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Speaker 4: There is so much energy on this show. We blew
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Speaker 4: truck out there. We tried to burn down Kurt's house
Speaker 4: last night.
Speaker 5: He's not here today.
Speaker 6: He had a some uh, some technical difficulties.
Speaker 5: Could you say that's technical? Yeah, I guess it's technical.
Speaker 5: Is that technical?
Speaker 6: It's the technical I guess had difficulties.
Speaker 4: We'll let him tell you about it when he comes
Speaker 4: back next week. Kurt safe, he's good, he's healthy. Everything's good.
Speaker 4: So it is fifty seven degrees, the highest sixty, the
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Speaker 5: Do? I? I had a sandwich at the cord Okay,
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Speaker 5: I brought diabetes in the can again the last day. Prolleens.
Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all like prolleens.
Speaker 6: But no, I'm good, thank you God.
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Speaker 6: Thank you. Was in the kitchen baking domestic.
Speaker 5: She baked another another deal of cinnamon rolls this morning.
Speaker 6: So that's Harris's type, right there.
Speaker 4: Man, funny, that's funny. We will not have a show tomorrow. No,
Speaker 4: why are we not having a show tomorrow?
Speaker 2: We could but me you and uh and I just
Speaker 2: ain't from Lissa, I will you what I'm your.
Speaker 5: W that's so disappointed.
Speaker 6: So you want to do a show tomorrow?
Speaker 8: Hey, the time slot's open.
Speaker 7: So we here, Me and my man were coming, We coming,
Speaker 7: We are here.
Speaker 6: That's what. So you're gonna do.
Speaker 4: At eleven o'clock minute before the show started, you said good,
Speaker 4: because I don't want to work tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Why are you working now?
Speaker 2: Because now I want to hear what you gotta say
Speaker 2: for forty five minutes?
Speaker 4: Because you say, oh so now, Chris, how long we
Speaker 4: got to talk to get paid?
Speaker 9: Because I will give you one minute more than that,
Speaker 9: and I will two segments.
Speaker 6: You gotta go.
Speaker 7: That's we'll be here tomorrow.
Speaker 8: That one pump, right, that's what that's happen to keep.
Speaker 7: Me from going out of town?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, go out of came man, by the way,
Speaker 4: we just found out ago and typical Nate fashion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, since we might not have a show tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Well this is such a man thing what you're about
Speaker 6: to say, though, is it? Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 5: Happy birthday tomorrow, Nate. Yeah, I didn't even know.
Speaker 6: No, I think you've been working for him with seven years,
Speaker 6: but didn't even know the same birthday every single year.
Speaker 6: But that's man, right, Yeah, we don't remember birthdays.
Speaker 5: We don't put it on our calny.
Speaker 8: You didn't know, did you just see until he said it?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 6: I usually wait, somebody usually tweeting me, or you see
Speaker 6: on Facebook, or well, I don't have fishbook.
Speaker 2: The only birthday I ever cared about, it's my sixty
Speaker 2: first birthday.
Speaker 6: That's like grill. Yeah, I know that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: For a whole year, I had sixty one on my phone.
Speaker 2: For a whole year, I was selling everybody I'm sixty one.
Speaker 7: I was born in sixty one out of my football
Speaker 7: and I was sixty one.
Speaker 9: What we should do tomorrow for Nate is first birthday
Speaker 9: is is you need to send a mass text to
Speaker 9: all your friends and tell them to call eight eight
Speaker 9: eight eight five five ninety seven. See how many of
Speaker 9: your celebrity friends and wish you.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday exactly one of them.
Speaker 7: I may be sitting in one on them crib tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Let's see how many who the most famous person Nate
Speaker 4: can get the call.
Speaker 7: That's what I thought to Darren will see yesterday.
Speaker 9: No, that's nothing. Darren was on storyline about two hours ago.
Speaker 2: But the better thing was when me and him hung out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he just came in. Yeah, I scared us.
Speaker 9: He scared Hiatus out of out of Nick eat Man.
Speaker 9: He just jumped on the show and Nick was like,
Speaker 9: someone's in my room. He turns like, oh it's Darren.
Speaker 8: Sit down. Really he just came in.
Speaker 5: That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 8: Yep, it's a pretty good pretty good dude, pretty good.
Speaker 6: Get Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, happy birthday, Happy early birthday, Nate. We will let
Speaker 4: you guys know if we're gonna have a show we're doing.
Speaker 4: If we're doing birthday shout outs.
Speaker 7: Today, today, we shouting out today.
Speaker 6: I'm shouting out cat Mama, Cassandra, cat mama.
Speaker 7: Cat, cat, cat cat.
Speaker 5: She got a lot of cat.
Speaker 7: Cat.
Speaker 6: She has no cats, she's she's dogs. But we called
Speaker 6: the cat mama in college. But my good friend Cassandra Waddell,
Speaker 6: Happy birthday, Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah happy so uh you know my uncle Jeremiah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm hotting out my uncle Jeremiah his birthday today. Yeah,
Speaker 2: popping birthday to day too. But you know that's okay.
Speaker 6: How are you tomorrow?
Speaker 7: I'm sixty three, bro, sixty three, man, I think three.
Speaker 5: I think it's like you're a piece of work.
