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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and well Matt disappointing end of the season

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Speaker 1: last name for the Pittsburgh Steelers. But that's the way

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Speaker 1: it is for thirty one teams. Each year, there's a

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Speaker 1: disappointing at some point, there's a disappointing ending, and one

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Speaker 1: team gets to lift the Lombardi Trophy at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. Yep, some team's disappointment comes earlier than others.

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Speaker 2: And you know that that's the.

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Speaker 1: Way this You know, the angst over well, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe they lost that game, and like.

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Speaker 2: Bills were better than they the Bills were.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't the Bills were better because we went

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Speaker 1: over the rosters lest it. But they have Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: They have Josh Allen. I mean, I think they win

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Speaker 2: that game with Allen minus Watt in their building way

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Speaker 2: more than they lose it. Yeah, I mean that was

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Speaker 2: a tough environment. And then you put yourself in a

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Speaker 2: early which we know this team.

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Speaker 1: You can't give them any gimmeis, no, and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: did that. They gave them a couple of gimmeis. And

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Speaker 1: you know, even at that it's twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in early in the fourth quarter, I

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Speaker 2: took more I'm not trying to spin this for Steeler

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio or that crap. I took more positives away

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Speaker 2: from those sixty minutes of football than I did negatives.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really did. I mean considering everything, just

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Speaker 2: trying to be as analytical as possible of what you

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Speaker 2: have to overcome. There was a point where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna lose fifty to nothing.

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Speaker 1: That was I mean, that was a far different game

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Speaker 1: than the lost of Kansas City three years ago in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This was a legitimate You saw it back and made

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Speaker 2: it a real fight.

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Speaker 1: Basically from you know, midway through the second quarter on,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even game.

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Speaker 2: It was an even game.

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Speaker 1: And the only reason it wasn't even early is because

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Speaker 1: you can't give me. You gave them a ball a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fourteen nothing before you knew it, and

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Speaker 2: you lost my fourteen Yeah, Like I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I wasn't a scout at the time, but

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Speaker 2: I remember when Neil O'Donnell threw picks in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: it was ten nothing after the first quarter, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting there going, if they could play a fifth quarter,

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Speaker 2: Steelers win this one, Like this wasn't to that point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was a more fair fight and the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl between heavyweight teams. But they hung around and

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Speaker 2: they made things tough. And two things that really stood

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Speaker 2: out to me from a Bill's perspective was after a

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Speaker 2: I felt like they were holding on for dear life

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Speaker 2: in terms of just defending the middle of the field,

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Speaker 2: you know, like we're winning, thank god, because we got

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Speaker 2: problems here with replacement level dudes. Stealers were there a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and to some degree yesterday too.

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Speaker 2: And then the other thing. I just keep sticking with me,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes it's just a simple And you mentioned Alan

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, they're seventeen and oh the Bills seventeen

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Speaker 2: and oh if he doesn't turn the ball over, I mean,

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Speaker 2: in any way, shait he didn't, and he didn't. I

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Speaker 2: mean those seventeen wins, I bet the running backs had

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Speaker 2: three fumbles or kicker couldn't make anything or return guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, fumbling left and right. But if that guy

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Speaker 2: doesn't turn the ball over. And I thought he played

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Speaker 2: a very professional game and then didn't let the wild

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make some I'm gonna try some big plays,

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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be a little more mature than I

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Speaker 2: have in the past. He's hard to beat. And if

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Speaker 2: he plays that way, I don't know, Kansas City he'll

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Speaker 2: beat him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had one hundred and thirty yards of offense

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Speaker 2: There's three and ounce in there too, yeah, plenty. So

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Speaker 2: pretty much of an There was.

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Speaker 1: There were plays there, there plays to be had.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was critical the play that Joey Porter

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Speaker 1: Allen's rolling to his right, he's almost to the sideline

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like three guys on the planet that can

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Speaker 1: hurt on the play. That play that should be illegal.

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Speaker 2: Didn't used to. It used to be illegal.

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Speaker 1: You could not run down and just run in a

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Speaker 1: league in which you're you're talking about player safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if that would have been a defensive player right and

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Speaker 2: It's a penalty. Yeah. Again, that's not why they lost.

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Speaker 2: There's three hundred twenty pounds running full speed.

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Speaker 1: And you're the defense's a you got your back to him,

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Speaker 2: That's not a football. People are going to get hurt.

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Speaker 2: People are going to get doing that again, not why

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Speaker 1: Play itself contributed to the loss, because that's how good

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't believe he just that play

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he just made that throw.

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Speaker 2: That's, as you said, two or three people in the

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Speaker 1: So they they had their special Yeah, yeah, they had

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Speaker 2: What Yeah yeah. And I don't know they win that

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Speaker 2: the chances. But it was just on another show saying

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Speaker 1: They would have had to keep some of those tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they played in this game one third of their

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Speaker 2: Allen every time, as opposed to you know wherever. Do

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Speaker 2: you really think the tight ends or James Cook would

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, high Smith who got held

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Speaker 2: four thousand times would have been had easier matchups. Again,

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Speaker 2: I still think the Bills win, but these are the

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Speaker 2: that's the force multiplier that ninety is. So the Steelers score.

