1 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett Now Live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: Light. 7 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: Let's suit Live feels given? Does this shoe get a No? 8 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: One has been in here actually since you st Yeah, 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: all right, it's first Friday a Marland. No g Man, 10 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: Jay g Man, g Man, No one. No hijinks, Doctor J. 11 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: Doctor J says, not him, No hijinks. 12 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 4: You look like a pharaoh. That's what I'm going for. 13 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: Still great, Okay, So. 14 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: I feel like about a pharaoh for sure. I mean 15 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: it's a lot going on there. We haven't had a 16 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: good Egyptian era series or movie in a long time. 17 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: I don't even know what if there is one, but Mummy. 18 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: The Mummy is good. But is that like the one 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: with Brendan Fraser. Yeah, I think I've only seen that once. 20 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: It's a good movie. 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 4: I had launched the Rock, then he had the Scorpion King. 22 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: That was his first. 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: He was in the one with Fraser, not. 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: The very first one, but he was in like the Mummy, returns. 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of them, I know. But like was 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: that that wasn't about like Egyptian culture and like the 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: Rise of Egypt? 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: Was it? Or was it wasn't about the rise of Egypt, 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: but it was about people who were going after Egyptian artifacts. Yeah. 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that time in history. 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind it. I mean something about Cleopatra. 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: Well that that you know, you she's in Rome. She 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: shows up Rome. It's fantastic in Rome. That's great because 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: their father loves that series. It's a great series. It's incredible. 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: HBO throw about one hundred and ten for about ten 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: years there. 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 4: If you only could watch one of them, Rome or Spartacus. 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Rome, I have a question. Yeah, Spartacus isn't that's a 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it has its own it's got its own things. 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: That is that it does very well, very well. But 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: from a historical like interest standpoint, Rome is amazing. Yep. 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 5: RJ the movie critics says, Exodus, Gods and Kings was 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 5: like six years ago, and that's kind of the latest 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 5: he knows. 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: About Exodus, Gods and Kings. So and that's in that Pharaoh. 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: I don't even where did that air? 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 6: Do you? 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Have access to to like to where we could get 49 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: a direct answer on that. Right now, r J would know, 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Jie would, I can look it up. 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 5: He's gone off to the meeting because our CEO, Craig 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 5: Karmeston's in town. They're doing stuff with the whole the 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 5: whole team back in the back office. 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, Gods and kings. I guess I don't. 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: I don't have a plenty of reference on that. I 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: grew up with all of this, so little peak behind 57 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: the curtain. As we kick off the show, it's first 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: Friday Miracle we can live. Yes, my father was an 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: archaeologist and was on Yeah, he's our Indiana Jones come on, No, 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: and he helped. Uh. He was in the group of 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: people that uncovered and excavated King David's castle from David 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: and Goliath. Come on, who said this his pops? Yeah, 63 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: big gibbet. Yeah, my dad's an archaeo. Like, how do 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: I I've just spend my entire life going around to 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: museums artifacts. I love it. I'm we've been working together 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: this long. I've known you for probably eight years, almost 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: a decade. All low these many hours I've often referenced 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and all of that, 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: And at no point you say, oh, yeah, my dad 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: was Indiana Jones. Yeah, way back a way. He's got 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: the whip and everything too. By the way, of course 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: he does. Of course he does. I mean he's got 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: I've got we have sabers, I've got all kinds of 74 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: art workings. How close was How many adventures did he 75 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: go on similar to Indiana Jones. Was there a lot 76 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: of jumping out of airplanes? No? No, no, I remember 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: it was in college. There was a professor of archaeology 78 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: and one of the things that they that he said 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: was that they actually he actually hated those movies because 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: it made the students think that there was this great 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: adventure and really you just dig around in the dirt. 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 3: That's exactly my father sentiments. Yeah, yeah, but he but 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: the movies are great. Yeah. Absolutely. He taught ancient history 84 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: for I don't know how many years at the college 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: level BW CSU and then he you know, I mean 86 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: he worked at AT and T for thirty some years. 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: That was the primary, the breadwinner job. That is awesome. 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: He was he started off he was an archaeologist. That 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: is cool. 90 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: Sv knows who norm Yaffi is. 91 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: A norm Yaffi. 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: Norm Yafi was Uncle Norman. It was a good friend 93 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: of Zagos, who is right now the senior Fellow of 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: the Institute for the Study of Ancient World at NYU. 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: He's been a professor wherever he went. It was that 96 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: became like the number one archaeological anthropology school in the country. 97 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: I am happy to ask, and I bet he does 98 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: because he's a member of all of those archaeological archaeological groups. 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: Zago's guy. We almost in the year two thousand, yep. 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: I was at a dinner at Zago's house, yep, and 101 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: we almost killed Uncle Normy. 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: Not intentionally of course, murder. No. 103 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 4: So this was you know, New Year's of the millennium. 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't know if we're going to make it. 105 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: Zago had along with his friend Dick dee Bold. They 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: had had Dick dey Bold had quite a wine collection. 107 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: There was one bottle of each of at that time 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: whatever in the year two thousand, it was one bottle 109 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: of wine spectators top ten wines, yeah, one each, so 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 4: like sixty five heights Martha's Vineyard, which was the number 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: one ever. They were all there The appetizer was a 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: pound Rabbi, okay, and then the main event were like 113 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: these I think there are giant porterhouses if I have 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: it right. So we're all in there being jagger, amen 115 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 4: and crushing and doing everything. No big deal. Well, a 116 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: mere mortal, non carnivore of of our ilk is going 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: to struggle in this environment. And yeah, Uncle Norm tried 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: to keep up and like almost like aid himself to 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: death and ended up throwing up and in the shower shivering. 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: Was oh my god. Yeah, what a disaster. 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: I know, never heard of such as people can consume 122 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: some people can't. 123 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: No, it's kind of like in seven. That's kind of 124 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: a seven situation. 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: Well it wasn't really, I mean it wasn't. Could have 126 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: been feel gladness. 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: It felt no, quite great, Well not to you, but 128 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: for Uncle Norm I think it perhaps was. Yeah, he's 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: pushed to the brink. 130 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, keb, you have an answer on where to stream 131 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 5: Gods and Kings. Yes, and it was actually twenty fourteen, 132 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: so ten years ago. Uh, but yeah it was. You 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: can rent it on YouTube, Amazon Prime, Apple TV. Those 134 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 5: are the main platforms a lot of people would use. 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: You can rent it for four dollars. 136 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: Exodus Gods, Oh it's a film. Yes, it's a it's 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: an actual yes. 138 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: Actually oh I s yeah, it's like that's the last 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 5: big things in it. 140 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 141 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: Christian Bale, Gourney Weaver, Ben Kingsley, Yeah, big Catten. 142 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: Ooh, Rotten Tomatoes says no, thanks, no, thank you, no, 143 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: thank you no. Dice. I stand by Rome, I'll stand 144 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: by it. That's great. Yep. Here are your Hot Topics today. 145 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: Hot Topics Present of a University Hospitals, official healthcare partner 146 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: of your Cleveland Browns. We had to walk through this morning. 147 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: Remember we play tomorrow and uh and uh uh so 148 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: this is your Saturday in the in the calendar s 149 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: A t U R d A. Why yes, that's true. 150 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: Brown's injury updates. Joe Patonio once again limited with a 151 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: pectoral injury. Miles popped up on the injury report a 152 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: d n P with a hip injury. Anything on that, No, 153 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: not that I'm aware of. Newsome Chief Denzel jed All limited. 154 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: I feel like Miles is going to be just fine. 155 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: It was probably precautionary and you don't have to suit 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: up Thursday night. 157 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he certainly looked. I mean we saw him walk 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: by us. It looked like a man with formidable with 159 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: two lovely hips. 160 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: Steelers pretty healthy. Only DNP this week was due to injury, 161 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: was high Smith. Everyone else is practicing full or out 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: due to rest. 163 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: It'd be good if if he is unable to go, Honestly, 164 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: it'd be very that'd be very nice. 165 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: Who'd they get insurance for him? Didn't they just pick 166 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: up another end. 167 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: Though, Preston Smith? Yeah, former Packer. That's when the Packers 168 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: had Preston on one side and Zadarius on the other. 169 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, this from social. The Steelers have never 170 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: won a road Divisional Thursday Night football game. They're own 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: set at all time, own five under Mike Tomlin. Tomlin 172 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: is two and eight on the road on Thursday night football. 173 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And and the Browns have won eight straight 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: Thursday night games okay at home, two of them over 175 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: the Steelers. And they have won six straight Thursday night 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: games just in general, regardless, ir regardless, ye, regardless of location. 177 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: Broke Prior is going to join us a little later. 178 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: Did you watch the Cavs last night? 179 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: I did. 180 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: These cup courts are just they're hard to watch. Awful, 181 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 3: good game, Okay, so it's clearly it's not for you 182 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: or I because my kids thought it was awesome, and 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, I think you guys are morons, and I 184 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: can't see it. It's hard for me to watch it. 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: It looked fake. It was hard to even get the 186 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 4: depth perception of them on the court. It looked like 187 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: they were running around on a green screen. Yeah, I'm 188 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: with you, no thanks. 189 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: Has the where do we stand? On the three point shot? 190 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 4: Where do we stand? 191 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: They're twenty two of forty one on the three point shot. 192 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: That's what they did yesterday. That's what Boston did. They 193 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: were twenty two of forty one. 194 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: That's how we'd been shooting. But I mean I went 195 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: to against the Bulls. I think we were sixty seven 196 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: percent from three in the first half. Right, people are 197 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: good at it. Good for them, It's very skilled. 198 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: It's been the it's been the biggest fundamental change in 199 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: the game, in the game in our lifetime. All of 200 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 3: us are men were forty. There was a time where 201 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: you middle school. For sure, I couldn't. They wouldn't let 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: ushoot him. You would weren't dared to go out there. 203 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: If I shot outside the key. I was going to 204 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: the bench. 205 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: I played a game where coach will Band the jump 206 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: shot for an entire game. So there was you we 207 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: had it had to be all in the in the key. 208 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: That's such an old school dumb coach move there. 209 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: So we won the game. 210 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: Course, but then he banned. He wouldn't have done it 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: if you thought you guys were playing a team who 212 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: you would lose to. 213 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: I had a sweet jump hook, like Kevin Willis Duck 214 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 4: had a great jump hook, and then jump hook the 215 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: duck was Kevin Duckworth. 216 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: I just think he didn't like you fair. I think 217 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: that as I pieced together the coach Whitworth is that 218 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: his name, the coach Whitworth stories through the years, it 219 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: feels like there was a lot of him trying to 220 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: put yokes on you and put and and come at 221 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: you because to ban all of the things that you 222 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: do at any chance, and if you made them, what 223 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: difference would what would he care if you made them? 224 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: Why would he catch seventoor? 225 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So if you're doing that, then there's no reason 226 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: because I would run my mouth. 227 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's what it is, and I would call 228 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: him coach Twitworth. 229 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So then this is why he's banning the jump hook. 230 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: But you cannot okay, hold on a second, if you run. 231 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: Your girl, you can't talk crap to a figurehead. Nathan 232 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: in the first row. Was this the school your dad 233 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: was the boss at? Yeah, okay, So all the more. 234 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: I was in trouble, I was in trouble day where 235 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: was They were all part of his. 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: Under his regime, He's at the top of the yoke, 237 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: and then there's all these guys under his regime. 238 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: There are yokers. So here's the thing, though, you're my 239 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: trash talking with You have to remember what I told 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: you about about Himmember when you're talking about. 241 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: Your kids gains scrimmage. 