Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Drive to the Great episode three point
Speaker 1: thirty one, in what could be something of a frenetic episode,
Speaker 1: because we have the NBA Playoffs from last night, the
Speaker 1: Monsee Celtics stay alive. The Timberwolves, after making one conference
Speaker 1: finals in their franchise history, have now made consecutive conference finals.
Speaker 1: An unbelievably important Game six on deck between Thunder and Nuggets.
Speaker 1: And despite all that, one could argue the biggest story
Speaker 1: in the sports world right now is the NFL schedule release,
Speaker 1: which is why actually we are going to lead the
Speaker 1: show with none of those topics. I'll explain that in
Speaker 1: a second. But the other reason DEMANDE today's show is
Speaker 1: frenetic is because there is a chance, and I hope
Speaker 1: you're ready, that at some point during the show I
Speaker 1: have to get up for a few minutes and you
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Speaker 1: to start the show talking about math. Demonsay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: Oh all right?
Speaker 2: So the draft, the draft lottery is on Monday. We
Speaker 2: opened the show up on Tuesday talking about it, and
Speaker 2: here we are again today.
Speaker 3: You want to discuss it again? Is it more conspiracy stuff? What?
Speaker 1: No? I so this is so listen. I won't spare
Speaker 1: a ton of time on this. I will get to
Speaker 1: the basketball, I promise, But I feel, I honestly feel
Speaker 1: a responsibility in this moment because this is everything that
Speaker 1: is going on surrounding the Draft Lottery is just either
Speaker 1: a microcosm or an a metaphor for so much of
Speaker 1: the conspiracy bullshit that has pervaded every aspect of our lives,
Speaker 1: where it is folks asserting things that are just simply untrue,
Speaker 1: combined with folks total inability to do simple math. So
Speaker 1: I won't spend ten minutes on it like I did
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, but I am going to address because
Speaker 1: I made the mistake of reading some of the comments
Speaker 1: on our video when I said everyone who believes the
Speaker 1: draft is rigged as an idiot. And there are two
Speaker 1: or three kind of overwhelming comments. One of them is this, listen.
Speaker 1: I don't want to believe it's rigged, but it's awful
Speaker 1: fishy that they won't let us see the lottery balls
Speaker 1: get picked and the process. And the reason that is
Speaker 1: so upsetting is because they do let you see it.
Speaker 1: It's on the NBA's YouTube page. You can watch it
Speaker 1: right now. In fact, if we tweet out this clip,
Speaker 1: let's then also tweet a link in the replies to
Speaker 1: where everyone can watch it. And so the reason that
Speaker 1: is irritating is that is you see this in life
Speaker 1: and in politics and on the internet all the time,
Speaker 1: which is why have they been hiding this from us?
Speaker 1: And it's like it was on page three of the
Speaker 1: budget that was released and has been on the US
Speaker 1: government whatever, oh excuse me website all year. The idea
Speaker 1: that because you are unaware that something exists for you
Speaker 1: to see it doesn't exist. The idea that something is
Speaker 1: being hidden when simply because it hasn't been posted to
Speaker 1: your idiot Telegram group chat or any of your Facebook groups,
Speaker 1: it's not hidden. You just haven't looked for it. That's
Speaker 1: the first thing. The second thing is, and this is
Speaker 1: really in my sweet spot, people's inability to understand how
Speaker 1: math works. And one of the reasons, and sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna nerd for a moment, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: math is great is because it is unambiguous. It is
Speaker 1: there is no other side to the r argument. It's
Speaker 1: just the numbers. And one of the most common comments
Speaker 1: we got after it went MAVs Spurs six ers one
Speaker 1: two three, is the odds of those three teams getting
Speaker 1: those three picks were, you know, point zero zero one percent.
Speaker 1: How do you explain that? And now set aside that
Speaker 1: the fact that when people were crunching those numbers, they
Speaker 1: were actually not doing that math correctly, because what they
Speaker 1: were doing was taking the odds pre draft of those
Speaker 1: teams going one, two, three and then doing the math
Speaker 1: there when, of course, the odds reset slightly once the
Speaker 1: first pick has been off the board, and that the
Speaker 1: MAVs chances of getting the second pick are now zero.
Speaker 1: Their odds of getting the second pick are distributed amongst
Speaker 1: the rest of the teams. But don't worry about that,
Speaker 1: because that's at least an understandable and a marginal error.
Speaker 1: But here's what people don't understand, and this is what
Speaker 1: I'm going to explain quickly, and then we will move on.
Speaker 1: If the lottery stayed perfect, if no one jumped anyone,
Speaker 1: it would have gone Jazz, Wizards, hornets. That would have
Speaker 1: been the chalk outcome. And this is where people don't
Speaker 1: understand math or probabilities. Do you guys know, the most
Speaker 1: likely one two three Jazz, Wizards, hornets. What the odds
Speaker 1: of that being the exact one two three that we
Speaker 1: got were it's the most likely? What are the odds?
Speaker 1: And the answer to that is zero point two percent,
Speaker 1: one in five hundred the most likely. Because again, what
Speaker 1: you need is a fourteen percent chance to come in
Speaker 1: for the jazz, and then after that a thirteen percent
Speaker 1: chance to come in for the wizards, and then after
Speaker 1: that a twelve percent chance to come in for the hornets.
Speaker 1: And again we're gonna we're doing the rough calculations here,
Speaker 1: but fourteen percent of thirteen percent of twelve percent gives
Speaker 1: you point zero two percent, which is to say this,
Speaker 1: every single outcome was incredibly unlikely, but we were guaranteed
Speaker 1: one of them. And I am only focused on this
Speaker 1: because I actually think this is I can't call it
Speaker 1: a Canarian the coal mine because the whole world already
Speaker 1: has black lung on this. We are so far down
Speaker 1: the road. The Canarian the coal mine on all of
Speaker 1: this was actually when it liked sports conspiracies and was
Speaker 1: it a warning signal for the rest of us of
Speaker 1: other conspiracies? Was the Kyrie irving flat earth stuff? That
Speaker 1: was the uh oh. If you're willing to say that's debatable,
Speaker 1: then what you mean is there is no objective truth
Speaker 1: in anything. But when you have a monitored, video, authenticated process,
Speaker 1: who no matter what, because no team has better than
Speaker 1: a fourteen percent chance of getting the number one pick
Speaker 1: and because of the way the NBA has rejiggered the odds.
Speaker 1: When you have that, those are the facts that we
Speaker 1: all can see, and it is still an overwhelmingly held
Speaker 1: opinion that the shit is rigged. It is further evidence
Speaker 1: that as a collective, our ability to have a agreed upon
Speaker 1: set of facts that we all then understand our reality
Speaker 1: and then operate or debate or move, you know, according
Speaker 1: to how we feel that we should in that reality.
