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Speaker 2: What's some guys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Charterers Weekly presented by SPLITTERO. We are on

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Speaker 1: location NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis, Day one and money.

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Speaker 3: We could probably do a whole podcast on your travels here.

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Speaker 3: That's a nightmare, aything the people. Yeah, part of the

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Speaker 3: Arctic Blast. I know that people don't want to hear

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Speaker 3: about my trials, but yeah, I had a couple of

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Speaker 3: flights canceled. I was in Philadelphia with my daughter and

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Speaker 3: had to drive here. So yeah, ten hours through the end.

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Speaker 3: I I don't know. I'm just I'm stupid. I'm not

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Speaker 3: a smart person, and I just forgot about Western Pennsylvania

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Speaker 3: being a mountainous region. I just got you know what,

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Speaker 3: if I just get off the if I get off

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Seaboard, I'm gonna get out of this Arctic blast.

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Speaker 3: So then it's just gonna be just a quick cruise

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Speaker 3: into Indianapolis flat ground. And it's like, now, you dummy,

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Speaker 3: you're going through mountains at forty five hundred elevation, at

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Speaker 3: forty five feet of forty five hundred feet of elevation,

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Speaker 3: there's a blizzard and here's a wide out and yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it was it was an adventure. But hey, you're here, baby,

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Speaker 3: I am so what would be the right word? I

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Speaker 3: am so narcissistic that I was determined to get here

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Speaker 3: because I imagine the people just absolutely had to hear from me.

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Speaker 3: They have to just they my self importance is so

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Speaker 3: far off the charts that I was, Oh, I've got

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Speaker 3: to be there. I can't possibly not be there. What

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Speaker 3: would the people ever, what would they do? And they

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have anywhere to turn. So yeah, so here I

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Speaker 3: am after about eleven hours of driving. But appreciate everybody

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Speaker 3: for helping to accommodate and getting this thing squared away.

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Speaker 1: We're glad you hear a great podcast, Joe Horties, Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: What a way to kick it off. And I guess

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Speaker 1: before we get into Joe, we can maybe talk about

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Speaker 1: some of the things that he talked about at the

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Speaker 1: at the podium that we didn't really talk to him

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Speaker 1: about here. You know, he's not going to use the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag. Doesn't sound like the fifth year option on

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Speaker 1: Q is TBD. He was asked about McKay TBD, anything

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Speaker 1: else that really stuck out to you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, when you talk about McKay,

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Speaker 3: you know, we want Khalil back, we want our way back,

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Speaker 3: we want to keep all our guys not talking about McKay. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I think you can kind of read into that.

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Speaker 3: You can look at what that number is and getting

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Speaker 3: that nine million bucks back, and obviously I think that

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Speaker 3: that certainly lines up. So when you're talking about, you

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Speaker 3: know what, Tol Khalil, we're here if you want to come,

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Speaker 3: you know, and you can just read into those things.

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Speaker 3: They're never going to say, yeah, we're moving on from

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Speaker 3: a guy, but I think it's pretty apparent that that's

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Speaker 3: probably what's going to happen. And I kind of bring

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Speaker 3: it up not to just pile on mackay Beckton, but

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Speaker 3: to point out, as I'm looking at their free agent

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Speaker 3: list right here, Trey Pipkins, Zion Johnson, Trevor Penning, I

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Speaker 3: talked about my thing. Wanted to shut down to me,

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Speaker 3: what else did we have? We talked about Bobby Hart,

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Speaker 3: like the amount of players that are free agents on

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Speaker 3: that offensive line. Boseman retires, So you've got Zion McKay

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Speaker 3: is going to be released, and you've got Trevor Penny

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Speaker 3: Trey Pipkins, Bobby Hart, like Jamari saw the whole new operation.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, they're as important as that group is. Like,

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Speaker 3: it's not just signing a center, it's you might have

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Speaker 3: three new starters. You're definitely gonna have two because your

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Speaker 3: Probably gonna need a new swing tackle, would be my guess.

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Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of work to be done at

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Speaker 1: Good at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we talked to Chad Alexander. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: next week. But the one thing that he that he

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Speaker 3: told us just the clarity that Butch Berry and Mike

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Speaker 1: It's it just seems like Zion is the one guy

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Speaker 1: and that guard market has exploded. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to go back to Baltimore. Same thing was Ion.

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Speaker 3: back to what you mentioned about Joe at the lectern,

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Speaker 3: like he said, yeah, look, we've got a number for

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Speaker 3: every player. Is that a hard ceiling? No, but there's

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Speaker 3: a ceiling, and I think that you know, the Chargers

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have you back, and then you could

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Speaker 3: be looking for three new starters. And man, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no doubt Mike McDaniel and Butch Berry have

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Speaker 1: given their thoughts on Zion. Yeah, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: that will kind of dictate the direction that they go

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Speaker 1: with him. I just I look across the line, though, Man,

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Speaker 3: And look those guys that they're two, they're they're it's

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Speaker 3: the best tackle tenement football. It's going to fix a

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Speaker 3: lot of things. But I do think like the interesting

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Speaker 3: affect him? You know, like if you were to drop

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Speaker 3: the draft at guard. Drop them in there, because they're

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Speaker 3: like to me, the center position is so critical because

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Speaker 3: I think it can be kind of that rising tide

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Bradley retired. Bradley's one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest dudes you're ever going to be and eight years

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Speaker 1: in the NFL's a long time. He's He's made an

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Speaker 1: impact at every stole from Baltimore to Carolina to Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles to what he's done in the community. It did

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Speaker 1: not go well for the interior offensive line as a

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Speaker 1: but it gives Joe a company an opportunity to address

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Speaker 1: maybe contract extensions for Tully, for Derwin, bringing back a

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Speaker 1: DAFE as a priority. So there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: you can do, but you also have to to consider, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's out there on the free agent market for center

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Speaker 3: Right and and that's the nice thing about free agency

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Speaker 3: as it comes before the draft. So now you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: We can wait till the fifth round to build some depth.

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Speaker 3: Of that point, we got our maybe maybe it isn't signed.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Zion gets a twenty two million dollars a year deal,

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Speaker 3: So that's like to me, I know the Chargers and

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Speaker 3: Is it good enough for you?

