1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: It's obvious that the revolutionary spirit is becoming overwhelming in 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: the United States, and today we're going to get into 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: where that comes from, why it started, and what you 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: can do about it by reviewing Woke and Weaponized, a 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: book by Robert Borton's today on The David Rutherford Show. 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Robert, Welcome to the show. 7 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about digging into this issue, as everybody 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: who's paying attention to what's going on in America right 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: now knows the activists that we're seeing all over the country, 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: in particular in Minnesota. These are people that are trained 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: activists and what it would appear by looking at their manuals, 12 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: whether it's Antifa or the socialist movements they come from. 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: All of this originates basically in Marxist ideology. 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: Now, you and. 15 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: The award winning journalist Alex Newman got together and did 16 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: a deep dive on this and wrote a book about 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: the whole thing called Woke and Weaponized, and the sub 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: title of that is How Karl Marx Won the Battle 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: for American Education. Let's just start out, what made you 20 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: want to dig into this and write a book about this. 21 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, David, I homeschooled my three young kids, and I 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: just see this country going in the wrong direction, and 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: there's so many good hearted people that are trying to 24 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: make it better for us, people like Donald Trump, and 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of political pundits on the right, 26 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: and you know, to fix a problem, you have to 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: understand the root cause. And a lot of times I 28 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: see solutions that maybe you know, correct an issue, but 29 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: aren't addressing the root cause. And so Alex and I 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: wanted to go back to the root cause. How did 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: we get to where we are today? Because you and 32 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: I grew up in America that is very different than 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: it is today, and it was shocking. You know, we 34 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: know that the kind of the teachers' unions and the 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Department of Education and all that, but we actually traced 36 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: it back to. 37 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: The eighteen twenties. 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: We went back and looked at the nineteen fifties in 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: the United States, and if you think that us AID 40 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: is something new and all that corruptions, the Marxists were 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: using it similar programs in the nineteen fifties. And so 42 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: there was a report out called the Reese Report, and 43 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: so in order to you know, correctly identify solutions to 44 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: the problems we see in this country and to understand, 45 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: you know, what's going on in Minnesota. You know, how 46 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: did a socialist get elected governor or mayor in New 47 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: York City? How do we have you know, people like 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: AOC and Congress. We have to figure out how did 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: our country go from liberty to a country that is 50 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: embracing these collectivist ideologies. And so we did a ton 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: of research in this book so that we can bring 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: you the facts you know that we draw out and 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: just weave it through history so you understand the things 54 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: that are going on today. And then you know, people 55 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: know our education system is broken. But what this book 56 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: does that very few books have done before it is 57 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: try to outline things, especially Christians and churches can be 58 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: doing in the future to make sure that we are 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: leading our children in the way. 60 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: They should go. 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: So we felt like it was time to address these 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: issues head on so that our children and grand children 63 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: would have the same country to grow up in that 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: we had. 65 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I love that initiative. I mean everywhere, and I travel 66 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: the country every year. You know, I'm on the road 67 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: almost every week, speaking and interacting with people from all 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: different states, all different backgrounds. And the thing that seems 69 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: to be the most common reality, whether you know people 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: are conservative, liberal, libertarian, whatever, independent, whatever they are, is 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: everybody's kind of displeased with the educational system. They realize 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: that what they studied, even you know, twenty years ago 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: is radically different than you know, what their kids are 74 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: being exposed to now. I mean, I even see it. 75 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: My four children go to a private school, you know, 76 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: and I chose not to send them to the public 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: schools because they've deteriorated where I'm from in the hopes. 78 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: But there is this kind of underlying globalist ideology that's 79 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: being promoted, and not quite as dramatic as teaching socialism 80 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: or you know, a propping Marxism up or anything like that, 81 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: but you could see, you can see the undercurrents of it. 82 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: You can see how it's kind of the because it's 83 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: an international baccalaureate program, and how those have fused into 84 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: it as well. And I was listening to your latest 85 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: podcast on the Refining Rhetoric podcast, and I recommend everybody 86 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: check that out, where you and Alex were talking about 87 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: this this idea that you know, it's it. It started 88 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: really with this guy, you know, Robert Owen, back in 89 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the day in the eighteen hundreds, and why he created 90 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: this idea. Could you drill down on that so people 91 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: can understand that it's not just the natural progress of technology, 92 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: or the natural progress of or the limited learning capacity 93 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: of modern students because of technology, whatever that is, but 94 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: that this is a focused thing that took place. 95 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so people need to understand that our public 96 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: school is not failing. It's wildly successful. It's just wildly 97 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: successful in the founder's vision of what it was going 98 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: to do to our country, not wildly successful at teaching 99 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: kids how to read, write, and do math. So most 100 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: people have heard that our public school system came from Prussia. 