Speaker 1: It's fraying, and it's dangerous, so we can be done
Speaker 1: with it here. But I am I'm not overreacting and
Speaker 1: I'm not wrong, and I'm not trying to just like
Speaker 1: be like, look at me, I can do math. I
Speaker 1: am saying that there is a real cost to be
Speaker 1: paid for all of us if we, as a collective
Speaker 1: just start to feel like anything that happens that isn't
Speaker 1: what I expected to happen. There must be an invisible
Speaker 1: hand guiding why it happened. And it is doubly dangerous
Speaker 1: when it is very very easy to see. Watch the
Speaker 1: process yourself and see how unriggable it is. Crunch the
Speaker 1: numbers yourself and see how even though this was very unlikely,
Speaker 1: every single possible outcome was very unlikely. And even under
Speaker 1: those circumstances, You're like, eh, feels fishy to me. It's dangerous,
Speaker 1: all right, lecture.
Speaker 3: Over, Adam Silver, thanks you for your service.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, can I tell you one other thing
Speaker 1: on that and then will be done. Speaking of Adam Silver,
Speaker 1: this was tweeted and this is what really set me off.
Speaker 1: I am going to read you and describe to you
Speaker 1: the tweet, and then I'm gonna tell you who tweeted it.
Speaker 1: After making big trades just months before the NBA Draft lottery.
Speaker 1: These teams ended up winning it, and it was like
Speaker 1: the exploding head emoji, like wow, you know, you know
Speaker 1: the mind is blown emoji, and it talks about uh
Speaker 1: Lebron signing with the Heat Chris Paul traded to the Clippers.
Speaker 1: A D traded Lakers, and Luke had traded the Lakers,
Speaker 1: which is just stoking the conspiracy nonsense flames. The account
Speaker 1: that tweeted that was the NBA on ESPN, the official
Speaker 1: account Adam Silver should have been Bamani text this, text
Speaker 1: me this and the and I don't want to, I
Speaker 1: don't want to read. Just Bamani won't care. He didn't
Speaker 1: Bamani text it. I'd hit the roof about this if
Speaker 1: I was Adam Silver. You're damn straight. It's so well,
Speaker 1: it's it is. It is so much worse than the
Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff about the chiefs and the officials, because that
Speaker 1: at least people could convince themselves, well, maybe you know
Speaker 1: it's one person's bias, one referee or an individual decision,
Speaker 1: rather than a multi decade, multi dozen human being conspiracy
Speaker 1: to what end? And so and again, I keep saying
Speaker 1: I'll leave it like the MAVs winning the lottery was
Speaker 1: only slightly slightly more unlikely or less likely than the
Speaker 1: Hawks winning it last year to get Alex Saar and
Speaker 1: and nobody cared that that team jumped from ten to
Speaker 1: one because it was Alex Saar. But again, like it's
Speaker 1: so stupid, It's just so stupid. All right, we'll get
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Speaker 1: co slash b ball. Also my mistake that the Hawks
Speaker 1: got Resa sche not Alex Sar. It was such a
Speaker 1: relevant draft, I forgot who went first. You guys understood
Speaker 1: the point. All right, demons, Now we can get to
Speaker 1: your Celtics and my dogs.
Speaker 2: They won last night, got that twenty five point dub
Speaker 2: over there in Boston without Tatum.
Speaker 3: To let that be noted.
Speaker 2: So who do you think is the biggest winner here?
Speaker 2: Boston staying alive, New York having a chance to win
Speaker 2: it in.
Speaker 3: Their building, or the Pacers.
Speaker 2: It was just like sitting outside while these guys are
Speaker 2: dueling it out.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say what I think, a little
Speaker 1: birdie told me. You now think the Celtics are going
Speaker 1: to complete the comeback?
Speaker 2: Is that court They got a one hundred percent They
Speaker 2: gotta win the next game. They got to win game six.
Speaker 2: If well, obviously they have to win game six to
Speaker 2: win the series. But I'm just saying, if if the
Speaker 2: Knicks lose this next game, the Celtics are not gonna
Speaker 2: lose Game seven. We're obviously built to lose a player.
Speaker 2: It's our best player. But I think we're we can
Speaker 2: definitely deal with the Knicks without Tatum, as we showed
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna be a very common opinion today. Sometimes
Speaker 1: Demonse and I do this show and Demanse, who has
Speaker 1: no didn't go to school for sports broadcasting. Really, it
Speaker 1: was never like it's not people maybe don't know this,
Speaker 1: but like and maybe they'll be surprised by it. It's
Speaker 1: not like Demonse growing up with me was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I want to follow my dad's footsteps and do sports media.
Speaker 1: Like that's That's not what this was ever. So it
Speaker 1: was just kind of a happy accident thanks to our
Speaker 1: friends at Blue Duck that you and I ended up
Speaker 1: trying this together and now we've done it for at
Speaker 1: what for years.
Speaker 3: We're supposed to just be said of.
Speaker 1: The exactly right. But sometimes Demands has a take despite
Speaker 1: that last that lack of what we would call classical training,
Speaker 1: that is then almost the exact same take I hear
Speaker 1: on TV, or sometimes I hear from Brew or Wild's
Speaker 1: later in the day, and it always makes me happy.
Speaker 1: It makes me happier when I think it's a good take,
Speaker 1: unlike this one, which I think is where are we
Speaker 1: going here a very commonly held, misbegotten take. So I
Speaker 1: think there is going to be a considerable overreaction to
Speaker 1: last night, a game where the Knicks understandably, we're going
Speaker 1: to be a little less feel, a little bit of
Speaker 1: a less sense of urgency, a game where Boston was
Speaker 1: going to have the energy of the crowd, and a
Speaker 1: game where it was tied at halftime and then Brunson
Speaker 1: gets five fouls in eight minutes and the game's over
Speaker 1: like there. And so here is why I listen, good
Speaker 1: for Boston. Here is why I think you are overstating
Speaker 1: how well Boston is built to handle the loss of Tatum. Now,
Speaker 1: it is good they got Sam Hauser back yesterday, and
Speaker 1: you know, hit his injury in Game one of this
Speaker 1: series was significant, and you know, not having him available
Speaker 1: to come off the bench hurt them in the middle
Speaker 1: part of this series. It's nice they got him back.
Speaker 1: But the Celtics obviously don't have Jason Tatum. They also,
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, don't have Chris STAPs. Porzingis
Speaker 1: happy for Luke Cornett that he had that game last night.
Speaker 1: That is not duplicable on any level at any time. Again,
Speaker 1: Derek White's awesome. I don't think he's got another thirty
Speaker 1: four point game in his future.
Speaker 3: That's more duplicable though.
Speaker 1: Well certainly certainly more than Luke Cornett Damn Near Avenue
Speaker 1: seventy double. And so I look at Game six, and
Speaker 1: the other thing was a Towns was kind of got
Speaker 1: himself out of it with foul trouble. OG was horrifying.
Speaker 1: In this game was one for twelve Mikhale Bridges, who
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna play really well. He did, and
Speaker 1: he was four for fourteen. So all of those things
Speaker 1: conspired to where the Knicks, and then the Knicks also,
Speaker 1: you know, let go of the rope a bit. So
Speaker 1: I think the Knicks will win Friday. But here is
Speaker 1: maybe the more controversial opinion, or not controversial but unconventional opinion.