Speaker 6: Man, No, No, you are a piece of work. Something else. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we got guys. You encurreage both of your fifties, right,
Speaker 6: So forties, fifties, sixties, what are you? What are you,
Speaker 6: Chris forties, late forties? Yes, easy, my bad, that's late.
Speaker 5: I bet there's no other show that has four decades covered.
Speaker 7: Mickey doing sixties.
Speaker 5: Wait, three decades, three decades.
Speaker 6: The decades, not centuries, three or four decades.
Speaker 7: But Coach Bella said, covered a lot of decades. No, man, Coachee,
Speaker 7: I love you, coach.
Speaker 4: This is one of those shows where we could just
Speaker 4: sit here and not be not talk about the game
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 5: But since it is the last show of.
Speaker 11: The week, at least the last show, Jesse'll be on
Speaker 11: to be determined if we're gonna we're gonna do tomorrow
Speaker 11: or not. I had something on the tip of my tongue,
Speaker 11: and I completely forgot what it was that was not happening.
Speaker 6: Your fifties happened a long time, but you had that
Speaker 6: that letters was like really deeply and better than your.
Speaker 7: What type sandwiches you for to get like that?
Speaker 5: It was a it was a it was a sub sandwich.
Speaker 7: Did you get it from seven to eleven?
Speaker 5: I did get it from seven elevens.
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Speaker 6: They don't have the Cubs roller girl.
Speaker 5: I'll remember what I was gonna gonna say before the
Speaker 5: end of.
Speaker 6: The show, hopefully.
Speaker 4: All right, So Kurt gave us his rundown, So we'll
Speaker 4: go through some things, and I have a question for
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 5: These are Kurt's words, and I.
Speaker 4: Think I have a little bit of a different take
Speaker 4: because I kind of agree with this, but I kind
Speaker 4: of don't. Kurt's first bullet point for all the headaches
Speaker 4: that Parsons brings, guess he's worth it. Since his return,
Speaker 4: Dallas has twenty four sacks and six games, the most
Speaker 4: of the NFL in that span. Also have thirteen takeaways,
Speaker 4: which is third. My take on that is, does he
Speaker 4: really bring that many headaches? Yes, he has a podcast,
Speaker 4: Yes he talks, he talks, he airs laundry out outside
Speaker 4: the locker room, but a talent that's as good as his. Like,
Speaker 4: those aren't really headaches, right?
Speaker 12: Like?
Speaker 5: Or are they? I guess? Is my question?
Speaker 4: Like it's it's as a fan, you're like, man, just
Speaker 4: you know, you don't want him to do.
Speaker 5: Some of those things.
Speaker 4: But in the locker room and on the field, does
Speaker 4: that stuff really matter when you talk about I mean
Speaker 4: a guy that caliber, if it's a practice squad guy, yeah,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna put up with some of that stuff.
Speaker 5: But I mean, are they really headaches or are they
Speaker 5: just like.
Speaker 6: Surprise of doing business. That's what I was gonna say,
Speaker 6: It's surprise of doing business with the superstar. And that's
Speaker 6: the part that you got to just take the good
Speaker 6: with the bad. Now, all of that is fine and
Speaker 6: dandy now, because the talent is at a top tier,
Speaker 6: top top, top, top top, there's.
Speaker 5: A tipping level.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when that talent is no longer top top, top tier,
Speaker 6: We've seen it happen here before. It's it's passion, it's enthusiasm,
Speaker 6: it's all these things. Now the talent begins to dwindle
Speaker 6: a little bit, then it becomes a distraction, a headache.
Speaker 7: And very very annoying, annoying and the thing very very annoyous.
Speaker 6: For Michaeh. I think you're absolutely right, Like that's.
Speaker 5: A good word annoying.
Speaker 6: Mica is not not getting arrested, right, He doesn't have
Speaker 6: any cases. He just not there's no domestic situations, there's
Speaker 6: no guns, there's no none of that. It's none of that.
Speaker 5: You don't see him out partying after losses or.
Speaker 7: To the games.
Speaker 6: So that's that's the part that you go, Okay, cool,
Speaker 6: Like we can deal with the sometimes speaking out of
Speaker 6: turn or saying things that probably shouldn't be said publicly.
Speaker 6: That's the price of doing business, right there.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 6: That's just that's just that's like saying, if you're gonna
Speaker 6: be a cowboy, the price of doing business, you're gonna
Speaker 6: get horseman on in your boots. That's just the price
Speaker 6: of doing business to be a cowboy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, PFF, we know how Kurt likes PFF has.
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's offensive line ranked third, allowed only four pressures
Speaker 4: on thirty pass plays.
Speaker 8: Last week versus the Chargers.
Speaker 6: Tristan is it worse and worse?
Speaker 5: Left tackle is ranked sixth among tackles. So pretty good, uh,
Speaker 5: pretty good offensive line? Nate. You you like what you
Speaker 5: see what those.
Speaker 6: Guys, Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 5: I mean are they as advertised?
Speaker 7: They're they're run game.
Speaker 2: They have over two thousand yards as a team rushing
Speaker 2: fourteen games in at about five right, at five percent,
Speaker 2: find me five yards and average that that is tremendous.
Speaker 2: Right now, they have Bucky Irvin at eight hundred and
Speaker 2: something and uh the white kid at three hundred and something,
Speaker 2: and that's not counting their passes together.