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Speaker 1: To make it twenty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it time and time again overs I think,

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Speaker 1: Because because he's now feeling a little more, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're pressured here. We got to we got to make

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Speaker 2: Bit, makes a huge difference. This timely player that's went

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Speaker 2: And again Golden didn't play badly. Herb those guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I went to played great again. The builds are credit.

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Speaker 2: They're the better team they were. They're impressive. I thought

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Speaker 2: not even just talking about the weather. The weather was

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that or yeah, the subject here. So

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Speaker 1: I get to the stadium yesterday and I got there

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Speaker 2: I get there early. We're spending two nights, and I

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Speaker 1: Been locked in my hotel room for thirty six consecutive

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Speaker 2: Oh really, I didn't realize that point? Oh yeah, would

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Speaker 1: I had the forethought when I arrived at the hotel

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Speaker 2: I drove to Buffalo for this. I think we should

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Speaker 2: sort of tell the story. Okay, when the game got changed,

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Speaker 2: you were almost in. I was almost in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was twenty minutes from Buffalo. I said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm almost here. I'm just gonna go to

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Speaker 1: the weather and I'm gonna go far. And yeah, it

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Speaker 1: So well, you know, after I checked in, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I got it. I'm gonna go get some food just

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Speaker 2: But did you say you didn't have a fridge either.

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Speaker 2: There was no refrigerator in the room.

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Speaker 1: get anything that was perishable. Yeah, so I bought some

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Speaker 2: Okay, stuff you can sit on the cave in a

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Speaker 2: bag of potato chips. That's what I had. So so

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Speaker 2: the first night, I'm sure you'd a die Coker too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got a case of those, but it was half

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Speaker 2: That's twelve pack.

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Speaker 1: So there's a There was a restaurant next to the hotel.

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Speaker 1: The first night, I walk over to the restaurant. It's

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Speaker 1: snowing pretty good there you walk, but yeah, it opened

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Speaker 1: at that point. The governor declared that there was a

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Speaker 1: note you weren't allowed to drive anywhere. The city shutting

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I didn't live on chips and protein bars.

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Speaker 1: And they said and then when they were announced, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It's all sugary. I don't want that.

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Speaker 2: The hotel I'm staying at doesn't have anywhere to go

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Speaker 1: There's there's nothing in the lobby that there's no vending machines, nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm like, all right, McDonald's open nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see myself and that it's so cold

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Speaker 1: It was it was above my knees, it was, it

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Speaker 2: So I heard. I didn't if we were to go down

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nobody around. Nobody else is out and this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the roads are more clear. I got to get

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Speaker 2: Screw mind you.

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Speaker 2: I had to I had to kind of dig them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I get it cleaned off, I get out.

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Speaker 1: I try to go to the Walmart again. It's still

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Speaker 2: Thinking about opening, thinking about opening, but not. I don't

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Speaker 1: You know, that's the problem when you when you have

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Speaker 2: I got head whoppers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a couple of nice burgers. I ate

441
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Speaker 1: them in my car and I drove to the stadium

442
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, here that that's it. And did

443
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Speaker 1: the pregame show There was no they didn't have the

444
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Speaker 1: food out the statements.

445
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 2: Some they had more potato chips, bagels.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, did the pregame show cover the game?

447
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 2: Get done?

448
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: It's like eleven o'clock. I'm like, I'm going to try

449
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: to go home tonight because I got a text from

450
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Speaker 1: my my daughter's school that they were canceling today. That's

451
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Speaker 1: telling me the weather is probably going to be bad.

452
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Speaker 2: It was about here right right, like no one school

453
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Speaker 2: today in my house.

454
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Speaker 1: And everybody that I talked to said the roads were

455
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Speaker 1: clear all the way up through.

456
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Speaker 2: It had driven up day of the game. So you're

457
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Speaker 2: thinking about leaving the stadium at like eight or nine, No,

458
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Speaker 2: I left. I left at eleven. Oh okay, so you

459
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Speaker 2: so you wrote after the game.

460
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Speaker 1: I wrote after the game, and now I'm now I'm

461
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Speaker 1: heading I'm like, I got to stop my hotel room.

462
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Speaker 1: I had the hotel room for the that night, but

463
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't sleep on that bed again with

464
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Speaker 1: these rips.

465
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. Home sounds really good.

466
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Speaker 1: R Yeah, Home sounds good. So I start home. I

467
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Speaker 1: get through the first forty five minutes of the drive perfectly, perfectly.

468
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Speaker 2: I'm flying along. The roads are bare, there's no traffic,

469
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Speaker 2: very little traffic. House. This is midnight or so. Yeah.

470
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Speaker 1: I get to the state line in Pennsylvania New York

471
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Speaker 1: state line and there's an accident and we sit there

472
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Speaker 1: not moving for an hour and a half. I put

473
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Speaker 1: the car and park, turn it off. I turned it

474
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Speaker 1: off and just sitting there, nobody's going anywhere for an

475
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Speaker 1: hour and a half.

