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Speaker 1: time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of The Break. Today. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. We're gonna do a season

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Speaker 1: review somewhat of that, and then we'll hit the whole

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Speaker 1: free agent list and check out or find out who

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Speaker 1: these guys will keep. Wow or got it? It's a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. Yeah, we're doing forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: today or an hour an hour? Awesome, right, need it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Any time. So we'll get into that in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But before I wanted just to do a quick mention

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Speaker 1: late Invenderash he made it into the Pro Bowl. I'll

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Speaker 1: replace nice al wa ware you go replacing? Uh? Looking?

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Speaker 1: Is that how you saying? He's there? Yes, Okay, he's injured,

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Speaker 1: but he's replacing it. Any surprises as to Layton being picked,

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Speaker 1: I know there were some discussion of other people having

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Speaker 1: this replacement and pick? Yeah, I'm a little surprised. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Bears. The Bears are one of the few

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure Jaalen's probably a little upset about that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, vander Esh was better, I mean, had

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Speaker 1: a better, better season, And I don't know, it's hard

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Speaker 1: for us to say, like who is a Pro Bowler

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Speaker 1: but he looked like a Pro Bowl type of player.

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Speaker 1: So that's an interesting question. I'll ask you guys, if

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Speaker 1: right now you had to say who you think is

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Speaker 1: a better linebacker between Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh based

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Speaker 1: upon what you saw this year, because I think this

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Speaker 1: but I thought this year was a consistent level. Which

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Speaker 1: would you say is a better linebacker Layton Vanderesh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's close though, because I mean it's easy to

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Speaker 1: say yo, Vandersh. But then you're like, why it was more?

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Speaker 1: Next question. I think Layton's instincts are just especially and

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, you know everything with Jalen's career

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Speaker 1: just his instincts are really impressive. Like he does things

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Speaker 1: the number of times he split blocks and knew where

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are those are rare plays. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jalen's really good. I'm not trying to dog him, but um,

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Speaker 1: latee Vanderesh had a way better season than Roquan Smith

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Speaker 1: And I don't really know what happened. I read Brian's

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Speaker 1: don't know if he did. And sometimes sometimes the statistics

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Speaker 1: they have a great culture in that locker room. I

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Speaker 1: will I will defend Jason Garrett's resume Monday to Saturday

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Speaker 1: up against anybody. And again, I know fans don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: want to hear that because it's about what happens on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But there are plenty of franchises in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: would value that, so I could see it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at least a few, maybe not as many as five,

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Speaker 1: of all the guys that I hired this year is

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Speaker 1: think this guy's a really good head coach, and that's

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. I think Bruce Arians is a vastly under

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Speaker 1: offenses he had in Pittsburgh and with Arizona. They were

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Speaker 1: significantly better while he was running those those offenses, and

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Speaker 1: they got significant shouldn't say significantly worse, because I don't

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Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh got significantly worse. But Pittsburgh the year after

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Speaker 1: as it was with him, and certainly with Arizona it

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Speaker 1: took a drastic step down. I think he's the guy

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Speaker 1: you talk about all those young guys, all these new concepts.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy, really, in my opinion, that has the

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Speaker 1: skins on the wall to say I know how to

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Speaker 1: to a whole different level. So that would have that

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and take a quick break. When we

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Speaker 1: Back to the break, what's up, Well, we're just continue

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Speaker 1: that whole conversation about you know, names and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to get into that, but go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go ahead of my own means, No, we don't. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to create rumors by stuff that's unsubstantial. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's if you just said, well, I want

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Speaker 1: this young college type of offensive coordinator or something like that,

513
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: that's not the same for everybody. That's not the same

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Speaker 1: for every team. But when you look at what dak

515
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Speaker 1: strengths are, and I think that he does need to

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Speaker 1: run more. They need to utilize his athleticism more into

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Speaker 1: the offense that a aspects of a college type of

518
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Speaker 1: offense would be good here. And I thought about that

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Speaker 1: when we were doing the show on Mondays. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what Dak's opinion about all of this is. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's too smart to throw people under the

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Speaker 1: bus publicly, but I wonder how he feels about the

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Speaker 1: offense basically, and whether he's being utilized correctly and whether

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Speaker 1: he's being put in a position to succeed. I think

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Speaker 1: we would all agree at you know, I think we

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Speaker 1: would all agree that he had a hand in Dez's departure,

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Speaker 1: you know, not that he's pulling the strings. But I

528
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Speaker 1: just refuse to believe he wasn't consulted about the decision

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Speaker 1: to release the number one receiver on the team. So

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Speaker 1: how does he feel about that? Like, is he frustrated

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Speaker 1: by what is going on in the offense? And I don't,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm just now I thought of

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Whether he's having conversations with Jerry or

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Speaker 1: Jerry go and say, okay, let's meet up real quick. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm planning on making you my one hundred million dollar

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Speaker 1: man what do you think we need that I would

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Speaker 1: do that if I was going to sink that kind

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Speaker 1: of money into the guy. Yeah, but I think the

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00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: the only issue with that is I think what I

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00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: think I know of Dak is that Dak wouldn't wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say anything to disparage his head coach to the owner.