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Speaker 3: I would be very surprised if if the team did

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Speaker 3: to make sure that has got to be settled.

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Speaker 1: Nor do they need to do a big, flashy free

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Speaker 1: agent acquisition unless it's Tyler Linderbaum. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: one guy that you kind of put your neck out

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Speaker 1: for a little bit in terms of record setting money

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Speaker 1: because you know he's gonna get it elsewhere. You know

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Speaker 1: below what Linderbaum's capable.

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Speaker 3: I just I think the problem is you're kind of

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Speaker 3: probably overpay for all of them, right, just because whoever

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Speaker 3: feels like we hear his name everywhere we turn in

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Speaker 3: this setting. So whoever doesn't get to get him is

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Speaker 3: gonna pivot pardon the pun, to Connor McGovern. And now

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Speaker 3: McGovern's gonna get paid. And whoever doesn't get a Kim

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Speaker 3: is going to pivot as I'm for whatever reason, they've

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Speaker 3: the center market. And now if like they don't bring

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Speaker 3: back Zion, you're talking about two guards, you know, And

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Speaker 3: as I go into the guard list, I mentioned Siamalo,

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Speaker 3: David Edwards, Elijah Vera Tucker, Like think about That's an

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Speaker 1: Nase, Amarion, Rashaan, Joe. The fact that all those guys

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Speaker 1: day one of the combine. General manager Joe Ortiz joins

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Speaker 1: us and Joe already been an active offseason for you guys.

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Speaker 4: The state of the franchise right now, how do you

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Speaker 3: Let's just start there then, you know, you talked about

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Speaker 4: You know, I think just you know, our our offensive

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Speaker 3: you want depth, but at the same time, I kind

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00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 3: of also want opportunities. So when you're trying to balance

433
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: that out, how do you approach it?

434
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 4: That is the balance and that's those are the discussions

435
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 4: you have immediately after the season, during the season, you know,

436
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 4: in free agency, after the you know, going into the draft,

437
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: after the draft, like you know, it's never a bad

438
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 4: thing to have too many good players at any given position.

439
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 2: It's really balancing the roster. You don't want to.

440
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 4: You know, have be really strong here and ignore the

441
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 4: other spot. You know, you've got to balance it out.

442
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 4: But any chance we get to add another quality player

443
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 4: that we feel can help us, when we'll do it.

444
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,919
Speaker 4: But you also know that said player may not have

445
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: as big of an impact because we got a bunch

446
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 4: of good young players that are just you saw it

447
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 4: with Trey, you know, he got more and more opportunity

448
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 4: and Dre the touchdown catch against Denver, I think not Denver,

449
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 4: I forget who it was against, but.

450
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 2: Before I can't City can't say yeah, and so like

451
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: you know, or third down catch whatever it was.

452
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 4: But he you know, there's the ability is there in

453
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: these young guys and uh, what.

454
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Speaker 3: Did Parcels call him? Performance or opportunity inhibitors or he

455
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 3: was talking about Oh yeah, like yeah, I guess that's

456
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 3: what I'm getting at. Yeah, do you when you have

457
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: young players that you feel like they're ready to go? Yeah, Like,

458
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: is there is there anything that goes into that?

459
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, you just hey, the opportunity is there. This

460
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: is you. We're going to rely on them for a

461
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: greater role this year, you know.

462
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 4: And uh, both those guys, I think I think they've

463
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 4: earned it. And certainly Trey, he looked the way he

464
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: blocked first and foremost right or Hey, this is your

465
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,479
Speaker 4: role early on. You're going to be our blocker. And

466
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 4: he sprung some serious runs and it's all okay, let's

467
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 4: give him a little sugar, you know, and uh, third

468
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: down catch, bam, done. I mean he caught everything thrown

469
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 4: to him. I think he may have had one drop

470
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 4: and uh on the year, but just you know, just

471
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 4: stepped up every time his name was called, number was called,

472
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 4: whether as a receiver or helping the run game out.

473
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Joe, let's go back to the offensive light. You mentioned

474
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the season that that Rashaun and

475
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: Joe we're trending well and should be ready to rock

476
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: the interior obviously with with Bridley retiring, there's some uncertainty there.

477
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: Your thoughts as a whole on both the draft class

478
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: at center and guard and really free agency and how

479
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: you guys may try to attack that.

480
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think there's an opportunity to attack

481
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 4: it in both in both areas. You know, Uh, the

482
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 4: draft has a lot of players in on the interior

483
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 4: you feel good about, and then there's some tackles that

484
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 4: are in college that we feel like can kick inside.

485
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: So I feel like there's good depth in the draft

486
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 4: and certainly the free agent market. You know, we're gonna

487
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 4: we're gonna explore and uh see what we can do.

488
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: Just in terms of uh, in inside free agents, your

489
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: your current free agents. Don't know what the right word

490
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: would be. Is that something that starts immediately because obviously

491
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: did the deal with Tier so we know you can

492
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: get that done early. Is that stuff you and I

493
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: guess I'll focus it on one player, like with with

494
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 3: the situation with Khalil, Yeah, like how soon and how

495
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: much do you want to give him a little bit

496
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: of room? But at the same time knowing sort of

497
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: the way that decision works out, like that is that timeline?

498
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 4: Wait, Yeah, there's no set timeline. It's one of those

499
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 4: things where like, hey, we want you back, right, you know,

500
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 4: I want to be back. You know, Okay, let's see

501
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: if we can come to you know, hey, do you

502
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 4: want to do you want to come to agreement? Now?

503
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 4: Do you want to see what the market is? You know,

504
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: different players approach it differently, you know. I think tier

505
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 4: speaking of Tierre, you.

506
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: Know, he wanted to be back. We wanted him back.

507
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: All right, let's knock this out, you know.

508
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: And you know he found that we found a number

509
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: that he felt really good about, and uh, we felt

510
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: good about and so we get it done. And but

511
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: other guys are a little bit more patient, and uh,

512
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: you know, I tell them all like, hey, listen, we

513
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 4: want you back. If you want to see what your

514
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 4: value is, I understand. You know, you're not hurting my feelings.

515
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 4: You know, that's your that's your right. Is a free agent.