Speaker 7: They have ten touchdowns rushing.
Speaker 6: Let's be clear. His last name was white white. Yes,
Speaker 6: he's not the white kid. Yeah last name, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: thank you, jes Now, I want to make sure that mighty.
Speaker 7: I mean, I didn't care what color was.
Speaker 6: You need to stop this, dude.
Speaker 5: You can see some people out there now they got
Speaker 5: a white running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they would get and see unlike I felt
Speaker 2: like Carolina remember last year, Like man, Carolina got.
Speaker 7: A high ranked off his line.
Speaker 2: But if you game and snapped them and twist on them,
Speaker 2: you can get them. This team a little bit better
Speaker 2: than that. You you may get them a livid on
Speaker 2: the games. It's stunts, but not like last week, because
Speaker 2: they gonna get their running game going.
Speaker 7: They they they gonna. They are stubborn about that.
Speaker 6: So Liam Cohen, who is the He's in that next
Speaker 6: tier of hot shot names that you'll hear talked about.
Speaker 6: Not this year next year. Right this year is the
Speaker 6: slow sister Ben Johnson's and company. But Liam Cohen is
Speaker 6: one of Cohen is one of those guys who they're
Speaker 6: gonna start talking about, uh in the near future. And
Speaker 6: we're we're getting back to the point where I said
Speaker 6: it yesterday. We're playing teams that are good as or
Speaker 6: better than you. And the one thing that this team
Speaker 6: does and I don't even I didn't even look at
Speaker 6: kurse notes today. Uh, We're about to start facing another
Speaker 6: team that does a lot of pre snap motion and
Speaker 6: that has been that has been the achilles heel for
Speaker 6: this defense as a whole. When they're all healthy, when
Speaker 6: they all together, when the tank was in there, Michael
Speaker 6: was in there, and when everybody was motion pre snap motion,
Speaker 6: they're gonna do a lot of it. They're gonna do
Speaker 6: exit motion, right it is when the when you have
Speaker 6: a receiver or the back exit out towards the sideline.
Speaker 6: They're gonna low inline motion where that receiver of back
Speaker 6: motions into the line of screamers. They're gonna do cross
Speaker 6: the formation motions when you go from when you cross
Speaker 6: the center from one side to the other. They're going
Speaker 6: to constantly be moving every single play there will be
Speaker 6: someone moving and the way that they layer their past plays,
Speaker 6: it gives Baker Mayfield the answers right now, and it's
Speaker 6: all about the matter of him completing it because a
Speaker 6: lot of times when you watch that that Chargers game
Speaker 6: last week, I mean, they'll have something short, intermediate and
Speaker 6: they'll have something coming right around that, and whether they
Speaker 6: do it is just you know, he comes available first
Speaker 6: and second and third, and so their ability to to
Speaker 6: have these routes begin to come open at the time
Speaker 6: that you need them to come open is really really good.
Speaker 6: And then to Max's point, getting that running game going,
Speaker 6: they're gonna have to dance. They're gonna have to dance
Speaker 6: in up front this week. And so there's gonna be
Speaker 6: a lot of guys who've shown themselves to be players
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Speaker 6: turning and agreeing that you are that guy you start,
Speaker 6: you know, from the defensive standpoint. From the defensive standpoint,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of Mazi and you know osa Osa,
Speaker 6: Carl Austin, all those guys who you know Lewis Marifoule
Speaker 6: to start right here.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about Mayfield and the running game the Cowboys
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Speaker 4: brought up a good point. You're getting a little bit
Speaker 4: of a temperature check this week. You've been on a
Speaker 4: little bit of a roll the last couple of weeks
Speaker 4: on the Cowboys defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 5: They have not allowed one.
Speaker 4: Hundred rushing one hundred yards rushing total in the last
Speaker 4: two games. Now they were against Cincinnati and Carolina. Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: you could argue you know decent Carolina not so great.
Speaker 6: Well they against the Chargers, I find out, keep talking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look it up.
Speaker 2: You're talking about their defense against the Chargers. They gave
Speaker 2: it like thirty forty yards against the Chargers.
Speaker 5: So what what?
Speaker 4: What have the Cowboys been doing different the last couple
Speaker 4: of weeks too, because the running game has been an
Speaker 4: issue since what the last.
Speaker 5: Four or five you're talking about our defense? Our defense?
Speaker 4: Yes, are they doing anything different or is it just
Speaker 4: not good teams in the rushing game that they've been
Speaker 4: playing in Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of all that. The teams are
Speaker 2: not been as good. Ye give two rushing the Cowboys
Speaker 2: have been better. They the coach is stuck to it
Speaker 2: a little bit more. The games have been closer, to
Speaker 2: have loud and to stick with it a little bit more.
Speaker 2: And you got to look at your quarterback, and you
Speaker 2: got to look at Youlviens Vermond when it comes to
Speaker 2: the past and protection. So you know, due to all
Speaker 2: of those things factoring in, uh now, they've been able
Speaker 2: to build some type of momentum and get a little confidence.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you they they gave up less than
Speaker 2: ninety yards ninety three against the team before the Raiders
Speaker 2: and they gave up. Only you know, I'm just talking
Speaker 2: about their defense.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about our defense, our defense man, our defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are they doing different against Carolina and Cincinnati
Speaker 4: because they haven't allowed one hundred rushing It's just they
Speaker 4: play bad teams.