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00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Um, And so it may not be Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get that, but I don't think he would say

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Speaker 1: it's strong enough to where it would influence Jerry to

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00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: necessarily make a move. Right. What I would be more

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00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: interested in is when Dak is with his best friend,

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Speaker 1: when Dak is with family, when Dak is with his

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Speaker 1: lady friend, whatever, what is he What is he saying?

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00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: Then it's not really old? And that that to me

550
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: is what because I don't know if he has a girlfriend,

551
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: But that to me is way more important because that's

552
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Speaker 1: when you're more candid about what you really feel, when

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Speaker 1: you go home at night after that game and you're like, man,

554
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: I wish this, or man, they should have done this.

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00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know because that tells me

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Speaker 1: a lot more about what he believes of this offense

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00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: and this coordinator and this head coach. The other day,

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Speaker 1: y'all mentioned, oh, when this time comes, like everyone gets

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Speaker 1: their knives out and fight for themselves. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're fighting and like making a reasoning as to why

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Speaker 1: you're not as good, you know, because it's also on

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00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: that like he hasn't been great, So that also changes

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Speaker 1: the image of him. Now if he goes in there

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Speaker 1: and says, Okay, yes, I feel this way, that maybe

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Speaker 1: you know the right calls are being called or this,

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Speaker 1: and that, then that also helps fight for his money.

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Speaker 1: Jerry would have to do a really good job of

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Speaker 1: asking him the right questions, very pointed questions that would

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Speaker 1: give him direct answers that doesn't say your coach is wrong,

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Speaker 1: but gives him the answer that he's looking for about

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00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: specific moments in games, this particular moment, what did you

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00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: think of this? And get his ohoverall opinion, and that

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Speaker 1: he might tell him something to the effect of, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought we probably should have tried this, or I

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00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: did notice this earlier in the game. I thought it

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00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: would have been a great time to do this. Right,

577
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: those kind of answers where he didn't have to throw

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Speaker 1: him under the bus. But at the same time, Jerry

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Speaker 1: gets what he wants right. Dack's best two throws of

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Speaker 1: the year throws, I mean the Beasley throw. I know

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Speaker 1: it didn't I know the game didn't matter, but I

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00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: think that's the best throw of his entire career. I

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00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: think that Cooper throw this last game was a heck

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Speaker 1: of a throw. Which one was that the one for

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Speaker 1: the touchdown? Did not Cooper gallery the gallop throw, just

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Speaker 1: the gallup co and y'all would say those two, those

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00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: are the two that I was thinking because he was

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Speaker 1: on the moves. On the move he's on to the

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Speaker 1: left means he's got an arm that can throw. It

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00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: means he's got an arm. Um. You think they're gonna

591
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: keep that in not as funny? Yeah, no, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about dak by the way, if anyone's talking about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, for six years down the road or just no.

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Speaker 1: I mean I said it more times than I can count.

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00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: But he and and they're not carving copies. Russell Wilson's

596
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: more athletic than he is, but like he he reminds

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00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: me of Russell Wilson. And like Russell Wilson can hang

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Speaker 1: in the pocket and make great throws. But he's at

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00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: his best when he's on the move and either improvising

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Speaker 1: or using his athleticism to make play. Yeah, in casey too,

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00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: and that's actually he is in the pocket. He's way

602
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: better when he gets outside the pocket. Robert May's who

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Speaker 1: he is. Well, yeah, I mean I don't like. I

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00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: don't like to compare him to Mahomes is a prototype.

605
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Speaker 1: He broke the prototype. Yeah, whereas it's I can catch

606
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: his pass. He's definitely a receiver for a night. You've

607
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: caught his pass? Yes, check his pen tweet on his Twitter. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I missed that. You haven't seen him on Twitter. I

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Speaker 1: don't follow you, Baylor Texas text four years ago. Can't.

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Speaker 1: Where does that? I think us Russ is a more

611
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Speaker 1: fair comparison because I get he's short. He was a

612
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Speaker 1: third round pick. He's not you know, Mahomes is this

613
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Speaker 1: top ten pick with the cannon arm um? Where was

614
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Speaker 1: that going with that? Guys, just that are on the

615
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Speaker 1: move and that he's beyond the move. That's really what

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Speaker 1: my point was is. I do think they need to

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Speaker 1: get him out of the pocket a little bit more

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Speaker 1: and doing that, And also we did see more passes

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Speaker 1: over the middle later in the year. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: with Cooper. When Cooper got on there and he said

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Speaker 1: that one of the games, I guess I think it

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Speaker 1: was Seattle and he was I immediately thought of Dez.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was thinking that way, but the

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Speaker 1: way he answered it was what why Cooper's goods? He