Speaker 1: Even if they lose Friday, I think they absolutely can
Speaker 1: win a Game seven in Boston. I think that the
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics, the idea of the Boston Celtics is very
Speaker 1: different than the current reality of the Boston Celtics, which
Speaker 1: is the Boston Celtics right now are a team whose
Speaker 1: best player is Jalen Brown, whose second best player is
Speaker 1: Derek White, whose third and fourth best players are guys
Speaker 1: in their mid to late thirties in Holiday and Horford,
Speaker 1: who have not yet shown at any point in this
Speaker 1: series they can in back to back games give you
Speaker 1: high level, impactful minutes. And then we're down to the
Speaker 1: Pritchard Cornett tier of guys because Chris STAPs is out.
Speaker 1: He's not out, but he might as well be. Chris
Speaker 1: STAPs is not giving you anything. Tatum is out, and
Speaker 1: I just don't think Holliday and Horford are going to
Speaker 1: be as effective in Game six with a day rest
Speaker 1: as they were in Game five. And so for all
Speaker 1: those reasons, I think that the and throwing the rundown.
Speaker 1: What are the DraftKings? Okay, they already did good job, guys.
Speaker 1: Boston is down to plus two twenty five to win
Speaker 1: the series, so the Knicks are probably like minus two sixty.
Speaker 1: I I think that the Knicks take care of business
Speaker 1: in six, and even if they don't, I minus two
Speaker 1: seventy five for New York. I think that Jalen Brunton
Speaker 1: in a Game seven is not going to be intimidated
Speaker 1: by a place where he won games one and to now.
Speaker 1: I will say this for the nixt chances of making
Speaker 1: the finals. Game seven is avoiding a Game seven is
Speaker 1: super valuable to them and having a little more time off,
Speaker 1: especially because the Pacers play at such an insane pace
Speaker 1: and because the Pacers are so deep. Now I want
Speaker 1: to ask you, this is one of those things that
Speaker 1: just don't clip this. If someone else clips it, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're right, Demanse. This is just a theoretical
Speaker 1: question and it's and by the way, there is no
Speaker 1: value judgment here. Okay, we all agree last night Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum was rooting for the Celtics, and we all agree
Speaker 1: that in Game six he will be rooting for the
Speaker 1: Celtics if they pull this off. Will there is there
Speaker 1: any point in these playoffs where what you would call,
Speaker 1: I guess those intrusive thoughts in his head is like, okay,
Speaker 1: now we can all right. It's like I'm just I
Speaker 1: maybe this is an indictment on me. But like if
Speaker 1: if I all of a sudden, if I got if
Speaker 1: I had to have some type of like medical procedure
Speaker 1: and I was and they're like, man, Nick's gonna be
Speaker 1: out for first things first for the next three months.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I would be like all right, fellas,
Speaker 1: keep it rolling, you know what I mean? Keep it rolling.
Speaker 1: I'd be really happy if like three weeks in I
Speaker 1: got like a I saw a PR alert and it
Speaker 1: was like first things first record setting ratings, and then
Speaker 1: like a week later it was like Emmy nominated. At
Speaker 1: some point I might be like, all right, we can
Speaker 1: you know, we can have some rough shows here, like
Speaker 1: and so there.
Speaker 2: I could see that would be in the thought process.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I think it's.
Speaker 1: Not an indictment, and that's not Tatum specific.
Speaker 3: That is human characteristic, right, And I.
Speaker 1: Would be saying that same thing if you know, let's
Speaker 1: say Steph's injury instead of being one step obviously really
Speaker 1: wanted the Warriors to somehow pull it out because he
Speaker 1: was coming back. He's like, if you could just stay alive,
Speaker 1: I can come or maybe he was coming back. But
Speaker 1: if Steph's injury was like where he's out three months, maybe,
Speaker 1: like I feel like there'd be a point where even
Speaker 1: where Steph would be like, Okay, you can beat the Timberwolves,
Speaker 1: but let's not get a ring here. I don't know
Speaker 1: the all right, so let's do a Celtics follow U
Speaker 1: before we get to the other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now that Tatum's injury is officially official and
Speaker 2: he's likely to miss all of next year, you've had
Speaker 2: more time to think about it. Which dominoes have been
Speaker 2: affected the most?
Speaker 1: Well? Did we talk about? Like I think one of
Speaker 1: the first non Celtics related dominoes is what does this
Speaker 1: mean for Giannis?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Does Giannis decide, i'd I'll give it one more year?
Speaker 1: Does Yiannis decide I still want to be traded, but
Speaker 1: staying East if I can sure, seems attractive to me?
Speaker 1: Like where you know, what does what does Giannis does?
Speaker 1: How does Yiannis look at this as far as what
Speaker 1: his decision should be, because and this was the thing
Speaker 1: I might have said on Tuesday, if we are if
Speaker 1: Yiannis goes West and Tatum is out for the year
Speaker 1: next year, the all NBA teams, I would imagine the
Speaker 1: East has three guys that have like would be all
Speaker 1: NBA is the wrong way to do it. Just of
Speaker 1: the fifteen best players in the sport, the East has
Speaker 1: three of them, Jalen Brunson, Donovan, Mitchell, Tyrese Haliburton and
Speaker 1: everyone else is out West. And so the other major
Speaker 1: domino that this impacts obviously is Celtics related, which is
Speaker 1: they were already going to trim salary somewhat. Now I
Speaker 1: think they probably have to trim it massively, and I
Speaker 1: would if I'm a Celtic fan. I am just kind
Speaker 1: of at peace with the fact that the next time
Speaker 1: Tatum plays, the team is going to look very very different,
Speaker 1: and I listen, I trust Missoula and I really trust
Speaker 1: Brad Stevens. What I am hoping for is the next
Speaker 1: time Tatum plays, Jalen Brown is still his wingman, because
Speaker 1: we have proof of concept that that works. And I
Speaker 1: would be a little nervous if I were Boston At.
Speaker 1: I would be a little nervous if I were Boston
Speaker 1: At eme Udoka and the Rockets pope around my team
Speaker 1: this offseason. And I guess nervous is the wrong word
Speaker 1: because it's all via trade, but I do if Celtics
Speaker 1: are going to come available, I would think Emai Oudoka
Speaker 1: in the Houston Rockets if they don't get Yannis, would
Speaker 1: be the team that is potentially most interested there. And
Speaker 1: what that you know what that means now? Again, you
Speaker 1: trust Brad Stevens to make good trades, and he's been very,
Speaker 1: very good So those are my biggest kind of takeaways
Speaker 1: now that we know, we talked a lot about this
Speaker 1: on Tuesday because we didn't know, but we kind of
Speaker 1: knew that it was going.
Speaker 3: To be what it was.
Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about the other game last night, and.
Speaker 2: The Timberwolves are headed to the Western Conference Finals for
Speaker 2: the second year in a row. Mentioned that earlier Tuesday show,
Speaker 2: you said that you were on amused.
Speaker 3: With what Minnesota has been doing.
Speaker 2: Have you seen anything, You've seen anything in that last
Speaker 2: game maybe convince you that they're gonna turn it around
Speaker 2: next round.