101 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: Most people have no idea what Prussia is because this 102 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: country that doesn't exist anymore. But it was Germany pre 103 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: World War One, effectively, and they got this idea of 104 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: public education from a guy named Robert Owen who was 105 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: a collectivist in Indiana in the eighteen twenties. 106 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: We went and got hit the documents that he wrote. 107 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 3: His collectivist commune, like many failed just after a couple 108 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: of years. And he blamed the fact that children were 109 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: being raised by their parents and so they hadn't been 110 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: conditioned for this collectivist ideology. And most people, You've got 111 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: to understand, prior to the year eighteen hundred, and really 112 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: prior to the year eighteen fifty, almost everyone in our 113 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: country was homeschooled or went to a kind of a 114 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: Christian school that was held out of their church. And 115 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: so he basically, through his writings, basically identified a trinity 116 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: of evil that could only be corrected if a very 117 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: strong public school system was enacted in the US, and 118 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: that the relationship between parents and their children could be 119 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: cut off so that they could be engaged in this 120 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: collectivist ideology. And the trinity of evil that he was 121 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: fighting against would not be recognized by any of us, 122 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: but they were religion, private property, and family or marriage. 123 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: And so today and why the subtitle is or why 124 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: Karl Marx won is because you know, more than half 125 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: of kids are born out of wedlock. If you're successful 126 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: in this country by any means, you're pie paying fifty 127 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: percent of what you earn in taxes. So private property 128 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: is basically gone right. And only about thirty four percent 129 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: of kids can read at grade level. And you know, 130 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: different survey show that gen Z has embraced socialism. So 131 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: all three ideas that Robert Owen had they brought them 132 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: into Prussia. Then people like Horace Man brought those out 133 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: of Prussia and brought him here to the United States 134 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: with funding from groups like the Rockefellers and the Ford Foundation, 135 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: and infused it into our teachers colleges in the nineteen fifties. 136 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: Let's let's go to that alone. 137 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: So obviously, with the industrialization, I mean, you know, Marx 138 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: and Angles were prolific, you know, just writing a ton 139 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: eighteen forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, I think you know, the 140 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Manifesto really launched during that time late eighteen eighties, spread 141 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: all through Europe, moved its way around, and then in 142 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundred you really started to see the 143 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: ideas of communism begin to take hold in these these 144 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: different factions that were these revolutionaries that were beginning not 145 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: only in Germany, but you saw them in England, you 146 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: saw them in France, in Spain, you saw them all 147 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: through eastern Europe. As a result of the industrial Revolution, 148 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: because what we had the agregarian society move into the 149 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: cities to look for better money, more secure, which then 150 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: pulled the fathers out of the families. And now all 151 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're collectivized as the working man, which 152 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: then translated into well, we're being oppressed, we need to 153 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: bond together. So how was it that the the induct 154 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: and I'm getting there, trust me. How is it that 155 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: the leaders of the industrialization i e. The Rockefellers and 156 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: all the other people that were building the modern industrialized way, 157 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: why would they then come in and want to facilitate 158 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: an educational system that ultimately would work against them. 159 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 160 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So why would they want to bring in 161 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: up someone who didn't like the propoletariat and yeah, and 162 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: that idea ideology, and so what they needed was obedient workers. 163 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: And they saw that that in communism, it's not that 164 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: everyone has the same thing. It's that there's the rulers 165 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: who have all the power, and then there is the 166 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: workers who do whatever the rulers say. Otherwise they don't 167 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: get the bread and housing and you know, whatever goods 168 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: the civil government wants to give them for being good citizens. 169 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: So they wanted to bring people in because they what 170 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: they saw was and they've been quoted saying this is 171 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: basically they wanted to merge the Soviet Union or Russia 172 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: at that time with the United States, and the only 173 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 3: way to do that was through education, and so that 174 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: what they wanted was obedient workers who would be willing 175 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: to do very dull jobs in a factory that was 176 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: very dirty for an extended period of time. And so 177 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: someone who was educated in the classical method of you know, 178 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: reading the greats and understanding freedom and humanity, that would 179 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: be a person who's probably unlikely to be willing to 180 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: sacrifice their life for being a corporate slave making minimum wage. 181 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: So that was kind of their ideology of bringing it 182 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: in so that they could amass more power to themselves. 183 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: So a lot of people say, you know, why do 184 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: these rich people like this, Well, because they can stay 185 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: rich and even get richer off of these ideologies, and 186 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: so that was that was part of it. Part of 187 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: it was they they basically what Russia was doing is 188 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: they would be bringing journalists over and these different education 189 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: thought leaders and they'd be they basically made fake towns 190 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: that they would bring them in to and so they 191 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: would visit a fake city. All the kids would be smiling, happy, 192 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: the citizens would be great, the grocery stores are filled, 193 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: you know, all the things that you would see that 194 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: you would think you would want to see or show 195 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: someone and then the rest of the country's bankrupt because 196 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: of it. But they got this fake basically idea, you know, 197 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: fake news back then. We have fake news now. So 198 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: the more things change, the more they say the same. 199 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: And so they were shown a lie, they believed a 200 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: lie and could use it to further their own powers 201 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: and increase their own business. So that was the ultimate 202 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: reason for that. 203 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. 