625
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, I got a guy in

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Speaker 1: here that could run routes, he can run round and

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Speaker 1: and I just thought, wow, you know, like you never

628
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: had that before. Is that what you're saying? But that's

629
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Speaker 1: just being like cynical, don't say what he was saying,

630
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: but he was. He was really saying, this guy can

631
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Speaker 1: run routes and understands the offense, and you know he's

632
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: here for six a lot in that statement. Yeah, And

633
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: that's and and Dens was never that way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's we know that route running wasn't his best thing,

635
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Speaker 1: and the grasp of the offense, even after eight or

636
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: nine years, wasn't his his you know strength, he would

637
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: go up and get the football. And when those skills

638
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: diminished to the point where he wasn't just out athleting

639
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: people all the time, then like that word athleting out athlete,

640
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: that's I remember. It always would tweet that I'm just

641
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: better than you. Like that's what des would go up

642
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: and just make it I'm just better than you type

643
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: of play against the Saints a Cup a few years ago,

644
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: and it was just going off on. You know, I remember, Um,

645
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a ring Desmond, Yeah, he probably is.

646
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: I It's it's very deep in here. My my friend

647
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Robert Mays who works for The Ringer, wrote an interesting

648
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: story for them this morning about, um, the Cowboys season,

649
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: and I mean the theme of the story is basically, yeah,

650
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: the run to ten and six was a lot of fun,

651
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: but did it set the Cowboys back in terms of

652
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot of fans that think, yeah, no apps and

653
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: and and it's I think it's a very fair article.

654
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: I would encourage anybody to go read it. Um. But

655
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: he made some interesting points about Dak and DeMarcus Lawrence

656
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett, Uh just kind of talk about we

657
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: were what we were talking about is where do you

658
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: go from here? There were some guys on the fan,

659
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: Yes I think it's been in skin and they were

660
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: talking about a similar thing and their argument was, um,

661
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: when when a team, when this team has had this

662
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: kind of success, Um, their their contention was they tend

663
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: to get a little more conservative because they say, we're

664
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: so close, don't change anything, like, don't don't make the

665
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: big change. You can't take a step backwards to take

666
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: two steps forward. You just stick with what you're doing

667
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: because you're so close, as opposed to, hey, we're this close,

668
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: let's get aggressive and really do something that we think

669
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: can shake it up and take us over the top.

670
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: And and their contention was they tend to be the

671
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: more conservative of that, and because of that, that was

672
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: their belief as to why this team hasn't been able

673
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: to push above that say about but are we talking

674
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: about coaches? I think because they were talking about coaches,

675
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: So yes, that's I think that's really what they need

676
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: to be said, or whoever is talking about that needs

677
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: to be saying, is about the coaches. Because this Jerry

678
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: has shown that when he feels like his team is

679
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: young and he's right there, he'll take chances personnel wise.

680
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: You know, when he thought that team was young, TiO

681
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: could help them, He thought Charles Hayley could help them.

682
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: He even thought in two thousand and eight, you know what,

683
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: I've got such a good team that the pac Man

684
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Jones and Taint Johnson's of the world can help. He

685
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: gets aggressive personnel wise, but not what they're saying about coaching.

686
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: But take I mean, there's a reason why you get

687
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: an extra mini camp in the off season when you

688
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: have a new coach. It's because you're kind of starting backwards,

689
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: and I mean you got to start over again. I

690
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: don't know if that would make sense to do that,

691
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: But think about the flip side of that. They were

692
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: at three and five this year and what did they do.

693
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: One of the changes they made was they changed their

694
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: position coach, and that doesn't happen very often in the season.

695
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I would suspect if they were five and three, they

696
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: would not have done that. And so it's like, if

697
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: you can do that in moments when things are desperate,

698
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: then maybe you should consider it sometimes when things are

699
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: going really well, if you still see this one area

700
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: that if you change this one area, if you can

701
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: get more production out of this one area, yeah, maybe again,

702
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: maybe you do have to take that's back. But we

703
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: sound like arguing. But I think four people it would

704
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: would say that they need a new offensive coordinator. Right.

705
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't mean to speak for anyone. I'm saying it.

706
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: I think you need an offensive order. So if that's

707
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: what we're saying, yes, I agree in this instance you

708
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: think this, actually absolutely, I said it after the game.

709
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: When's the last time a team went to the divisional

710
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: round and both coordinators would be changed? I think both

711
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: coordinators will be changed. Honestly, Well, let's move on to

712
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: let's move on to that. I'm not not on that.

713
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: You don't That wasn't me. I'm not on that. You

714
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: don't have to. Don't hurt me, Rod, Right, you don't

715
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: have to, you don't hurt me. All I'm saying is

716
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: is that I would keep I mean, I have it.

717
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: What would you do? Flip? Do you? Can you really

718
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: do that? Where you will? You just say, Rod, you're

719
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: no longer the defensive coordinator. Now you are just the

720
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: defensive line coach and run game. I don't know that.

