WEBVTT - Katie Nolan 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.840 I was just texting my best friends also called Mini, 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.920 and it's really weird. We got into a mistaken identity. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.479 We're both pretty hardcore surfers and this kind of walk 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.079 in Yahoo gotten the way of her kid and was 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:13.960 yelling at her kid, and she got into this massive 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.079 fight with him. Anyway, it got back to everybody that 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.119 it was Mini and I took the heat. I was 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.560 getting the text messages late in the night, like you've 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.880 got to dial back the ag row like it's not 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.159 cool in the water with the kids, And I was like, 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.680 excuse me, you're a good friend, Mini driver. That's a 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.880 good friend thing to do. Are you the famous Mini too? 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.400 Like I mean that sounds like a ghost question, but like, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.879 if you're the famous Mini of the two Minis, you're 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.640 always going to take the heat. That can't be good, 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.720 by the way it is. It's true. It's like my 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.280 dad said he'd never get on a plane with a 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.960 celebrity because if the plane went down, he refused to 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.239 be and others. Yep, I always think that when I 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.720 see somebody more famous than me on a plane, I'm like, damn, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:56.160 if we go down, no one's going to remember me. Hello, 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:01.040 I'm Mini Driver Welcome to Many Questions Season too. I've 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.720 always loved Cruce's questionnaire. It was originally a nineteenth century 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.000 parlor game where players would ask each other thirty five 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.520 questions aimed at revealing the other player's true nature. It's 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.360 just the scientific method, really. In asking different people the 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.800 same set of questions, you can make observations about which 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.800 truths appeared to be universal. I love this discipline, and 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.680 it made me wonder, what if these questions were just 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.760 the jumping off point, what greater depths would be revealed 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.600 if I ask these questions as conversation starters with thought 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.720 leaders and trailblazers across all these different disciplines. So I 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.959 adapted prus questionnaire and I wrote my own seven questions 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.640 that I personally think a pertinent to a person's story. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.120 They are when and where were you happiest? What is 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.559 the quality you like least about yourself? What relationship, real 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.360 or fictionalized, defines love for you? What question would you 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.440 most like answered, What person, place, or experience has shaped 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.200 you the most? What would be your last meal? And 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.880 can you tell me something in your life that's grown 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.320 out of a personal disaster? And I've gathered a group 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.840 of really remarkable people, ones that I am honored and 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.600 humbled to have had the chance to engage with. You 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.000 may not hear their answers to all seven of these questions. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.440 We've whittled it down to which questions felt closest to 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.760 their experience, or the most surprising, or created the most 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:32.400 fertile ground to connect. My guest today on many questions 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:37.080 is sports analyst and television host Katie Nolan. What's interesting 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.480 about Katie is that in the male dominated world of 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:45.040 sports presenting, she is utterly self made. She wrote a blog, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.959 started making videos by herself, and drew attention and then 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.720 jobs by carving a space for herself out of sheer will, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.120 knowledge and humor. She's gone on to win a Sports 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.640 Emmy and has also been nominated multiple times. Mostly she 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:06.040 hosted NBC's coverage of the two Olympics. In my opinion, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.520 we need more Katie Nolan's in the world of sport. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.919 In your life, can you tell me something that has 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.919 grown out of a personal disaster? This question is hard 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.120 because I mean, I haven't had a big personal disaster. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.760 I've been very fortunate and very lucky, and I remind 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.640 myself of that all the time. But I think the 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.480 time in my life where I was going in a 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.639 direction and then it stopped was after I graduated college. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.080 Graduated in two thousand nine from Hofstra University. Go Pride 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:36.800 used to be the Flying Dutchman, but they changed it 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.040 to Pride as like a group of lions. It was 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.440 a mess. Flying Dutchman was a ship. I don't understand 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.400 who was offensive to point is. Graduating two thousand nine, 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.280 the economy was in a place so everybody was looking 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.640 for a job. My cousin from California was moving to 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.040 New York City to do teach for America, and I 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.880 was like, oh, perfect, she's moving here. I'm not going 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.880 to not move into the city with her. So we 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.720 were roommates. But I didn't have a job, but I 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.120 was always making it work, so I'd make it work, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.040 like I waited tables through college. I had money saved up. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.840 I moved to the city with her. Was out of 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.560 my money by the like third month. We were living 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.760 in a six floor walk up on the Upper East Side. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.280 I was eating cereal out of bags. I had no 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.760 idea how expensive groceries were in the city. Didn't even 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.800 cross my mind, walked into a gristitis and was like, 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.920 this is how much a yogurt costs. It was insane. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.920 I also bought groceries like I lived in a suburb, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.599 and then when I got to the checkout, they were like, 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:30.960 how are you going to get this home? And I 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.680 was like, oh, I didn't think through any of this. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.640 It was a mess. Couldn't get a job. Worked in 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.000 Equinox selling gym memberships for six months, and then it 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.719 felt like an awful person locking people into a year 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.000 contract that was way too expensive that I knew they 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.040 were never going to use the gym. Couldn't do sales. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.880 I quit. I moved back home, so I felt like, damn, 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.640 there goes my big New York City dream. I'm never 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.800 gonna make it in the world. I don't even know 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.920 what I want to do. And then I started bar 0:04:57.960 --> 0:04:59.520 attending because I was like, I know how to make 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.560 money that way. But my mom had always told me. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.360 She was like, you can bartend. You will not bartend forever. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.720 You're going to go to college, you're gonna graduate, you're 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.800 gonna get a job. You're not going to fall into 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.080 this because it's easy to kind of get comfortable with. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.119 You're getting cash at night, you are social, you're talking 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.920 to people, you kind of feel like you're part of it, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.160 but you're not. You're working. It can be very um enticing, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.360 and you can kind of lose years of your life 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.320 doing it. I've seen it happen to people, but my 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.320 mom always planted in my head, like, don't do that. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.160 So I started a blog. I don't know why. It's 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.320 the only thing in my life I've ever like started 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.840 on my own and really stuck with because I knew 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.320 at that time, if you tweeted your blog at somebody 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:37.839 and they clicked on it and they saw that you 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.839 had written like a post, they were going to know 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.960 you're not really a blogger. But if they click on 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.520 it and they see that you posted four times a day, oh, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.239 this is a legitimate website. In my head, that made sense. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:48.479 So I was like, let me just make sure I 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.920 write four things a day, and then when I want 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.280 to send it to somebody is like, check us out. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.880 If they click on it, maybe they'll like the blog. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.320 Nobody was reading it, and then um people started reading it, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:00.680 and then a come and he asked me to do 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.320 videos for them, and I was like I don't do 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.600 on camera stuff. I'm very uncomfortable on camera. Which I 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.760 was very uncomfortable on camera, but I learned and I 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.719 learned to get better at it. And I did that 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.760 out of my house for two years. And then somebody 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.640 was like, we're launching a sports network. Do you want 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.640 to be on it? And even my mom was like, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.599 you don't know enough. You can't do that. And I 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.240 was like, well, let them tell me that. Because they 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.080 said that, it's fine. So if they think I know enough, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.120 then I think I know enough and I won't ever 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.800 go on TV and say something without looking it up 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.520 first and familiarizing myself with it. She was like, deal. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.880 So I took it, and my career kind of grew 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.200 from there. So I thought my life was done when 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.120 I graduated, and it hadn't even started yet. You created 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.920 the whole thing. I had a lot of help. I 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.159 had a lot of help along the way. Good I'm glad, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.760 But nobody sat down and wrote the blog four times 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.760 a day. You put those things together. So it's it's 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.880 so cool, particularly when things are not going great. It's 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.520 sometimes hard, like in the present moment, when something's not 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.760 going great, looking back at an illustration of when that 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.360 was also happening, but feeling like, well, there's no way 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.680 that could happen twice, you know, but it always does. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.640 It's sometimes it's not on the timeline I think that 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.800 we expect and we go, Wow, I'm back in the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.000 shutter and nothing's working out. I do remember when this 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.760 happened before, But what are the chances that are happening again? 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.960 And that's hopefully when you know someone else goes just 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.360 take a deep breath, hang on, write something, go for 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.040 a walk, love your dog, Oh my god, that I 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.280 can do. I mean, I think that's what I do. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.119 I mean, what else are we supposed to do? Enjoy 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.960 it all, because then it's over very quickly. Yeah. Recently 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.320 I had a moment where I where like everything was 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.240 kind of crashing and falling apart, not going the way 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:35.640 that I thought it was going to go, and I 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.840 just remember finally just crying, like losing it, crying in 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.920 front of my boyfriend. He was in the other room 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.480 and we've been dating for I don't know, six months, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.760 and I remember thinking I was terrified that he was 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.880 gonna hear you know when you do that cry where 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.200 you're like and you just can't breathe. And I was like, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.400 he's gonna hear you, he's gonna think you're nuts. And 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.840 he came running around the corner and he was smiling 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.160 and he was like, finally, finally, He's like, let it out. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.560 This sucks, everything sucks. Let it out. Feel sad. You 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.400 have to feel this so you can stop feeling it 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.280 and get back to the thing that you're supposed to be. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.520 He's like, you are exactly where you're supposed to be. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.880 And I just remember that being so comforting of like, oh, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.640 you're not supposed to not feel it. You have to 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.400 feel it, so you can stop. But right now where 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.440 you are, stop trying to not be there, be there. 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.000 You're exactly where you're supposed to be. I think that's 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.520 hugely wise. It's difficult to do, and you do sometimes 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.680 you need someone else to say it's all right, this sucks, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.960 and it's allowed to suck for a minute or longer 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.760 than a minute. It's allowed to be bad, so that 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.040 you can then regroup and figure out what the next 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.199 move is and do that from a place of not 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.600 feeling hysterical or like you're keeping it all in for 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.360 everybody else's because it'll bubble up. Your stuff will always 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.920 find you. I think so. But I do think it's 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.440 constantly evolving, and I do think whatever looks like it's 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.560 not working out, it really genuinely is something else working out. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.920 And just being able to pause in those moments and 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.440 trust that. I mean, I don't know. I'm saying this 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:06.439 because it's what I need to listen to. What quality 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.840 do you like at least about yourself? I mean, how 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.120 much time you got? But the one that will always 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.920 I think haunt me is time management. I hate my 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.040 lack of an ability to manage time. I get very 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.960 caught up in my brain and I'm very curious, so 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.440 I follow a lot of paths, Like I could spend 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.360 an hour and a half reading about drama between two 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.120 people I've never met and don't know and I've never 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.880 heard of. Until I see a headline of this drama 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.400 that sounds interesting, I can read it and learn everything 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.840 about it and then just like not be bored for 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.160 an hour and a half and I can learn something 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.080 about me during that, And I can, but then I 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.400 just lose track of everything else. Scheduling things makes me 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.920 so anxious. I was ten minutes late, for this a 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.920 thing that was very important to me, and I'm in 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.840 my pajamas. I just find a way. But the most 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.880 generous reading I've had of that is my good friend 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.320 Mina Kimes, who also works in sports TV and is 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.440 brilliant and is our future and our queen. She said 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.240 she compared me to Andy Reid, and I know that 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.160 might not land with many, but I can explain it. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.320 He's a football coach who is very creative in his 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.400 play calling, but sometimes he gets so distracted by how 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.760 creative he wants to be that he doesn't realize that 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.400 the game is about to end, and so he runs 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.080 out of time to do the thing he wanted to 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.320 do because he was showing off all the things he 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:20.960 knows how to do. It was part of the thing 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.319 that's helped me see the good intentions of my weaknesses 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.760 and try to do my best at them where I can, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.000 and then be prepared to apologize for them or warn 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.920 people of them ahead of time, because nothing's worse than 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.800 disappointing people. Oh, but that's just part of yourself criticism. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.960 You know there are things worse than disappointing people. Yes, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.680 probably killing people. I think maybe after you've disappointed them. Yeah, 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.920 well then you have to exactly. I like that idea 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.719 that there isn't enough time. You can't say if your 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.360 best plays for when the clock's running out. It's true. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.520 You just have to do it, you really do, and 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.640 you really have to kind of I say this a lot. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.560 It's a soccer term, which is, even if it's going 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.360 really badly, you have to play to the last whistle, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.160 like you have to play with everything, which I think 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.439 is the other side of like don't save all your 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.559 creative play for the last fourteen seconds of a game. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.199 But I'm a procrastinator. That's what I do because if 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.640 I as soon as I write it, or film it 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.720 or put it on paper, whatever it is I'm making, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.840 then it's going to be done. And I don't want 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.840 it to be done. I like living in the part 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.760 where you're figuring it out until it's perfect. I don't 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.120 want to do it. But what about the idea that 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.840 like there's no there there and that it is never 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.320 going to be perfect? I know, what about letting go 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.560 of the idea of like this constraint you've put on 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.960 it and just be in the process, which you clearly 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.079 love because God knows you create. Everything is self generated 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.400 that you do, Everything is about you creating this content 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.280 and offering that up. And people clearly obsessively love what 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.520 you do. Even the people that don't get it, they 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.959 love what you do. I think that might be one 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.920 of the nicest things anyone said to me. That's very calm, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.400 but I do think it's true. It's like I was 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.440 looking at the people that haven't necessarily got it. That's okay. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.920 Like again, this notion of time throwing out the window, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.880 it's like you're just waiting for everybody else to catch up. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.120 That's what it seems to me. I hope that you 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.720 will be nicer to yourself about whatever you think you're 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:27.559 shortcomings off, because you're great. Where and when were you happiest? 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.160 I mean, it's hard. It's also a good question to 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.000 think about, if I can just delay answering it for 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.000 a second, because it's not the moments I find myself 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.600 thinking about the most. Like when I heard this question, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.439 it was like, well, if you ask me sadness, I 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.520 could give you top five off the top of my head. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.959 So it's good for me to go back through all 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.719 the good ones and think about it. Can I give 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.480 you two answers, because I think it shows the two 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.120 types of happiness that I value the most. One was 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.360 the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl fifty one, which I'm 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.439 sure you remember many driver, is when the Patriots beat 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.080 the Atlanta Falcons in overtime. It was the first overtime 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.319 in the Super Bowl. It was a game that they 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.840 were losing in the first half. It looked like it 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.760 was gonna be a loss. I'm a Patriots fan. I 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.199 had been in Houston for the week hosting my own 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.360 show on TV Live, which I had never really done before, 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.079 so it was a big accomplishment for me. It didn't 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.880 go perfectly, but I at least learned a lot. I 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.320 had like, it's a very small appearance on my favorite 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.160 show in the world, the reason why I want to 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.760 do this with my life, The Daily Show. I had 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.240 done a silly like here's what's happening on social media, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.400 but it was my parents saw me on the Super Bowl, 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.319 which you know, they were so proud, and I got 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.960 to shout out my family on the Super Bowl. And 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.160 then I was at the game and the Patriots came back, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.960 tied the game, we went to overtime, we won. I 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.200 got down on the field and got to hug a 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.480 player on the Patriots who I met through my job, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.360 Martellis Bennett, after he had just won the Super Bowl. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.160 I remember standing there and being like, this is is 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.440 the peak of your life. This is the coolest moment 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.920 that working and your job has gotten you to this 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.719 place where And I don't think I really noticed then 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.720 fully the extent of my happiness, but looking back at 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.760 it now where we are in the world, everything was 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.280 kind of perfect. It was such a celebratory moment. The 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:22.120 second moment couldn't be more different, but feels almost the 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.920 same in my heart. It was during the quarantine. I 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.400 had woken up early for work. I was filming a 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.040 TV show out of a spare bedroom of my house. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.400 I put on a full face and makeup, which I 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.840 still have no idea how to do myself. God bless 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.800 hair and makeup. That's what I've learned over these last 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.600 couple of years. One of the many lessons is that 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.720 those people are angels and I need them in my life. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.400 But I just put on this full face and makeup 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.480 and done a fifteen minute hit from some room, and 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.440 then I came back into my bedroom and my boyfriend 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.480 and my dog were cuddled up asleep, and I just 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.720 got back in bed with them and snuggled them, and 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.000 I was like, this is it's all for this. These 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.320 are the moments that I'll look back on and be 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:04.080 like lived I loved. Things were bad, things were bad, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.480 world things were bad, and my job situation was bad, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.080 and it was a time of unrest, but in that 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.520 moment we still found peace. I think that's why I 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.840 value you know, so when you say happiest, it's like, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.360 not everything was the best, but that was exactly what 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:22.160 my soul needed that day. Well. I do think that's 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.240 the bit that we don't talk about enough, is that 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.600 happiness is not necessarily qualified by everything being happy. There 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.560 at these moments that we recognize happiness sometimes incredibly challenging. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.720 What year was that that they beat the falcons in 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:43.200 in overtime? It was twenty seventeen. It was the before times. Yes, yes, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.000 before we knew well, but we kind of thought we knew, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.400 but we didn't know. You know, well, I feel like, 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.880 you know, Trump was the helpful herald of the pestilence 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.960 that was coming. So actually your right sort of bang 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.360 in the middle of it. That does sound. Even as 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.720 somebody for whom football is a completely different game, I 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.600 can appreciate how absolutely astonishing that moment must have been. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.880 Oh my god, it was unbelievable. And it's not like, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.760 you know, it would have been obviously a better movie 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.760 in the movie version of it. It would have been 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.280 like the Patriots first Super Bowl, like they had one, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.600 they had the capacity to win, but it was the 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.760 way that they were completely down the first half. It 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.120 was awful. Brady had thrown a pick at the end 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.640 of the second quarter and it was just like, what's happening? 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.040 And then it just it was beautiful. It was awesome. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.680 So let me ask you this, because again with my 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.280 whatever the opposite of encyclopediac is, that's my knowledge about 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.360 American football. How is it being a fan of a 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.080 team that is never the underdog? And I'm I'm assuming 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.680 that they are never the underdog soon once it all 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.880 wears off, because you know, sports fans memories kind of 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.040 linger for a while. We don't like to move on, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.080 is one thing I've learned working in this industry, And 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.600 so like that narrative is gonna last for a while, 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.960 but they'll be underdogs against soon and people are gonna 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.720 love it. But it's funny because I grew up with 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:04.359 my dad complaining about how Boston fans couldn't catch a break, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.840 the Red Sox, the Patriots. It's just like let down 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.600 after letdown. He was not a basketball guy, so I 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.840 probably back then would have been like, you should have 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.480 liked the Celtics that went well, But he raised me 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.680 to think that we had been down trodden. And then 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.680 sort of by the time I came into my own 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.680 understanding of my sports fandom as I'm hitting high school 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.800 and then college, we were just winning all the time, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.120 and so it was like I now feel like I 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.040 was spoiled, but at the time I felt like I 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.800 had inherited my Dad's like, no, no, this, we deserved this. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.920 But it's like, yeah, but I didn't deserve my dad 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.800 deserved it. And I'll tell you my dad didn't even 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.879 enjoy it as much as he probably would have thought 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.400 that he did because he never trusted He never trusted 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.399 the Red Sox. He never let them like become the winners, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:48.920 and then he was like, I can count on them 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.840 to win. It was like the second they would lose, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.760 he was like, ah, they stink and would just bail 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.359 on him. And it was just this to me, stereotypical 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.359 attitude of a person from Boston towards sports that never 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.560 fully changed if you experienced the pain of it, because 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.240 you always knew it was just around the corner. So 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.359 I tried to slow him down and tell him, like, 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.680 this is the good. Enjoy the good while it's here. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.120 I know. I think that's what I'm interested in. It's 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.040 like the loss of Like I loved my football team, 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.159 my soccer team when we were shipped, and then I 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.000 loved it when everybody gave us ship for the rich 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.680 Russian coming and augmenting our team, and it changed everything. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.480 And now we're back in the shitter with the government 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.440 basically taking bids on who's going to buy the team 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.680 that I've supported since I was a kid. Like, it's weird, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.800 but I think those vicissitudes as a fan those verse 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.800 did you say vicissitudes? Vicissitudes ups and downs in a 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.240 ten cent word? I love? What a good word is that? 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.760 A C there V I C. You don't have to 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.040 know this, mini driver, I'll google it. V I C 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.760 I S S I T U D E S. Vicissitudes, vicissitudes, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.200 That's what I would have guessed I would have gotten 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.720 that in a spelling ups and downs, Katie, ups and downs, Yes, exactly. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.600 But I think that's part of what is. It's like everything. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.320