476
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Speaker 2: I got home at four thirty. Wow. Wow, the last weekend,

477
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Speaker 2: the last weekend. Wow, crazy wild card weekend. And then

478
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Speaker 2: the Steelers lose, and the Steelers lose. Yeah, funn There

479
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: you have it. Yeah, there you go. That was my weekend.

480
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Speaker 2: The hell of a story. I'm sure you have plenty

481
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Speaker 2: over your career that are rival with one every five

482
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Speaker 2: years that are in that neighborhood or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,

483
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean even like Steelers got stuck in Kansas City.

484
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Speaker 1: I mean there's a time, you know, you know, the

485
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Speaker 1: one game in Kansas City when they played there on

486
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day. Coming back and we get to Detroit and

487
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Speaker 1: after sitting for two hours, they can't their flight and

488
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Speaker 1: we had to drive back from Detroit. This after being

489
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Speaker 1: in a hotel in Kansas City that weekend looked like

490
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: the walking dead. Really, like, I'm walking down the middle

491
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Speaker 1: of the street in downto downtown Kansas There's.

492
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Speaker 2: No cars, nothing goes anywhere. Yeah, driving the station during COVID. Yeah.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, that's that.

494
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Speaker 2: Completely off on a tangent there, But that was my

495
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Speaker 2: weekend football there for a bed it. But I thought

496
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Speaker 2: this was definitely worth it, just to realize what people

497
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Speaker 2: went through and you weren't alone.

498
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Speaker 1: And people are arguing with me on social media that

499
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Speaker 1: that game should have been played. Then I'm telling you

500
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Speaker 1: right now, you could not see.

501
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Speaker 2: I quoted you on another show earlier today saying, Hey,

502
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Speaker 2: I was talking to Dale and he said, there's no

503
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Speaker 2: way you could play a football game when it was

504
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Speaker 2: around schedule. You couldn't get there. You couldn't get there.

505
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Speaker 2: I mean even the wind and the snow, you couldn't

506
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Speaker 2: get to the stadium, get to the stadium. Yeah, Like

507
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Speaker 2: it's impossible to play a game. Yeah, so that had

508
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Speaker 2: to be nice. I mean, last question for you that

509
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Speaker 2: the original kickoff time versus actual kickoff time, did it

510
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: change drastically better? Oh? Yeah, I mean yeah, the roads

511
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: were clear, the sun was out.

512
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yes, it was still cold, yes, and there

513
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: was still some wind, but there wasn't a driving snow

514
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Speaker 1: like where I was at in Hamburg. I think I

515
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Speaker 1: believe got forty one inches of snow. Wow, we're riting

516
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: like where the stadium was at in Orchard Park. People

517
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: were tweeting out photos of north of the city and

518
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: out by the end that didn't get hit nearly as

519
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: bad where it's where the stadium was at.

520
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Speaker 2: Okay, So Rob King I did a show with earlier.

521
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: He's from Cooperstown. He said, one thing, I'll tell you,

522
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Speaker 2: folks in that area can clear snow like it's They

523
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: did a great job, but there's only so much human

524
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Speaker 2: beings except in the stands.

525
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Speaker 1: They didn't say that, But anyway, we're gonna get to

526
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Speaker 1: a break here. Yeah, we'll do that. He is Matt Williamson.

527
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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

529
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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

530
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lollie.

531
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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

532
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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt by Now, everybody has

533
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Speaker 1: seen the video of Mike Tomlin walking out of his

534
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: press conference last night when yeah, yeah, when he was asked, well,

535
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Speaker 1: he started to be asked about his his situation, and

536
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Speaker 1: you know, I've been a reporter a long time.

537
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is you're up your alley here. I don't

538
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: know how that etiquette works, and all that I never

539
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: got around.

540
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Speaker 1: First of all, it's ten minutes after a game in

541
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Speaker 1: which the season just ended, a game in which the

542
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Speaker 1: coaching staff has just put every all their work for

543
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Speaker 1: the entire season has just come to an end. And

544
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Speaker 1: they know how many like the sixty hour and seventy

545
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Speaker 1: hour and eighty hour work weeks every single week.

546
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Speaker 2: That I can attest to. Not that I was a

547
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Speaker 2: coach or anything close to Mike Tomlin, but I've been

548
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Speaker 2: with teams when the season ends, and it's hard.

549
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Speaker 1: For example, you know I'm talking to I'm not going

550
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Speaker 1: to say which code, but I was talking to a

551
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: coach and they found out the last weekend of the

552
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: season when they were going to be playing. It ended

553
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Speaker 1: up being a Saturday game. If you remember in Baltimore,

554
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Speaker 1: after they had played, Remember they didn't know.

555
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, week eighteen, they're still in right, Okay.

556
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Speaker 1: They didn't find out on their way back until they

557
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: were on their way back from Seattle when the next game,

558
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Speaker 1: when that game was going to be played Saturday, we went.

559
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Speaker 2: A lot of time.