Speaker 1: All right, so here is here's the optimists view on
Speaker 1: Minnesota playing I don't know a total of forty five
Speaker 1: good minutes in that entire series, like the third quarter
Speaker 1: of Game four, moments last night, and you know a
Speaker 1: few other various spots. Is after running out of gas
Speaker 1: by his own proclamation in round by the end of
Speaker 1: round two last year, Anthony Edwards learned from it and
Speaker 1: was like, you know what we I can I can
Speaker 1: save some of the nitrous tank for this next round
Speaker 1: because I don't need to. I don't need to deal
Speaker 1: with this. I don't need to go all out in
Speaker 1: this round. What I will tell you is Minnesota has
Speaker 1: to play drastically better in the next round to have
Speaker 1: a chance to have a chance against Oklahoma City or
Speaker 1: even to beat Denver. And I think Denver, we'll talk Denver, Okay,
Speaker 1: see in a minute. So I think that there was
Speaker 1: an understandable intensity let down once it was clear Steph
Speaker 1: was out, and once it was clear that the Warriors
Speaker 1: simply did not have any offensive punch. But they do.
Speaker 1: They absolutely need to be much much better. But what
Speaker 1: I will also say is this already has been a
Speaker 1: successful season. I know that Timberwls don't want to hear.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, we've never been to the finals. We
Speaker 1: want to make the finals. And of course, and you
Speaker 1: could make the finals, but you it was pretty shocking
Speaker 1: that they made the conference finals last year because nobody
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna beat Denver, certainly after they won
Speaker 1: the first two against Denver and then lost three in
Speaker 1: a row, and certainly not during Game seven they were
Speaker 1: down twenty points in Denver. And then this year it
Speaker 1: looked like that trade was a mistake and that they
Speaker 1: were going to take a major step back, and now
Speaker 1: they're in the exact same spot. And so I think
Speaker 1: that they you are you you have to be incredibly
Speaker 1: optimistic about the next half decade right now if you're
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. But you also have to feel like, man,
Speaker 1: I know Ant's young, but the bracket might not break
Speaker 1: better than this for us again, particularly about who you
Speaker 1: potentially could be seeing in the NBA Finals. So there's
Speaker 1: a huge, huge moment obviously for the Timberwolves, and they
Speaker 1: just need to be better than they were really in
Speaker 1: this entire series. I don't think the Timberwolves have played
Speaker 1: an A plus game or even an A game starting
Speaker 1: to finish since Game four against the Lakers, and it
Speaker 1: is like really surprising and impressive. I guess that they
Speaker 1: were able to close out the Lakers and then win
Speaker 1: five of six against Golden State despite not playing their best.
Speaker 1: All Right, Demonse, what I know, we have a bunch
Speaker 1: of follow ups.
Speaker 3: Here, Indiana.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're in the same boat as Minnesota.
Speaker 2: You know, they made it to their to the Eastern
Speaker 2: Conference Finals last year and they're both kind of showing
Speaker 2: it's not a fluke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yes, I think that both for both
Speaker 1: of those teams. We looked at their conference finals appearances
Speaker 1: and put them in the same bucket that we put
Speaker 1: the Blazers like six years ago and the Hawks a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Like, ah, I mean, that's cool, but
Speaker 1: it's probably not, you know, really indicative of who they
Speaker 1: are and the fact that they both responded by not
Speaker 1: only getting to the conference back to the conference finals,
Speaker 1: but getting back there in dominant fashion. I mean, neither
Speaker 1: of those teams have played a game six in these playoffs,
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Neither have played a game six in these playoffs. That's
Speaker 1: really impressive. All right, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: Who do you think Minnesota is rooting for in the series? Denver,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: Well, they're definitely rooting for Denver tonight, right, that's unequivocal
Speaker 1: because they want that thing to go seven. And then
Speaker 1: if I were them, I would be rooting for Denver
Speaker 1: because Denver would be back to back seven game series
Speaker 1: with a five and a half man team, and so
Speaker 1: I would I would just feel like, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: the rest and the youth and the legs. They wouldn't
Speaker 1: have home court over either one of them. But they
Speaker 1: are definitively rooting for Denver tonight, and then I would think,
Speaker 1: probably as terrifying as Joker is, you guys beat him
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, and I think you feel
Speaker 1: better about that matchup. All right, let's keep going.
Speaker 2: Are you are you surprised by Julius Randall popping off
Speaker 2: in the postseason.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked, and it's really impressive and he deserves a
Speaker 1: ton of credit. He was a historically bad postseason performer
Speaker 1: in it granted a limited sample, but it also him
Speaker 1: being a bad playoff guy to me meshed with how
Speaker 1: I viewed him as a player, which was kind of
Speaker 1: empty calories at times, kind of a played a selfish
Speaker 1: style of basketball, and he was unbelievable last night. He
Speaker 1: then had I thought, a really good postgame interview where
Speaker 1: he was like, that was number eight. We just need
Speaker 1: number nine. You know, I'm not worried about myself. And
Speaker 1: it seemed he seemed like just much more adult and mature,
Speaker 1: which maybe is what you like. That's what happens as
Speaker 1: you age. And he's been excellent, like really excellent. He
Speaker 1: has been better these playoffs than Kats has been. What
Speaker 1: it oh. On that note, one thing the Timberwolves really
Speaker 1: need in this next round is Dante to get rolling again.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of us thought Dante was a sneaky,
Speaker 1: huge part of that trade. And Dante has not been
Speaker 1: in this postseason what we saw him like for the
Speaker 1: nixt But I am listen. Ton of credit to Julius Randall,
Speaker 1: a ton of credit and he did like I didn't
Speaker 1: see that coming, and he's been excellent and that's really impressive.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Next after the game, kurr insaid, if Curry hadn't got injured,
Speaker 2: that he saw them, the Warriors going the distance, how
Speaker 2: do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Okay, people are gonna get mad again. But now this
Speaker 1: is where I again sadly.
Speaker 3: Have to.
Speaker 1: Again. I'm just here to create balance in the sports
Speaker 1: media ecosystem, and if at times that means I have to,
Speaker 1: as I said, play the ras al Ghoul role, I'll
Speaker 1: do it. I was wrong when I laid out the
Speaker 1: different ways Steph Curry, one of the twelve gradest players ever,
Speaker 1: a face of the league for the better part of
Speaker 1: a decade, one of the most likable, unique impactful players
Speaker 1: of any era. I was wrong when I laid out
Speaker 1: how the narratives go with him, which is when he
Speaker 1: has a great game and they look awesome, He's better
Speaker 1: than magic, and it's do we need to put him
Speaker 1: in the goat conversation, and when they missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: or get bounced early, it's we just move on to
Speaker 1: the next thing. I didn't realize there was a third
Speaker 1: branch of that tree, and that branch Demon's is if
Speaker 1: they lose without him, it actually helps his goat case.
Speaker 1: Look at like, look at what that team looked like
Speaker 1: without Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Wait, why are you sounding like this is bs? Like
Speaker 2: this is like that's like it it it it does it?
Speaker 2: I mean, does it not make him look better that
Speaker 2: he's winning? Like that they they did what they did
Speaker 2: against Minnesota without him, like, look a lot different if
Speaker 2: they had Curry.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I I guess I'm just, you know, a
Speaker 1: cave man. I of course they would have looked better
Speaker 1: without with Curry, obviously. I just don't think that getting
Speaker 1: clocked in round two helps your historical hierarchy case. I'm
Speaker 1: weird like that.