516
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 4: You've earned that opportunity. So I never take offense to it.

517
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: You know.

518
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: I think it's we we want them, you know, and uh,

519
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: but we also understand that they've they've been given an

520
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 4: opportunity to find out what they're worth is and uh,

521
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: go find out and if we can make it work,

522
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: let's let's get you back.

523
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, Joe, capspace is so fluid currently. I think

524
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: that the Chargers have the second most in the NFL.

525
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: And when you have guys you want to take take

526
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: care of internally, maybe get ahead of certain contracts, uh,

527
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: free agency, draft, what goes into the game plan knowing

528
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: that you have so much flexibility and when when does

529
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: that process start? You mentioned maybe coming coming back to

530
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: LA after this is when you guys really start to

531
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Speaker 1: have these discussions.

532
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we have some internal discussions from a

533
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: protan you know, from a personnel standpoint, obviously bringing on

534
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 4: new coaches, letting them get familiar with our players, watching

535
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 4: all the film.

536
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's a little delayed. Uh, we probably.

537
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: Would have been a little bit like we would have

538
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 4: had meetings, you know, conversation. We've had some conversations, but

539
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 4: we would have had a few more. But they're still

540
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 4: developing their understanding of our players on the team. So

541
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: we will really crank when we get back on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

542
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 4: come up with a game plan in terms of who

543
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 4: we want, who we want to entertain, who we want

544
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: to go after.

545
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: And but yeah, with the cap.

546
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: It's a little misleading, you know, bye by saying by

547
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: saying that whatever we have, you know, let's just call

548
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: it one hundred million, or I think it may eight.

549
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 2: Eighty one point.

550
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: OTC has, right, I think, let's up to the date.

551
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: It's eighty eight I think because because they already they

552
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: already took Bradley's retirement eighty eight point one right now, all.

553
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: Right, so there's also you know, it's eighty eight point one.

554
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: But we'll always try to be a cash to cap team,

555
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: you know, so you're not mortgaging the future. So it's

556
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: it's a way to instilled discipline in on yourself. And

557
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: so with that said, you got to leave some room

558
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 4: for potential extensions, you know, and you have to leave

559
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: some room for the rookie class, and you have to

560
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: leave some room for there's a lot of things.

561
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: So it's really not quite as much. And I think

562
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: you saw it last year.

563
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 4: We started the season with I can't remember exact number,

564
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: but like probably fifteen maybe more million of cap space,

565
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: and then some players get hurt and it starts eating

566
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 4: up to camp. Maybe it was like eighteen million. Players

567
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 4: start getting hurt and the house that does is your

568
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 4: that player is still in the books who's injured, and

569
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 4: you're adding another minimum guy or whatever a million dollars

570
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: and it just cuts into it.

571
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: And then but it allowed for us.

572
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 4: To trade for a DAFE mid year because we had

573
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 4: plenty of cap room and people I remember I worked out,

574
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: people were like, what happened. I even I was like,

575
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: wait a minute's we're down to three million. What happened

576
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 4: to all the money? And then you traded for away?

577
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 4: You know, so it goes on you quick and uh.

578
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: You know, so you want to leave yourself some room

579
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: for that flexibility mid season, but you also, you know,

580
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: want to help sure up the team and add to it.

581
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: So we'll blend it together and uh and see if

582
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 4: we can make some good additions, but not go crazy.

583
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: We're not going to overspend and look up two years

584
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: from now, Oh my god, we're fifty million over the cap.

585
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 4: We gotta cut. We got to start doing cap casualty.

586
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: He's a guy we just paid two years ago.

587
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: You do have the benefit of a when you have

588
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: a franchise quarterback, you kind of have a cap ATM

589
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: if you want to use it. You also have to

590
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: keep an eye on where the market's going, when your

591
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: guy's gonna be up. When it comes to Justin, I

592
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: guess two questions, when have you had a chance to

593
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 3: talk to him since the end of the season and

594
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: kind of what his head space is. And two, when

595
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: do you start looking at that and saying, all right,

596
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: you already got a guys at sixty million, there's gonna

597
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: be some extensions coming that are probably gona kick that

598
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: thing up to sixty two sixty, Like, when do you

599
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: start thinking about that and being able to kind of

600
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: move that to keep that sort of space available for you.

601
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I you know with Court, you know Justin obviously

602
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: we love him. He's I think he's doing He's in

603
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: a good place right now, and uh, you know he's

604
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 4: excited about where we're heading. And you know, I think

605
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: you'll be ready to go when when he can be

606
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 4: back in the building.

607
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: You know. But yeah, you always you always look it's

608
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: a blend in as a GM. You know, you're we're

609
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: looking a little.

610
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: Bit further down the road than coaches are kind of

611
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: more locked into this year, and so you got to

612
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: balance it out and uh, you know, at some point,

613
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: you know, talk to Justin.

614
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: I think we still have him under contract. I think

615
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: he's only in.

616
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: His first year of his new you know, it was

617
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: his extression, so and I think he's got three or

618
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 4: four more years left on it, So we got a.

619
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: Little bit of time for that.

620
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, if you can extend a guy,

621
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: you know, makes sense.

622
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: To do it.

623
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 4: And uh, but we got some other guys we might

624
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: have to extend before him.

625
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: On defense, we talked about Chris O'Leary. The thing that

626
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: struck me with with Chris during his press or was

627
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: just how close he was to jesseeah right, and just

628
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: the relationship that they had even throughout his time when

629
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: he was at Western Michigan. How beneficial is it to

630
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: have a guy that was here two years ago that

631
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: wants to run the same type of system and kind

632
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: of add his new flavor to it.

633
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very It's very One, he's familiar with the players. Two,

634
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: he's familiar with our staff and so and and there's

635
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: a good chemistry with him, there was when he was here.

636
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: And and you know, we had a number of the

637
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: guys internally they interviewed for the position, and I think

638
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: they're genuinely excited that, you know, if not me that

639
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: it's Chris.

640
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: And and you see that. So the chemistry is there.

641
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: But it's exciting for us because you know, he certainly

642
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: understands the system and the scheme and he does He's

643
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: got some great ideas and things he wants to study

644
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: and to take our defense to the next level. So

645
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: really excited for them to get going on that they've

646
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: already started. But you know, see him put it, put

647
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: it together with the players, it will be fun.