721
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: That's not my first conversation. My first conversation was with Richard.

722
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm not to say what. Well, let's talk, I mean,

723
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: what what what works for you right now in this situation. Okay,

724
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: let's assume he says I want to be the DC.

725
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm that helps me get closer to being a head

726
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: coach Ad Jerry. Wow, if I'm Jerry, you are the DC.

727
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: That's my first conversation. Okay, then I'm moving on to Rod.

728
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: And what are you gonna say to Rod? He's the DC,

729
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: so pick a choice, Like there are a lot of

730
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: titles out there, what do you want? You also say,

731
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: you said two weeks ago you do whatever it took

732
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: to keep christ Rah Shard in Dallas. This is what

733
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: it took. What it took I mean, and I honestly

734
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that. I'm not sure if that all

735
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: played out like that, and I think there probably should

736
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: be a little bit more tactful way of doing. But

737
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: but but I do think if all that came about,

738
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think that Marinell is so

739
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: caught up on himself and his own ego that he

740
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: would say I wouldn't give up the DC title and

741
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: and not be here just to not just to prove

742
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: a point. Yeah, let me let me backtrack on that

743
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, because that we're being you know, facetious here.

744
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: I do think you need to keep Chris Richard. I

745
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: want to keep him happy. And Rod Marinelli should understand

746
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: that because that's kind of what they did we talked

747
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: about that's what they did when Kiffin was the guy

748
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: and all that, not pushing out and outstanding defensive coach

749
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: out the door. I think he can work together here.

750
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: There's different titles. We see it passing game coordinators, assistant

751
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: head coach. Maybe Marinelli's the assistant head coach. There's different

752
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: ways to do you think that if that was to happen,

753
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: that affects their relationship? You don't think so. That's a

754
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: good question, But I do not think so. I'm not

755
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: think that. Yeah, I don't think that. I'm not worried

756
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: about it. For two, I could not be less worried

757
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: about it. One. Rod Marinelli has proven himself to be

758
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: a pretty selfless guy, and like Ego ruined so many

759
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: relationships among the football coaches, it doesn't seem to be there.

760
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus called the plays for this defense last year

761
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: like he's made it, Like he's not He's not the

762
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: guy that has to get the credit like that. Clearly,

763
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: that seems very clear to head coach and Joe Eberflus, Yeah,

764
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: no date interview he got. I think he interviewed in

765
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland maybe, uh, and Chris, he'll get there. He'll then

766
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: he's definitely Chris Rashard has been doing it this year,

767
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: like nobody's really tried to keep it a secret. Like

768
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: I think Rod Marinelli just wants to coach be he

769
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: wants to be in a football environment and coach defenders,

770
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: specifically pass rushers, Like that's his That's like why he

771
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: gets out of bed in the morning. And I think

772
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: if phelip min is what he's yeah, and if he

773
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: gets to do that, I don't think he really cares.

774
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: And and you know, you can, you can give somebody

775
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: a title or tweak some titles. Also the other thing,

776
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, not trying to be mean. I think the

777
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: world of him. Chris Rashard doesn't have leverage anymore. Like

778
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: the jobs he was interviewing for are filled, so the

779
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have to do anything. They don't have to

780
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: do anything. Well well maybe, I mean if one of

781
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: these jobs is an opportunity, then you might have to

782
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: worry about that, right, But maybe I'm not saying that

783
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: it does. That hiring cycle is over. I mean, you're

784
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: talking like it's almost February in college, like you're about

785
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: to start playing spring ball. Yeah, so I mean maybe,

786
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: but but I think I think, out of respect for

787
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: him and appreciation of everything he's done, I think the

788
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys want to do right by him. I'm just saying

789
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: the coach the head coaching jobs that he was up

790
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: for have been filled so that most of his leverage

791
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: has gone to no calendar offer here, Noah, I mean,

792
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: and where to be a DC. No, the Cowboys don't

793
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: have to less something. Unless something falls through with the Dolphins,

794
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: then that's probably done. So. But that's also the interesting

795
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: part about this is you can you can say that

796
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the leverage, but you also don't want

797
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: to create bad will with him, because right bad will

798
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: then it becomes a situation where as soon as he

799
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: is available to leave, it's almost impossible to keep. And

800
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: that's why I think Jerry's going to take care of him.

801
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be effortless. It seems like him

802
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: and him and Marinelli appear to have a really great relationship,

803
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: and I just it's not something that I'm going to

804
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time worrying about. I mean, we

805
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about titles all the time, about any new GM

806
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. People say that you know, and I think

807
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: everyone one knows who the acting GM on a day

808
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: to day basis is. I mean, yes, Jerry does his stuff,

809
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: but Will McClay is, you know, it's kind of a

810
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: right hand man with him and to him and Stephen,

811
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: So they they they figure out ways to like massage titles.