Speaker 3: I heard that.
Speaker 1: I understand. I'm not saying it should hurt his case.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you dingy, but I am not going
Speaker 1: to do what folks are doing already this morning, which
Speaker 1: is well now, Actually, what Steph was able to do
Speaker 1: was even more impressive Steph carrying this team. This team
Speaker 1: was below five hundred before they traded for Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 1: Like Steph was, Steph was carrying them to the play
Speaker 1: in again, which is where they did end up. And
Speaker 1: and like that again, I like Steph Curry. There's no
Speaker 1: way not to like Steph Curry.
Speaker 4: But the the Calvin Ball of his historical greatness discussions
Speaker 4: being heads you win, tails his opponent loses is just
Speaker 4: a sight to be seen because.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, for the and here's
Speaker 1: the other piece of it that nobody, I think everybody knows,
Speaker 1: but nobody wants to bring up injuries like Jason Tatum's.
Speaker 1: Forget the severity of it, just the way he suffered
Speaker 1: it are just horrible, awful luck. Like there's nothing you
Speaker 1: know what I mean that there's nothing could have been
Speaker 1: done right. It was like Paul George in the Olympics,
Speaker 1: or you know, like one off Flukes, like damn. Steph
Speaker 1: Curry's injury was one of the catalysts that was that
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors when Steph Curry was playing, needed
Speaker 1: seven brutal games to beat Houston. And because of that,
Speaker 1: at age thirty seven, at that workload at that responsibility.
Speaker 1: Game one of this series, he suffered a soft tissue injury.
Speaker 1: If the team had played better in Round one, I
Speaker 1: don't think he suffers that hamstring injury. So it all
Speaker 1: is connected and so like, that's that's not some like
Speaker 1: hot take. That's just obvious. And it's why you don't
Speaker 1: want to need to go seven in round one. It's
Speaker 1: why you don't want and this is on the Warriors
Speaker 1: to have such a heavy offensive burden on Steph all
Speaker 1: of that. But I what I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: is be a party to the conversations of man oh man.
Speaker 1: If Steph didn't get hurt, the Warriors could have won
Speaker 1: the championship when we saw that at thirty seven years old,
Speaker 1: given the way the Warriors are built and what is
Speaker 1: asked of Steph that he was he had a hard
Speaker 1: time getting through two and a half weeks of playoff basketball,
Speaker 1: much less two months. That's not that's not mean, that's
Speaker 1: not unfair. That's just aging basketball players, just like it's
Speaker 1: not mean or unfair to say playoff Jimmy is what
Speaker 1: I worried it was going to be, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: he makes surprise cameo appearances and then oddly goes back
Speaker 1: to being a guy who looks totally disinterested in shooting
Speaker 1: the basketball, and the idea that playoff Jimmy next year,
Speaker 1: next year, when Steph is thirty eight, when Draymond is
Speaker 1: thirty six, when Jimmy is thirty six, that this Warriors
Speaker 1: team is all of a sudden going to be in
Speaker 1: a drastically different spot than it was this year, which
Speaker 1: is were what spot were the Warriors in this year?
Speaker 1: The only path they had to competing at the highest
Speaker 1: levels was a Steph Curry save us path, which is
Speaker 1: a testament to his greatness. And at thirty seven, that
Speaker 1: is a path he can only walk for a couple
Speaker 1: weeks at a time, and at thirty eight, we'll see
Speaker 1: how long. So that's that is the fair reading of it.
Speaker 1: The fantastical, make believe reading of it is man oh man.
Speaker 1: If Steph stayed healthy, they could have won the championship.
Speaker 1: They weren't a good enough team.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: They needed to be a better team, so they didn't
Speaker 1: need to ask Steph to do so much, so they
Speaker 1: wouldn't likely run into some type of Steph Curry either fatigue.
Speaker 1: Two years ago we saw this. It wasn't in the
Speaker 1: form of an injury. It was in the form of
Speaker 1: the team's not good enough. Therefore Steph has to do everything. Therefore,
Speaker 1: once we get to round two, he's not fully functional
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Two years ago, they needed seven to beat Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Steph in that game seven scored fifty t when he's
Speaker 1: thirty five, not when he's thirty seven, and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at what Steph Curry did. But
Speaker 1: the fact that he had to do all of that
Speaker 1: just to get to round two put him in a
Speaker 1: position where in round two he was fine. He was
Speaker 1: twenty seven a game on forty four percent from the
Speaker 1: field and thirty four percent from three, which is fine,
Speaker 1: but not going to be good enough because he fired
Speaker 1: all his bullets, going thirty for a game on forty
Speaker 1: nine percent from the field in thirty eight percent from
Speaker 1: three to get out of round one. So is Steph
Speaker 1: Curry still good enough to be the best player on
Speaker 1: a championship team? Yeah, similar to his old guy brethren Lebron.
Speaker 1: Does that team need to be incredibly well constructed and
Speaker 1: incredibly deep because it otherwise he's going to run out
Speaker 1: of gas? Yeah? Should any of this what happened this season?
Speaker 1: Change in a positive or a negative way. How you've
Speaker 1: used Steph Curry historically? Obviously not. Are there going to
Speaker 1: be a lot of dopey folks that use getting beaten
Speaker 1: in his team being beaten in round two in a
Speaker 1: wide open postseason as evidence of he's better than Magic Jon? Yes,
Speaker 1: and those people are out of their minds. Again, what agenda?
Speaker 1: I have an agenda? Go ahead, no tell me.
Speaker 2: Man, I honestly, I don't think they can be Like,
Speaker 2: I really don't even think those two players can be
Speaker 2: the best player on your team. I think probably the
Speaker 2: best off for Steph Curry to be the second best
Speaker 2: player on his team and they probably a better chance
Speaker 2: to getting a championship.
Speaker 3: Well, same with Lebron.
Speaker 1: Honestly, well, I mean it's here's the thing. In a way,
Speaker 1: what you're saying is being has been proven out in
Speaker 1: these playoffs, right. The point I'm making is I think
Speaker 1: that if you what's the right example of the team, Like,
Speaker 1: if you put Steph or Brown on the fully healthy,
Speaker 1: fully functional Celtics in place of Tatum, I think either
Speaker 1: one of the I think they with Steph or with
Speaker 1: Braun they could win the championship, and they would be
Speaker 1: the best gun. You see what I'm saying, Like, you're
Speaker 1: right that the easiest way would be to just like
Speaker 1: add Yannis or in the Lakers case, they did add Luca,
Speaker 1: but Luca didn't play like Lucas supposed to in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and the Lakers roster was screwed up. But you like,
Speaker 1: that's the point I'm making. I do think those Stephen Broun,
Speaker 1: you didn't used to have perfect ross around him, and
Speaker 1: he just knew they were you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Going to two months of high intensity playoff basketball, no problem.
Speaker 1: See you at the finish line. It's just a different
Speaker 1: spot now. And that's that's the reality of it.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more NBA before we do
Speaker 1: schedule stuff.