242 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: We would scrimmage and it would be him and like 243 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: the four bottom guys on the roster against like the 244 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 4: eight man rotation and of like the real and he 245 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: was really good player, played professionally in Europe. You think 246 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: he was talking smack the entire time. So we were 247 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: like in a competitive situation, talking smack. But nonetheless he 248 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: didn't like me. So here's my Here was my greatest, 249 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: my greatest coach with This is one of my great 250 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: moments in sport history. So we had this guy Mark 251 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: de Servey, who was a buddy of mine, and I 252 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: would make up these like random rhymes about people on 253 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: our team, and to Servey got like swatted or something, 254 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: and I was on the baseline and I said something like, 255 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: you know, Mark de Servey, what an oaf? And then 256 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: that he eats bread by the loaf. Well, Mark Survey 257 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: wanted to fight me after that, which I mean, in 258 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: the realm of insults, not even that big of one, 259 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: and we were friends, so he got all mad. Then 260 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: Coach Whitworth gets all mad at me, and he was like, 261 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: you need to stop running your mouth or whatever, blah 262 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 4: blah blahcause earlier in practice I took a jump shot 263 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 4: from the wing that I made and Alan Eberley was 264 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: wide open under the basket and he's like, how could 265 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 4: you shoot that whine open? I said, because I'm not 266 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: gonna miss. Yeah, by the way, didn't miss. And then 267 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: he goes, so you trust yourself to make a seventeen 268 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: foot or more than you trust Alan Everley to make 269 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: a lip And I said, no, it has nothing to 270 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: do with him. I said, no offense to Alan Everly, 271 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: but I'm gonna make it and I do. So those 272 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: things all happen. So finally he halts practice and he goes, 273 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 4: you think you're so good, right, yeah, he goes, Okay, 274 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: this is what we're gonna do. Everybody on the baseline. 275 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: I get the ball to the top of the key. If 276 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: I score, then the next person comes out. Until I 277 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: don't score, and if I don't get to even like 278 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: halfway through the team, I'm like running and not playing 279 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: for like a week. 280 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: Hold on a second. You're out there, the coaches out there, 281 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm out there. Oh, and your teammates are coming to 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: try and stop it, trying to stop me. 283 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: Okay, one on one, Okay, So I bust everybody, and 284 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: now it's me and him. 285 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: He's last, and he plays. 286 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: This guy played professional basketball in your and he is 287 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: in my. 288 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: Physically. 289 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: He was like six five and he was a good 290 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: He played like three in Europe, and I had a 291 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: step back on him and made it. So I busted. 292 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 4: Now that's it was like fourteen in a row. I 293 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: start running around the gym seeing d and after that 294 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: he hated me forever. 295 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: I imagine. Also, he's an idiot for doing that. What 296 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: an incredible It's a nice moment, very nice moment for you. 297 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: And it's also just a stupid thing to do as 298 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: a coach, to have to turn it into that it's 299 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: just nonsense. Were you guys even remotely good? 300 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were like twenty eight and three. We were 301 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: really good. We were a very good team. We were 302 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: a real, really. 303 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: Good Nothing that happens in these practices with you and 304 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,239 Speaker 3: your team. So here's I don't know how anything translates 305 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: well to the court. 306 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: Then we went to varsity and he like he went 307 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: up with us, and he became like a completely different person. 308 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: Like there was no more scrimmaging, there was no fun, 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: there was no nothing he was. He got all serious 310 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: and now we were we were very, very good. And 311 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: then my senior year, like I averaged like I was 312 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: like the six man, but I would play when it mattered, 313 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: and I would you know, I averaged like fourteen a game, 314 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: which in high school is like a decent good number, 315 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: decent number. And then senior year, basically he was just 316 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: like not going to play me, And I was like, whatever, 317 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: so why was he going to play you? Because he 318 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: just didn't like he did not like me. 319 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: I just reject the notion that he wasn't going to 320 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: play somebody who was a six man who averaged fourteen 321 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: years a junior. 322 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: We'll do in the off season, we get Vince Conye 323 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: on the phone and you can ask all the questions 324 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: you want. He'll tell it break down. He also didn't 325 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: like to I. 326 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: Need somebody from coach, which coach with were side? So 327 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: we could we don't even we don't anymore? Yeah, where's Pedro? 328 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: My dad will wear you in on this. 329 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Side? Will he weighed positively on your end. Yes, why 330 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: didn't just fire the coach? 331 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: He was that he wasn't the DNA, that boy, he 332 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: wasn't the athletic director. 333 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: So that's my senior year. 334 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: Senior year, I didn't play, and I was ourn it's right. 335 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: Do you regret not playing? No? 336 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: No, okay, I think it spawned what I do now? 337 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: All right? What I yeah, maybe very likely. What I 338 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: was going to say about all of this was what 339 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: a sidetrack was a hell of a hell of a diversion, 340 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: the cruising them. Good job to you. It's it's I 341 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: don't love watching it fifty threes. I just it's so 342 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: many threes. 343 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: You know. 344 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: It's interesting for me to hear you say that, because. 345 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: You and I like shooters. Yeah, right, I do. But 346 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: it's it's just they're so proficient at it. It's good, 347 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: it is. The skill is incredible. We've never had more 348 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: skilled players. But it's it is doing ever since there 349 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: were kids. I know it, and it's Steph is the 350 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: big reason they no limiting, they have no yoke. It's 351 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: Steph is what changed it. His ability to shoot. Not 352 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: up until that point. You shot to the line and 353 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: Steph started shooting ten feet behind the line, and then 354 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: that's when it starts to be like then then you 355 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: have the court spreading the way that we see it 356 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: now to where guys can stand twenty cross over, cross over, 357 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: cross over, fall away from twenty five and spin it. 358 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: I do like how they move it and get open shots. 359 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: But it's it's crazy, just the ability to shoot the 360 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 3: way that these guys shoot it at this point, and 361 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: it's it's a it's a very different game to watch. 362 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: It's all either a layup or it's a three, so 363 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: there is nothing in the middle. 364 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 4: I was at the game against the Bulls and like 365 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: Nikola Vusovich or Nikolovovich is a good player. Yeah, he 366 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: is a two time All Star. He's a seven footer, 367 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 4: he's a center. Yeah, he's shooting this year sixty percent 368 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: from the field, fifty percent from three right, averaging twenty 369 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 4: one points, ten boards, and three assist a game. So 370 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: at that game, I'm like, this guy's standing there and 371 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: he's shooting threes with great confidence. Last night, by the way, 372 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: he goes six of eight from three and scores twenty 373 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 4: nine against Detroit. Against US two for four from three, 374 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 4: scored twenty five. But you're like, that guy would not 375 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 4: even have of attempted a three in a season. 376 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: No, there's everybody can everybody can shoot it. The passing 377 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: is beautiful, the shot making is amazing. The mid is 378 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: it's gone. It doesn't exist. It's a wasted shot, honestly. 379 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: And there was a point in the first half the 380 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: last Yeah. I mean you think of the probably the 381 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: two most skilled players during our formidable formidable years were 382 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: Mike and Kobe in terms of their total skill, and 383 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 3: they lived in the mid range game and that's all 384 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: gone now now it's all out. They were of course 385 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: they would I agree, if they were in the Staff 386 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: era then they would have. But you watch it, it's 387 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 3: just like, Wow, you're just basically trading twos for threes 388 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: and you just have to hope that Boston gets cold. 389 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: Eventually they did in the third quarter and you were 390 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: able to make a run. But it's it's just a 391 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: very it's a very different game, very different. And they're 392 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: talking they've talked about like eliminating the corner threes because 393 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: they're too easy, like just taking the line and like 394 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: stopping it so that they're so that you do get 395 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: a little bit more of the movement to the rim. 396 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: Cavs are shooting forty two percent from three as a team. 397 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: It's crazy. Now it's a team. I wouldn't know the 398 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: answer to this, but in my mind, eighty two games, 399 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: at some point the fatigue comes into play here and 400 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: can you do it for an entire game? 401 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: Here's you're not though, Like now you have You've got 402 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: like on our team, you've got LeVert who's shooting forty 403 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: six percent, Ty Jerome shooting fifty five percent, a Coro 404 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 4: shooting forty four percent, Craig Porter Junior is shooting sixty 405 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: three percent. Merrill, who normally is your three point shooter, 406 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: struggling this year and he's at thirty six percent. You know, 407 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 4: like Garland's at forty three percent, Mitchell's at forty one percent. 408 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: It's it's that everybody on the team can shoot. He 409 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 4: already shoots it, bigs, it doesn't matter. No, they have 410 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: to because you have to spread it. And I think 411 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 4: it's cool. That's why scoring is. I remember we went 412 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: to the game, uh, that Bulls game, and my buddy 413 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: was like the cook. He's like, oh yeah, I got 414 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: the calves and I got under forty five. I'm like five. 415 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's a lot. They scored eighty in the 416 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: first half. It was like eighty to seventy to the 417 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: table points in the first half. I'm like, well, you're 418 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 4: not winning that one, my friend. 419 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 420 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 4: There's also this notion of the Nuggets with what Paul 421 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: West heead. Yeah, that was when they were scoring one 422 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: hundred in the game and they were like light leading 423 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: the league at like one hundred and ten a game. 424 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. That was Chris Jackson, right, Michael Adams. Michael Adams 425 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: who shot his. 426 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: Free throws from like behind the line and way over 427 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 4: the side. 428 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah he did. Yeah. No, it's it's it's a it's 429 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 3: such a different it's probably in the sports world, probably 430 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: the biggest adjustment it's right there. I think it's even 431 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: more than like the ability to throw the football in 432 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: the NFL. I think it even more because there were 433 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: five thousand yard passers in the eighties. There weren't a lot, 434 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: but there were a couple, like the Marino you're in 435 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: eighty four. There were a couple of guys who were 436 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: over forty five, Like you could do it. The amount 437 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: of ability to shoot the three now just opposed to 438 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: what it was forty years ago. 439 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's everybody. You would think though that 440 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: there would be, because everybody in the NBA just feels 441 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: like is bigger, longer, leaner, they can all play the 442 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 4: pick and roll, that they would be able to step it. 443 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: I was having a draft with my buddy Novak. We 444 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: were going we went back and forth and picked like 445 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: our ultimate six man team to play, and I got 446 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: Shack And then I was like, you know, now I 447 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: was surrounded. I had Larry Bird, I had Jordan, I 448 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: had Kevin Durant. But like Shack might be a liab, 449 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 4: like Nikola Jokic might actually be better in a game 450 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 4: like that. Today he would be Shack. He would be 451 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: even peakcheck because peakcheck cannot make a three and you. 452 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: Don't want to and you'd put him on the line. 453 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: And you don't want him on the perimeter defense. I'm 454 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: surprised that there aren't more. The ability to defend the 455 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: three is not better than it is because you'd beat 456 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 4: if somebody gets around you and gets a layup. 