812
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: What's his title, Chris Richard? Uh, it's passing defensive backs

813
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: coach and passing game quassa specifically cornerbacks coach because Greg okay,

814
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: he's the passing game coordinator. We've seen the everyone's seen

815
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: the clip. What's the safety? Everyone has seen the clip

816
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: of him going off on Sean Lee and Layton Vanderesh.

817
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: What do you think he's talking about? What was killing

818
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: the team? Was? It was it past defense? Right? So

819
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: just by that you can kind of see who the

820
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator really is. I mean he was he was

821
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: going off on two linebackers about the way that they're

822
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: playing the run that hadn't given up a pass. Yeah, So,

823
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's really clear that he's the

824
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, defensive coordinator and he it was calling plays

825
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: at the time. In two or three weeks, Cowboys pr

826
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: is gonna send out an email and christ Shard's gonna

827
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: have a new title under his name, and they're not

828
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: going to tell us anything about his contract terms. But

829
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: well then somebody two three weeks, Yeah, when's the story

830
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: break like tomorrow? Well yes, good point, the story will

831
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: break while you're in Orlando and then the email will

832
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: come out of two or three weeks. That that video

833
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: the showing right now, he's addressing the entire defense, like

834
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: on the sideline, He's addressing the entire defense, and that

835
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: would be in the That was not the Arizona I

836
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: mean that was Rod. Looked Rod was on the bench,

837
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: looked like he had the grease board. He was probably

838
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: talking to the past Rush sixty five. I don't know, Ringo. No,

839
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: that clip was probably while a game. That was not

840
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: definitely was who's the guy with the dress? I saw

841
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: a team in the background. It looked like they had

842
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: on red jersey, but I don't know. It wasn't Rams.

843
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: That clip was clearly at and T Stadium. Any any

844
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: chances there were cuss boards in there? I don't know

845
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe he was just saying, I love what

846
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: we're doing today, guys, but we could be doing it better.

847
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Come get a hug after the game. I just I

848
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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. It's okay, all right, thank you, Nick. We've

914
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: made an executive decision to push back the whole free

915
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: agency talk and free agent list, so we'll need a

916
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: whole show for that. Wait that next week. We probably

917
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: need a few weeks of shows for that. Yeah, we'll

918
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: do that later on in the meantime. From Ray Thomas Done. Hello,

919
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: Hello guys, Hello man. All right, Um, I wouldn't mind

920
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: christ By Shards the defensive coordinator, but it needs to

921
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: be his system. I mean I wanted to change his

922
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Nikki're right, there's nothing wrong with fresh respective.

923
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: I mean, just bringing everybody back and doing the same

924
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: isn't working. There's nothing wrong with change. I was kind

925
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: of disappointed you You you talk about Jerry's radio show.

926
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: He also he dismissed the rams notion that they knew

927
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: it was coming, basically blamed it on footwear. Really, four

928
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: quarters and you had a problem with footwear, Who's who's

929
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: responsible for that? That's the coach. If if they knew

930
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: to see, if they if his rams are right and

931
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: they knew what was coming, that's coaching. So now if

932
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: we don't know, there's other reasons that Garrett's the head

933
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: coach here now. Be to be fair, we don't know

934
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: how good better he could be on a different under

935
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: different climate, in a different environment on another team. So

936
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: there's that. But my biggest issue was this offensive coordinator

937
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: position and just saying I mean, it was kind of

938
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: funny he says there's no change, just Garret did. And

939
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: then here he comes the real people in charge, like Steve,

940
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, like Steven say, well that's too early. I mean,

941
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: something has to change. I mean just saying, oh, we

942
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: just bring everybody back and doing the same. It hasn't

943
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: It hasn't worked right, right me just ask you this,

944
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: And it's been a while since you've called, so it's

945
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: good to hear your voice again, But um, can you

946
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: do if Jason Garrett has a couple of guys in mind,

947
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: then they may make a change. They're they're thinking that out.

948
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: And he gets a radio show and he says, what

949
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: are they gonna do at the offensive coordinator? And you're

950
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: still a ways away from making that. He did not

951
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: say that Scott Linehan's coming back. He's saying, right now,

952
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: we don't anticipate any changes right now, we don't anticipate

953
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: any changes. But what else can he say at that moment?

954
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: Steven answered it differently, but I'm I don't think he said, oh, definitely,

955
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Scott's coming back. He was amazing. He said, well, right now,

956
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate that. He had to give himself some ounts.

957
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: You're You're right, I'm not saying that that's what was

958
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: he said that was going to be the issue here.

959
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: But I just kind of hope there is a change.

960
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: Nothing against sky Linehan, but there's nothing wrong with fresh perspective.

961
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: Your point is just you want to see a change,

962
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: boss of what everybody saying. You want to see a change.