204 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: Obviously, as the Bolshevik Revolution exploded took over Russia, the 205 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: infighting began, Lenin dies On emerges, Trotsky gets exiled, right, 206 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: and Trotsky ends up coming back to the United States 207 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: with his influence really right, even though he was out 208 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: of the United States, But that influenced the Trotskyites, if 209 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: you will, which ultimately became, you know, the beginning of 210 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: the modern day neo cons which were you know, co 211 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: mingled now at major universities and institutions. And you talk 212 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: about that in the nineteen fifties, How pervasive was that 213 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: infestation into universities of kind of the Marxist ideology within 214 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: the educational system. Do you have any sense of how 215 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: large that was and how prevala it was. 216 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Appendix B of our book goes through a 217 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: lot of this in very great detail. But really what 218 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: Russia noticed was in the Marxists in general the Collectivists, 219 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: was that US couldn't be taken over without really getting 220 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: to the kids in the education system. So, you know, 221 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: I've heard numbers of roughly eighty percent of the resources 222 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: that the Communists used to try to infiltrate US. You know, 223 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: obviously they attacked Hollywood as well, but you know, if 224 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 3: they put twenty percent of their money into Hollywood, they 225 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: put eighty percent into education. And so you know, it 226 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: started with the teachers colleges. So you know, you didn't 227 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: need a lot of people to have their minds change. 228 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: So if you can get the teachers colleges minds changed, 229 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: then they're gonna be the ones riding the curriculum. They're 230 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: gonna be the ones teaching the next generation of teachers. 231 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: And so so that's they did a really targeted attack 232 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: at the independence of Americans through through their strategy and 233 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: so so it was a significant investment there and it 234 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: perfolates itself today. I mean, just look at the teachers' unions, 235 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: where you know, one hundred percent of their money goes 236 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: to collectivist causes. You know, they've adopted the communist fist 237 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: and you know, all nearly all their graphics today, and 238 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: so it's just it's been a it really has been 239 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: a long march through our institutions. But you know, it 240 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: really was some of the richest men in America that 241 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: financed it through these nonprofits that they started. They used 242 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,479 Speaker 3: US grant money to bring these ideologies into the university 243 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: and then they've slowly been spreading it so so that really, 244 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: you know, any of us who have been educated, you know, 245 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: in the last forty years or so through the public 246 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: school system, have have one that's been saturated with this 247 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: collectivist ideology. And now we see kind of the fruit 248 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: of that because it takes a while, right, we had 249 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: a Christian culture that established, right, and it takes a 250 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: while to wean that down. And so finally, really over 251 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: the last ten years since really the Obama administration, have 252 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: we seen that kind of Christian culture. Uh, really, that 253 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: benefit has waned completely nearly and this uh, that's why 254 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: there seems to be a real quick flip. 255 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: But it wasn't really a quick flip. It was over time. 256 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: And so they are these protesters they're training Marxists, and uh, 257 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: it's something that's taken over our world. And the idea 258 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: is private property. They think private property is evil. They 259 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: think it's the root of all evil, and so that's 260 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: ultimately what they're trying to get rid of. 261 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that so much of what you 262 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: said was just provoking thoughts as you're going, and you're right, 263 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: But what a lot of people have you know, you 264 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: have to understand is that the private property is the individual. 265 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: It's the individual soul. 266 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: This is a deeper It's not just uh, you know, 267 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: when people hear collectivists are socialists, it's not it's not it. 268 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: It's you're You're the private property that they want to overcome. 269 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: And and you know those ideas of our faith are 270 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: family or communities are the boundaries for that. It was 271 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: interesting you talked when you were talking about the influx 272 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: of rich people paying for these ideologies coming in. My 273 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: parents both went to the University of Michigan and were 274 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: there from sixty four to essentially sixty eight, sixty seven 275 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: sixty eight. 276 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: I have known my parents. I was born in Michigan. 277 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: Oh really, where about ain Arbor? I was born in 278 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: a and Arbor Hospital. 279 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. 280 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: But hey, it's funny that was during the times of 281 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Abby Hoffman and the really the i think a seed 282 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: of the counterculture revolution, the anti war movement, right, the 283 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: civil rights movement, and when you dig into those and 284 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: you really look at the underbelly of funding where a 285 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: lot of that came from was leftist Marxist organizations and funding. 