Speaker 2: Yes, after choking in that fourth quarter the Nuggets, he
Speaker 2: went seven minutes without a without a basket.
Speaker 3: They're now down three to two. Playoffs are wide open.
Speaker 2: And okay, see can capitalize tonight. Do you think they'll
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 1: No, listen, I think that. I think I think Denver
Speaker 1: is gonna win tonight. And then we have a Game
Speaker 1: seven and I'm super excited to see I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see what Joker has in store for us over
Speaker 1: these next couple games. And I this is, this is.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's unfair, but it is.
Speaker 1: It's a high standard. Let me put it like that.
Speaker 1: Which is and Daniel, this is another massive compliment. I'm
Speaker 1: about to play pay to Nikola Jokic, but I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to. I will for the second time when
Speaker 1: talking about Joker, Evoe, evoke, invoke Lebron James and what Lebron.
Speaker 1: Lebron's last year in Cleveland, So that means it's twenty eight.
Speaker 1: He's thirty at the time, he's thirty three years old,
Speaker 1: so a little bit older than Joker, but you know,
Speaker 1: peak Lebron. They are playing the Celtics in the conference finals.
Speaker 1: And that Calves team, When I say that Calves team
Speaker 1: would make this Nuggets supporting cast look like all stars.
Speaker 1: That Calves team was starting Kevin Love more on him
Speaker 1: in a second, very good player, Jr. Tristan and George Hill.
Speaker 1: They were playing a Pacers team that you know young,
Speaker 1: but the Pacers were Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, Al Horford,
Speaker 1: who the youth for Al is a good thing because
Speaker 1: you know he was peak out or close to peak
Speaker 1: Al Horford, Terry Rogier, Marcus Smart Uh and then you
Speaker 1: know they didn't get Marcus Morris, Aaron Bains. The Calves
Speaker 1: found themselves down three to two in that series. In
Speaker 1: Game six of that series, Kevin Love got hurt five
Speaker 1: minutes in and Lebron goes forty six eleven nine, three
Speaker 1: and one, playing forty six minutes as the Cavs win
Speaker 1: by seven. And then in Game seven of that series,
Speaker 1: with Kevin Love out with a concussion, Lebron goes thirty
Speaker 1: five fifteen nine and two and they win. He scored
Speaker 1: thirty five, the team scored eighty seven and they win.
Speaker 1: Now they ended up then getting The very next game
Speaker 1: Lebron played was probably the best game any basketball players
Speaker 1: ever ever played in the history of the league, the
Speaker 1: fifty one to eight to eight Game one of the Finals,
Speaker 1: the j R.
Speaker 3: Smith Game.
Speaker 1: I tell that story for these for this reason, I
Speaker 1: think and This is why it's about Joker, and this
Speaker 1: is why it's a compliment. I think it's on the
Speaker 1: board Joker does something similar. I think it's on the
Speaker 1: board that jokers next two games are just I'm just
Speaker 1: fucking better than everybody and role players, you'll play better
Speaker 1: in game six and then I will will us to
Speaker 1: the finish line in game seven. Now, it doesn't guarantee
Speaker 1: you a championship. The Calves then got clocked by the
Speaker 1: Katie Steph Warriors in the finals. But I am I'm
Speaker 1: open to that being a possibility, and that is the
Speaker 1: highest of compliments that I can pay. Nikoi Jokic. All right, demonte,
Speaker 1: let's go to the schedule release.
Speaker 2: If we could NFL released a twenty twenty five schedule
Speaker 2: last night. I'm starting off with your chiefs. We have
Speaker 2: a league high seven primetime games.
Speaker 3: What sticks out to you with the schedule?
Speaker 1: So there's so many schedule related things, and I was
Speaker 1: I told the producers I was going to do a
Speaker 1: lot on the schedule, but it's almost like there's so
Speaker 1: much on the schedule that it's going to be that
Speaker 1: it's going to be overwhelming to do. I So I
Speaker 1: want to do it like this. I want to go
Speaker 1: through the nationally televised games and then I will dive
Speaker 1: deep into individual teams who I feel like have either
Speaker 1: got lucky or unlucky, and maybe we'll do more of
Speaker 1: it next week, because I do want to do more
Speaker 1: NFL stuff, So our Sunday Night football slate, we can
Speaker 1: just go through it. You guys don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about this chief schedule right now. And if it helps
Speaker 1: you guys, I should have given you guys a heads
Speaker 1: up on this. If you go to the Twitter account
Speaker 1: my sports update, which is Ari Meirov. He has the
Speaker 1: image of the three like the night schedules, because that's
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at and people can watch along. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if we have the capability to pull
Speaker 1: this up. I still don't really know how production works.
Speaker 1: But the first Sunday night football game of the year
Speaker 1: to monse is Ravens at Bills, and I'm here to
Speaker 1: tell everyone that I think for the second straight year
Speaker 1: to monse.
Speaker 3: Real dirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah you agree.
Speaker 2: I see it as an opportunity again, same way I
Speaker 2: saw it last year.
Speaker 1: But it is it is an opportunity that the.
Speaker 2: Bill like it could have been another good team against
Speaker 2: the Ravens other than the Bills.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure the audience knows what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. For the second straight year, the NFL is
Speaker 1: sending the Baltimore Ravens to the location of their gutting
Speaker 1: postseason defeat, obviously against the team that beat them, and
Speaker 1: because it's not a divisional matchup, no chance for a
Speaker 1: get back. So last year two years ago the Chiefs
Speaker 1: host or no, I guess it's not to the location
Speaker 1: two years ago because the Ravens hosted that game. But
Speaker 1: two years ago the Ravens beat the chief The Chiefs
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens in the AFC Championship game, and then
Speaker 1: Week ones against the Chiefs, the Chiefs beat them. And
Speaker 1: I don't care. What the Ravens said in the back
Speaker 1: of their head all year had to be can we
Speaker 1: beat this team? They've beaten us twice and now the
Speaker 1: Bills beat them to end the year, and Week one
Speaker 1: they play the Bills. Now it is a great opportunity.
Speaker 1: That is a kick ass game, like a really a
Speaker 1: kick ass game. But I don't, I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: get it to like be totally honest with you, all right,
Speaker 1: Week two Sunday Night football is uh. It's almost as
Speaker 1: if the schedule makers, Oh, good job producers, they got
Speaker 1: the graphic, forgot that Kirk Cousins lost the starting job
Speaker 1: because the only reason I care about Falcons at Vikings
Speaker 1: is if Kirk Cousins is starting for the Falcons. Otherwise, like,
Speaker 1: I guess Pennick's McCarthy, But I'm not that into it.
Speaker 1: Week three Chiefs at Giants, I gotta tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: into it, and I might go to that game Sunday
Speaker 1: night met Life see the Chiefs. Maybe the world is not.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the world is super into that game.
Speaker 1: Week four, this again, there's the Sunday Night slate. Week
Speaker 1: four Packers at Cowboys. Good early season kind of measuring
Speaker 1: stick game for both teams. In this regard, I think
Speaker 1: both of these teams kind of best case scenario is
Speaker 1: they are fighting for one of those wild card spots.