Speaker 6: I don't want to say like, I don't want it
Speaker 6: to like sound like that, but they're playing bad teams. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they're they're playing bad teams. And so when you when
Speaker 6: you do that, getting micro back helps And I said
Speaker 6: this a couple of weeks ago, how does he help the
Speaker 6: run game.
Speaker 7: Defend the run game?
Speaker 6: Michael, Yeah, he's getting a double team. So when he
Speaker 6: gets a double team getting one on one, you get
Speaker 6: one on one coverage. You know, you know on that.
Speaker 6: But again, the competition matters. That that like I can't
Speaker 6: say that enough. I cannot say that enough. That the
Speaker 6: competition that you're going up against absolutely matters. And so
Speaker 6: if you're telling me that these teams are in the
Speaker 6: bottom third in the League of Russian or having them,
Speaker 6: you know, rush against them, then you see how the
Speaker 6: success the Cowboys are having. You know, they're they're doing
Speaker 6: that because because you can't you can't make me believe
Speaker 6: that anybody we put at guard was better than Zach Martin.
Speaker 6: You can't. You can't leave me to believe that people
Speaker 6: are afraid of Cooper Rush at the quarterback spot. Now
Speaker 6: you're playing competition that's a little bit less than what
Speaker 6: you are, equal less than equal, less than you are
Speaker 6: you're able to have, not equal, you know, you're able
Speaker 6: to have a level of a level of success. Make
Speaker 6: no mistakes about it. Getting Micah back in the lineup,
Speaker 6: and like I was saying, you know, Micah is fresh,
Speaker 6: MICA's fresh. MICA's usually isn't fresh. In December, those four
Speaker 6: games that he missed, you're thinking about, that's four games
Speaker 6: of extremely wear and tear that he burdens every single game.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a month of your what six month season.
Speaker 6: Right that you're and you caught it like kind of
Speaker 6: right in the middle. So you were like, you know,
Speaker 6: you got you got some time to be fresh. And
Speaker 6: so now you have a player that just he's just
Speaker 6: fresher now. And and that's the first time he's been
Speaker 6: able to have this type of impact in the month
Speaker 6: of December or late November December. Has he been in
Speaker 6: this league.
Speaker 4: So do you see a big the you know, Irving
Speaker 4: and uh White that you talked about earlier.
Speaker 2: This is the order in which I think the Cowboys
Speaker 2: get attacked when we play teams that are equally greater.
Speaker 7: First of all, you have.
Speaker 2: To go back to what your real nemesis is, that
Speaker 2: is stopping to run. And it seemed like if we
Speaker 2: could just slow down the run, the next thing they
Speaker 2: hit us with is tight ends. Then the tight ends
Speaker 2: become effective. And then the last, but not least, they
Speaker 2: are at least running backs on us catching the ball out.
Speaker 5: The receivers.
Speaker 7: You never hear me really get debate the receivers.
Speaker 2: I think we always seem to have a way with
Speaker 2: receivers except the Cincinnati kid. That right there is just
Speaker 2: run fing to halve. This kid came with a purpose.
Speaker 2: So but every other receiver I don't worry about. But
Speaker 2: running backs and tight ends. If we stop the run game,
Speaker 2: then I look at running back and Bucky Irvin is
Speaker 2: that guy.
Speaker 6: They are to me, Gibbs.
Speaker 2: And Montgomery is the number one tandem Detroit. It gives
Speaker 2: us out. So now this tandem, Bucky and White are
Speaker 2: the number one tandem in the league. Running backs they
Speaker 2: can do it all and more importantly.
Speaker 7: They can go to the house. I mean they can
Speaker 7: take it ninety yards.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 4: They are second in the league and yards per carry
Speaker 4: it five point two. They have Irvin ranked as fourth.
Speaker 4: PFF has Irvan ranked fourth and White as eighteenth running backs,
Speaker 4: So they have two running backs in the top twenty
Speaker 4: in the league.
Speaker 2: They are they are legit. They could easily be ISO backs.
Speaker 2: What I mean by that is they can be their
Speaker 2: team's lead back.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know if we had those guys, I would I would.
Speaker 2: I would probably be fire because I would demand that
Speaker 2: the Cowboys fix their offensive line. I would you like,
Speaker 2: y'all need to hurry up because you this you don't
Speaker 2: want to waste. This is a town. You don't want
Speaker 2: to spend that bucket. Even kid, this guy is special.
Speaker 4: Their second in the NFL and yards after contact with
Speaker 4: one thousand and thirteen to put it in perspective, Dallas's
Speaker 4: twentieth with six hundred and forty eight are they are?
Speaker 2: They tough runners the quick It's called contact when you
Speaker 2: hit them.
Speaker 7: They still can gain yards.
Speaker 2: Whether they breaking a tackle or falling forward, they still
Speaker 2: is called contact. He'll run after contact. They got contact balance.
Speaker 2: It just excites me. The more, and we talked about
Speaker 2: this earlier in the year, the more everybody's trying to
Speaker 2: get away from the run and go to passing.
Speaker 7: People are realizing that our quarterback ain't all that.