286 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: There's a I'm not sure if you're familiar with the 287 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: Martyr Made podcast, but with Darryl Cooper fantastic podcast, he 288 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: actually does this really amazing I think it was like 289 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: six part four hour each podcast history of the Jim 290 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: Jones experience, right, the drink and the kool aid. But 291 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: it was this really interesting you know, it was the 292 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: timeline of his indoctrination going from just an Indiana religious 293 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: Christian to this radical socialist ideology, you know, ideological nut 294 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: job you know, on meth for ten years, right, and 295 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: but he describes subsequently what was taking a part around 296 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: him societally and those the different revolutions that were taking 297 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: place where a lot of like college kids initially thought 298 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: they were just you know, doing what was right, protesting 299 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: the Vietnam War, protestesting equality, when really the undergirders of 300 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: all of these were radical Marxist ideologies that were well funded. 301 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: And so you know, I think it led to kind 302 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: of the demise of the movement with the you know, 303 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: where they started bombing local facilities that you know, had 304 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: the Weathermen, the underground, the weathermen group, you had a 305 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: bunch of the Black Panther movement became this radicalized, violent 306 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: group that wanted to pull down they were you know, 307 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: anarchists essentially, they all moved into that, which is what 308 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: all this is at its core. But the interesting thing 309 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: for me was, you know, post nineteen seventy five, people 310 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: the fatigue of this was so substantial that it almost 311 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: seemed like there was kind of this reaction to it, 312 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: and the movement kind of faded out. 313 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: And then we saw what this resurgence of. 314 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: Maybe American populism in the eighties, right, and for that 315 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: brief time we really you know, then the fall of 316 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, and then it was the nineties where 317 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: the idea I really began to see of political correctness, 318 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: which is a socialist, communist idea in its core, started 319 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: to emerge. But you know, and you started, now this 320 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: next wave of it that's going through, which is now 321 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: the millennials, gen Z and whatever. The next group which 322 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: is you know, the I mean the gen Z group. 323 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: They rough estimates millennials what eighty million people. It's bigger 324 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: than the boomers. When in the modern series of events, 325 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: let's call it, from the fall the Soviet Union until now, 326 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: did you guys find the real shift where what was 327 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: being taught was moving towards these these ideas. 328 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so we didn't look as much on 329 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: the modern issues because we wanted to go through the history. 330 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: But what happened was the collectivists clearly we're losing with 331 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: the fall of you know, the fall of the Wall 332 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: and the USSR breaking up part, and so they had 333 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: to retreat and regroup, and we had you know, Margaret 334 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. But just prior to Ronald Reagan 335 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: getting in, they started this Department of Education at the 336 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: federal level, which really codified the kind of Marxist power 337 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: inside of the federal government, inside of our education system. So, 338 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: like any good bureaucrat does when the other sides in power, 339 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: you just keep your head low, You push papers as 340 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: slow as you legally can to stop them from changing 341 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: anything that you want to do in the future, and 342 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: you just try to keep your job. And so you know, 343 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 3: whether you had you know, common Core, which kind of 344 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: came out of this was another kind of rewrite of laws, 345 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: the Every Child Succeeds Act, which was passed in the sixties, 346 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: and so that was their kind of next time to 347 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: try to collectivize education in the United States. That they 348 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: really put a lot of effort and energy behind that. 349 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: The same thing, you know, this idea of social emotional learning, 350 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: you know that that is so prevalent today that actually 351 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: came out from a guy named B. F. 352 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 4: Skinner. That's that you may have talked about before on 353 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: this show. But but all. 354 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 3: Of these ideas kind of have been able to be 355 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 3: codified kind of one through the teacher training programs and 356 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 3: through the rise of technology has allowed this as well 357 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: to Perilla relate. I mean, just think about like how 358 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: addicted Instagram or Facebook or social media. It's all using 359 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: these psychological triggers that are in us, and so they're 360 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: using that in education. And really again there's about fifteen 361 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: to twenty years there where the Marxist and leftist collectivists 362 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 3: were keeping their head down because things aren't going their direction. 363 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: But really, with the election of Barack Obama, and he 364 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: was a trained Marxist, that was when they went full boar, 365 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: and they had eight full years to really put all 366 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: of these things in place, to really change the tie 367 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: to what we see today and the fact that only 368 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: thirty four percent of kids can read at grade level. 369 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: It's not accidental. It's intentional because if you can read, 370 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: then you can dictate your own life, and it's very 371 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: much more difficult for a group of elites to control you. 372 00:23:54,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: And so they've intentionally picked bad ideas to implement in 373 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: the colleges, and so our teachers, even if they want 374 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: to do a good job. 375 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: My wife was a public school teacher for ten years. 376 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: When she started homeschooling our kids and reading the classical 377 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: conversations books on how to teach a kid, she's like, 378 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: they never taught us any of this in four years 379 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: of college. They didn't never taught us how to pass 380 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: on knowledge to the next generation. All they taught was 381 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: how to manage classrooms. And so it's absolutely been intentional 382 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: the whole entire time. I mean, just look at President Trump, 383 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 3: all the things he's trying to do all the you know, 384 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: bureaucrats and lawyers and all the people who are stymying him. 385 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: And so, you know, we have an entrenched Marxist bureaucrat 386 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: bureaucracy in our country, and we got to get rid 387 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 3: of it. 388 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 4: And so it never leaves. Sometimes it just goes into hiding. 