Speaker 1: So this could have real postseason implications if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are better than people think, and if the Packers are
Speaker 1: about what people think. Week five Patriots Bills. I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna stink Vegas thinks the Patriots are
Speaker 1: gonna be fighting for a playoff spot, so that becomes
Speaker 1: a huge game. Uh. Week six Lions at Chiefs one
Speaker 1: of the games of the year, like just objectively one
Speaker 1: of the games of the year. And here is a
Speaker 1: years of little known fact. Jared Goff, I do believe,
Speaker 1: is the only quarterback in the league that Mahomes has
Speaker 1: played more than once and never beaten. So he lost
Speaker 1: to him in the fifty four fifty one Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football epic Chiefs Rams seven years ago, and lost to
Speaker 1: him the season opener two years ago. Lions Chiefs. Week seven,
Speaker 1: Falcons Niners Again. I feel like we're being a little
Speaker 1: overserved the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday Night Football. I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Week eight one of the most
Speaker 1: exciting games of the year. Theoretically Aaron Rodgers taking on
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, assuming Aaron Rodgers signs up to play.
Speaker 1: So I'm into that one. Are you into that one?
Speaker 1: I'm in. I wish it were in Lambeau, but I'm
Speaker 1: into that one.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see Jordan Love put it on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'd be great. Week nine Seahawks Commanders.
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks might be really bad. Commanders should
Speaker 1: be fun, but I think the Seahawks might be really bad.
Speaker 1: We'll see about Sam Darnold week ten. Week ten, if
Speaker 1: these seasons go the way I think they're gonna go,
Speaker 1: might be a Sunday Night Football is a second screen.
Speaker 1: I don't know what HBO has on at that point
Speaker 1: of the year, But Steelers Chargers. I'm not as himing
Speaker 1: the Chargers as everyone else is, and I think the
Speaker 1: Steelers it's not gonna work. We're getting wow two out
Speaker 1: of three weeks. We're getting Aaron Rodgers theoretically in the
Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday Night Football. Week eleven. Awesome game Lions Eagles,
Speaker 1: massive implications for tie breakers and playoff seating everything. Week twelve.
Speaker 1: I think that's an awesome game too. Bucks Rams, two
Speaker 1: of my favorite quarterbacks. Who my favorite teams to watch?
Speaker 1: Week thirteen, bo Knicks against Jaden Yeah. Yeah, see about
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Week fourteen, Texans Chiefs awesome. Texans tried to
Speaker 1: get some get back for the playoff game last year.
Speaker 1: Week fifteen, Vikings, Cowboys Okay. Week sixteen, Bengals Dolphins Week seventeen,
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. Bears Niners, I will say
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. I feel like this is probably good
Speaker 1: for my employer Fox. I think I think America's Game
Speaker 1: of the week, the Giant Fox for thirty game on Sundays,
Speaker 1: stole some of the best matchups from Sunday Night Football
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. We can go through much quicker if
Speaker 1: I'm ESPN, I am irritated is the wrong word. But
Speaker 1: there's only a few jump off the page on you.
Speaker 1: Week one Vikings Bears. Listen. I'm excited to see Caleb.
Speaker 1: I am not as into the Vikings as maybe the
Speaker 1: schedule makers are. Week two doubleheader pretty good. Actually, Bucks Texans,
Speaker 1: I like it. Chargers Raiders. I'm high on the Raiders.
Speaker 1: And Week three is unbelievable. Lions Ravens. That's another game
Speaker 1: of the year. Then it gets a little lean. Jets
Speaker 1: dolphinsh Bengals Broncos and Chiefs Jags. I love that matchup.
Speaker 1: I don't know if America does. But Travis Hunter, even
Speaker 1: if you don't care about the Prince Travis Hunt. Week thirteen,
Speaker 1: Bill's Falcons Bears, Oh Bears, Commanders. That's an awesome game,
Speaker 1: Jaden and Caleb. That's awesome. Maybe this is a better
Speaker 1: schedule than I thought. Actually, now that I'm actually diving
Speaker 1: into it. Uh Bucks line, this is again Monday night football,
Speaker 1: Bucks Lion's great with a doubleheader of Texan Seahawks. And
Speaker 1: then the very next week, Jaden takes on Mahomes for
Speaker 1: the first time ever. That's sick Cardinals Cowboys. The storyline
Speaker 1: there'll be or just make this prop bet now, there
Speaker 1: is going to be a highlight package of Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: as a high schooler winning state championships in Cowboys Stadium
Speaker 1: that we're gonna get that. We're like, this guy's unbelievable
Speaker 1: in this stadium. Week ten potentially really good one Eagles Packers,
Speaker 1: Week eleven Cowboys Raiders again. I think the Raiders are
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Week twelve Niners are Niners hosting the Panthers.
Speaker 1: November twenty fourth. That's a date night, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: right now. That's a Monday night date night. The next
Speaker 1: week Giants Patriots, we might have back to back date nights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: back to back Monday night date nights. Put it on
Speaker 1: your calendar, honey. Week fourteen Eagles Chargers good, and then
Speaker 1: Week fifteen Dolphins, Steelers, and then Niners, Colts and then
Speaker 1: Rams Falcons. So Monday Night Football kind of ends with
Speaker 1: a bit of a whimper, but it has really I
Speaker 1: think the first half the schedule better than I thought.
Speaker 1: And now we go to Thursday Night, Thursday Night. Week one, Packers, Commanders,
Speaker 1: love it. Week two, Dolphins, Bills. Oh, so this is
Speaker 1: what we're when we do this more schedule stuff next week.
Speaker 1: This is the things that are because we are obviously
Speaker 1: already know who's playing who, so it's more about when
Speaker 1: they're playing for the schedule release, not more about exclusively.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins getting their game in Buffalo in September is
Speaker 1: a huge win for them. Them not having to go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo in November December is very helpful for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Then we get Seahawks, Cardinals, whatever, Niners, Rams, potentially really
Speaker 1: good Eagles, Giants as Steelers, Bengals always good, Vikings, Chargers again,
Speaker 1: a lot of Vikings. Maybe JJ McCarthy's gonna be awesome,
Speaker 1: but I can't figure that one. Ravens Dolphins, see if
Speaker 1: two is healthy, but that could be good. Bears, bronor
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Raiders, Broncos, Jets, Patriots, No thank you November thirteen,
Speaker 1: No thank you. Bill's Texans awesome game, and then the
Speaker 1: Black Friday Game Bears Eagles awesome, then Cowboys Lions, really good, Falcons,
Speaker 1: Bucks Fine, Rams, Seahawks, and then the Christmas Day game
Speaker 1: Broncos cheeks. So so that's your exclusive Sunday, Monday, and
Speaker 1: Thursday night schedule. I'm just glad it's here, and I
Speaker 1: really I'm gonna lean on Warren Sharp to do a
Speaker 1: lot of the tough work for Rest Edge and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and I'll dive into more fully like did
Speaker 1: you you know did you fade? Are you a warm
Speaker 1: weather team that got your cold weather opponent in September
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins did with their annual game to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Because that's important. If you ask me sneak no, and.