648
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: You got an interesting linebacking linebacker room. Just we saw

649
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: dayon felt like he was scratching all Pro after you know,

650
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: two seasons ago, came on strong at the back end

651
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: of last year. Maybe we need to get him sick

652
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: for every game that was his best game. But you've

653
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: got Junior Colson that I think a lot of people

654
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: have forgot about, but we were so excited when he

655
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 3: was drafted in the third round and then what we

656
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: saw in week eighteen with Marlo Wax. Kind of take

657
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Speaker 3: us through your thoughts on that room and whether you

658
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: have to add to it. And I guess kind of

659
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: where Junior is right now and maybe how Marlow fits

660
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: in is is maybe And Denzil, I mean.

661
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: You got DPS. Yeah, Yeah, he's.

662
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: Sean like that room last year was a lot of

663
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: fun to watch. Yeah, and it's because of the versatility

664
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Speaker 4: with all of them. It's because of uh, the ability

665
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Speaker 4: of all of.

666
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Speaker 2: Them, you know.

667
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: And and then yeah, certainly Junior was out last year

668
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: with the shoulder, and uh, but I feel like he's

669
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: doing really well. Excited about him coming back. And uh,

670
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: you know it's you do when you get hurt and

671
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: you miss a year, you kind of get forgotten, you

672
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: know a little bit by the public.

673
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: And but we certainly haven't forgotten about him.

674
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Speaker 4: And matter of fact, when I was watching I was

675
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: watching our game against the Texans in the playoff game

676
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: two years ago, and you get reminded of Junior because

677
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: there he is stepping up, filling the hole, spilling the

678
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: guard and making the tackle. It's like, oh man, it

679
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: be nice to get him back fully healthy, you know.

680
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: And so uh excited about the room.

681
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: Uh certainly some free agents that we we'd like to

682
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: get back there and to kind of finished the room

683
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: back off.

684
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: But I loved what they did last year.

685
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: And uh, speaking specifically of Dyon, I mean, dealt with

686
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: you know, the illness and and uh, obviously documented and

687
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: just what he had to fight through last year.

688
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: It was a very challenging year.

689
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: That to see him go out and perform week in

690
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: week out, and and what he did and uh, it

691
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: just testament to him as a competitor and a man,

692
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: and just really just think he's still trending up. We

693
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: haven't seen the best of him yet, so we'll be

694
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: excited about next year and uh and then hopefully we

695
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: can get something done with him too.

696
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: You know, with running back, I just you chuck it

697
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: up to bad luck, right, you know. Not she goes

698
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: down to week three, Uh Abarian looked unbelievable and they

699
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: had had a couple of a couple of ankle injuries.

700
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Uh what Kimani did to kind of hold down the

701
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: ship for a long stretch of the season was awesome.

702
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: Just your your thoughts on the room right now. And

703
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, we just saw a video of uh like

704
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: five months out from from surgery runner right now and

705
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: could he be a potential return.

706
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely could be.

707
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: It was funny it was during our he was on

708
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: the sideline during our Houston game and uh, obviously he

709
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: was still out with the uh of the injury but

710
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: I said to him, I was like, man, you look good,

711
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 4: and he's like, I feel good.

712
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: It's like you feel good. And he's like really good.

713
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: And he's like, uh no, not that good, not that good. Yeah.

714
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I just wondered, you know, until uh yeah, no. Unfortunate,

715
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: you know that the way things happened. But that's football.

716
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, credit to Kamani for stepping up

717
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: did awesome force and uh just that's what he is, man,

718
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: he's he's such a true pro and uh just came

719
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: in answered the bell and really it was a key

720
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: component to us getting back to the playoffs. So I'm

721
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: really excited about what we have existing in the room.

722
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: And uh again, we have an opportunity to add to it.

723
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: If nause, if the opportunity presents itself, he may, you know,

724
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: be back. And if not, you know, we'll continue.

725
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: Your dad, I'll finish where we started. I've never been

726
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: around having you know, done this for a while. A

727
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: fan base that is so hyper focused on offensive line

728
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: it is insanity.

729
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: So I mean, this is the same fan base that

730
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: was upset when we took an offensive line and instead

731
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: of yeah, exactly.

732
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: So the Pro Bowl.

733
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Speaker 3: So just in terms of kind of like what what's

734
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: happened the last couple of seasons and sort of what's

735
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: out there. I know Chris sort of addressed it, but

736
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: just how comfortable are you with with what might be

737
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: available and kind of what Mike McDaniels bringing in and

738
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Speaker 3: how this thing could look at the start of the season.

739
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously, you know, we need to add

740
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: to the offensive line and we're just frankly thin in

741
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 4: terms of numbers there right now.

742
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Speaker 2: So that's that is the plan, That is the goal.

743
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: Comfortable with what's out there, you know, on both like

744
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: we talked about the draft and free agency. But listen,

745
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: I I believe in the offensive line, and uh, you know,

746
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: I think I think our offensive line got deeper and

747
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: better in year two, and then it got decimated by injuries.

748
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: And that's that's again.

749
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Speaker 4: You know, you lose your two tackles and then oh,

750
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: by the way, you lose your two stud running backs.

751
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: That that that affects offensive line play, you know, and

752
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: you know the rest of the guys, you know, and

753
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: so having the two tackles back is going to be

754
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: awesome for us. You know, having Omar and back full

755
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: speed healthy Kamani and then if we can add somebody

756
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: else in with them, you know, and we got some new,

757
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 4: good young guys that are already there that people may

758
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: not you know, you look at what Jpat did you

759
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: I mean, you know last year stepped up for so

760
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: but yeah, we're gonna.

761
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: We're gonna focus. It'll be, it'll be.

762
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: It won't be the primary focus or the only focus,

763
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: but certainly we're not going to ignore the offensive line.

764
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: And uh, I think we added some guys last year,

765
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: you know, mackay and and Andre James. We you know,

766
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: we kind of build up the depth, and that's you

767
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: keep growing it.

768
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: You keep growing that year and you're out.

