1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, The. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Stock Movers podcast, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Now, let's check in. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: On some of the individual stocks on the move today 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 3: here in Europe. I'm Caroline Hepko. We're joined by Bloombergs 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Baking News editor Chloe Malay. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Good morning. 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: So let's talk about the Italian bank Uni Credit, which 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: has raised guidance. So tell us more. This is a 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: very interesting, important bank led by Andrea or Chow. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: Yes, so UniCredit lifted its proper guidance, as you said, 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 4: and it also said that it plans to return at 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: least nine point five billion euros to shareholders this year, 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: so that really lifted the shares this morning. 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: That made investors quite happy. Obviously. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: This is particularly interesting because it comes just a day 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: after UniCredit withdrew its offer for Banco BPM, saying that 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: it effectively could not secure government authorization. That's, of course 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: a bit of a setback for the CEO who has 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: been pursuing all of those different takeovers and keeps really 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: encountering some obstacles. So its approach for Commerce Bank is 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: also at the moment halted. It's at an impass also 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: because of government opposition. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: But the fact that the earnings. 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 4: Were positive, the shareholder payout kind of promise lifted lifted 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 4: the shares and that was enough. 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: To make investors quite quite happy this morning. 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, UniCredit shares are more than three percent. That's aviation, now, 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: this is a very different story. They their chap us 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: down significantly. 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Why. 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's aviation sells both business kind of private 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: jets and then military jets. So the defense division, the 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 4: military jets side of things, is doing well. The order 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: intake is solid, the outlook is positive. Where it is 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: suffering is the private jet division, and a lot of 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: that has to do with tariff. So it's said that 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: the orders we were weak, and that is because tariff 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: uncertainty is delaying production and is in turn impacting the cells. 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: So that has dragged the shares lower. 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 4: Another piece of the story for their ser Aviation is 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: that it is also currently embroiled in a bit of 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: a fight with Airbus over the development of a next 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: generation fight jets. Predict Amount and Mers and macrent I 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 4: have said to meet in Berlin to kind of discuss 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: who is going to lead on that effort, so that 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: is also kind of complicating the picture there. For their 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 4: sort and shares are down as a result of both 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: of those stories there. 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dasso's full con chats of course the most interesting 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: and important in terms of the German software company sa 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: P also down. What are the tailwinds the major issues 54 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 3: for them? 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, So SAP is Europe's most valuable company, so obviously 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: anything that it does is closely watched. But this morning 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: the earnings were a bit of a mixed bag. So 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: there was growth in the cloud and software cells, but 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: it was less than what analysts had expected. And then 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: crucially and what's kind of led to the weakness and 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: the stock this morning is that the company mentioned a 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: tariff uncertainty, which is kind of feeding through into customer 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 4: hesitancy of course and kind. 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Of clouding the general outlook. 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: SAP is generally not as dramatically exposed as some other 66 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: stocks could be to the tariff issue. Customers that decide 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: to move to the cloud usually do that in kind 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: of multi year project that takes a while. It usually 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: you know, is not can't be really dialed back super quickly. 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: But tariff and Stutitty is still kind of clouding the 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: outlook generally. And then another thing that is really important 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: for SAP is the currency headwinds that it's facing, so 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: especially a week dollar given that its largest market is 74 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: in the US, so it expects currency effects to hurt 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: growth in the cloud segment by three point five percentage points, 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: and analysts are saying that, you know, it needs kind 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: of keep an eye on how much of this currency 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: headwinds can impact the outlook going forward as well. 79 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers podcast from Bloomberg Rado check back with 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies 81 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: making news on Wall Street and for the latest market 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: moving headlines. 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