457 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: So what, Yeah, I don't know why you just would Yeah, 458 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: go ahead, kiv. 459 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: I mean, the reason why it's so difficult to defend 460 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 5: the three is because of the transformative element of Steph 461 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: Curry and the lack of contact you can have, like 462 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 5: even the subtle little fingernail like you're getting a foul call, 463 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 5: So like you have to be very, very in tune 464 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: to your defensive principles that try to defend it, and 465 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 5: guys are just are shooting over guys anyways and knocking 466 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 5: them down. 467 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: From thirty feet away or more. The first part is 468 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: a really important part, because they had that stretch where basically, 469 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: if you got near a three point shooter and they 470 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: would lean into you and get the three fouls. And 471 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: they've curbed that through the last few years, but that 472 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: that created a lot of bad habits defensively in the 473 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: last decade, the Curry thing is the big thing. It's 474 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: because forever you ran to the line, because why it's 475 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: the closest spot to the rim. Shoot from the to 476 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 3: the closest spot to the rim. And he's like, well, 477 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: I'm gonna shoot four feet behind it. And now we 478 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: have a whole generation of players like my seventh grade son. 479 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: He consistently can shoot it three to four feet behind 480 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: the three point line and make them. And he's it's 481 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: a very natural shot for him because he's done it 482 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: since he was little. Wouldn't so I wouldn't even have 483 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: thought to do that. In fact, he's got an on 484 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: his seventh grade team. He's got an older gentleman, great guy, 485 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: but as an older guy who's an assistant coach and 486 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 3: gets on him not for shooting deep threes. Why are 487 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: you taking a deep three? Take this one. They grew 488 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: up shooting that shot, and. 489 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 4: We are all taught to shoot it up here, which 490 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: makes it a lot harder because the steph and now 491 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: they can all they bring it all from here. 492 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: Larry was way and these guys all shoot the STEPH shot. 493 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: They all do Larry, They all shoot the stuff shot. 494 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: Guess what Larry's career best three point percentage was thirty seven. No, 495 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: thirty four, no, no, no, norty. I was gonna say 496 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: forty three, forty two point seven. Wow, yeah, that was 497 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: his best. The most of threes he attempted in a 498 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: game in his career was three point three in nineteen 499 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: ninety at the age of thirty four. That was the 500 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: most threes he attempted in a game and his prime 501 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: that right now you want MVPs in three straight years 502 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: and the most threes he attempted was two point four 503 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: average per game. The game is it's a totally different game. 504 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: I think it's honestly the biggest rule change difference in 505 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: any of the major sports in my lifetime is the 506 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: three point shot and the ability to shoot it deep. 507 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: So that first of all accepting shooting it, which happened 508 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: in the nineties, and then Steph taking it off the line, 509 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: those those combination of things are the biggest change in 510 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: the way the game is played. 511 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 4: What I don't like is that you cannot play and 512 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: this is coming from somebody who had no interest in 513 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: doing this in my basketball career, but that you really 514 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: can't play physical defense anymore. So like think about what ag. 515 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: Let me just tell you this what you see at 516 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: the youth level defense physical would astonish you. They are 517 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: they allow their hands on them all the time. Yeah, 518 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're push and shove and grab and push 519 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: and shove and push push, push like constantly. Yeah, way 520 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 3: more than anything you or I ever played with. But 521 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: you're right at the top level, you're you're not seeing it. 522 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: You never trust me, dude, Like not compared like in 523 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: middle school, like they are. It's handsy always, constant's way 524 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: more than anything I grew up playing like all the 525 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 3: Remember we don't handcheck, handcheck. We got a hand check, 526 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: vowel side out, none of that handcheck, do whatever you want. 527 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: All of that is free pass. 528 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: Hand checks on saint beads. We would shod a lot 529 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: more free throws in that day. 530 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: It's making up for the not calling a travel on 531 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the basketball, Yeah, for sure. 532 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: Well, and gives your question earlier about you know, can 533 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: you sustain it over an eighty two game season. I 534 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: think the answer to that is is no, only because 535 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: like and I use the example of AI's Garland last night, 536 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 5: they've only played sixteen games, and he looked like he'd 537 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 5: been through a bunch of games because he's been just 538 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 5: putting his body on the line for the first fifteen 539 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: to sixteen games of the year and everybody wants to 540 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 5: blame him for last night, but really it was just 541 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 5: a guy that was He looked like out of gas 542 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 5: and looks like he needs a day off like Mitchell 543 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: got two days ago. 544 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: Again, this is this is game and that's what I think. 545 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: I was just going next. That's the other problem, and 546 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: this reached me up in March. This is why is 547 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: why last night was really fun. It was great. It's fun. 548 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: It's a fun night. But the reality is exactly. I 549 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: don't want to say anything away from the fifteen and 550 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: starts because it's all been awesome. So it's been fun. 551 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: They are clearly a much different team. What a difference 552 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: a coach makes, Like if this continues for the duration 553 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: of the season, this is going to be a lot 554 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: of fun, for sure. But it's eighty two games over 555 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 3: six months. And that's why the sport that we talk 556 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: about is the one that is the king because it's 557 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: once a week. Yeah, it's once a week. Every game 558 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: twenty is critical. Every game is critical, yes, and in 559 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: this you could it's a ten game double that for baseball, right, 560 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: it's not even twenty twenty. I get kind of the 561 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: preseason games, it's seventeen seventeen weeks. 562 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 563 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: Like with the. 564 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: With the Calves, they're awesome. I can't wait for But 565 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 4: what we don't even started to playf so what may 566 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: a well April yeam, and it's like a the playoffs 567 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 4: are almost. 568 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: As two and a half three months. Yeah. No, that's 569 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: the that's the negative that those sports have as you 570 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: have a nice moment, but then it'll go back burner 571 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: for a while. The best was last night inside the 572 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: NBA shack and Barkley betting ten million dollars if the 573 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: Calves were going to win the game or not, and 574 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: then someone leaking it and finding out that it was 575 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: fake money when they started going through shacks stacks of 576 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: cash that he was pulling out of a bag and 577 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: throwing a chuck. Would would Shaquille O'Neil, with all of 578 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: his wealth even notice ten million missing? No, but Barkley 579 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: might Barkley Wood, I don't know that. And Barkley just 580 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: a two hundre million dollar deal, but check's gotta be 581 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: near close to a billion that's quite a bit, it is. 582 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: It is all right, lots to get to Steelers here tomorrow. 583 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: Elijah Moore is coming up next. We got Brook Pryor 584 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 3: later in the program. We will see if zeken know 585 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: the scores. You have that to look forward to, which 586 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: is very very nice. We're often running on a first 587 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: Friday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 588 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet. Now 589 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 590 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: Who's your game day this season? At the vallely Bet 591 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: sports Book app place your first bet at fifty bucks 592 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: or morning you get one hundred and fifty back in 593 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: bonus bets. Bally Bet, official sports betting partner of your 594 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. And here is with Elijah Moore. We're efforting, efforting, this, 595 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: efforting this I heard. As soon as I heard the 596 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: computer noise, I thought, well that's no. 597 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: Well let's try I We'll try it again. But let 598 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 4: me tell you someb of you interview. It was a great, 599 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: great interview. He's Elijah Wore is a very very likable guy. 600 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: This was from last night. It was last night's Kevin Sanski, 601 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: let's go give me. We're rallying. Unloaded it. He's rallying. 602 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't I believe this might be an ESPN Cleveland 603 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: computer issue. So read at work with this, he said, 604 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: A ten million dollar bet for Shack is only two 605 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: percent of his five hundred million dollar net worth. So 606 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: he'd noticed that. 607 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: You'd still notice that. 608 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd notice that. 609 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: A million maybe not ten tenny one? Yeah. So did 610 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: they end up not betting on it? I don't think 611 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: they did. But like it got like you were watching 612 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: it and I'm like, is this really happening? Like and 613 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: then when Shack just started pulling out piles of cash, 614 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, something's fishy here. Shack's always been pretty smart. 615 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna give it another shot. All right, 616 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: here's Elijah Moore. 617 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: We'll see very happy to be joined now by Browns 618 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: wide receiver Elijah Moore and Elijah as Now that I've 619 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: kind of gotten to come down here and I see 620 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: this amazing smoothie display and I see the variety of flavors. 621 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 4: I have to start by asking you what is the 622 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: Elijah Moore smoothie of choice? 623 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Uh, definitely strawberry. But strawberry, mango, strawberry and mango. Yeah, top, 624 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: that's my top. 625 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 4: That's a number one. Okay, all right, good. I mean 626 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: there are a lot of it's quite a variety of them. 627 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: You've got purples and greens, and yeah. 628 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: Yours looks like a very the little strawberry, little mango. Delightful. 629 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. 630 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: I like that. You know what else say, like you 631 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 4: get into the end zone. It's great to see. First 632 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 4: of all, tremendous catch. Just talk about that play for 633 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: a second and kind of as it unfolded and he saw, Okay, 634 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: you know you're getting covered too. You get her on 635 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 4: the outside release and then he just kind of doesn't 636 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: go with you in the safeties biting and you gotta 637 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 4: be like I saw the hand go up and then 638 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: also on the ball came and it wasn't as easy 639 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: once the ball got there. The toe tap, you're getting 640 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: hit from two directions. Great catch, but just kind of 641 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: walk me through that play through your eyes. 642 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, definitely works. Scrambled your every single day. You know. 643 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: That's something now I've been trying to get in the 644 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: same page with Jamison on and it was just great 645 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: that it got displayed during the game, you know, just 646 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: like you said, it was in cover too. I was 647 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: kind of making sure that the safety didn't cheat over 648 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: too much to where I have rooms. So I knew 649 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: it was definitely gonna be a bang bang. I just 650 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: had to come down. 651 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: With it, and you did. 652 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: Where do you put that one in your in your 653 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: catches in your NFL career? 654 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: Man, it's first of this year, so it's definitely top. 655 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: But it just felt it felt good to get back in, 656 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: you know, Nanzo. 657 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Tute delighted me. 658 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: Now some would say, you know, new beard, knew you 659 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: new touchdown. I don't know, so what when people there listening, 660 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: they're not seeing it, but you know you're at the 661 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: beard was a little bit bushy earlier, and then you 662 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: came back from the bye week. I got it trimmed 663 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: up what I told you, and then boom. 664 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: Right the en I definitely probably gotta cut it. Well, 665 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: that's probably my new signature now. 666 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: I think it's a good one. What made you decide 667 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: to do it? 668 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: I had a baby shower, me and my lady, and 669 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: you know, she just asked me to cut it, to 670 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: clean it up, have more of a sharp look. 671 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: So I told her, yeah, okay, so baby's on the way, Yes, sir, 672 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: a girl, baby girl. 673 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 2: Sir, February, in February. 674 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: How about it? How about it? Is this your first? 675 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 676 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: The best, Yes, sir, it's the best, so my and 677 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 4: it goes fast, so you're gonna have to enjoy it. 678 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 4: My daughter is now, I need some tips about to 679 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: be seventeen, driving, has a boyfriend, all of it. 680 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: So cherishes. Here's the good news. 681 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: You're gonna You're gonna me days a little girl, days, 682 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 4: litt girl. She's gonna love you. That's just how that's 683 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 4: how it works out. It's gonna be it's the best, 684 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: and it will. 685 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: I know. 686 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 4: People tell you this, it's gonna change your life, like 687 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: you're I've been hearing that. You'll get back to me 688 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: in February and be like when you first hold and 689 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: look in the eyes of your baby girl, it's just 690 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: like you're in. You will be a different person from 691 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: that day, for I can't wait for that. Then I'll 692 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: tell you this, You're gonna have a lot of joy, 693 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: but you'll never stop worrying. 694 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: I know I'm worrying now and machine here. 695 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: You yeah, yeah, how fun is that? When you got 696 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: to go to the ultra soundcy the heartbeat. It was 697 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 4: always this is real. 698 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: I kept having toil. I kind of pinched myself, like, damn, 699 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: be a dad. I really got to make sure that 700 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: I'm on my p's and q's, you know. So I'm 701 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: just trying to formulate myself. Now, get in line with 702 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: what I gotta do, and just start me and that person. 