769
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm excited about what Branson Taylor did

770
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: last year against Denver. He went up against an All

771
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: Pro guy, and yeah, he got him a couple of times,

772
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: but he also moved them off the ball and had

773
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: a good battle with him and they held up well

774
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: for rookie off the practice squad, you know who if

775
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: you saw what he did and how he developed over

776
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: the course of the year. So there's a lot of

777
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 4: potential where he's going to go. So we're going to

778
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: keep adding to it and see what we can come

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Speaker 4: up with.

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Speaker 1: Great Georgie's joined us first guest on Charges weekly here

781
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Speaker 1: in Eddie Joe. Appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analysts, but Chargers radio analysts number

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Speaker 1: one for us.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, absolutely, I mean I was just assuming he

798
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: was gonna do all other thirty one teams and we

799
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: were gonna be sitting here like, yeah, I guess we

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Speaker 3: don't get DJ because he's ours.

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Speaker 5: We just gotta you know what I want.

802
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: You know what I gotta say, though, is that I

803
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 6: look around at some of the equipment that everybody's using,

804
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 6: and we have the Darius Davis of video equipment here,

805
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 6: like we you know, there are some big old monster

806
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 6: cameras and I I had that camera in high.

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Speaker 5: School and yet it still gets the job as.

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Speaker 1: A run the lead it Hey.

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Speaker 3: and DJ why don't we just start twenty thousand foot

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Speaker 3: in few six round center six give me let's go,

813
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: give me a six round center. No, but seriously, the

814
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: strengths in this draft class and how it may relate

815
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: to the Chargers.

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00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 6: I think Jake Slaughter probably goes in the fifth, but

817
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 6: if you could get it on the sixth, love it,

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00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 6: you would love it. Look the strengths of this draft

819
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 6: class to me. You start with edge rush. You know,

820
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: it is the absolute strength. And there's guys all the

821
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 6: way up there at the top and the top ten

822
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 6: where you'll see three of them go. And then there's

823
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 6: you know, middle late first round guys and the and

824
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 6: the really you can find clumps of players to the

825
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 6: first four rounds that you can get excited about. And

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Speaker 6: I think it's it's a good thing if you look

827
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 6: at where the league is at. Because last year we

828
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Speaker 6: have the Eagles win the Super Bowl, didn't have a

829
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 6: single player with ten sacks. They had waves of guys.

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00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: This year's Seattle, nobody had ten sacks, waves of guys.

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00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 6: So continue to fill up that room. And you know,

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 6: Artie's got some work to do with the free agents,

833
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 6: you know, along the front this year and see if

834
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: they can maybe get a long term deal done with Tuley.

835
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 6: But man, they got a chance to add to that

836
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 6: room this year with some young guys as well.

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00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 3: If there is depth, and I guess just overall DJ

838
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: depth at positions, maybe that are of need to the

839
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: Chargers value of sticking at twenty too with that high

840
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: like you said, that higher end talent versus how is

841
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: the depth if you want to maybe pick up with

842
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: only it looks like they're gonna have six picks now

843
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: with the compensatory, But if you want to trade back,

844
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: how is that depth versus twenty two versus maybe picking

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00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: up another day two pick.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've known Joe for a long time, and I

847
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 6: Joe likes to drive the car and reverse a lot

848
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 6: more than he likes to hit the gas, So I

849
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 6: think he would love to be able to slide back.

850
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 6: And if you look at the needs right now, and

851
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 6: this all can change once we get through free agency.

852
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 6: But as we're having this conversation, you know, I was

853
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 6: asked today, like the Chargers would give me their three

854
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 6: needs ago, I'd probably go interior offensive line, and then

855
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: I'd probably go interior offensive line, and then finally i'd.

856
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: Probably go interior offensive line.

857
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 6: So that's not They're gonna miss out on Yawana, who

858
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 6: I think is the best offensive lineman in the draft

859
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 6: from Penn State.

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00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 5: He is a stud.

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00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: If somehow he was there, bam, make the pick, plug

862
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 6: and play, you got a Pro Bowl guard. But I

863
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 6: don't anticipate he will be there. And then you get

864
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 6: to kind of a sweet spot of interior offensive lineman

865
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 6: really kind of more towards back of two into the

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Speaker 6: third round. I think that's where the value really matches,

867
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 6: where you're getting good players who can be starters that

868
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: aren't gonna, you know, aren't gonna demand high picks, So

869
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 6: I would love to see the charge that they could

870
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 6: do it, be able to kind of move around a

871
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 6: little bit in this draft and really start collecting more picks.

872
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 3: You talk about center, Linderbaum's the bell of the ball,

873
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: and you know, I know that he could very well

874
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: stay in Baltimore.

875
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: Then you have McGovern and then outside of that, I

876
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: mean you're kind of looking at this draft class. Are

877
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: there guys that you think could be Day one starters

878
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: at center?

879
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a few. Hecked from Kansas State's

880
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 6: is my favorite. He is going to be a plug

881
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 6: and play center. He's bigger. There's some other guys I

882
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: know that you'll kind of if you see some lists

883
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 6: that are floating around, you'll see other names up there.

884
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 5: But he's a bigger guy and can do it.

885
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 6: So he would be the one that if I was gonna,

886
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 6: you know, put a bullseye on one guy who would

887
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 6: make the most sense, that can do a little bit

888
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 6: of everything but also has enough size to be able

889
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 6: to anchor down in there, that would be the one

890
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 6: I'd be most fired up about.

891
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: What about every time I see Iowa offensive alignment, I

892
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: get excited? What about Logan Jones. I know he's not

893
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: rated as high, but it looked like he had a

894
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: solid season. And speaking of Linderbaum, you know, is he

895
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: the next great Iowa center? What's going on with him?

896
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 6: I think he's I don't think he has the same pedigree,

897
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 6: you know, coming out as Linderbaum. But I think you're

898
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 6: he's more along the lines of that third fourth round.

899
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 6: But someone who's all day tough is going to come

900
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 6: in and compete and be ready to be ready to

901
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 6: roll in terms of trying to force his way onto

902
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 6: the field. But Lenderbaum, I mean that's a different he's

903
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 6: he's a different animal. I'm I'm fascinated to see what

904
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 6: his market is because people have put a kind of

905
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 6: a cap on. You don't want to really go over

906
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 6: this number. I think that people are gonna blow past

907
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 6: that number.