963
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: That's the point, right, And you're so many people with

964
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: a different system. I mean, you say you said, I

965
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: don't know if Mike McCarthy would come in here as

966
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. I don't know, but if he, if

967
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: he hypothetically, if he was developing, he would take the job.

968
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: He's an upgrade. I'm sorry, he's an upgrade. Whatever you

969
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: want to say about this coaching style at Green Bay,

970
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: he's an upgrade. He has skins on the wall. It's

971
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: a different system. Or whoever you want to bring in here.

972
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: Just get a bit of different set of assist the

973
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: different system in here as far as you know. Because Dak,

974
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Dak's best game was a Jaguars game, rpo him to death. Teams.

975
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: He's a solid quarterback. He's never gonna be the kind

976
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: of guy. Did you want to throw it about forty

977
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: or fifty times? And that's basically what the RAM said.

978
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dak, if you can beat this passion, go

979
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: ahead and do it. The problem with the problem was

980
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: we didn't. In my view, we're having been using Dak

981
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: to his best, to his best potential. All right. We

982
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: appreciate the call, and I agree with everything he said.

983
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: I can't think of one thing he said that's every

984
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: one thing. Go ahead, because I don't I personally don't

985
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: think that it's hard for me to see a scenario

986
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,479
Speaker 1: where Mike McCartney is a great fit. And the reason

987
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: why is because if you're saying that, if you're saying

988
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: that this offense or that the offense needs to be

989
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: catered to Dak, guess what, that's not what Mike McCarty

990
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: has been doing for the last however many years, Like

991
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with a quarterback that can take you

992
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: apart with his arm. That's not what Dak's strength is.

993
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: So to me, if you're going to change out the

994
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I think you want to be looking for

995
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: someone who is called an offense whether the skill of

996
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback are very different than the skills of the

997
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: quarterback that McCarthy's been dealing with in Green Bay. That

998
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: says nothing about Mike McCarthy as a coach. Oh well,

999
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: great coach. I just think you got to find somebody

1000
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: that fits for this quarterback if you're gonna make that change.

1001
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: I agree with everything y'all just said. I agree with

1002
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: Ray's overall point, but it's the classic case of like

1003
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: one man's trash being another man's treasure, because go check

1004
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: in with what people in Green Bay think about that

1005
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: offense and how much they underachieved with what I think

1006
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: most people would agree is the best quarterback in football. Yeah,

1007
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: and so I can't say he's a definite upgrade, and

1008
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: I certainly don't think he's the right guy to work

1009
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: with a twenty five year old mobile quarterback. He's made

1010
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: it clear he's taking the year off, He's probably got

1011
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: another year on that contract, and he's getting paid for it.

1012
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: You know that happens a lot. You get fired and

1013
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, you're still gonna pay unless you

1014
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: get the right opportunity. Right, that's the whole thing. It

1015
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: has to be the perfect opportunity. You might as well

1016
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: just sit out right. I mentioned I mentioned that story

1017
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: from The Ringer this morning earlier, and I remember one

1018
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: of the stats from it was that, according to next

1019
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: Gen stats, Zeke Zeke was run right into an eight

1020
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: or more man box on like forty or forty one

1021
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: percent of his carries against the rams. They were just

1022
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: charging right into a load of fix is. Yeah, and

1023
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: you're saying it wasn't running outside, it was running between

1024
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: the tackles, right, forty one percent of the time right

1025
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: against an eight man box, right, I mean, I think

1026
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: it goes goes back to what we said on Mondays.

1027
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: You could you could call it stubbornness or arrogance, whichever

1028
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: word you prefer. I think they're kind of similar there.

1029
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think there's a philosophical disconnect between

1030
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: what these guys want to call and what might actually work.

1031
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'd want to know, and I'd want

1032
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: to know throughout the season, particularly in games as they won,

1033
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: how often they did that and how often and this

1034
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: is gonna did with this would take a ton of research,

1035
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: but how often they did that in the second half

1036
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: and it worked in games where in the first half

1037
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: it didn't. Because Yeah, the reason why I'm saying that

1038
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: is because when you start thinking about it from that perspective,

1039
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: you call plays based upon history, you call plays based

1040
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: upon I know, let's say, for example, that that played

1041
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: out like that that this season when they won games

1042
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: in the first half, they do it, and they would stop, stop, stop,

1043
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: stop stop. By the second half, that turned into a

1044
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: four yard run, they turned into an eight yard run,

1045
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. And so in the play

1046
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: call is mine, he's thinking, you just gotta stay consistent

1047
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: with it, because that no over time it works. That

1048
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: is like a philosophical debate. I don't know how to

1049
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: answer it. Like analytics people, that's their nightmare. And then

1050
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: there's the old school football coaches who are like, this works,

1051
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: and we've seen it work for the Cowboys a million times.