703 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: Now it's good. It's good. 704 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: Good idea, good advice for yourself and a good plan. 705 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: You'd be great. 706 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, just something just changes in you. It takes over 707 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: and thinks naturally. I don't know how to do it, 708 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 4: but you do, yes, know. For changing diapers. Hopefully she's 709 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: a good sleeper. That's what That's what I'm going to 710 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: wish for you, that good stamp. 711 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: But please, dude, everybody's telling me that's the only part. 712 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be an off season, so it's gonna 713 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: be good. It's gonna be perfect. All right, let's talk 714 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: about what we got left here? Right, seven games a season, 715 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: we know that big picture hasn't gone the way that 716 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 2: we want to. 717 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: Your type for the team lead. 718 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: With thirty nine catches, and it feels like lately getting 719 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: a few more off oportunities and it's it's been working 720 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: out very very well for you. How do you kind 721 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: of feel like, individually your season has gone and it 722 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 4: feels like it's it's on the ascent here. 723 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, obviously at first it was going my 724 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: way at all, but that's football. It's ups and downs. 725 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: You know, you got to adapt. It's definitely frustrating, but 726 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: now the more opportunities is presenting yourself and you know, 727 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: we're kind of trying to catch rhythm with what we 728 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: got left and make the most of it. I feel 729 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: like that's exactly what we're doing, and it's all the 730 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: reason to be excited about, you know, this offense and 731 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: this team. 732 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: You made some big catches, big catches in the game 733 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 4: against the Ravens that lead to that and win. Obviously, 734 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: big catches in this game against the Saints, and it 735 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: feels like you're back doing what you're most comfortable doing, 736 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: just playing wide receiver and sometimes you're inside, sometimes you're outside, 737 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: but just running those routes that are well the reason 738 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: why you're drafted very early in the second round. Coming 739 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: out of all miss you feel more comfortable now. It 740 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: feels like you and Jamis already have a pretty good connection. 741 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feel it feels good to you know, to 742 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: display it, watch myself do it crafted and then have 743 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: the opportunity to make the play in you know, the 744 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 2: in the big moment, and yeah, we're definitely catching a 745 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: with all the guys. You know, I feel like it's 746 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: something that you know as a receiver, you know you 747 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: want the ball and it's fine, Aget pissed around. 748 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: Well in this last game alone, you had eight targets, 749 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 4: said had eight targets. 750 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: I think Jerry maybe you had eleven and Chief had nine. 751 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: When you have four guys there and if you know 752 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 4: that if I get open, the ball's gonna come to me, 753 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: and that makes your job a heck of a lot. 754 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: Easier, exactly, definitely and exciting. You know, it's something I 755 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: think that none of us are complaining about it all. 756 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: You know, we are pretty quiet and just doing what 757 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: we need to. 758 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: Do, and you guys are blocking for each other down 759 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 4: the field. 760 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: You see it. 761 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 4: So your room, I imagine at times, you know, you 762 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 4: started to season, Imari was here now he's in Buffalo, but. 763 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: Your room is kind of gone with the struggles. 764 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: That have happened overall offensively, and you feel that and 765 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 4: now it feels like kind of a little bit unleashed. 766 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: And what Jamis will do is if it's there, he's 767 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 4: gonna see it and he's gonna throw, and he's willing 768 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 4: to kind of put the ball maybe in some tighter 769 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: situations to make plays. And you guys are benefiting from that. 770 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 2: M M exactly. You know, football is definitely you got 771 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: ticket risks. You know, sometimes when you don't take the 772 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: ticket risks, you'll never know, you know. And I feel 773 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: like that's exactly what we're doing, trying to be in 774 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: the you know, in the spots that he needs us 775 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: to be at the time. You know that we need 776 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 2: to be there. 777 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 4: What's wild is it's a young receiver room. You and 778 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 4: Jerry are really the best in that receiver room. You're 779 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: still on your rookie contract. Jerry's in his fifty year, 780 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: you're one year behind him. There isn't kind of that 781 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: old head in there. So how's kind of that dynamic 782 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 4: vintage Seeing said come in and the second ye're making 783 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 4: a lot of plays. Now, what's that dynamic been like 784 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 4: in that room for you guys? 785 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: And obviously with coach O Shah, I feel like we 786 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: all can play you know, and as far as everyone 787 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: the aids part for everybody that's getting the ball has 788 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: showed it, they that they could do it. You know, 789 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: it's just a matter of you know, gelling and being 790 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: on time with what we need to be on time with. 791 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's definitely a chess game within the coaches 792 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: and us is dominating what they need us to dominate 793 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: in order to get to win. We're not getting to win. 794 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: So we got to add up, you know, we got 795 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: to do some stuff different, but we got to continue 796 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: to make the plays that we know we're making and more. 797 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 2: You know. But as far as us being young, I 798 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: feel like everyone's playing as much as you know, to 799 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: their ability as much as they're being asked to. 800 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 3: Do, which is great. 801 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 4: And the other thing we're kind of talk about with 802 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 4: jameis is you think about the two touchdowns in that 803 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 4: Saints game. Jerry was probably I don't know this for sure, 804 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: but this is just my amateur I probably the third 805 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 4: read on that play. It's probably Sad and then him 806 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 4: and that ends up being a touchdown. 807 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: You on yours. 808 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: He was clearly looking left and then you weren't the 809 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: primary read. But when you have a quarterback that can 810 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: extend plays, move around the pocket, and isn't afraid to 811 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: get to you know, three or four in the progression. 812 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: There are no plays off, right because if you win, 813 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 4: you can still get. 814 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: The ball exactly and it just makes everybody on AP's 815 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: and Q's twin always you. 816 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: Know, and you're doing that all right? 817 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 4: Talk final seven games? What are some goals you actually 818 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 4: want to win every game? Individually? I'm saying, what do 819 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 4: you want to prove? And listen, this is a big 820 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 4: seven games for you. 821 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: You know that. 822 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 4: I know that's the end of your rookie contract. You 823 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 4: have an opportunity, and I know you've said you want 824 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: to stay here. I certainly want you to stay here 825 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: in Cleveland for the rest of your career. But this 826 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 4: is an opportunity to help build that bank account for 827 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 4: your daughter. Because when you're a free agent, you're gonna 828 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: get some market value. And the better you can do, 829 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 4: the better that comes. So what are kind of your 830 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 4: goals over these final seven games? 831 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: Just whenever my name is called, to make make the plays. 832 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 2: You know, people want people on their team that's reliable, 833 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, So just keep keep being that reliable player, 834 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 2: Keep getting smarter, learn the football and just eventually adding 835 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 2: up to wins. 836 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think in my mind of when your 837 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 4: number did get called on a big third down where 838 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: you didn't catch. Well, I go back to Indianapolis, you 839 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 4: make that twenty yarder where we go and win that 840 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: wild game there against Baltimore. Was that out on the 841 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 4: right side that you made that catch on third down 842 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 4: that allowed us to go. 843 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 3: Win that game? 844 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: Opportunities and that's got to think one thing that's got 845 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 4: to be I'd imagine difficulty. 846 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: You're at all miss You know you're touching the. 847 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 4: Ball as actually twelve times a game, right, They're going 848 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 4: to get you the ball, whether it's quick screen, you're 849 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 4: gonna catch. You're in touch that football. In the NFL, 850 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 4: when you're playing receiver, you getting open as job one. Yes, Okay, 851 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 4: that doesn't guarantee anything, because the offensive lines got to block, 852 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks got to see it, they're caring pressure. Then 853 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: you got to catch it. They're all kinds of things. 854 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 4: How hard is it to kind of stay with it? 855 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 4: And you've done such a good job. You mentioned earlier 856 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: in the season, it wasn't just you. The ball just 857 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 4: wasn't coming to peoples set before he got going ahead 858 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 4: three catches for nine. 859 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeards on the season. 860 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: I know that's crazy. 861 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: How do you kind of stick with it and then 862 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 4: now and how does that kind of change when it's like, okay, 863 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 4: it's worked. 864 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 3: Off and now I know the ball's coming. 865 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely frustrating at first. You know, you got 866 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 2: to stay locked in. You got to be a different 867 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: type of person. I feel like that's why, like people 868 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: kind of respect us as athletes, because we do things 869 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: that people don't want to do. And then there's also 870 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: the other side of it too, like even though we're 871 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 2: doing something that people would love to do, it's also 872 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: the ups and downs within that too. You know. So 873 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 2: you got to play team football, you gotta wait, and 874 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 2: that waiting hurts just like anything else. But I kind 875 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: of the way I approach it, you know, to make 876 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: all my plays is you just don't know when you're gonna. 877 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 3: Get it again. Yeah. 878 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: So if you look at it from that perspective, like 879 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 2: I might not touch this ball the rest again, so 880 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: it's got to be a first down or a touchdown. 881 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: I feel like you're you're the mindset in your mind 882 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: is already set. Okay, have to make this play. There's 883 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: no exceptions. You know, when you and when you think 884 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 2: like that, which I think our group does, it only 885 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: positive stuff comes out of it. 886 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: And the hard part is bouncing is you can't try 887 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 4: to do too much. You can't try to. 888 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: Make God just be you. You don't got to be 889 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: overly superman special. You got to be you, all right. 890 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 4: Thursday night football, quick turnaround. You're in a dome. Great 891 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 4: to be in a dome. The weather looking crazy thing 892 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: call football weather. I'd rather be in a dome me personally, 893 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm sure you would. Steelers. They're eight and two, they're 894 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 4: playing great defense. You guys have a quick week to prepare. 895 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: But it's two teams that know each other. Well, what 896 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 4: are you kind of looking for in this game? And 897 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 4: how do you attack a d that's been playing really, 898 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 4: really well. 899 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fundamentally it's fundamentally goes back to 900 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: fundamentally a quick turn around. They have a quick turnaround, 901 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: you know. We it goes back to fundaments. We're going 902 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: over our players and making sure that if we're in 903 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: the right spots and we're doing what we need to do. 904 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: Just like you said, we know this team and you know, 905 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 2: and they know us. You know, we've been watching film 906 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: when I was another team, and then so much here, 907 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: you know. So I feel like everybody knows exactly what 908 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: needs to get done, and games like this just come 909 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 2: back down to details and not losing by killing ourselves first. 910 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 4: You know, when you're a young team and we got 911 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 4: we are very few guys that were even on this 912 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,959 Speaker 4: roster that beat the Steelers in the playoffs in twenty twenty. 913 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: That's just the nature of the NFL when you get 914 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: four or five years down the road, do you do 915 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: do you think the team has a sense of kind 916 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 4: of what Brown Steelers means to this community? 917 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 2: Even me, like I didn't know at first last year 918 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: was kind of getting warmed up to it. But maybe 919 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: like that second game when we played them, I said, 920 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: oh no, you taking kind of shites and this is 921 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 2: not a game. This is like we need these right here, 922 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: you know. So now it's definitely a rivalry that you 923 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 2: know that I love participating in. 924 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 4: How much do you like being on Thursday and at football? 925 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: I love it, man. It's definitely the best and you 926 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 2: get to show your talent from everybody to being only 927 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: games on TV. 928 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 4: Last time Thursday night football. Not that you don't know this. 929 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 4: You scored a touchdown against the New York He did 930 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 4: score a touchdown, Yes, he did. 931 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: Look at this. What is this so nice for? It's 932 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: not the it's a Wednesday, can't help it. It's a gene. 933 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 3: It's a it's a painted on jean. By the look, 934 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 3: Chelsea bees look. 935 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 4: Like mc hammer pants compared to what I saw over 936 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 4: the weekend. 