908
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: Everybody wants everybody's got cap space.

909
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you go around talk to all these

910
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 6: different teams like, well we're excited we got caps say yeah,

911
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 6: well some of the previous five thams that I just.

912
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 3: Thought, line, yeah, is it better to do you think

913
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: it makes more sense for this team free agent center?

914
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: If it's not, If it's not Linderbaum, if it's you know,

915
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: if it's even if it's Fortner, or if it's Maze,

916
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: or if it's one of the versus kind of what

917
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 3: might be available to them in the draft.

918
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 6: What do you think is the better, like to have

919
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 6: one in the boat if you could, you know, if

920
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 6: you could get one in the boat and free agency,

921
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 6: and then I think that just frees you up, you know,

922
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 6: to be able to go into guards. It's just gonna

923
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 6: be a lot easier to find guards centers.

924
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 5: There's some good.

925
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 6: Ones that I like, And I was kind of joking

926
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: about Slaughter, but I think he's got actually a chance

927
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 6: to be a good player. But to me, the veteran guy,

928
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: you got the veteran quarterback having that kind of veteran voice,

929
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 6: and especially if you could get Lenderbomb for what twenty

930
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 6: six years old? Yeah, so you get the best of

931
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 6: both worlds. I'd be fine with that. Yeah, yeah, I'd

932
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: be fine with that. I think he's a good player.

933
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 6: So Fortner was the other one that Fortner Carolina. Yeah, No,

934
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 6: I would love to have one of those guys already

935
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 6: already in the boat.

936
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: Let's go back to edge real quick, because I remember

937
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: the stretch where Khalil was hurt. It was just toolly.

938
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: It was before Dafe, they had a lot of issues

939
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: kind of sit in the edge. If a Dafe and Khalil,

940
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: let's say, aren't with the team, Oh no, that would

941
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: not be good. Yeah, but is there a compliment to

942
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: Tully that you think could maybe maybe in year two.

943
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Let's say a Dafi does come back, but maybe in

944
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: year two it is a guy that it fits on

945
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: the opposite side of Tuley.

946
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

947
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 6: I look at the guys who kind of play with

948
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 6: the little edge to them and some physicality to me,

949
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: and I'm really looking at the Khalil part of it.

950
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 6: I think the oh Way was awesome, you know, and

951
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: I loved hav him back. He's young, and he's dynamic,

952
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 6: He's going to get more money, all those things. But

953
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: if you're saying the structure this defense, it was having

954
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 6: guys who are real firm and strong on the edge,

955
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 6: and that was awesome when you had Mac and Tuley

956
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 6: out there together and Oway comes in as the fastball

957
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 6: to compliment those guys. I look at a guy like

958
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 6: our Mason Thomas from Oklahoma, who is in that kind

959
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 6: of borderline, you know, first round, second round, again, there's

960
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 6: so many players for the Chargers where it's like, if

961
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 6: they're kind of like thirty four, let let's get figure

962
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 6: out a way to get from where they are right now,

963
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 6: get to thirty four. That's where the value and the

964
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 6: need kind of marry together for what they're looking for.

965
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: How big of a freak is Caleb Banks.

966
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 5: He's a freak, but he's a frustrating freak. Mem So

967
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 5: you've got six six.

968
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: Three thirty thirty five inch arms and you can see

969
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 6: splash plays of dominance and it's that's a rare thing.

970
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 6: And then he just goes along stretches where he just

971
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 6: kind of blends in, disappears plays.

972
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: High you know.

973
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 5: So he's a tough one to figure out.

974
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 6: I can go through and we could pull up names

975
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 6: of second round defensive tackles with that same frame and

976
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 6: and you'll find a you'll find a Chris Jones in

977
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 6: there and go thumbs up. And you'll find two other

978
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: guys that didn't hit, and you'll go, you know, Malik McDowell,

979
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 6: and you'll go thumbs down.

980
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: Like it is.

981
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 6: He is the definition of a boom Bus player. There's

982
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 6: no world I imagine that he is a middle of

983
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 6: the road average kid. He is gonna be awesome or

984
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 6: he's gonna he's gonna bomb.

985
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 3: Who was our guy last year? Didn't we have a

986
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: defensive tackle last year? That was in the same conversation,

987
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: It's like an was it Ole miss? I can't remember? Oh,

988
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: the drafted by Arizona?

989
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: Right? Is that who? Yeah?

990
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? Walter Nolan, Walter Nolan?

991
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

992
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: Was that a boomer? Was that a bus?

993
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: That's TBD? It was not a boom. He was not,

994
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 5: but it was definitely not a boom yet. I'm not

995
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: I'm not.

996
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: Putting him in the bus category just yet, but that

997
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 6: is a hit there. There's some guys and that's the

998
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 6: position of all positions. It's hero or zero man.

999
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: We just talked to Joe about just the Mike McDaniel's

1000
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: scheme versus evaluation and you know, you mentioned a want

1001
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: a outside of of him at the guard position. What

1002
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: is the kind of prototype, prototypical guard that fits a

1003
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel system that you think may maybe there early rounds.

1004
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I I think it's you don't want

1005
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: to get too caught up into Okay, it's just like

1006
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 6: outside zone and it's just you know, you want guys

1007
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 6: who can really really move, because we've saw, you know,

1008
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 6: from the same tree, same family, maybe the godfather of

1009
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 6: it underneath Shanahan then McVeigh. McVeigh decided he's gonna go big,

1010
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 6: and he got bigger guards and they're running duo and

1011
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 6: power to complement some of the stuff they're doing. I

1012
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 6: don't envision. I haven't got a chance to spend time

1013
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 6: with him yet, as you guys have, but I don't

1014
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 6: get a chance. An idea in my head that he

1015
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 6: wants to be pigeonholed and saying we can only do

1016
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 6: this one concept run wise, he wants to be varied

1017
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 6: and do a lot of different things. So you know,

1018
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 6: to me, a guy like from Georgia tech Rutledge who's

1019
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 6: got some some size and some power, but can also move,

1020
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 6: I think it gives you a chance to expand the playbook.