Speaker 2: I know the schedule's coming out, I think you can
Speaker 2: get the Jags to win the division at nearly three
Speaker 2: to one right now.
Speaker 3: I just want to put that out there.
Speaker 1: I like it. Travis Hunter, Liam Cohen, fading, Your fading,
Speaker 1: your guy.
Speaker 5: C J.
Speaker 1: Stroud. All right, let's get some of the listener questions
Speaker 1: that we had uh from Tuesday, and then we'll get
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Speaker 2: Trent asks Nick, is there a trade package that the
Speaker 2: Bucks would actually entertain it would also work in the
Speaker 2: second apron to get you honest to Boston.
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, the answer to that question is no, there isn't.
Speaker 1: The Celtics are trying to trim salary. The I don't
Speaker 1: think the like if you called them up and you
Speaker 1: offered them, the answer is no, They're They're going to.
Speaker 3: Boston, Porzingis and Brown see you later.
Speaker 1: No. Well, that's the thing is because salary. No, because
Speaker 1: of Boston salary stuff, they can't combine. They can't combine guys,
Speaker 1: So would have to be basically Jaalen Brown for Giannis
Speaker 1: straight up. And I just even if you had picks,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be enough for Milwaukee.
Speaker 2: Al right, Next, Grayson Justin for Tibbs, Justice just justin?
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually justice for Tibbs.
Speaker 2: He played his starters big minutes all year and was criticized.
Speaker 2: But now in the fourth quarter, they're clearly better conditioned
Speaker 2: than their opponents because they're used to it.
Speaker 1: Hey, right now, it's looking good. That part's true. Now
Speaker 1: Demons's banking on this being wrong and that they're just
Speaker 1: gonna fall apart at the end of this series, but
Speaker 1: right now it's true. All right.
Speaker 2: Next, Joel says, loves first things first, what's the process
Speaker 2: for selecting topics on the show? And as well, it's
Speaker 2: really the leader of the show, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So for selecting topics, like we have a group
Speaker 1: Google doc our producers put in what they think the
Speaker 1: topic should be. Then we have a call where we
Speaker 1: make sure we all agree. I mean, it's usually pretty straightforward,
Speaker 1: you know, But so that is, selecting topics is easy.
Speaker 1: Finding the right question to ask about the topic takes
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, but not much. And while
Speaker 1: Wiles is really the leader of the show, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course Wiles is the leader of the show. There's
Speaker 1: no question about it. And it's just like, what's the
Speaker 1: right example of this. Have you ever been playing a
Speaker 1: video game and there's like a toddler around and they
Speaker 1: want to play too, so you give them a controller
Speaker 1: that's not plugged in and they sit next to you.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2: Below the belt, Afex says, I love that you guys
Speaker 2: have a father son show. Oh thanks, Apex, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: like that like the show too. Go ahead, Noah asks
Speaker 2: if Giannis goes west and the East gets even worse,
Speaker 2: would you support a one it's one through sixteen playoff
Speaker 2: seating ignoring conference.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't know what you would do.
Speaker 1: I like the traditional conference setup. Here is a sneaky thing.
Speaker 1: I was actually so Nick who owns his family demonte
Speaker 1: knows this one telling the audience. Next to my wife's
Speaker 1: boutique is an ice cream shop called sugar Hill Creamery,
Speaker 1: which is just the best ice cream in New York City.
Speaker 1: And it's a husband wife business. And uh, it's also
Speaker 1: a very the coincidence of this very unique, like they
Speaker 1: it's a husband wife business. The husband's name is Nick.
Speaker 1: He's a white guy from the Midwest. The wife is
Speaker 1: a black woman who is has a lot of the
Speaker 1: same kind of what I would call almost like charisma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she reminds me a lot of your mom. And she's
Speaker 1: like a very similar kind of ethos also both maybe
Speaker 1: a little like supernatural powers. Like it's very you know,
Speaker 1: it's a very they they have. They have an eleven
Speaker 1: year old daughter, like like they just a lot of
Speaker 1: odd coincidences there.
Speaker 3: It's rigged like two blocks.
Speaker 1: Of them, right, Well, we one block apart. Yeah, but regardless.
Speaker 1: So Nick is a huge Timberwolves fan, and they were
Speaker 1: actually over at the house last night to watch the game,
Speaker 1: and one of the things he and I were talking
Speaker 1: about is if the NBA ads, which they will demanse
Speaker 1: a Seattle and a Vegas team, both of those teams
Speaker 1: will have to be in the Western Conference, which means
Speaker 1: one team currently in the West will be moved to
Speaker 1: the East, and that the teams that make the most sense.
Speaker 3: Houston right there.
Speaker 1: No, So, I mean, I'm sure they would love it,
Speaker 1: but the furthest East teams that are in the West
Speaker 1: are New Orleans, Memphis and Minnesota. Minnesota makes the most
Speaker 1: sense because they're close. Minnesota is so close to Milwaukee, Chicago,
Speaker 1: and and those teams are in the East. But that
Speaker 1: is going to be if you own New Orleans, Memphis
Speaker 1: or Minnesota, you desperately want to be moved to the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. And if you're the NBA, I know this
Speaker 1: is a long term decision, but in the short term
Speaker 1: you kinda want moving New Orleans to the East is
Speaker 1: not helping anybody. You want it to be an awesome team,
Speaker 1: so like it should, you would think it would help
Speaker 1: everyone for its being Minnesota. All right, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Next, Isaiah says, would you guys ever open? Would you
Speaker 2: guys ever be open to calls from fans with questions?
Speaker 2: Huge fan of the first things first and nick style
Speaker 2: of debating the Lebron of debate shows.
Speaker 1: Well, that's very nice. Uh. I don't know the tech
Speaker 1: on having callers. I know some shows do. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'd be opened to almost anything.
Speaker 2: We could see some stuff happening there.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, no, I mean we could try it at
Speaker 1: some point. I don't know. All right, And do the
Speaker 1: last one, Demonsey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know Lebron had mentioned that the draft
Speaker 2: was rigged and you haven't said anything about that. And
Speaker 2: also but on, Weelitz says that because I was thinking
Speaker 2: of that in my head.
Speaker 3: But Weelitt was the guy I asked it.
Speaker 1: So I so here's the deal. When I did the
Speaker 1: rant on the TV show, we led with Lebron's tweet
Speaker 1: and the laughing emojis. I and so I I'm not
Speaker 1: like ignoring it. Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 3: So we led the show.
Speaker 1: If you called Lebron a bonehead basically, I mean indirectly. Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: on this topic, yeah, I think this is I think
Speaker 1: it's beneath him and I it's I think that I
Speaker 1: think that if he actually spent time looking at it,
Speaker 1: he'd come to the conclusion of, oh, it's not but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like I'm I don't like that he has
Speaker 1: fanned of flames on that. I don't I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just is what it is, all right. Reminder everybody like
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Speaker 1: will be on my not Tuesday. Just so everybody knows.
Speaker 1: Next week, the whole schedule is gonna be weird, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure exactly what it is. What I
Speaker 1: do know is we are doing a show Monday, not Tuesday.
Speaker 1: And maybe we'll do maybe we'll do a bonus show
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I'm not sure. All right, Like rate
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