937 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 3: Oh, it was really. 938 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 939 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: I don't know how he got them. 940 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 3: I don't either. It's they're all off cut to fit. 941 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 3: Uh and a nice a nice How would we just 942 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 3: what would we call that? The color of that jacket, 943 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: it's a nice it's a soft brown. It's not a tan. 944 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: It's more of like a a walnut. I like it. 945 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 4: I like it, They like you it. 946 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: I like it. I also like college football. Nate Nate 947 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: Fine Bomb. Coming up next, the segment that is Sweeping 948 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 3: the Nation. 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Nate finebamb is 957 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: here duck disease. 958 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 4: And if we don't get to my hot take, I've 959 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 4: got it. He's got a hot take to Okay, and 960 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't look at the downs. 961 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 3: All right, Well, before we get into that, keep your 962 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: Brown's hat on. Final injury report is out? Why do this? 963 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 3: Swim is out with a concussion. Jed Wills is out 964 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 3: with a knee predicted. Yep, Now good news on the 965 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: Steelers side of things. Heismith out officially, and then Trice 966 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: hamstring the corner outbeat as well. Okay, that's what I was, Trice. 967 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 4: Right round the outside rally outside. 968 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 3: Otherwise I think we're actually still really pretty good. So 969 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 3: the way you started that read made me think you 970 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 3: were going to say something about Miles Miles was did 971 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 3: you feel that way? It felt like a doomsday Miles 972 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 3: was listed as a limited participants today, but he'll be 973 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, oh no, all right, go ahead, 974 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: give a beautiful let's get down to it. It's four downs. 975 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 3: Let's get done that. I don't know what we're doing 976 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 3: and not selling it, but we should be selling it. 977 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: It's four downs. The name he did it already, there 978 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 3: we go. I'll do it again. I don't care. Yeah, 979 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: you're fine, You're great. 980 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 981 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 3: This from Joey Galloway, followed by a question. Yep, they 982 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 3: can't go anything. 983 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 4: Chance to on the road and. 984 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: What they are now. 985 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 6: Honestly, if we believe in what our metrics are saying. 986 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 6: If I'm Indiana, I don't know if I'm playing Rurker, 987 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 6: that's Ohio State. We've seen what happened to Florida State 988 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 6: last year. 989 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 4: Jordan Travis. 990 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 6: What could keep Indiana out of this getting her quarterback hurt? 991 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 6: We've seen it happened to Florida State later. 992 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 3: Okay, I think I don't know where the rest of 993 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 3: the clip is. Joey okay, because we kind of had 994 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 3: some audio stuff there. Joey Galloway was taking the parallel 995 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 3: of Florida State made the playoff last year. If Jordan 996 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 3: Travis doesn't get hurt, and if you believe what the 997 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 3: committee is He's basically doing this to be argumentative. If 998 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 3: you believe what the committee is saying, and that Indiana 999 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: is indeed the number five team in the country, and 1000 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 3: they are worthy of being the number five team in 1001 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 3: the country, then they should sit out Curtis Roake, their quarterback, 1002 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: who has been hurt earlier in this season, take the 1003 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: l against Ohio State and still make the playoff and 1004 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: have a healthy quarterback. This is what happens. You have 1005 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: an hour long show built around rankings that are completely 1006 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 3: arbitrary and nonsense and don't change. So that's your setup. 1007 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 3: That's why that that's I think you just be an 1008 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 3: argumentative Finemb. 1009 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 4: This is idiocy. Indiana is a basketball school, or at 1010 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 4: least it was for a great long while. This is 1011 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 4: and correct me if I'm wrong, but Nate Fine doesn't 1012 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 4: go wrong. I don't go so far into the archives. 1013 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 4: I can tell you that in my conscious life, this 1014 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 4: is the best Indiana football team ever. 1015 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the entire list of Indiana football 1016 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 3: teams they've been playing football over one hundred years, that 1017 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 3: has won ten games this one. 1018 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 4: Thank you. The notion so, I of course not wrong. 1019 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 4: The notion that you have a chance to go run 1020 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 4: the table and beat Ohio State with the best team 1021 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 4: your school's ever had, and you're like, Eh, we're gonna 1022 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 4: sit our quarterback because we really don't care. Get out 1023 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 4: of here. It almost feels like Joey Gallaway went to 1024 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 4: Ohio State or something. Oh wait, he did what an outrageous, 1025 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 4: outrageous comment. Joe I could not be more against it 1026 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 4: if I tried. 1027 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 3: I think he I know what he was doing. So 1028 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: he was doing this to be argumentative for the sake 1029 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 3: of being argumentative and to say, well, the committee. Basically, 1030 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 3: what he's saying is, there is no scenario where Indiana 1031 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: is the fifth best team in the country based on 1032 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 3: their resume. None. Their resume is not much different than Armies. 1033 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 3: Armies ranked nineteenth, they're both undefeated. So what he's saying is, 1034 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 3: if the committee really believes that Indiana is a number 1035 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 3: five team in the country, then it shouldn't matter how 1036 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 3: they play against Ohio State and they should still get 1037 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 3: in the playoff. That's what he was doing. He's doing 1038 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 3: it all to prove this point of Indiana's over overrated. 1039 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1040 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 4: I don't care what he's doing. I don't care. I 1041 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 4: don't like it. Indiana. I'll tell you this dream, big. 1042 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 3: Baby Indiana is a fourteen point dog. I'm guessing it 1043 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: goes over two scores by Saturday, but it's fourteen and 1044 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 3: a half by the time they kick start at ten 1045 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 3: and a half. It's now thirteen and a half. It 1046 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 3: is that is crazy, it'll go keep going. 1047 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 2: Uh. 1048 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 3: Some of that is the amount of money that's bet 1049 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 3: on the Buckeye, so that's there's usually a point and 1050 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: a half. They're kind of like the Lakers or the 1051 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 3: Cowboys in that regard. But I do think they have 1052 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: to be competitive, and I do think that it has 1053 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 3: to be a close game. I think if they get routed, 1054 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 3: because their schedule is one hundred and sixteenth, I want 1055 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: to say in the country, if they get routed, then 1056 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 3: I think a two loss SEC will usurp them. Yes, well, 1057 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 3: that's what That's where I was going. Oh, go ahead, sorry, 1058 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 3: Oh you're good. There was up. Oh oh I see it. 1059 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 3: I see it. I think we're good if they lose. 1060 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 3: If they lose thirty five twenty four and it's competitive, 1061 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 3: they're in. Then there, then I think they'll be in 1062 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: because their best metric will then be a loss to 1063 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 3: Ohio State, which is the exact same metric the Penn 1064 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 3: State has and right now, the exact same metric that 1065 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: Texas has. Texas's best win is a loss to Georgia. 1066 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 3: So and they're right third at the end of the day, Buck, 1067 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 3: guys need to get out of the gate early here enough. 1068 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: They're only done in the Oregon game. 1069 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, next, second down. 1070 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 3: This happened last night, drawing a lot of conversation down 1071 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 3: in Columbus. I know that certain shows, certain programs. Does 1072 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 3: Ohio State Center Seth McLoughlin's injury change the Buckey's outlook 1073 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,280 Speaker 3: not for this game, but for the remainder of the season. 1074 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 3: Got hurt last night in practice? Is it a torn achilles? 1075 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 3: Torn achilles? He's done. 1076 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 4: Let me tell you it's on turf. 1077 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 3: So then everybody's complaining about the turf, and which is 1078 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 3: crazy because they have they have two practice grass fields 1079 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 3: that they could have been on. I don't know if 1080 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't Maybe it was raining down there last night. 1081 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. May I yes, please? Sorry, sorry, Nate. 1082 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 4: If losing your center derails your organization, you're not a 1083 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 4: serious organization. Period. 1084 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 3: If losing your center, and losing what is now three 1085 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 3: fifty of your intended offensive line has happened. It starts 1086 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 3: to become an issue. Your center from last year is 1087 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 3: now playing left guard. Carson Heinzman is now playing left 1088 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 3: guard to make up for Simmons, who they lost in 1089 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 3: the earlier in the seasons. They hadn't moved a guard 1090 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 3: to tackle. 1091 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 4: So this isn't ballet. This is an organization that spent 1092 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy four million dollars on the roster. 1093 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,720 Speaker 4: You should be two deep, three deep at every position. 1094 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: What sucks for the kid is this the kid they 1095 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 3: got from Alabama, as you know, I know, and he 1096 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 3: was he had the snap troubles against Michigan last year 1097 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 3: in the semifinal game, and he's fixed all of that 1098 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 3: and he's he's a Remington semifinalist. He's quite good. It 1099 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 3: all goes to hell. He's probably been a mid a 1100 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 3: mid not first round, a mid round pick, maybe the 1101 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 3: first center off the board, and now that's probably all lost. 1102 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 3: So I feel bad for him. I think what they're 1103 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 3: going to do is they have a Padia kid who's 1104 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 3: going to move to center. They'll keep him there. They'll 1105 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 3: keep Ensman at left guard. Let me ask you this. 1106 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 4: This guy, yeah, or Luke Whippler. 1107 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 3: Whippler's a damn good center. They've had a bunch of them. 1108 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 3: I mean, Billy Price is a great center. When he 1109 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 3: was there, didn't turn out. Pat Elfline was a very 1110 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 3: good sentence and. 1111 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 4: He tear his pecket like the cabin. 1112 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 3: He was the first one on the bench. We were 1113 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,760 Speaker 3: there the first round. Yeah, he's a first round. 1114 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf was an attention getter. 1115 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 3: Yes he was. 1116 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah he was, by the way, but come on, 1117 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 4: you're too deep. I would imagine that you've got backup 1118 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 4: offensive line. They're four stars and five stars. 1119 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 3: It's their weakest position group is the offensive line. I 1120 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 3: don't I don't think it'll be a problem this week 1121 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 3: or next against Michigan, but in the Oregon game, I 1122 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 3: think it would. It could be a. 1123 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 4: Propismant Will Howard, and I don't know that he is. 1124 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 3: I don't. 1125 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 4: I don't know that when you're going to invest three 1126 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty four million in a roster, if you 1127 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 4: skimp at quarterback. And I feel like they got a 1128 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 4: good quarterback, but they did not go out and get 1129 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 4: as elite as elite can be. 1130 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 3: Uh So, like the guys that are out there were 1131 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 3: cam Ward and Gabriel and him, there are a few 1132 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 3: others that were out there as well. Cam Ward was 1133 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 3: just gonna go to the highest bidder and they were 1134 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 3: gonna get in the bidding war for him. 1135 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 4: You're Ohio State, what are you talking about? 1136 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: Well, they also have everybody else they're paying in the 1137 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,479 Speaker 3: quarterback room. I'm telling you, like people think it's fine 1138 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 3: that it's infinite. 1139 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 4: Of course it's not, and it's not because they're already 1140 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 4: hitting that best hit up everybody. 1141 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 3: So Will's been really good. I mean he's eighth in 1142 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 3: the country in passing efficiency, so he's been really good. Fine, 1143 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 3: bomb's not buying any he listen, not buying it. 1144 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is this, if you need 1145 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 4: him to go, your guys are down six of the 1146 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 4: National Championship game and you got to go eighty yards, 1147 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 4: you're fifty to fifty confident at best. I think he's 1148 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 4: played better than that. But yeah, nobody's at the table. 1149 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 4: They're famished. 1150 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,959 Speaker 3: Come on next, no tables, Tony down. 1151 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 5: So you're killing with these numbers and the money man, 1152 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 5: what do you mean he's only twenty million. 1153 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 3: That's a life true. 1154 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 4: Your number is more laffable than mine. 1155 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 3: Trust me, that's alleged. 1156 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 4: Trust me. 1157 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 3: Do you think they're down? And I think might have 1158 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 3: been worked into a shoot factor fiction. Colorado will end 1159 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 3: up with a first round by in the college football 1160 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 3: Who Colorado Colorado? 1161 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,399 Speaker 4: Colorado? No, they won't. 1162 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 3: No b YU is going to hang on. 1163 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 4: They lost their margin of air of They had a nice, comfortable, 1164 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 4: cozy little margin that they've blown now. But I think 1165 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 4: they beat Arizona State the Sun Devils and they go on. 1166 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 3: Two factors that make this tough. Number one. The ACC 1167 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 3: winners will both just have one loss, whether it's should 1168 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 3: provided Miami can get there, it'll be Miami or SMU. 1169 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 3: Colorado has two losses. The other issue is right now 1170 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 3: they have Boise State ahead of them. Now Colorado plays. 