1052
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: We've also seen situations like the Seattle game. Literally, I

1053
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: mean the Seahawks one who established the run too. Pete

1054
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Carroll's the only guy in the league who's as obsessed

1055
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: with the run as the Cowboys are. And the front

1056
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: super Bowl on well, good point, but they rammed their

1057
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: faces into a brick wall forty times in that game

1058
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: when Russ I mean, let's be honest, Russell Wilson was

1059
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: killing them when he was throwing the ball and they're

1060
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: just like, no, nah, that's okay because it's gonna pop eventually.

1061
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: And it never popped. And that's the risk you run

1062
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: when you're committed to that. And it works when you're

1063
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Seattle in Week three and the opposing offense is so

1064
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: inept that you can average to two point nine yards

1065
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: per carry and it doesn't matter. It's not always going

1066
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: to work. Definitely not when you're playing a thirteen and

1067
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: three team with a great offense, and by the way

1068
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: a team that's took two weeks, by the way, they

1069
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: didn't play, so they had two weeks to really look

1070
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: at everything you do and to be able to say,

1071
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: here's how we want to think we can attack that.

1072
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: It beat that. I don't want to give the Cowboys

1073
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: a pass for all the stuff that came out of

1074
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: the Rams locker room about you know, there's you don't

1075
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: want to be predictable, and I get that, and you

1076
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: can coach that better. I think I think NFL teams

1077
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: are really good at this though. I think that's pretty normal.

1078
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Like I think it's pretty normal to like, you know,

1079
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin talked about it after the first Cowboys game.

1080
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: He's like, we've got two guys whose jobs it is

1081
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: to just watch the opposing sideline and figure out their signals,

1082
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: and usually by the second half, we've got a pretty

1083
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: good read on it. Like that's that's part of the game.

1084
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, you give a team two weeks

1085
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: to be able to look at film, they'll find probably

1086
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: a lot more. And that's one of the reasons why

1087
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: I think that when you when you talk about coaches

1088
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: that are innovative and know how to create different kinds

1089
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: of game plans. I think those coaches are even better

1090
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think that's one of the reasons

1091
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: why Belichick has had so much success in the postseason

1092
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: is because when you give them two weeks to be

1093
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: able to prepare for an opponent, their ability to be

1094
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: able to come up with a game plan that's custom

1095
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: built for this particular opponent. You think about the Rams,

1096
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: they did everything that they typically don't do in that game,

1097
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: and I would suspect the reason that they did it

1098
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: is because as they were looking through and really taking

1099
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: time to dive into the Cowboys, they saw some things

1100
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: that say, we can exploit this, We can exploit that

1101
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: running game. Maybe they went back and looked at that

1102
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: Indianapolis game and said, we see some things here that

1103
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: even though running isn't necessarily the top priority of what

1104
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: we do, we can we can have a lot of

1105
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: success there. Again, don't understand why it hasn't really been mentioned,

1106
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: but Suaphilo, like was he hurt? You know, like why

1107
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: didn't he play? Because they ran the ball better with him.

1108
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they ran the ball better during the season

1109
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: when Suaphilo was in there healthy. Now, if he wasn't

1110
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: that's one thing. But he was what he was active.

1111
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: I just I know he was active, but I just assume,

1112
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: but was the like good enough to be playing the

1113
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: whole game? Well, and that's the same like you could

1114
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: have him active as a backup in case of emergency,

1115
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, That's that's what I'm saying. And that's

1116
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: what I'm curious to see because you know, they you know,

1117
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: it's very convenient, and I'm sure you play your best

1118
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: players in the playoffs. I get it, but it's very

1119
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: convenient now going into the season. You know, who would

1120
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: they want? They want their second round pick to be

1121
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: a starter. That's that's why you drafted him. But I mean,

1122
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: Suaphilo was was better when he was healthy. And I'm

1123
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: curious to see how this whole thing is gonna play out.

1124
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah there, because what if Frederick does come back and

1125
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: and Jason made some pretty you know, there's something comments

1126
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: there about how he's getting better and he's starting to

1127
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: get his strength back a little bit, So that's good

1128
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: signs for Frederick Looney. There are conversations to be had

1129
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: about what that offensive line is going to look like

1130
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: next year. Looney needs to be in contention for starting position.

1131
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: If if Suaphilo and h Connor and they're all going

1132
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: to be battling for guard, Joe Looney needs to be

1133
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: battling for guard in my opinion. Yeah, I don't know

1134
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: if he will. I know nothing. I one percent could

1135
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: be wrong, and I'll admit it right here if I am.