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, so you're flying back on a you know,

561
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Speaker 1: five hour flight and you find out that the game

562
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Speaker 1: is going to be Saturday, not Sunday.

563
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Speaker 2: Now you just lost twenty four hours. Last twenty four hours,

564
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Speaker 2: all you knew is you're going to Baltimore and week eighteen. Yeah,

565
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Speaker 2: you don't know. Start the coaching staff for that.

566
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Speaker 1: They went from the plane and from back from Seattle

567
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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, we got back. Guy, I was like,

568
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Speaker 1: there's two thirty in the morning to two o'clock. They

569
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Speaker 1: went straight to the office and started working on the

570
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Speaker 1: game play. Didn't go home for Saturdays, didn't go home,

571
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Speaker 1: straight to the office and started working on the game plan.

572
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Speaker 2: Charter and the rest goes to the office. They didn't

573
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Speaker 2: go to their car. They went in and started that

574
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Speaker 2: day's work. Yeah, okay, and then what these people do, right, I.

575
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Speaker 1: Mean, we're we're in there all day Monday, hmm, all

576
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Speaker 1: day because Monday was New Yessday. They still haven't gone home.

577
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Speaker 1: Into Tuesday, you're coming up their game plan. Then you

578
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: might get a.

579
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Speaker 2: Few hours Monday, they went home in the evening late

580
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Speaker 2: late Monday is a hard day, perfect condition.

581
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Speaker 1: And then Tuesday you finish the game planning the prep. Wednesday,

582
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Speaker 1: you start.

583
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: Practicing, you start presenting it to the players.

584
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Speaker 1: But because of the way the schedule came, Monday was

585
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Speaker 1: Tomlin's press conference, so Monday was Tuesday. So really they

586
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Speaker 1: stayed in there all day Monday, you and your apartment

587
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Speaker 1: into Tuesday. The coach that I spoke the coach that

588
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Speaker 1: I spoke to, said, you got about four hours sleep

589
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Speaker 1: from the time Saturday, from Saturday until Tuesday morning, like for.

590
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Speaker 2: Just lying out, from waking up to go fly to

591
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Speaker 2: Seattle until the next three days or what. Maybe it

592
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: dozed off on the plane. I don't I don't get

593
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm ever on those charters. I don't know if those

594
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: guys are game planning and watching tape of what just happened,

595
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: or do they actually try to sleep.

596
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Speaker 1: This coach typically watches ahead, okay, so he'll start working

597
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: on that stuff ahead of time.

598
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: Probably never broke down Seattle tape, right, Yeah, because you

599
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: got to worry about the Ravens. That's winning in type

600
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: of deal. At that point, it's almost like a playoff game,

601
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: but that's these people's lives.

602
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Speaker 1: So yes, you know there there's a lot involved with

603
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: this from the coaching standpoint, and.

604
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Speaker 2: You have to have a game plan presented to the

605
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Speaker 2: players for practice, which takes many hours when you as

606
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Speaker 2: a staff.

607
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you you start to come up with

608
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: that game plan. Okay, first meeting and Wednesday morning, you

609
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: have to have that game plan ready.

610
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: Here's what we're going to do. Guys. Sure you show

611
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: up to that meeting and Rudolph and Cam and whoever, like,

612
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: what do you mean you're not ready? Yeah, yeah, we

613
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: we have a game Yeah.

614
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Speaker 1: So that was on Tuesday, so you basically had twenty

615
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Speaker 1: four hours to get the game plan ready.

616
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: There was no time to sleep. So yes, they.

617
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Speaker 1: Take this very seriously and it's it's very emotional when

618
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Speaker 1: it ends for them.

619
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Speaker 2: Of course, they're heavily invested.

620
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Speaker 1: So well, I get that people wanted to know about

621
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's situations. A place, there's a time and a

622
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: place for that, and the time and place is not

623
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Speaker 1: immediately after the team just lost in the playoffs. To me,

624
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Speaker 1: the way that I have always handled those kind of things.

625
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Speaker 2: Thousands of Prescott probably because oh, by the way, we folks,

626
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Speaker 2: there is going to be another one coming here very soon,

627
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: right that he can go home, sleep, see his family,

628
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: and that may even think it over and it takes

629
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Speaker 2: some time to think about it, Yes, to think about

630
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: the opponent and to me playing this week or not?

631
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Speaker 2: You know, right.

632
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Speaker 1: Asking that question. It's in and early in the pre conference.

633
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Speaker 2: You don't.

634
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: You never, if you're gonna ask a question like that,

635
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: you save it until the end of the press conference,

636
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: not like the third question or the fourth.

637
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: Like, no, talk about stuff that happened. You take it.

638
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Let him talk about the game, let him decompress a

639
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: little bit, let him his head around wrapped around how

640
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: the how the game went. And then you go for

641
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, about the big picture stuff, if you're going

642
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: to go that route.

643
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: But we've gotten to this.

644
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Age now in journalism where everything is is has gotten

645
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: to be about the journalist. Look at me, I'm I'm

646
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: an influencer, and i'm you know, look, I take selfies, uh,

647
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: standing in a snow bank and I take you know,

648
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: nobody cares about that. I wasn't tweeting out a bunch

649
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: of photos. You just heard my story from the weekend.