1171 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: I think Colorado is going to have their hands well. 1172 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 3: This week they're at Kansas Kansas. Last two weeks they 1173 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 3: beat Iowa State, they beat Boise State. Those two teams 1174 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 3: are both undefeated in conference with I'm sorry b YU 1175 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 3: and Kansas beat BYU and Iowa State. Good catcher to you, 1176 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 3: Nate and fact checking from five. Good job to you. 1177 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 3: So they but Boise seats ahead of them right now, 1178 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 3: So that's the other tricky part. Right now, Boise State 1179 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 3: would get a bye if it holds now, but Colorado 1180 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 3: will have a chance to impress. And obviously, if you're 1181 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: the committee and you can get Colorado into the round 1182 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 3: of the semi final, let's a win television wise. Next 1183 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 3: fourth down, this is mainly for Uncle bo compliments of 1184 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 3: the g Man. But we're gonna go to Nate fine 1185 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 3: Bomb first because I want to know, you know, since 1186 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 3: he is the ultimate in college football now. 1187 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 4: Everything, by the way, I takes them pretty good, pretty good. 1188 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 3: You're so far, You're so good. Where's Tony. It's fourth down? Now? Though, 1189 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 3: it's brawl. Got to be better than the Browns on 1190 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 3: fourth down last week. It's brawl of the wild week. 1191 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 3: That's right, X factors and a score. Montana Montana State. 1192 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 3: The rivalry. Nate fine Bomb. 1193 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 4: Montana State minus seven. 1194 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 3: This one's in Bozeman this year. If you ever go 1195 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 3: to it's an awesome game. They're both ranked. Montana States 1196 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 3: I think ranks second in the country. Montana's usually right, 1197 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 3: I think they've lost three three games or something. They're 1198 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 3: probably in the teens as much. No, I'm not wrong. No, 1199 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 3: I would say Montana State's definitely favored by at least 1200 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 3: seven is my guess. But it's usually a great game 1201 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 3: if you have a chance to go to it. My 1202 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 3: brother went to mont go to the University mon the game. 1203 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 3: When it's in Missoula, it's just a cooler stadium. It's 1204 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 3: in a it's a gate hellgate canyon. It's just awesome. 1205 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 3: Bozeman's a valley, so it's it's a cool like the 1206 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 3: vista's cool, but it's not like directly in a canyon 1207 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 3: the way that it is a Missoula. Tommy a Lot 1208 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 3: quarterback Montana State. He's been incredible. They run it like crazy. 1209 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 3: They got a guy who used to coach at North 1210 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 3: Kota State who's a head coach there. They run that 1211 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 3: option and they run run, run, So it'll be a 1212 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 3: fun game. It's a great one. I've been to it 1213 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 3: at thirty degrees below zero air temp. That's a rag 1214 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 3: that happens on the rag game day. Was there a 1215 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 3: couple years ago and it was Yeah, a gate thirty 1216 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 3: can't find a score? Might be? Is that a straight up? Uh, 1217 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. It's 1218 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 3: a fun one though. Montana State minus seven, Yeah, I 1219 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 3: like it. I like it. That's to throw the record 1220 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 3: out though you never know what's going to happen in 1221 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 3: that thing, truly. 1222 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 4: Can I just say this all I hear about everywhere 1223 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 4: I go, especially on my program in the South, and 1224 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 4: we even heard yesterday from Jameis Winston saying that, you know, 1225 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 4: Auburn Alabama is the greatest rivalry and you know the SEC, 1226 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 4: this SEC, that folks. The fact of the matter right 1227 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 4: now that four of the top five teams in the 1228 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 4: rankings are from the Big ten. How about a little 1229 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 4: respect for the Big ten? SEC schmes cec. That also 1230 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 4: being said, I'm not sure Indiana being. 1231 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 3: Said you're listening to fifty ESPN Cleveland, a good Karma 1232 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 3: brand station. 1233 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Indiana wouldn't be would be ranked 1234 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 4: in the top five in the SEC if you just 1235 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 4: were putting them lining them up right now, even though 1236 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 4: they're right and the here number five overall. 1237 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 3: That's that's Galloway's pro If if Indiana played Georgia's schedule 1238 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 3: and they had to play Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, Clemson, and 1239 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 3: Ole miss. They probably lost all five. 1240 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 4: Right ahead of them all my friends. 1241 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,439 Speaker 3: That's that's the issue, So you can't. That's the problem 1242 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 3: with trying to do this is that they set this 1243 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 3: system up and they're not They're not like cop guys. 1244 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, bucks will be fine. Bucks are gonna be 1245 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 3: just fine. Like asses. 1246 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 4: Producer Kevin's like ass. It takes everything. 1247 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 3: He's very big. Bugs. You gotta live, you gotta bleed 1248 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 3: that scarlet and gray uh a Browns fans. 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We start with our game Pittsburgh 1275 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 3: at Cleveland on Thursday night football. Al kirk Kirk's new dog, 1276 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 3: Kaylee Hardley. I'm surprised he's calling the dog Peter, not 1277 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 3: Pete or Pete. 1278 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 4: Pete's the bird from dumb and Demmer. 1279 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 3: That's why I would call him pet That's a good name. Uh. 1280 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 4: I've seen this one, okay, so then you get it, well, 1281 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 4: then you should know it. Steelers minus three and a 1282 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 4: half it's Steelers minus four. 1283 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 3: I think what we should do on the ones you've seen, 1284 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 3: you have to should get him exact. But that's two 1285 00:59:53,560 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 3: different sources. He so excited and I couldn't see his No, 1286 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 3: you got it, Yeah, it's uh, it's Steelers minus four, 1287 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 3: Steelers minus four. 1288 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 2: All right. 1289 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 3: On to Sunday NFC North. It is Minnesota at Chicago, 1290 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 3: Minnesota at Chicago with a Kevin Coogler, Moose Johnson. 1291 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 4: Laura Oakum, Vikings minus four, got it? 1292 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 3: Oh baby, minus three and a half, two and zero? 1293 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 2: All right? 1294 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Is Detroit Lions at the Colts, said Kenny Albert Jonathan 1295 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 3: Vilma production on the call for the Fox Broadcasting Company. 1296 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 3: Not a lot of great games this week, by the. 1297 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 4: Way, So in Detroit, this one to me would be this. 1298 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Is what happens during the bye week. It was all trash. Yeah, 1299 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 3: games and good everybody's off and you got Thanksgiving and 1300 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 3: so that's why this is going on. 1301 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 4: I think in if this game we're in Detroit, I 1302 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 4: think it's fourteen. I think that's where they're at now. 1303 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 3: So I would agree with you. 1304 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 4: Three for the road, maybe two and a half for 1305 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 4: the road. So we've kind of come settled on. 1306 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 3: Is that what our discussion was like, it seems to 1307 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 3: be where we're at. 1308 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, put us at eleven and a half, which means 1309 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: either I'd get it at eleven or twelve. 1310 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 3: Are you talking into the microphone? Thought, little thought? 1311 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, ten and a half, eleven and a half. I 1312 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 4: don't think it could. Twelve would be too weird of 1313 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 4: a number. I'm gonna go with Detroit minus eleven, Detroit 1314 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 4: minus seven. Excuse me? 1315 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I don't get that at all. Yeah, 1316 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 3: for the cheaters and the comments there my touchdown? Uh, 1317 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 3: Patriots at Dolphin a Spiro Didas at a Marcoletta event, 1318 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 3: Pats at Dolphins, Drake May and the boys. 1319 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 4: So in in Miami, Dolph, I'm trying to pull up 1320 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 4: this last week. So they were seven and a half 1321 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 4: against Vegas. I don't know if the Patriots are much 1322 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 4: better than Vegas. 1323 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 3: I do think they're better than Vegas. 1324 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm gonna go. 1325 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Miami minus seven. Nailed it. Buccaneers at 1326 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 3: g Man and Andrew Catalan, Tiki Barber, Jason mccordy. 1327 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 4: Production, Tommy DeVito, that that clown show. 1328 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 3: Do you see the agent's back of course, easily one 1329 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,439 Speaker 3: of the top five most awkward appearances on this show 1330 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 3: with Orio with us hating on that guy, hating on 1331 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 3: that guy, hating on us for asking the question. Yeah, 1332 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 3: trying to have a little fun, Mike, Mike, all right, 1333 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 3: Bucks Cancer. 1334 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 4: I feel like in Tampa this is Bucks minus ten. 1335 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 4: So this is what I did last week. It's helped me. 1336 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Bucks minus. 1337 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,919 Speaker 3: Seven and a half, Bucks minus five and a half, 1338 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 3: which I like that a lot from the Tampa perspective. 1339 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,959 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys and Cooper Rush at the commis Commedi's minus 1340 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 3: seven and a half. Joe Davis, greg Olsen on the call, 1341 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 3: it is Commedi's minus ten. That one through. I thought 1342 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 3: that one. 1343 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 4: We're back, thought that one through. 1344 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 3: I think that makes sense. They're coming off the by. 1345 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 3: Dallas got bombed last time out on Monday, weren't they 1346 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 3: did they lose to Oh they played Thursday against Philly 1347 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 3: against Philly, so extended for them ten. Yeah, that feels 1348 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 3: right to me. Basically Dallas's realities Chiefs at Panthers, Chiefs 1349 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 3: at Panthers, Eroin Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan. 1350 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 4: Washburn on that one on seat By the way, Kansas 1351 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 4: City minus seven and a half. 1352 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 3: Kansas City minus a eleven. How that's god. 1353 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't beat anybody by that. 1354 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 3: No, that's got to be as bad of a game 1355 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 3: as those guys have called Chiefs at Panthers. Yeah, yeah, 1356 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't. Again, I understand it's Patrick Mahomes, so you're 1357 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 3: gonna have viewers, But come on, I just think there 1358 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 3: are games and Charles Davis and Washburn. You gotta be going, really, 1359 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 3: here's what you trust we got And the fact is 1360 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 3: that actually it might be because this is the CBS 1361 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 3: slate at one o'clock, Patriots at Dolphins, Bucks at Giants, 1362 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 3: Chiefs at Panthers, and then our last one, Titans at Texans. 1363 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 3: It's garbage. It's a garbage slate. Titans at Texans. 1364 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 4: Texans minus seven and a half. 1365 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 3: Got it, Texans minus eight. Good job to you. I 1366 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 3: mean it's bad. Four o'clock. I mean it's so bad. 1367 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 3: This is the week that they told uh, your boy 1368 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 3: Romo and it's just sit this one out. Well, you 1369 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 3: get ready for Thanksgiving, take the week off, you know, 1370 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 3: to do two games next week. It would have been 1371 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 3: a good one. That's America's game of the week. But 1372 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,919 Speaker 3: we start with Broncos at Raiders. Kevin Harlan Trent Green 1373 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 3: on the call Broncos at Raiders. Hmmm, this feels Vegas. 1374 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if Denver is ready to be a 1375 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 4: seven point favorite on the road. Denver minus five and 1376 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 4: a half. 1377 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 3: Got it exactly. What's his record right here? And four? 1378 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 3: This is the best one of the lot the Niners 1379 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 3: of the brutal stretch of games to finish, they're at 1380 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Packers at Bills, back to back at Packers first Burkhart, 1381 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:42,439 Speaker 3: Brady Andrews, Ronaldi, Green Bay minus two and a half, 1382 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 3: got it exactly. I feel like, in a way, Vegas 1383 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 3: can't quit the Niners. No, they just can't quit them, 1384 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 3: Like they just know they're better than they're playing, because 1385 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 3: there's not much reason for them to be two and 1386 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 3: a half. Only be two and a half. 1387 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 4: Green Bay hasn't been exactly light in the world hold 1388 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 4: on fire. 1389 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 3: But I mean, what's the Niners like, what's there? What's 1390 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 3: their last? 1391 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 4: That's the problem is they're just so hurt. 1392 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 3: They're so beat up and battered. All right, So you're 1393 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 3: six and four your cruising cards at Seahawks, Cardinals at 1394 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 3: Seahawks Adam m in Mark Sanchez on that it's a 1395 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 3: big game. Actually, this is actually a good game. This 1396 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 3: was Seattle. 1397 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 4: I could just as easily see Arizona being favored by 1398 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 4: the same a mount. But I still think Seattle will 1399 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 4: get will be favored. Seattle minus two. 1400 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 3: Mm hm, Seattle minus one. Oh, just missed it all right, 1401 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 3: We're into primetime now. Sunday Night Football. Yeah, Sunday football. 1402 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 3: Eagles at Rammitt, Eagles at Rammitt, Eagles are playing great football. 1403 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 3: Eagles mass three, got it exactly, Eagles minus three clinched 1404 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 3: it five only Monday Night Football. Another good one. Ravens 1405 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 3: at Chargers, Buck Aikman Harball Bowl, Manning Cast Harbor. 1406 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 4: Bowl, Chargers minus one and a half. 1407 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Ravens minus three. 1408 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 4: They're not get any respect. 1409 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 3: Didn't matter, didn't matter. You want it to be one 1410 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 3: of the Uh the Harball Bowl. The last I was 1411 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 3: at that Super Bowl. Knew you were there too. One 1412 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 3: of the most awkward family reactions of people who are 1413 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 3: family mabors who pretend who seem like they enjoy each 1414 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 3: other's company was Dad, Jim and uh and John at 1415 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 3: a press conference with Goodell in New Orleans. 