389 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: That's a fantastic response, Thank you, Robert. All right, So 390 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: how are they deceiving parents right now? How are parents 391 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: not aware? I mean, obviously, if all you got to 392 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: do is look at you move into an area, first 393 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: thing you do is you go up online and you 394 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: look at what schools and their ranking systems and you 395 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: know all of this which is all manipulated. Right. They've 396 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: got schools where I'm from that are like A rated 397 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: that I know for a fact are horrific, and they're 398 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, the the quality, like you said, of grade 399 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: level competency is abysmal. But yet they're still getting these 400 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: A ratings and so it helps people move into areas. 401 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: How layered is the deception at the local level. 402 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's been completely I mean it's a 403 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 3: mass siop really if you break it down. So we 404 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: at the very beginning of the book have an eighth 405 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 3: grade graduate tests from eighteen ninety five. And so when 406 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: people say, oh, you know, my grandmother used to they 407 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: only got eighth grade educations, I was like, if you 408 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: go look at what she had learned by eighth grade, 409 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: it's more than most master's degree students have learned, you. 410 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: Know, I mean it really is. 411 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: I mean, your your master's degree in feminist, you know, literature. 412 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: You don't know half of what your grandma knew with 413 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: just a simple eighth grade education that was given in 414 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: a one room schoolhouse. And so it's been you know, 415 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: a systemic you know, really reduction in expectation and children 416 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: over you know, decades, and so most of us were 417 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: raised in a system that had low expectations compared to 418 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: ten years before us and ten years before that, and 419 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: so now we don't even know what a good education 420 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: would look like, or how long it takes, or how 421 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: to even educate the next generation. And so I just 422 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: think about this, like when you and I were going 423 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: to school in kindergarten, our first grade, our parents would 424 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: not have dreamt. 425 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: Of sending us to the public school. 426 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: If we couldn't have like couldn't read, like we would 427 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: have had a good amount of reading versus now they 428 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: have kids that are entering the second and third grade 429 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: level whose parents have never even thought about teaching them 430 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: how to read, but because they think it's the school's responsibility. 431 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: And so yeah, absolutely, I mean, all these schools are 432 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: graded on a curve and so and they're graded against 433 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 3: low standards. So yeah, you're a rated school might be 434 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: the best school in the area, but it would be 435 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: you know, a de rated school one hundred years ago. 436 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: So it really is just this, there's this whole idea 437 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 3: the states. You know, it used to be in America 438 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: when public schools first got started, David, we didn't cover 439 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: this too much in it, but it was all counties, 440 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: so you know, your school board pick the curriculum. They 441 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: you know this, parents helped interview the teachers. Like it 442 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: was county oriented. You know, it was you know, maybe 443 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: the county paid some of it, parents paid some of it, 444 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: the local businesses paid some of it. And then they said, well, 445 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 3: if we could centralize this at the state level, uh, 446 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: then we could provide you know, equal outcomes for everyone. 447 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: And so then we started seeing these states take it 448 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: and then they controlled the curriculum, they controlled who you 449 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: could hire as a teacher, and so they took this 450 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: idea of like this, you still have these school boards 451 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 3: that you can go yell at once a week if 452 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: you want to. But they don't have any actual power 453 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: really to change anything other than deciding what color to 454 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: paint the gym. I mean, they have so much as 455 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: being controlled by the state and then the federal government. 456 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 3: Even though only about ten percent of public spending, your 457 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: public schools bills being paid by the government, they put 458 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: in all these hoops for the states to jump through 459 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: to get their ten and who doesn't want more money 460 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: for the kids. And so I mean there are states 461 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: that are looking and I know North Carolina as one 462 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: of them, trying to research does it actually cost more 463 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: to comply with these federal laws to get the federal 464 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: funding than it does to actually actually get the money. 465 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: And so it's just been this. 466 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: You know, people will say, we want to help the kids, 467 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: and this is how we're going to help the kids, 468 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: and then they get and it sounds good, but it 469 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: doesn't work in practice, and so it's just continually gotten 470 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: to the point. 471 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: Now where we know no better. 472 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like a boiling frog right when 473 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: we first put them in the pot. It's cold, and 474 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: then it gets gets super hot. But he hasn't noticed 475 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: that the change at all. Or you know how they 476 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: I think, what train cheaper? 477 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Right? 478 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: They start with big pens and then start putting them 479 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: in smaller and smaller pens. And so that's just been happening. 480 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: And you and I haven't lived in a world where 481 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 3: we knew any different, and our parents may have had 482 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: a glimpse of a better world before all this happened, 483 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: but you know, pretty much anyone who was born after 484 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 3: nineteen forty has no recollection of an education system that 485 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: wasn't controlled and financed by the collectivists. 