650
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: I could have tweeted out a thousand things this weekend.

651
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: You probably could have gained a thousand news this weekend. Yeah,

652
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: it really helped me.

653
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: Who cares, you know, I'm dealing with with the with

654
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Speaker 1: what it was now. I put sent some photos out

655
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Speaker 1: to people who were telling me they couldn't Oh, there's

656
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: no way they should be playing this game, and like,

657
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, no, you're wrong.

658
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: But that was it. But we we we've turned.

659
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: Journalism now into this situation where everything's gotcha question because

660
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: you're going for the reaction because you can then put

661
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: it on social media and look at me.

662
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: I I asked this tough question. Does it make you

663
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: good at your job? It makes you an idiot? Because

664
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: here's why a good.

665
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Journalist finds the thing, finds the things out that they

666
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: have questions about. I don't want everybody having the answer to.

667
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: The remember that made you crazy and COVID. It's like

668
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: what I'm good at, I can't do anymore. You can't do.

669
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: You have to share zooms.

670
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: With Everybody has the same When I asked a question

671
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: like that in a press conference setting, I'm giving it

672
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: to everybody. It's not just the answer for me. I

673
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: could say I asked this question, good for you, but

674
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: all the answer everybody else has the same answer and

675
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: the same video and everything.

676
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: That you just exact same thing, the same exact.

677
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Thing, and nobody gives They don't give a damn about

678
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: who asked the question. It's all about the reaction. Yes, yeah, right,

679
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: so you know the and and to me, what you're

680
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: trying to what you're trying to.

681
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Accomplish is a journalist.

682
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can ask tough questions and the subject isn't

683
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: always going to like what you're asking about.

684
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Like I think McCarthy and Solo were asked the same thing. Yeah,

685
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: there's a couple others around the league that are in

686
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: this same contractual situation that are going to be asked

687
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: the saying right, you know, but there's a time to play.

688
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: There's a time and a place.

689
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: And you also, you build up a cachet with the

690
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: subject by not antagonizing them constantly. When you do that,

691
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you get that kind of reaction. There were times,

692
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, early in my career I was guilty of

693
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: the same thing where I you know, I asked antagonistic

694
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: questions to Bill Kauer and you know, after a while

695
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: you start to see, you know, if I asked him

696
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: a question, it was I was going to get a

697
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: short answer.

698
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: He would treat you different than the guy said next

699
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: to you in the.

700
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Because you have to, you have to earn that respect

701
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: in that regard. And so there's there's a time and

702
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: a place where anyways, So the bottom line is Mike

703
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Tomlin's coming back.

704
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was all just announced him.

705
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: It was all all that stuff, all that you know,

706
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: antagonizing the head coach.

707
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: And I get it.

708
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask him tough questions. You're gonna ask him

709
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: things that he doesn't want to answer.

710
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: That question is going to be presented to him at

711
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: some point, at some point.

712
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Yes, to me, his end of season press conference would

713
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: have been a far better place to do. It would

714
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: have been far more respectful.

715
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Of him as a human being.

716
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: The human being is I can understand why Mike Tomlin

717
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: would get upset with that question in that moment.

718
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: Just been eliminated right on the road.

719
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: The emotion of everything that you just went through with

720
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: that season is still amazingly raw. And you're gonna make

721
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: this about him.

722
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: And I can't speak for him, but I can speak

723
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: for coaches as a whole, and especially ones that have

724
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: been super successful and frankly don't need the money anymore.

725
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: It's definite. If you're the O line coach at Akron

726
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, if I don't do this while my kids

727
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: don't eat, you know that you've had a long season.

728
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: I want a week to think about it, you know,

729
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: like I'm going to go home, see my family, decompress,

730
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: eat a steak, whatever, and I'm going to think it

731
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: over because it takes a lot out of me. I

732
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: mean a lot of guys do that. I'm sure Belichick

733
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: did it every year. I'm sure Saban did it every year.

734
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Whether you tell the press that or not. And that's

735
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: your right. You know, you don't have to prepare for

736
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: the Ravens next week. This.

737
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft didn't fire Belichick immediately after the game when

738
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots lost, Right, they took a few days to

739
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: decompress and think about it. You know this, And I

740
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: just think if you're Mike Tomlin, you feel like it's

741
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: a disrespectful question in that setting.

742
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: I could see that. I mean, if anyone, no one

743
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: ever puts some themselves in other people's shoes in the

744
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: society period, but let alone a celebrity. He's the one

745
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: at the podium. What did he go through today? And

746
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: does he really want to maybe going down that road?

747
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: He want to talk about Joey porter's injury, or how

748
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: we couldn't off the run, or.

749
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: How that's where his mind is at right at that moment.

750
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: My team just got eliminated. Why you know that type

751
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: of thing. I mean, frankly, you don't ask him who's

752
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback next year? Right, you don't know that.

753
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of the same situation, right, like,

754
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, are are you going to fire the whole staff?