1416 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh doesn't call that time out, run down, the 1417 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 4: Sidland call it time out. The Niners score on the 1418 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 4: re option, and they win that Super Bowl. 1419 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 3: Yes they do, Yes they do. 1420 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 4: I wonder if he thinks about that. 1421 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what that guy that's a crazy sliding doors. 1422 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah if that, because he probably doesn't go to Michigan, 1423 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 3: then Browns fans and are Huney and Bank feel quicker 1424 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 3: on game day with express access presented by Verizon. Also new, 1425 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 3: this year's select concession stands will offer express access presented 1426 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 3: by bud Light en Roll for free. 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Keep it Twisted, 1439 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 3: Cleveland brook You thank you so much for the time. 1440 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,840 Speaker 3: This has been one heck of a season already in Pittsburgh, 1441 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 3: and I think while a lot of people you never 1442 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 3: don't have expectations over there, this has been something else entirely. 1443 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 3: How do you chronicle what these first ten games have 1444 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 3: been like and how this team got to eight and 1445 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 3: two to. 1446 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 7: Begin with, Well, it really feels like this the Steelers 1447 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 7: who've already played two seasons, or at least it feels 1448 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 7: like two acts in this one season, because we started 1449 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 7: out with Justin Fields at quarterback, and you know, they 1450 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 7: do pretty well through six games four and two, although 1451 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 7: those two losses are pretty confounding now when you look 1452 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 7: at the state of the teams, both the Cowboys and 1453 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 7: the Colts, and then Russell Wilson takes over after the 1454 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 7: Raiders game, and now we've got another iteration of this 1455 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 7: Steelers team. I can tell you as a beat writer, 1456 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 7: it's kind of difficult when you're planning ahead, trying to 1457 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 7: figure out what stories you want to tell later in 1458 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 7: the season. That could require some more reporting, and sometimes 1459 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,720 Speaker 7: I don't. I still feel like I don't quite know 1460 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,679 Speaker 7: what this team is, at least offensively, but I can't 1461 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 7: tell you that defensively, this is a very sound team, 1462 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 7: a very deep defense, and that was the difference in 1463 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,560 Speaker 7: their win against the Ravens. They got contributions up and 1464 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 7: down the depth chart, and this defense plus Chris Boswell, 1465 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 7: I think is really what has carried them to this 1466 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 7: point where they're what eight and two going into this week, 1467 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 7: which I can't say that this is what I envisioned 1468 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 7: at this point in the season. 1469 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 4: What you can envision is a dominant defense, and that's 1470 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 4: what the Steelers team has been. It seems like forever, 1471 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 4: obviously with tj Y cam Heyward help this year dominating. 1472 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 4: But you know, number two points per game, Number four 1473 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 4: against the run, Number eight in total yards, Number six 1474 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 4: with interceptions. They have best plus minus, second best plus 1475 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 4: minus in the league. They're top ten on third downs, 1476 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 4: top ten in the red zone. How does this team 1477 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 4: do it every single year? And it finds it seems like, 1478 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 4: you know, you had Patrick Queen, he's playing great. You 1479 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 4: find a guy like a Beanie Bishop who's got three picks. 1480 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 4: They just constantly are reloading and just being excellent at it. 1481 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 4: What do you make of this defense in the fact 1482 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 4: that it's just year after year, that's something they can 1483 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 4: always hang their hat on. 1484 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Steelers Trump has been really good 1485 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 7: at identifying defensive talent, and granted there have been Devin Bush, 1486 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 7: Terrell and Mint, largely, I would categorize it as in 1487 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 7: terms of just being the first round talent that this 1488 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 7: front office in scouting staff has been really good at 1489 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 7: not only identifying players in the draft that may be 1490 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 7: undervalued by other teams, a guy like Peyton Wilson who 1491 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 7: they drafted this last year and have that interception against 1492 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 7: the Ravens Beanie Ship went undrafted, but they're also I think, 1493 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 7: finding really good value in free agency in adding Patrick Queen, who, 1494 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,679 Speaker 7: as he told us last week, didn't get an offer 1495 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 7: back from the Ravens, and the guy like Deshaun Elliott 1496 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 7: who really got overshadowed in free agency by the Queen addition, 1497 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 7: by the additions of the quarterbacks, but he's been really solid. 1498 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 7: Dante Jackson has been up and down. He's been hurt 1499 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,360 Speaker 7: a little bit, but you know, at the time it 1500 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 7: kind of felt like, I can't believe this team is 1501 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 7: trading away a wide receiver when they don't have much 1502 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 7: depth in the room and getting back a corner that 1503 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 7: was not necessarily a hot name, but he's been, I mean, 1504 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 7: pretty solid. I just think that this team is very 1505 01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 7: convicted in the guys that they choose. They are really 1506 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 7: sticking with guys that they see have fundamental talents and good, 1507 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 7: strong foundations, and then they're just I think, sticking with 1508 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 7: the types of players they like to that's really gritty, 1509 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 7: defensive guys that played with a chip on their shoulder, 1510 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 7: and that's how you end up having a defense now 1511 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,759 Speaker 7: that is kind of made in Mike Tomlin's image. 1512 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,640 Speaker 3: Talking to book prior, ESPN's NFL Nation writer at Pittsburgh, 1513 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 3: you mentioned Tomlin there at the end and in his 1514 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 3: image in your time covering this operation, and I realize 1515 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 3: we're a little more than halfway home on the season. 1516 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 3: Is this the best job he's done. 1517 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 7: Oh, that's a tough question. 1518 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 5: It is. 1519 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 7: I think it's tough to say because he also got 1520 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,639 Speaker 7: this got the team to five hundred when Deck Hodges 1521 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 7: and Mason Rudolph were his quarterbacks, and last year he 1522 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 7: got the team again into the playoffs with can You Picket? 1523 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 7: Mitch Trubisky and Mason Rudolph. So he's had some really 1524 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 7: impressive seasons, but a lot of those have been correcting 1525 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 7: the stakes later in the season and pulling out these 1526 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 7: improbable seasons of finishing above five hundred with some laughs 1527 01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 7: atch efforts. This has been the most impressive first half 1528 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 7: of a coaching job that I've seen. I've been in 1529 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh since twenty nineteen. This to me is I think 1530 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 7: the most consistent a team has been. Even in twenty twenty. 1531 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 7: I believe it was that the Steelers started off ten 1532 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 7: or eleven and zero that didn't feel the same as 1533 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 7: this one. This one just feels more dominant. In me, 1534 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 7: it's because this defense has been so consistent, or Chris 1535 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 7: Boswell has been so consistent. But I think that that 1536 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin has done a really good job this year 1537 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,600 Speaker 7: of not getting behind and having to play catchup, that 1538 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 7: he really set the tone with this team. And at 1539 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 7: this point, I mean, it's crazy that they do their 1540 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 7: own destiny for the number one scene that in the 1541 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 7: AFC understanding. Of course, there's still lots of football to 1542 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 7: be played, lots of AFC North football to be played. 1543 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 7: But I feel like at this point in the season 1544 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 7: has been looking at, you know, the chances of the 1545 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 7: Steelers make the playoffs, and it's hovering around like five percent, 1546 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 7: and then they end up pulling it out. So it's 1547 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 7: definitely a different season, and I think one of his 1548 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 7: better coaching jobs. 1549 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 4: You make a tough decision. Justin Field's playing well, you 1550 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 4: bring in Russell Wilson. What has he given them that 1551 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 4: Justin Fields was not giving them well? 1552 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,560 Speaker 7: I think, especially through the first two games, it was 1553 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 7: the deep ball. Not just that he was connecting with 1554 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 7: receivers on the deep ball, but that he was taking 1555 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 7: chances and throwing it down the field and pushing the 1556 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 7: offense down that way. I think, stretching the field, opening 1557 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 7: things up for the run game. And even though his 1558 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 7: passes maybe weren't as crisp as you'd like to see them, 1559 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 7: more as accurate, his receivers were able to at least 1560 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 7: make an adjustment and come down with some big catches. 1561 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 7: The last two weeks that has not necessarily been the 1562 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,600 Speaker 7: same case. You've seen some more turnovers. He had the 1563 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 7: interception targeting Darnelle Washington in the end zone against the 1564 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 7: Ravens that was not a great play. He hasn't been 1565 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 7: as accurate with the deep ball, and I think that 1566 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 7: that's thing had to trickle down effect of seeing you know, 1567 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 7: the run game get bottled up more. They're not able 1568 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 7: to score points. They've really struggled in the red zone 1569 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 7: with the red zone efficiency. But I think at the 1570 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 7: core of putting Russell Wilson back in now that he's healthy, 1571 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 7: is that he's willing to take those shots and willing 1572 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 7: to stretch the field and get the wide receivers and 1573 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 7: tight ends more involved. He just needs to do it 1574 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 7: more consistently the way that he did against the Giants 1575 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 7: before the vibe. 1576 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the thing that that also is just 1577 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 3: from Afar that's been pretty amazing about that that whole 1578 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 3: switch from Wilson to fields is it feels from the 1579 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 3: outside looking in Brooke, it feels like from a room perspective, 1580 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,720 Speaker 3: it was handled very well. How did they pull that off? 1581 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 3: Because again, like this is zero sum and you want 1582 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 3: to win, and you mentioned how Russ played early and 1583 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 3: Russ has got different reputation in terms of around the league, 1584 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 3: how he is in the room. How did how is 1585 01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,400 Speaker 3: that all played out, and what can you tell us 1586 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 3: as someone who's actually in the room from time to time. 1587 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I do think that the entire locker room handled 1588 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,720 Speaker 7: the switch switch really well, and so did the quarterbacks. 1589 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 7: And I think that that's because Mike Tomlin set the 1590 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 7: expectation early on coming out of camp that Russell Wilson 1591 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 7: was going to be the starter, even when he was 1592 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 7: dealing with this CAF injury. Russ is the starter. It 1593 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 7: gets aggravated, of course, and then that prompts Justin Fields 1594 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 7: to take over the starting job. But at no point, 1595 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 7: I think, did he say, look, this job is going 1596 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 7: to be Justin's until you know, we feel like he 1597 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 7: messes up enough that then we have to put Russ 1598 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 7: back in. I think the expectation was always that Russell 1599 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 7: Wilson was going to get a chance at being the 1600 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 7: starting quarterback, at moving back into the role that Mike 1601 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 7: Tomlin said that he won coming out of training camp 1602 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 7: for the role that he had the pole position in 1603 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 7: when he signed in Pittsburgh. And so I think because 1604 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 7: of that, there's a lot of transparency around the decision. 1605 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 7: And I also think there's a lot of maturity between 1606 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,560 Speaker 7: Justin Fields and Russell Wilson to handle this kind of 1607 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 7: switch that I think that it just really speaks to 1608 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,519 Speaker 7: both of their character, especially to Justin Field, who he 1609 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 7: owned it when it was it became clear that it 1610 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 7: was going to be Russell Wilson to start against the Jets. 1611 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:27,839 Speaker 7: You know, Justin Field said, look, I play to deserve 1612 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,160 Speaker 7: this job. And whether or not that's that's true necessarily, 1613 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 7: I still think Russell Wilson is always going to get 1614 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 7: a chance because neither one of those guys are under 1615 01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,120 Speaker 7: contract for next year. The Steelers have to figure out 1616 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 7: what they have in both. I thought it was still 1617 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 7: just a very measured take from Fields, and I think 1618 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,640 Speaker 7: that he still believes that he has a future in 1619 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,760 Speaker 7: this league where he can be a starting quarterback. But 1620 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 7: right now that job is Russ's and he's got some 1621 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 7: packages for him. We saw him play a couple snaps 1622 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,879 Speaker 7: in the last game, may see him more on Thursday. 1623 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 7: But I think that that they are just really handling it. 1624 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,440 Speaker 7: Like pros. 1625 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 4: Sum up the George Pickens experience. 1626 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:11,240 Speaker 7: For me, I don't know that you can it is. 1627 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 7: It's a little bit of a rollercoaster. You get everything 1628 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 7: from explicit EyeBlack messages to crazy circus catches, to instances 1629 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 7: where he is body slamming a defensive back when the 1630 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 7: defensive back is trying to block him out after an interception, 1631 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,599 Speaker 7: and it seems like he wildly overreacts. What I can 1632 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,360 Speaker 7: say is that George Pickens is a very passionate player. 