Speaker 2: So we mout have saw it, figured out ways to
Speaker 2: get these passes to these backs coming out of the
Speaker 2: backfield because one of them went to the bench in Atlanta.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about we'll talk.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about Baker Mayfield in the final segment talking
Speaker 4: about the quarterback, but Jesse talk about Mike Evans. He's
Speaker 4: maybe the most non talked about. Is he still elite
Speaker 4: right now? There's just some stats of his career. He's
Speaker 4: ninth all time and touchdown catches all time with one
Speaker 4: hundred and three, third among active players in yards twelve
Speaker 4: four and twenty nine, and seventh in catches at eight
Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 5: Is he still playing at a high level.
Speaker 4: He's probably not elite, but he's probably in that second tier.
Speaker 5: Like what does he bring? He's a big, physical guy.
Speaker 5: Like what do you like his game? What do you
Speaker 5: see within his game?
Speaker 6: I think you hit it all in the head. Right,
Speaker 6: there's a big guy, physical guy. You know, an extensive
Speaker 6: catch radius, still runs decent routes as a red zone threat.
Speaker 6: I mean the knowledge that he has of this game
Speaker 6: is you know, ten eleven years going, he's going, Yeah,
Speaker 6: so he's chasing. He's chasing that that thing too, you know,
Speaker 6: being eleven, you know, eleven consecutive views with at least
Speaker 6: that's unbelievable. That's just a model of consistency.
Speaker 5: Why did he never get why was he never talked about?
Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's been one of the best receiver
Speaker 4: in the league.
Speaker 6: He don't talk.
Speaker 5: He just does his business, does his business.
Speaker 6: And you know, when he had a chance to go
Speaker 6: elsewhere to get bigger money, he just took the money
Speaker 6: that he wanted and stayed in and Tampa wonted. In
Speaker 6: his career in Tampa, is that rare wide receiver that
Speaker 6: the nones like, He's not like.
Speaker 5: Like I Cedric Wilson type, let me play.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, but but Mike, Mike is I mean,
Speaker 6: he's just a model of consistency. Like at this at
Speaker 6: this point in time in his career, nothing that he
Speaker 6: does wows you. But there's nothing that he can't do right,
Speaker 6: Like he's still going to get open uh, if he
Speaker 6: if he gets if you give the if you give
Speaker 6: the plane some running room on the runway, he go,
Speaker 6: he gonna run it in from fifty sixty yards in'll
Speaker 6: you'll get an end zone to catch this.
Speaker 5: You worried about him this game? Or are you more
Speaker 5: worried about the run the run game?
Speaker 6: No, the run game. Yeah, the run game. But I
Speaker 6: do think the way they designed this offense, and Liam
Speaker 6: Comb designs and called his offense like you know, it's
Speaker 6: death by a thousand cuts. They can just cut you
Speaker 6: up from many different people to the running back, see
Speaker 6: you know number fifteen, the tight end, Mike Evans. I mean,
Speaker 6: they're they're just everybodys shepherd. Yeah, everybody, everybody getting a
Speaker 6: little bit, everybody getting a little bit, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. And Baker's finding them. Baker's playing a good
Speaker 6: brand of football too. So I mean, Mike is just
Speaker 6: Mike is just a really good at this point in time,
Speaker 6: his creaze just a really good wide receiver who can
Speaker 6: get open, can still play at a high level. Not
Speaker 6: an elite not an elite guy. But you're talking about
Speaker 6: him going up against Warrior or Izzy or you know,
Speaker 6: or one of the other guys at times, because I
Speaker 6: don't think I don't think they have Blad travel with
Speaker 6: him like he gonna make some place and and he
Speaker 6: coming back home. He ad Texas boy.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, you can think what you want
Speaker 2: when they say first and ten, whether it's starting on
Speaker 2: their own ten down on your ten. He's gonna be
Speaker 2: in the game. He ain't wanted the receivers that like
Speaker 2: to run in and out. He's gonna be in the
Speaker 2: game trying to make every play that he can. That's
Speaker 2: to me, that's a complete receiver, you know, because he
Speaker 2: gives himself a chance by being the older wise guy,
Speaker 2: all the opportunities.
Speaker 6: He can get.
Speaker 2: The block for you as well, so that that when
Speaker 2: when I look at him, I'll be like, but he's
Speaker 2: not my worry. I mean, somehow somewhere, I think we'll
Speaker 2: be able to handle that, you know, unless unless the
Speaker 2: other kid want to show up, Jalen McMillan, unless he
Speaker 2: want to show up the tight I'm just scared of
Speaker 2: the tight ends in the running back.
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna be honest.
Speaker 5: They got a nice tight end too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, talking on him es if we got time.
Speaker 4: Break talk about the tight end. The quarterback and predictions.
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Speaker 5: We decided in the break that no show tomorrow, no show,
Speaker 5: So there you go. We hugged it out.
Speaker 7: He didn't want to be spotlight people.
Speaker 5: I'm afraid of what Nate's going to bring up. So
Speaker 5: I'm cowering and in the shadows.
Speaker 4: No show tomorrow, so you have to get your field today.
Speaker 4: So we will give you our predictions before the end
Speaker 4: of the show. But let's talk about the star. I
Speaker 4: guess you could say the star of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, uh,
Speaker 4: local favorite. I guess he's one of those guys that
Speaker 4: if he's on your team, you love him because he's
Speaker 4: cocky and arrogant and he's got that fire.