755
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: Are you gonna you know, he would tell you.

756
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later in the week. Yeah, yeah,

757
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: So for that, you know, people read too much into

758
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: those kind of things in terms of reactions and whatever.

759
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of this. I didn't know un till just

760
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: now that it was like one of the first questions

761
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: in the press conference. I saw, like every other goof

762
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: on social media, a eight second clip. I heard the

763
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: question and I saw him walk away. It's like the

764
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: third to third or fourth question in this thing. All

765
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: these things have context to them. Yeah, you know, I

766
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: knew a media and I'm like, oh, that wasn't the

767
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: brightest move to try to get the answer out of them.

768
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: But I didn't know it was early in the press

769
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: conference either. You know, it would have been a little different.

770
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: If it was the last question end of the day,

771
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: he still could have been like I'm not talking about now.

772
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: And typically, like like Burt Louton, who does a great

773
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: job with the Steelers and media coordination, you'll get you know,

774
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: if you get five or six questions in there or

775
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: something like that, or however whatever time limited.

776
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: You know he's going to sit there all day. No,

777
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: he's don't get.

778
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: He'll get any more questions. Then you ask a question.

779
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: If you're going to ask that question, ask it.

780
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: Then at least you get like a two minute warning

781
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: to the situation.

782
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, we're almost done with this thing anymore, you know. Okay,

783
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I get this one.

784
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: We've got a plane to catch or whatever. Yeah right,

785
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: we got things to do. Yeah, so you know, I

786
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: get it. You know.

787
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: So we went with Tomlin this season from Okay, they're

788
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: doing pretty pretty good job this year holding things together.

789
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: They're six and three, seven three seven four whatever.

790
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 2: I'd even go back to, Wow, they're tearing through the preseason.

791
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Everyone loving these guys, and they got it all figured out,

792
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: you know.

793
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: Right then they lose three games in a row.

794
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: It's just a done, is Tomlin?

795
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: Then they win the next three three games, nobody expected

796
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: them to win.

797
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Again. We talked about this last week that when the schedule.

798
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: Came out, well you better have your your hey better

799
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: be in the barn before those final three games because

800
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: you probably won't win any of those.

801
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: They went all three of them and stretch. No one's

802
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: talking playoffs. Yeah, oh it was. You know, they might

803
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: lose the rest of the game, might finish seven and ten.

804
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: They should tank, they should they should lose out as

805
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: opposed to man, they lost another one in the first round.

806
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: That coach thinks, you know that was a month ago.

807
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, well, they're never get in the playoffs anyways. Yeah,

808
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: well they were in the playoffs.

809
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: They get in the playoffs. And and you know again,

810
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: I thought Tom, you know, Tomlin said after the game

811
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: when that when we when we got into twenty four

812
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: to seventeen, there was a lot of excitement on the sideline.

813
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: You could see it like the momentum had changed. And

814
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: then Alan took it back. But they had a couple

815
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: of penalties on that drive that didn't help.

816
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 2: But no, but they could have rolled over and died.

817
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they they stayed in it, and they fought

818
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: and they you know, so that was what was on

819
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: his mind at that point.

820
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: Like as a national analyst looking at the Wildcard weekend,

821
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: there weren't very many competitive games and it didn't live

822
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: up to the billing. But this was not the blowout

823
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: that Houston clean. This was the biggest This was the

824
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: biggest point spread of.

825
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: The weekend, and it was one of the more competitive games.

826
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was second or third best game when it

827
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: was all said and done. You know, right, there's something

828
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: you said for that.

829
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: So I just you know, I get I get it,

830
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: and I understand that the journalism is not the journalism

831
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: field that I got into.

832
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Of course, social media has changed.

833
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: All that, and yeah, obviously, and the world changes, but

834
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: you have to you have to be you have to know,

835
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: you have to understand, you have to be able to

836
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: read the room.

837
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: People are still people. Yeah, and you have to you

838
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: have to understand. I I can't get over.

839
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: Asking questions like people, why don't you ever ask questions

840
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: that you know to tomin press conference or why don't

841
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: you like because I don't want to give the answer

842
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: to everybody else.

843
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: The stuff I really want to know, I'll find out

844
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: on that. I'll find out some other way.

845
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there are ways to do so without

846
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: giving it to everybody.

847
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: I bet that's all start too. I mean, like, but

848
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: we go way back, like Babe Ruth on the on

849
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: the train withm you sit there and eat a bunch

850
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: of hot dogs and beers with him when you found.

851
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Out them he found that at that's yeah right, So yeah,

852
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: that that to me. So Tomlin is coming back. He

853
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: announced it to the team today. According to Mike Garrofolo,

854
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

855
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's that's that.

856
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would expect some kind of extension in the

857
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: coming weeks.

858
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: That's the next step. And he's gonna have a press

859
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 2: conference most likely within the next forty eight hours or so, right, Yeah,

860
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: his end of season that he does every year.

861
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where he'll announce whether you know, hey

862
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: we may have some coaching changes coming up. Obviously the

863
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: coordinator position is going to be.