1021
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 6: And that's the the exciting thing to me. If you're

1022
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: a Charger fan, is you have a quarterback with an

1023
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 6: incredible capacity to handle volume, and you've got a play

1024
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 6: caller with an incredible creativity to produce volume. So I

1025
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 6: want as many players that can do as many things

1026
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 6: as possible. And that's why even like in the mock

1027
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 6: draft exercise, I give him Kenyon Sadik and people say, well,

1028
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 6: you literally had somebody say you obviously didn't watch.

1029
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: The Chargers playlift. Ye, that's my favorite.

1030
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 6: Didn't see any of them. And I'm in here going, well,

1031
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 6: this is a this is a complimentary toy. Like you've

1032
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 6: got a creative play caller. You've got someone you could

1033
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 6: line up in the backfield, you can line them up

1034
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 6: as a wing, you could split him outside. Like, these

1035
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 6: are the types of players that Mike mc daniel's gonna

1036
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 6: love to coach because you can do so many different

1037
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 6: things with them.

1038
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: I think about Jim Harbass two coaching stops, and those

1039
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: two tight ends, Kline and Rash. Yeah, just you know,

1040
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: I it's the only college game I called this year.

1041
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: But Rash he's a big dude. Man, he's all yoked up.

1042
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: Like is that because I just kind of think about

1043
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: what Ironde is. Yeah, move try to get that guy

1044
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: that can attach to the line. In terms of those

1045
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: tight ends. I mean, I think people don't realize how

1046
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: there's only one guy in that tight end room right now.

1047
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's essentially Ronde. So what about that type of.

1048
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Time I love Klin.

1049
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 5: I'm glad you mentioned his name. He's gonna he'll run.

1050
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 6: I think he'll probably run like the four sixes out here,

1051
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 6: but his change direction stuff will be really good. I

1052
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 6: think he's gonna be a better pro than he was

1053
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: at Michigan. But he's one of the guys out here

1054
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: that's gonna be six or five plus two hundred and

1055
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 6: fifty plus, Like he can put his hand in the

1056
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 6: ground and move people. And I think there's more, you know,

1057
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 6: ahead of him in the passing game. But maybe you

1058
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 6: saw at Michigan. Obviously Lovelin was was the guy the

1059
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 6: year before, and then this year you're breaking in a

1060
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 6: freshman quarterback, so you know, the production maybe wasn't where

1061
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 6: you wanted it to be. I think he'll go in

1062
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 6: the third round, So I would love to see him

1063
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 6: in Powder Blue. I think he'd be a great fit.

1064
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 6: What about corner, Uh, you can never have enough quarters.

1065
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty deep class, especially maybe the

1066
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: end of the first early second.

1067
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do.

1068
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 6: I think there's I'm trying to think of the guys

1069
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 6: specifically who would be there at that point in time

1070
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 6: in the draft. Csay from South Carolina's probably in that

1071
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 6: mix is someone who kind of falls in there. I

1072
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 6: think I'd be even more excited about that next wave,

1073
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 6: the next wave of guys, which is again I don't

1074
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 6: like picking twenty two right in this draft.

1075
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't how many first grades do you have this year.

1076
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 6: I think I think it's probably in that fifteen to

1077
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 6: sixteen range just then so then seventeen to forty five.

1078
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a whole lot of difference.

1079
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1080
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 6: So it's a tricky place to be at, but that

1081
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 6: you can't go wrong. Just take a good player, like

1082
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a good, solid player, steady player you

1083
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: can pick there. I don't know that. Well, everybody high

1084
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: fives in the draft room. You have to, but I

1085
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 6: don't think this is like a bear hug lift you

1086
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 6: off the ground. But I think it's like, hey, this

1087
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 6: is we're gonna get a bunch of really good.

1088
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 5: Solid players.

1089
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 6: And if the high five and hug takes place, if

1090
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 6: they can trade back, if you can trade back, let's.

1091
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Hug get an extra they have five. You only have

1092
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: five picks too, so it would you'd be more maybe

1093
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: get a couple of second.

1094
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: Round There's nobody rooting harder for Carson Beck and for gosh,

1095
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 6: we've got nuss Meyer in here as well. The Hortees

1096
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 6: wants every single quarterback to come out here and absolutely

1097
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 6: light the world on fire.

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00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: That's what he's rooting. And you expect that to happen,

1099
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 3: don't you? TVD TVD Just Zion. We haven't really talked

1100
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: about the current Chargers, just knowing what that market looks like.

1101
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: And I would assume Zion's agent's just going to go,

1102
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: there's Aaron Banks, My guys better, what are you going

1103
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 3: to pay it? In nineteen point twenty five million dollars?

1104
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: What do you ultimately think that number is for Zion?

1105
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: And do you think there's like a possibility that they're

1106
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: looking for three new offensive parts?

1107
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: There's a very very real possibility.

1108
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 5: I think the number is going to be big. I do.

1109
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 6: I just think that Again, there's a lot of teams

1110
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 6: with Kaproum, there's a lot of teams with need along

1111
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 6: the interior offensive line. And I think there's recent example

1112
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 6: of the Chicago Bears, and some people might have said

1113
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 6: maybe overpaid a little bit here, like I don't know,

1114
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 6: they went from a terrible team to a playoff team

1115
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 6: like that.

1116
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, by fixing.

1117
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 6: Obviously the head coach is a big part of that,

1118
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: but they fixed the interior that offensive line, and they

1119
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 6: didn't look back. I think there's a lot of teams

1120
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 6: that are gonna be willing to maybe feel comfortable overpaying

1121
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 6: a little bit of what they think the market might be.

1122
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have a robust market.

1123
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: You have a ton of wide receivers in your top fifteen.

1124
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: I almost feel like that's advantageous for the Chargers in

1125
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: the second and third round when those runs happened, you

1126
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: already got your Trey Harris and your Lab mccaukeey.

1127
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: And how beneficial do you think that could be? And

1128
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: you do you envision a ton of wide receivers going early.

1129
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's gonna be a good number go early.

1130
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 6: But I also think that again, there's there's enough depth.