1633 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 7: He is a very emotion player, and there is a 1634 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 7: lot of good that comes with that, and there's a 1635 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,760 Speaker 7: lot of bad that comes with that. But right now, 1636 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 7: I think the good outweighs the bad because if you 1637 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,679 Speaker 7: get him going early, he is a very reliable receiver 1638 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 7: because of some of these crazy catches he can make. 1639 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,760 Speaker 7: I think just the biggest thing for him is that 1640 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 7: he has got to be self aware, not only in 1641 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,799 Speaker 7: doing things like the eye black message and body slamming 1642 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 7: the defensive back and getting fined for that and things 1643 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 7: like that, but also in making sure where his feed are. 1644 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 7: He's had a couple catches this year and throughout the 1645 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 7: course of his career where he's had a foot out 1646 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 7: of bounds or not gotten that second foot down, and 1647 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 7: I think that that's the thing that's going to take 1648 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 7: him from being a very very good receiver to being 1649 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 7: a top tier great receiver that this team can consistently 1650 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 7: depend on. But I do think that he's trending in 1651 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 7: the right direction. 1652 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 4: Brook. 1653 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 3: I'll get you out of here on this one. I 1654 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 3: look at this Pittsburgh schedule you mentioned controller own destiny. 1655 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 3: They do so because, of course, they play the Ravens again, 1656 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,439 Speaker 3: who they've already beaten once, Bengals, Eagles, they play the Chiefs. 1657 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 3: This back end is big time difficult for them in 1658 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 3: terms of trying to keep pace atop the AFC. From 1659 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 3: that perspective, this three game stretch that they are in 1660 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,639 Speaker 3: now starting tomorrow night here at Cleveland at Cincinnati, Brown's 1661 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 3: at home, critical obviously for Pittsburgh if they're gonna try 1662 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 3: and track down that number one seed. 1663 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, especially when you consider that this three game 1664 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,280 Speaker 7: schedule is this three game stretch is then backed up 1665 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,599 Speaker 7: with they play what three games in ten days right 1666 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 7: around Christmas. It's gonna be a gauntlet because it's not 1667 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 7: just the teams that you're playing, but the frequency. You've 1668 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 7: already been talking about in the locker room this week 1669 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 7: about preparing for teams on short week. But my goodness, 1670 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 7: you know, you get the mini guy coming off of 1671 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 7: this game, you better rest up as much as you 1672 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 7: can in the next couple of days after the Cleveland days, 1673 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,400 Speaker 7: and not overlook the Browns either, because as we know 1674 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 7: the Browns, what they beat the Ravens like this can 1675 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 7: still be a team that sneaks up on you. You 1676 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 7: can't take any team lightly, and I don't think the 1677 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,800 Speaker 7: Steelers will. But they've really got a set of tone 1678 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,599 Speaker 7: in this stretch to then be able to handle when 1679 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 7: opponents are tough and the schedule gets even tougher just 1680 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,799 Speaker 7: with the three games in December. 1681 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,600 Speaker 3: Brook thank you so much for your time. Greatly appreciate you. 1682 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,800 Speaker 7: Absolutely thanks guys. 1683 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,759 Speaker 3: That's Broke Prior, ESPN's NFL Nation writer for the Steelers, 1684 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 3: joining on the Twisty Hotline, brought to you by a 1685 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 3: Twisty hardic official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. So, 1686 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 3: following that stretch that I just mentioned, Z they go 1687 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 3: at Philly at Baltimore, Kansas City at home. The Eagles 1688 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,599 Speaker 3: game is on December to heart, and then it's Kansas 1689 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 3: City in Pittsburgh on Christmas Day. So it's those three 1690 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 3: games in ten days. 1691 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's tough, but that's why they've done such 1692 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 4: a good job of building themselves this cushion. 1693 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna make the playoffs. Well, no, 1694 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 3: for sure, but like just to the one seed seems 1695 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 3: so distant for them. It's gonna be tough based on 1696 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:49,759 Speaker 3: that schedule. 1697 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 4: Agreed. But I mean when we all kind of were 1698 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 4: going into this season, the fact that they'd be sitting 1699 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 4: here where they are is not really what many people 1700 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 4: predicted for this division. So tip your captain them. They 1701 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 4: know how to win, period, not always pretty, don't blow 1702 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 4: a lot of teams out, but they know how to win. 1703 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 3: How much access will the Steelers allow hard knocks to 1704 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 3: have of their wide receiver? How much editorial? Really? Not 1705 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 3: too much editorial. The Steeler's ever done hard knocks? I 1706 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 3: don't know, think so. No, they've never let them in. 1707 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure Tomlin and company aren't pleased about it. No, 1708 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure no one in the division wants this. Nobody 1709 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 3: wants nobody wants this. 1710 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 4: No, this is not wanted. 1711 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,200 Speaker 3: I wonder how the NFL. I wonder how they got 1712 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 3: this greenlit. Roger is letting it happened. He's basically telling 1713 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 3: the teams you have to do this. No, no, I 1714 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 3: get it, but like, I'm surprised that the remember rock works. 1715 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,040 Speaker 4: For the team only a quarter of the you know 1716 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 4: what I mean you instead of if it was one team, 1717 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,600 Speaker 4: you only need to file fill up a quarter of 1718 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 4: the storylines. You're safe. 1719 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 3: Come on, hey, hey, did you see uh? Did you 1720 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:08,880 Speaker 3: see our guy IRV come on Coward talking about coach Prime? No, keV, 1721 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 3: I think I heard it on RBS. Do you have it? 1722 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 3: By chance? 1723 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,519 Speaker 5: I might, but we're having some computer issues so I'm 1724 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 5: not able to play back sound right now. 1725 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 3: So IRV is on Coward, yep, and he asked about 1726 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 3: coach Prime and give I'm not going to attempt to 1727 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 3: imitate because he's IRV, but essentially every level, on every 1728 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 3: level says that the one place that Dion would go 1729 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 3: in the NFL is Dallas if they ended up with 1730 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 3: Shad Door. And he goes, that's good sourced, so you 1731 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 3: gore you go, Yeah, yeah, I bet it is. The 1732 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,080 Speaker 3: funny thing about it, though, is the reason I bring 1733 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 3: it up is because I think sometimes athletes, when they 1734 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 3: get into this world of now we're on TV, I 1735 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 3: think sometimes they take more of a fantasy football up 1736 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 3: approach than even the people who do it all the time. Like, 1737 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,519 Speaker 3: it's borderline farcical to think that Dallas would take Shaudeur 1738 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 3: Sanders even if they picked number one overall, they just 1739 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,959 Speaker 3: gave Rescott the biggest deal in the history of football 1740 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,600 Speaker 3: at an hour before they kickoff of the season. They 1741 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 3: should here. They very well could take Trevis Iam maybe 1742 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,840 Speaker 3: done there and do that? 1743 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 7: Do you have it all? 1744 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? I found a different way to play it. 1745 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 7: Let me just. 1746 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 1747 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 4: You do believe and I do too, that if should 1748 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,320 Speaker 4: do or went to the Cowboys, Dion would accept the job. 1749 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 2: I believe one. 1750 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 3: And I can tell you good sources, great sources have 1751 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 3: told me that. 1752 01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 4: Great have told me that. 1753 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 3: Man, that's good. The idea though, that like should Dour 1754 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 3: ending up in Dallas from from Coward where there's just 1755 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 3: there's scenario where that's the case. You can't unless you're 1756 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,639 Speaker 3: training deck, right, it's not going to happen at all. 1757 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 3: This is going to be a weird draft though, because 1758 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 3: he is going to be a tough evaluation the way 1759 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 3: that he have you guys seen him play this year, 1760 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 3: not a lot. 1761 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's he's a Tilate Nate fine Bomb's credo. 1762 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 3: It would don't watch much. Know everything, but don't watch much. 1763 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,120 Speaker 3: It's a lot like how Caleb played last year. So 1764 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 3: it's a it's he holds on the ball a really 1765 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,920 Speaker 3: long time. Travis Hunter is the most outstanding player in 1766 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,960 Speaker 3: college football. But I don't know what position he plays 1767 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,320 Speaker 3: in the NFL. I don't know if you play him 1768 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 3: at receiver, if you playim at corner. He's probably the 1769 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 3: best corner in college football, and he's one of the 1770 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 3: more dangerous weapons in college football. Who wasn't a freshman, 1771 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 3: So like, what do you do with him? If you 1772 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 3: draft him number one overall? So there isn't somebody out 1773 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 3: there that is probably a corner. I would think, well, 1774 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,639 Speaker 3: are you are you taking a corner at number one? keV? 1775 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,639 Speaker 3: You're up, keV, you're up? Oh sorry about that? Sorry 1776 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,600 Speaker 3: about that. You're good. I want you to get in 1777 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 3: trouble exactly. Just trying to protect you, buddy. That's where 1778 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm at. But that's why it's going to be a 1779 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 3: very wrong You're good, brother, you got you got eighteen 1780 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,840 Speaker 3: balls in the year. And then the other part of 1781 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 3: it that's very real is the next draft could be 1782 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 3: a monster. So there's that part of it. Quinn yours 1783 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,720 Speaker 3: this week. By the way, one of those quarterbacks a 1784 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,679 Speaker 3: lot of people think could be in this draft would 1785 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,719 Speaker 3: was noncommittal about this being his last game. 1786 01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 4: At Texas, so Arch would sit again. 1787 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,960 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think Quinn could say, 1788 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:31,760 Speaker 3: if someone wants paying me three million to be the 1789 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,640 Speaker 3: quarterback for one year at drilling the blank, I'll come 1790 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 3: on in. Well, they're set up, they're gonna go Julian 1791 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 3: saying next year, so they'll be fine, But there will 1792 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,920 Speaker 3: be There would certainly be a place that would pay 1793 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,439 Speaker 3: him to a mission three million bucks. 1794 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:43,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1795 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 4: They're fine at the quarterback position. 1796 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 3: No, I don't think he would do that either. I 1797 01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,000 Speaker 3: think it'll be an SEC school. I could see him 1798 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 3: going to, you know, someplace in the South for a year, 1799 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,960 Speaker 3: Georgia for a year or something like that that would 1800 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 3: make sense. Or you go to like quarterback finishing school 1801 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 3: at USC learn under Lincoln Riley develops first round quarterbacks. 1802 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,440 Speaker 3: So I don't know who knows. That's all just wild conjecture, 1803 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 3: but I thought it was interesting. You wouldn't commit because 1804 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 3: the whole plan all along has been he was going 1805 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,679 Speaker 3: to play this year and then give way to arch Banning, 1806 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 3: so much more to come. You listen to Cleveland Browns 1807 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,360 Speaker 3: Daily on eight fifty ESPN. 1808 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet 1809 01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland. 1810 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 3: Whosher gave me the season with the vallely Bet sportsbook 1811 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 3: app place your first bet at twenty five bucks more 1812 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 3: you get one hundred and fifty back in bonus bets. 1813 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:52,640 Speaker 3: Bally Bet, official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1814 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 4: How about that Rassini story? 1815 01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:01,479 Speaker 3: Huh what is that? Oh, the the Jets. 1816 01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 4: The Jets lose to the We have no time to 1817 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,640 Speaker 4: discuss that was just being funny. No, I think we 1818 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:06,479 Speaker 4: do about it tomorrow. 1819 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 3: I think we do more time than we think. I 1820 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,920 Speaker 3: don't think of And now we have two minutes. So 1821 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,720 Speaker 3: the Jets lose to Denver. They calling all hands on 1822 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 3: deck luminary meeting, to which Woody Johnson says, we need 1823 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:22,840 Speaker 3: to bench Rogers and GM and coach goor you're kidding right, 1824 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,120 Speaker 3: and he gets talked off the ledge. And then a 1825 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,599 Speaker 3: week later they fire Sala And so what my question 1826 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,920 Speaker 3: is is like now they fire Douglas, Like why is 1827 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 3: Roger firing Douglas's buddy? So why is Rogers still playing? 1828 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,759 Speaker 3: If what he wanted him bench at the end of September, 1829 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,880 Speaker 3: he wasn't wrong. No, and I don't think they were 1830 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,320 Speaker 3: either at that time. I mean, you want to lose 1831 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 3: the team that would have done it. 1832 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,679 Speaker 4: Don't you think there's a fan of parton My takes 1833 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 4: theory is that we know that Aaron Rodgers stands on 1834 01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,240 Speaker 4: a great many things, including vaccines, that this was he 1835 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 4: has come to the Jets to sabotage Woody Johnson and 1836 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:06,679 Speaker 4: Johnson and Johnson, which actually made me have that reaction 1837 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,800 Speaker 4: that you just said. It's pretty good, It's pretty funny. 1838 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 3: It is pretty funny. You think Rogers plays anywhere next year? No, 1839 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,160 Speaker 3: I think this is his last season, Like he's gonna 1840 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 3: go out in this scenario. 1841 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 4: Who wants him? 1842 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. It didn't end this poorly for farv 1843 01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 3: In with the Jets, but it wasn't great with him 1844 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,560 Speaker 3: and the Jets. Then he had a little renaissance with Minnesota. 1845 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,479 Speaker 3: If there were a right circumstances, If there were the 1846 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 3: right circumstances with style of. 1847 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 4: Play, personalities quite large, it is it is I don't 1848 01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:37,720 Speaker 4: think you can play. 1849 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a hell of a drop off. Yeah, 1850 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,200 Speaker 3: all right, the next levels coming up next. We're back 1851 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 3: tomorrow on a game day edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. 1852 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,440 Speaker 3: Eight fifty yesp in Cleveland. 1853 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,560 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1854 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,840 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1855 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 2: The bat 1856 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:09,720 Speaker 3: At at the