864
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coordinator stuff.

865
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: That's where you talk about the off season stuff, not

866
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: immediately after a game.

867
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: Saying so like when people talk like injuries then too, like.

868
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll he typically will announce at that point if

869
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna have a surgery or you know, if they

870
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: know it that.

871
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: This and Joe Blow has been fighting this and he's

872
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a cleaned up Yeah okay, yeah yeah, So

873
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: that's we're gonna get to another break. He is, and

874
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: we'll be on top of that press commerce for folks

875
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: whenever it happens.

876
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. You

877
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: are listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

878
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. Steeler fans,

879
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885
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Matt is. As bad as the

886
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: weather was up there.

887
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: This weekend, there were quite a few Steeler fans that

888
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring that up away into Buffalo, and

889
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: it was not an easy ticket to get ahold of.

890
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: It couldn't have been an easy travels either. Was quite

891
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: as rough as yours. But some of them probably have

892
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: some stories of their own of how they got to

893
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: that game from from Pittsburgh to Buffalo and home and

894
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: all the rest. Every Fiarmouth catch mooth. I mean like

895
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: there was a presence. I was impressed. Yeah, no it was.

896
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: It was another good showing by Steelers Nation in that one.

897
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: And if you can't get your stadium cleaned out, I

898
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: mean to me, that should have been a prerequisite to

899
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Speaker 1: have the game. If I'm the NFL, I tell the Bills, Hey,

900
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: we're going to keep this game in Buffalo, but you're

901
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: gonna have the snow cleaned out of that stadium.

902
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: See, the broadcast was a total opposite. They were bragging

903
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: about how much they got done in a twenty four

904
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: hour stretch. The stadium was still full of snow. Well,

905
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: yes they were, so they cleaned out. I mean they

906
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: were bragging about the field. The field was fine, Every.

907
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Seat was like every seat was it was except for

908
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: the box seats. Yeah, we're still covering. So I was

909
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: told by somebody. I don't know if this was true

910
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: or not, but they just made a general seating.

911
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: Oh they did. Like it doesn't matter if you're ced ABCD,

912
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: because you couldn't you couldn't tell what were there. Yeah,

913
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: it makes sense. I don't know about that. They had

914
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: never mention that, but that would add up.

915
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: And then, you know, then you end up with snowballs

916
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 1: being thrown the entire game.

917
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: Was there a ton of that? Because that did not

918
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: show there was quite a bit. Yeah, there was. If

919
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: you if you look back the pickings throw in the

920
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: corner of the end zone to pick it the pick ends.

921
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a snowball that came flying in as

922
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: he's trying to catch the football.

923
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there thinking what happens if that hits him

924
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: in the face or directly influences him not catching it,

925
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: which it might have, may have may have influenced the

926
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: ball hit him in the hands. But I'm watching it.

927
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: They're in the end zone right in front me.

928
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: The press box is in that end zone in that stadium,

929
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: so it's right in front of me, and I see

930
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: the snowball coming in. First of all, I thought it

931
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: was a flag because you just yeah, you just see

932
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: something flying in there. But then you see, I mean,

933
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: the snowball hit like a foot away from where he's

934
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Speaker 1: trying to catch.

935
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Speaker 2: The football is easily distracting. Yeah, it could have been

936
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: a lot worse. It could have went way through his face,

937
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: mask him in the face, you know, and you know,

938
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: if it's a bat for that matter or whatever.

939
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: There are fans throwing snowballs the entire time through the game,

940
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: and they kept handed on the board. You know, you'll

941
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, do not throw snow it's you know,

942
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: it's it's dangerous.

943
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 2: But that's by the least of their concerns in terms

944
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: of keeping that. They didn't care.

945
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: There are no there are no people, there are no

946
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: security in the in the stands, like say no, you.

947
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: Out of here.

948
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: I watched the guy in front of me in the stands,

949
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: he's he's sitting, he's the first row in front of

950
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: the press box.

951
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: Which is right the roads right there.

952
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching him the entire game making snowballs and lobbing

953
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: him down to the next level down to people it's dangerous.

954
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and.

955
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Their security guards down are looking at like if you can't.

956
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm sitting there with my six year

957
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: old son, I taken my first game and he gets

958
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: drilled with the thing of ice in the back of

959
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: the head by another Bills fan or not, I'm pretty

960
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: fired up.

961
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: Not only that, but just walking around in the.

962
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: Stadium there's snowball sliding around.

963
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: It was dangerous really because they didn't clear the snow

964
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: out of there.

965
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: See. I didn't thought of any of that angle except

966
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: for I don't want snowball hitting affecting the game, right yeah.

967
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, like, this is a playoff game. It's a playoff.

968
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: If someone drops a touchdown or gets hit in the

969
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: eye trying to cover someone or whatever.

970
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: We're just standing on the sidelines, somebody drills you from

971
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: the upper deck, you know, yeah.

972
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, what would be done? Probably nothing? Probably nothing,

973
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, even like would the would the refereplay the down?

