 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:39.120 discussed what Jason Garrett and Stephen Jones had said in 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:43.240 regards to changes in the coaching staff. Since then, Jerry 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.559 Jones has had another interview with the fan and talked 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.920 about basically saying his options are open and at the 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.760 end of the day, he's the one that makes the 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:56.319 final decision, and that basically there's no rush at this 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:01.520 moment to make those kinds of decisions. But since then, uh, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:06.679 Mark Colombo, he's expected to return, And I wanted to 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.040 check out your impression to this. Are you guys pleased 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.680 with this? He was a guy that made a huge 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.360 change once he was promoted and what he was able 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.480 to do the O line. You ever heard of that 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.199 phrase power of the press? That that definitely happened with 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.760 with Mark Colombo. I thought the way, um he there 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.960 was a story written I'll just leave it at that 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.679 about his links to other coaches and maybe he was 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.480 going to go to another another team and he has 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.120 a deal in a couple of days. Power of the press, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.400 I think, I mean, I think that definitely played a 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.600 factor into Hey, Mark Colombo could could go here. I mean, 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.320 no one really knew that if that was the case. 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.800 Maybe they did some calls, but I'm just saying, let's 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:52.840 get that thing locked up before it goes anywhere. So 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.440 I think I think that was you say, there's no 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.160 no rush on certain things, some guys that there is, 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.959 and I that was was one that probably plays a factor. 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.000 But I think of it too in terms of, well, 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.920 first of all, I thought I thought he did a 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.000 great job, Like there's no doubt the offensive line played better. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.760 I think, you know, he's got relationships in this building. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.640 He played, he was a great player here. He's been 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.040 here for He's been in and around this team for 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.280 the last decade. Now. I think Garrett loves him. I 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.560 think the front office loves him. I know players love 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.960 him and would especially compared to what was here before, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.840 love his style. And I think they want to prove 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.839 themselves right that they like him, and so I think 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.600 all those guys want to play really well for him. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.640 All that works. The other thing I thought about this too, 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.240 is like I thought about the day Derek hired me 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.960 to this job. I was unemployed. It was like a 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.200 year and a half out of college. I had no money, 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.000 and Derek called me and was like, well, this is 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.760 what we can off And before he was even done time, 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.880 I was like, yep, okay, yeah, I'll be there. And 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.280 it's like, if you remember all this stuff we offered you, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.440 like I remember, don't even how much I'm gonna get paid. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.480 I remember being like that's those are low numbers. But whatever, Yep, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.280 it's the Cowboys. Cool and let's go. And if you 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:07.480 offered me that now that I'm way more established, oh god, no, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.920 the word negotiation did not even enter into my mind. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.600 Which is my point is you know where Mark Colombo 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.920 is in his career as a coach. He gets this job, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.000 you know, he's his first time being the old line coach. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.320 He goes, well, he loves this team, and they're like, hey, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.000 you want to be our old line coach. Yep, let's 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.920 do it. I mean I can imagine offer him before 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.520 somebody else has a chance and give show him his 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.720 value or yeah, and he's just getting started in his career. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.760 You know, five years from now, it's probably a totally 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.600 different conversation. But expensive, baby, You're like, hey, we I 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.520 mean Jerry Jones said it yesterday. He's like, I got 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.200 I got a handful of guys that are out of contract. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.680 I gotta worry about them. First. They might have just 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.080 looked at like this should be the easiest thing to 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.400 get done. Whatever else is going to happen. We can 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.160 take care of this in ten minutes, and we know 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.880 we want him. That's the most important thing is we 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.240 know we want him because of what he's like, what 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.800 he's already done. Yeah, so I wasn't surprised. I thought 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.840 it was smart. Yeah, yeah, way to go, way to 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.280 all Right, Now, we've talked for a while also about 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.320 Jason Garrett and maybe him moving on from the Cowboys. 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:10.800 Clearly at this point that is not going to happen, 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.120 you should say and expect ever since the team started 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:20.400 getting rejuvenated, since Dad got here, seek and all of that, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.720 these changes since then in three years they've made it 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:29.720 to the divisional round twice. Now overall, looking at the team, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.720 would you still say, as far as coaching and what 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:38.000 needs to happen that the main problem or main change 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:43.360 that needs to happen would be in the offensive coordinator spot. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:48.760 Other than that, do you feel good about what you have? Uh? Yeah, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.080 I mean you gotta remember this is a young team 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.400 and I think they've done a nice job turning things around. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.960 I mean, Garrett, you know, the thing is is that 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.240 if you want to take it back to ten years, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.680 if that's you know that that's people use that as 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.440 a as a reason to say, well, he's not done good. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:07.880 You know, he's done a good job, because just take 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.200 it back to the last ten years. But I mean, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.920 if you look at this team and how they got better, 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.360 I mean, somebody, somebody did a good job of coaching 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.080 this team. But the offense isn't good. So the offense 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.000 needs to be better and it need to be a 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.040 more balanced team somehow. And I think that with Lenahan 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.160 he was here to be with another quarterback, I think 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.160 that there could be other options there. That's that's my take. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.160 But I mean, Jason Garrett, I don't look at the 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.520 two wins in ten years in the playoffs. That's irrelevant 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.440 to me. I mean that I don't. I don't. That 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.920 doesn't mean anything to me. Here's the thing I think about, 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.760 and I think um in Jerry's interview yesterday, I don't 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.440 think there was enough attention paid to this. One part 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.160 of his interview where they mentioned him. They said something 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.560 to the effect of we just wanted to get you 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.200 on the record with this, and he said, WHOA. Let 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.080 me let me stop you for a second. He said, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.720 there's no such thing as on the record, because as 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.960 soon as I hang up this phone, my opinion can change. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.480 He said, this time of the year, there are all 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.760 sorts of options that become available to you, and based 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:09.119 upon those options, your opinion changes. And he says that 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.560 applies to coaches, that applies to players, that applies to everything. 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.119 So what I'm saying right now can change drastically based 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.000 upon new opportunities that may be presented to me. I 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.440 say all that to say, if you're going to talk 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.040 about coaches, I think you always have to talk about 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.640 If not them, then who, right, Because that's at least 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.960 based upon that statement. That's at least how I think 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.840 the owner is looking at this. He's thinking based upon 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.920 the options. I saw those guys that were out there 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.080 that were available as head coaches, oc as, whatever. I 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.720 feel like my guys are right now better than that. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.680 So my question I would pose to people who say, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.720 give me another head coach, give me another OC my 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.760 question is who and are they available? And right now 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.640 I don't know that I can come up with those 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.199 names to say this is a better option than what 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.439 you already have, So get rid of that guy and 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.000 put this guy in their place. That's a really great point. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.160 And for the record, on the record, on the record, 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.520 those quotes were the centerpiece of the story I wrote 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.600 about it. Yes, and yeah, that was a great job. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.320 And I don't think that's getting enough press. I'm talking about. Yeah, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.840 I've seen everywhere his quote about Jason. If Jason were 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.560 on the market, there'd be five job offers. Everybody's talking 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.160 about that. Everybody missed the next part, and the next part, 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.240 to me, was more important than what he said about that. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.119 That's I wish that I had. I wish that I 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.680 had known you were gonna make that argument. I would 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:28.960 have spent a little bit of time because you're right now, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.320 I don't have a list of guys. I don't and 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.000 and we have enough season to this. We do have 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.520 no we will believe, we do have a lot of shows. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.000 But like this will be settled within the next two weeks, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.679 Like they're gonna you know, they're not gonna wait till 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.200 you will know the full poll. You're not gonna wait 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.000 till March to hire a new coach, so or offensive 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.640 coordinator or not. Yeah, And I don't I don't think 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.320 the head coach is going anywhere. No, but I think 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.240 I do think as far as offensive coordinates is concerned, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.920 I think there could be something if he gets an 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.920 option that he likes well well, Jerry makes a great point, 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.359 is like things can change. I mean, you know the 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.320 Rams are gonna lose their quarterbacks coach to Cincinnati as 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.800 soon as their playoff runs over, whenever that is, and 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.200 you know he will hire staff and maybe somebody will 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.280 be out of a job or so. I mean, he's right, 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.760 and since that things can change, I thought it was 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.000 smart on his part just to cover all of his basses, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.400 because basses, because nothing has to change based on that quote, either, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.280 what were you gonna say said? Do you all believe 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.679 the statement about there would be five teams after ja 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.040 I think there was some hyperse hyperbole there. I don't 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:37.840 know if I say five. I do think he could 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.840 have gotten another job as well. I go back and 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.040 forth because Adam Gas got high, right, if he can 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.400 get hired, don't forget about I mean, and I've said 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.880 this if kings before. I've never seen this in my life. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:55.720 I've never seen a coach get fired and hired for 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.080 the exact same reason. I mean, I really believe that 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.520 Texas Tech fired him and he had been struggling, but 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.200 it's like they saw what what Mahomes was doing. It 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.159 was like he didn't win with this guy. I mean, hey, 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.280 let's use basketball coach back in the nineties, and he 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.880 didn't win with those guys. I mean, and the same 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.600 thing too, by the way, But I also believe that 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.159