486 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Thank you for that. It was funny when you 487 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: were talking about school boards. When I first got out 488 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: of the teams, I worked for Blackwater for a little while, 489 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: and then I started I wanted to work with kids 490 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: because you know, you go overseas these war torn countries 491 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: and you just see the destitution of hope because no 492 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: one's able to get an education. 493 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, all right, I want to I'm 494 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: going to work with kids. 495 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to really help kids in whatever I learned 496 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: going through the seal teams and try to extrapolate all 497 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: those positive attributes of hard work and dedication, resilience, all 498 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: that piece, and I'm going to teach it to kids. 499 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: So I wrote my first book, which was a kid's book, 500 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: and it was about self confidence. And so I started 501 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: doing programs at the Why and at and at you know, 502 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: boys and girls clubs and anybody that would take me. 503 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: I'd go and I'd speak, and I remember eventually I 504 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: got to a place where I was able to go present. 505 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: I had got raised some money and I'd developed. 506 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: Basically an eight an eight episode like you know public 507 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: Access TV show which taught the eight components of self confidence. 508 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: And I'd produced this and I went someone had got 509 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: me in touch with the Palm Beach County school Board, 510 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: and I went up and I pitched the idea, Hey 511 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: let's put this on. They had just started, you know, 512 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: the Education Network within Palm Beach County Schools that was 513 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: being broadcast in all the schools. I was like, hey, 514 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: let's develop something that so I can teach this type 515 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: of curriculum. And it wasn't academic, it was it was 516 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: just self confidence, right. It was just how do you 517 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: teach a kid to have more self confidence. Actually in 518 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: that middle school age and one of the opening video, 519 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I come out of the water and I've got dive 520 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: tanks and you know, I'm wearing a dive knife. And 521 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm sitting around this table and I'd had like eighteen 522 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: calls and met with people, and I'm finally at the 523 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: table to talk about development, and the head of curriculum 524 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: she looks over and she goes, now, I don't think 525 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: this is going to work because you know, there's too 526 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: much of an underlying concurrent of violence in it. 527 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm like, excuse me, what are you 528 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: talking about. 529 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, you're you know, you're wearing you know, 530 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: the die, you know, wearing a knife, and we don't 531 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: want to promote that, and you know, you've got tattoos 532 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: and we don't know about that. And they just eviscerated 533 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: as it. I ended up finding out that they didn't 534 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: want to expose children to a special operations guy because 535 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: they thought I would be a recruiting for you know, 536 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 1: I'd indock them into a violent mindset or whatever it was. 537 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just it wasn't just public school system, 538 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: because I had access into the private school system, you know, 539 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: all over the Northeast and stuff. And I was getting 540 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: pushed back from those schools as well too, which were 541 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: way more radicalized than the public school system, because you know, 542 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: they're they're essentially indoctrinated. And that's when I and this 543 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: is two thousand and six, that's when I realized, Oh, 544 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: there's something going on here. There's something really pervasive in 545 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: what they're restricting from allowing these kids to learn. And 546 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: fast forward, you know, twenty years now, my kids come home, 547 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: they're doing a chapter on World War two or Civil War, 548 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, tell me what you learn. 549 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: And they're learning this cursory like whatever that's rooted in 550 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: the demonization of the American you know, uh, whatever in there. 551 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, what is going on? But obviously, 552 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: based on what you've learned and what we all feel 553 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: like we're seeing, this is a legitimate Uh, this is 554 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: legitimate activism pulling our kids away from being educated in 555 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: the right capacity. 556 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to realize that our country was founded 557 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: on the principles of private property, and that was extremely radical. 558 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 3: It is the first country in history, or at least 559 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: the first country in four thousand years that was founded 560 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 3: on this ideology of private property, and we went from 561 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: an outback country with just a few hundred people to 562 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: a superpower in you know, one hundred and fifty you 563 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: know years or so. And so during that time, yeah, 564 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: the collectivists, you know, saw this and saw that private 565 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: property rights were destroying it. Like how if you have 566 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: a king, you don't have private property because the kingos everything. Right, 567 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: if you have a monarchy, and if you have a 568 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: collective estate like right, you know, USSR or something like 569 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: that China, then it's the leaders. It's those in power 570 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: that own everything, and everyone else's you know, assigned their 571 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: position based on those things. And so it's ultimately like 572 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 3: through the Skinner psychology, they want everyone to behave the 573 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: exact same way, and that if you step out of line, 574 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: then you're going against the collective good. And so that's 575 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 3: what we saw in COVID that literally for twelve years 576 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: in public school and I'm sure most private schools as well, 577 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: because of this classroom management that they're teaching teachers. It's 578 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 3: not actually classroom management. It is teaching an individual to 579 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: not be an individual, but to be part of the 580 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: collective and the worst thing you can do if you're 581 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: part of a collective is to go against that collective. 