Speaker 5: But if he's not on your team, can't stand him.
Speaker 4: Everybody's got that friend, right, what what what does he bring?
Speaker 5: Is he good? Is he average?
Speaker 4: Is he you know, he's he's not a real big dude,
Speaker 4: but he's fiery and he's you know, he's a Yeah, that's.
Speaker 6: A he's a gamer. Like that's what Baker is. And
Speaker 6: the gift and a curse about a gamer is emotion,
Speaker 6: the emotional roller coaster. If he gets going, he can
Speaker 6: hit you for five hundred yards, Like, he has that ability,
Speaker 6: if you know, like, if he gets really going, three
Speaker 6: fifty to fourhundred yards is not a wild speculation. And
Speaker 6: Baker gets going. But he's also a guy that if
Speaker 6: it ain't going right for he can also throw three interceptions,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. But for the most part,
Speaker 6: the way that he's playing under this this this play caller, Liam,
Speaker 6: he's just a gamer man. He has the physical traits. Well,
Speaker 6: he may not have the height that you wanted the quarterback.
Speaker 6: I mean, he can sling the football. He's not afraid.
Speaker 6: He's athletic, he's mobile. He'll he'll tuck it and run
Speaker 6: six foot one. Yeah, he'll tuck the football and run
Speaker 6: and makes him plays. Sometimes he and they can speak
Speaker 6: more this from an offensive linemen perspective, But he'll sometimes
Speaker 6: dance his way into a sack, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: instead of being where he's supposed to be or just
Speaker 6: settling in the pocket, he'll get the back there and
Speaker 6: he's he's he's moving. And yeah, now that the lineman
Speaker 6: can't figure out what the hell is going on because
Speaker 6: he's he's the fin of doing all that, and next thing,
Speaker 6: you know, he run into a sack, you know, and
Speaker 6: so uh, But Baker, he's a gamer. He is the
Speaker 6: he's the tone center for that offense. He's the guy's
Speaker 6: gonna talk trash, get him hype. But he's found that
Speaker 6: he has found a home in Tampa. You know, he
Speaker 6: got the deal a year or so ago, and so
Speaker 6: he'll be there for a little while.
Speaker 12: I mean.
Speaker 6: Elite, no below average, no like he's in that. He's
Speaker 6: in that tier of uh he could be. He's in
Speaker 6: that bus driver tier that you know that, but he's
Speaker 6: more of a like.
Speaker 2: You know, his his bus got a little bit of
Speaker 2: seen the movie speed less than fifty five five?
Speaker 4: Is this a fair comparison. He's almost like the evil
Speaker 4: twin of Jameis Winston. Not in the dial they play,
Speaker 4: but how they're streaky and they can throw you in
Speaker 4: a game out of a game. And Jamis is that
Speaker 4: positive ray of sunshine energy and Baker is the little
Speaker 4: devil you know. Yes, they're both energy, you know, and
Speaker 4: our teammates love them and die for them and run
Speaker 4: through that wall.
Speaker 5: But you don't know what you're.
Speaker 6: Gonna He'll know what you're gonna get weekend and week out. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Baker may be a little bit more consistent than Jamis,
Speaker 6: but yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 5: Want them both micd up every week.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't mind it. You would get some great content
Speaker 6: from it. You would get some great content from both
Speaker 6: of those dudes being miked up.
Speaker 13: How do you?
Speaker 7: How do you?
Speaker 8: How do you?
Speaker 5: How can you get to him where he doesn't get
Speaker 5: on a roll?
Speaker 2: Do you do?
Speaker 5: You have to pressure him a lot?
Speaker 13: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it putting more men in coverage? It's going after him?
Speaker 13: Huh?
Speaker 6: No, You got to go after him. You have to
Speaker 6: make him panic because sometimes his panics where he make
Speaker 6: his dumb decisions. This offense won't really allow you to
Speaker 6: just sit back there and those coverages. And because they
Speaker 6: got them telling you when you watch this offense and
Speaker 6: from the from the receiver pass cutch Er perspective, there's
Speaker 6: always gotten they have. They have answers for whatever thing
Speaker 6: you're gonna do. And coverage, well, you have to get
Speaker 6: Baker is. You got to get him where Baker he
Speaker 6: has that he has that Brett farv mindset. Or I
Speaker 6: can make any throw without the Brett Favo, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So, but he'll be dancing, dancing, rolling
Speaker 6: out next thing, you know, he'll see you come open
Speaker 6: and he'll think I got enough arm to do it,
Speaker 6: and he'll side on whip that thing up there and
Speaker 6: it's intercepted, you know what I mean. Or he'll try
Speaker 6: to throw back across his body and for everyone that
Speaker 6: he'll complete. The next one he'll try again intercepted, or
Speaker 6: he's you know, doing something, doing something the fumbles. So
Speaker 6: that's the thing about Baker. You pressure him. He tries
Speaker 6: to make those yolo plays under pressure because of his
Speaker 6: athleticism and his mobility, but at times his mind just
Speaker 6: doesn't what he wants to do, and what actually happens
Speaker 6: when the ball is his hands probably isn't the what
Speaker 6: the coach would want.
Speaker 4: They are third and third down percentage at forty eight
Speaker 4: point three.
Speaker 6: A lot of that's because of the run game. A
Speaker 6: lot that's because of the run game.