974
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm just even thinking, like if that Pickens play was

975
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: noticeably worse, ten snowballs hit him in the face and

976
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: the defensive backs and he has no chance to catch football,

977
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: Just go up next down. I mean, what does the

978
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: NFL do about that? I have no clue clue either.

979
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean, my son was asking, like, I don't know,

980
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: d to me, it would have.

981
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: Been as you know, it's the same thing as when

982
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you remember back when fans in Cincinnati

983
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: were throwing bottles onto the and and you say, white

984
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: comes out and as hey, we're not in Cleveland.

985
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: You know, you got to show some class. You penalize

986
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: the home team. I say, you could do delay a game.

987
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to penalize the home team, delay

988
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: of games or you know, I don't even know what

989
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: the call would be, but there has to be some

990
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: ramification for the home team. It has to be. It

991
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: has to be. Yeah, you're in control of your fans.

992
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're not going to control your fans,

993
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: then they're going to be penalized.

994
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: But that that to me, I like even to get

995
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: it's a weird stadium in Buffalo. Yeah, we said this

996
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: going in, you know.

997
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: Like so to get to the press boxes is right

998
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: there when you walk in the wind, and to get

999
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: to the radio press box, you have to leave the

1000
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: the the print media press box, go outside, go through

1001
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: one of their little especially you know, the the club

1002
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: areas to get in there.

1003
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: So to get outside, it's not the same as.

1004
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm walking along and mind you again, I've got broken

1005
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: ribs and I'm walking on this and it's none of

1006
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: it's shoveled, and I'm like, boy, I sure hope I

1007
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: don't fall again again because I'll die walking outside, the

1008
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: walking outside, then they get to the press get from

1009
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: the press box down to the locker room. You have

1010
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. You you have to leave

1011
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: the stadium and go in and go back around. It's

1012
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: a bad setup.

1013
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: That's awful. Yeah, it's like a high school stadium. It

1014
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: sounds like it. It sounds like it. I'm sure there's

1015
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: a lot of callers.

1016
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: So if you can't, if you can't, like, I'd be

1017
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: shocked if there if there wasn't you know, a fan

1018
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: or two that didn't fall in that game.

1019
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Oh but a lot of people got hurt. Yeah, I mean,

1020
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: let alone the parking lots before. I mean, that's kind

1021
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: of self induced. But still, I mean, even just Joe Blow,

1022
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: a wholesome family wants to park their car in the

1023
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: parking lot, get to their seat, watch a game, go home.

1024
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Let alone jumping through tables or whatever is precarious. It's precarious.

1025
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, but the field of the field

1026
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: is a great security.

1027
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: They worked like crazy on the you know, that was

1028
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: good and all that. Yeah, that's what they kept bragging

1029
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: about on the on the broadcast. That's fine, they got

1030
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 2: done overnight. But the seats looked like they had over touched.

1031
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: But if you're the NFL and you can't guarantee the

1032
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: safety of your fans in a situation like a they

1033
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: don't let them in.

1034
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that could. Sorry for your luck, right, like,

1035
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: we're just not going to have fans for this one. Yeah,

1036
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: we'll make up them. They did it in COVID, you know, yeah, yeah,

1037
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: I didn't thought of that. But no, that's a weird situation.

1038
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: There can't be enough security. What and it could happen

1039
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, could happen anywhere. But what if they what

1040
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: if Buffalo loses that game the attitude in the stadium

1041
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: is nasty, or it's a bad ref call. I told that.

1042
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: I told that the Max Starks before the game. I say, hey, Max,

1043
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: you're a big target. You're down on the sidelines. If

1044
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: the Bills start losing this game, or there's a bad call, duck,

1045
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: like if.

1046
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: This goes wrong, this goes south for the home team

1047
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: and they're not in a good mood and the drinks

1048
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: are flowing, then the you know, they could have gone

1049
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: ugly ugly. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's many

1050
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: times the sports history has.

1051
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: And you know, who knows, but the Bills are only

1052
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: penalized twice in that game.

1053
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: M hm. Did that have something to do with it?

1054
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, well, I did some homework. You know, Warren

1055
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: Sharp's real big on these. That crew is very home

1056
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: team friendly. I think it's Cheffer. It was Cheffer, Yeah, yeah,

1057
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: that was his right up about it was the home

1058
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: teams consistently get the benefit of the doubt call wise

1059
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: in his crew. You know, again, I don't think that's

1060
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: why I'm not saying the holding calls on high Smith.

1061
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: I will say were.

1062
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: Typically Typically those things tend to balance out. So if

1063
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: one team went, you know, Steelers end up with six

1064
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: penalties and Buffalo has two, there's.

1065
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: A little bit of disparity there. Sure. Sure, Again, it's

1066
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: not why they lost. But I thought the call not

1067
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: against Pickens late in the game was horrendous, and they

1068
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: did not. They had a lot of liberties on mister

1069
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: high Smith. Yeah, yeah, dragging him down, but that was true. Anyways,

1070
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: we're going to get to another break.

1071
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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening

1072
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be

1073
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: back with our number two of the drive right after

1074
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Speaker 1: this noise