582 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: And so ultimately that's that's the message that is being 583 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: taught implicitly in our schools, even if it's not explicitly 584 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: being taught through a curriculum. But again, I mean, you've 585 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 3: got guys like Bill Gates who've spent hundreds of millions 586 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: of dollars writing school curriculum and getting it adopted into 587 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: the school systems. You've got like the United Nations and 588 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: the World Economic Forum, Right, they make these rules and 589 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: then they get adopted, and they then get their ideology 590 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 3: written into our national standards, in our curriculums and the 591 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: ACT and SAT. You know, they make make tests that 592 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: let you get into college, and they form those to 593 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: a Marxist ideology. Like I remember when I took it, 594 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: you know, in the late nineties, taking my SAT. There's 595 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 3: a couple questions. I know what the right answer, I 596 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: knew the answer that they wanted me to ask was, 597 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: but it was very clearly Marxist ideology in the question sets. 598 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 3: And so everything that they're trying to do is condition 599 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: you to uh not buck the system, so that you'll 600 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 3: you'll be an obedient worker, bee in wherever they want 601 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: to put you. And and that's not human flourishing, that's 602 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 3: not being made in the image of God. And those 603 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 3: are the things that will allow us to you know, 604 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: become once again a country that respects individuals. And we 605 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: can see this kind of wokeness get pushed back. But 606 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 3: it didn't take didn't come overnight, and it's not gonna 607 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 3: get fixed overnight. 608 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: Very well. Put it's funny. 609 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: I just you know, was watching all of the speeches 610 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: given at the at the Endavos last week in the 611 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: world and Randy Winegarden's speech again unhinged rant about collectivism. 612 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: Is you know, even Larry Fink's talking about curriculum and 613 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: all these they're like, we got to permeate this curriculum 614 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: in a deeper level even now. One of the interesting things, 615 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: and this is the last little question before we talk 616 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: about the path forward, is you you look at what's 617 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: emerged in Minnesota or dating back to twenty twenty and 618 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: the BLM riots or you you know, the No King's rally, 619 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: and I find it hilarious that you know when Obama 620 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: no riots, right, you know, you did have the the 621 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: Tea Party movement, and then there was kind of the 622 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: what was the one, the one or the ninety nine 623 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: percenters in Wall Street Occupy Yeah Street, and then under 624 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: Trump right protests all the time, modern Trump protests. 625 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: All the time. 626 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: It seems like the indoctrination of these Marxist collectivist ideas 627 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years are now emerging where you 628 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: have a real activist population that is now they've taken 629 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: the the propaganda, the indoctrination process. Now they're in kind 630 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: of the next phase, right, which Juri Bresda voss, what 631 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: we've got demoralization, you know, the the I forget what 632 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: the second one is demoralization. Then it's what decolonization. No, 633 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: I forget what it is. But then this the action phase, right, 634 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: the action phase where now they're pushing them back against 635 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: the totality of the system. Right do you when you're 636 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: you're writing this book, I mean it must really just 637 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: you already had the instinct that the whole landscape was 638 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: what it was, But when you see what's going on, 639 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, you realize it's directly correlated to the influence 640 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: of these young kids over the last you know, their 641 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: entire educational system. 642 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about that. 643 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, there's obviously paid agitators, 644 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: but then there's just the people that go along or 645 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 3: the people who are able to you know, be kind 646 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 3: of tricked uh into going along against their better instincts. 647 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: And uh, it really is it's just part of the 648 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: it's part of this collectivist plan they've got, they've gotten root, 649 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: and now that they have to, they have to push 650 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: back on it. And so this is kind of it's 651 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: almost always like a last stand. And so you know 652 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: when uh, I mean just looks like Obama like he 653 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 3: uh deported more people than Trump has, and uh Tom Holman, 654 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 3: who's Trump's you know, lead guy, was also Obamas and 655 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: he gave him a medal. Well, they weren't activated at 656 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 3: that time. They they were told to stand down and 657 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 3: and uh just uh lay low because they are the 658 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: ones in power, and so they have. 659 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 4: They will use our our morals. 660 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: Against us, so that when we were in power, they 661 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: talk about these ideas of fairness and equity and all 662 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: these things. But it's only so that they can get 663 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 3: their voice, that they get their foot in the door. 664 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 3: But as soon as they get in power, they're gonna 665 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 3: shut all that down. And so what we're seeing is 666 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 3: they recognize that Donald Trump, unlike any president in my lifetime, 667 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 3: even more than Reagan, I believe, is actually going after 668 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: this encroached deep state that that has been taken over 669 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: by the Marxists, uh, you know, through over the period 670 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: of time. And so so this is a battle that 671 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 3: they must win, and so they can. They're willing to 672 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 3: sacrifice people. They're willing to send their worker bees to 673 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 3: the front line, you know, insight violence, right and if 674 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 3: they you know, tragedies that have happened, you know, those 675 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: those are intentional. They want medium moments and they don't 676 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 3: care how many of their people that they've brainwashed it 677 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: has to take for them to maintain power. And so 678 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: ultimately it's uh, it is it's a silent war. That's 679 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 3: what our appendix be is called written by military specialist 680 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: talking about this Marxist plan and how to indoctrinate our 681 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: country and take it over from the inside out. And 682 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 3: this is just another step in that that this collectivist 683 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 3: idea of us versus them, and uh yeah, so they 684 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 3: know that they are more eyes open than many conservatives 685 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: on what's actually going on. 686 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: What is the pathway forward? 