Speaker 5: Those short yardage.
Speaker 6: There, I mean, they're they're in third and they're in
Speaker 6: third and short. They're in third and three, third and two.
Speaker 6: They're not they're not finding themselves behind the sticks because
Speaker 6: you know they're they're able to, like you said, those
Speaker 6: running backs five five five yards to carry. So when
Speaker 6: those guys get in there there.
Speaker 5: How nice is that to have to average five points?
Speaker 4: What is it five point two yards of carry to
Speaker 4: where you know you you're almost guaranteed we hand them
Speaker 4: the ball on first down, we're gonna be six yards
Speaker 4: or less to get a first down.
Speaker 6: What what a luxury?
Speaker 2: Some teams have injuries like the Cowboys, and I think
Speaker 2: maybe we would have probably been even money if we
Speaker 2: would have stayed healthy. I think we'd probably at most
Speaker 2: would have been even money. We two games under right now.
Speaker 2: But I believe that if this team would have stayed
Speaker 2: healthy with their wide receivers, I think right now, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a doubt they'll probably have ten wins. You know, yeah,
Speaker 2: they you know they would have ten wins. That's how
Speaker 2: talented and good I think they are.
Speaker 12: And so.
Speaker 6: Because they got and they.
Speaker 2: Don't have a bunch of studs, but the studs that
Speaker 2: they do have on defense, they can ball.
Speaker 7: They can flat out ball.
Speaker 10: And so.
Speaker 2: Man, we're catching them where it's this time of season
Speaker 2: and just we've been here where you fighting with Atlanta
Speaker 2: right now. Atlanta's just inserted their their rookie sensation that
Speaker 2: they think at quarterback, so you can't slip against us.
Speaker 2: So everybody's ultra focused now because everybody's trying to get
Speaker 2: their playoff position solettle five where they are. No they
Speaker 2: can do in this last week. Do they gotta play everybody?
Speaker 2: You can sit a few guys, So everybody trying to
Speaker 2: get in their seats, they where they belong. So the
Speaker 2: Cowboys ain't finna catch nobody's slipping.
Speaker 7: They got to come to play.
Speaker 6: Bro, they got it.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to judge. We get to judge these players.
Speaker 2: We'll get to judge them the next three games.
Speaker 4: Cowboys are a four point underdog at home. Forty eight
Speaker 4: and a half is the over under. What do you
Speaker 4: each one of you guys, what do you what do
Speaker 4: you think the key to the game is, what do
Speaker 4: you think the Cowboys have to do to win the game?
Speaker 5: Offensive or defensive? What's the most important thing?
Speaker 6: Stop the run?
Speaker 14: Stop the run.
Speaker 2: And you're gonna have to control the clock with touchdowns.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying you got to run no ball,
Speaker 2: no thirty five forty time, but you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: get an end zone if you're gonna beat this team,
Speaker 2: because they they only giving up like twenty three points
Speaker 2: a game, even against when they're getting beat four games
Speaker 2: in a row. When when when Evans went out and
Speaker 2: these other kids, they got to beat four games raw
Speaker 2: and they're still on average not just giving up more
Speaker 2: than twenty six points a game. Yeah, they got a
Speaker 2: defense man. Coach does Todd Todd balls does a great job.
Speaker 7: He's all he mixed it up.
Speaker 6: He'll he'll he'll let for a rush.
Speaker 2: But whenever he thinks he can confuse you, he gonna
Speaker 2: bring five and he gonna give you a different look
Speaker 2: every time. He trying to bring those five guys. So
Speaker 2: your quarterback gonna have to be on par And the
Speaker 2: way Jess's been talking this kid kind of this year,
Speaker 2: not throwing great anticipation.
Speaker 7: He better throw some anticipation.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you on Sunday he lost those he lost
Speaker 6: those cup kicks up like he did against Xavier Woods,
Speaker 6: and they're gonna be intercepted this week. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you like he trust me. That's all you
Speaker 6: got to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you tell me about the tight end because
Speaker 2: he came in strong hot with their quarterback tight end.
Speaker 6: No, I mean he's a good I mean big guy,
Speaker 6: like big target. I think it's like six foot four,
Speaker 6: six foot five. And the kid can play like. The
Speaker 6: kid can play like. They a lot of these guys
Speaker 6: that they have are some of them like up front
Speaker 6: and you know defense, some of these guys are the
Speaker 6: leftovers from the Brady years, right and so, and it's
Speaker 6: a mixture of what these coaches wanted and how they
Speaker 6: wanted to build this team. So they like the bigger
Speaker 6: receivers on that offense. Right, So the tight ends of
Speaker 6: pass catchers they got. Godwin's got some size, Mike Evan's
Speaker 6: got some size, you know, and the tight end was
Speaker 6: Cad Cad out and now the kid can play. The
Speaker 6: kid can play. He's you know, three or four five
Speaker 6: catches the game is what he'll probably he'll probably get
Speaker 6: So it's going. But again it's it's those guys really
Speaker 6: get going when that when Bucky and Rashad White, when
Speaker 6: they get their stuff going. Now those guys committed to
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, and again they are there. They
Speaker 6: are layered route runners. Their scheming concept. The way that
Speaker 6: they layered these three layers, right, you have the shallow
Speaker 6: intermediate and something at you know, plus fifteen, a deeper route,
Speaker 6: and they have that sort of mix in all of them.