1136
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: But like I just we're gonna we're gonna talk about

1137
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Connor Williams's viability as a tackackle before before it's all

1138
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: said and done. And I think you should, especially if

1139
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: if Frederick comes back and now you really are thinking

1140
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: about Looney at guard, I think you absolutely should. Wasn't

1141
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: there a guard also that the Cowboys put on Iry

1142
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: Marcus Marcus Martin, But I believe he's up. Yeah, he's

1143
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: free agent ANC one more but we can't, which I

1144
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: think that's that was great. But on the other topic

1145
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: of coaching and scouting, the opposition to Jerry Jones, he

1146
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: made a good point but I kind of thought it

1147
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: was a damning point too in that interview because he

1148
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: said he was like, well, in ninety three or you know,

1149
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: after we won one of the Super Bowls, I went

1150
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: to the competition committee meetings, and everybody that we played

1151
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: was like we knew exactly what you were doing, Like

1152
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: we scouted everything, we knew based on how you lined up,

1153
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna do this. You can do that. We just

1154
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: couldn't stop you anyway, and that's great, which proves the

1155
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: point is, you know teams are going to do that

1156
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: and it won't necessarily stop you from executing. But it's

1157
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: not nineteen ninety two anymore, and you're probably not going

1158
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: to have that much of a talent edge in today's NFL,

1159
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: especially when you get to the playoffs, and that is

1160
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: why coaching matters. There, you go, well, we're about to

1161
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: end our show, but just to finalize it in real quick.

1162
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: I hopefully this doesn't take too long, but let's give

1163
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: some predictions. We're out of the run. But it doesn't

1164
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: mean that we're gonna stop watching football this weekend or

1165
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: the following weekend. So this weekend, New England versus Kansas City.

1166
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: Who are you pigging rooting interests? I'm rooting for Kansas City. Kansas,

1167
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: Nick are you picking? I'm rooting for Kansas City. It's

1168
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: all the same at this point, I'm rooting for Kansas.

1169
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: No one cares about who you're rooting for you're rooting

1170
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: for Texas. Who are you going to win? And I'm

1171
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: just sitting Okay, here's the deal. I don't watch those

1172
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: teams enough to be able to give a prediction, So

1173
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Kansas City. Yeah, well there you go, cheeze,

1174
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: all right, Kansas City. Um, he's a better football team

1175
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: and they'll win at home. I mean, it's their year,

1176
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: and I think the better football teams all year have

1177
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: been Kansas City and in New Orleans. You think, well,

1178
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna affect them. Who either one both? They both

1179
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: got to play in it. No, zero degrees. Nothing would

1180
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: make me happier than a Saints Chiefs Super Bowl. It would.

1181
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean, as a football fan, it would be exciting.

1182
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm from New Orleans. I would love to see the

1183
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: Saints win. First. The Patriots are just like they're a dragon.

1184
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: I'll believe that they're gone when they're gone, because they've

1185
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: been in the last two. They've been in four of

1186
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: the last five. Andy Reid has a bad I mean

1187
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I know he won, they won last week, good for them,

1188
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: but he's got a bad record in the playoffs, bad

1189
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: record in big moments. I think the Pats will find

1190
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: a way to win. And honestly, this might just be

1191
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: my natural pessimism, but I want the Saints to win,

1192
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: and they played a close game with the Rams. I

1193
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: just I think it's going to be a Patriots Rams

1194
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know, the Saints to take out the Rams. Actually,

1195
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: my rooting interested with the Rams. I'm really rooting fills

1196
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: two teams because I think a rematch at that game

1197
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: earlier this season, Rams Chiefs will be fun on a

1198
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Honestly, you can't the Saints Chiefs would be.

1199
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the Saints beat the Rams at that same game,

1200
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: so they could play that same time. I can't, I

1201
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: get you, but I think it'll be a different game.

1202
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: I think it would be a little lower score game

1203
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: because I do think the Saints have a much better

1204
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: defense than the Chiefs. To true, I think it'll be

1205
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: a much more wide open, pass happy The defenses will

1206
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: make some plays and like they did in that first game,

1207
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: there'll maybe some defensive scores. But I just think it'll

1208
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: be a wide open game. It'll be back and forth.

1209
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: I think the Saints, if they're there, I think their

1210
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: defense will be a lot better than I don't think

1211
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: you can go wrong. So there's four possible Super Bowls, right,

1212
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: I think they would all be great. I think radio

1213
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: ratings are good. Yeah, you got you got teams in

1214
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: here that are all good teams, no doubt about it. Well,

1215
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: you have the one two in both conferences, right, and

1216
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the MVP of the league, whoever that is.

1217
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna have the Offensive Player of the year, whoever

1218
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: that is. And you're gonna have the defensive player of

1219
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: the year. I mean you have them right now, That's

1220
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. Now, this is objectively, this is as

1221
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: good as a championship Sunday has been in a long time. Yeah,

1222
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking forward to watching. It can be fun

1223
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: even though we're not in it. One day show one day,

1224
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: I just saw some news come out that Cole Beasley

1225
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: just had another bait. Well he did, just had a

1226
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: new bat. Yeah, Jovi Carter Beasley, that's their third. Yeah.

1227
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: I didn't even realized she was again this just in

1228
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: this price tag just went up a little bit more

1229
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: because three kids. Well, thank you guys so much for

1230
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: tuning in. We'll be back next Wednesday at eleven a m.

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Speaker 1: has been the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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