687 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the pathway forward is for fathers to start taking 688 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: you know, control of their children's education, whether it's homeschooling 689 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: or private schooling. It's churches stepping up, creating you know, 690 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: education funds to get kids out of public schools. Make 691 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: sure you have scholarship funds to send your kids to 692 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 3: a private school or start a private school. Invite Christian 693 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 3: co ops, you know, homeschool groups to join your community. 694 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: It's allowing things like tax credits so that you can 695 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 3: you know, donate to scholarships funds. It is it is 696 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: ultimately going back to you know, God gives children to parents, 697 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 3: and parents need to take responsibility for raising them. And 698 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 3: then it's the church and local community. That doesn't mean 699 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 3: the state, that doesn't mean the federal government. It means 700 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 3: people you can touch and feel in your geographical area 701 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: to step up and do it. So we have the money, 702 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 3: we have the people, but we don't have a vision. 703 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 3: And so that's really what we're doing in those last 704 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 3: three and it's a lot of it starts. I mean, 705 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: the pastors were the ones who stepped up and preached, 706 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 3: you know, from from the pulpit during our revolutionary war 707 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 3: and showed the people that God wanted us to be independent, 708 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 3: that we needed to rely on Him, and so it's 709 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 3: ultimately the pastors need to step up, stop being afraid 710 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: of the teachers' union and fear God and tell families 711 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 3: that they can they can't send their kids to Caesar 712 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 3: anymore for an education. That they need to figure out 713 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 3: and work as a team for a plan to give 714 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 3: him a solid Christian education outside of the Marxist captured 715 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 3: public school system. 716 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: Brilliant answer. All right, what do you think is what 717 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: will be the catalysts in your mind for you know, 718 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to patriots, red Blood of America, whatever 719 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: that is, for people to recognize what the pattern of 720 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: what's going on to really begin to go at the 721 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: system or away from the system to generate their new metrics. 722 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: We had talked about before we came on the size 723 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: of the homeschooling. You said, it's about five million people 724 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: that's had massive growth over the last ten years. What 725 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: do you believe the catalyst will be that that pushes 726 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: people into real motivation that to move away. 727 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: From the traditional system. 728 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we're already kind of seeing 729 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 3: that as people get more exposed to what's going on, 730 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 3: But then you have you know, the right person gets 731 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 3: selected and you think the system's fixed, but it's still 732 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 3: still not there. And so ultimately, I mean, I hope 733 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 3: in reading the book, we Can Weaponized is going to 734 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: help give you the courage to make harder decisions for 735 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 3: your families. I think more people are having these conversations, 736 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 3: but we have to understand, like, the public school system 737 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 3: can't be reformed because it's doing exactly what it was 738 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 3: designed to do. And that's the main thing I want 739 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 3: people to get out of this book. 740 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 4: Is not failing. 741 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 3: It is wildly successful because it was a collectivist system 742 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: designed to rid America from its Christian heritage and to 743 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 3: destroy private property rights. And that's ultimately what the founders 744 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 3: of the system, the founders of these teachers' unions, wanted 745 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: to get out of it. And that's what we see 746 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 3: happening all around us today. So when you know the history, 747 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: do something about it, make different choices. You are going 748 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 3: to have to make a sacrifice. You're going to have 749 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 3: to make decisions that might not be popular with your 750 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 3: in laws or your neighbors. But until we take personal 751 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 3: responsibility for raising our children and make sure that the 752 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 3: Marxists are not in doctor Nadium because they will They 753 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 3: are happy to do it for you. I promise we 754 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 3: will continue down this path and our children and our 755 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 3: grandchildren will not live with the same prosperity that you 756 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 3: and I grew up with. 757 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: Roger. 758 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: That all right, Robert, where can people buy the book? 759 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: How can they continue to follow you? And what can 760 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: they do to initiate their increased education on the fight back? 761 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, this is the most important fight. 762 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 3: Whoever can you know, whoever understands education the best and 763 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 3: what it does is going to control the future. Another 764 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 3: way of saying, it is the hand that rocks the 765 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 3: cradle rules the world. And so yeah, go to Wocnweaponized 766 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 3: dot com or go to Amazon search woken Weaponized. We're 767 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: trying to get to the number one book so that 768 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 3: it gets a lot of publicity and more people read it. 769 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: You can follow me the Robert b Show on X 770 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 3: and I have my Refining Rhetoric podcast. We do one 771 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 3: podcast every single week, and we're actually in the middle 772 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 3: of a school Choice week podcast, so we actually got 773 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 3: five going out this week. 774 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 4: But those are the ways to get a hold of me. 775 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 3: And of course go to classical Conversations dot com. Enter 776 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 3: in your zip code and we'd love to get you 777 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 3: talking to a local homeschooling mom or dad. You can 778 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 3: help you get started today. 779 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 2: Outstanding. 780 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Robert for what you're doing and 781 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: making American parents aware. 782 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: God bless you. 783 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: Thank you, David,