Speaker 6: They do bunch sets. You're gonna see motions and that's
Speaker 6: been the biggest thing for the Cowboys. Can they stop
Speaker 6: pussing that motion and you're gonna see a lot of that?
Speaker 13: All right?
Speaker 5: Prediction time, Nate, what you got?
Speaker 2: If we win this one, Bro, it'll be in the
Speaker 2: last Wane in moments, put Wane in moments, if the
Speaker 2: Cowboy Wayne moments.
Speaker 5: Kurt got them.
Speaker 4: Kurt's going on the home route, He's got him twenty
Speaker 4: three twenty one, Chris.
Speaker 8: What you got, I'm gonna go, Cowboys.
Speaker 9: Twenty eight twenty one, Big Golo twenty eight twenty one,
Speaker 9: or Jazz or Josh back there. Either way, what's he got?
Speaker 9: Thirty four to twenty Cowboys thirty.
Speaker 6: Four, I am that's a lot.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of points.
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys special teams are gonna get redemption
Speaker 4: this week. I think they're still fighting even though they're
Speaker 4: not in the playoffs. I'm gonna go Cowboys twenty seven
Speaker 4: to twenty four. Jesse, the voice of reason, bring it,
Speaker 4: bring it home.
Speaker 6: A part of me was like, man, you haven't picked
Speaker 6: the Cowboys of winning the weeks. And I'm like, halfway right,
Speaker 6: halfway wrong. I find it hard they gonna win this
Speaker 6: football game.
Speaker 13: I do.
Speaker 6: I think. I think Tampa up front is going to
Speaker 6: create the things that gave them difficulty all year long,
Speaker 6: even last year, just that moving force up front and
Speaker 6: Bucky and Rashade White, Bucky Irving and Rashade White, those
Speaker 6: two running backs, the white kid, the white Kid, the
Speaker 6: white boy. I think I think those two guys are
Speaker 6: gonna have a day. So give me Tampa twenty four,
Speaker 6: Cowboys seventeen.
Speaker 4: Twenty four, seventeen, And Jesse does not have a stat
Speaker 4: of the Week because we sprung this.
Speaker 7: On every one last minute.
Speaker 6: I'll give you on tomorrow, we.
Speaker 7: Won't be here tomorrow you'll call in, but we'll know Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 7: what Texan without show Monday Tuesday?
Speaker 6: You can trust us. We'll let you go.
Speaker 5: Oh, this is what I was gonna say earlier.
Speaker 4: You know, we're the most watched show on the Dallas
Speaker 4: Cowboys Network on YouTube by far. And I've tried to
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Speaker 4: Maybe it's boys. Maybe it's hanging that's in the title.
Speaker 4: Maybe people are looking for weird stuff. And I had
Speaker 4: a revelation this morning whenever I was getting you know,
Speaker 4: getting ready this morning, and I was in the mirror
Speaker 4: with the best damn looking show in the building. That's
Speaker 4: why people want to see us talk. They want to
Speaker 4: listen to all these other people. They want to look
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Speaker 5: That's that's it. Only with the people show were the
Speaker 5: most viewed show on YouTube. We're the best looking show,
Speaker 5: a handsome bunch, the most handsome show. That's what they.
Speaker 6: Said, and that's what I figured out as well. Who's
Speaker 6: the number one guy that y'all think that y'all come
Speaker 6: to watch it? They said, Chris Bean, So what you
Speaker 6: can't see me?
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Maybe they're watching just to hope to get a glimpse
Speaker 4: of I'm like the Wizard of Like you're like a jackalobe.
Speaker 5: People think you exist, but they're not really sure that
Speaker 5: jack You don't know what a jackelobe is?
Speaker 6: A jackelbe Yeah, half rabbit.
Speaker 7: Read books growing up, you did not read a lot of.
Speaker 5: Jacket's a jack rabbit? You ever sing a jack rabbit?
Speaker 5: They're like this tall. They're with their ears, They're like that.
Speaker 5: They have antlers, they have little little spike antlers.
Speaker 6: Jack Lobe.
Speaker 5: Look it up. It's kind of like the troop of Cobre.
Speaker 6: It's it's it's.
Speaker 5: Some people say they're real, some people say they aren't.
Speaker 7: Kind of like a Bigfoot kind of No show tomorrow.
Speaker 5: What's the schedule next week?
Speaker 6: Chris? Do we know yet?
Speaker 9: Every day except crisp us oh Christmas Eve? Okay, if
Speaker 9: you don't want to let me.
Speaker 6: Know, he said, every day except Christmas. So you guys, yeah,
Speaker 6: you can.
Speaker 8: If something happens and you can't do it, then we
Speaker 8: can adject.
Speaker 5: Everybody else is here. I'm here. I just making sure.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Nate birthday, big Fellow, no show tomorrow to
Speaker 4: enjoyed their birthday tomorrow, Jesse, good seeing you, Nate. Good
Speaker 4: seeing your Kurt. Hope everything's okay. We'll see you on Monday. Chris,
Speaker 4: thanks for keep us on there. Yes, Josh, thanks for
Speaker 4: keeping him company. We will be back Monday.
Speaker 5: Victory Monday. Hang on with the boys well.
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