1131
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 6: There's enough guys. The college games is producing so many

1132
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 6: of these guys that you can get. You can get

1133
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 6: deep into the fourth round. You can be they can

1134
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 6: find useful pieces in the fourth, fifth round at the

1135
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 6: wide receiver spot in this draft, I mean, and just

1136
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 6: looking for guys that can fly. You can find those

1137
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: you're looking for.

1138
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 5: You know, some.

1139
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 6: Size, some physicality, they're they're out there as well. There's

1140
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 6: a lot of variety. It just goes back to high

1141
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 6: school football. I mean we were I was joking about

1142
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 6: with Charles Davis earlier, where you know, in the eighties you.

1143
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 5: Were the best athlete on the team. You're like, oh,

1144
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 5: you got to play corner because you got the toughest

1145
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: job on the field.

1146
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 6: And now he's like, oh, you got to score touchdowns,

1147
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 6: Like we got to put you at receiver.

1148
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 5: So every year it's just we have massive amount of

1149
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: white outs.

1150
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: Last one, DJ, how many spring training Padre games are

1151
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: being played during the combine? And will you have them

1152
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 3: on your phone? And they are you? Because I would assume.

1153
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you get Nick Costianos and all of

1154
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: a sudden, I mean the calculus changes.

1155
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: Man, it was my last phone call this morning.

1156
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: Ah, there you go exactly. Yeah, guys, just make sure

1157
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: the camera's shooting this way?

1158
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Is this is this in? It? Is this in the shot?

1159
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: Are we good? Are you excited for Padre baseball?

1160
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 5: Every year I do this. Money knows, he knows. I'll

1161
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: text him a month into the season.

1162
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: He's excited. He should be excited. They're good team.

1163
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they'll be good. Look, the division is what

1164
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 6: it is like that. I've I've given up hope on that.

1165
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 6: But we just got to get in the playoffs and

1166
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 6: you've got a fighting chance.

1167
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: Exactly right. I love the conversation, but I can't get

1168
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: you to walk a few er this is that is

1169
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: a weird. Look, that's weird.

1170
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: One, that's weird.

1171
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: It's an incredibly weird Yeah, yeah, the man, thank you,

1172
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: thank you by appreciate DJ. Well, buddy, what a great

1173
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: way to start our trip here to Indianapolis. Hearing from

1174
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: DJ and Joe. Yeah.

1175
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 3: Look, and we've got the you know, there's gonna be more.

1176
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: Dan Brugler is going to join us, We've got Field,

1177
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: Yate's gonna join us. We've got I mean, we've got

1178
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: a slew of people. It's all. There's so many that

1179
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: it's escaping me right now. How many different folks are

1180
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: gonna join us. So we're gonna get into the prospects

1181
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: a little bit more. DJ scratching the surface there, just

1182
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: kind of talking about, you know, like we said with

1183
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 3: the compensatory six that they're gonna get with the JK.

1184
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: Dobbins Steele, you got six picks. Feels like maybe they

1185
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 3: could end up with a couple more. I do feel like,

1186
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: but every team says this right because there's only, like

1187
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: DJ said, fourteen first round grades. They're all looking to

1188
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: trade back. It's like, can you find that player that

1189
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: lands there in that moment. We know last year was

1190
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: very close to trading back. They had a deal done

1191
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 3: and then it wasn't done with the Eagles to move back,

1192
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: and ultimately they had a first round grain on a

1193
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: Mario so they end up taking them. So's there's so

1194
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: many different ways to build this thing out. But I

1195
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: think everyone's excited just because Man eleven wins in back

1196
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: to back seasons, a defense to play lights out in

1197
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: both playoff games, and now you've got Mike McDaniel to

1198
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: help fix this offense. If you can get the players

1199
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: that are good enough to kind of meet them right

1200
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: there in the middle, there's just there's reason for serious

1201
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: excitement about where this team could be headed.

1202
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: You see the Titans and the Raiders of the teams

1203
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: that are sandwiched the Charges sandwich between terms of cap space, right,

1204
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: those are teams that are really they're just trying to

1205
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: just trying to big do right win five or six games,

1206
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: the charges back to back eleven win seasons with all

1207
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: that cap space to play with and just to kind

1208
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: of get in front of guys like Derwin and Tully.

1209
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I know that Joe's not going to address that right now,

1210
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: but yeah, you have to believe that that money is

1211
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: going to be kind of set aside to take care

1212
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: of some of the guys internally.

1213
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. I think that's where the majority of

1214
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: it is going to go. I think if it we're

1215
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: up to them, Yeah, let's get away, Let's get Khalil,

1216
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: Let's get Derwin done, Let's get two Lely done.

1217
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Zion.

1218
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: I absolutely think they want Tom back. It's a matter

1219
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: of what that number is is going to look like.

1220
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's where the majority of it's

1221
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: going to go. And then is it a big swing

1222
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: on lender bomb? Is it the next tier down or

1223
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 3: maybe two clicks down from there? And is there another guard?

1224
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: Can you get you know, one of those guards? And

1225
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: I think they're going to it's just a matter of

1226
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: what that number is, you know, whether it's Reisner or

1227
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: Teller or Zeitler, one of those guards that's going to

1228
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 3: be in that one year deal range to provide depth

1229
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: to protect from injury. You know, there's gonna be they

1230
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: just have to They need to get nine offensive linemen

1231
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: in here, so that's that's like, fortunately they got the

1232
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: money to spend. Feels like it's pretty good interior offensive

1233
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: line draft. So most concerning position I think is going

1234
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: to be square. But we'll dig into wide receivers and

1235
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: we'll dig into some running backs and figure out if

1236
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: there's a path for them to go. You know, if

1237
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 3: it is Jared Patterson, like Joe was talking about, who

1238
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: I like a lot in Kimanividel, both who are going

1239
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: to be on exclusive right for agent deals, which is

1240
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: the minimum. So you're saving a bunch of money for

1241
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: players that you feel pretty good about. Nagi too, Yeah,

1242
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: nause as well could come back. I think the Achilles

1243
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 3: that's a tricky one, but everybody loves Nase so that's

1244
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: absolutely a possibility.

1245
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 1: We will dig into really the meat of this draft

1246
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: with so many different draft analysts tomorrow and Thursday, and

1247
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: have you covered every single day here throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hayry. This has been chargers weekly. We'll see tomorrow,